Another 60 Minutes Editing Controversy, NYC Terror Attack, and Obama and Kamala Politicize Funeral, with Stu Burguiere | Ep. 1268

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Megyn Kelly Show – Ep. 1268

Episode Title: Another 60 Minutes Editing Controversy, NYC Terror Attack, and Obama and Kamala Politicize Funeral, with Stu Burguiere
Date: March 9, 2026
Host: Megyn Kelly (with guest Stu Burguiere)
Episode Theme:
A no-holds-barred discussion of the media’s manipulations, escalating tensions surrounding the Iran war and its domestic ramifications, political opportunism at Jesse Jackson’s funeral, and the muddled state of American journalism and political leadership.

Main Topics Covered

1. 60 Minutes Deception: Media Manipulation & Pro-Israel Framing
2. New York City Terror Attack & Political Reframing
3. Domestic Fallout of the Iran War: Security, Policy, and Leadership
4. Political Weaponization of Jesse Jackson’s Funeral
5. Media, Politicians, and the Death of Honest Discourse
6. Bill Maher’s Catch: Political Hypocrisy Exposed
7. Obama’s Presidential Library and Progressive Pettiness

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1. 60 Minutes Editing Controversy & Network Agenda

Main Segment: [03:31–18:18]

Overview:
Megyn Kelly unpacks the latest scandal involving CBS’s 60 Minutes, which deceptively edited an interview with US Secretary of War Pete Hegseth to reframe criticism against President Trump as a debate about Israeli influence dragging the US into war, rather than about Trump’s America First principles.

Key Points:

• CBS inserted Israel and Netanyahu into a Major Garrett interview with Pete Hegseth, even though neither was mentioned in the actual Q&A.
• The network used voiceover to change the context of the question, painting Hegseth as defending Netanyahu, not Trump’s America First critics.
• Kelly criticizes Bari Weiss’s influence at CBS, alleging she’s pushing a pro-Israel perspective at the expense of honest journalism.

Notable Quotes:

• “What kind of fucking bullshit is this? …You cannot take a question that wasn’t about Bibi Netanyahu and insert an answer that was responsive to America first principles. It’s fucking unethical.” – Megyn Kelly [06:38]
• “Major Garrett, who is a good reporter, took criticisms like mine… and asked the question you mentioned America First—some who identify with that movement …have said from their perspective, this isn’t an America first campaign. Do you want to address that criticism? Fair question. Totally fair question.” – Megyn Kelly [09:44]
• “They took Major’s question out and relayed in anchor track to make it about Netanyahu and Israel, so that Pete’s answer would be rehabilitative of that.” – Megyn Kelly [07:27]
• “Welcome to the new CBS. Same as the old CBS. Deceptive editing, deceptive manipulations meant to push their own agenda.” – Megyn Kelly [11:22]

Analysis: Both Megyn and Stu agree this is a clear ethical violation and point out that, while CBS now releases unedited interviews due to previous Trump complaints, this type of manipulation is deeply damaging to trust in news media.

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2. New York City Terror Attack & Political Spin

Main Segment: [30:00–72:43]

Overview:
A terror attack outside NYC Mayor Mamdani’s Gracie Mansion is recast by the mayor as an issue of white supremacy, despite being an ISIS-inspired bombing targeting police and rival protestors.

Key Points:

• Attackers shouted “Allahu Akbar” and threw IEDs at police and protestors during a small anti-Islam public prayer demonstration.
• NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch confirmed these were genuine explosive devices (TATP, “Mother of Satan”), capable of mass harm. [60:10]
• NYC Mayor Mamdani’s primary focus in public statements was on alleged “white supremacists” protesting, avoiding mention of radical Islamic terrorism or police as main targets.
• Media outlets (NYT, NBC) downplayed the terror aspect, using vague descriptions ("smoking jars of metal and fuses") and burying the ISIS connection.

Notable Quotes:

• “Where is the part about ISIS inspired terrorists shouting Allahu Akbar, throwing an IED at cops? …he can’t bring himself to say it, Stu. And to deny what that was actually about is to endanger everyone in New York City.” – Megyn Kelly [65:00]
• “One thing you can do is tell the story. This is supposed to be a very basic part of journalism.” – Stu Burguiere [69:46]

Memorable Exchange:

• “He’s not mentioning Allahu Akbar because those are his favorite words.” – Megyn Kelly [66:44]
• “Are people getting hit in the head with iPads? Thank you so much for your specificity...” – Stu Burguiere [65:21]

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3. Iran War: Necessity, Consequence, and Media Dissonance

Main Segment: [18:18–46:21]

Overview:
A wide-ranging discussion on the new American war with Iran, its justifications, mounting domestic terror threats as blowback, and the inability of either the Trump administration or most media outlets to have an honest debate.

Key Points:

• The debate between “justified” and “necessary”—Kelly and Stu see justification for action against Iran, but question the necessity and lack of debate or public consensus.
• Kelly expresses skepticism due to her experience during the Iraq War and worries about repeating mistakes.
• Stu points out political and media whiplash: outlets that used to advocate for intervention now criticize it just because Trump is in charge.
• The rising risk of sleeper cells and domestic attacks as fallout from the Iran war is noted in the context of new terror warnings. [22:45]

Notable Quotes:

• “You don’t want quagmire and you don’t want to jeopardize American service personnel’s lives… I just feel like [Lindsey Graham] has no fucking compassion for human life. All he wants to do is see bombs go off.” – Megyn Kelly [49:56]
• "Is it necessary, or just an opportunity?” – Stu Burguiere [21:18]
• “If we just continue assassinating leader after leader in Iran, to pretend that’s not going to have any consequences is folly.” – Megyn Kelly [37:56]

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4. Lindsey Graham and the ‘World Policeman’ Mentality

Main Segment: [33:12–49:56]

Overview:
Lindsey Graham’s role as a hawkish influence on Trump, his public statements about “marching through the world, cleaning out the bad guys,” and how this vision is at odds with Trump’s campaign promises.

Key Points:

• Graham openly admits lobbying foreign leaders and Trump to push for the Iran war.
• Hostility towards Graham is bipartisan among Kelly’s listeners: he’s described as out of touch, warmongering, and dangerous.
• Discussion on the need for full disclosure when Fox News contributors double as administration advisors.

Notable Quotes:

• “Lindsey Graham sucks in every way imaginable. I’m not a fan of him… He seems to be a one issue guy which is continually pushing for this sort of international involvement in every way possible.” – Stu Burguiere [34:58]
• “No. No one elected you to do that. And no one elected President Trump to do that either.” – Megyn Kelly [34:07]

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5. Political Appropriation of Jesse Jackson's Funeral

Main Segment: [88:44–99:32]

Overview:
In the aftermath of Jesse Jackson’s death, vice president Kamala Harris, President Biden, and Barack Obama all use the funeral to make partisan attacks, despite explicit requests from the Jackson family to avoid politics.

Key Points:

• Kamala Harris launches into political rhetoric almost immediately, recycling her frequently mocked catchphrases. [90:53]
• Obama and Biden both frame contemporary politics and the election as an existential threat, using the event to attack opponents.
• Jesse Jackson Jr. openly rebukes the politicians for missing the point of his father’s life and legacy.

Notable Quotes:

• “Can we at least agree that when you’re at a funeral, it’s not about you, it’s about the person who died and that should be clear?” – Stu Burguiere [95:42]
• “[Kamala Harris] is burdened by thoughts and used to getting ahead on the fact that she is black and she is a woman. And the Democrat party, that is typically enough, it was enough to make her the nominee.” – Megyn Kelly [91:54]
• “Yesterday, I listened for several hours of three United States presidents who do not know Jesse Jackson… demanded a consistent prophetic voice that at no point in time ever sold us out as a people.” – Jesse Jackson Jr. [96:46]

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6. Bill Maher Clips: Hypocrisy in National Security Debate

Main Segment: [79:27–86:10]

Overview:
A Bill Maher segment exposes Adam Schiff’s inconsistency—criticizing Trump’s war authority using language almost identical to Obama’s. Discussion of media and political hypocrisy and the lack of real principle in political argument.

Key Points:

• Bill Maher highlights the double standard: Democrats’ willingness to justify war powers under Obama but not Trump.
• Stu praises figures like Rand Paul for ideological consistency, contrasting with political opportunists like Adam Schiff.
• Discussion on how most politicians (and media) are driven by anti-Trump sentiment rather than clear principles.

Notable Quotes:

• “It’s your job to bring them the facts.” – Stu Burguiere, on journalism and honesty [71:16]
• “And I got elected because I have these principles, so I’m gonna stand by them. It’s very rare. Much more common is the Adam Shifty Schiff… very shifty. Depending on who’s doing the absolutely terrible thing that he can’t stand for.” – Megyn Kelly [82:04]
• “[Democrats] had none of this stuff back then. …They have made a decision. They do have a principle in the media, which is they don’t like Donald Trump.” – Stu Burguiere [80:54]

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7. Obama’s Presidential Library and Progressive Pettiness

Main Segment: [102:04–104:51]

Overview: Obama’s presidential library opening intentionally doesn’t invite Trump (per Valerie Jarrett), which Megyn decries as petty and emblematic of the supposed “above the fray” Obama era.

Key Points:

• The building itself is mocked for its unattractive design and excessive cost.
• Kelly ridicules the idea that Obama is a “post-partisan” figure in light of the snub and his recent divisive remarks.

Notable Quotes:

• “It’s so petty to the end. Even well out of office, opening his presidential library, the goal is always to have former presidents or current presidents… His thing is the ugliest building anybody’s ever seen.” – Megyn Kelly [102:35]
• "[Obama] is partisan, too. His core… it’s so galling to hear him described by his supporters to this day like he was sort of a post-partisan president.” – Megyn Kelly [103:26]

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• 60 Minutes Editing Breakdown: [03:31–18:18]
• Iran War Justification, Necessity: [18:18–29:39]
• Lindsey Graham Warmongering: [33:12–49:56]
• NYC Terror Attack & Political Reframing: [60:10–74:10]
• Bill Maher Exposes Political Hypocrisy: [79:27–86:10]
• Jesse Jackson Funeral Gets Political: [88:44–99:32]
• Obama Library Segment: [102:04–104:51]

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Takeaway Quotes & Moments

• “You cannot take a question that wasn’t asked about Bibi Netanyahu and insert an answer that was responsive to America first principles. It’s fucking unethical.” – Megyn Kelly [06:38]
• “Lindsey Graham sucks in every way imaginable. I’m not a fan of him.” – Stu Burguiere [34:58]
• “Are people getting hit in the head with iPads? Thank you so much for your specificity…” – Stu Burguiere [65:21]
• “Can we at least agree that when you’re at a funeral, it’s not about you, it’s about the person who died and that should be clear?” – Stu Burguiere [95:42]
• “[Obama] is partisan, too. His core…” – Megyn Kelly [103:26]

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Conclusion

This episode offers a raw, unapologetic critique of the American media’s convoluted narratives, hawkish influences inside the Trump administration, and the shameful politicization of a celebrated civil rights leader’s memorial. With sharp analysis, colorful language, and vivid on-the-ground political commentary, Megyn and Stu lay bare the chronic trust deficit afflicting U.S. institutions—from Congress to newsrooms—leaving listeners questioning both the ethics of political leaders and the honesty of the people supposed to hold them to account.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Some normally enthusiastic supporters of the president have criticized him, suggesting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pulled the US Into a war that, to their minds, did not put American interests first. Do you want to address that criticism? All I know is I'm in the room every day and I see how President Trump operates and what he's putting first. And it's America, Americans and American interests.

