The Megyn Kelly Show: Erika Kirk on Continuing Charlie's Mission, Marriage Advice, and Power of Prayer, Plus Walter Kirn on UFOs and TDS

Episode 1200 | November 24, 2025 | SiriusXM

Episode Overview

In this emotionally charged and wide-ranging episode, Megyn Kelly convenes a live audience tour stop for a heartfelt tribute to Charlie Kirk with his widow, Erika Kirk, discussing loss, faith, family, and carrying forward Turning Point USA's mission. The episode also features celebrated author and journalist Walter Kirn, who weighs in on the media, culture wars, and UFO revelations. Throughout, themes of courage, spiritual revival, the power of prayer, and the importance of truth and integrity are explored with honesty, depth, and humor.

Key Segments and Insights

1. Opening Reflections & Honoring Charlie Kirk’s Legacy

[00:44 – 06:10] Megyn Kelly

• Megyn gives a moving reflection on Charlie Kirk's assassination, the decision to continue the tour, and the courage it takes to be a conservative today.
  • “Just to declare yourself a conservative in this environment is actually an act of courage.” [05:34]
• She highlights the need to unify around shared values, honoring Charlie by continuing his work, and supporting those at Turning Point USA—especially Erika Kirk.
• Megyn urges the audience to show support for Erika and emphasizes that carrying on is itself a message to those who seek to silence conservative voices.

2. Live Q&A – Politics, Culture, Personal Responsibility

[06:10 – 22:11] Multiple Speakers

• Audience members ask about conservative activism, government corruption, Trump’s controversial meetings, apathy among youth, and the difference between “America First” and isolationism.
• Megyn’s signature candor shines here, especially on the need for both local and national engagement and the dangers of apathy:
  • “We are just as far left on the Upper West Side of Manhattan as Canada…We kind of started to organize and started to make a difference in these woke schools. And you guys can start that, too. There really is power in numbers.” [10:19]
• Also discussed: challenges for conservatives in corporate America, immigration anxieties, and government overreach.

Memorable Moment:

• “Non Muslims need to have a lot more babies. That’s just true.” – Megyn Kelly [18:31]

3. Walter Kirn Interview: From Normie Liberal to Truth-Teller

[29:07 – 48:03] Megyn Kelly & Walter Kirn

Walter’s Political and Career Journey

• Kirn shares his transformation from a New Republic/Spy Magazine liberal insider to an independent truth-teller in the Trump era.
• The tipping point: rejecting Russiagate for lack of evidence, refusing to sacrifice integrity.
  • “I had spent my life not getting rich, but building up my integrity. And I was not willing to sacrifice it over what I knew to be a lie.” – Walter Kirn [33:47]

Media & the Left’s Ideological Shift

• Critiques the cultural orthodoxy, lack of diversity of thought, and media’s decline.
  • “Liberals used to love ideas... now they've become a monolithic, uniform, dictatorial party which wants to police language, police pictures, police every bit of our culture.” – Walter Kirn [37:22]
• Bemoans the “new puritanism” of the woke Left.

UFOs, Disclosure, and Trump

• Walter discusses the sudden mainstream attention to UFOs (now UAPs) and shares insights from friend/source Dave Grusch.
  • “I am convinced that this isn’t a psyop... I think that very rarely, but somewhat commonly over the years going back through human history, we have been visited by beings of other types. It’s a big universe, one we barely understand.” – Walter Kirn [42:44]
• Predicts greater disclosure in the near future and speculates on Trump’s involvement in publicizing any revelations.
  • “I expect him to be the president who tells us what we haven’t heard.” – Walter Kirn [44:17]
• Concludes: society can handle the truth; it won't break us.

4. Erika Kirk: Faith, Marriage, Grief, and Leading Turning Point USA

[55:05 – 121:33] Megyn Kelly & Erika Kirk

Life After Loss, Faith, and Community

• Erika shares candidly about navigating the “firsts” after Charlie’s assassination, coping through faith, and the support from the Turning Point “family” Charlie built.
  • “I’m a daughter to the king, to the most high. That’s the most important title, if you will.” – Erika Kirk [59:42]
• Details growing up with a strong single mother, Miss Arizona background, and career in New York before meeting Charlie.
• On her relationship with Charlie, she describes their foundation in faith and intentionality in every aspect of life:
  • “We always lived as if it was the last day. That’s why Charlie’s speeches were so good, because he didn’t know if that was going to be his last speech.” [68:44]

On Premonitions, Threats, and Living Intentionally

• Erika discusses being aware of threats but not living in fear, trusting in God’s plan.
• She recounts spiritual “signs” from Charlie, particularly flickering lights, seen as reassurances of his continued presence.

