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Leftists Spin False ICE Shooting Narrative, Grown Men Crying, and Conan O'Brien Slams Political Comics, with Jesse Kelly and Link Lauren | Ep. 1227
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Megyn Kelly is joined by Jesse Kelly, host of “The Jesse Kelly Show,” to discuss the false narrative being pushed by leftists and media outlets about the ICE shooting incident in Minnesota, how lies are radicalizing already unstable people, the gaslighting surrounding the ICE shooting incident, how CNN’s Anderson Cooper and MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow refused to report the facts to protect the narrative, MSNOW pundit Philip Bump literally crying on air about the ICE shooting, the left's focus on revolution over values, new cell phone footage from the ICE officer involved in the Minnesota shooting, what the video reveals about the woman accelerating toward him, and more. Then Link Lauren host of “Spot On,” joins to discuss how hysteria over the ICE shooting in Minneapolis is being used to distract from Governor Tim Walz’s massive Somali fraud scandal, why Republicans should focus on these scandals heading into the midterms, Jimmy Kimmel’s ghoulish and politically charged commentary on the...
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Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show live on SiriusXM channel 111 every weekday at noon East. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly Show. Oh my God, there's so much happening. These leftists have lost their ever loving minds. They're woke, they're giving pronouns, they're talking about how he, this cop should have discerned that the tires were turned a certain way and therefore the car wasn't going to actually run over him even though it had hit him in Minneapolis. I mean, truly, it's insane and it's spreading. And we have so many examples of leftist madness now in response to ice and in Portland Customs and Border Patrol it like all we can do is flood the field in my view, with more officers and really make clear to these people that they have no right to interfere with federal law enforcement trying to clean out their neighborhoods of murderers and child molesters. Get out of the way. Thank God we have this administration in power right now. Trump has been openly on the side of the officer under fire in Minneapolis and J.D. vance, like underdog comes out to just boom, boom, boom take on the media at the White House press briefing room. And it was a breath of fresh air and a thing of beauty. Now of course you're getting the he's even worse than Trump from the the Dispatch people like Tim Miller. He's worse. He's horrible. They're getting ready because they've seen the poll showing that JD Vance is I think at 53% right now amongst Republicans on who's the most likely to be the Republican nominee in 28, no one's even close. So of course it's never too early to lay the seeds of he's even worse. He's, he's more of a fascist. He's, he's, he Hitler on steroids. Um, and then we will get to a shocking, disgusting video out of California involving a man pretending to be a woman in a woman's bathroom jerking off. You can see it in the shadow down below that this wonderful woman decided she would record to prove what was going on in there. And then the confrontation happens afterward with the gym employees, the young woman who recorded it, the tranny in the stall and the woman's boyfriend who is a hero. I'm sorry, but this is what we've been saying would happen all along. They're not in there because they're gender confused. They're in there acting out a sexual fantasy which comes from their auto gynephilia where they get off in dressing like women and then parading around in front of women, which is exactly what Leah Thomas was in my well informed opinion. And the women are supposed to be a part of their sexual fantasies. The video is, is infuriating. It is R rated. We're only going, there's. You don't actually see a body part, but you see the shadow. We will show you an appropriate amount so you can make up your own mind and then move on from the video. But we'll show you the confrontation after in just a bit. There's a lot to get to in just a bit. We'll be joined by Spoton host Link Lauren. But we're going to start today with Fire Jesse Kelly. He's fire host of the Jesse Kelly show on the Megyn Kelly channel now special SiriusXM111. He's part of our MK channel lineup which I'm totally honored to say. And he's host of I'm right. And you can find him on YouTube as well. Essy Kelly DC if your credit card balance is freaking you out after all the holiday spending, I mean, right, I have something that can save you money right now. You could cut your cell phone bill in half by switching to Pure Talk's saver plan. Just $20 a month for unlimited talk text and 3 gigs of high speed data on on PureTalk's superfast nationwide 5G network. And as a veteran led company that cares about giving back to those who serve, if you are active or former military or a first responder, you're gonna save an additional 20% every single month. That's awesome. The easiest way to free up cash flow is to reduce your monthly recurring bills. Start by cutting overpriced wireless and consider switching to PureTalk. Go to PureTalk.com Kelly and make the switch today in as little as 10 minutes. Again, talk, text and data for just $20 a month. That's PureTalk.com Kelly and you will save an additional 50% off your first month. PureTalk, America's wireless company. Jesse, so good to have you here. You of all people need to be here today. The leftist madness is a bit much. There's so many places I could start, but here's I'm going to start on this video, which I found so infuriating. Deb, did you say this is from Portland? This one. The top with the sod 11 is from Oregon. We don't know if it's Portland, but obviously there's chaos in Portland from these anti ICE protesters. This is a video for the listening audience of a leftist woman in her SUV trying to box in an ICE agent who's trying to pull out of his parking spot to go chase bad guys. And she and her band of leftists make it as difficult as they humanly possibly can for this guy to go do his job. And she narrates it. Watch this side. 11. See her blocking him in. We can play. My car's bigger than yours. We can play. Eyes. It's ice. Please help me record. Get behind them if you have a car. If you have a car, please pull behind them. It's ice. Can you pull behind them? It's ice. They're trying to kidnap people. Please pull behind them. Please pull behind them and park, please. And somebody does it. Please park behind them. Can you put your car behind them, please?
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It's ice.
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Put your car there. They're gonna move. Hurry, please hurry. Park your car sideways, please. The ICE agent's trying to get out. He's backing up, doing little three point turns, trying to curve out of this. He gets out, but gets blocked again. She speeds up behind him to block his. The rear of his tr.
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Dumb.
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You're not going anywhere. We have them blocked in, but we need more cars. Look at these losers. Two, three, two of them in the car. Unfortunately, we don't get to see the end of it, Jesse, which I seriously hope involves some pepper spray and some handcuffs. But this is what they're doing to our ICE agents who have families who are out there literally arresting child molesters and taking them off the streets. And this, this woman's calling them dumb bitches and mocking them and taunting them and encouraging her fellow leftists to prevent them from arresting the bad guys in her community. What do you make of what's happening right now.
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There's, there's just so much to get into Megan, when it comes to all this. First we have to set something aside. And I hate to even do that because you and I could sit and riff on this for. And I know it's something to talk about. Let's set aside the paid and organized portion of this. We do have to understand what a large percentage of communist street activism in this country is paid for and organized. It's not organic. It's not always, you know, some, some just naive soccer mom coming out and who watches too much television. So many of these people, at least the ringleaders, are paid and organized. They organize these acts of resistance online. Billionaires, foreign and domestic pay for these things. That's why they show up with freshly printed signs right away. So we have to kind of set that part aside. Let's deal with the people who are actually genuine. Genuine. And maybe that walking ad for antidepressants is genuine. Let's just assume for a moment she is. I actually. And people are going to find this funny because I'm known to be such a jerk. I actually feel a lot of sympathy for her and I feel sympathy for that 37 year old street animal who just got killed by ICE and, and of course her, her wife and everything. And the reason I feel sympathy is because so many of these people are just simply stupid or they're drug addicted or, or can come from broken homes. Broken people generally is what you will find in these street protests. You don't find happy well to do people from solid families good two parent homes, you know, go to church on Sunday. You don't generally find those kinds of people. If you sift through the rubble that is a communist street animal protest. It's the dregs of society every time. It's every scumbag and criminal and nutjob you can find. And I actually find what democrats in the media do to these people, to their minds. I find it to be extremely, extremely evil. On par with picking on the special needs kid in high school. Everyone had some evil scumbag in their school who would do something like that. I'm not even trying to be funny. Everybody knows there was one kid who was so cruel he would do it and he would think it was funny. That's what democrats do to their base all the time with the relentless loop of lies you see on CNN and everything else. Nazi Gestapo. Nazi Gestapo. That. You see that stuff, Megan? Everybody watching, listening right now sees that stuff. Here's that stuff. They roll their eyes. But to somebody who's broken and drug addicted and lost, they hear these things and they believe them and they get themselves spun up to the point that you'll drop your kid off at daycare and then go out and try to over an ICE agent and oh, now I'm dead and I won't ever see the age of 38. I find it to be incredibly sad and I find it to be incredibly evil. The Democrat Party is the party of evil in this country. As much as I despise Republicans most of the time, they really are the party of Satan. The Democrats are. Drives me insane.
