Feds Charge Charlotte Suspect, Biggest Jobs Revision Ever Exposes Real Biden Economy: AM Update 9/10

Summary

The Megyn Kelly Show

Episode Title: Feds Charge Charlotte Suspect, Biggest Jobs Revision Ever Exposes Real Biden Economy: AM Update 9/10
Date: September 10, 2025
Platform: SiriusXM
Host: Megyn Kelly

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Episode Overview

In this morning update, Megyn Kelly covers three pivotal stories shaping the political and cultural conversation: the federal murder charge related to the tragic Charlotte light rail stabbing, heated debate over crime policy in New York's mayoral race, and a bombshell jobs report revision that revises the recent economic narrative. The episode weaves together firsthand accounts, official statements, and pointed commentary, highlighting tensions between progressive policies and public safety, media narratives, and the reliability of government economic data.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Charlotte Light Rail Stabbing & Federal Charges

[02:49–09:07]

• Incident Recap:

  • DOJ announces a federal charge against Decarlos Brown Jr. for the killing of Irena Zarutska, a 23-year-old Ukrainian immigrant, on a Charlotte, NC light rail train in August.
  • Brown is already in custody on state murder charges; now faces a federal charge under Title 18, Section 1992, for violence on mass transit.
  • Possible penalties include life without parole or the death penalty; further civil rights charges are possible.

• Crime Details:

  • Security footage shows a sudden, vicious attack—Zarutska is stabbed repeatedly and dies while passengers initially offer no aid.
  • The suspect reportedly has mental health issues and a lengthy criminal record (14 prior arrests), and was repeatedly released despite warnings.

• Systemic Critique:

  • Kelly and commentators sharply criticize what they frame as a failure of the justice and mental health system to detain dangerous offenders.
  • The magistrate who released Brown without bond and the judicial system are criticized for perceived leniency—especially given Brown's diagnosed schizophrenia and troubling history.

• Media Bias Allegation:

  • Press Secretary Caroline Levitt and commentators claim mainstream media underreported this killing because it “does not fit a preferred narrative.”
  • Contrasts are drawn with the coverage of Daniel Penny’s NYC subway altercation, questioning journalistic consistency.

• Victim Profile:

  • Irena Zarutska emigrated to the U.S. for safety from Ukraine, worked multiple jobs, and cared for the community.
  • Her family decided to bury her in the U.S. out of her love for America.

    "She loved America. We're going to bury her here." —US Attorney Russ Ferguson ([08:22])

• Political Context:

  • U.S. Attorney Russ Ferguson rejects claims of political grandstanding in bringing federal charges:

    "If this was a political grandstand, there would be an opposite side... There's no other side to this. There's no politics to this." ([08:48])

• Trump’s Response:

  • Trump issues a video statement denouncing leniency by “Democrat-run cities” and calling for tougher responses:

    "We have to be vicious just like they are. It's the only thing they understand." —Donald Trump ([09:15])

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2. NYC Crime, Mayoral Race, and Gang Database Debate

[09:54–12:38]

• Database Controversy:

  • NYC mayoral frontrunner Zoran Mamdani calls for abolishing the NYPD gang database, criticizing it as overbroad and discriminatory:

    "...the vast dragnet has meant the inclusion of New Yorkers on the basis of whether they go out late, photos they put on social media... it then becomes a mark of suspicion." —Zoran Mamdani ([10:47])

• Database Defenders:

  • Law enforcement argues it's a crucial tool, especially as gangs are tied to 65% of NYC shootings.
  • Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch emphasizes gang takedowns and targeted policing:

    "Much of the violence we've seen over the past weeks in the Bronx is gang related. We know who the gang members are thanks to our criminal database..." ([12:04])

• Mayoral Polls and Politics:

  • Mamdani is leading the Democratic mayoral primary by double digits.
  • The White House is reportedly considering job offers to entice some candidates (Adams and Sliwa) to exit the race, attempting to tighten the contest.