[A]

Okay, so there you see Pete Hegseth defending Bibi Netanyahu charges about Israel's interference in the war. Well, thanks to President Trump's complaint about 60 Minutes edits of Kamala Harris's interview and how deceptive they were, CBS now posts the unedited interviews of news makers as well. And let me tell you, the question asked was very different. That was not the question that Major Garrett asked. He did not ask anything about Bibi Netanyahu or Israel, nor did then Pete go on to rehabilitate anything in response to Israel. All right. We took a look at the Hegseth interview in full. It's notable how the Q and A you saw never mentioned Israel at all. Only someone at CBS tried to go back and change the question to make it about Israel such that the answer would then rehabilitate Israel, which isn't what actually happened. Look at this. This is the actual Q and A as it unfolded.

[B]

You mentioned America First. Some who identify with that movement, Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Marjorie Taylor Greene, have said from their perspective, this isn't an America first campaign. Do you want to address that criticism? All I know is I'm in the room every day and I see how President Trump operates and what he's putting first. And it's America, Americans and American interests at every level. How long should our bases be tolerating Thousands of short range ballistic missiles and 100 attack drones pointing at our bases and our people. After 47 years of Americans being targeted and killed. The men I served with in combat in Iraq, coming home with no arms and no legs, targeted by Iranian EFPs. Thousands of Americans killed.

[A]

Beirut.

[B]

You want to go back? We can go back to how long. I mean, the regime itself is premised on death to America. So 47 years, thousands of missiles and an unrelenting pursuit of nuclear ambitions. I mean, President Trump's right when he says we obliterated their nuclear program.

[A]

He's right.

[B]

We did. We dropped those bombs exactly where they needed to be, set them back and we're.

[A]

But that doesn't mean they've stopped their pursuit.

[B]

Doesn't mean in the back of their mind they're thinking, well, maybe we'll wait it out and keep. They've miscalculated the resolve of President Trump. Ask Nicolas Maduro about that. Ask, you know, the Houthis about that. Look at the southern border. Look at the cartels and drug boats. When President Trump says he'll take care

[A]

of something, he's going to take care of it. There was nothing, nothing about Netanyahu and nothing about Israel in the Q or the A. Only CBS decided to style it in that fashion. But you know what? Here's the thing. They do not give a shit about misleading you over at cbs. The old CBS or the new cbs, which has a brand new agenda. The left will tell you that it's pro maga. It's not pro maga, trust me. Watch two minutes of the evening news or the morning news. It is not pro maga at all, but it is pro Israel. Bari Weiss has finally achieved her dream of running a news network that will be entirely pro Israel. This is not just me saying this. Everybody all over the Internet has been watching. CBS has noted how unfair their coverage is on this. It is not fair and balanced at all. They, they. So not only did CBS reframe the whole thing unfairly to be about Bibi Netanyahu, which was not a major's question and was not in Pete's answer. He was not answering a question about Israel, but they also then jumped two and a half minutes in the interview after Hegseth's answer to then a question about Netanyahu providing intel to the US in the war, but that moment, an example of inserting Israel into a Q and A that never mentioned it in the first place. Okay, so here again, they are trying to shove Israel into the debate and Israel's in the debate. But you can't make a question that wasn't about it about it later with an anchor track. That's what they did. They took Major's question out and they relayed in anchor track to make it about Netanyahu in Israel. So that Pete's answer would be rehabilitative of that. What? What kind of fucking bullshit is this? Honestly, like, forget, obviously, we've got a lot of questions about this war. As I made clear last week. We're still supporters of President Trump entirely. Doesn't mean you have to agree with every decision the man makes. And we support our troops and we support success in this mission now that it has been started. But we have a lot of questions about this war. Some are about Israel's role, obviously. Some are about gas prices, as we mentioned a minute ago. Many are about whether this is good for the American people, whether, as we mentioned on this show, and we voiced our objections last Monday, we're now subjecting the homeland to more potential terrorism attacks. Remember, that was one of the main things I said that I was very worried, having been at fox News for 20 years in the war on terror, that we were now gonna start to see more domestic terror attacks, which we had tamped down, which we'd been doing rather well on. That was one of my main things. MTG was on the show. Here is what she said her concerns were. Okay, among other things, she mentioned Israel. So did I. But here is her list of what she was concerned about in Sat ii. Most Americans are completely against this war because like you said, the president has made no case for it. We live our ordinary lives and we don't feel threatened by Iran. We don't walk around thinking that in any moment an Iranian ballistic missile is going to land on our head. We don't. Here's what Americans and I want to read off this list. Americans are focused on. 72% of Americans can't afford health insurance. 58% of Americans can't afford car insurance. 67% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. 31% of Americans can't afford their back taxes. 50% of Americans are in credit card debt, massive credit card debt. That's where we are in America. Okay? So Major Garrett, who is a good reporter, took criticisms like mine, like hers and others, and asked the question you mentioned America First. Some who identify with that movement, Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, Kenneth Owens, Marjorie Taylor Greene, have said from their perspective, this isn't an American first campaign. America first campaign. Do you want to address that criticism. Fair question. Totally fair question. Major does his homework. Trust me. I know him very well. We officed together for two years and have been through a lot together. And they changed that question with a voiceover to There are varying versions of how and why the war started when it did. Some normally enthusiastic supporters of the president have criticized him, suggesting Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu pulled the US Into a war that to their minds did not put American interests first. That is a different question. I also believe that, as do I think the other people on your list. But that is a very different question than why do we think this war is not America First? And CBS manipulated the Q and A in order to rehabilitate Netanyahu in a way that Secretary of War Pete Hexseth was not doing in that answer. Do you understand this is ridiculous. It's welcome to the new cbs. Same as the old cbs. Deceptive editing, deceptive manipulations meant to push their own agenda. There's a lot to go over today. This New York City terror attack being reframed as white supremacy is yet another what happened. Now Jesse Jackson's son is lashing out at the top Democrats, President Obama, President Bill Clinton, President Biden for using his dad's memorial to try to rip on Trump. Jesse Jackson's son is pissed. Who could blame him? If you guys remember on AM update after the Reverend Jackson died, I made a personal comment on there about how he was always very good to yours truly. We saw him plenty of times over the Fox News room, you know, tenure. And he was always so cordial, so kind. He knew he was at Fox. He knew I was with fox. Never anything but kind, supportive, inquiring about me, my family, my wellness, all that. And I believe the sun when he says they did not want to make his funeral a partisan thing. In any event, we'll get to all of that. Let me bring in our guest, Stu Brigueris. 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[B]

Ah, Dave Landau. He's a comedian. I realized America's a little bit too much for me to do by myself, so we're bringing Dave on to help. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

[A]

Awesome. Okay. Can you believe this 60 Minutes bullshit? You get it, right? I had to work extra hard at it, but you get the sin. Yes, yes.

[B]

I followed along. It's interesting because I think the question asked, obviously one of your criticisms might be that, but it's also they grouped you with people who have, I would say, a very wide array of complaints. Some of them smart, some of them not so smart, and it's funny. That's an interesting way to ask that question, especially when you could have asked it directly. Right? Those are interesting conversations. People have opinions on them. I think a lot of people are very focused on that right now. And for you to be able to. For someone to be able, like Pete, to be able to answer that, I mean, I think the tone of it is true, right? Like, at the end of the day, we have a commander in chief and he makes the decisions. Donald Trump, not exactly shy on his opinions. I don't think he gets bullied around all that much. But to try to hide that in some separate question where, you know, it could have easily been just asked directly. I will say one of the. One of the things we're finding out about this and one of the. I think the efforts that Donald Trump was trying to achieve when he went after CBS the first time is for us to be able to know this. I mean, this is a new development, Megan. Like, you know, up until recently you would have just been guessing, right? You would have saying, what was that question? What would we have known? And we not would have had that information at all. So at least we stepped forward a little bit in that front. We can now look at the full interviews. I Think that's a positive, but. And I don't understand the approach. I mean, just ask the question directly and let people judge for themselves.

[A]

I mean, America first is many things. It's many things. But I mean, MTG is basically saying she's America only. That's how she would phrase her ideology. And the original question by Major got it and understood it and captured that it was a broader thing. I think by sticking to this isn't America first principles. Nothing about Netanyahu that's also on the table. It's a separate question, and it would be a separate answer. That's not how they presented it. They presented the Secretary of War's defense to the question, which, by the way, was so shortened. I realize in 60 minutes and every network news, they shorten an answer. But his longer answer was a very good answer. You may find it persuasive as a justification for the war, or you may not, but it at least was honest about the reasons were there. You know, he mentioned for 47 years they've been bombing us. He mentioned guys who have lost limbs in the Iraq war thanks to Iranian IEDs, like, okay, that's fine. That actually has persuaded millions of Americans and the majority of Republicans that what we're doing over there right now is just and supported and warranted. But that's not what the question was. That's the problem. You cannot take a question that wasn't asked about Bibi Netanyahu and insert an answer that was responsive to America first principles. It's fucking unethical. Major knows that. CBS knows that. Bari Weiss knows that. So what that leads me to conclude is she's pushing an agenda. And we do know she's heavily involved in these 60 minutes review sessions. We learned that when she spiked the report on CCOT and there was a meltdown within 60, this is not cool. And they ought to correct the record because that is not what he responded to. It's infuriating because right now, I don't know about you, Stu, but the media is impossible at the moment. You've got the pro Trump outlets that are like Fox, that are completely running cover on everything around this war, cheerleading it entirely. Then you've got the New York Times and other outlets that hate Trump, that see everything in the least favorable light to the president. And even I, as a critic of the war, I'm not so critical that I would rely on the New York Times, right? Like, I'll look at them. I'll look at everybody, but it's very hard to find information that you really can trust. Right. Because our president definitely tries to manipulate the media like every other president we've had. And the media is trying to manipulate its audiences like full bore right now on all fronts. So it's been a challenge getting information.