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Gosh, you're not, you're not wrong. I saw somebody saying the other day about the woman, the 37 year old woman, Renee, who tried to run over that cop, obviously that she might actually not have known that ICE is arresting murderers and child molesters. She, she genuinely might not have known that. She might have thought that they were there as some sort of militia meant to just arrest American citizens and deport them. Because if you get your news from npr, for example, or Ms. Now, that's probably how you'd walk away looking at this. I mean, just today there's an example of the New York Times headline and the Washington Post headline on this case, you know, of, of this woman being shot to death, this 37 year old. And it's, it paints it all in the most sympathetic, misleading way. It's completely misleading and a lie where they try to suggest that this is just this, you know, sweet lady. Here it is. New York Times by Kenneth Vogel. A New York Times analysis of footage from three camera angles shows that the motorist was driving away from, not toward a federal officer when he opened fire. And then the Washington Post headline, ICE agent was not in the vehicle's path when he fired at driver. Video shows. Oh, well, shockingly, my eyes show something very different, Jesse. But if you are one of these leftists who relies on WaPo or New York Times for your news, you have a very different impression of what went down that day.
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That's what's so frustrating about what you just said. What we just talked about, Megan, is think about the Democrat in your life. Everybody watching and listening has a Democrat somewhere in their life. I always refer to them as a liberal Aunt Peggy, but who knows? It may be your brother maybe, who knows? And think about this. Think about this.
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I have an Aunt Peggy, but she's not that liberal.
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Sorry, Peggy, but think about this. Ask or at least think about the Democrat in your life and think if they believe that Donald Trump, just as an example, called Nazis at Charlottesville, very fine people think about that. Think about the Democrat in your life and think. If they believe that Donald Trump told people to inject themselves with bleach. Now, the reason I brought up those two things is both of those things are available on video. What he actually said, the Democrat line, the Communist line, is an outright lie. And it's not like you have to take Meghan's opinion on it or my opinion on it. You can pick up your phone, everyone's holding one right now. You may be listening to this show on your phone, and you can watch what he actually said, easily verifiable, on video. And yet the vast majority of Democrats in this country, because they live in a world of make believe that is constructed for them by the communist elites in this country, they believe something that is an outright, verifiable lie, not subject to opinion whatsoever. We are dealing with people who are, by all accounts, insane. And I'm not saying that to just be insulting, although I'm totally fine to insult these animals. I'm saying that because we have to understand what we're dealing with. If I cover peanut butter. Yeah, they can't. If I. If I got naked and covered myself with peanut butter and attached wings to my back and went up to the ceiling of this. Of this roof here and tried to jump off, you would call me crazy. Because I believe. I believe I can fly, and I cannot fly. It's verifiable. I can't fly, but I believe all the way I can fly. You would look at me and you would say, this person is insane. He probably can't be reasoned with. He needs professional help. I need to keep my distance, whatever. But you would not say, I just need to have a conversation with him. Well, that has become our political discourse in this country, because the people on the left reside in a world of complete lies that is reinforced day after day after day by Democrats and the communists in the media. And we're at a place where just normal people. You don't have to be some hardcore right winger like me. Normal people are frustrated because you talk to these people and it's like you're talking to a rabid wolverine or something like that. They don't even. They're not even human beings anymore and their eyes are bugged out. I don't know how we deal with it, Meghan, but we have to understand that's what we're dealing with.
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I was just telling the audience, I think yesterday the Day before that, my therapist, God love him, he always says, stay away from crazy, which is a very funny line from a therapist, but it's true. Stay away from crazy. And the problem for these ICE officers is they have no choice but to get right up in the face of crazy. These officers didn't want to have to deal with this woman who ran over. They tried to this officer and did hit him. Notwithstanding what you read in the Washington Post, in the New York Times, they didn't want to deal with her. But she came into this area, she parked her car perpendicular to the oncoming traffic of the road. And then it is their job to remove her so that others are safe and so that they can do their job, which is to pass. That's how this confrontation unfolded. And while others kept telling us that that's not true, she was just there as a legal observer, which is a lie. She's a freaking. She was wannabe poet, and I'm sorry, but not a good one. She was a legal observer. She was there as a paid agitator, or not paid. She might have been paid for all I know, but she was there as an agitator to be the lead, we were told by an eyewitness, in antagonizing ice. And now we know that because on CNN last night, they dropped a video of the preceding moments before the tape that we've all now seen where she accelerates into the officer and he shoots her. Now we've seen what she did in the moments before. First, I'm going to. I'm going to describe. I'm going to let you hear how Anderson Cooper describes it. And it's truly like, gee, who knows? Who knows what we're seeing? No, we know exactly what we're seeing because we can see with our eyes. And we all have seen. Now, the eyewitness accounts that she was parked perpendicular to oncoming traffic. Anderson, this is the video proof of it unfolding before your eyes. Just tell the audience the truth. Here he is.
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CNN has obtained some new video. Again, it's grainy and distant, but it.
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Shows four full minutes leading up to the shooting.
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It shows Renee Goode's maroon Honda Pilot entering from the right there.
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Then 20 seconds later, someone gets out on the passenger side.
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We don't know who or why this person leaves the car.
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We then see her turn and pull.
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Perpendicular across the street, seeming to block.
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The way, but as you see here, leaving room for vehicles to pass by.
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Her on either side.
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Finally, there is this new angle of the federal officer who shot her he arrives. Another federal SUV pulls up as the ICE officer briefly goes back to his car. Then he returns and with another agent grabbing at her door, she starts to move forward again.
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It's hard to see that may reveal. It says nothing about why Renee Goode.
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Was where she was or what she was doing there.
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What says nothing.
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Isn't it so brilliant what they do, though, Megan? Because when it's all on video like these, these scumbag liars like Aniston, Anderson, Cooper, it's brilliant, isn't it? Because it's all on video. And even your liberal and Peggy, as she's done, you know, sniffing her antidepressants, even she can watch video, right? So he can't come out and say she wasn't there. He can't come out and say she was just cruising along and I pulled up beside her and gunned her down. That doesn't work. Right? So what do you have to do if you're in the media, if you're a communist and you're trying to protect the narrative at all times, protect the revolution. You just have to give people a little bit of an off ramp. So instead of coming on the news and saying exactly what she was doing, of course, I mean, we're really not sure. We don't know who's getting out, but she might have been trying to parallel park. She is a woman, after all. They have to act completely lost. Of course, if this was. If this was you, if this was me, if this is anybody else listening who's a normal human being, they would have all the facts. They'd be crucifying you for every hour on the hour on cnn. They would drill down on everything. But of course, because it's an apparatchik who got caught doing horrible things like they always do it. Always. Well, I mean, we're confused. The facts are still coming in. I mean, the video was grainy. We don't. That's exactly what they do. It's really. It's evil. And it could know. To be honest with you, there's no.
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Way it says nothing about Renee Goode, where she was or what she planned to do, except for the fact that she was perpendicular to oncoming traffic. But he points out, cars could go around the front of the back. I guess she needed a bigger truck is what Anderson is pointing. Like her SUV wasn't quite big enough to block both lanes of oncoming traffic. But she sure did try. This is such gaslighting. And here's more of it. Rachel Maddow sat three. I Mean, the key is nonviolent protest. And this woman who got shot in.
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Minneapolis, this mom, you know, she was. She was not doing anything violent. Had she wanted, had she been trying to drive into those federal agents, she would have steered toward them, not away from them.
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Thank goodness we have a video of what happened because otherwise it might have gone unquestioned.
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Oh, my God. Jesse.
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Just the wife and a poet. Megan. Just a wife and a poet on her way to softball practice. She must have slipped on the ice. It's. It. It's terrible what they do. And you know what's really horrible about that is Rachel Maddow with her rhetoric. She. Look, her and Jimmy Kimmel, they're the exact type of elite communists we talked about at the beginning of this show. They will lie to their audiences every single night without end until that person, that broken person at home, whoever they are, finally gets up and decides to go do something about it. And that person will go off and lose their lives. And Rachel Maddow and Jimmy Kimmel, when they do it, won't lose a minute of sleep over the fact that they're the ones who drive that stuff. I am so careful with my audience, as I know you are, to implore them never to do anything, to get yourself arrested, get yourself hurt, get yourself killed, because I dread the day. I pray the day never comes, Megan, where I get some email of my husband, heard you say this, and he went out and got killed or arrested. I think I would retire that day. I would be devastated if I thought the words I spoke hurt a normal person out there. But these people don't. They don't have any hesitation at all. No remorse, no nothing. No. No sorrow for the six year old boy who now has one of his mothers gone. Nothing at all. They don't feel anything. Just soulless.