Motherhood and Protecting Her Children

• Erika’s approach to shielding her children from online attention, the importance of a Christ-centric upbringing, and preparing them someday to confront the negativity directed toward their father.

Forgiveness, Anger, and God’s Plan

• On forgiving her husband’s alleged murderer:
  • “The enemy would love for me to be angry. He would love it. Because it would distract me from building what Charlie entrusted to me, raising our babies, Turning Point.” [102:31]
• Explains forgiveness as an act, not an emotion, emphasizing God’s justice.

Carrying on the Mission

• Erika describes Charlie’s focus on saving the “lost boys of the West,” and the organizational strength/succession plan he put in place:
  • “What I have built is will one day, if I’m not around, be vision led.” – as quoted from Charlie [59:42]
• Reaffirms Turning Point’s commitment to conservative values under her leadership.
  • “No, we are not becoming feminized at all. If anything, we’re being more emboldened and we will carry on my husband’s legacy in a way that no one could even have imagined.” [119:04]

5. Marriage and Dating Wisdom

[109:22 – 111:04]

• Erika advises young women:
  • “Stay away from hookup culture. Don’t just date to date. If a guy wants to take you to drinks instead of dinner, that’s a huge red flag.”
  • “Don’t introduce them to your family until you know without a shadow of a doubt that might be the man that you’re going to marry. And don’t treat your boyfriend like your husband.” [109:22]
• Megyn punctuates: “Don’t be a slut.” [111:04 – laughter and applause]

6. Charlie’s Posthumous Book & Spiritual Practice

[92:52 – 101:23]

• Erika reveals Charlie’s forthcoming book, Stop in the Name of God, focusing on the spiritual importance of rest and honoring the Sabbath.
  • Reads an excerpt highlighting rest as a spiritual practice.
  • Shares notes from Charlie’s personal journals, demonstrating his inner life and faith.

7. Turning Point and Political Impact: 2026 and Beyond

[111:10 – 119:39]

• Turning Point’s strategy remains focused on activism, grassroots outreach, and “unsexy” work like canvassing and voter mobilization.
• Erika credits the team Charlie assembled and makes clear the direction won't weaken or “go light.”
• Candid reflections on JD Vance, President Trump’s support, and the unique role Turning Point plays in youth and family engagement.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• “Just to declare yourself a conservative in this environment is actually an act of courage.” — Megyn Kelly [05:34]
• “I had spent my life not getting rich, but building up my integrity. And I was not willing to sacrifice it over what I knew to be a lie.” — Walter Kirn [33:47]
• “No, we are not becoming feminized at all. If anything, we’re being more emboldened and we will carry on my husband’s legacy in a way that no one could even have imagined.” — Erika Kirk [119:04]
• “The enemy would love for me to be angry…if I had that anger in my heart, that foothold from the enemy, he wouldn’t be able to use me.” — Erika Kirk [102:31]
• “Don’t introduce them to your family until you know without a shadow of a doubt that might be the man that you’re going to marry. And don’t treat your boyfriend like your husband.” — Erika Kirk [109:22]
• “I am convinced that this isn’t a psyop...we have been visited by beings of other types. It’s a big universe, one we barely understand.” — Walter Kirn [42:44]

Episode Flow & Tone

The episode moves seamlessly from somber tributes and faith-centered introspection to sharp political commentary and moments of laughter (especially in the live Q&A and running jokes about hair extensions and hugs). Megyn’s interviewer style is probing, personal, and unfiltered, particularly in her empathetic dialogue with Erika Kirk.

Conclusion & Call to Action

The show ends with gratitude for the audience and an earnest call for prayer:

• “Prayers would mean everything. Wisdom and discernment and protection and just pray for our country. Pray for our leaders.” — Erika Kirk [121:03]
• Megyn encourages listeners to support the new book, Stop in the Name of God, and affirms the enduring spirit of Charlie Kirk’s mission.

For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode delivers powerful insight into grief and faith, practical advice for marriage and activism, and nuanced discussion about truth in media, cultural war, and even the unexplained (UFOs). At heart, it’s about courage: to love, to lead, to forgive, and to stand for your values—no matter the cost.

Key Segments by Timestamp

• [00:44] Megyn’s opening reflection, tour context, honoring Charlie Kirk
• [06:10] Audience Q&A: activism, political questions
• [29:07] Walter Kirn interview: media, culture, UFOs
• [55:05] Erika Kirk joins: grief, faith, motherhood, Turning Point’s future
• [92:52] Charlie’s book and spiritual practice
• [109:22] Erika’s marriage advice for young women
• [111:10] Turning Point’s ongoing mission and politics
• [121:03] Call for prayer and closing

For more: Buy Charlie Kirk’s final book, and stay tuned for ongoing updates from Turning Point USA.