[B]

Yeah, the media's in a really difficult position right now. I mean, they've been talking to us for a very long time about how we have to be more involved in something like Ukraine, for example. And now because President Trump wants to be involved with Iran, they kind of have to take the opposite position and say we shouldn't be involved in these conflicts, have some sympathy for them. Megan, this is really hard to figure out on a day to day basis. You know, you have to oppose Trump, but you have to. I mean, this is just what they, what they're in the middle of. And I think, you know, President Trump, like, I think you hit on something there, which is the debate. And I think it's an interesting question here because it's much broader than, you know, how you feel about Israel. Like, you might think Israel is the greatest country on earth and they're totally justified. I think, you know, if I was living in Iraq, in Israel, and I was an Israeli talk show host, I would be pretty convinced that Iran was a real threat to me. And taking out someone like the Ayatollah would I think be pretty justified. We certainly, I think, have an argument as Pete was making there as well. But, you know, the line here, and this is something that I don't think I would have. I don't think it's a place I would have been 20 or 30 years ago because, you know, going through the Iraq situation had me rethinking things a little bit on this front and sort of trying to set out that dynamic of justification versus necessity. Right. Like, I think we have a really good argument that taking on Iran is justified. You know, what Pete's saying was true. Like, they really, outside of our direction,

[A]

there's scores to be settled.

[B]

There are. I mean, there's heavy reporting on the potential of them trying to take out multiple officials here in the United States, including Donald Trump and John Bolton, two people who can't stand each other these days. You go back and you look at, of course, I mean, I did deep research. I want you to know, I went back and watched Argo with Ben Affleck. Megan. Yes, I did. And in that movie that Hollywood wanted you to make sure you understood that Iran was bad. So they were on that side. I don't know. I go back and forth on this, by the way. Freaking great movie. It's a great movie. It is a great movie. It is a great Ben Affleck movie.

[A]

It's incredibly irritating. But that was a great movie.

[B]

It really is. But you remember this is there's a long history, and what's interesting about that history in 1979, I mean, Donald Trump's, I think, 33 years old when this all goes down somewhere in that area, like this is, you know, as he's becoming an adult and building his business empire, we're kind of just starting to become aware of him as a national figure. This is the story, right? This is the story at that time. And Iran has a long history of murdering Americans. This is not just a thing. This is not like, oh, gosh, this is some country. This is a country that, outside of our direct wars that we've been in, has killed more Americans than any other nation, any other nation state. They did this.

[A]

They're always on the other side.

[B]

Yes, exactly. This is a. So, you know, we have real justification, I think, to have a massive problem with this country. The question, though, and I think this is where I got with Iraq. When we were in Iraq initially, they. People forget they were firing at our jets on like a daily basis before that war started. And that is a justification, absolutely, for us to be able to go to war. The question, though, is it a necessity at that time? Can you. Can you find? I think it was an opportunity. The question was, is it a necessity with Iran and an opportunity. I have no love for the Iranian regime. I am happy the Ayatollah is not there anymore. I really hope this turns out really well. But if we go to an expanded situation where this lasts for a long time, questions wind up becoming problems quickly, and it's hard to back out of that stuff. And that is the sort of thing I think a lot of Trump supporters believe we wouldn't get involved in. And perhaps we're not. We're only a week or so into this. Perhaps this is gonna, you know, he's got a more limited effort and mind, but it's hard to know. And I think that's part of your criticism. Some that I would have of the president's approach to this is I would love to know a little bit more. I'd love to have a little bit more explanation wise. I know he can't lay out the entire battle plan, but it is important for the American people to understand if this is an important. If it is a necessity and not just a justified conflict. I'd like to be, you know, a little more information to push us over that line.

[A]

Well, I mean you look back at what happened before the Iraq war and we had months of debate on it, we had tons of debate on that, on whether we should go in Afghanistan too. And the people at least got a fair vetting. It wound up having majority support in the US Congress. The Iraq War. The Iraq war did, which is kind of crazy to think back on, which was very wrong and we should not have done the Iraq War. I mean I think virtually everyone understands that now. WMD was a lie. They did not exist. Whatever, it was an intel failure at a minimum. And so but we did debate it and there were two sides and they're actually the this is bullshit side was there, they were represented, they were overruled, they weren't considered persuasive. But on this we just haven't had the debate at all. And now we've launched something that I don't know where it's going. I mean many people think this is the beginning of World War iii. I'm not there yet, but I see terror warnings coming across the transom just as we went to air. This just hits do. This is via ABC News. Stand by. Okay, the headline is the US has intercepted encrypted communications believed to have originated in Iran that may serve as an operational trigger. That's in quotes for quote, sleeper assets outside of Iran according to a federal government alert sent to law enforcement agencies. It goes on to say the intercepted transmission was encoded and appeared to be destined for quote, clandestine recipients who possess the encryption key. The kind of message intended to impart instructions to covert operatives or sleeper assets without the use of the Internet or cellular networks. It's possible the transmissions could be intended to activate or provide instructions to pre position sleeper assets operating outside of the originating country. Said the alert that we were not going to get that, that, that was not happening nine days ago. That is obviously a response to what we've done with Israel in Iran. And I realize many people think worth it, worth it, worth it. I don't happen to be one of them. I don't want to have to deal with the United States becoming Israel where we have to worry about getting blown up at your random cafe or our kids have to worry about walking to school safely. That wasn't us 10 days ago. And this isn't the only one. You know we saw that shooting down in Austin, Texas by that guy who seemed like a loon, but he was wearing the Allah sweatshirt and the Iranian flag on his person. Now, this weekend, we see this protest outside of Mamdani's mansion, the mayor's mansion in New York, with two people whose parents are naturalized US Citizens throwing an IED at cops because the protesters there were protesting against New York becoming more radically Muslim. And these obviously were people sympathetic toward the other side, which was also represented at the counter protest. In any event, you and I both see what's happening here. There is a powder keg that has been placed. It's been sort of drizzled all over certain pockets of the United States in the wake of our military action in Iran. And I'm just totally against it. I am not in favor of using the military in a way that's not defensive. This didn't feel defensive to me. But the point is, simply now we're gonna have to deal with it. And now we're gonna see more and more of these homegrown domestic terror attacks, and yet we're still being told by some that to even discuss it is considered unpatriotic.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, it is. It's something you have to factor in. And, you know, look, if the President wasn't doing that, he's not doing his job right. He has to be able to do that. And I'm sure he's taken this into consideration. He's, you know, in. In his public speaking, he's talked about the possibility of casualties. This is not. This is not some game like. Right. It's not. It's not some jokey thing. It's not just some easy thing. This is a country that has, you know, built up military. It has been decimated to some degree. I do think they have been weakened. They do have these affiliates around the world that have been weakened, especially around the Middle east, leading up to this. And I think that's why Israel, as well as the United States saw an opportunity here, maybe a point of weakness. I would love to see the Iranian people rise up and do what President Trump has asked of them, to take this over and turn the country into not only something that I think is not a negative influence on the rest of the world, but also not a negative influence on their people. I would love to see them.

[A]

Stu, let me ask you. I would love that, too. But how can they do it? People are criticizing them right now for not, you know, going to the streets and doing what they did in mid January. It's like, well, we're bombing their cities. You know, I mean, we're bombing the hell out of them. They can't go. They can't go out in the streets and we've told them not to. But how, as a practical matter, can they with the IRGC running that country with its guns? I mean, there, there are thousands, tens of thousands of IRGC or Iranian guard, and the Iranians don't have guns. Unlike Americans, they don't have guns. Like, as a practical matter, how does it happen?

[B]

First of all, I would like to note your argument for the Second Amendment, which is, of course why it exists.

[A]

I'm in favor of the Second Amendment.

[B]

Really, really important part of this because this is the type of stuff that would be difficult to. That regime is very difficult to implement in a place like the United States. It's not just some. I think the human condition is tilted towards tyranny. Right. It's been the entire world.

[A]

We have the First Amendment, too. That's another piece of the weaponry against an oppressive government.

[B]

Massively crucial. And the reason why you don't give your people a Second Amendment, like almost every country on earth has not, is so that if you're in this situation, they can't rise up. So it is really, really difficult and probably is going to be a massive loss of life if they do it. Of course, that is up to them. Many people in that country are brave enough and may very well do it. I wouldn't be shocked if they do. And I think President Trump has outlined this as well as many officials of like, hey, you're right, this isn't the time. You might want to wait a little while until the bot bombs stop dropping. And that's what's been interesting about Trump's continued. Again, I'm critical of his communication here because I'm citing some things he's saying and he said some things that are kind of disagreeing with this. But this idea of it being several weeks, not several years, it's impossible to project that with any level of specificity. And that's, I think, one of the parts that makes me very nervous about this effort. Right. Like, I'm nervous that we're going to be able to stick to that.

[A]

But we didn't go into Iraq thinking it was going to be several years. We have it on tape, everybody promising it was going to be days, weeks, possibly, said Cheney. It wound up being almost nine years, eight years and eight months.

[B]

This is why you try to stay out of war. Right. Because it is very difficult. Even though you could come up with all the different.

[A]

Necessary. That's the good word.

[B]

Yeah. And that's a huge, I think, determining factor here. When you look at this and you step back, there's so many considerations. Right. You heard Marjorie Taylor Greene outlined a bunch of them. Right. There's a lot of things that the president has to deal with. And we are months away from an election. I can tell you $120 a barrel oil is going to be significant in that election if it sticks around there. And we can all say, yeah, well, it'll come down soon, and maybe it will. But you're taking a lot of unknowns and you're inserting them into an already difficult situation. And the time you ever want to do that is when you absolutely have to. And that is, I think the legitimate criticism here is, you know, while there was opportunity and while I think there was justification, the necessity is the question there. And I think if you can't tick off all three of those boxes, you try to stay out of the conflict because of all the unknowns you're bringing up.

[A]

Yeah. You don't want quagmire and you don't want to jeopardize American service personnel's lives. We lost yet another American service personnel. Seventh. Now, that's seven American dead as a result of this war. And you don't want to jeopardize the safety of Americans here at home. Kids and others who, you know, they come for the soft targets. I lived this. I'm not a spring chicken. I lived this from. I started at fox news in 2004. I started in news in 2003, but I was at Fox the entire time during the war on terror. And we did all the things that people want you to do as a Republican, you know, to support the war, support the president, put the casualties in context. You know, give the president the benefit of the doubt. And his emissaries, when they say things like, they're a wmd. I did it all. I did it personally, and I'm just not prepared to do that again. I have an enormous dose of skepticism around all war messaging and around all war, around all war in a way that I did not before because I lived it and I watched Americans have to deal with it on the homeland time and time again. No one thinks that our armed forces cannot defeat Iran's. Of course, obviously, we have the greatest, bravest and best military in the world, bar none. It's a question of what they will do in response, like attack our adversaries and effectively turn them, yes, against Iran. Of course, they're already against Iran in the Middle east, but also against us for not defending them adequately, for not getting enough interceptors. Over there to protect them against the missiles. But we don't have enough. That's why President Trump was meeting with the defense contractors at the White House on Friday. But they don't turn around fast. It's not easy to make these things, and it's also extremely expensive. And their ability is like that of ISIS and Al Qaeda. It's homegrown terror attacks. It's things like that ABC News report, which, you know, we do need to worry about, but we'll get to that in a second because there's more warnings on the domestic terror front. You said it's not a game, and I agree with you. And I don't think President Trump sees it as a game at all. I think he's taking it very seriously. However, one of the main people in his ear seems to think it's like a game, and that is Lindsey Graham, who is a villain in this whole thing. A villain. Listen to him over the weekend. He is frothing at the mouth on Fox Business Sunday. I think it's three or four. Deb, you. You play the right one.

