The Megyn Kelly Show | Ep. 1262

Episode Date: February 27, 2026
Main Theme:
A provocative deep-dive into the real connections between Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein as new deposition testimony and Justice Department files come to light, as well as analysis of the latest developments in the Nancy Guthrie disappearance case, and a lengthy exposé on the secret double-life and criminal downfall of leading legal figure Tom Goldstein.

Episode Overview

Megyn Kelly anchors a wide-ranging episode focused on elite double lives, elite impunity, and the continuing fight for accountability. The main discussions include:

• Bill and Hillary Clinton's depositions on their Epstein ties, targeting Bill's documented longstanding relationship with Epstein.
• New events and records in the Nancy Guthrie missing persons case, featuring expert analysis of fresh video evidence.
• A blistering account of Tom Goldstein’s unprecedented fall from grace, after the prominent Supreme Court lawyer is convicted of tax fraud, mortgage fraud, and living a secret life marked by gambling and sugar-daddy relationships.
• Closing thoughts on international rumblings (Cuba, Iran), New York criminal justice, and a takedown of Megan Rapinoe for political hypocrisy.

Section 1: Bill Clinton’s TRUE Epstein Ties Unpacked

Key Discussion Points

• Bill and Hillary Clinton Testify

  • Hillary Clinton testified that she “never met Jeffrey Epstein” and had “no connection or communication” with him, but admits knowing Ghislaine Maxwell "casually."
    Quote, Hillary Clinton (paraphrased via Megyn Kelly):

    "I never met Jeffrey Epstein. Never had any connection or communication with him. I knew Ghislaine Maxwell casually as an acquaintance..." (12:00)

  • Bill Clinton, however, is pressed under oath about extensive ties to Epstein:
    • Multiple trips on Epstein’s private jet
    • Socializing with Epstein post-presidency (“in the man’s hot tub with all these women”)
    • Documented White House visits by Epstein during the 1990s (at least 17 times reported)

• Megyn’s Reaction to Their Demeanor

  • Strong skepticism regarding both Clintons’ candor, especially Hillary’s denials and Bill’s attempts to cast himself as a champion for Epstein’s victims.

    "You destroyed [victims’ credibility…], you organized massive PR campaigns to undermine their credibility. Woman after woman after woman who we now know were telling the truth..." (11:30) "No one believes we’re gonna get the straight skinny from him at all. But I’m glad they’re putting him through the exercise. Let’s get him on the record." (13:40)

• Mike Benz: Patterns of Elite Protection

  • Epstein cultivated ties to former and soon-to-be-former officials (e.g., Clinton, Ehud Barak, Bill Burns, Kathy Rummler).
  • Clinton-era government facilitated and even rented exclusive real estate to Epstein (e.g., State Department’s five-story NYC mansion—seized from Iran and leased to Epstein).
  • Epstein's donor network likely seeded the Clinton Foundation.

• Missing DOJ Files and Intelligence Angle

  • Mysterious three-year blackout in DOJ’s Epstein files (1999-2001), precisely when Clinton was finishing his presidency—raises questions about deliberate gaps and intelligence ties.

    "We appear to have about half of the total. There’s a very strange gap—mid-1999 to 2000. Very difficult thing to explain." (22:00)

Notable Quotes

• Mike Benz (on Clinton and Epstein):

  "It’s two peas in a pod. Like attracts like, I suppose..." (17:29)

• Megyn Kelly (on elite facades):

  "[...] Who else out there is leading this respectable life?... And then you find out it's all a facade." (05:13)

• Megyn Kelly (calling for more transparency):

  "We need the CIA and State Department side of this equation... National security predicates for blocking disclosures have allowed the Deep State to get out of jail free." (50:45)

Timestamps of Interest

• 05:13 — Megyn Kelly on elite double lives
• 11:30 — On the Clinton war room against accusers
• 17:29 — Mike Benz on Clinton-Epstein nexus
• 22:00 — Discussion of missing DOJ Epstein files
• 39:38 — Why the current declassification bill avoided CIA/State Department records

Section 2: Epstein, Intelligence, and the Deep State

Key Insights

• Intelligence Protection Allegations
  • Origins of Epstein's connections to intelligence are discussed at length; DOJ and State files likely contain bombshells, but remain partially sealed.
  • Bill Barr—who as AG presided over Epstein’s prison death—had earlier CIA ties and a history of covering up intelligence scandals, underscoring the symbiosis between DOJ and US intelligence.

