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Dems Fight Over Possible Platner Swap, Farage Resigns, Charlie Kirk Case DNA Reveal: AM Update 7/8
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Democratic socialists gain momentum in deep-blue primaries, as the left begins a fight over possible new candidates to take the place of Graham Platner. Nigel Farage resigns from Parliament and immediately launches a campaign to win back the same seat as he fights allegations involving millions of dollars in undisclosed financial support. Prosecutors reveal that Lance Twiggs’ DNA was found along with Tyler Robinson’s on a screwdriver and the towel wrapped around the suspected weapon used to murder Charlie Kirk. Prince Harry loses every claim in another major case against the British press and could now be left with a share of a massive legal bill. Cozy Earth: Visit https://www.CozyEarth.com & Use code MEGYN for up to 20% off Supersure Insurance: Upgrade your business insurance to a year-round SuperAgency at https://Supersure.com/Megyn
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Emily Jasinsky
Good morning everyone. I'm Emily jasinsky, host of Afterparty and the Megyn Kelly wrap up show on SiriusXM channel 111. It's Wednesday, July 8, 2026 and this is your AM update. Democratic Socialists gaining ground in blue state primaries as the party confronts a much tougher test in the swing races that will decide the midterms.
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Nigel Farage
Let me be absolutely clear. I have done nothing wrong. I have not broken the law in any way at all.
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Emily Jasinsky
Nigel Farage pushing back against financial allegations but also resigning his seat.
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Forensic Expert
Item 8 sub 1 was interpreted as originating from two individuals, one of whom is twigs.
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Emily Jasinsky
A major DNA revelation in the Charlie Kirk murder case as prosecutors reveal Tyler Robinson's so called transgender lover and roommate was also linked to key evidence that recovered during the investigation. And Prince Harry loses another major battle against the British press and now faces a potentially massive legal bill. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
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Emily Jasinsky
Some Democrats heading into the midterms increasingly convinced that the path back to power requires candidates who are angrier, more confrontational and considerably further to the left. A string of recent primary victories giving the party's democratic socialist wing new momentum while raising a far more consequential can the movement that is thriving in some of America's bluest districts actually win the competitive races that will determine control of Congress and key state governments? New York City's socialist mayor Zoram Mamdani, in a recent interview with ABC News, pointing to the success of several congressional candidates he endorsed as evidence voters are embracing the movement's message.
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Zoram Mamdani
When we're talking about these incredible congressional candidates, they won their races, and they won their races with a vision of what politics should be and one that actually speaks to working people. And for a lot of people who ask themselves what does democratic socialism mean? And you can tell them the answer at a theoretical level, it's the choice to extend democracy from the ballot box the rest of their lives.
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Emily Jasinsky
Those candidates, however, were running in heavily Democratic districts where winning the primary essentially guarantees victory in November. The real test coming in the races where Democrats still have to win over the middle. In Wisconsin Democratic socialist state Representative Francesca Hong competing for the Democrat nomination for governor, arguing that an unapologetically progressive economic agenda can succeed statewide. The New York Times reporting Hong's growing strength alarming more moderate Democrats who fear a candidate embraced by the socialist left may struggle to capture the political middle in one of the country's most closely divided states. Hong making opposition to new data centers a centerpiece of her campaign, an issue attracting voters across traditional party lines. Her past positions, however, are fueling concerns about whether that appeal can survive a statewide general election. Hong previously called for defunding and eventually abolishing the police comments that have resurfaced as moderate Democrats question whether her brand of politics can win enough voters in the middle. Meanwhile, Democrats are already fighting over who should replace Senate nominee Graham Platner, even before he has agreed to leave the race. Platner, a far left progressive, now facing calls to withdraw after a former girlfriend accused him of sexual assault, an allegation he categorically denies. Democrats are demanding he withdraw before a July 13 deadline that could allow the party to replace him on the ballot. The Times reporting the top Democrat super PAC now threatening to redirect $24 million in Maine advertising to other states if Platinum remains in the race. Now many on the left insisting that party leaders cannot simply erase the result of a primary in which voters rejected the more establishment option and selected Platner. Independent journalist Glenn Greenwald posting to X it would be anti Democratic in the extreme to nominate some establishment hack with Democrat governor Janet Mills. Politics rather than the agenda. Maine voters ratified when nominating Platner the fight in Maine, adding to a broader democratic struggle over whether the party's progressive energy can translate beyond safe blue territory. President Trump now working to make that question central to the midterms, repeatedly tying the Democratic Party's socialist wing to communism
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Donald Trump
here, several recent speeches Communism is very easy to sell. It destroys everything, but it's very easy. I mean, the problem is after two or three years, the country is a disaster area. The country fails. They always do. We're Social Democrats. They say they're not social, they're communists. They want to destroy our country. We're not going to let that happen. Communism is the enemy of free people everywhere, everywhere in the world. I think it's the biggest threat to our nation there is, maybe since our founding. That includes World War I, World War II, September 11th. It includes the Pearl harbor attack.