[B]

Israel in the United States, you just wait to see what comes in the next two weeks.

[A]

The next two weeks, meaning what?

[B]

We're going to blow the hell out of these people.

[A]

Okay. He's jubilant. I would be remiss if I did not mention the Jesse Kelly response to this on X, which was, calm down. He, he might not, he might, he might not be talking about weapons. Okay, that was funny. You have to laugh where you can. But then he followed up with this in SOT4. If we get in a fight, I

[B]

want to win it. I want to win it quick. I'm in Miami. You see this hat? Free Cuba. Stay tuned. The liberation of Cuba is upon us. We're marching through the world. We're cleaning out the bad guys. Iran is going down and Cuba is next.

[A]

We're marching through the world and cleaning out the bad guys. No. What the. Who voted for that? No one voted for that. Trump ran on keeping us out of war, especially out of a Middle east war. And now you've got this lunatic saying, we're marching through the world and taking down all the bad guys. No. No one elected you to do that. And no one elected President Trump to do that either. And I actually don't think that's on President Trump's agenda. I think on Iran, he was manipulated by people like Lindsey Graham. And I know that thanks to the Wall Street Journal that did a deep dive. And it being Lindsey Graham, General Jack Keane and my old pal Mark Thiessen from Fox News, who were primarily in his ear, pushing in addition to Bibi Netanyahu pushing for this war. But your thoughts on Lindsey Graham and his messaging there, Stu?

[B]

Well, Megan, it's been known for a while that Lindsey Graham sucks in every way imaginable. I'm not a fan of him. And one of the worst parts about Lindsey Graham is he's not the senator from Vermont or Maine or Massachusetts. Like we could actually have a good Republican senator from South Carolina. We could get one elected. You know, we've done it before, could do it again. I don't understand the whole Lindsey Graham thing. He seems to be a one issue guy which is continually pushing for this sort of international involvement in every way possible. Yeah, it's constant with him. And you know, look, he is who he is. He's been pretty consistent on this. I mean, he ran for president as a one issue candidate. Right. To push the United States towards these types of arguments. So I guess I'll give him points for consistency. But that's not where Donald Trump has been. Trump has been fighting against this for the entire time. I mean, this has been, he is not, he hasn't been anti war. I don't think that's fair to say. I think he doesn't like war. He doesn't like that sort of involvement. But he is interested in having the United States have an influence on the world. I've been workshopping this and why not roll it out on one of the biggest shows in the world. But tell me if you think, if I have anything here, one of the arguments against U.S. involvement around the world, kind of from a more libertarian perspective over the years, has been this idea that we don't want to be the world's policeman. And that is something I think is, is an inaccurate way of phrasing what they were criticizing, which was really like more like the Iraq war and more like getting involved in everything everywhere and you know, putting up shop for 10, 20 years in a country and trying to nation build and you know, the world's policemen got summarized to that in a way. It feels like Trump in a way has actually embraced a more specific example of being the world's policeman. He does seem to want to get involved in a lot of these things, but quickly. Like a police officer doesn't come in and set up shop in the hallway of an apartment building for 10 years. Right.

[A]

Moves in with you.

[B]

Yeah, they come in, they deal with the issue going on and they get out and give you A chance to live your life. I mean, what happened in Venezuela is really an interesting example of that. Right. Maduro was, again, very justified that we would have a problem with him and be involved in that situation. He saw an opportunity and went in there, took him out. And I would much more prefer a different leader there than Delsey, who I think is terrible and likely the second Trump's out of office is going to be back to exactly who Maduro was. But he seems to be okay with taking care of an issue and then stepping back. And that gives you maybe some hope for what we are going to see here in Iran.

[A]

The problem with this, you know as well as I do that they just elected the Supreme Leader's son to be the next supreme Leader, who is more of a hardliner than the dead Ayatollah, who's more radical, more hardline, more anti American, more anti Israel, and more pro nuclear. That's the problem with getting rid of these evil leaders in foreign countries. You never know what you're gonna get. Now, Trump's answer is to say he didn't specify about this guy, but he basically said we're gonna kill anybody who we don't agree to as Iran's next leader. I mean, that's quite a. That's quite a promise. Maybe the president will live up to it. But I also worry about the Trump administration. I worry about the Trump family. I worry about the next president. Because assassinating a foreign country's leader has consequences that will last generations. I mean, we really have no idea how long that will be the head of our enemies and how badly they will seek retribution for it. But I mean, if we just continue assassinating leader after leader in Iran, to pretend that's not going to have any consequences is folly.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, Iran's learning that in a way, right? Like they wanted to take out President Trump and they're finding out that that's not. Maybe that wasn't a good idea. And I think it is. Makes you very nervous. Right. And that's the problem here. I mean, when I say, like, I hope President Trump's approach and his kind of outward position of this being limited is the direction we go, we have to acknowledge that he's not the only one with a voice in that. Right. The new leader of Iran has a voice in that as well. And he might not want it to end. He might not want it to be a four or five week operation. He might consider putting terror cells in the United States for years and years and years to come. Now, luckily, we have a little bit better control of our border than we did in previous times. But. But it's impossible to stop all of this.

[A]

We know they're already here, Stu. They're all ready.

[B]

They were already here for years as we were complaining about years and years and years ago. Megan, you go back to, you know, the 9 11, the post 911 days, one of the big concerns we had was how many people from areas like Iran were crossing the border and coming into this country. You know, there's plenty of people here from Iran that are not involved in that, but there have been people who are illegally here, who are likely to be sleeper cells. We've had many reports over the years that intelligence shows there are people here. So we don't know how this blows up. Right. And like most people, if this regime is able to stay in power, meaning the sun sticks around, or there's some Islamic extremist regime that sticks around, they're not likely to forget this and just say, ah, well, you know, pragmatically we're in trouble here. I guess we should do whatever Donald Trump says. Like, this is much more ideological regimen.

[A]

Service has had enough trouble protecting President Trump. You know, they. There was a very near miss at Butler, Pennsylvania. What happened at his. At his golf course was not reassuring. Yes, they found the guy with the rifle. But many of us still wonder how the guy with the rifle got so close to the president and was sitting, lying in wait for hours and hours on his property with a gun sticking between the fence. And then Secret Service shot at him and missed repeatedly. He got away. They tracked him down after. But, I mean, I'm just saying, like, I don't think we should. It would be much better. And any security guard protecting you as a public official or even figure will tell you that the main goal is to protect you long before the bad guy ever gets within your radius. Right. It's monitoring the online threats, making sure the security perimeter around you is fortified and all that. And while, you know, we haven't been great, we have not been great about doing that for Trump. Hopefully, we're getting better. But Trump has got a very big family. Trump has got grandkids, he's got kids, he's got, you know, it's just we're playing with fire here. And so to your point, I want to be better convinced that this was a need, it was a must do, and I am not convinced of that at all. I don't see myself getting convinced of that, though. I continue to talk to supporters of the war Because I want to know both arguments and I want my arc, my audience to hear both arguments fleshed out. Not just my opinion, but Lindsey Graham. He's got to go. By the way, an interesting question. So Lindsey Graham at least is disclosing to his credit the amount of times like he lobbied the president and went to Netanyahu. And I'll get to that. I do wonder whether it's been disclosed that these other Fox News contributors were in the president's ear and actually making the case to him over and over. Because we spent a lot of time on this show ripping on people over on msnbc, like the historian, what's his name, Jon Meacham, for writing President Biden's speech for him and then going on MSNBC and praising the speech. So if you were a key advisor to President Trump, pushing him to get into this war, you cannot go out on the airwaves of Fox and just act like a random pundit supporting it. You have to disclose. And maybe they did, but you do have to disclose that you were, you have a, a horse in the race. You know, you help make it happen. That's, that's an important thing to disclose. But here's Lindsey Graham, the Wall Street Journal. He gave an interview to the Journal. So this is not their secret reporting. This is him to help make the case on Iran. Graham. Graham traveled several times to Israel in recent weeks, meeting with members of the country's intelligence agency. Quote, they'll tell me things our own government won't tell me. He spoke with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, coaching him on how to lobby President Trump for action. Netanyahu showed the president intelligence that persuaded Trump to go ahead, said Graham. Now, like we continue to be called anti Semitic, if you say that we're doing this because of Israel, we are 100% doing this because of Israel. If you used a but for cause, would we be doing this if Israel were not involved? The answer is no, we wouldn't. We've heard that from Marco Rubio. Now we hear that from Lindsey Graham directly. We, it's been reported by left and right wing outlets alike. Iran was sorry. Israel was the one pushing for this war. And Lindsey Graham helped, and so did some Fox News contributors and so did many others who are Israel firsters, like Mark Levin. He goes on to say Graham talked to the Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman as well to make sure he was aware. I went to MBS to say, okay, I think this is going down. Talk about the Fox News contributors who took turns calling the president Trump and compared notes. Graham said there were not a lot of other voices advancing the argument for action. Just. I will pause here to say I don't begrudge them that. They thought this was a good idea. I happen to love Mark Thiessen and I have nothing but respect for General Keane. I deeply admire both of them. I'm talking about what Fox is or is not requiring of them in terms of disclosures. But I, and look, the president, I love the president and clearly he's in support of the war. I, unlike so many of my critics, can hold in my head two things that one time we disagree vehemently on policy, but you're not a bad person, okay? Like, that's. To me, that's a leftist fucking thing to do. That. And these people who want to cut people out of conservative movement because they're anti Israel, they're anti war is sick. It's sick and deranged. I'm not one of them. Here's another. Trump called Graham this week to praise his television appearances. Oh, my God. Graham saw an opportunity. The senator said he pitched Trump on bombing Iranian and Hezbollah elements inside Lebanon. Trump said he'd think about it. Graham recalled, quote, I just think he has seen the capability of our military. Graham goes on, what I don't understand is why more people don't do it, try to shape these events. This is a moment of world history here. Just jump in the deep end of the pool. This guy is a homicidal maniac with a bloodlust that is insatiable. He wants us. He got us into the Iranian war. Lindsey Graham. Now he wants us to get involved in a Lebanese war, which Israel's already starting, or involved in, and he wants us to go into Cuba from the sound of it, possibly. Is that a boots on the ground situation? I don't know. But this guy should be nowhere near President Trump. He should not be allowed within 20ft of the President's orbit. And the President should make the decision to keep this guy the hell away from him or at least in his own mind, shut down his influence. This is not a force for good in the United States of America. Lindsey Graham.