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3. Historic Jobs Report Revision and Economic Narrative

[14:30–19:07]

• Record Jobs Revision:

  • The Bureau of Labor Statistics revised down jobs growth for 2024–2025 by 911,000 jobs—the biggest annual downward revision on record.
  • Real average monthly job growth was only about 70,000, not 147,000 as previously reported.

• Political Fallout:

  • Trump removes the Biden-appointed BLS head, accusing the agency of political bias/fudging numbers; critics call it a stunt.
  • Economic analysts flag data gathering breakdowns, especially since COVID-19, noting this revision is double the normal size ([17:09]):

    "This is 0.6. This is double the average... the last couple years have been quite a bit above average in terms of the amount of revision." —Steve Liesman, CNBC ([17:09])

• Market Impact:

  • Major indices dipped on the news but ultimately recovered by market close.

• Monetary Policy Implications:

  • The Trump administration claims the data vindicate calls for Federal Reserve rate cuts.

    "It also proves that the Federal Reserve is holding our monetary policy far too restrictive. Interest rates are too high. The Fed needs to cut the rates..." ([18:17])

  • The report will see a final revision in February.

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4. Campaign Spending Exposed: AOC's “Fighting Oligarchy” Tour

[19:07–21:00]

• Luxury Expenditures:
  • The episode highlights Washington Examiner reporting on AOC’s Federal Election Commission filings, showing significant spending on luxury hotels during anti-oligarchy fundraising events with Bernie Sanders.
  • Notable expenses: $3,508.92 at Vidara Hotel (Las Vegas) and $3,445.59 at Asher Adams Hotel (Salt Lake City)—including a restaurant with $900 wine and $95 caviar.
  • Kelly frames this as hypocrisy, noting AOC’s populist rhetoric alongside plush travel.

    "Nothing says fighting oligarchy quite like racking up hefty bills at five star hotels." —Megyn Kelly ([19:07])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Charlotte Incident:

  • "[The video is] chilling and hard to watch as the viewer knows she's dying... The passengers around her do nothing for over a minute. No one helps her." —Megyn Kelly ([03:36])
  • "This monster should have been locked up. An arena should still be alive. But Democrat politicians, liberal judges and weak prosecutors would rather Virtue Signal than lock up criminals and protect their communities." —Press Secretary Caroline Levitt ([07:13])

• On Law Enforcement and Policing Policy:

  • "There's no question that we have to take gangs extremely seriously. And yet I find that a database that includes New Yorkers on such bases is one that doesn't actually do exactly that." —Zoran Mamdani ([10:47])
  • "We know who the gang members are thanks to our criminal database... This year we have done more gang takedowns in New York City than we ever have." —Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch ([12:04])

• On Economic Data Integrity:

  • "When you look at the revisions as a percent... This is double the average... there’s something not going quite as well as it used to go in terms of the ability of the BLS to gather monthly data." —Steve Liesman ([17:09])

• On Political Hypocrisy:

  • "Nothing says fighting oligarchy quite like racking up hefty bills at five star hotels. Just ask U.S. congresswoman ... Alexandria Ocasio Cortez..." —Megyn Kelly ([19:07])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |----------------------------------------------------|-------------| | Charlotte Light Rail Federal Charges Announced | 02:49–09:07 | | Crime Policy and NYC Mayoral Race (Gang Database) | 09:54–12:38 | | Jobs Report Revision & Economic Fallout | 14:30–19:07 | | AOC Campaign Spending Exposé | 19:07–21:00 | | Notable Quotes from Trump, Ferguson, Mamdani, Tisch | Various |

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Tone & Style

The tone is pointed, urgent, and critical, maintaining the assertive style that listeners expect from The Megyn Kelly Show. It features direct quotes, heavy factual detail, and a hard stance on criminal justice and governmental accountability, punctuated by Kelly's signature skepticism toward left-leaning political figures and policies.

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Transcript

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[Megyn Kelly]

Good morning everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, September 10th, 2025 and this is your AM update.

[Donald Trump]

We have to be vicious just like they are. It's the only thing they understand.