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Emily Jasinsky
Reform UK leader Nigel Farage resigning from Britain's Parliament only to immediately announce he will run for the same seat again, asking voters to settle the growing controversy surrounding millions of dollars in financial support he received before taking office. Farage, one of the principal architects of Brexit, spending more than two decades in the European Parliament before finally winning his seat in Britain's House of Commons in 2024. His Anti Mass Immigration Reform UK party has led or placed near the top of British opinion polling for much of the past year. Farage stepping down as the member of Parliament representing Clacton yesterday, triggering a special election known in Britain as a by election. The dramatic political gamble coming as Farage faces increasing scrutiny over gifts and other financial benefits that critics argue should have been disclosed. Parliament's standards commissioner, roughly the British equivalent of a congressional ethics watchdog, is investigating whether Farage improperly failed to declare a 5 million pound gift worth roughly $6.7 million from cryptocurrency billionaire Christopher Harborne. Farage receiving the money in early 2024 when he was not serving in any elected office, making him, as he argues, a private citizen when he accepted the gift. Farage describing the money as an unconditional personal gift, insisting it had nothing to do with his subsequent candidacy or political work and did not violate any disclosure rules. The controversy expanding over the weekend, the Times reporting that Farage also received extensive support from longtime political ally George Cottrill Cottrell, previously serving eight months in an American prison after pleading guilty to wire fraud. Farage addressing the investigations and his political future yesterday in a brief speech.
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Nigel Farage
It seems to me that the establishment have now decided that they can't beat us fairly, so they've chosen to use foul means. Let me be absolutely clear, after the furore and the media pile on. Well, not just the media, the other political parties too. Let me be absolutely clear. I have done nothing wrong. I have not broken the law in any way at all. I have not misused public money. And, you know, for the first two years of being an mp, my personal MP expenses are zero. Not, of course, that you'll read about that in mainstream media. And yes, of course, Parliament has its rules about how members ought to behave, and I believe I've absolutely obeyed those rules and done so under getting good legal advice.
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Emily Jasinsky
Farage arguing the financial assistance now under examination was necessary because of persistent threats against him and his family.
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Nigel Farage
For over 20 years now, I have been subject to constant demonization by the press and I am the most physically and verbally attacked public figure or politician of modern times. Repeatedly over the years, I asked the Home Secretary for help. I was rejected again and again. And in that period when I wasn't in elected politics, between 2021 and and 2024, I ran up personally very, very substantial bills to make sure that I was safe when I became an mp. Parliament said, yes, we will help you with security. But almost unbelievably, just a couple of days after the murder of Charlie Kirk, 70% of that security funding was withdrawn. I am going to need security for the rest of my life and I cannot even tell you how grateful I am to Christopher Harborne, because now I will never, ever need to worry about whether I've got the resource.
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Emily Jasinsky
Farage also directing his anger at Britain's news media, accusing the Times of London of endangering his family while investigating his finances and property holdings. Farage triggering a special election to fill his now vacant seat. The move raising an obvious procedural question. What happens to the investigations if Farage leaves Parliament, then wins the same seat back? British outlet LBC explaining how that could play out.