[B]

It's funny because I think, like, making the argument passionately for conflict with Iran is an argument you can make. A lot of people are highly convinced of this, and I don't think that's the problem. I think the problem here is, and the thing that I guess shocks me, that Trump keeps him in his orbit at all is because he keeps admitting this stuff that, like, he's he's manipulating, he's attempting to manipulate the President of the United States. I would think Trump would hate that and hate anyone who would ever admit that, you know, because, like, you know, for example, like Megan, like, you're passionate about a lot of things. I'm passionate about a lot of things. If, you know, if you went to President Trump and you talked to him about, you know, an issue about, you know, men playing in women's sports and you were able to convince him to influence him in some way to pass a bill that brought some sanity into that world, like, there'd be no problem with you doing that. There's no problem with you doing that. There's no problem with Lindsey Graham, in theory, making an argument about what he thinks is right. I don't have that issue. Right. I think that's okay. And at the end of the day, it comes down to it is the President's responsibility to listen to all these voices, the team of rivals listen to all.

[A]

And he listened to Tucker Carlson too, to his credit. Tucker made the hard case against the war and the President listened to, listened to him and ultimately overruled him. And as is his right, he's the President, not Tucker, not Lindsey.

[B]

Exactly. And a lot of those people who, the same people who are making the argument for Iran and maybe won the day on that particular issue were making the same argument about Ukraine and maybe didn't win that one. And I think President Trump is taking these things individually and trying to judge them on the merits of the situation. The. I'm always, I'm very risk averse on this stuff though. Right. And you know, someone like Lindsey Graham isn't. He is, you know, like, get out there, mix it up and like, let all the chips fall all over the place. And, you know, sometimes they fall on American citizens. And I, that makes me very, very nervous. And you know, to come back a little bit to the political side of this, this should be the central focus of the American conservative movement. When you're talking about just political strategy. We have a bunch of these senators and House members who are very conservative districts that we can do better than. We can improve those situations without losing, settle for more. Oh, yes, thank you. A lot of times we seem to do this thing where we're like, well, we have a moderate in a, in a, you know, a place like Delaware. And we're like, oh, we got to make sure we take out that moderate in Delaware. Look, I would like everyone to be as conservative as possible, but you want the most conservative person in an area that is able to win. And, you know, look, that is not because I care about winning per se. It's about it because I care about the policies behind that winning. And we keep sitting here, you know, John Cornyn is another one here in Texas. Like, we have really good senators in red states. We should be able to put them in, you know, go after these primaries in sensible ways, win them when conservative candidates, and then bring those candidates into the forefront in the states where they can easily win. A lot of times, we just wind up getting off. You know, we're like, oh, well, this guy's been there forever, so let's just keep him there. We should try.

[A]

What is Lindsey like, What are the people of South Carolina doing with Lindsey Graham? Honestly, this man, like, he has undermined the safety of the United States long enough. He's undermined the President's valuable inputs long enough, and he's making this whole thing into a national laughingstock. Oh, we're, you know, we're the. We are the police center of the world. That's what he said. There are bad guys all over the world. We're on the march against them.

[B]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[A]

You have no fucking kids and no fucking clue. Those of us who have children, especially the moms I know who have kids who are in the armed forces don't have the same bloodlust that you have. Childless, weird man. It's really upsetting to me that because Lindsey Graham decided in his dark corner basement that he wanted to get off again watching bombs blow up. Seven service personnel are now dead. I'm just. I'm sorry, but I just feel like he has no fucking compassion for human life. All he wants to do is see bombs go off. And President Trump needs to understand that he is undermining everything President Trump is doing. Pete Hegseth is taking a lot of heat for sounding very bellicose and kind of threatening and unapologetic about the power of the American military. I understand that criticism because normally when we talk about ourselves as the American military, we use humility because we know we're the strongest. So it doesn't. It doesn't make us look good to talk about how strong we are and how we can crush anybody. But I forgive Pete Hegseth because he's in the. The middle of commanding a war. President Trump, too, is in the middle of. He's the ultimate commander. But President Trump is. I mean, Secretary of War Pete Hegseth is running this military operation at the top with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and of course he's in a certain mindset right now and he needs also to worry about comms, communications and so that's where he's coming at it from. Lindsey Graham is inexcusable and should not be allowed back on television. Period. Nevermind in office. Standby. Quick break. Back with Stu. He's here for the whole show, which we're lucky to have. Let's talk about what's really happening right now. New data shows that financial stress is at an all time high. For some, many Americans are at a breaking point. Debt maxed out, no extra money, no room to breathe. And some people are running out of options. 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Predictable with Stu. Find out [e-mail] and the relaunched Stu and Dave, the newly added Dave do America. I look forward to watching them both. Stu. So just one final note on Lindsey Graham. I do find it interesting because after all the guff he's been getting from, I mean, it's all over the right wing. It's not just the people who have questions about this war. It's like he's been being universally panned as a deep problem when it comes to becoming a face of the administration. My God, Trump is too smart for that. But there is now a report that in the wake of him getting criticized for his bloodlust, he pushed back slightly on what Israel is doing in Iran. Namely, they're targeting the oil depots. And doing that the fuel depots has led to black oil rain coming down on Tehran on the faces of babies and children and civilians who are complaining about their lips sore, raw, they feel like burns, feels like diluted tear gas in the air, eyes irritated, headaches. I mean, God only knows what the toxic fallout of this is going to be for the Iranian people whom we are trying to help. Let's not forget we're trying to help the Iranian people. It's the regime with whom we have a problem. And finally, Lindsey Graham comes out and says, this was all Israel saying, our allies in Israel have shown amazing capability when it comes to collapsing the murderous regime in Iran, America is most appreciative. This is Graham on X. However, there will be a day soon that the Iranian people will be in charge of their own fate, not the murderous Ayatollah's regime. In that regard, please be cautious about what targets you select. Our goal is to liberate the Iranian people in a fashion that does not cripple their chance to start a new and better life. When this regime collapses, the oil economy of Iran will be essential to that endeavor. Yashar Ali, who's an Iranian American, writes, you know how badly you have to mess up to get Lindsey Graham, who gets his preferred pornographic material from drone strike footage instead of onlyfans to say, you should be more careful making the point that the Israelis have gone too far. They've gone too far. There was a report that a desalinization plant had been hit, which is deeply problematic, if true, because now you're talking about the water supply to the people and that that's an absolute must for, for life, never mind for wellness there's no question that the United States is trying to be careful and I assume Israel's trying to be careful too. But that's a massive mess up to cause that situation in Tehran to the point where babies are getting showered in oil and toxic gas fumes. That's not okay. And then there's the matter of the girls school stew which has been bombed. 170 dead. And I mean, that is just heartbreaking. The pictures of the children killed in this school. It was on the first day of the bombings. Now the Wall Street Journal is reporting that they believe that the intel suggests it was the United States. Pete Hegseth has said we are investigating. And President Trump in an interview said he doesn't believe it was us. Laura Ingram of Fox News, among others, saying if this was us, we need to own it and we need to apologize. There is zero chance the United States would ever intentionally hit a school of children. 0. We do not do that kind of thing. But there is a possibility that we did it inadvertently, as the Wall Street Journal appears to be reporting. The point is there's fallout to war and it's ugly and it's heartbreaking and leads me back to the same place, which is let's declare this a win and get out. The Ayatollah is dead. Many in the top of the regime are dead. We've given Iran a fighting chance to fight for its future. You know, I don't know. Somebody's going to have to help them with guns because the IRGC is not just going to roll over at this point. From the look of it, maybe it's not us, maybe it's somebody else, ideally, but some bad things are happening. Okay, let's get to what's happening in New York. So now in the wake of all this, you have. I want to spell out what happened. This group goes to Gracie Mansion in New York City, outside of Gracie Mansion, which is where Mamdani is living, where all New York mayors live, and they started a protest. Hold on, I'm trying to look for the name of it. Here it is. They stop the Islamic takeover of New York City protest and stop New York City public Muslim prayer. 20 people showed up. Okay, so it's a small thing. There's a group of people who, they don't like the Muslim takeover in New York as they see it, and they're out there protesting. Jake Lang was one of the participants. He was front and center during the Minneapolis protest too. He's a. He was arrested for J6. Prior to that, the New York Post, which is not biased against conservatives, writes that he is a conservative right wing influencer. That's how they describe him. And he was definitely there and part of that group. Then the counter protesters showed up. They called their group Run the Nazis out of New York City, Stand against Hate. I think the Nazis are the first group, in their view, who are opposed to, you know, the Muslim call to prayer being broadcast five times a day in New York. And they had about 125 protesters. So they had way more five times as many or so than the other side. What happened? Two protesters from the counter protest, from the Stop the Nazis rally shouted Allahu Akbar and tossed two count em, two homemade devices into a crowd. An IED filled with nails that failed to go off. And now we're getting the police commissioner, Jessica Tisch. Is this cut Deb, commenting on it in particular? Yeah, I think we have this. And let's listen to the police commissioner describe what they've discovered so far. I can confirm this morning that this is being investigated as an act of ISIS inspired terrorism. I can also provide some additional information building on my remarks from Saturday evening. At that time, we were beginning to conduct preliminary analysis of two devices that were ignited and deployed earlier that day. Preliminary test results determined that these were not hoax devices nor smoke bombs. They were improvised explosive devices that could have caused serious injury or death. Part of our initial investigation was was to determine what energetic substance, if any, was used used in the two devices. And our analysis showed that one of the devices deployed by the subjects contained the substance triacetone triperoxide known as tatp. Now, TATP is a dangerous and highly volatile homemade explosive that has been used in IED attacks around the world. So both devices were IEDs in an act of ISIS inspired terrorism right here on the homeland in New York City. And this. But for the listening audience, Zoram Mamdani was standing right next to her as she made those comments. So he's heard it all. But what we've heard from the mayor so far amounts to the following post on X, which was a day after the attacks. The attacks happened on Saturday. Thank God, by the way, they did not detonate and nobody was hurt. Thank God. But they could have, easily could have. I mean, it's basically a nail bomb. And a day passes and he posts the following on Sunday. I'm going to read it in full because it's so outrageous. Yesterday, white supremacist Jake Lang organized a protest outside Gracie Mansion. Rooted in bigotry and racism, such hate has no place in New York City. It is an affront to our city's values and the unity that defines who we are. Okay, so first of all, he's begun with white supremacy, alleged white supremacy. He's literally just seen police who are on the receiving end of that bomb throw attacked with an ied. And his lead is, there's someone I consider to be a white supremacist outside of Gracie Mansion, and that's bigotry and racism and has no place in New York City. Then he gets to the second piece, which is obviously the most important and completely whiffs on who did what to whom and who said what as they did it. Like Allahu Akbar. All right? He writes violence and approaches. This is. He goes right from. Okay, it's a. Is an affront, our city's values and the unity that defines who we are. What followed was even more disturbing. But he doesn't say it like who did it and what they yelled. Violence at a protest is never acceptable. The attempt to use an explosive device and hurt others is not only criminal, it's reprehensible and the antithesis of who we are. I want to thank the brave men and women of the NYPD who acted quickly to help keep New Yorkers safe. Where is the part about ISIS inspired terrorists shouting Allahu Akbar, Throwing an IED at cops? We have video of one of the devices and of the moment. Let's watch it. Sat 6.