[Megyn Kelly]

The Feds filing a murder charge against the suspect accused of slaying a young woman in cold blood on a Charlotte, North Carolina light rail train. The full video is out and it is horrifying. New York City mayoral candidate Zoran Mamdani endorses a plan making it harder for police to track gang activity.

[Conservative Commentator]

Job growth was vastly weaker during the Biden administration than ever previously reported. Job growth was actually overstated by approximately.

[Megyn Kelly]

2 million jobs, the biggest annual jobs revision in history, revealing President Trump came into office with a much weaker economy than previously known. And wait until you hear how AOC spends her small dollar donations. All that and more coming up in just a moment. On your AM update. Cozy Earth's pajamas and blankets are soft, breathable and so cute. You're going to start planning your evenings around them. Let's talk about the Bamboo Stretch knit pajamas. The fabric is insanely soft, sketchy and lightweight. You you can wear it way past bedtime. It could be your all day cozy uniform confession. It has been mine many days. Then there's the Bubble Cuddle blanket. This thing transforms your couch or your bed. The plush textured faux fur is not just stunning, it's nap inducing. Abigail Finan and I argued over the one we had binge sessions. She won. I mean I love her book reading. Chilly nights. It elevates all of it. And here's the best part. Cozy Earth backs everything with a 100 night sleep trial and a 10 year warranty on blankets. Lifetime guarantee on apparel. How about that? Go to cozyearth.com, use code Megan at checkout for up to 40% off your new favorite pajama set and blanket. That's cozyearth.com code Megan. And if you get a Post purchase survey, be sure to let them know you heard about Cozy Earth right here. Elevate your downtime with Cozy Earth.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

Department.

[Megyn Kelly]

Of Justice officials on Tuesday announcing a federal charge against the man accused of murdering 23 year old Irena Zarutska on a light rail train in Charlotte, North Carolina in late August.

[US Attorney Russ Ferguson]

The Carlos Brown Jr. Who we allege stabbed Erna Szarotska, is in state custody on first degree murder charges. But I'm here today to announce that we're going to supplement those state charges with federal charges. These federal charges will go alongside the murder case in state court and we hope that they will ensure justice for Erna, for her family and for the whole Charlotte community. The charge we are bringing is in title 18, which is the criminal code. It's section 1992, which is the law that Congress passed really for this situation. It is an act of violence on a mass transportation system.

[Megyn Kelly]

The charge is one count of committing an act causing a death on a mass transit system. The maximum penalty is life without parole or capital punishment. US Attorney Russ Ferguson saying prosecutors may bring more charges in the future, including potential civil rights violations. This as newly released security camera footage appears to show the suspect, a black man, saying what sounds like quote, I got that white girl. A second voice appears to add, I think you stabbed a girl. Though further clarification from police is needed to be certain exactly who said what. The tape is deeply disturbing, not for its gore, but for Irena's vulnerability, her clear shock and her apparent horror as we watch her struggling to make sense of what just happened to her. The assailant, who is seated behind her on the light rail train, stands up out of nowhere and stabs her quickly and repeatedly with a pocket knife, including in her neck. He pulls back, done with the attack, and she is now cowering, still conscious, legs pulled up and held to her chest in a defensive position. She is looking up at her attacker in sheer terror. She looks down at her own body, almost as if checking to see if and where she is injured. It is chilling and hard to watch as the viewer knows she's dying. She first covers her mouth as if in horror, then her eyes as she appears to be either crying or about to. Her hands alternate between covering her eyes and her mouth. Again, she appears confused. After about 15 seconds, she collapses over to her left side and down off of her seat, succumbing to her injuries. The passengers around her do nothing for over a minute. No one helps her. A woman in red seated next to her across the aisle appears to look over at a suffering Irena and then looks away. One passenger gets up and walks away, seemingly in the direction of the perpetrator. Finally A fellow passenger appears, a man in a green shirt who takes off that shirt and tries to help stop the bleeding. The New York Post reports that some passengers did attempt CPR in the days since the first videos of the horrific attack were revealed to the public. We've come to learn a lot about this suspect, his mile long rap sheet stretching over more than a decade. 14 arrests including felony larceny, robbery and assault. Known by local law enforcement to have schizophrenia. Most recently arrested in January for repeatedly dialing 911 to report, quote, man made material had been implanted in his body and was controlling how he walked, talked and ate. He was released without bond by Magistrate Judge Teresa Stokes. Not only did Ms. Stokes graduate from a law school with the lowest bar passage rates in America, she also serves as the director of a mental health and addiction treatment facility, leading some to believe she was conflicted and in no position to determine bail for defendants like decarlos Brown with a long rap sheet and obvious mental issues. In July, at the request of his public defender, the court ordered a psychological exam be conducted to assess Brown's competency for trial. That order from Chief District Judge Roy Wiggins, who chose not to detain Brown pending the evaluation. Once again, his obvious mental issues did not result in a lockup. Press Secretary Caroline Levitt taking some of this on from the White House on Tuesday.

