
Megyn Kelly is joined by Jesse Kelly, host of "The Jesse Kelly Show," to discuss Jill Biden’s attempt to spin Joe Biden’s disastrous debate performance, her lies now trying to make herself look better, why Jesse sees her treatment of her affirmed husband is possibly "evil," and more. Growing backlash from the Democratic establishment about Jill Biden's book tour, Jill's attempt to spin Joe's cancer diagnosis, James Talarico now attempting to walk back his past comments about six genders and God being "non-binary," why Texas voters won't buy his new persona, and more. Then Damilare Sonoiki, TV writer, and Stepfanie Tyler, founder, "Bad Girl Media" and "Westly," join to discuss why Sonoiki's viral Spencer Pratt videos are blowing up online, the rise of Pratt in the LA mayor race, Chelsea Handler's attempt to smear Pratt, why the attacks aren't working, the "Freedom 250" concert's lineup full of previously-famous musicians, the real reason the musicians are canceling their appearances...
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Megyn Kelly
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Stephanie Tyler
Friday.
Megyn Kelly
June's right around the corner. The sun is shining here in the northeast. It's absolutely gorgeous. Just got back from Nashville where I sat down with Sean Ryan. It was a great exchange. He is such a great guy. Great team. Really, really positive trip, I think. I think it comes out Monday, but you can check Sean's feeds for that. But so great to see him again. Remember when I first had him on here in the red studio a couple years ago and a beautiful friendship was formed and then he took me out back and we shot up some shit. Some shit. So that was fun. I'm not much of a shooter, but I did enjoy it and he has the best little, like, range out in back of his studio. We had a great time. Further updates to follow. So there are a ton of stories that we've got to tell you about today. And of course, you've probably seen the biggest one online by this point, Jill Biden. Who does she think she's kidding? She's, she's actually trying to feign surprise at Joe's meltdown at that disastrous debate back in 2024. Now she's saying she watched it and thought he might have been drugged. She wondered, she says, if he was having a stroke. Yes, that's Dr. Jill and her doctor's diagnosis, apparently. Did she run up on the stage to help him? Did she try to intervene in any way, saying, my God, my husband of 50 years is having a stroke. I don't remember that. I remember her running up there celebrating him, calmly going to the moderators after the fact. Jake Tapper's out there saying that himself today, saying that she came over all smiles after it was over. I remember. You did it, Joe. You answered all the questions, I don't remember. Why don't we get the President back to his hotel room where he can rest and get a doctor over here right away. I don't remember that. Do you? No, I don't remember her. When he continued running. Jill Biden speaking out and saying it's too much on him. This is not what's right. What I saw was a power hungry first lady who was sitting in his seat with his jacket over the back and also at cabinet meetings pretending that she was the President. This woman was going to get that Weekend at Bernie's husband of hers over that finish line if it killed both of them. We're going to get into it. Plus, Gail King now speaking out about her relationship with Oprah. That'll be interesting. We'll get to it later. Joining me today for our first hour is our pal Jesse Kelly. He's hosted the Jesse Kelly show, which you can find on the Megyn Kelly Channel, Sirius XM111 and every night at 6pm Eastern. What does it feel like when your clothes actually feel good this spring? Cozy Earth makes the case that what you wear at home matters just as much as what you wear out of the house and maybe even more. Let me tell you about the brushed bamboo jogger set. Made from viscose from bamboo, it's lightweight, breathable and unbelievably soft with enough structure to feel put together even at home or their lake house clogs. Designed for everyday home life, they feature a cushioned footbed, ultra soft interior and easy slip on design. And with easy returns and a lifetime warranty, it's comfort worth upgrading to give yourself the kind of comfort that lives with you all day. Designed to keep you cozy, comfortable and actually relaxed all season long. Head on over to cozyearth.com and use our code Megan for up to 30% off your order plus but just for a limited time. This exclusive offer runs just through June 1st. Okay. Through June 1st only. So do not wait. That's Code Megan@cozyearth.com for up to 30% off. And if you see a post purchase survey, tell them that you heard about Cozy Earth right here. Jesse, welcome back. A great day to have you. This stuff with Jill Biden is unbelievable. Let's just show, um, let's see. She, she gave an interview on it. Do we have it to queued up? Show what she's saying now about how shocked, shocked she was. I think it's sat 8. When she saw this debate. Were you horrified as you saw it unfold I wasn't horrified, I was frightened because I had never ever seen Joe like that before. Or since. Never.
Gayle King
Or since?
Megyn Kelly
Yes. Or since. Never seen him. Never? No. What happened? I don't know what happened. I mean, as I watched it, I thought, oh, my God, he's having a stroke. And it scared me to death. Jesse Kelly, I submit these are lies. She had seen him many, many times and she did not think he was having a stroke. She knew this was par for the course. This is revisionist history to make her look less culpable on the COVID up. Your take?
Jesse Kelly
Well, I have a lot to say, Megan. Sorry, sorry. Just let me have it for a couple of minutes. First of all, she's a Biden and the Bidens are like every. All politicians lie, Republicans lie, Democrats lie. You understand? You're going to get some degree of lying with all politicians. That's the way it's always been. But there in American politics, I've never found anybody who lies bigger than the Bidens lied. And I say that because they would tell gigantic, easily verifiable lies over and over and over again. And Joe Biden, he used to say it was one of his go to lines of, you know, back when the second amendment was written, you couldn't own a cannon. And his own staffers went to him and said, joe, could you please stop saying that, that's just verifiably false. You could own a cannon, could you? Could you set that one aside? But he never stopped, like, it just doesn't matter. You just tell the biggest, boldest lie. It doesn't matter. So for her to say big, bold Biden lies. Yeah, of course Biden lies. They're amazing. For her to say she never saw him like that, it's just such a Biden lie. It's not just an obvious lie, it's a huge obvious, right in your face lie. The Joe Biden we saw as the American people was the best version of him after they had him hopped up on God knows what they were injecting into that guy as his brain was slowly melting into tapioca pudding. Jill Biden saw him in the morning, she saw him at night after the cameras were off and the drugs had worn off and there was nothing left but a senile, possibly, I mean, I don't know, Alzheimer's, dementia, I don't know, it's all terrible. I'm not celebrating it, but those people go down fast. At the end of the day, it's called sundowning. I know. Everyone knows about it now, courtesy of Joe Biden. But she saw Joe Biden borderline comatose. And I know because we saw him comatose on the television set. And I go back and forth on this one, Megan, between I'm trying to figure out if they're just genuinely a power couple and that if Joe Biden, young, sober Joe Biden, who was in his right mind, if he wouldn't want his wife to try to ram him through for a second term, maybe they're just a political power couple or. My other side of this, where I go back and forth is, is she one of the most deeply evil human beings on the face of the planet? Because people going through dementia, if we're going to call it that, if that's what it actually is, they need rest and calm and care. That, that, that's, that's. Everyone knows that. Any, anyone who's been associated with it, I have as well knows that that's what those people need. To take your own husband and throw him into the most stressful job on the planet and then demand that he run and do it again for four years. It would have killed him. He would have died in office. It would have killed him.
Megyn Kelly
So true.
Jesse Kelly
It would have broken him. And she had to know that they have all the best doctors in the world. She had to know that, yet she did it anyway. So again, is she just a professional wife doing what he would have wanted or just an evil witch or somewhere in between? I don't know.
Megyn Kelly
It doesn't matter. Even if the younger Joe Biden would have wanted this, he had. He had to be overruled. A loving spouse would say, now you're 80 something and you're not well, and, and I'm overruling that. They say when you're dealing with somebody who has dementia, you know, they tell you the same stories over and over and they ask you the same questions. They don't remember what you told them, that you're not even supposed to say, I told you that, remember? Or no, remember this? We just talked about that. Because it's rattling to them. They don't know that. They've already had this conversation with you umpteen times. And it's upsetting to them to be kind of reminded that clearly they're, they're slipping, they're losing their grip. So you're supposed to be very gentle in handling this issue. You really shouldn't make them president of the United States where millions of people and hundreds of press members are going to write about how you keep forgetting every night and day or shove him out on a debate stage where he sounds like this. I mean, we've all seen it a thousand times. But let's just look back at how it went. Was it, is it sought for all
Domeri Sonoiki
those things we need to do, childcare, elder care, making sure that we continue
Jesse Kelly
to strengthen our health care system, making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for.
Domeri Sonoiki
What I've been able to do with the, with the COVID Excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with
Jesse Kelly
if we finally beat Medicare. Thank you, President Biden. President Trump was right.
Megyn Kelly
He did beat Medicare.
Jesse Kelly
He beat it to death. And he's destroying Medicare because all of these people are coming in, they're putting them on Medicare.
Megyn Kelly
Trump's face in that clip is so legendary. It's legendary and very controlled by, for Trump, who, you know, even he knew, like, I don't really want to mock him, but I've got to exploit this. And then of course, he would go on in that great answer to say, well, here it is, Sat three and I'm going to continue to move until
Domeri Sonoiki
we get the total ban on the
Jesse Kelly
total initiative relative to what we're going to do with more border patrol and more asylum officers.
Domeri Sonoiki
President Trump, I really don't know what
Jesse Kelly
he said at the end of that sentence. I don't think he knows what he said either.
Megyn Kelly
Look, That night was the end of the Joe Biden presidential reelection campaign. And Trump handles himself beautifully. If he'd been too mean, the voters at home would have held it against him. He did. He went just far enough, but not too far. And this wife who shoved him up there and wants to pretend she never saw anything like that in private, Jesse is a liar. I mean, this is like, and it's an obvious lie. So why do you think she's doing this now?