[B]

He threw a bomb. Yo, did he throw a bomb, bro?

[A]

It's right there on camera. You can see the guy run, throw the bomb and shout Allahu Akbar. There's another video that's similar and. Yeah, Wait a minute. Is that. Here he is. Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. Stu Mamdani did speak this morning next to Tish, and let's check in to see if he got to. Allahu Akbar. ISIS inspired IED thrown at cops.

[B]

On Saturday, a protest was held outside Gracie Mansion, where I live with my wife, Rama. Neither of us were home at the time. This was a vile protest rooted in white supremacy entitled Stop the Islamic takeover of New York City. I'm the first Muslim mayor of our city. Anti Muslim bigotry is nothing new to me. Nor is it anything new for the 1 million or so Muslim New Yorkers who know this city as our home. While I found this protest appalling, I will not waver in my belief that it should be allowed to happen.

[A]

Oh, my God. And then. Then he went on to say the following. Many of the counter protesters met this. This display of bigotry peacefully with a vision of a city that is welcoming to all but a few. Did not. Two men, Amir Balat and Ibrahim Kalumi k. Lummi, traveled from Pennsylvania and attempted to bring violence to New York City. They are suspected of coming here to commit an act of terrorism. There is video of these two individuals throwing two devices toward the protest. No. Nothing about an ied, nothing about Allahu Akbar, and nothing about the cops being on the receiving end of those devices. He can't bring himself to say it, Stu. And to deny what that was actually about is to endanger everyone in New York City.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I'm. I don't know about you, Megan. I'm very concerned if there's someone throwing devices into crowds. Are people getting hit in the head with iPads? Like, I don't. I don't know what. Thank you so much for your specificity there. You know, it's funny, too. I mean, I don't know anything about the group that was protesting there initially. I mean, I see. You see how the media is treating them, and, you know, I have no idea who they are or what they believe. But the speech part of it is the part that we defend, not the other side of it. Not the side of. Of. Of people who are throwing bombs into a crowd. And I'm. I mean, I will say it's understandable to be confused in a moment like this. You have, apparently, this. The. The side that hates Jews and is being violent is the Stop the Nazi movement. That's. We're.

[A]

Right.

[B]

We're supposed to believe the people throwing bombs into the crowds of the Stop the Nazi movement.

[A]

It makes you really, like, what side am I on?

[B]

Very confusing. It's funny, because he just can't. This is a core tenet of who Mamdani is. Right? Mamdani has a lot more in common, as we've seen many, many, many times with the people who were protesting the protesters, shall we say?

[A]

He's not mentioning Allahu Akbar because those are his favorite words.

[B]

He didn't mention the names initially as well, because the idea is, oh, gosh, well, there's a bunch of Nazis in the street. And for a long time. And this is a sentiment that Mamdani himself on social media has sort of shown against both people he sees as Nazis, but also even police officers back in the day, that it's kind of like, okay, when bad things happen to them. If we see an officer crying in his car after, God, maybe his partner was killed, oh, well, there's good things going on in the world. This is kind of the guy he is now.

[A]

He is.

[B]

And I think, you know, you've probably seen this as well. Megan, you know, I know, you know, being in New York, if you're there at all. I was there last week. The dude is everywhere. He is on every billboard. He's in every cab, constantly talking to you with that stupid smile of his.

[A]

He makes Christy Noem look shy.

[B]

Wow. Because that takes some doing. And you're right. He's everywhere. And this is a strategy for him, is to take a guy with beliefs that are way out of the mainstream, even for insane New Yorkers. I can say this. I was born in New York. Even for insane New Yorkers, he's way out of the mainstream of that group. And he thinks he can kind of paper over that with a nice big smile. As long as he smiles enough and is like, you know, hanging out with kids and laughing at what they say at the kindergartners, people will go along with what he believes. The core of him is dark. I mean, this is a guy who believes really terrible things. People around him might even be worse. He's choosing them with an incredible.

[A]

There's no question he is surrounded by anti Semites. There's just. There's no question. Long proven anti Semites. It's like. And. And that, of course, is one of the reasons why he won't point out what this was, that this is radical Muslim terrorism. That's what this was. This is a radical Islamic terrorist attack on the people of New York City. That's what this was. Including cops. And. And he will be aided, and is being aided currently in that. By the media, as you point out. There's New York Times. Here's the headline. US Authorities are investigating device throne near Gracie Mansion. Well, now, that omits some key details, doesn't it? New York Times. Here's NBC local. Mayor Mamdani was not at home when protesters lit device outside Gracie Mansion. I mean, to your point, they could have set an iPad on fire. I wouldn't know any different from that headline. And then there's GB News. That's our friends across the pond who are more fair and balanced. They're, you know, relatively new cable outlet over there. They managed to get it right. How'd they get it right? They're not even American. How did they get a better headline than the New York Times has happened in New York City. Here's the GB News headline. Terror probe launched after ISIS fanatics hurl bomb near New York City Mayor's home. Boom, there it is. It's not that hard. NBC and New York Times.

[B]

Yeah. One thing you can do is tell the story. This is supposed to be a very basic part of journalism. You just tell the story and you to let people know what the facts are. And you don't. You know, it's not your responsibility as a journalist to win for your side. Right. Like this has been the temptation of journalists for a very long time. And that like, you know, they don't tell you the Hunter Biden story because it might allow people to vote for this guy that we don't, we all don't want. Right. We all understand that would be bad for the country.

[A]

From our bad instincts.

[B]

Exactly. We have to protect the American people. This is a very progressive instinct. Right. When you're a progressive, you go back to the earliest, early 20th century progressives. This is kind of their, their staple, right. It was that the American people are too dumb. They need to be led. We need to be the herders of sheep. They're not going to be able to understand and do the right thing, even if they might have the best intentions. They're over taken by their hatred, by their bigotry. This is a sentiment that Barack Obama in 2008 clearly tried to get across. People were, they've got their scary belief in guns and immigrants that are bad and all these terrible things and we can't trust them. We have to help them get over that thing that they have as if it's some sort of ailment. You know, people believe what they believe. It's not your job as a journalist to try to direct them toward a particular way of viewing facts. It's your job to bring them the facts.

[A]

It's amazing to me because the New York Times now, like most Democrats is very anti Israel. So they will print, you know, all the bad things about Israel in connection with this war, for example. But two minutes spent looking at clearly ISIS inspired terror in its own hometown. And it's a mystery, it's, I mean, what they posted over the weekend, their headline over the weekend after it happened, after, after it was determined that these were bombs by the, by the New York Times or by the, by the nypd. And by the way, like Tish, the, the police commissioner, she didn't make any bones about it. Like she talked about how, trying to find the concoction, she said, yeah, this mother of Satan is what the New York Post reported. She described it, she said sports drink bottles filled with triacetone triperoxide or tatp. You heard her Reference it there in today's conference. A substance favored by terrorists and known as mother of Satan, which is so volatile that it typically does not require a fuse to go off. That was already known, was already being reported that these were bombs. And this is what the New York Times originally went with. Smoking jars of metal and fuses thrown at protest near mayor's house. What would be another word for smoking jars of metal and fuses with a bunch of self igniting mother of Satan chemicals inside. Stu, I'm just trying to think. Can you think of it?

[B]

The lights they will go to. I mean it's just absolutely incredible. It's like we have a circular piece of dough with tomato sauce and cheese. Cheese on top of it. What's another term for it? Right? They got a bunch of pizzas. There's no need. I don't know that this fools people. I think there might be a part of this that allows their audience to get over the hump of that their side is doing things that are terrible, right? Like instead of, you know, when it's easy to call anyone related to Donald Trump a white supremacist without any thought, right? Because they, you know, are against affirmative action or something, they're a white supremacist. And like their audience never will really question that. Obviously, if you don't agree with us on these issues, you're bad, you're a Nazi, you're a white supremacist with their side. Like when there's things like the word bomb is like really hard to be on the right side of it. Right. Like, you know, and you know, especially out in a domestic context, right. Like if you're talking about throwing a bomb into a crowd, there's almost no way to present that as the right activity. So they just try to dismantle it. I mean really like dismantle what occurred. You know, make it seem like it's either an iPad or a jar with fuses and maybe it doesn't sound as offensive. I don't know. They know their audience better than I do, I guess because to me that wouldn't help at all. Like I would see through it immediately and I would see through it on our side.