[Conservative Commentator]

This monster should have been locked up. An arena should still be alive. But Democrat politicians, liberal judges and weak prosecutors would rather Virtue Signal than lock up criminals and protect their communities. And perhaps most shamefully of all, the majority of the media. Many outlets in this room decided that her murder was not worth reporting on originally because it does not fit a preferred narrative. Many of the journalists in this room spilled plenty of ink trying to smear Daniel Penny for defending a subway car from a deranged lunatic in New York City. But none of those same reporters lift a finger to write stories about an actual murderer.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yesterday, prosecutors sharing more about the life of the victim in Ukraine. Irena earning a degree in art and restoration, she was living in a bomb shelter before she left her home for a brighter life in the US at the time of the attack, she was returning home from a job at a local pizzeria. Officials say she also helped at a retirement home, taking care of neighborhood animals as well. She had recently moved in with her partner, U.S. attorney Ferguson, describing a conversation.

[US Attorney Russ Ferguson]

With her family after Arena's death. The embassy in Ukraine called and said, we'll help you bring her home. And her family said no. They said she loved America. We're going to bury her here.

[Megyn Kelly]

As folks in the media try to spin their own narratives. U.S. attorney Ferguson directly addressing accusations of political grandstanding. What do you say to people who.

[US Attorney Russ Ferguson]

See what's happening here today and wonder.

[Megyn Kelly]

If this is political grandstanding?

[US Attorney Russ Ferguson]

This is a heinous crime and we are going to remedy it. I don't know what the politics is here. If this was a political grandstand, there would be an opposite side to this is the opposite side. Let's allow murders on our light rail is the opposite side. Let's let people out of state prisons so they can commit other crimes. There's no other side to this. There's no politics to this.

[Megyn Kelly]

President Trump releasing a video from the Oval on Tuesday imploring Democrat leaders to work with the federal government to clean up the streets.

[Donald Trump]

For far too long, Americans have been forced to put up with Democrat run cities that set loose savage, bloodthirsty criminals to prey on innocent people in every place they control. Radical left judges, politicians and activists and they've adopted a policy of catch and release for thugs and killers. We cannot allow a depraved criminal element of violent repeat offenders to continue spreading destruction and death throughout our country. We have to respond with force and strength. We have to be vicious just like they are. It's the only thing they understand.

[Megyn Kelly]

As America reels from another senseless act of violence committed by a repeat offender. New York City Democratic Socialist mayoral candidate frontrunner Zoran Mamdani elaborating on plans that could make life easier for alleged criminals in New York City. Mamdani speaking Monday at Columbia University's School of Journalism, saying as mayor he would support abolishing New York City's so called gang database. Established in 2013, the database contains approximately 16,000 names, including some as young as 11 years old, reportedly long criticized by progressives and civil rights groups as racially biased, unfairly targeting black and Hispanic men. A bill to ban the database is currently stalled in the City Council. Hear now Mamdani, if city council legislation to abolish the NYPD gang database were.

[US Attorney Russ Ferguson]

To pass, would you support Ensign that.