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Mm. It's incredible to me that they don't, that they'll just lie right to their audience's faces and gin up their anger with absolutely no care for who gets hurt, whether it's their audience or a federal law enforcement officer. And now the new narrative has turned into kind of what you heard Rachel Maddow say there, which is she. She had turned her wheels, Jesse. You see, she backed up. They were telling her, get out of the car, get out of the car right now. And she wasn't. She wasn't complying. She was resisting. And then she tried to flee. She backed up. And then she turned her car and hit a cop. She did hit him. And by the way, his father has now confirmed that on the record with the Daily Mail. The officer's father, he was hit. And now the new narrative has been, well, she backed up. But then when she pulled forward, you can see that the wheels of her car for a split second were turned to the left. And the cop was more to the right, you see. So she wasn't intending to run him down, which, by the way, she would have had he not shot her. He was hit. We see it on camera, but that's the new line. And yesterday on this program, we showed the audience video. It's disturbing, but we're going to show it again of a cop in Baltimore who chased this bad guy into a cul de sac in Baltimore, Maryland, and told him to get out of the car. He pretended he was getting out of the car. She thought she had him, and he killed her. He ran over her with his car. Forgive me. This is the videotape. I'm showing it to you for a reason.
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As the Jeep continued to advance, Officer.
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Caprio got off one shot.
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WJZ won't show the rest, but a.
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Somber jury saw and heard Amy Caprio dying from massive crushing injuries.
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Now, I want. I want the listing audience to know. This cop was on the side of the car, same as the officer involved in the conflict in Minneapolis. She was on, like the front side headlight of it. He's coming at her from the side. He backs up and he rams her. It happens in a second, a second. He goes from stopped to she's dead. With, as you heard them describe, massive injuries. She got one shot off and she died. She died, Jesse. And now it was Will Chamberlain, I think, of the Article 3 project online, who was saying to the people like Rachel Maddow who are focused on the direction of this Renee Goods, front tires pointing to this video saying, you know, maybe she didn't get a look at the tire. She should have. She should have looked at those tires before she, you know, made her decision. She would have seen them pointed at her instead. Like the absurdity of these leftists. Fucking Rachel Maddow, who makes $30 million a year for doing one hour a week in her multimillion dollar mansions that we've shown because she puts them on the air. She wants us to see what a luxury, luxurious life she lives, is going to sit there and second guess this ICE officer who lives, we now know, on the outskirts of Minneapolis in a working class neighborhood. He's married, he's got kids of his own. He's working as a cop. Jesse. He doesn't make $30 million a year for one damn hour and she's going to mislead them about. He should have seen the way the tires were in between her backing up to ran him and hitting him.
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Yeah, that's what they do. I mean it's a vehicle. It's the people say, well, she didn't have a weapon. She had the deadliest weapon of any of them. She had a deadlier weapon than anybody in law enforcement had there. She had a 4,000 pound car. As you mentioned, it happens in an instant. And everybody with even the slightest bit of legal knowledge or law enforcement knowledge knows that you cannot take chances when it's a car. This is exactly why cops will oftentimes do seemingly very dangerous things to get one of these speeding cars trying to get away from the cops off the road. They're not doing that because they watch Dukes of Hazzard too much when they were kids. They're doing that because that 4,000 pound car coming down the highway can kill anybody, lots of people in an instant. I know maybe they didn't educate their communist street animals that that's a deadly weapon because they want them to go out and do terrible things. But it is a deadly weapon. And when you're told to stop, stop. And when you're told to get out, get out. And you don't get to hide behind. I was panicking, I turned my tires a different way. If you don't comply, you are going to die. That is how it works. That's how it's always worked. And for the safety of everybody, including the civilians. That's how it has to work in a society. But of course. No, no, just Rachel Maddows know that.
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Stephen Colbert disagrees with you entirely. This is how he would spin the message you just offered. Listen here.
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So the message from this administration is clear. Only they determine the truth. And when their forces come to your city, obey or die. And if you die, you clearly didn't obey.
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Okay, it's a little out of context.
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It's all on camera. This is, you know what's just something that's funny. I mean, I guess it's not funny, but it is in a way. Funny to me is how many years, how many years, Megan, did you hear the left talk about, well, we want everything recorded. We want body cameras, we want this, that this was a big activism thing on the left. Because of course once the cameras come out, once everyone gets a cell phone camera and everyone has a body camera, then of course that's going to prove that these cops are A bunch of violent nutballs. And racist. Of course, we always have to throw in racist. Very, very racist. They do a lot of very racist things. And since we've had everyone with a cell phone camera and body cameras, what we've discovered is, no, actually we have a bunch of very violent, horrible people in this country who do horrible things. And cops are now routinely put in an impossible situation. And in a blue hellhole like Minneapolis, thank God this guy was a federal officer doing federal things. Because you and I both know in a place like Minnesota, he would be spending most of the rest of his life in prison. Just like Derek Chauvin is. No matter what, they would.
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Derek chauvin him in 60 seconds. Yes, 100%. So the recklessness of these people, right, like this. They truly are painting this Renee Goode like she was a saint. I listened to NPR up first this morning. Normally I cut sots and I play the audience what this crazy leftist podcast does just because it's entertaining and it's an example of a. I even do it. I couldn't go back over it. Literally everything they said was misleading. They didn't even offer the fact that she rammed the officer. It was completely like, oh, this wonderful woman. They literally told us what was on her Pinterest page. Jesse, they were getting into what's on her Pinterest page. Nothing about how she had parked perpendicular, she was blocking the traffic, she resisted arrest, she accelerated into an officer. Nothing. Okay, but knowing that this woman, because this is the one thing the left knows, this woman who was killed, Renee Good, has a six year old child. She has three children. She has one of the youngest of whom is 6. And she left him that day to go do this. And the left would like you to believe this is just sweet mama who left her boy at the daycare to just go about her business, omitting the agitation entirely. And so, but, so, but, but at least the left does know that this woman had a six year old child and that that child's been left an orphan because the father is no longer in the picture. I think the father died a couple years ago. What does this woman do? I think this is Minneapolis, but I'm not sure. We haven't been able to totally confirm that this woman decides to tell this lady to hold her beer and brings, brings her six year old to an ice arrest and leaves him in a car, which we know is dangerous based on what we saw just this week. Never mind the 100 rammings we've seen. Usually illegals who are getting Arrested by ice. Try to unleash on them. In this case it was a Karen. But look at this sod 11B.
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Back up.
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I'm. I'm far enough away. I'm not influenced anything. You live on the street. I don't know. I need you to get in your. No, I won't.
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Ma'.
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Am.
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I need you. Julie. It's my right to be here. I will not one of our cars as well. You were too close right now.
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You were interfering.
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You are going to get out of my face. No, I won't. Tell me why. I'm far enough away from your investigation.
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Step beyond our cars.
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Don't touch me, please. Where's your cars?
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Right here.
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Where's your car?
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All the way. Oh, that's great. That's great.
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Sure.
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Beyond your cars. 20ft right. See that white car? I have a six year old right here. I have a six year old world right here. You're an idiot.
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Child in danger.
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Yes, child in danger. Getting. Get your child off of the scene. This is an active police scene.
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This is all on camera right now too.
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Right here.
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Yes. I'm wonderful.
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I'm very glad for it. Get your child out of here. I can be right here. I'm happy right here.
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Listen to me.
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You have the right to videotape.
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I do. Thank you, sir.
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Listen to me right now. I'm going to listen, but we have someone that's being detained right here. Okay.
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You have a. Tell me where you need me to go exactly.
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I need you to stay.
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Do me a favor.
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Yeah, I will.
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No car seat. Okay. Do me a favor. You can videotape all you like, but you have to stay. You cannot come past that driveway. Okay.
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I'll be right back.
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Thank you. Thank you. Stay at your car though.
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Okay.
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Thank you. Welcome to the video.
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Thank you, sir.
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Do me a favor. My state law. We're policemen too. That child is supposed to be in a booster seat. He's not of age. So make sure you put him in a booster seat because I'd hate to give you a ticket. You can give me a ticket.
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I'd love it. Like, how do you help that person?