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British Political Commentator
It's jolly, technical and complicated, but as I understand it, once he ceases to be an mp, the parliamentary investigation into him also ceases and therefore he comes back re elected as an MP and would not expect to face the same kind of test by the parliamentary authorities that he's facing now. I don't think that, to be honest, is at the center of this. It's part of it, I'm quite sure. I think sometimes we have to take people at their word. I think he's genuinely, absolutely livid about what happened to his daughter.
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Emily Jasinsky
Coming up, a new major DNA revelation in the Charlie Kirk murder case comes out at the preliminary hearing. And Prince Harry dealt a sweeping courtroom defeat in his war against the British press with a bill for the failed case. Still to come,
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Emily Jasinsky
Tyler Robinson, the man accused of assassinating Charlie Kirk last September, back in a Utah county courtroom yesterday for day two of his preliminary hearing. Prosecutors continuing their effort to persuade Judge Tony Graf they have enough evidence to take Robinson to trial on seven charges, including aggravated murder. The hearing producing a significant new revelation involving Robinson's so called trans furry lover and roommate Lance Twiggs. Prosecutors revealing that Twiggs DNA was found along with Robinson's on both a screwdriver recovered during the investigation and the towel wrapped around the suspected murder weapon. Twiggs lived with Robinson and was reportedly romantically involved with him at the time of Charlie Kirk's murder, later turning over messages and other evidence to investigators as he began cooperating with authorities. Prosecutors maintain that Robinson acted alone and Twiggs has not been charged in connection with the killing. Authorities granted Twiggs limited immunity for a statement he gave investigators in April, meaning that statement cannot be used against him in any future prosecution. That statement will be played this week during the hearing. The DNA findings surfacing as Jennifer Famiana, a sergeant who worked with Utah's State Bureau of Investigation at the time of the shooting, walked the court through portions of an FBI forensic report.
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Forensic Expert
Yes. Male DNA was obtained from item 7 1. Item 7, sub 1 was interpreted as originating from two individuals, one of whom is twigs. The DNA results from item 7, sub 1 are 1.7 octillion times more likely if Twigs and T. Robinson are contributors than if Twigs and an unknown unrelated person are contributors.
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Courtroom Expert
Thank you. Let's Skip down to item 8 1. Do you see that bolded and underlined line there?
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Emily Jasinsky
Yes.
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Courtroom Expert
And this is relating to swabs of the handle area of the screwdriver, is that right?
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Emily Jasinsky
Yes.
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Courtroom Expert
Will you read those same two paragraphs there? Male DNA ending with contributors.
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Forensic Expert
Male DNA was obtained from item 8, sub 1. Item 8, sub 1 was interpreted as originating from two individuals, one of whom is twigs. The DNA results from item 8, sub 1 are 30 quintillion times more likely if Twigs and T. Robinson are contributors than if Twigs and an unknown unrelated person are contributors.
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Emily Jasinsky
A quieter moment unfolding inside the courtroom with Charlie's widow, Erica Kirk once again attending the hearing. The Associated Press reporting that Danae Branch, who had lined up with friends at midnight to secure one of the limited public seats, began tearing up during the proceedings. Erica reportedly reaching over and offering her a tissue. Branch later telling the ap, quote, she didn't know if I was a friend or not. She showed love. Branch saying she had watched Erica cry at times and fidget with her bracelet and found herself becoming emotional as she watched Kirk's widow absorb another difficult day of testimony. Prince Harry suffering a major defeat in his years long crusade against the British press. A judge dismissing every claim brought by Harry and six other prominent figures against Associated Newspapers, the publisher of the Daily Mail and Mail on Sunday. The group accusing the company of gathering private information through illegal methods, including phone hacking, intercepted voicemails and investigators allegedly using deception to obtain confidential records. The publisher denying the accusations, maintaining its reporters relied on legitimate sources. For Harry, the verdict brings a bruising conclusion to the last major case in a legal campaign he launched against several British newspaper groups beginning in 2019. The Telegraph's deputy royal editor, Victoria Ward, explaining why Harry entered this case expecting another victory.