Jesse Kelly
I think that Joe Biden is uniquely power hungry and uniquely concerned about Joe Biden's legacy. I don't know if you remember. You probably do. You seem to remember everything after he was, after he had that debate performance and the communists were trying to push him out so he wouldn't run again. They wanted to replace him and they ended up being successful. But during, during that whole squabble between Pelosi and Jill Biden and all that. It came out, I forget which magazine it was, but it came out that Jill Biden was insistent that he get another presidential term otherwise. And this was her concern that debate performance was going to be what people remember about Joe's entire political career. And actually, since she's not incorrect about that. I mean, Joe Biden was senator forever, then vice president. The President of the United States of America. I mean, look, I don't like the guy, I don't like his politics. But he has a long political resume that's pretty impressive when you look at it on paper. And yet most people are going to remember Joe Biden, his mouth hanging open, losing his train of thought. That is now going to be what people remember Joe Biden as. And that was part of her motivation, she said, to give him another term. So it wasn't his legacy. So this is very much some lady who sees herself as a queen. She's worried about how the king will be remembered. And now she's on this press tour doing the best she can. She tried to ride it out and wait it out for as long as possible. Now she's trying to massage that whole image thing. But the truth is she only has herself to blame. That's 1. And 2. I will go back to being completely evil. If I cut myself shaving and I leave a piece of toilet paper on the little bloody part. My wife will stop me on the way out the door and say, honey, babe, hold on. Take that up. Why? She doesn't want me to be embarrassed in front of other people. She doesn't care. But that's just a basic spouse thing. You don't want your spouse to be embarrassed in front of other people, so you try to protect them. This evil witch took her husband, who she knew was non functional, and basically had him mocked in front of the planet. That's the most amazing part. We've all been mocked and we've all had a bad moment in high school or your professional career where you had a bad moment. You had that moment in front of 20 people, in front of 30 people when Joe Biden had his moments. The entire planet watched and mocked him. We had foreign countries doing basic Saturday Night Live skits mocking his mental health. And his wife kept pushing him out to do it. It is so freaking evil. Even if it is just a marriage of convenience, it is so evil to do that to your own spouse. I. She is built differently.
Megyn Kelly
It's true. And they're. And now they're reporting because, you know, she's got this book out and that's why she's giving this interview. And we're learning more about her, her claims. But she said, the night of the debate, she said, well, when it began, I immediately noticed that Joe didn't look good. He didn't seem himself. From the opening she says, she writes, he improved as the debate went on, quote, but not enough to reassure me or anyone watching that he was okay. He clearly wasn't. I'd never seen that look on his face before in my life. Then she says, the biggest lesson for us, I think, was that if you don't explain something well enough, then the question won't go away. There was never a satisfying enough explanation offered for Joe's debate performance, and a lot of people never got over it. If they just could have explained it better, Jesse, they. What do you mean?
Jesse Kelly
What?
Megyn Kelly
There's nothing to explain. We know exactly what's happening there. No explanation. You're the people who just tried to gaslight us, telling us, don't believe your lion eyes. And then all these top Democrat operators are coming out right now very angry at her, saying, f you, Jill Biden, because you tried to shame us when we did try to explain, saying, clearly, he's struggling, he's having a bad night on, you know, there's been some cognitive issue, whatever. This White House wasn't having it. So for her to now be like, oh, we should have explained it better.
Jesse Kelly
Well, again, she's a Biden and she, she lies.
Domeri Sonoiki
Remember.
Jesse Kelly
Do you remember when they tried to tell us? Because they knew obviously when he was running for office, not when he was running. They knew that he was mentally declining. And we could all see it. They tried to tell us that he had a stutter. And they started getting their plants in the media to write stories about how this kid with a stutter overcome the stutter.
Megyn Kelly
And deep fake, deep fake.
Jesse Kelly
We'd all watch Joe Biden forever. And we knew he was kind of an idiot in a boob, but he didn't have a freaking stutter. No one ever heard anything about a stubborn. They tried to. So the lies were carefully constructed. They had, remember, we got all the stories. We got all the stories. After it came out. They had to put tape down on the floor laying out for him the exact path he was supposed to watch and now walk. And you could now, you could watch him do that little shuffle step trying to get his Pat. They went to painstaking lengths to lie and cover up about his mental condition. Painstaking lengths. And the funniest part, again, about her saying, I've never seen him like that before, is those of us who are politically interested, that would be you, me, and every wonderful person watching and listening to us right now on the great Megyn Kelly Show. So everybody here is going to be on the same page. None of us were surprised by that debate performance, because that's how Joe Biden talked the entire frigging presidency. He had a million of those moments behind the podium. Remember after he got our troops killed in Afghanistan with his brain fried. He was always like that. And we watched him. Now, for the normie out there who's not politically interested, that may have been their first introduction to Joe Biden having a melted brain, but everyone else had watched him talk like that for four years.
Megyn Kelly
It certainly wasn't Jill Biden's first introduction to that side of her husband believes it's such an obvious lie. Okay, on your points, you made several good ones about the. The stutter. The lies about how it was an alleged stutter that was Joe Biden's only problem. May I remind you of SOT 15 here. This was from October 18, 2020, right before Joe Biden was elected. I give you Jake Tapper versus Lara Trump.
Jesse Kelly
Joe Biden, as we all know, his work to overcome a stutter. How do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like that?
Megyn Kelly
First and foremost, I had no idea that Joe Biden ever suffered from a stutter. I think what we see on stage with Joe Biden, Jake, is very clearly a cognitive decline. That's what I'm referring to. It makes me uncomfortable.
Jesse Kelly
You are. No. That's so amazing.
Megyn Kelly
You're trying to tell me that what I was suggesting was.
Jesse Kelly
I think you were mocking his stutter. I think you were mocking his stutter. And I think you have absolutely no standing to diagnose somebody's cognitive decline.
Megyn Kelly
And it's very concerning to a lot of people that this could be the leader of the free world.
Jesse Kelly
Okay.
Megyn Kelly
That is all I'm saying. I genuinely sorry for Joe.
Jesse Kelly
I appreciate it. I'm sure it was from a place of concern. We all. We all believe that. Lara Trump. Thank you so much.
Megyn Kelly
The gaslighting was going on for years. That's. And that's, by the way, the person who then wrote the book trying to inform the rest of the world that Joe Biden had cognitive decline. That was hidden. Gee, why was it again, that that wasn't better covered white? Why was it. Oh, yeah, because people like you tried to gaslight us and tell us it was a stutter and tried to shame anybody on Team Trump or on Team Blue in general, who tried to say, I'm not sure he's up for this job.
Jesse Kelly
Well, you know, what they really should have done in the very beginning? Meghan is listening to Nancy Pelosi. As much as Grandma Vodka has kind of fallen off by the wayside as she's gotten older too, she really is one of the most effective political operators we've seen in this country in the last two or three decades. She's extremely impressive and she always had the right idea about Joe Biden and what to do with Joe Biden. And of course, she was 100% correct in shoving Joe Biden out and not letting him run for reelection. The Democrat Party, anytime they've swayed away from what Nancy Pelosi wants, has fallen on very difficult times. And I understand why they thought they had to hitch their wagon to Joe Biden. During Donald Trump's first reelection campaign. Donald Trump looked like he might possibly win reelection. Bernie Sanders was gonna win the Democrat primary. So they had to dig up some sort of a relatively normal looking, normal sounding, ha ha, that didn't work out, kind of old white guy and then steal the election and then they could just kind of prop him up. But Jake Tapper might be he, he might be him and his media friends might be as bad as Joe Biden in this entire thing. Because it actually is, as much as it pains me to say it, it is important to have journalists. Media is actually a really, really important job to have an industry of people who expose powerful people, expose the truth, help out normal people. This, this is, this is part of you want journalists. And when your journalists become defenders of the regime, just because it happens to have the right politics, it really puts your country in a bind because there were legions of people who were genuinely surprised that Joe Biden was not a functional adult. That is something the American media should have exposed during the Democrat primary before he ever won the Democrat nomination. That should have been exposed instead of stories about his stutter, like anyone's believe in that, instead of stories about that. It should have been a front page New York Times expose, 10 pages on Joe Biden not being functional. He can't carry meetings with his staffers. He needs little place cards behind the camera. These should have been story after story after story after story. But because he's a Democrat and everyone in the media is a communist, they all decided they were going to cover it up to defeat the big bad orange man. And as a result, Joe Biden wounded this country in his four years in ways we may never recover from. I mean, we're talking about Joe Biden here and Joe Biden. But let's, let's talk about the fact that Joe Biden, because he wasn't functional, had communists like a Professed. Communist like Anita Dunn running the United States of America. We brought in 20 million foreign barbarians who are now raping and murdering and stealing their way across the country. This is the result of all these media cover ups of Jill Biden's lies. The result, our people have died. Like, it's not a light issue. People have died because of these lies.
Megyn Kelly
That's exactly right. And there's been no accountability. They, they, the Democrats are mad now. Like the guys over at Pod Save America, those are the Obama guys. Because they feel like this whole thing, and they did speak out on it and they got their hands slapped. They feel like this whole thing has, like, created a fracture of trust within the Democrat base toward the Democrat Party elite that still has not healed. Here was a little bit of their exchange in the wake of those Jill Biden comments. Watch.
Jesse Kelly
It's like you didn't want to take him to a doctor if you thought he had a stroke. I think most Democratic primary voters think that Joe Biden accomplished some great things as president. I don't think they appreciated being fucking lied to. Who didn't just lie about the debate performance, but gaslighted, gaslit everyone and told us we were all overreacting bedwetters, that their polls were fine, that the fucking debate was fine. And now Joe Biden's like, yeah, we were lying the whole time and they went after us personally. Yes. I went from feeling kind of bad about the whole situation to being like, oh, okay, fuck you. Then. The people who are saying, why don't you let it go? Why are you talking about this? I didn't make Joe Biden write a book and then whine about how Joe Biden was mistreated by our podcast, Nancy Pelosi, the party. Right. You know who was mistreated? The American people. There is never a second of remorse or an apology for their utterly disastrous decision. And people don't trust the Democratic Party and it's not gonna bite us in the ass in the midterms, but it will bite us in the ass in 2028, I promise.
Megyn Kelly
Okay, I got one more for you, which is. This is Jill Biden's former spokesman. Listen to him on Fox 9.
Jesse Kelly
Because their instincts are always, always, always, always to protect and to hide. For a year, they could not show and tell that he could do the job. And the debate was the end of a conversation. It was not the beginning. It was not the concern. It was the affirmation that there was a problem.
Megyn Kelly
How about that? I mean, even her former spokesperson just letting her have It. Not to mention those guys over at Pod Save who are pissed. I mean, there's. Let me just give you this via the Washington Post. This is from last year in April 2024. The debate was June of 2024. Favreau, which is one of the guys we just listened to on that Pod Save clip, visited the White House with his podcast co hosts and several other influencers at a meet and greet the night before the White House Correspondents Dinner. Biden was incoherent and frail. He kept telling stories that no one could understand. Sixteen months had passed, but he seemed to have aged a half century. An alarmed Favreau approached a White House aide, but his concerns were brushed off. The President was just tired. He was told it was the end of a long week, there was no reason for concern. And so when he spoke up, when some others, a limited few inside the Democrat elite, they were chastised. Jill Biden was the enforcer. She was the one who would run around. When James Rosen asked that question, Mr. President, with respect, why do so many people have concerns about your cognitive health? She freaked out behind the scenes saying, how did we allow that to happen? What's. She was the enforcer, Jesse. So it's interesting to see all these Democrats now come out and now they're shit's getting real. Like the veil is down. Like they're all talking about what was actually going on at the time.