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Megan, I. I was reading a book some years ago about East Germany when East Germany, obviously Communist East Germany. And I knew a bit about it before I started reading the book, but just kind of like highlights one of the things that blew me away about East Germany. And it turns out this. The same thing took place in the Soviet Union and China and everywhere else was that husbands would turn in their wives routinely Wives would turn in their husbands, children would turn in their parents, parents would turn in their children. Moms would walk into the Stasi. Hey, I heard my daughter, she's criticizing the government. I thought you guys should know about it. Stasi shows up, takes daughter away in the middle of the night. And I remember thinking, because I mean, my boys, I have two sons, I would die for them a thousand times over. I'd kill for them a million times over. I would, I'd do anything for my boys. I couldn't relate. I still can't understand it. But the truth is there is something about that sick demonic religion of communism that it supersedes family immediately for these people. It's not just that that woman would bring her six year old to a potential violent encounter. She doesn't even know who they're arresting. It could be a serial killer, a rapist, somebody who could come screaming out of that house and hop in her car and take her car away, but none of that would even occur to her. And you know what's weird? None of that would even bother her because she's there. She's now the true mother of the revolution. The child. The child just needs to be a tool of the revolution. That's probably why she brought a bone. He's a nice shield. He'll help the revolution. And I can't understand that way of thinking. Megan, I know how much you love, love your kid. I know you probably can't understand that. I don't want to understand it, but I know that's how it is for these people. The revolution is their everything and everything else, including their children is secondary. Just the tool for the revolution.
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This is such a good point. You really brought that home. I. You're right. Like who that's got a six year old, not in his proper car seat, by the way, that sees law enforcement arresting someone who obviously is potentially a bad guy. You don't know what this is. You don't know why ICE is there. What did he do? Does he have a machine gun? You know, is he going to open fire? You have no idea. Is he going to ram somebody? Maybe your vehicle too, pulls over to the scene with their child in the car. I'll tell you one time the past two years we were walking in the Miami airport, my family on, on the way home from someplace and an arrest went down. They were arresting somebody outside of like the, the bathroom facility and you know, just in the airport as you walk like to your gate and it was a big to do and of course everybody including my kids was like, whoa, what's happening there? What's happening? And. And immediately I was like, let's go. Move. Let's get out of here. Any sane parent recognizes when you've got a criminal and the police, you have a dangerous situation. And at a minimum, get your kids the hell away from it. This woman sought it out, then left her child alone in the car and was gleeful about it. Gleeful. But the same cabal will tell you they're the ones who care about humanity, Children, the innocence. And I'm sorry to bring this to you because every day here on the Megyn Kelly show, we have yet another leftist crying. All right. We've shown the new CBS News anchor Tony do cable, bawling about the fact he didn't get to grow up in Miami where he wanted to because his family moved away. Then we had see what's her name, the new tenant czar for mayor, Zora Mamdani, crying because the Daily Mail decided to ask her questions. Seal Weaver. And now we have Philip Bump, who is a Washington Post columnist who was on the air on Ms. Now yesterday. I'm just going to play the clip for you. Sat 6.
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I mean, I think all this can be very personal.
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Oh, God.
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This is what you did to me, Chris. I have a 6 year old and live TV. Great. Really emotional for me. And you know, this is great.
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You know, what I take away from.
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This is for me, that's the thing that stands out, that this was a family that could have been like mine. And there are a lot of situations, a lot of incidents that have involved.
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Ice, have involved the government over the.
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Course of the past 13 months in which there is resonance for other families in similar ways. And.
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For me, it's hard to think about that family being affected in this way.
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Okay, I have a serious question for you. This sounds flippant, but it's not. Is it the. Is it the plastics that we're all taking in? Is it like too much sunscreen? What's. Why are all the men becoming effeminate and more female, like, in their emotions? I see a man crying on tv unless, like their immediate family member has just passed or a dear, dear friend of theirs, or it's a situation like we had, God rest him with Charlie, where you're watching something horrific that I excuse, but I'm sorry, Jesse. All this, he doesn't know her. He knows that she was an agitator and he. He literally can't control his emotions. I really. Is it, is it. It an environmental thing? Like with the frogs. That's making these guys more female.
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I know that we've lost 50% of our testosterone in 50 years and that they say, according to studies, that we're losing 1% a year. From what I understand. And there's a million different things on this. The main culprit, believe it or not, is the estrogen. The elevated amounts of estrogen that's in women's birth control that is somehow making its way into the water. Somehow. They're not. Why don't you have it out of the water?
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Well, you don't have it. My husband Doug doesn't have it. Like, why are you guys still men?
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That's because I don't drink water, Megan. I stick with whiskey. And so I'm gonna be just fine in the end. But no, look, I don't know whether it's the water supply. I don't know exactly what. Maybe Philip is actually on birth control. Given how the left thinks about things these days, he could be worried about getting pregnant. This is how these people think. I have no earthly idea. What I do know is that as a man, to work up some crocodile tears on television, even if it's fake, and it probably was fake, even if it's fake, is so inherently embarrassing that there's no cause that I would do that for in the world. And if I was asked to, if my boss has told me in no uncertain terms to I would quit on that day, because there's just no way you're going to get me to work that up on camera. And that. The lack of shame sometimes. I know this probably sounds weird, Megan. You can yell at me if you want. Sometimes I admire it that when you look at the ridiculous things these people do without an ounce of shame whatsoever, they just tell a blatant lie right to your face. They'll just. They'll cry on camera. No shame. They'll do these stupid dances. All the dumb dances and the chance in the streets. Every time I look, I always think. I always picture my dad and what my dad would say to me, God rest his soul, if I. If he ever caught me doing something like that. And he would just slaughter me. He would slaughter me. And I don't. I don't know what it is, Megan, but I don't have it.
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This. I'm sorry. Like, this is the kind of man who would cry during sex. Like, Instant ruination. Like, I. This is ridiculous. He doesn't know this person. He knows that she went out there and asked for a confrontation, and still he's like, this is. He's leaning into it the same way that Tony Dokapo was enjoying the fact that he worked up tears over his lost childhood in Miami. Because they think this is like, how to connect with, you know, today's young women. You're not even discussing something, particularly, by the way, you're in news. Philip Bump used to write for the Washington Post. Now he's an Ms. Now contributor. You're in news. You're supposed to develop a little bit of a thick skin, especially as a man. But no matter, male or female, this is crazy town, what they're doing. All right, I want to keep going because there's much more insanity to bring to you over in Philadelphia. They have views on what has happened in Minnesota. Both the crazy ass woke Soro sponsored DA Krasner, Larry and his police chief. Oh, and they're talking real tough, Jesse, against the Trump administration and ICE with warnings about what's going to go down if Trump sends ICE there, which is absolutely his right. I will start with Krasner. Let's watch it. Sat 2.
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If any law enforcement agent, any ICE.
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Agent is going to come to Philly.
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To commit crimes, then you can get the F out of here. Because if you do that here, I.
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Will charge you with those crimes.
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All right?
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You will be arrested, you will stand trial, you will be convicted, whether it's in state or federal court.
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It's my office prosecuting it.
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That's how the law works.
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No, it. No, it is.
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You will do your time because Donald Trump cannot pardon you for a state court conviction. Do you hear me?
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I hear that you don't have jurisdiction.
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National Guard, do you hear me? Military, you're going to jail. If you commit crimes in the city.
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Of Philadelphia, you will be accountable. The law applies to all of you.
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Okay, Good luck with that. I just, I've got to show you the police chief and then get your reaction. Her name is Rochelle Bilal and she's the Philadelphia sheriff.
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I'm Rochelle Bilal, the sheriff for the city and county of Philadelphia, and I say her name. Renee Good.
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Oh, Lord.
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Renee Goode. Good, Renee Good. This should not have happened. But we're here today. Let know that law enforcement professionals, real ones, not the fake made up ice cream. Probably Trump's new army to attack citizens of the United States. Did you hear what I said? No law enforcement professional wears a mask. None. None. Those that come into our communities wearing a mask to commit crime. I thank God for our District Attorney Larry Krasner, who say he's going to Lock him up. And I'm saying now, we are not going to whisk you away for them to hide your identity because when you do it there you getting arrested there. Law enforcement professionals do not shoot at moving vehicles. Not saying fleeing, because she wasn't fleeing. She was getting out of the way.
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Oh.
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Law enforcement professionals do not stand in front of moving vehicles invoking an action that is illegal. No, we don't.
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Tell it to the officer in Baltimore, Maryland. Not, not too far from Philadelphia, really, on the, on the train route. Tell it to her. We do not stand in front of a vehicle and we do not fire at a moving vehicle, no matter whether it's about to run you over and take their parent from their child.