[A]

They're on the, the New York Times is on the side of the ISIS throwing device. The ISIS device throwing people. I just think they're, at some level, they've always been more sympathetic to them in recent history anyway once they're not in favor of Israel. So they're like, okay. And they're certainly not in favor of white Supremacists. So they're like, okay, yeah, these are bad people. And we're on the side of the counter protests. And because it was two of these so called counter protesters, AKA terrorists here, they're confused to, on what to do. It's like, wait a minute, we're kind of more sympathetic to their side, but they, they threw bombs, so that's bad. Maybe we can downplay the bomb right into being not a bomb. And this not being about Allahu Akbar or isis. I mean, that's, that's why, like, back to my point, you're gonna have to buckle up until this whole Iran thing is over because the media, they don't know what to do, right? Like, they're all over the place. They're against Israel. So now they're pro domestic terror attacks. Like, not it. New York Times. Try again. You can have questions about the war and still say terror at home is bad. Work on it. Work on it. Try a little harder. Okay, let's keep going. It's time for a little spring cleaning. And here is a place to start. Go and drag your old dated wireless contract out of the closet and beat it with a broom. Then freshen things up by switching to PureTalk, who gives you unlimited talk, text and plenty of data for just 25 bucks a month. No contract, no cancellation fees, and no overseas customer service. If you ever need help, maybe you will like them as much as Lois. Listen to Lois's review. Quote. Switched to Pure Talk a few years ago. Amazing. Same coverage and clarity as Verizon or AT&T a fraction of the price. Award winning customer service just upgraded to an iPhone 16E and the support and deals were superb. Why anyone is still getting ripped off by the big guys is beyond me. She writes. Want to make the switch? Dial pound250 and then say Megyn Kelly and switch to pure talk. Dial £250, say Megyn Kelly and you will also save 50% 5 0% off your first month. Our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, says Washington politicians are always getting in your wallet and now they're messing with your credit card. They say your credit card and the security it offers are under attack. And that Senators Dick Durbin and Roger Marshall want to change the nation's payment system to benefit corporate megastores like Walmart and Target at the expense of everyday Americans. Credit cards can keep your payments secure and provide rewards that families use to help make everyday purchases more affordable. The Electronic Payments Coalition says the Durbin Marshall mandates would let corporate megastores cut corners on credit card processing, routing transactions over cheaper, untested networks with weaker security and fewer protections. Find out [e-mail] and consider telling Congress to guard your card at Nature's Bounty. The belief is simple. You already have a brilliant body. Supplements just help support your journey. For over 50 years, nature's bounty has offered vitamins and supplements to help you eat, sleep, thrive, repeat from magnesium glycinate for heart and muscle support to hair growth capsules for fuller, thicker hair and probiotics with 20 billion live cultures for digestion Nature's Bounty it's in your nature to thrive. Learn [e-mail] these statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.

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off go test yourself hey everyone, it's me, Megyn Kelly. I've got some exciting news. I now have my very own channel on Sirius. It's called the Megyn Kelly Channel and it is where you will hear the truth unfiltered, with no agenda and no apologies. Along with the Megyn Kelly show, you're gonna hear from people like Mark Halperin, link Lauren, Maureen Callahan, Emily Jashinsky, Jesse Kelly, RealClearPolitics, and many more. It's bold. No BS news only on the Megyn Kelly Channel, SiriusXM 111 and on the SiriusXM app. There was an interesting exchange on Bill Maher over the weekend. He had shifty Schiff, Adam Schiff, Senator now on his show and Maher. I guess Adam Schiff didn't really listen to Mars Monologue because Maher is in favor of the war. He's not in favor of ground troops there, which Trump continues to leave open as a possibility. Please don't do that President Trump. Please don't put American boots on the ground in Iran. But in any event, okay, he's not in favor of that, but he is in favor of the conflict of the war and he set up a trap Maher did for Senator Schiff, which was very interesting.

[B]

Watch this this statement from the administration the president had the constitutional authority to direct the use of military force because he could reasonably determine that such use of force was in the national interest. That's too vague for you. Totally vague. Okay, because that's from Obama.

[A]

How good is that? I mean, when the shoe is on the other foot, right? It's all these Democrats were defending President Obama and his use of the military, his use of drones. They had no problem. Only now I'm like, I have no patience for the whole this is illegal and Trump can't do it argument. That bullshit. Where were you when Obama was droning American citizens? Just take a seat. Right? But, like, what the Democrats are doing to the president here is nakedly political, and I don't believe out of deep concern for what's best for the country.

[B]

It's so transparent. I mean, it's difficult. It really is a confusing world out there. You know, I grew up my entire life thinking of Democrats as the ones who had their prominent politicians go on their honeymoons to the Soviet Union. And then all of a sudden, now I'm supposed to understand that they really don't like Russia. And anyone who agrees with Russia are the bad guys. Is this stuff flips on a seemingly daily basis these days, and they can't keep track of it. There's no principle behind it. Right. Like, it's great.

[A]

It's great to watch somebody like Bill Martin catch one of them.

[B]

Oh, that's so satisfying. Because they didn't have any of these feelings. They had none of this stuff back then. Like, this is why I don't. You know, part of the reason why I started the predictable show, you mentioned it earlier, predictableshow.com is it deals with these prediction markets are kind of a new thing. And one of the things I really love about them is they have a way of cutting through all this nonsense, right? Because people are putting their money. They're putting their money where their mouth is. And most people won't put their money for something that they don't actually believe. Yet we put people on television constantly that are just tossing things out there that are totally at odds with what they said on TV three weeks before that. It drives me absolutely nuts. And I think that's a real problem that we have. Like, they have made a decision. They do have a principle in the media, which is they don't like Donald Trump. That principle, we sometimes describe it as tds, allows them to constantly be at odds with him. Even when I'm critical of Donald Trump for changing his argument, he might make two arguments And I say, wait a minute. You said this last week, and you said this this week. They somehow are disagreeing with him both times.

[A]

See, that is why I like Rand Paul so much. I really like him. I. He's one of the few lawmakers who I really actually respect. It's not that I agree with all of his politics at all. I don't. Some of them yes, and some of them no. But he knows who he is, and he votes accordingly. He votes according to his conscience and the policies that he thinks, like his dad, that he thinks are actually important for America. And he, you know, President Trump can't stand that. He can't be pummeled into submission. And I get it. He's frustrated a lot of Republicans being the holdout, but. But I respect it. As an independent myself, I respect that he's like, this is what I stand for, you know, like. And I got elected because I have these principles, so I'm gonna stand by them. It's very rare. Much more common is the Adam Shifty Schiff. You know, I mean, playing right up to his name in that position. Still, like, playing right to his name. Very shifty. Depending on who's doing the absolutely terrible thing that he can't stand for. The listening audience. Sitting on the set with Shifty Schiff was shifty Don Lamont, who was there to be lionized by Bill Maher. This is the love hate we have with Bill where he completely gives Lemon a pass on his behavior inside that church. And I think we have a little bit of that. Let's watch.

[B]

There's things going on in this country. I'm just. I try to keep up with the

[A]

news, and I just.

[B]

That. And they said you stood in close proximity to the pastor in an attempt to oppress and intimidate him. That's some powerful bullshit there, isn't it? I do see through that.

[A]

No, it's not some powerful bullshit. It's 100% true. We had the pastor on the show last week talking about the way he felt when Don Lemon was obviously in his space and was clearly trying to set up the pastor for something dark by saying, like, don't touch me. Lemon was like, take your hands off me. Don't push me. Meanwhile, Lemon was the one who appeared to have hands on the pastor. And Bill Maher, as is so often the case when it risks embarrassing a Democrat, did not do his homework here, Stu.

[B]

Yeah, it's funny. I mean, Bill Maher is an interesting guy. He's somewhat similar to Rand Paul in some ways. In that like, he has a well developed ideology that he's believed for a long time. And I think as is arguably pretty consistent with it in this particular case. And I think honestly the same thing with the Middle east is just Bill Barr can't stand religion. Like, just generally does not like religion. He's written books about it and whenever anyone does. Right, yeah, yeah, that's right. Religilists or something.

[A]

Religious.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Whenever someone is doing something based on religion, he generally speaking is always against what they're doing, which is, you know, again, a take. I generally speaking agree in that, like I a lot of people and there's I think, a kind of a movement a little bit on the right. I have friends who are critical of, of the word ideology as it as a negative term. And ideology can be a negative term, especially if you're applying it without any pragmatism or real world thinking. You can't just be ideological. But like, can we save a little love for ideology just from the perspective of it's a collection of beliefs that make sense with each other.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like we've abandoned this idea now. It's just like, oh, just take any section of beliefs, anything you want from around the world. Anything that gets you through the day. Say what you have to do on TV on the Senate floor, that gets you through that moment. And the second you need to reverse it, you get to reverse it. I can't stand that world. Like, I like. That doesn't help me at all. It doesn't help me as a viewer, doesn't help me as a listener to a podcast. It doesn't help me, certainly as an American citizen that has to watch these politicians do it constantly. So I'm with you on that. I like the people, you know, more like Red Paul or Bill Maher, who, you know. Even though I totally disagree with Bill Maher on the, on the issue of religion, I can still watch his show and get something out of it. I know where he's coming from.

[A]

I don't watch his show, but I watch the clips. I watch the clips. Me too. His monologues are very funny. I'm not much for the guests that he has on the show, to be honest, but depends, you know, hit or miss. But it's not something I would like subscribe to or make sure it was appointment viewing. But I like him overall. Even though we disagree on so many things, I like him. I think he's very clever and I think he plays a very important role in our national dialogue. But he doesn't Bat a thousand. That's clear. Because Don Lemon did cross a line. And I feel that Bill would see it very differently if that had been Megyn Kelly barging into an abortion clinic and saying to the terrified women as they fled, trauma's all part of it. Trauma's a part of my protest. Right. That's as American as apple pie. He would see very clearly how that was very wrong. And that is not me acting as an independent journalist or a journalist at all. Okay, let's keep going. I mentioned at the top the Jesse Jackson funeral happened. Honestly had, as I said, very positive experiences with Jesse Jackson during my years at fox. He was not one of those crazy, crazy leftist, you know, race essentialism guys. You know, he had the Rainbow PUSH coalition, and he made a lot of difference in the lives of many people, a lot of African Americans. But he wasn't some crazy. He wasn't like. He wasn't Al Sharpton territory. He certainly wasn't an Ibram x Kendi type. And he was very open minded to talking to Republicans about the issues that were important to him. That was my own take on it, and I think that was Roger Hill's take on him too. So all these dignitaries show up at his funeral and reportedly they were asked not to. Not to get political, given the way that Jesse Jackson was in life. Please don't get political. While they couldn't contain themselves. And while I said at the top it was President Clinton, President Obama and President Biden who came under Jesse Jackson Jr. S attack, I inserted Clinton in there wrongly because what he said was, three presidents came to this event and like, basically wrongfully didn't do what I asked them to do. And I think he was confused, cuz actually, Bill Clinton did not make a political. But you know who did? Kamala Harris. Like from word one. So I think his reference to three presidents, you know, kind of included her as a vice president. But Jesse Jackson Jr. Was not. Not happy. And who could blame him? I'm gonna give you a little. A little sampling of how it sounded. Here's Harris, who starts with like, hey, nice to be here. We're here for a funeral. And then, boom, immediately gets political in this outwatch.

[B]

And to the entire Jackson family.

[A]

On behalf of Doug and my family,

[B]

we pray with you as we did a couple weeks ago in your home.

[A]

And we thank you. I thank you. So let me just say I predicted

[B]

a lot about what's happening right now. I'm not into saying I told you

[A]

so, but we did see it coming. And she kept Going. It wasn't just her. I mean, she's. She's so insufferable, Stu. Is she not? I mean, just like.

[B]

Oh, if we could just take a moment, Megan, to just appreciate the fact that When Jesse Jackson Jr. Says three presidents, he was incorrect, that she was one of them. Thank God.

[A]

Thank God.