Jesse Kelly
You ever see that movie, Dave? Megan? I'm almost positive it's called Dave. There's a movie. For anyone who hasn't seen the movie, Dave, by the way, Kevin Klein. That's exactly right. It's quality movie. But the president dies of a heart attack and there happens to be a guy who looks. It's a stroke, looks just like him. He's a dead ringer for him. And so all these advisors grab the guy who's a dead ringer for him and make him pretend to be president. And then throughout the movie, look, spoiler alert. I think the movie's 30 years old. But throughout the movie, at some point in time, the guy who's just the pretend president starts to act as if he is the president and make decisions. And all these advisors are so offended and mortified by this. You're not the president. You're just this figurehead we put there. Who do you think you are? That is exactly what you're looking at right now with the Obama types and the Democrat Party power people when it comes to Joe Biden. Joe Biden was nobody. He was a nobody. Senator Barack Obama, who is somebody and very savvy, as much as I can't stand him, drag Joe Biden out to be his vice president. Get propped Joe Biden up and then sent him off to a better retirement because he's the former vice president. Then they went and dragged him out of retirement and they raised him all the money. He didn't raise anything himself. He can't even talk. They raised him all the money. They ran everyone else out of the primary. They essentially handed Joe Biden the presidency of the United States of America with the understanding that he would just sit there and drool on himself and let them do the auto pen and open up the country to 20 million barbarians and hand out billions to your greening friends and everything. Joe, sit there. Here's the Werther's original. You don't get to make any decisions. You're the fake president. Sit there and do it. The reason they're all offended is at some point in time, Joe Biden or Jill Biden decided that they actually were in power and they were going to make decisions and they're going to decide if they're going to run again. And now, now you see all these Obama types who understood exactly what I just said, letting them all know. You weren't even in. We did all this for you. You were fake. You never had anything at all. That's what you see. It's Dave played out. It's more Dave than Weekend at Bernie's.
Megyn Kelly
Except Dave was way better than Joe Biden. He had his friend Charles Grodin come over to the White House and audit the books. His friend was a cpa. He was like, yeah, government like this. Remember they ordered the big, I think, Reuben sandwiches. Whatever it was. Okay, here is a little bit more. CBS News sat down with her. That's where we got that first sound bite, by the way. Zero follow up by cbs. Like, it's really kind of stunning, the failure of journalism we witnessed. They're like, how dare you not say what? You've got to be kidding me. Of course you knew. The whole nation knew. What do you mean? You thought he was having a stroke. You celebrated after the fact. You said he didn't do so well. He answered all the questions. Questions. You brought him to a Waffle House. Do you bring him for an eval at the er? Like, who do you think you're kidding? Anyway, here's more. It just got released as we came to air from this interview, which will air on CBS Sunday Morning. Sat ab. I can remember getting the diagnosis and it was just, it was shocking. Do you think that someone, when he was in, in the White House should have discovered it, given him a test? Well, you know, the doctors said that according to the American Urological association, that men over 70 don't need a PSA, a blood test anymore because it's a slow growing cancer. I have to say, Rita, I do feel we had amazing care in the White House, but somehow that was missed. And she reportedly went on to say, you know, something to the effect of, you've gotta be kidding me. You basically had him covered in gauze and bubble wrapped and you missed stage four cancer. So I have my questions there too, Jesse, about that. They really want us to believe they had no idea that he had prostate cancer which had metastasized into bone cancer. Again, stage four. I just don't believe a word that comes out of her mouth.
Jesse Kelly
Yeah, again, I want to be really careful about this here because cancer is something that is just, honestly, it's just the worst thing in the world. We've all lost somebody to cancer and we're all going to lose somebody from cancer. It's horrible. So I want to be careful about this here. But are we believing that he has these things? I don't know that given the history of lies from these people, from the stutter to everything else, I don't know that I'm willing to accept at face value that Joe Biden has stage four cancer, that he has bone cancer. Joe Biden is apparently walking cancer. Because I think it was just last week or the week before. It was very recently I saw Joe Biden in a full suit, stumbling his way through a speech. Joe Biden, I mean, stage four cancer patients going through treatment. I do know enough about this, having gone through it in my own life, not me personally, that you don't put on a suit and stand up and give speeches when you have freaking bone cancer and everything else. I don't know what I'm willing to believe that.
Megyn Kelly
Well, I mean, look, as we've been discussing. She's a liar. I'm sorry, but she's a liar. She's especially a liar about her husband and his health. And you know, you look at those, you know, the sound bites that I, that I just played for you. And what she's been saying now in this interview and in her book about how she'd never seen that look on his face. And, and she, she was stunned. She, she just thought he didn't look good, but he just didn't seem himself. And then I thought he was having a stroke. And then this is actually what happened. People will remember this after the debate. This is what she said. This is how she, she sounded in Sat 6. Joe, you did such a great job. You answered every question.
Domeri Sonoiki
You knew all the facts.
Megyn Kelly
And let me ask, ask the crowd, what did Trump do? So, okay, it's like, which version do we believe? The version then or now? It's very maddening. And I will say, like, all those Democrats who helped cover up these lies, Jesse, like they're complicit. They can't be saved by a Jill Biden, you know, revisionist history book. But I do wonder why she wrote it, because I guess it's the final fuck you to the Democrat Party, right? Because this is not helpful in any way to the Democrats. They don't want to be discussing this. They don't want this broad. Right now the Republican Party is engaged in a circular firing squad. And its leader has poll numbers that have fallen into the garbage as a result of the Iran war and inflation. And they've been doing a very good job of keeping their mouth, mouth shut to keep themselves out of the news cycle as everybody on Team Red hurts themselves. Right? Like that is the smart move. Enter Jill Biden, to bring the conversation back to their lowest moment in recent history and revive a debate that is unwinnable for Democrats.
Jesse Kelly
Well, think about how many historical stories you've read, Meghan. I mean, honestly, there's stories that still exist today of a leader, a king, a monarch, somebody who ends up going through some sort of a revolution, ends up getting pushed out of power. And this king is living in exile in some other country where he has some embassy. And it seems like every single one of these stories have the king spending the rest of his life figuring, figuring out how he can come back to power, what, what he can do to go back and take it again. Not just enjoying some time on the beach. Time on the beach in a mansion is not enough for him. He wants to be king again like he always was. Jill Biden is obviously a ruthlessly ambitious individual who very much enjoyed the trappings of being first lady of the United States of America. She enjoyed the Vanity Fair covers. She enjoyed sitting there on Air Force One going through binders like anybody elected her to do anything. This is a woman who really, really ENJ power and fought very hard to keep Joe Biden in power. And now that Grandma Vodka, Nancy Pelosi and the others managed to shove Joe Biden out, Jill Biden was never going to retire quietly to Nantucket and take up quilting. Jill Biden. You know how many nights she's probably sat there, Megan, with an extra glass of vino in her hand and stewed about all these dirty people like Pelosi who screwed her over and cost her her throne and everything else. Did we never think that she was gonna come up with a way to screw Democrats for the way she feels screwed? Oh, yeah, absolutely. I still maintain to this day the Democrats really screwed up when they pushed Joe Biden out. Not for pushing him out. They had to push him out. They should have paid him off in some way. It would have had to be significant. Cuz you're asking the man to give up the presidency of the United States of America. But it should have come with more sugar cubes and less whip. I'm sure they tried some sugar cubes, but Jill Biden should have walked out and do a $10 million a year job, a $15 million a year job. Joe Biden, find a way to set them up with sugar cubes so you don't have this bitter, ambitious hag sitting at home with nothing better to do but fire off a book that screws Democrats over. They should have made her happy. They didn't. And now you get what you get. Don't throw a fish.
Megyn Kelly
So true. Oh, my gosh. I mean, we're loving it over here because it's like, okay, good luck. Good luck with that loose cannon. You guys set her up. She's. She and her husband have ruined your party over the past, you know, five, six years. I think that's obvious to everybody now. Your best hope is Trump's approval numbers. That's your best hope going into the next election cycle. And speaking of Trump, I want to get to a few more things here. There is the possibility of a deal. I know, I know. But there is the possibility of a deal, I think, for real, to end this war in Iran. I just want to tell you quickly, there's a report as we come to air that Trump rushed. What was the word used into the Situation Room. And the interpretation by the Barack Ravid of Axios, the guy to whom they've been leaking. We have a deal. We have a deal. We have a deal. You know, 16 times. None of, none of which we actually had a deal, is that he thinks we have a deal. He thinks we have a deal. Because Trump tweeted out on Truth Social. Iran must agree that they will never have a nuclear weapon or bomb. The Hormuz Strait must be immediately open. No tolls for unrestricted shipping traffic. In both directions. All water, mines and bombs will be terminated. And so on. It goes on and on and on. And he says, I will be meeting now in the Situation Room to make a final determination. I think people are sick and tired of hearing about this. I don't. I think, like my hairstylist Sarah, they don't give a shit about the straight of Hormuz and they don't want to hear any more about it. She calls it the straight of Hormuth. This is good news. If this is true, if he actually does have one this time. Jesse, Amen. God bless, because we've been teetering on it on the razor's edge of are we going to strike a deal? That's not. It's not perfect, suffice it to say. Or are we going to double down on the bombing campaign because the neocons are pushing Trump to do that. Go in there, quote, finish them off. I don't even know what that mean. What is, what does that mean? We're going to blow up everybody. And it's too tempting. It's been too, like, it's been offered as a real option to go in there and like, double, triple down on the bombing campaign, possibly even putting boots on the ground, like, just get America even further entrenched in this thing, which I believe would be a political and humanitarian disaster. So I like this post, and I like the thought that as we go into June, we may be going out of Iran and back to domestic issues, God willing. Your thoughts?