    "There is a relationship between the CIA and the Justice Department that I think most American people have no vision into." (48:04)

• Alex Acosta’s "Intelligence" Comments
  • Acosta, who engineered Epstein’s 2008 plea deal, told Trump’s transition team he was told to "back off, Epstein belongs to intelligence," yet later denied such knowledge under oath.
• Legacy of Elite Immunity
  • The pattern—elites with shadowy intelligence or financial functions receive get-out-of-jail-free cards, as illustrated by the sweetheart non-prosecution deals and piecemeal access for investigators.

Notable Quotes

• Mike Benz:

  "You don’t go to the White House 17 times unless you’re consulting with the White House in some fashion." (33:50)

Section 3: The Nancy Guthrie Case – New Video & Expert Reactions

Key Discussion Points

• Breaking Down New Ring Camera Footage

  • Newly released footage shows a vehicle of interest at a crucial time (~2:36am), coinciding with Nancy Guthrie’s phone disconnecting from her pacemaker—but the FBI is reportedly dismissing the video as a "dead end."
  • Neighbors express skepticism: Law enforcement hadn’t canvassed their area, despite clear proximity and egress relevance.

• Panel Analysis

  • Jim Fitzgerald (FBI profiler): Emphasizes the need to publicly ask every driver in the area to come forward, even if they’ve done nothing suspicious—suggests traditional outreach can narrow suspects.
  • Maureen O’Connell (FBI): Questions why the family’s car (Annie Guthrie’s) is still held as evidence after three weeks, suggesting it may hold significant, yet undisclosed, value to the investigation.

• Media & Family Dynamics

  • Megyn and the panel dissect Savannah Guthrie’s emotional video appeals, theorizing their effectiveness and coordination with law enforcement.

    "You got me. You wanted to hurt me, you hurt me... I surrender." – Maureen O’Connell on Savannah Guthrie’s messaging (66:27)

  • Speculation on sheriff’s motives—has he really focused on a family member and is keeping messaging intentionally inconsistent to maintain their trust and preserve the investigation’s integrity?

Notable Quotes

• Jim Fitzgerald:

  "This is the proverbial fork in the road for this person. If the money isn’t the issue, then perhaps this was for a highly personal reason." (69:12)

• Megyn Kelly:

  "The urgency... [is] missing in this case. The volunteers, the family, have not been out there searching— everyone’s gone virtual." (85:59)

Timestamps of Interest

• 56:09 — How reward can be claimed anonymously
• 66:27 — On the psychology of Savannah Guthrie’s public appeals
• 83:01 — The family car as evidence and implications for the investigation

Section 4: Exposé – The Rise and Catastrophic Fall of Tom Goldstein

Key Discussion Points

• Who Is Tom Goldstein?
  • Once considered the supreme insider’s insider at the US Supreme Court: founder of SCOTUSblog, frequent oral advocate, and author of landmark legal briefs.
• His Secret Double Life
  • Lived large as a high-stakes poker gambler (winning and losing millions), kept a harem of sugar-baby arrangements, and constructed a persona at odds with his “dweeby” lawyer image.
  • Stole millions from his law firm, defrauded his wife, investors, the IRS (tax fraud), and mortgage lenders by hiding massive debts and undeclared winnings.