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Couple things make it. And both of these things are completely somber. And I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound like I'm blackpilling. I swear I'm not. But first of all, you know, with all the DEI madness that's been going on in this country for a solid decade now, if not two decades, it's been common for, for most people I know, I've done this a lot. To think that, yeah, there's a lot of that, yeah, they're just hiring this person because she's gay, because she's black, or a woman, or Lord willing, you get the trifecta and you get all. And you're just trying to hire this and that. And we always think that, well, okay, they're going to hire someone for the mail room. Maybe a street cop. Sure. An assistant manager somewhere. We've convinced ourselves that this stuff will at least be held at a, At a manageable level. Surely this stuff won't rise to the highest, most important levels of society. But that's simply not how it worked at all. The truth is, at the. The head of police departments and sheriff's departments and corporations and government agencies and all kinds of things, we have the most low IQ loser scumbags now running critical institutions in this country. And it's frightening when you think about how high this stuff goes. That's one, two. I know you're much more of a student of history than probably I am, Megan. I certainly know your wonderful husband Doug is. But I have not been able to find a historical, Historical example of where we are now as a country. And where we are now as a country is we have hostile foreign city states inside of our border. And I'm not sure how a country deals with that, any country, because I've never seen an example of it. Maybe the best Example would be some city in the Roman empire or the Persians or some city that rebelled inside of its border. Maybe that's the best example I can find. Historically only. It's all over the United States of America. New York City, Louisiana. Minneapolis, Chicago, over and over and over. Seattle, Portland. You can go down the line. Some of our biggest, most important cities. It's not just that they're a little left. Right. It's not just that they see things differently. That's always been the case. They are openly hostile. And the leadership of those cities has declared that the deportation force of the United States of America is illegal, subject to arrest, and that they will send their law enforcement out to fight them. That is. Yeah, Civil war. Ish. I hate to even use that.
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Tim Walsh threatened to do that. He tried. He threatened to do that just the other night. He said if ICE keeps this up, he's gonna send the National Guard out to fight ice. Good luck with that. You're so right. And on your first point about, like, the DEI hires and you're kind of banking on maybe traffic cop at the best. No, it's. That's not what's happening. This is the police commissioner for Minneapolis, for Hennepin County, Minnesota, where this thing went down. Her name is Irene Fernando. You don't have to listen to much. It happened this morning. To figure out what's going on with this lady. Watch. I'm Henpin County Commissioner Irene Fernando, but you can call me Commission. I use she her pronouns. And I'm a very, very proud child of immigrants, the youngest woman to ever serve on the Hennepin county board. I'm the first Filipino American elected in the state. And I'm Hennepin's first board chair of color in our 100. Oh, my God. United States. Due process means that justice is pursued through legal action, credible investigation, and courts.
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Not through guns, murder, and violence on our streets.
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Jesse. Everything. It's every box.
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It's at the highest levels, Megan. And that's what's scary. It's it. And you know what? It's even more frightening when you talk about it like this. It's in law schools, as you well know. It's in medical schools. Everyone's seen the video. Or at least if you haven't, I highly recommend you go look it up at Columbia during medical school graduation. We're talking elite. That was Columbia. The kids are reading some communist apparatchik about how I am going to. When I. When I do medicine, I'm going to take into account the historically disadvantaged I mean, the biggest bunch of commie gobbledygook you've ever heard in your life. We lied to ourselves that this stuff is so insane and would be so damaging that yes, they'll let the animals have some fun with this role or that rule, but surely they'll never rise up into the most critical positions. But that's just. Just not true. And again, in blue areas, in blue states and most definitely blue cities, they control everything, as you know, Megan, they are the judges, they are the DAs, they're the cops. At least the top cops. The street cops may be okay, but they're completely handcuffed. Pardon the pun on that. They're the mayors. They run the city parks department. How do you deal with hostile communist foreign city states inside your border act? I don't know, but I know we have to.
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We can do what Trump is doing. You have to. And you have to double down. You have to send more troops when they behave like this. I just can't imagine being in her position, which you're supposed to be kind of a badass person, right? You're a police commissioner. And like, talking about myself like that, like, I'm. I'm a woman. I'm now over 40, so I'm, you know, AARP eligible. I'm Irish, so I come from a people who were oppressed when they first immigrated to the United States. There's some, Some Polish in my background. We were invaded by the Nazis. I have one breast that's slightly larger than the other. Like, how much are we gonna learn about you, madam? It's insane. These people, they're not. Well, that's why your, Your first response was totally valid in, In a couple of these sound bites, which was. I heard you giggling. That's. That's what comes to mind. They're laughable.
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What else can you do when you're faced with this kind of insanity? It's not like you can. We talked about it in the beginning of the show, Megan. It's not like you can tackle it or reason with it. Any human being who introduces themselves with their pronouns and then, as you just mentioned, goes down the list of their never end. Here are my victim accomplishments before I go through this. There's no talking to that person. We've always wanted to believe, those of us, at least me on the right. We've always wanted to believe, because we believe in the goodness of our fellow man and the sanctity of every individual, that maybe our political opponents. Okay, they're a little lost. All right? They're a little naive. They just don't understand. If I could just have a pizza and a beer. Give me a couple hours. I'll show them some. I've got facts. I've got facts here on this paper. I'll show em some facts. I'll show em some video and they'll come around. That's not true. They're insane.
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No. They're just insane. It's a no. I would love for that woman to meet you and say those pronouns and you say Jesse Kelly, he, him, white, straight. It's awesome. Okay, stand by. We have got more with Jesse on the back end of this break. Don't go away. I've been talking a lot about Riverbend Ranch because I love their steaks. They have some spectacular beef bundles that are wonderful gifts to friends and family. Their prime rib roast and other bundles are only available while supplies last. And they are going fast. For the last 35 years, Riverbend Ranch has been creating an elite Angus herd by using ultrasound technology to identify genetically superior cattle with a focus on flavor and tenderness. They only use the top 1 or 2% of the entire Angus population as their breeding stock, producing beef that has much more flavor and tenderness than your average Angus beef. All Riverbend Ranch cattle are born and raised in the USA and the beef is processed right at the ranch in their award winning USDA inspected processing facility. You avoid the costly middlemen because the beef is sent directly from Riverbend Ranch to your home. Order from Riverbendranch.com and use the promo code Megan. For 20 bucks off your first order, let me know what you think. That's Riverbendranch.com promo code Megan. Jesse Kelly, host of I'm Right. Find it on YouTube at Jesse Kelly D.C. he's also host of the Jesse Kelly show, which airs on the Megyn Kelly Channel, among other places, every weeknight at 6pm Eastern, which we love. That's Sirius XM channel 111. So check em out every evening, Monday through Friday at 6:00pm all right, so here's where we're going. My team, because they love to torture me, heard our discussion about NPR's Up first this morning and went back and cut the bit about Renee Goode's Pinterest. Would you listen to this? Well, a reporter from the Minnesota Star Tribune spoke with Good's mother. She described her as the kindest person she's ever known, said she was not involved in any kind of anti government activity. Good was the mother of three kids. The youngest is about six years old. We know she had a home repair business with her wife in Kansas City. We also found what appears to be her Pinterest. And you know, that page, to put it simply, is filled with the things of a normal human life. Ideas for recipes and haircuts, plans for a garden and tips on parenting like how to soothe a child's anxiety and.
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Fun things to do with them in the summer.
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Jesse that's it. That's it. And listen, listen. The New York Post has an explosive report out today that talks about how this woman, Good, was an anti ICE warrior who was part of a group of activists who worked to document and resist the ISIS crackdown in Minnesota. She moved to the city last year. She linked up with the anti ICE activists through her six year old son's WOKE charter school, which boasts that it puts social justice first and involves kids in political and social activism. She was a warrior. She died doing what was right. A mother named Lisa, whose child attends the same school, told the Post. She, they, they say that she, that she was trained against ICE agents. What to do, what not to do. It's a very thorough training, says Lisa. Is it to listen to commands, know your rights, whistle when you see the ICE agents, and so on? She was doing everything right. Not last, but last but not least, these goods. Renee and her wife had no love loss for President Trump, leaving their Kansas City, Missouri neighborhood to leave for to move to Canada after the 2024 election with plans to leave the country for good. They lived there for a few months before settling into Minneapolis, said a former neighbor. So this woman who's just, she's just about the recipes, Jess, that's it. Just loves her recipes, was a freaking ICE trained agitator.