Jesse Kelly
Well, I have a bunch of thoughts. First of all, Trump is not an idiot. As much as his critics may think he's an idiot. Trump can read poll numbers, too. And Trump understands that if you have lost independence to the degree that he has currently lost independence, that that spells disaster. So that doesn't have to be a permanent situation. If you get things wrapped up, you get a deal done, you get home, you focus. Domestically, these numbers can change. Numbers change all the time. Numbers go up, numbers come down. If they stay as they are right now, we are in deep, deep trouble. Trump is not a moron. Trump doesn't feel like getting impeached every other day, which he will if Democrats win the House of Representatives. He can read. He knows reality. So that's reality. Look, I'm never going to believe I wrote this off weeks ago. I'm never going to believe any true social posts or reporting or anything else about deals and, or new bombing runs, because every day I have woken up and I've grabbed my phone and I find out we're about to bomb Iran in 20 minutes, and then I'll check my phone again in a half hour and we're five minutes away from a deal. We're just crossing the D's and dotting the eyes. And this has been going on now for, what is this, three months? And I just. I'm sorry, I don't believe anything yet. The truth is, as I've said, once Trump made the decision, it was his decision. Once he made the decision to go in here, easy options vanished. I know people wanted and still want, they still want an easy option. And all these people, everybody, they're all deluding themselves. Stopping, just dropping everything and going home is not an easy option. It's going to be ugly. If you do a deal with Iran, there are going to be things in that deal that make you wince and cringe, because otherwise, why would Iran do a deal if they didn't get something out of the deal? Going in, bombing boots on the ground. This is not easy either. These are all very difficult, very expensive, very potentially politically costly. All the easy options vanished the second Trump sent a naval armada across the Atlantic Ocean to go bomb Iran. He made that call. Now easy's done. So what we're going to deal with now is, if there is a deal, Trump is going to find a lot of his newfound friends who have fallen in love with him over the last three months are going to be less than enthused by him, and they're going to start, in his mind, they're going to start betraying him. Mark my words. You can go ahead and write this down. We are days, if not weeks, away from Trump blasting people on true social media who have, who have been his newfound friends, because these newfound friends are going to freak out at the prospect that we're not going to bomb Iran into glass. That's what they have really wanted all along. If they think there's a chance that's not what we're going to get, they're going to start getting loud about it. Trump is going to feel betrayed and he's going to start giving it to them both barrels. This whole thing is ugly and awful, and it is what it is.
Megyn Kelly
I agree with every word. Well said. Forging forward, we've been playing some Jesse Kelly sound bites this week on the show in connection with the Ken Paxton win. And nobody said it better than you did about why you wanted him in and corn and out in the way only you can. Jesse. So now that you're here, I've got to ask you your reaction to the fact that Paxton did win by a lot and to now the the Talarico 180 on his most controversial statements. It's been amazing this week to watch. He's taking it all back about the six genders and God is non binary and that he doesn't eat meat. He's taking it all back and in some cases pretending it was never said in the first place, even though it's all on tape. I'll get into some of those sound bites in a second. But first, your overall first of all,
Jesse Kelly
I am 100% positive that James Talarico consumes meat. 100% sure about that. That is 1, 2. James Talarico is not going to win the Senate seat in the state of Texas. So all these rhino goober dorks in Washington, D.C. and the GOP side were out there wringing their hands. Well now it's going to cost a lot of money. It's a very difficult race. James Talarico is not going to win the state of Texas. Ken Paxton is going to be the next Republican senator from the state of Texas.
Domeri Sonoiki
Texas.
Jesse Kelly
But let me explain something as frankly as I possibly can. This is the kind of thing that can save the United States of America. And let me clarify, let me clarify here. The reason this country looks so red yet is governed fairly down the middle. We have all these communist policies and all these things. A big reason is there has always been for my entire life a relatively small cabal of red state GOP senators who will step in at crucial moments to screw us over and aid the communists. Not a bunch of them because they would never get away with that. There's always four or five or six of these guys who seem to be lurking around the Senate ready to screw us on some sort of a critical moment or some sort of critical vote. And the reason these red state GOP senators have gotten away with this is they do it when they're far enough away from reelection and they bank on the red state GOP primary voter being too stupid and lazy to hold them to account the next time there's a primary. And in their defense, that has been the case. John Cornyn has stepped up to screw over Texans in America multiple times, but he always does it about four or five years away from reelection and then come reelection time, no, Herb, I saw John Cornyn on Fox News and he was wearing a cowboy hat. I'm going to vote for him. That's what we've had. Stupid idiots and lazy morons in the GOP primary. Voters in Red States. That has been our condition and that's why these guys have gotten away with it. That's the bad news. The good news is we are done being morons. Very clearly the GOP red state primary voter is getting more motivated to get off his butt and turn off the friggin cable news programs that have these goobers on every night. Do your own research and go vote out United States Senators when they screw you over. If we are making these guys afraid, if we are getting them to retire, if we're beating them in primaries, then what's going to happen? It's going to take some time. What's going to happen is that small cabal of GOP traders, they are going to be phased out and bounced out and we might in 10 years, who knows, 20 years, we might just wake up one day and actually have a legitimate anti communist party in Washington D.C. and if that is the case, this country is going to radically change for the better. Guys like John Cornyn, they'll vote with you 90% of the time and they love to write those ads. Or I vote with Trump 90% of the time. But then you have a Uvalde school shooting and the communists want to grab for guns like they always do so they can disarm you and shoot you in the face one day. But they can't do that all on their own. They need some sort of a GOP here to step up and make it bipartisan. And of course they found John Goober Cornyn to step up and do gun control with him. And John Cornyn agreed to do it when Mitch McConnell asked him to do it because John Cornyn thought the GOP primary voter in Texas is stupid and lazy like he's always been. And he thought he could get away with it. And that we proved to the entire United States Senate that you cannot get away with that anymore is a really, really, really big deal. It's much bigger than one Senate seat or Ken Paxton or anything else. Sending a message to the low t GOP that we will take scalps when we are betrayed is a very important development. I'm very excited.
Megyn Kelly
Oh awesome. I feel inspired having listened to that. When you say stupid idiots it reminds me of my nana. She used to call everybody a stupid jackass. Stupid jackass. Talarico is worried. I agree with you. He is not going to win. There's no chance these Texas voters are going to vote for Talarico and he appears to be realizing that as he tries to reverse himself on everything. Here's what he told CBS News on Wednesday. I'll just give you. I don't know, let's play the better one. There's two, there's, there's two that are so good. Let's go to slot 20 in 2021.
Jesse Kelly
In a speech during debate over transgender issues, you said God is non binary. What did you mean by that? Well, you know, I think I was being intentionally provocative with that statement. But what it means is that God
Domeri Sonoiki
can't be defined by human categories.
Jesse Kelly
The apostle Paul in his letter to
Domeri Sonoiki
the Galatians says that in Christ there
Jesse Kelly
is neither male nor female. I'm always going to stand up for Texans who are being picked on by the most powerful, most corrupt politicians in the country. And I'm going to continue doing that in this race and hopefully in the US Senate.
Domeri Sonoiki
You call it intentionally provocative?
Jesse Kelly
You regret describing it that way or talking about God that way? I, there are some statements that I've made that I, that I certainly regret.
Domeri Sonoiki
There are statements that I've made where
Jesse Kelly
I've missed the mark.
Megyn Kelly
I'll be the first to admit that.
Jesse Kelly
But Ken Paxton is intentionally clipping my cringy comments to distract from his career of corruption.
Megyn Kelly
Oh, it's a distraction. He also now revised his. There are six sexes. That's what he said, sexes. And now he's revised that to know, okay, there's only, there's only two sexes. And now he says his campaign runs on barbecue when he literally is on camera just a few years ago saying his campaign was all vegan and it was important for the environment and for the treatment of animals to stay vegan. I mean, this guy is Texans. They are not, they're not dumb. And they saw, they're going to see right through him, are they not, Jesse? I mean, this like, it's all on tape. That's part of his problem. It's all the earlier statements are all on tape.
Jesse Kelly
Yeah, this is, this is going to fail. This, it's going to fail because once again, Democrats really miscalculated. They, they're constantly trying to come up with some sort of a normal looking skin suit that they can put on their radical commie nut jobs. They actually want in. They're trying to find new ways basically to lie at all times. This James Talarico is a perfect example of this. He's going to get there. If he were to ever get there, he would ram through every single America hating communist policy humanly possible. That's not the values of the state of Texas. So how are we going to worm this little weasel into Office. Well, Christianity as a skin suit is a wonderful, wonderful opportunity for these communists. And this James Talarico is a guy who's been, and he's been in the state legislature here forever. He's been doing this forever. That, hey, I'm a Christian, just like you. Anyway, you should be gay. He's been running this same game for a really, really, really long time. And the problem is you can get away with that in some, you know, state house district in the state of Texas that's super blue. You're not going to get away with that statewide. If there's going to be a Democrat who actually wins a statewide race in the state of Texas, it's going to have to be the kind of Democrat who would never be allowed in the Democrat Party today. A legitimate Blue Dog Democrat probably actually does attend a real church that doesn't have a lesbian pastor. Probably somebody who's legitimately a cowboy, maybe even pro life. Something you're going to have to, if you were a Democrat, you would have to sacrifice a lot of the things you believe in to get a Democrat elected in the state of Texas. This modern Democrat Party is not willing to do that at all. So they dragged this poor goober, this Dudley, out of somewhere and they're going to watch him get creamed in November. It's going to be glorious.
Megyn Kelly
Do you, I mean, the Democrats are keep, they keep saying all the Republicans are going to have to spend all this money down there. And the Republicans seem to be saying they're going to spend all this money down there. I wonder, Jesse, because how are, like, how else do they get Talarico across the finish line in their minds without completely annihilating Paxton and trying to rehabilitate Talarico in the minute?
Jesse Kelly
We have. No, they're going to. They're going to. They are. They're probably going to raise him a fortune. They're going to spend him a fortune. So Republicans are going to have to raise a fortune as they always do. Ted Cruz had to raise a fortune against Beto because Beto raised a fortune. Democrats are spending money in Texas trying to win these races. Paxton will raise the money. Paxton will win. I'm not stressing about the race at all. Don't be wrong. We're going to have to run and run hard, but there's no way. There's no amount of money that can rehabilitate the bad video that's out there about Talarico. And we probably don't even have it all yet. There's always a new one right.
Megyn Kelly
There is no way. There is no way. The money. There's not enough money to rehabilitate that. Here's just quickly, can we run slot 11? Run it quickly. This is the New Mexico Democrat governor.
Gayle King
If women, Democratic women just show up
Megyn Kelly
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Domeri Sonoiki
Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. I think people in LA want change, you know, I think they really want some. I'm in LA and a lot of people in LA want some change.