    "He was leading a whole double life... with Bentleys, Ferraris, prostitutes... He would fly in and argue a Supreme Court case and then go gamble millions the next day." (115:03)

• Downfall
  • Refused plea deal (would have sent him to prison for nearly five years), lost at trial (convicted on 12 of 16 counts) after a damning confession of his misconduct (in an ill-advised interview with Jeffrey Toobin).
  • Goldstein denied being a gambling addict, attributed his fraud to being a “big believer in taking risks,” and "not placing particular value on money."
• Megyn Kelly’s Commentary
  • Scathing judgment about Goldstein’s hypocrisy, sociopathic risk-taking, and utter disregard for those who trusted him:

    "You defrauded your wife in two different ways. You’re stealing from the government, which means you and me and all the taxpayers... F this guy who thinks just because he won at a poker table, he doesn’t have to declare it." (121:39)

Notable Quotes

• Jeffrey Toobin’s observation:

  "Goldstein promptly lost $9 million playing ring games and realized they were not for him. He liked the heads up contests..." (paraphrased from 122:00+)

• Megyn Kelly:

  "Tom Goldstein, you are a loser in gambling and in life. You did not have a net profit... You defrauded your friends, your law partners... Screw you." (approx. 124:40)

Timestamps of Interest

• 114:55 — Megyn's on-air interaction with Goldstein in 2010
• 115:03 – onwards: Exposé on Goldstein’s gambling, double life, and conviction
• 121:39 — Megyn’s unsparing verdict on Goldstein as a person

Section 5: Closing Segments & Miscellany

Political and Cultural Commentary

• International:
  • Brief remarks on Cuba’s "friendly" conversations with the US and speculation on potential US military action in Iran.

    "Maybe we’ll have a friendly takeover of Cuba..." (93:53)

• NYC Crime and Legal System:
  • Critique of NYC Mayor and DA for undercharging assailant of police officers (“packed snow with ice and rocks”).

    "This will probably be pled out to a nothing burger, too. So it’s working. Their little plan is working perfectly." (103:03)

• Megan Rapinoe:
  • Megyn Kelly denounces Rapinoe’s attacks on the Men’s Olympic Hockey Team for accepting congratulations from President Trump, calling it hateful, hypocritical, and “rabid partisanship.”

Memorable/Notable Quotes

• Megyn Kelly (on elites):

  “We are just sick and tired of these so-called elites getting away with this shit when we all know we’d go to jail if we did it. So just desserts for him.” (126:40; on Goldstein, referencing Epstein too)

• Maureen O’Connell (on Savannah Guthrie’s plea):

  “She’s also saying, you got me. ... I am broken. My family is broken. Can we end this now? I’m willing to pay you my hard-earned money to end this now.” (66:27)

• Mike Benz (on Epstein’s CIA ties):

  “There’s a lot of ways that you can intimate that someone ‘belongs to intelligence’ to a prosecutor without showing them the [official] file...” (46:23)

• Jim Fitzgerald (profiling the abductor):

  “If the money isn’t the issue here, then perhaps this is for a whole reason that’s highly personal. ... Revenge.” (69:12)

Conclusion / Takeaways

• On Clinton-Epstein: Despite blanket denials, the documented links between Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein (flight logs, social events, shared circles) are extensive, with mounting evidence that the current official record is incomplete and sanitized, and that intelligence ties may provide "national security" cover.
• On Nancy Guthrie: The investigation remains tortured by messaging inconsistencies, surprising evidentiary decisions (family car), and the chilling sense of dead-ends and potential family complications, while the emotional appeals continue to humanize the ongoing trauma.
• On Elite Impunity (Goldstein): The legal system sometimes does hold elites accountable—as Goldstein’s conviction underscores—but only after years of living with impunity, enabled by networks of trust, secrecy, and, often, official indulgence.
• On Broader Institutional Trust: Whether it’s the Clintons, DOJ/FBI, or NYC officials, the overriding theme is skepticism about institutions’ willingness or ability to police their own.

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