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Can you imagine how disgusting her recipes must have been? There's no way that woman was a good cook. There's no way. That's, that's 1, 2. I think normal people would be shocked to discover the level of professionalism these communist warriors, and you know what, I'll use their term because that's how they see themselves. Normal people, even politically active people who go vote in primary elections and involved in elections do not really realize the level of organization and sophistication of the communists in the United States of America. And it's always been this way. And let's remember we have elected officials like Karen Bass, mayor of Los Angeles, America's second biggest city, traveled routinely to Cuba for communist training. Tim Walls, governor of Minnesota, traveled to China about 8,000 times. Nothing shady going on there. If you talk to any former communist street animal in this country. And I've talked to many. They will discuss classes, courses, they have retreats that we don't do this kind of stuff on. The right, if anything. And I ran for Congress twice and lost twice. But you gather people up for five minutes on a Saturday and say, here's your list and please be polite. And here's some bumper stickers to hand out and go knock on some doors and have a good time, everybody. God bless. Gather around for a prayer. That's the extent of our training on the right. Communists don't do this. They have whiteboards. This is what you're allowed to do. This is how you can impede if you do this. And beyond that. Megan, I know you know about this because I know you've talked about this. They have phone numbers you can call if you do take things too far and get yourself in handcuffs, where you can call a number and somebody will post bail on your behalf. It is a level of. It's an army. It's a guerrilla army operating inside of our borders. It doesn't want you to know that. So whenever one of them takes it too far and gets shot, you have to talk about her Pinterest page on npr. Or just a loving mother and poet who made a lovely kale salad. But in reality, that woman was trained.
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And most likely paid honestly.
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I am sorry that Renee Goode is no longer with us. I genuinely am. I'm sorry for her, for her family, for her children. But it is because of her own choices. That's just the harsh reality. She made really, really terrible decisions. And now this just in. Jesse, we'd been asking yesterday, along with many others, where is the videotape from the cop? I'm not gonna name the cop right now. His name is out there, but I don't want him doxxed. This is not important right now what his name is, by the way. He's an Iraq War veteran. He has a family of his own. And again, he was dragged just last June by an illegal while he was trying to arrest him in ice, a child molester to save people like Renee Goode's children. So he had reason to fear these cars. So he took out his cell phone and he. He was videotaping this whole encounter. And we asked ourselves in our audience yesterday, where's that tape? Well, guess what? Alpha News just got it. And they're amazing. They're in Minneapolis and in Minnesota. They've done great reporting on the whole Derek Chauvin case. And here it is. We're gonna Play it for you. This is the vantage point from the cop leading up to the moments of the confrontation. He's getting out of his car. You can see him approaching the maroon suv. She's. She's behind the wheel. That's fine, dude.
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I'm not mad at boy.
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Show your face. I'm not mad.
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That's okay.
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We don't change our place. It's her talking. I'm not mad. Just so you know, it'll be the.
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Same plate when you come talk to us later.
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That's fine.
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U.S. citizen, former president. You want to come at us?
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You want to come at us?
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This is the wife.
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Yourself. Some lunch bags, big boy.
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Go ahead.
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Out of the car. Get out of the car.
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She's getting in. Here it goes. Let's react that. Let's rewrack the very last part and we'll. We'll play it again. But, Jesse, what. What we see there is her wife antagonizing ice. This was obviously part of an op. She's filming them. She's. She's trying to upset them. And I didn't realize the wife was trying to get into the car at the time. Renee Goode steps on the accelerator and hits the cop. Let's watch it again. We're the same plate when you come talk to us later.
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That's fine.
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U. S. Citizen. You want to come at us?
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You want to come at us?
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I said go get your yourself some lunch, big boy.
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Go ahead. Now the car. Get out of the car. Get out of the car.
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I mean, you can hear the collision. You can hear her hit him. And by the way, Jesse, if you slow it down and you look at the screen grab of Renee Good's face, you can see she saw him. She's looking right at him. I mean, there's. We. We have it here. You'd have to zoom in, but I did it on my phone. She clearly saw the officer and accelerated. I don't know that she wanted to run him over. I don't know what she intended, but it doesn't matter. What he saw was a dangerous instrumentality about to kill him. And that is why he opened fire. Your thoughts on it now?
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She's dead. I just think it's so sad. But these are the. Look, this is. You start doing drugs. Please don't start doing drugs. Megan, not that I'm concerned for you, but you start doing drugs. Heroin, it's something. Something terrible like that. You make choices, bad choices, they lead to other bad choices, which leads to other bad choices. And one day Those choices get you killed. I've made a bunch of terrible choices in my life, many of which could have gotten me killed. And by the grace of God, I'm still here. But that's a woman who knows the whole background of how she got involved in communist politics. All the meetings, all the. All the training, all the this that her and her. Her wife. And they led her to Minnesota one day, and now she's gone. She'll never see the age of 38. And the. The terrible tragedy as, as we talked about in the first hour is the communist leadership that encourages these people, organizes these people, pays these people, billionaires, people in the media, Democrat politicians, they won't. They won't change their ways today, Megan. There's no humanity in it for them. They're not sorry at all. They'll send a bunch of other poor idiot dregs out to die again today and tomorrow and the next day, they'll kill the whole world if it means power for themselves.
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Was it like six or eight months ago? Remember they said more, More people need to die, we need to cause more chaos, and more people need to die to get attention to our issues. Well, Renee Goode was sacrificed in that battle. Here's a closer image of her face while driving the car into the officer. I mean, it's clear she's looking at the camera. She obviously saw him and put her foot on the gas and pressed. It doesn't matter what her motivation was. I don't care whether she was trying to run him over or trying to escape. All that matters was the perspective of the officer and a reasonable officer in the same position. Would they reasonably fear for their safety or the safety of others? And by the way, the one, the other cop's arm was in the car she was trying to take off. And the answer is obviously yes. All right, listen, I know you got a hard outcoming, but I've got to ask you about this story. It happened in May, but it just made the news over the weekend because the video for some reason, just caught on. It is in a Planet Fitness in California. And a woman named Grace Hudson, who goes to Planet Fitness, walked into the women's locker room. And what she says is she used the facilities. She walked out of the stall, I guess, to wash her hands. The shower inside the women's locker room stops and quote, this dude comes out, quote, literally straight up dude, tall and masculine. He's naked and wrapped in a towel, she says. And the next thing she knows, he goes into one of the bathroom stalls. Forgive me, Viewer warning here. You're not going to see any body parts, but you're going to see shadows of the body parts. And it's really clear what he was doing. Bro. I literally saw your shadow, bro. Like, well, she confronts him.
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C
Listen, you saw my shadow. That didn't anything.
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B
I was in scared.
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C
I was feeling myself together.
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Y' all call the drops or do.
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C
Something about this because this is.
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B
This is the boyfriend.
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C
Yeah, all right, all right.
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B
Just want to. And now employees are there. Don't act. Don't act innocent, bro.
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C
I saw the video. I was on FaceTime watching you, bro.
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B
You're in the females locker room beating your dick, bro.
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C
Doesn't matter who you are. That's inappropriate to be doing with females around. It is inappropriate.
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B
Do that at home. You're in the women's bathroom. Bathroom.
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C
I'm allowed to be in here. Doesn't matter if you're allowed to be in here. You're not allowed to jerk off in here, bro. What were you doing? I was drying off.
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Like, I just. I was just drying off. Just. I'm sorry. For the listening audience, what you can see is like, if you were standing outside of a bathroom stall, you can see maybe people's feet and you can potentially see a shadow of the person. And you can see the guys clearly jerking off. It's very obvious. And then they confront him. He's dressed in hot pink. He's half out of the stall because he's, I guess, embarrassed he got caught and claiming he has a right to be there, which sadly, under California law, he does. He does. The Planet Fitness people stand around, they have no idea how to handle it. That's obvious. They don't help. The boyfriend comes in there and does the right thing, you know, calls out the guy, gets. Gets into his face rhetorically. And this guy has the rights and the law on his side. In the People's Republic of California. Jesse Kelly.
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A
You know, Megan, we. We look across the ocean at various, you know, Islamist type countries where, where women are treated like cattle. You know, Afghanistan right now, young girls aren't allowed to go to school and women are beaten and abused. And we're mortified by it. Correctly so, by the way, we're mortified by it that. That there's a place where women are just abused repeatedly. And you know what we do, though? We look down our noses at those places and we think, oh, I could never hear. Well, that's every blue state now in the United States of America. And that's just the reality of it. The reality of it is because we've allowed this demonic filth to fill up certain parts of our country that young girls are abused, sexual abuse, physically abused, certainly on the sports field, routinely. And we still look across the pond at a place like Afghanistan and we talk about what backwards barbarians they are. But every decent society in the history of mankind would have handled that problem immediately. And I mean legally, illegally immediately. That person would have been apprehended, face some sort of punishment. Who knows what kind of punishment that would be. It would depend on what time period. But when it would have just simply been understood. The women deserve to be protected in society. But if you choose to be a Democrat and live in a democrat place, that protection is now gone. You are way, you're not even second fiddle. I don't know if there's a third or fourth fiddle, but that's where you are compared to all this tranny demonic nonsense that goes on. And it, it sickens me. That's where we are, that young girls, that women of any age would be subjected to that. But that's what happens when you vote Democrat.