Megyn Kelly
Well, let's hope you're right. I mean, I'm not sure because if you add together the. The other leftist and Karen bass, they've got 2/3 and Spencer has one third. So that's the bad news. But the ad campaigns are actually very powerful. Here's one. This is what? One that you made for Spencer Pratt. We'll play at Sat 37. My daughter, she's sick. Spencer Pratt is the common sense choice for Los Ang. Just look around. The city is a mess and our leaders have failed us. Homelessness, crime, drugs, everything is worse under Karen Bass.
Jesse Kelly
This is bad. She's caught the Pratt. How did this happen?
Megyn Kelly
We restrict her media diet. New York Times, msnbc, npr, maybe CNN if we're feeling frisky. Something must have slipped through.
Jesse Kelly
Does she know anyone, anyone at all who thinks for themselves?
Megyn Kelly
I don't know. I don't think so. What is this?
Jesse Kelly
It starts with a mild cough and then next thing you know you hate seeing homeless drug addicts inject near kids. It's very contagious. I'm going to prescribe four doses of NPR every hour on the hour. Two doses of the New York Times and five doses of the LA Times.
Megyn Kelly
Why was Karen Bass in Ghana while the city was burning six doses.
Jesse Kelly
Six doses of the Ladies Times. We'll have to hold her in quarantine with the others for a few days.
Domeri Sonoiki
It's protocol.
Megyn Kelly
And now the doctor's coughing like he's getting it. That's very clever. Thank you. By the way, just to put some numbers on that, it's the latest UC Berkeley LA Times poll. It shows Karen Bass at 26%, Nithya Raman at 25%, and Spencer Pratt at 22%. Among likely voters, Nithya Raman and Spencer Pratt each surged by 8 percentage percentage points since the March survey. Bass stayed flat. So what kind of reaction are you getting to these ads?
Domeri Sonoiki
Well, yeah, people. I mean, it's really interesting because. So my friend Charlie was making AI videos kind of in February, and his videos were doing really well. And he reached out to me maybe like a month ago and said, hey, we should make a Spencer Pratt ad. And he made one and it went insanely viral. And, yeah, since then I started making some. And, yeah, it's been really interesting. It's been a really fun process. And it makes me think that the landscape for political ads must be not great, because he and I are kind of just. We've been doing this for fun. We like comedy. He's a big movie guy, I'm a big comedy guy. And it was. For me, it was like, oh, I just love comedy. I. I love humor. There's a lot of humor here with the state of la. I mean, there's humor and the tragedy a little bit, but there's a lot of humor. But, yeah, people like, this is the best ad I've ever seen. This is great. And so maybe it might be the future of political ads. Who knows? It's really interesting. And it's the speed and the turnaround, the cost. Look, I live in la. I know some actors feel a certain way about using AI, but the speed and the turnaround and the cost, and for political stuff, you need to be quick, right? When something happens, you kind of need to be on it very quickly. So. So it's been interesting. You know, it's a really, really interesting environment. And, you know, maybe it's the future.
Megyn Kelly
Stephanie, on the other hand, we've got Chelsea Handler weighing in. She's trying to counter Dominari in her Instagram basically every other day. Here's the latest submission in part SOT 33. Oh, hi. If you're seeing this video, this is a reminder that a straight white male, former reality star that has no Previous experience in government should not be a legitimate political candidate. Have we learned anything yet? The bar is on the fucking floor, people, and I need you to jump over it. Okay? Thank you. Have a nice day. As she's pouring herself yet another drink. On top of that, we've got Jane Fonda Stephanie weighing in, and she's sadly giving her much coveted endorsement to Mayor Karen Bass. Fellow Communists, stick together. Your thoughts on it?
Stephanie Tyler
I know people joke about, like, repealing the 19th, and obviously I'm joking too, but when I see this, I'm just like, what are we doing? Chelsea Handler? I feel just the worst takes lately. I don't know if you saw the stuff on the roast too. And then kind of Tony Hinchcliffe went after her, which I loved, because I feel like she just says things.
Jesse Kelly
Things.
Stephanie Tyler
She just says things, and nobody ever pushes back. Nobody corrects her. Yeah, I. I don't know. And the margarita and just all the stuff that she's been doing lately. The single and the abortions and, like, this is our role model. And. And. And right. Straight white men are also terrible. Like, that's her. I don't know. Chelsea Handler thinks anti racism is, like, just screwing every black guy that you can find. I don't know.
Jesse Kelly
That's all she talks about.
Domeri Sonoiki
Well, 50 Cent, for sure. Well, it's interesting. I feel like there are certain people who feel stuck in, like, 2018, you know, 2018, 2020. When, like, you know, SIS is like a slur. And I just don't think that works anymore. It's 2026. People even, you know, even Barack Obama, even, like, people have been like, you know what? The whole super. I don't want to use the word woke, but just cancel y. And just the identity stuff of tearing people apart doesn't really work. It's not smart. It doesn't work politically. Right. Trump got reelected with bigger margins. And so, yeah, it just seems she's stuck in the past. Like, the whole, oh, he's a woke. Also, what's she gonna tell her son, right? If she has a son, I mean. Well, she'll probably have a son with a black man, but assuming she doesn't, what would she tell her son if he's white and straight and cis. Should he.
Megyn Kelly
There won't be a. Yeah, he can't abort. She loves. She loves being childless. Here's that infamous video of. Of her original day in the life of a childless woman. She's leaning in, guys. SOT35. I wake up at 6:00am I remember that I have no kids to take to school, so I take an edible, masturbate, and go back to sleep. I wake up at 12:30pm and get ready for a busy day of doing whatever the the. I feel like I put on my most impractical and stylish shoes. Since I won't be chasing a child around the grocery store. I go to my fave spot in Paris to grab a croissant. I do a meditation sesh on the plane since I have no screaming kids, allowing me all the time in the world to become enlightened. Obviously a bit tongue in cheek, but this is truly her ideal. There is no sweet, sweet baby face in her life to stare adoringly at her in the morning when she gets him out of the crib. And there never will be. She's past childbearing age now and she's loving it. Like she. She wants everyone. It's the old. I used to say the motto of New Yorkers when you move there was, welcome to New York, where we're miserable and we want you to be, too. That's. That's the motto of childless, angry women like Chelsea Handler, who really, really doesn't want us voting for Spencer Pratt. Here's one other thing. He responded to her in his own quick bit. Here it is.
Jesse Kelly
I'm fine with not getting that vote. I don't think she's a mom with kids going to the park. I keep saying, you don't have a kid in LA right now. You may not be as concerned about your kids inhaling fentanyl, smoke at the swing or stepping on a needle. I don't think she has a dog. Maybe she doesn't have a dog because these dogs are even ODing from smelling fentanyl at the parks, so. Or licking it. It's insane.
Domeri Sonoiki
You know, here's what people forget.
Jesse Kelly
I get a thousand videos a day
Domeri Sonoiki
all across Los Angeles.
Jesse Kelly
Most of them I can't post because it's naked.
Domeri Sonoiki
Drug addicts, people are having sex on the side.
Jesse Kelly
Meth addicts, having sex on the sides of the street where kids are going in the car to school.
Megyn Kelly
I mean, you tell me, Domillari, because you live in la, is there any chance that that reaches liberals who always vote Dem?
Domeri Sonoiki
It's tough. It's difficult, I will say. I mean, he's telling the truth about L. A. I remember. So I had a friend who. She moved to New York for like a year, and she had this loft in New York, and it was really beautiful. And I remember thinking when I, you know, when I get My next place in la, I want to get a loft. And the only lofts are downtown. And you go downtown. And it's true. Like, there's certain things that you think are exaggeration. You know, I. I'm very skeptical of any media. And so I used to think, you know, for example, when Fox News would say that San Francisco is full of these zombie drug addicts. I went to San Francisco for the first time in maybe 10 years. This was maybe two years ago. And it was true. It looked like that in la. I mean, if you go to skid row, just go like, it looks like that. And I think the idea of he doesn't have experience and this and that, that is a reflection of how bad it's gotten. Right. Like that people really didn't give someone a chance who is a reality star, not a politician. It's gotten that bad. And also to not have experience, I mean, if you look at the people who do have experience, where they've gotten us, it's like, well, how good can having experience really be?
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, I mean, it's amazing. Like, with all due respect to Jane Fonda, I think she's 86 years old. She was the biggest advocate against our troops and America in the Vietnam War. She behaved totally shamefully. And this is the person that we're gonna trot out now. This is like the best celebrity endorsement for Karen Bass. I mean, I'm. I don't. I'm not. I'm not feeling that even for LA voters. Here's what Harry Anton reported, the Data Guru on CNN, Stephanie, on Harry Anton's chances sat 32.
Jesse Kelly
But if you look at the prediction market, you look at the cash prediction markets, his chances are up significantly, up significantly over the last few months. You know, you go back a few months ago, February 26th, he had just a 7% chance. What is that? That's five plus two now. It's up like a rocket. Look, chances are he still won't be the next mayor of Los Angeles. But what there's a pretty decent chance of, it's now up over a quarter, 27% chance. So those who dismiss Pratt's chances, well, you got another thing coming because he's got a realistic shot of winning this.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, those are Spencer's chances, not Harry's chances. But this is reminding me, Stephanie, of the lead up to 2016 and what all the media would say about President Trump. He really doesn't have a chance. He's. He was getting crushed in the polls. If you read the polls, like, there's no chance, you know, like, okay, here's something like prediction markets, and it's looking better, but, like, is he's not going to be the next mayor of L. A. Until he is.
Stephanie Tyler
Yeah. I think people are afraid to say what they actually think. Obviously, that's been an issue for a while. Nobody wants to admit that they want to vote for this evil, straight white man who is a Nazi, as Chelsea Handler calls. Calls them. And then. And I think at the same time, if you live in these areas and you want to go get a coffee and you're walking down the street and you're literally stepping over homeless people and you see their dogs tied up to fences, it's like, I don't have to live like this, actually. And there's a person who's running who's saying that he will allegedly fix these problems. Why would I not give that a shot? Because clearly what's happening isn't working. Karen Bass, not working, not working out. Anybody who says that she is like, I mean, Adam Carolla has the stupider liar heuristic, and I feel like he needs to update that as well to include pussy. Because if you say that what she's doing is working, you're either stupid, you're lying, or you're just a huge pussy for not admitting what the. The obvious, I guess. I don't know.
Megyn Kelly
You're.
Stephanie Tyler
Because they do.