[Zoran Mamdani]

I have supported that proposal. It's one that I've supported because of the vast dragnet has meant the inclusion of New Yorkers on the basis of whether they go out late, photos they put on social media so much of the facts of life of being a young New Yorker and yet it then becomes a mark of suspicion. There's no question that we have to take gangs extremely seriously. And yet I find that a database that includes New Yorkers on such bases is one that doesn't actually do exactly that.

[Megyn Kelly]

City Journal, published by the Manhattan Institute, reporting in March on a drop in New York City shootings to nearly pre pandemic levels, citing the database as a key law enforcement tool. Quote, gangs are responsible for 65% of the city's shootings. When a gang member is shot, officers use the database to assess rivalries and anticipate reprisals, and deploy resources strategically to contain escalating violence. Instead of piecing together information from scattered sources, investigators can quickly identify suspects, establish motives, and close cases faster. NYPD Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch defending the database in the wake of Mamdani's comments on 1010 WINS radio.

[NYPD Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch]

Much of the violence that we've seen over the past few weeks in the Bronx is gang related. We know who the gang members are thanks to our criminal database, and we know where they operate. And so you can be sure that we have deployed 1,000 cops in the borough of the Bronx on the streets and the times. We know the crime has occurred. We are focused on precision policing, the right blocks, the right time, and we know who the people are that are in these gangs and we are going after the gangs. This year we have done more gang takedowns in New York City than we ever have.

[Megyn Kelly]

Mayor Eric Adams, running as an independent, supports the database. Independent candidate Andrew Cuomo's stance is unclear. Recent polling from the New York Times shows Mamdani leading the pack by double digits and expanding his top spot in the four way race. 46% of likely voters supporting Mamdani compared to 24% for former governor Andrew Cuomo, 15% for Republican Curtis Sliwa and 9% for incumbent mayor Eric Adams. The number crunchers finding if the field were to shrink to a head to head matchup between Mamdani and Governor Cuomo, the race would likely be much tighter. Mamdani with 48%, Cuomo supposedly with 44. With election day less than two months away, the White House reportedly considering job offers within the administration to get Adams and Sliwa out of the race. That's if they would agree to leave, both candidates stating right now they intend to see it through to the end. Coming up, a new jobs report reveals President Trump inherited a much weaker economy than previously thought. And AOC prides herself on small dollar donations. Wait until you hear how she spends them. You know all those fad diets, half of Americans do them and if you do it enough, you could be at risk of diabetes, liver damage, heart attack and stroke. Oh, joy. Weight cycling is when you lose 10 or more pounds, but then you put the pounds back plus a couple more. That puts tremendous strain on your organs and leads to serious health issues over the long haul. Bottom line, most people need help to stop weight cycling and this is why I want to tell you about non Prescription Lean created by doctors Now. Lean is an oral supplement. It's not a GLP1 injectable. It uses studied ingredients which Lean says target weight loss in three powerful ways 1 maintaining healthy blood sugar 2 helping control appetite and cravings and 3 burning fat by converting it to energy. And of course, burning fat helps keep the weight off. So if you want to lose meaningful weight at a healthy pace and keep it off, consider adding Lean to your diet and exercise lifestyle. Get 20% off when you enter [e-mail] that's code [e-mail] Joe Biden's economy was even worse than we knew, according to new data released yesterday. An annual revision from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, or BLS, showing the U.S. jobs market was much weaker than previously reported across most of 2024 through the beginning of 2025. Each month, the BLS releases jobs data collected from two main surveys, one of homes, another of businesses and government agencies. These monthly reports are early snapshots. The numbers are revised several more times as delayed data becomes available. Once a year, the jobs data gets a full true up, covering the entire stretch from March of one year through the following March, in this case the Bureau of Labor Statistics dropping the largest preliminary revision ever recorded from March of 2024 through March of this year. The BLS reporting 911,000 fewer jobs were created than initially reported. The average employment gains revised downward from 147,000 per month to about 70,000. This is the second August revision in a row, revealing employment numbers were overestimated by nearly 1 million jobs last month. President Trump firing the Biden appointed head of bls, accusing the agency of cooking the books to create more favorable reports under President Biden. Critics of the move calling it a political stunt, accusing Mr. Trump of trying to deflect blame from his own tariff policies, which they say are driving up costs for businesses and slowing growth. Trump administration officials like National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett and senior counselor Peter Navarro arguing data collection methods are outdated and have only deteriorated since COVID CNBC's senior economics reporter Steve Liesman putting the latest revisions into context.