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B
Yeah. And now like that you're. I have a 14 year old daughter. Like we have to walk into Planet Fitness and if she has to use the facility, she has to be next to that. Or what about after this guy leaves? I've got to go use that stall. Or my fellow women have to go use that stall that some guy was just jerking off in. How did it end? It's disgusting. I know. And Gavin Newsom, who wants to be the president, allows this. He willingly allows it. It's disgusting. And they say, Jesse, oh, you know, it's about being kind and being empath, pathetic. And people are different. And we have to let them use the, the facility that aligns with their gender identity. The vast majority of these men pretending to be women are auto gynephiles. They get off on being in women's spaces, dressing like women. And if they can jerk off around women in those circumstances, so much the better. We are not safe with these perverts exploiting these laws. And I don't know what it's going to. I know you got to go. I'll let you get a quick last word. But I don't know what it's going to take to bring this home for people like Gavin Newsom who are still in power and want even more of it.
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A
It's going to take people, even normal people, maybe even people who lean a little left waking up and realizing there's only one party that enables this, it's not me sitting here waving pom poms for the useless Republicans. But the truth is, the Democrat Party, they are the party of evil now. They promote it, they will protect it. And as long as you keep voting Democrat, I know your daddy loved jfk, but as long as she keep voting Democrat, this is what you're going to get more of. There's no way around it.
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B
Jesse Kelly, thank you for everything you do.
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A
Appreciate your mate.
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B
Okay, I just want to play one sound bite. Jesse had to go, but I want to play the sound bite of the young woman who was the witness to this. Her name is Grace Hudson, as I said. And she. She updated her video by commenting on it on TikTok this past Sunday. Listen, I go out to wash my hands. The shower stops, and this dude comes out tall and just masculine, everything. He's naked and wrapped in a towel. I go to dry my hands. I turn back around and I see that shadow. So I go back out into the gym, and about 10, 15 minutes later, I come back into the bathroom and he's still doing that. I called my boyfriend and showed him, and I go and tell the workers at the front desk. They just didn't really seem like they knew what to do. Eventually, they follow me into the restroom. He kept trying to say, oh, he's transgender. He was drying off. I do have regrets. Like, I should have done more. I should have called the cops. I thought about it, but I was like, there's no way anything is going to come of this. Like, people are just going to say I'm transphobic. Okay, I'm. That makes me so sad. This young woman should never have had to deal with that. It is a failure of all the rest of us. She's young. She didn't make the laws. She grew up probably in the area. It's a failure of all of ours in not stopping this, not working harder to stop this. You know, I. I don't know what to say. I. I wish I had always been on the right side of this issue. Like so many millions of Americans, I thought it was empathetic to be kind to, you know, trans people. So called trans people who. I never advocated for their use of bathrooms and locker rooms. But I'm just saying, like, the empathy thing worked on me until I started to see it explode. And so it's my fault, and it's the fault of so many, but it's really the fault of the people who are still pushing it. There is no excuse for still pushing it. In 20, 26, America, there is no excuse for Gavin Newsom and the lawmakers of California like Scott Weiner. The disgusting, foul, perverted, in my view, Scott Weiner to allow this shit. Why does she have to deal with this when she goes in just to work out and use the facilities? Shame on you. Shame on you, Gavin Newsom. And I'm telling you right now, if this guy runs for president and there is a debate and somebody doesn't ask him about this, I will shame you daily. I will call my other big swing in podcast friends and make sure you get shamed by name for not asking him about this, about how he could allow this to happen to poor Grace Hudson. It's not her fault. She's feeling bad. She feels guilty that she didn't do more. Grace. There's nothing more you could do. The California law is against you. It allows this pervert to jerk off an inch away from you in the bathroom stall when you are just trying to get fit and better your life. It's disgusting, it's immoral, it's derelict, it's evil. There's been no response from Planet Fitness. Why not? Do you give two shits about your clients? Do you care at all? I wonder what Grace is paying a month. Probably 70 bucks for her membership. Do you care at all about the women there? I'm just curious, like, who goes in there and cleans up the mess that that disgusting tranny fool made? Yeah, like, do you think he's the kind who cleans up carefully after himself? Or do the women now need to sit on male semen when they try to use the stall? That's okay with you, Planet Fitness. Just checking, asking for our friend. And you might want to talk to your front desk staff if you're going to impose these laws on Californians. And then you, Planet Fitness, are just going to go along with them instead of creating some single sex stall where they can go. You might want to give some thought to the front desk staff, you know, like maybe they need to come in there with their rubber gloves and their Clorox and their mops and their rags after every one of these so called trans people uses our facilities, okay? Because none of us wants to sit on that bathroom stall. None of us wants to deal with that, okay? And unlike men, we actually do have to sit most of the time and our legs burn and it's tough. And sometimes you're dealing with feminine business. That makes it even tougher to be standing, hovering for five minutes over the seat. So clean up your act. Make it clean. Make it safe. And honestly, if you can't stop this from happening, close up your doors and hang up your shingle. Get out. Get out of the health business, because that's not what this is. This is Times Square, 1977. That's what this is. They're one step away from carving a little hole in between the stalls so somebody can suck that guy off. I'm sorry, I'm getting disgusting, but it happens. This is so disgusting. And what they tell us is it's trans rights are human rights. That's it. That's the tweet. No, this is about women's rights. This is about this young girl, Grace's right to be safe and feel safe when she tries to relieve herself while working out. Fuck you, Planet Fitness. Fuck you, Gavin Newsom, and you too, Scott Wiener. We'll be right back. A new year means new financial goals, like making sure your savings are secure and diversified. Will this be the year you decide to talk to someone from Birch Gold Group? They use an educational approach with a deep understanding of macroeconomics. There are forces pushing the dollar lower and gold higher, which is why they believe every American should own physical gold. So until January 30th, if you're a first time gold buyer, Birch Gold is offering a rebate of up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases. 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C
Hey, thanks for having me. Great to be with you.
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B
Great to see you. Okay, so we've been talking about Minneapolis and Portland all afternoon, and one thing I didn't get to was now that Renee Goode has died, the protesters who have been harassing ICE for days are treating it like she's George Floyd. I mean, like this is just a clear example in their view of police brutality. And you Know, every sane, passionate or compassionate person would see her as the obvious victim who didn't ask for this. And you get this from one of the protesters. This is via the Daily Wire's Breckah Stoll sat 12.
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C
I got him. I was like, I don't know if it's the right thing to do. It feels kind of wrong being here in some way.
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A
I don't know.
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C
Why?
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A
Why? Why do you think? Yeah, I don't know.
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B
I don't know, like.
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C
Where that stems from.
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B
Like, I don't.
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C
I mean, part of it is being like a white woman, that I'm privileged, and I have a lot of privilege. So I feel like white tears are not always something that's helpful or necessary. When black and brown people have been experiencing this for a long time, this isn't new for them. And so I don't know if that makes any sense in that way.
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I'm here, I'm crying, but I feel guilty about my tears because I'm white. And this doesn't even involve anybody who's black at all or Hispanic. It's all whites. The shooter, the cop, the cop who shot her is white. The woman who died is white. Her wife was white. This is every white, white, white and white. But you're. A white woman's not allowed to shed white tears, period. Link. Because black and brown people have gone through this more times than white people have.
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C
No, they're definitely trying to make Renee the next George Floyd. You can see that with Tim Walls. And I think it's perfect for Tim Walls businesses to be burnt to the ground during George Floyd. In fact, I think his wife talked about how they could smell tires burning outside and it really, you know, coaxed them to sleep. We can smell tires burning outside.
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B
She says she used to put down her windows or lift up her windows so she could smell it.
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C
Right. And then you have Jacob Fry, who is kneeling at George Floyd's casket. So they're trying to do this. But what people can't forget, and I've been trying to raise this on social media, this is a gift to Tim Walls. He won't admit this publicly, but in my opinion, this is a big gift for Tim Walls and he's probably happy that this happened because it's moving the news cycle off of his massive Somali fraud scandal. Look how quickly the moot. The news cycle moved on to Renee. So I think Tim Walls is probably happy about this, but we're going to have to get back to the fraud scandal. One thing I also say is this if you're driving and someone tells you to stop their car, right? If a federal agent tries to stop and talk to you, do not try to ram into them with your Honda Pilot, right? For me, I follow the rules. But what we've seen with these Democrats for years is they're so used to being led off the hook by leftist liberal judges, they're used to having no consequences. There'll be, you know, pallets of bricks left out for them at these protests just willy nilly. And so they're not ever used to having consequences. And unfortunately, in this situation, she had consequences. Nobody wanted to see her get shot. Nobody wanted to see her die. But when you're using your car as a weapon, things are going to happen, right? You stalk this guy, you rammed him and it went down.