Megyn Kelly
They like. I think Adam will accept your challenge. Knowing Adam, I think he'll like that a lot. Here's. Here's one person who is telling it like it is, which is not surprising. He's found his political coverage or courage over the past 10 years. And he's also a friend, and I admire him. Dennis Quaid weighs in. Watch.
Domeri Sonoiki
Dennis, what is your take on the current LA Mayor race?
Jesse Kelly
Their race? Spencer Pratt. Go, Spencer Pratt.
Domeri Sonoiki
And why?
Jesse Kelly
Why? What are you talking about? Why? Just look around, man. Why?
Megyn Kelly
That's the best response. Dominary. Just laugh, right? Hello. Have you visited L. A?
Domeri Sonoiki
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
It's interesting.
Domeri Sonoiki
I have friends, you know, across the political spectrum, and I have some friends who are very. Have very strong ties to Karen Bass, and one of them messaged me about my ads, and he didn't say anything pro Bass. He said he was just anti Pratt, which tells me that it's hard to make a case for the status quo. It's very hard to make a case for the status quo.
Megyn Kelly
Let's go up a level from mayor to governor in the state of California, because that race, too, is well underway, and there's a New poll out from same New York Times. Now it is interesting. You've got Javier becerra, the former HHS chief under Biden, leading the pack at 25%. Only the top two go on to compete in the general election and the elections Tuesday. Right on. Coming up for this. So Javier becerra is at 25. Steve Hilton, our friend, is now in second place at 21%. The billionaire Tom Steyer, who says all boys need to be able to compete in girls sports or the girls are mean. He's only two points behind Steve Hilton at 19%. The other Republican, Chad Bianco's, at 11. Sadly, Katie Porter is now in fifth at 7%. I don't know what's wrong with people. Why don't they keep it fun for the rest of us? Doesn't look like she's going to be able to pull it out. Really hope Chad Bianco gets out. With all due respect, Sheriff, respect your work, but we got to get a Republican over the line and it's not going to be you. So it would be wonderful if we could get those 11 going to Steve Hilton just to make sure Republicans have a sane choice in this general election. The RCP average with that poll included now shows Becerra at 24, Hilton at 22, Steyer at 18. And everybody else is in, also ran. So I mean, if I'm honest, adding up the Dem vote here, you got ber at 24, stier at 18, which is 42%. You add in porter, 8, that's 50%. And Mahan, you're, you know, you're over 50% for the Dems. And that would leave the Republicans with at best 22 plus 10, which is 32. So I mean, are we. Is this fool's gold gold for Steve Hilton? Stephanie, you know, the thought of having a Republican governor of the People's Republic of California as bad off as it is, is it fool's gold to think he could actually do it.
Domeri Sonoiki
It.
Stephanie Tyler
I have not been following this closely enough to have an educated opinion on it, but I do. I just can't imagine that they would let a Republican win. It feels impossible.
Megyn Kelly
I know.
Stephanie Tyler
It just. It feels impossible.
Megyn Kelly
But Steve Hilton is so charming. He's so smart, he's so earnest. I don't know. Domari, what do you think? Do people talk about Steve Hilton in a way that they don't talk about Spencer? Spencer's more in your face. Steve is like a happy warrior. He's so likable, like he's charming. What's the buzz on.
Domeri Sonoiki
It's tough. All the buzz right now is, you know, Spencer Pratt. I don't hear much about Steve Hilton. And you know, it's California is just, it's California people. Like all the zany, you know, I grew up in Texas and all the zany things you hear about California about, you know, just, oh, you don't feel good, don't go to school and I'm raising my, my kid, you know, just, just, just strange, just very strange things.
Megyn Kelly
Those are all.
Domeri Sonoiki
I mean, it's true. And so it's toug it happening, but stranger things have happened.
Megyn Kelly
Well, let's just get him over the line. So he's one of the two. That's the main thing right now. I want to keep going. One of the big stories this past couple of days has been the Freedom250 celebration and the bands who've been booked for this gig. This has been a disaster from start to finish. I GUESS There are two different organizations. There's the America 250, which has like a group of congressmen and others who have been working for a long time trying to get like together a celebration for our 250th anniversary. And those folks are doing their thing. But then there's the Freedom 250, which is Team Trump trying to line up a celebration for the 250th, but also for Trump's birthday and whatever. One sounds a little bit more political than the other. Well, this is the Freedom 250. The Trump group, which just announced, they tweeted out on Wednesday, just announced the lineup for the Great American State Fair, which is I guess what they're calling it. And it's bringing the hits. And they list the following musical acts. Martina McBride, Young MC, CNC, Music Factory, Vanilla Ice, Milli Vanilli, the Commodores, Morris Day and the time Florida Bret Michaels and they say and many more. Well, everyone, everyone responded by laughing at it. I couldn't find, I tried to find somebody defending it. Like I went to the Republicans who I follow on X and trust me, I follow thousands of them. They were all ripping it too. No one was impressed. It may sound mean, but it's true. No one was impressed. Everyone thought this was kind of a joke. How is Milli Vanilli isn't even a real act really. They're the only band ever to have their Grammy revoked because they lip synced to somebody else's singing on their girl, you know, it's true song. And by the way, one of them is no longer even with us. He died of a drug overdose. So there's only one left. Like, why is Milli Vanilli frontlining anything? With all due respect to Vanilla Ice, it's like. Like, I lived in the 80s and the 90s. I was there. It was great while it happened, but it's been like a really long time since Vanilla Ice has been like a musical leader or super hot. The guy who's part of cnc, he's actually very entertaining. And I will show you what he's saying. But long story short, everyone has now withdrawn except for two. Florida is holding the line. And so is the guy from the. Oh, sorry. Vanilla Ice is still in. And so. And maybe the guy from cnc, which I'll tell you what he's saying. Cnc Music Factory. The guy who's like, things that make you. Make you go that. Things that make you go home. That act. He's sparing no words. He basically is thinking about not doing it because he didn't realize it was a Trump thing. But he's so pissed at the pressure that everybody's putting on him to cancel because it's a Trump thing that he might do it anyway. But you tell me how this went so poorly, Stephanie, and whether. Whether these acts are now doing the right thing because they're all coming out with these statements saying, I didn't realize it was a Trump thing. Even Brett Michaels is like. And he's the front man for Poison. He's like, I thought this was for veterans. It's apparently not. I'm out. And by the way, now we're getting, like, death threats. And I'm not doing anything that's going to endanger the audience. Audience or my band. So I'm piecing out. It just seems like this was handled poorly from the start.
Stephanie Tyler
Yeah, this is a tough one for me because the whole thing seems like a joke. I mean, the lineup, as you said, is ridiculous as is. And then everybody pulling out, it's just like, oh, no. All of the washed up musicians from 2001 and earlier don't want to do it anymore. I mean, I just. I think anybody who caves to. To either mob. I won't use the word I keep using. I have to think of something else to call them. It's just like.
Megyn Kelly
It's very cowardly.
Stephanie Tyler
Yeah, it is. It's weak.
Megyn Kelly
Why?
Stephanie Tyler
Why do you care? It's a show. First of all, you're getting paid to go perform. That's your job.
Megyn Kelly
Right?
Stephanie Tyler
Like, you can't go do your job. It's our 250th birthday. And I feel like these people don't know you can love America and hate Trump. You don't have to. It's not like you can do both of those things if you want. I used to have crippling tds and, you know, like, watching CNN and all this is like, yeah, he's bad. He's doing all this bad stuff. And then you start to listen. It's like, it's not actually all bad. They're, you know, like, he's not perfect, but it's not all bad. And, you know, I can still look at other pieces of the puzzle without having to just, you know, oh, Trump's involved. If you do this show, you lost a fan and, like, Martina McBride, like, I can't lose my fans. Like who?
Megyn Kelly
Sorry, I. I know it's pathetic. I didn't know you had the tds. It's very hard to get out of the TDS once you have it. I congratulate you on your. On your journey of healing. I've had much better way.
Domeri Sonoiki
You know, we've all had it away. One point. You know, it's. It's, you know, it's. Can be bad.
Megyn Kelly
You know, I don't know if you had it. I don't. I don't think it's. If you have true tds, I don't think it's recoverable.
Domeri Sonoiki
That's fair.
Megyn Kelly
I think you might have been dabbling in it. You know, you might have been like, TDS adjacent. But I, I don't believe it. I mean, first of all, you're both too good looking to really have tds. I mean, most of the TDS are unattractive people, let's be honest. And you guys are not. So we'll see. This guy speaks for me. I actually didn't know his name. Forgive me. Freedom Williams, who is the lead singer of CNC Music Factory. But in a very profane. I mean, you're worried about the P word. Stephanie, take a seat. Okay? Because Freedom Williams makes you look like a Pollyanna. And me too, for that matter. He is not having it. He. He. Apparently this is delivered from his toilet seat, which he reveals late in the sound bite. But he is not having the blowback and warning because there's the N. A lot of the N word in this, among others. Here we go. Top 28.
Jesse Kelly
I don't give a.
Domeri Sonoiki
About Trump.
Jesse Kelly
I don't give a. About Trump family. I don't know the.
Domeri Sonoiki
I'm from New York.
Jesse Kelly
I know. I know the type of anarchy. He. He creates. But the day I let you tell me what to do is the day I die. I want to make that crystal still clear. Listen, I will vote for Genghis Khan, Hitler, and I've been the terrible before. I let you tell me what to
Domeri Sonoiki
do so y' all can suck my dick with that.
Jesse Kelly
Don't do a show for Trump. I don't give a about Trump, but I also don't give a about you either. You keep pushing me. I do the show in North Korea, pissing on a American flag, smoking a Cuban cigar, drinking Venezuelan wine, playing golf with Kim El Joon with an Iranian on my lap while Trump's standing there with his dick in his hand.
Domeri Sonoiki
That's how I.
Jesse Kelly
That's how much of a. I give what you think. You can't cancel me cause you don't exist, hero.
Megyn Kelly
That's it right there. That's the only way to respond.
Domeri Sonoiki
Yeah, I mean, I feel like people have to remember that people's memories are very short. I think Snoop Dogg and Nelly have performed it. Maybe not Trump focused things, but Trump adjacent things, like with the inauguration. People's memories are very short. I understand. If you're an artist, you don't want to lose fans. People will boycott you. In the black community, people have been. There's the group tlc, one of the singers from there. People have been going through her likes and saying she supports Trump. And look, I understand wanting to protect your income, but people have very short memories. And on the other hand, from an organizational perspective, they could have picked a better lineup. They could have paid people more, they could have announced it closer. It seems like it was poorly run. There's a lot going on here.