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Victoria Ward
Well, there's a huge amount at stake here because for Prince Harry himself, it was the culmination of a seven year legal fight against the tabloid press, obviously. He won against Mirror Group newspapers, he won against Newsgroup newspapers. He got a settlement on the eve of trial with, with that one in January 2025. This was his last big hurrah in this moral crusade that he's, he launched in 2019 and he had expected to win. His claim comprised 14 articles that were published between 2001 and 2013. He had made it clear that he only needed one victory in that raft of stories to show that he'd proved that Associated Newspapers had been acting unlawfully and that would have been cast as a victory.
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Emily Jasinsky
The judge concluding Harry failed to prove unlawful conduct in a single one of those 14 stories. He brought the case alongside Elton John and his husband David Furnish, actresses Elizabeth Hurley and Sadie Frost, former lawmaker Simon Hughes and Baroness Doreen Lawrence. The central problem was not proving the stories contained private information. It was proving the Daily Mail obtained that information illegally. Ward, pointing to one example that hurt his case.
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Victoria Ward
He had claimed that various pieces of private information that had found its way into the newspapers could only have been obtained through hacking or other unlawful activity. But the journalists involved made it very clear that they were picking up bits and pieces of this information from legitimate sources, from Harry's friends, from his associates, from his wider social network. And they had some examples of how that had happened. We saw these Mr. Mischief emails that had been sent between Prince Harry and Mail on Sunday, journalist Charlotte Griffiths, which showed the level of. They were kind of on intimate terms, they obviously knew each other very well. It was flirtatious, yes. So that seemed to go kind of go against what Harry was trying to claim, that he didn't fraternize with journalists at all.
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Emily Jasinsky
Journalist Tim Stanley, reading from the decision,
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Tim Stanley
Mr. Justice Nicklin said the allegations are serious and required more convincing evidence before they could be said to be proven. But the claimants had failed to prove allegations of unlawful information gathering, rejecting the argument that simply because they could not demonstrate where the information came from does not mean that it was gathered illegally. He concluded, adding that as with each of the claimants, Prince Harry has limited evidence to give on the contentious matters in disputes. In other words, he's not saying Harry was lying, he's not saying that the evidence he brought was false, but rather it's not sufficient.
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Emily Jasinsky
Associated Newspapers celebrating the ruling in a statement, quote, the reputations of our decent and hard working journalists were terribly impugned and today they have been exonerated. Harry and another member of the lawsuit responding with fury, calling the decision a quote, complete and obvious whitewash. Harry is already in the UK this week for a series of charity appearances. The legal fight is not quite over. Attention now turning to the enormous cost of the case and how much of that bill could fall on Harry and the other claimants. The Telegraph's Tim Stanley asking Deputy Royal Editor Victoria Ward who could be left paying the enormous legal bill.
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Tim Stanley
Let's talk about the costs of this trial. Very, very expensive. The figure that I have in front of me is an estimated 50 million pounds. Who is going to pay that?
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Victoria Ward
Well, it now looks like the amount, then the bulk of the costs are going to land with the claimants.
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Tim Stanley
Right.
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Victoria Ward
Which is absolutely terrifying, I imagine, for all seven of them.
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Tim Stanley
Well, especially for poor Simon Hughes. I can't imagine that the former lipped MMP has got that kind of cash.
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Victoria Ward
They all had some kind of special insurance that covered them to a certain extent, but whether it goes to this extent, we're yet to find out. There's a cost hearing that's already been scheduled for July 29th and 30th where these issues are going to be thrashed out. But at a hearing, a cost hearing last year, the judge specifically warned that this case could spiral out of control and he expressed some concern about the seven claimants and wanted to know whether they fully understood the risks because he was concerned they weren't fully abreast of exactly the financial cost and the implications if they lost.
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Emily Jasinsky
Sounds like Prince Harry is going to need another Netflix deal. That'll do it. For your AM update, I'm Emily Jaszynski, host of After Party. Catch the Megyn Kelly show live on SiriusXM's the Megyn Kelly Channel 111 at noon east on YouTube.com Megyn Kelly and all podcast platforms.
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