[Conservative Commentator]

There have been questions lately about how this this process, this data. The president raised it. He fired the BLS chief. Does this feed into those concerns about, about how the data was so off.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

I think it should. And I'll tell you why, Sarah, because when I look at the history of these as a percentage of payrolls, actually they do a pretty good job. When you look at the revisions as a percent point one, point two, it's averaged about 0.3. This is 0.6. This is double the average that it was point four in 2024. So the last couple of years have been quite a bit above average in terms of the amount of revision. What's happening here is we're getting jobless claim insurance data from the states. I don't know if the problem is at the state level or if it's at the federal level. Whatever it is, there's something not going quite as well as it used to go in terms of the ability of the BLS to gather monthly data.

[Megyn Kelly]

The Dow Jones, Nasdaq and S&P 500 initially dipping on the news, though rallying throughout the day to finish in the green. Historically weak job growth is a signal for the Federal Reserve to cut interest rates. Press Secretary Caroline Levitt at yesterday's briefing saying these numbers bolster the President's call for the Fed to take action at its meeting next week.

[Conservative Commentator]

This was one of the biggest revisions in absolute terms in decades. Between this revision and last year's job growth was actually overstated by approximately 2 million jobs. And the Biden administration stood up here and vouched for that data and told you that data was real. And when President Trump calls into question the veracity of of that data, like he did before he took the oath of office and even now as President of the United States, he was ridiculed for that. And turns out this revision proves two things. Number one, the President was right. And this is why we need new leadership at the Fed. And this makes it very clear that President Trump inherited a much worse economy by the Biden administration than ever reported. And it also proves that the Federal Reserve is holding our monetary policy far too restrictive. Interest rates are too high. The Fed needs to cut the the rates because of the mess that we inherited from the Biden administration.

[Megyn Kelly]

This annual report will be revised one final time. Those numbers expected in February. Nothing says fighting oligarchy quite like racking up hefty bills at five star hotels. Just ask U.S. congresswoman from New York, Democrat Socialist Alexandria Ocasio Cortez or aoc. The Washington examiner reporting on the Congresswoman's Federal Election Commission filings. Campaign expenditures revealing large tabs at luxury accommodations coinciding with stops on the Fighting Oligarchy Tour launched earlier this year by Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. AOC is a frequent guest on the tour. The AM Update reporting in April on the duo's penchant for flying first class, or better yet, private as they crisscross the country to raise money from regular folks in their so called fight against the oligarchs of the Trump administration. The examiner noting the stark contrast between AOC's message to the crowds and what her life is really like behind the scenes. Last March in Vegas, AOC railing against income inequality telling rally goers, quote, we don't have to live like this anymore, Las Vegas. We deserve better than this. Only for the campaign to then drop $3,508.92 at the Vidara Hotel and Spa, according to the examiner in April after a Salt Lake City rally railing against the rich. Expense reports show the campaign dropping $3,445.59 at the Asher Adams Hotel, the examiner reporting, quote, retrofitted from a historical railroad station, the train themed hotel houses a fine dining restaurant offering wine as pricey as $900 a bottle, lobster towers and $95 caviar for appetizers. Altogether, the filings show more than eight grand in luxury hotel bills over just two months, thanks to the small dollar campaign donors AOC claims to champion we don't have to live like this. Indeed. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for the Megyn Kelly show live on Sirius XM triumph channel 111 at noon east on YouTube.com megankelly and on all podcast platforms. Welcome back to Listen to youo Heart.

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