Megyn Kelly
And there should have been zero doubt left with any of the artists about exactly what they're performing at and what affiliations it had. I have my own theory, which is I actually don't think this is fear of a backlash for getting too political or being in favor of Trump. I think they saw the universal reaction to this lineup as, I'm sorry, pathetic. It was a very negative reaction across the board. And they said, oh, my God, I can't be a part of that. Like, everyone's looking at each other thinking, you're the one they're talking about when they say it's pathetic. You're the one they're talking about when they say it's lame, not me, and I can't be associated with you losers. Meanwhile, it's like, was it. I don't know. But that's what's happening in my view.
Domeri Sonoiki
Yeah, all the Commodores. The Commodore is there, you know, legit.
Megyn Kelly
They were legit in their time, but they're, I mean we're, they're a little long in the tooth now. You know, it's like we're little, little. It's not exactly like, you know. Well, I was gonna say booking Taylor Swift, but that's, that's probably too far. Before we go to break, I mentioned that they're calling this the state fair. This has nothing to do with the state fair. But state fairs generally are places that you should not go on roller coasters because they construct those things in about a day. And then kids get on them and put their risks, you know, their, their lives in the hands of people who, you know, may or may not have the skills to put this shit up. Well, I've got to show you this because I've got it. I've got to get. I was shocked by it and I sent it to my whole team and I can't stop looking at it. In Galveston, Texas yesterday on the Iron Shark roller coaster at Pleasure Pier, there was a malfunction. This thing is a hundred, has a hundred foot drop. It's like a huge tower. A crane extended all the way, barely reached the people in trouble. The car, the roller coaster car going up, got it, got stopped. Something happened with the ride which malfunctioned and its signal is to stop altogether when something's gone wrong. So they were stopped almost on their backs like they're kind of upside down. I don't even know how to explain it, but if you look, if you think of like a straight up and down vertical tower, they're like bottoms and their feet are facing the tower, their heads are facing out the other way. They're horizontal and they were hanging there. I guess all told, it was about three or four hours until they could get that crane up there. These are middle schoolers and some high schoolers. They're on a school trip. One by one they got unstrapped by the rescue workers from this hanging position and brought into the bucket of that crane. As of now, they're still saying at the. The chief operating officer of Pleasure Pier says it's unknown what triggered the emergency stop. I, I, I'm not sure how 8th grader recovers from that or whether I could ever go on a ride quite that dramatic. I, at this point in my life, I only, I, I will go on some but the ones I have to stay upright. I, I don't, I'm not flipping Over. I'm definitely not going on anything that has the word tower in it and certainly not one that's got a hundred foot drop. So what say you two? Do you, Are you big into the amusement park situation and would you still go on the Iron Shark this summer, Stephanie?
Stephanie Tyler
Oh, no, there's no way I'm getting on anything like that. I don't do carnivals. Mostly it's the crowd that's drawn to carnivals, but, but I'm not getting on anything like that. No, thank you.
Megyn Kelly
I don't know. So many millions of Americans put caution to the wind and go on those rides constructed by carnivals. You know, even though they're like fly by night, you know, forgive the word, but erections, that's their fly by night, you know, and I used to go to them all the time when I was a kid and I never got hurt. Thank God. This one's not a fly by night. This is a genuine amusement park. And yet you see these problems too, every summer. And look at this. I mean, these people are like minutes away from an absolute tragedy. You're putting your whole life in the hands of that crane operator. Can you imagine how scary it was when they unbuckled. They're over water for the listening audience when they unbuckled you and you fell into the arms of the crane operator.
Domeri Sonoiki
Oh, I didn't even know they were over a. Yeah, I mean, water at that high, hitting water at that high is the same as hitting Concrete Street. Yeah, no thanks. I, I, you know, I'm sorry. I'm a big, you know, strapping, whatever, black man who goes to the gym my whole life, never a roller coaster person. Just can't do it. Not do it. Why would I pay someone to make me frightened and endangered? I don't like being frightened. I don't like being in danger. I, I like being comfortable. So, yeah, count me out.
Megyn Kelly
Especially living in la. You just go downtown?
Domeri Sonoiki
Yeah.
Jesse Kelly
Oh, yeah.
Domeri Sonoiki
I don't have a Universal Horror Nights. There's a Universal Horror Nights every day at Skid Row.
Megyn Kelly
You can get it for free. And it's genuine danger, not the fake kind. Well, I've always been a big fan. I'll tell you this. My husband's favorite videos online are the ones where, have you seen these? Where like the people are strapped into the roller coaster and like the, the thing comes down that holds them in and just before it, the ride like drops in some sort of drop tower. The operator's like, oh, wait, no. You're like, oh God, I've got to fix, you know and they're gone and you can hear the oh no, count
Domeri Sonoiki
me out, help me out.
Megyn Kelly
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Stephanie Tyler
All?
Jesse Kelly
Including the wicked book?
Megyn Kelly
Why are we banning the wicked book? Why are we banning To Kill a Mockingbird? I posted a picture. I I don't think so, honey. Of my daughter reading the summer I turned pretty. And you know what people said to me? They shamed me. I don't think so, honey. Don't we know that kids can find all everything on YouTube.com we can give our kids iPads, we can give our kids phones, but you're taking Beloved by Toni Morrison out of our libraries. Guess whose job it is to make sure it's appropriate for your children? The librarians. They are trained. Now, listen, I know I'm biased because my mother was a librarian. She had a cat named Dewey named after the Dewey decimal system. I do think we should name cats after things that belong in the library, but I don't think we should be taking these books out. Leave it up to the librarians. I want my kid to read. Want to know why Books start conversations. Know what? We're not Having enough of in this country conversations. Conversations. I. I don't think so, honey.
Domeri Sonoiki
Oh, my God.
Megyn Kelly
Secondhand embarrassment. This is so embarrassing.
Domeri Sonoiki
She's putting herself out there.
Megyn Kelly
These books. Oh, these books. To Kill a Mockingbird has been removed, I think from two schools curriculum, not from the libraries. There's still. It's still available in the libraries. A couple of schools, we looked into it, have removed it from the mandatory ninth grade curriculum.
Stephanie Tyler
That's it.
Megyn Kelly
Based on that, she's like, you go, girl. I'm the librarian spokesperson. They're in the library. It's in the library. The kids can take it out whenever they want. This is. The left has been lying about this right wing censorship. And she's the daughter of a Republican president. The granddaughter of a Republican president. You'd think she'd know better. I think this is more an attempt to go viral than it is any connection with actual facts. But it's Jenna Bush Hager, so I didn't really need to explain that. Any thoughts on that, guys?
Domeri Sonoiki
It makes me wonder if there's some sort of drug use going on. I mean, she's incredibly animated. I don't know what she's on, you know, Is she like a theater kid?
Jesse Kelly
I don't know.
Domeri Sonoiki
What was that? It was shocking. I think that I feel like she practiced it in the mirror like the night before maybe. Like she clearly just wants to go viral. I don't really understand. Did she know that there's a microphone? Like she was. She was mic. Like she doesn't really need to yell into it. I'm just. I'm kind of concerned. I don't know what's going on there.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, she keeps saying it. I don't think so, honey. And by the way, we did look up that book, the book Wicked, you know, which is based on the. The alternate look at the wizard of Oz from the position of the Wicked Witch of the West. That book actually has been removed in some schools. It's been banned in. In some Utah school districts, in particular, the New York Post reporting the book contains drinking, drugs, sexual assault, prostitution, crime, racism, murder, and. And sex parties. And I was like, well, I mean, that's not great, but like, I'm not sure that's. You should ban it. And then I got to this. Sex parties between humans and animals. Oh, well, I mean, I don't know. That could probably. That could push a book or two off the shelf in your average school library. One of the opening scenes in the book, depiction pits depicts puppets having sex. And when Elphaba is First introduced, she's a ferocious infant who is muzzled after biting off people's appendages. So. I don't know. To each his own. I'm not sure we really have to demand that Wicked be returned to the school libraries. But, yeah, the attempt to go viral is obvious and you could tell it wasn't authentic. She was looking for a moment if
Domeri Sonoiki
she needs a writer. I feel like the, the. You know, we should. We should name cats after things in the library. But we should, like, I could. Come on, call me. We will figure it out. We'll figure it out. I think, you know there's a joke there. I know there's some. There's a joke somewhere there.
Megyn Kelly
Exactly. She's. She can work on it a little bit more. A lot more, as a matter of fact. Moving on. Speaking of cringy, Rosie o' Donnell has had a facelift. Thank God. I'm in favor. I support this. I think she did the right thing. The only real question is why wasn't it done earlier? That's the good news. The bad news, Stephanie, is that she's chosen to update us again on the state of her cold sore. Okay, here's the sound bite. Forgive me. Viewer warning. Stop 40. I have a filter on to try to put fake lipstick on so you won't quite see my cold sore. Strange thing about this cold sore is it never really erupted. You know how they erupt and get a scab. It didn't do that. That doesn't mean I didn't pick it. But no, there was nothing. It was. It's just. It's flat. I know you're not supposed to touch it. Just calm down. It's flat. It's not like it doesn't have anything in it. It doesn't tingle, it doesn't hurt. It's like, oh, my God. Flat blister. That's deflated. I don't know. But I did take all of your suggestions seriously. People left me messages. Oh, Rosie, I think you should die. Definitely use toothpaste and salt mixed together. I tried that. Then I tried a Breva. Then I tried. I tried what everyone has said since you last saw me doing this, you know, because I don't like having it, you know, but then I think people get cold sores. Just live with it. There's a lot worse in life than this. Have you tried not going on camera for the love of God, and sharing it with the rest of us? Stephanie, what are we to make of this? This needy person that was post facelift.
Stephanie Tyler
That was after facelift. Oh, wow.
Jesse Kelly
Yes.
Megyn Kelly
Okay, here's the before and after on the face.
Stephanie Tyler
I guess. I mean, I don't know that I'd say that was worth it, however much that cost, but yeah, I don't know.
Megyn Kelly
Going on one more and she'll have it down.
Stephanie Tyler
Yeah. Going on to monologue about your cold sore that you hate having and you don't want people to see is probably not the ideal way to get rid of the cold sore that, I mean, what's next?
Megyn Kelly
Little updates on her hemorrhoid? I mean, truly, is nothing private anymore? Must everything be shared and documented on Insta?