[B]

Thank God we don't have to deal with that nonsense and hopefully never will. It's just absolutely. She's terrible. I mean, the reason she lost is. She's just terrible at this. She really is. And for some reason, Democrats see this as constantly, like, their big chance to make a political speech when there's someone who had just passed away.

[A]

Yeah. Someone who died. What? How is that your great chance, by the way? He wasn't a politician. You know, he's a thought leader, but he wasn't a politician. I want to give you a little bit more of Kamala Harris, who, again, she just gave a sound bite, like, a week ago. Not even maybe. Or just over about 10 days ago, opening the door once again, probably wider than she has to a presidential run. She's gonna do it. This woman's running, and this is what we're gonna be subjected to. She hasn't even brushed up on new phrases for her act. She's recycling all the old shit. Listen to SOT13 to understand, as has been said, the beauty that comes after the storm when we see what is possible and what can be unburdened by what has been. That was a Jesse Jackson pin from those days.

[B]

And Jesse, just a beautiful example of

[A]

his determination, his sense of humor, but

[B]

his ability to see what can be

[A]

unburdened by what has been. Okay.

[B]

Speech.

[A]

You know, it's the duality of it in that if you were to take out the Venn diagram, Stu, she has no new lines.

[B]

That's unbelievable. Like, especially because that in particular was something that everyone criticized. Like, everyone made fun of her. That criticism had to have gotten to her at some point, I would assume. And here she is still trotting this stuff out. And this is because she doesn't have thoughts. You know, she doesn't have, like, original thoughts. She's like a person who's, like. Who's just kind of existing and sees herself as this sort of machine that just pumps out things that people are supposed to like her. Right? And I guess that's how her life went.

[A]

She is burdened by thoughts and used to getting ahead on the fact that she is black and she is a woman. And the Democrat party, that is typically enough, it was enough to make her the nominee. And we'll see whether they proceed with that kind of folly the next time as well. Let's keep going because here's Biden. Biden, he also got political. I mean, again, he had been asked not to do this by the family of the deceased. And yet, take a listen.

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We're in a tough spot, folks.

[A]

We got an administration that doesn't share any of the values that we have. I don't think I'm exaggerating a little bit. No one can understand a word you're saying, sir. Go back to your basement and your pudding. Stand by. Here's Barack Obama. Same thing. Disrespecting the wishes of the family.

[B]

We are living in a time when it can be hard to hope. Each day we wake up to some new assault on our democratic institutions. Another setback to the idea of the rule of law. Everywhere we see greed and bigotry being celebrated and bullying and mockery masquerading as strength. It may be tempting for some to

[A]

compromise with power

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and grab what you can, or even for good people to maybe just put your head down and wait for the storm to pass. But this man, Reverend Jesse Lewis Jackson, inspires us to take a harder path.

[A]

So what is that? Is that just hubris of these three to overrule the grieving family on what they wanted?

[B]

I mean, of the three, I mean, I give Biden a little bit of a break there and that he looks like he just climbed out of a casket to make the speech. I have no idea if he has any idea what's going on.

[A]

He's clearly just reading whatever his team wrote for him.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, it's just, you know, that's not a positive situation for a million different reasons.

[A]

Wait, wait, before we move on from Biden, though, because I do need to add this addendum of his remarks here to your point. If I told you all earlier when I was a kid I had a

[B]

cleft palate or club foot, none of

[A]

you would have laughed. But it's okay to laugh at stuttering. I'm not being critical of you, but think about it. It's the one place where people think you're stupid. Oh, really?

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I'm a hell of a lot smarter

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than most of you.

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Broke in the side.

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He tried to ad lib. He wound up calling the black crowd dumb and also said that they were making fun of his stutter, which is not right, and embarrassed himself once again. When he ad libs stu, he was back to his normal self. And that's not a good thing.

[B]

No, no, not at all. And I have this strange thing about politics. I mean, go back to the Paul Wellstone, this is a million years ago, but the Democrats lost a major election, a big Senate election, kind of by doing the same thing back in the day where they came out and kind of used it as a party in a political rally at a funeral. Separate from even the use of politics here. Can we at least agree that when you're at a funeral, it's not about you, it's about the person who died and

[A]

that should be clear.

[B]

Right. This is supposed to be a celebration of their lives now, not supposed a remembrance of their lives. Not supposed to be something where you come out and talk about your stutter like that's just making their life about you. Yeah, just have a little bit of be humble a little bit and maybe talk about the things you admired about them solely. And you might say, well, wait a minute, where's the time where I get to talk about my cleft palate potential back in the day? This is like there's just not an opening for it.

[A]

That's an age old question. When going to a funeral and making remarks, where do I get the dunk

[B]

around my cleft alley?

[A]

Or in Kamala Harris's case, clearly this is like the 2028 kickoff. She's like, yeah, if you could drop some confetti after I finish, that'd be terrific. Some balloon drop perhaps that would really help me out here. Was Jesse Jackson Jr. Reacting to the naked self promotion of

[B]

these three yesterday, I listened for several hours of three United States presidents who do not know Jesse Jackson. He maintained a tense relationship with the political order. Not because the presidents were white or black, but the demands of our message, the demands of speaking for the least of these, those who were disinherited, the damned, the dispossessed, the disrespected, demanded not Democratic or Republican solutions, but demanded a consistent prophetic voice that at no point in time ever sold us out as a people. And it speaks volumes about who the Reverend Jesse Jackson was. Wow.

[A]

I mean that's pretty bold. They all showed up and they all spoke at the funeral and yet the son was not having it still.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I love the comments and of course I don't know, I've been to funerals, I've never been to one that's anything like what Democratic politicians always do. So I don't understand how any of this works. I mean, I don't even understand like why, why are they even Speaking why? I mean, I assume Barack Obama to just walk up on stage and take the mic. What's the process that he's even getting the gig? Because I guess there is some weird thing that we do as human beings to try to make ourselves in our. You know, as we remember someone's life, we try to make ourselves important by highlighting the people that we knew around them. I don't know. Maybe that's what they're doing. Hey, he knew all these presidents, and they'll speak nicely of him. So that will, I guess, improve his standing. I mean, I would assume as a reverend, that's probably not how he looked at the world. Or at least not how he tried to look at the world. You know, I didn't know the guy. You make a point, and I've heard this from others, that he was a pretty nice guy and a guy who was positive to deal with. And I wouldn't have enjoyed him, I don't think, as president of the United States. But that's neither here nor there. I would assume he would aim to be known for things bigger than that. And yet every Democratic politician who died has this same moment. And every time people are critical of it, even people who are members of the family, and over and over again, they make it about them and the things they think are important that week. Gosh, it's just. It's so selfish and just.

[A]

It is. It's so disrespectful. There was also some. There were some famous people there, including former NBA player Isaiah Thomas. This is what he had to say. Stop. 15. I also like to

[B]

honor the five presidents who are sitting here today. President Harris,

[A]

President Clinton, President Bill Clinton,

[B]

First Lady Jill Biden, President Biden, and Chicago's own south side President Barack Obama.

[A]

Okay, so he included Hillary and Kamala in there. Hillary Clinton laughed it off. She knew it was a joke. Kamala Harris is reacting like she actually was president. Finally, I've been acknowledged. Amazing to me, right? Like, first of all, that really is an inappropriate thing to do for him. Like, you know full well that two of those were not president of the United States. It's not a label you can just throw around. Loosey goosey. And for Kamala Harris to do anything other than laugh hysterically is, again, just shows how fragile her ego is still.

[B]

Yeah, no, it's true. But this is the sort of fantasy world they dream of, right? This is what they believed was accurate. I mean, I think when you look back at a lot of their commentary at the time, speaking of people on the left, they were saying elections had been stolen and taken away from those who rightfully held those offices and won those elections. That is the kind of fantasy world they live in. They think that this is real, and they think anything that anything to do with Donald Trump is illegitimate. I mean, Hillary Clinton herself has used the word illegitimate how many times?

[A]

Oh, yeah, well, that was another thing Bill Maher tried to tell me wasn't true, and it was true. And he learned about it on the Megyn Kelly show because, you know. Yeah, to your point, some live in this bubble. All right, I only have a short time left, but I wanted to get this in before we go. Speaking of petty and inappropriate, President Obama has announced the date for the opening of his absolutely ugly, awful presidential center, his library. This is Ms. Now on Saturday. Listen to this. It's Valerie Jarrett, who is his top emissary and remains so Saad 18.

[B]

And so I'm just wondering, Valerie, is President Trump invited?

[A]

Well, as I said, this is really a chance for us to celebrate with the people who joined President Obama on this journey, the ordinary people who did the extraordinary things. So, no.

[B]

But I will say, I hasten to

[A]

add that after we open to the public, should President Trump want to come and tour the center, President Obama would

[B]

be delighted for him to do so. That was a very heavy no, Valerie.

[A]

Okay. So petty to the end. Even well out of office, opening his presidential library. The goal is always to have former presidents or current presidents. Presidents who followed us. You come to the opening of your library, it's like when you throw a book party, trying to get names there so you can call attention to your new thing. His thing is the ugliest building anybody's ever seen. I mean, it looks like an enormous, like, steel, like, recycling receptacle with the weird words on the side of it. And literally nobody will look at this thing, which is supposed to be like 300 million and wound up being almost a billion dollars. It was like, in the 800 million range. Nobody would look at this and say, this is attractive, or should or should stand as a fetid contribution to American architecture.

[B]

Unless you're trying to incinerate trash in North Korea. I think most people agree with you.

[A]

I mean, President Trump's gonna be thrilled he's not invited. Like, he would. I mean, he wouldn't have gone anyway, but just like, the absence of ceremony, right? Like, fuck you. You're not coming. Get out. I mean, that's the same reason Barack Obama attacked him. He is partisan, too. His core. And why it's so galling for some of us to hear him described as not by his supporters to this day like he was sort of a post partisan president.

[B]

Oh, it's so irritating. I'm always told he's such a great orator as well. And I don't know, not all that impressed by it. He just tried to hide it. We talked about Mamdani earlier. A very similar thing is happening there where if you try to hide it and you act like you're above it and say we don't go low, we go high over and over and over again, eventually people start to believe it. That was more of a core tenet of the of the entire operation during the Obama years. And I think it's continuing with a lot of Democrats on the left. Just some of them blurted out a little bit more often than Barack Obama does.

[A]

Well, President Trump won't be able to attend because he's having the opening on Juneteenth, which is a alleged holiday that most of us don't celebrate because it's made up and it's ridiculous. So I don't, I don't think President Trump has the time for this. In any event, Stuberge year, you don't have the time either now with not one but two pots predictable and Stu and Dave do America and we look forward to listening to you at both. Thanks for coming on.

[B]

Megan, thanks so much. Appreciate it.

[A]

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