Stephanie Tyler
Yeah, it's. That's pretty gross. She's.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, she's pretty gross. Dominaria. I don't know. Do we need more updates on, like, the status of, of everything going on with Rosie? How are her scars healing? Maybe she could give us an up close and personal look.
Domeri Sonoiki
Well, I'm sure dozens of people were wondering, you know, does Rosie o' Donnell have a cold sore right now? What does it look like? You know, can I stare at it for, you know, 120 seconds? I'm sure that the world was just waiting.
Megyn Kelly
Hitting refresh.
Domeri Sonoiki
Yeah, not, not, not great.
Stephanie Tyler
Well, and she's like touching it over and over again. That's so nasty.
Megyn Kelly
I know, but she's gonna meet people. She's gonna, like, shake people's hands. Like, great, don't shake Rosie ODonnell's hand and go, don't go anywhere near her face. I feel like, can you imagine living in the house with her and like, trying to pick up a water glass? Good luck. Also in the field of, you know, very interesting comments, though, in fairness to Gayle King, she's nowhere near as weird as, as, as Rosie o'. Donnell. She gave an interview to the sex podcaster gal. I never remember her name, but she's got the sex podcast and she, she decided to sit down with her and decided to go into. There was the time she caught her husband cheating. It was actually a very interesting story. But then she actually was asked about or discussed her alleged the rumors that she's in a romantic relationship with Oprah. She took it on in stop. 42 people literally to the point have made comments that they are like, there's no way this isn't a romantic relationship. I know.
Gayle King
It used to really bother me. I was recently divorced and there was. The National Enquirer did a story about that's the reason for the divorce because they're secretly gay. Number one. If we were gay, we would Tell you because believe me, there's nothing wrong with it. It's just. I prefer a man. I prefer a man. So. So we would tell you and then I would say to her, you've got to say something on your show. Because it's hard enough for me to get a date on a Saturday night and now people think I'm a lesbian. You've got to say something. And she said, no, we should just leave it be. I said, no, you've got to say, she, she said, no, just leave it alone. Leave it alone. So well, that's fine for you to say you have somebody. I don't. So it used to really bother me. And now even today there's still people that say, well, you know, the truth is, I don't care.
Megyn Kelly
Okay, that's one. I'm gonna give you one more. Let's just play it. It's top 45.
Gayle King
But we do have a very unique bond. I got in trouble once when I said, you know, cause I'm single, alert and available. I said, if I could meet a guy that was like Oprah, I be done. And then people took that all out of context, as they often do. I mean, I said, you know, when I died, like to come back as one of her dogs. They travel very well. Alex Cashmere private planes. Sign me up.
Megyn Kelly
Wow. I think that's probably true. I believe her Domin. And I'm not sure it makes anybody look good, but do you accept that they are not in a lesbian relationship and that Stedman is real?
Domeri Sonoiki
Yeah, I accept it. I have some friends who, who I've been accused of being, by random people on the Internet, romantically involved with. I think that, you know, people need friends. You know, people. A lot of people don't have partners, life partners, and a friend is the closest thing to that. So I'm all for it. You know, go ahead.
Megyn Kelly
I think if Oprah hadn't been hiding Stedman for 20 years, people probably wouldn't have been so speculative about the relationship with Gail. But you know, our colleague Maureen Callahan has been on a non stop search for Steadman. She's got her little dogs, Teddy Van Halen, looking for him. And it's really unclear whether Stedman is real at this point anymore or still in Oprah's life. I do think, I accept that they're not lesbians. I don't think Gail is a lesbian. I think she's actually had like her fair share of difficult men in her life, including this guy Stephanie. Listen to this. This story in SAP 43.
Gayle King
The alarm was set, Which I thought, that's strange because you're in here by yourself. You're a big ass grown ass man. He never sets the alarm. And next thing I know, he comes flying out of the room and he's got a towel on. He goes, you can't come in. What do you mean you can't? I can't come in. What are you talking about? He goes, you can't come here. Come in. Someone's here. I go, someone? Like who? There's nobody here. I mean, I was so oblivious. There's nobody here. Get out of the way, Billy. There's nobody here. He goes, really, you can't come in. And so I start searching the house because I didn't believe him. I didn't believe him. I get down and there they are. Or there she is, cowering behind the door in my towel. Alex was a nice bath sheet in my towel. In my towel.
Megyn Kelly
What did you say?
Gayle King
I said, I can't believe that you are here and that you are doing this. I can't believe that you are doing this.
Megyn Kelly
She was your friend.
Domeri Sonoiki
Yes.
Gayle King
And I even said I thought we were friends. It sounded so pitiful. When I opened the door, the alarm went off. And, you know, if you don't shut it off in time, the police come. And they said, hey, oh, my God, it's Gayle King. I was a local news anchor, so I was well known in the local community. Are you okay? I go, yeah, you know, I was coming in. I didn't set off the alarm in time. I'm so sorry. And they said, could I get your autograph? And I'm just thinking, yeah, sure, sure, sure. I wanted to say, could you take out the trash? But I didn't. But I didn't. And I didn't want them to know because I. It's. It's a type of thing that they screw up. But you're thinking, I don't want anybody to know when I haven't done anything wrong.
Megyn Kelly
So I have to say, I give her credit for telling that story because I'm sure for many years that was a tough one to even admit publicly. Now she's well past it, but. But, yeah, I mean, I think a lot of women have been there and the horror stays with them, and men have been there, too, to, you know, find this out. What do you make of Gayle King going on the sex podcast and telling all Stephanie? Is this a public attempt to rehab her battered image after the Blue Origin space flight where she looked absurd and was Demanding for a week that we look up to her and admire her and actually call her an astronaut.
Domeri Sonoiki
Not.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
Stephanie Tyler
I don't know. I. Like you just said. I think so many women, probably almost all of them have been in that situation. So it's not really like, you know, it sucks. And I think we've all been there. I guess the part of the clip that didn't get played is that she didn't. She was going to call the husband of the friend and tell him that she was. Was that the wife was cheating. And. And her husband said, don't do that. They actually have a good relationship. You don't want to ruin their relationship. So she didn't call, and then she called later, and the husband said, she told me you were going to call. And she said you were going to make up this story that you. You came home early and they. They were like, you know, that you misread the situation or something. So that part of the clip, I think, was more interesting because is. That is a little bit naive. I feel like, you know, if you don't. If you're regulated and you're not gonna go crazy, that's one thing. But, like, probably. I probably would have called the husband and said something. So. Yeah. And then she ended up being the crazy one. He. They're both like, psychologists or something. And. And he.
Megyn Kelly
The friend is diabolical.
Stephanie Tyler
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
I'm like, not only did you cheat with your good friend's spouse, but then you go back to your spouse and set up your good friend as a liar. Like, there's no way that marriage lasted. I don't know. I. Look, I always got along with Gail. She and I always got along. She was nice to me when I was. Well, she didn't really reach out to me until she thought I was on the opposite side of Trump, to be honest. But then she kind of went nuts. I mean, truly, like, the astronaut bit, it was too much. She's really very focused on herself and insisting that we see her as the amazing star she sees herself as. When the truth is she got that job because she's Oprah's best friend. That's what's real. I'm sure it's very hard to have that saddled around you, but it's true. And I'm. It seems like being Oprah's best friend has had more benefits to her, and being Oprah's dog has had more benefits than earning things on your own. I don't know. Dominari, what do you think?
Domeri Sonoiki
Well, I will say she looks great. Well, whoever. Or Rosie o' Donnell should find whoever. I mean, assuming Gail is doing extra work. I mean, she looks great. Yeah. I don't know. I think that one thing that was interesting to me is that Oprah has great media skills because Oprah saying don't combat the lesbian allegations is a great. I think that. I agree with that. I think anytime you try to combat something, it just makes it bigger. So kudos to Oprah. And I need a friend like Oprah. If Oprah. If you want some friends, please, I'm right here.
Jesse Kelly
Here.
Megyn Kelly
Well, if I ever get a private plane and have my dogs in cashmere, I'll be sure to invite you both and we can document it and post it. Thank you both. Have a great weekend. Great to see you.
Domeri Sonoiki
Thank you.
Stephanie Tyler
Thank you.
Megyn Kelly
Wow. All right. Well, looking forward to the rest of you weighing in on that. It's pretty remarkable. Like, I can't imagine walking into my house and seeing my best friend in bed with my husband. That would be very jarring. It's unfortunate that happened, but good for her for telling a story because. Because when you hear that kind of thing, you realize stars, they're just like us. Email me meganaganekelly.com and go to megan kelly.com while I have you. You can register there for our American News Minute. It's our once a week email. We send it out in a couple of hours and it gives you behind the scenes pics from the show. We're gonna get some Sean Ryan behind the scenes picks in there this week, which you may enjoy, and an update on all of the new news of the week and the segments you may have missed in the meantime. Have a great weekend. And we're back on Monday with our pal, Emily Jashinski. Thanks for listening to the Megyn Kelly Show. No bs, no agenda and no fear.
Jill Biden’s OBVIOUS Lies, and the Spencer Pratt Momentum
Date: May 29, 2026
Host: Megyn Kelly
Guests: Jesse Kelly, Damilare Sonoiki, Stepfanie Tyler
This dynamic Friday episode sharply critiques Jill Biden’s recent public comments and book, dives into the state of the Democratic Party after the Biden presidency, analyzes election developments in Texas and Los Angeles, and unpacks the culture surrounding viral moments, celebrity endorsements, and internet discourse. Key issues include the fallout from Joe Biden’s health scandals, the unraveling political aftermath for Democrats, and some (hilarious and scathing) takes on contemporary pop culture moments.
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The show maintains Megyn’s signature no-BS, irreverent, and direct style. Panelists blend sharp political analysis with humor, pop culture references, and biting sarcasm, especially when skewering political figures' hypocrisy or mainstream media spin. There’s also self-deprecating humor and blunt language—especially from Jesse Kelly and Freedom Williams.
This episode tears into Jill Biden’s revisionist history around the 2024 Biden debate disaster, documents how the Democratic elite and left-leaning media propped up a failing president, and highlights the subsequent fracturing of party trust. The panel discusses the implications of choosing personal ambition or power at the cost of country and spouse. Elsewhere, the episode pivots to the zaniness of LA and California politics, viral political ads, and celebrity culture—skewering the state of modern discourse, cancel culture overreach, and the increasingly farcical intersection of politics and entertainment. If you like your analysis sharp, hilarious, and unapologetically provocative, this is a must-hear episode.