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B
And yet the media continues to look at this and say, what we're seeing here is she was in the right. That's, that's what this shows. You know, we saw that with Jimmy Kimmel last night. Thank God. You know, thank God. There's a video that shows us this Rachel Maddow. Like, obviously the video shows that the cop was in the wrong. And then thank goodness for Vice President J.D. vance, who went to the White House press briefing room yesterday, got up in front of the lectern and let them have it. Here's Sat 9.
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When I was actually walking out here, somebody sent me a photo of a CNN headline about what happened in Minneapolis. And this is the headline. I'm just going to read it. Outrage after ICE Officer kills US Citizen in Minneapolis. Well, that's one way to put it. And that is the way that many people in the corporate, corporate media have put this attack over the last 24 hours.
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C
And I say attack very, very intentionally.
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Because this was an attack on federal law enforcement. This was an attack on law and order. This was an attack on the American people. The way that the media by and large has reported this story has been an absolute disgrace.
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C
And it puts our law enforcement officers.
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At risk every single day. What that headline leaves out is the.
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C
Fact that that very often ICE officer.
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Nearly had his life ended, dragged by a car six months ago, 33 stitches in his leg.
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C
So you think maybe he's a little.
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Bit sensitive about somebody ramming him with an automobile. What that headline leaves out is that that woman was there to interfere with a legitimate law enforcement operation in the United States of America. What that headline leaves out is that that woman has, is part of a broader left wing network to attack, to.
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C
Dox, to assault, and to make it impossible for our ICE officers to do their job.
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B
Cue all the media saying he made that up. None of that is verifiable. She wasn't part of a network. See, her mother, her mom who says she was really great and wasn't part of a network. Well, I've got reporting from the New York Post quoting people at her woke school who say she was.
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C
No. What's so funny watching that clip. What comes to mind for me is, is it's so nice having a president, a vice president, a Secretary of state, an entire administration that can form coherent sentences. Because for the last four years, could you imagine Kamala even getting up there to do a presser and take questions that aren't vetted? Could you imagine Joe Biden getting up to take questions? They would give him note cards with people's pictures and names and biographies and the questions written out for him. So when I saw J.D. vance at the podium, we can talk about the content of what he said next. I was just so happy to see a vice president who wasn't three sheets to the wind by 12 in the afternoon and could actually talk informed, coherent sentences. So that was great. I'll also say this. Stop vilifying and demonizing law enforcement. But this is the whole narrative on the left, right? They always have this victim mentality. They vilify men and women in uniform, vilify people who serve our country. You see that with Jimmy Kimmel. Maybe we can talk about him in a second. But it's this constant vilification of people who are out there enforcing laws. I'm sorry, Democrats, Let me break it to you how the country works. I haven't been on earth that long, but I can break it down for you. Elections have consequences. If you guys don't like the deportations, if you don't like what ICE is doing, take it to the ballot box. You know what I'm saying? Kamala Harris lost every single swing state. The House, the Senate, the popular vote, Electoral College, the list goes on. So when the Democrats are crying and whining about this, this is what we voted for. President Trump for 10 years has run on mass deportations. We're going to do the wall. We're going to get criminals out of the country. We're going to be tough about it, and we're going to move fast and get things done. So when the election came around and he won overwhelmingly, you guys are going, oh, we can't believe he's out there doing it. Take it to the ballot box. Stop using your cars. As weapons. Stop stalking law enforcement. Stop doxing them. This poor man who was in an unfortunate situation and did what he thought he had to do in self defense. They've already found his name, where he lives, his family, God bless all of them. But these leftists will continue to vilify law enforcement. Unfortunately, I think from here on out until 2028, it's to.
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B
You're totally right. And by the way, it was a very good point you made about Tim Walls. Because, look, he may be dodging responsibility or at least the limelight right now, because all eyes are focused on ice, but this is coming back. This is definitely coming back. ICE did not back off one bit. Their officers are all still there investigating the fraud and arresting illegals. And just yesterday, we got announcement from Secretary Bessant saying if you are on public assistance, you can no longer wire money out of the United States, which is clearly aimed directly at these Somalis in Minneapolis, who, per reporting from City Journal and County highway and others, have been wiring money overseas, in part, it is believed, has fundamentally the Al Shabaab terrorist network. And Secretary Besant just put the kibosh on that. And Tim Wallace is not going to escape responsibility for this.
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C
No. Tim Walls wants to obfuscate, hide the truth. He does not want to address this Somali scandal. And I'm almost thinking, you know, I'm the least conspiratorial person you will ever find, Megan. But when I look at the last election, right, Kamala Harris chose Tim Walls out of the blue. She needed Pennsylvania. She didn't choose the guy from Pennsylvania. She chose this clown, Mr. Jazz Hands from Minnesota. So she chooses him. Right? And all of their vetting. You're telling me the DNC's vetting? Kamala Harris is vetting PR, all of that. Private investigators. You guys didn't know about any of this fraud, even though people in Minnesota said they've known about it for years. There have been rumors for years. And I can tell you, Megan, I have friends all across the political spectrum. Left, right, center, libertarian, whatever. This is bringing people together. I mean, I had a transition. Transgender classmate from NYU who lives in California. Text me paragraphs about how pissed she was about the Somali fraud scandal in Minnesota. Because we work hard, we pay our taxes, we get up and work. We sit here and sell our MASA chips every day. And cowboy colostrum and work. We don't want our tax dollars going to Somalians who are funding terrorism. Call me crazy. And it's clear we're paying way too much in taxes. If 8, 10, $12 billion by some of these estimates is going to terrorist organizations and Somalians and daycares with no children. So this is going to bring people together. I think fraud. If Republicans get their act together in the midterms, they can run on this fraud. I mean, there's something here for everybody here. Healthcare fraud, SNAP program has a lot of fraud. They don't want to turn over their scrolls either. You've got Somalian fraud, you've got people rigging things. I think Republicans can run on this, run on most favored nations, run on getting health care costs down, run on securing the border and ram this fraud narrative home. Because if the Republicans lose in the midterms, you don't think there's going to be even worse fraud? You don't think there's fraud. It's only going to.
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B
I think it's great that the DOJ now has a new like fraud ambassador, fraud czar who's going to look at this. But that person also needs to look into disability fraud because I've covered so many cases where people, they claim disability, it's bullshit. They retire with something like, I don't 3/4 of their salary and it's all made up. Then you see them running a marathon, you see them doing like a triathlon. It's ridiculous. And that's another fertile area to figure out who's defrauding us out of our hard earned dollars.
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C
If anyone has flown Southwest in the comments, you have seen this. First and foremost, they have 20 wheelchairs. And you know Southwest is first come, first serve. So it's like the Hunger games. They've got 20 wheelchairs because people got to get on first and get those good seats you get off in Miami, people strutting off the plane, sacheting off the planes. So we do need to look into all of this.
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B
We have all seen that one word on J.D. vance, who was just stellar yesterday. Tim Miller of the Dispatch tweets out, JD Vance is the most appalling person in public life since segregation. This is a truly despicable performance. And then you've got Jon Favreau of the Pod Save. Guys, can't believe I'm saying this, but I think he's worse than Trump. Certainly more despicable. Two people, that's just two. But there were plenty others calling him despicable. That's the word for J.D. vance. He's despicable. He's even worse than Trump. Link. They see what we see, which is 48.
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C
Well, it's interesting, Tim Miller, these guys From Pod Save America. They're about as politically relevant as, like a hemorrhoid. Like, nobody cares about what they have to say whatsoever. Like, I don't think anyone is looking to Tim Miller for some political expertise. This guy doesn't even know where he stands. He'll say anything to get on msnb. So he has no principles. And where were these folks the last four years when they are carrying water for Biden? When Karine Jean Pierre and these Democrat operatives were saying, he's sharp and quick and doing cartwheels? You have no trust. You have no trust outside of your very far left base. So how are you going to win in 26? How are you going to win in 2028? And I will say there's not much competition on the left, right? Gavin Newsom. He's supposed to be their stellar star. Gavin Newsom. In every single interview, you press him, he starts shaking, he starts sweating, his eyes are bloodshot, he comes unglued very quickly. Gavin Newsom. So I don't even think he'll do well in debates. So, J.D. vance. Calm, cool, collected. Marco Rubio. Funny, Calm, cool, collected as well. I mean, we have a great bench and I think there are some names that we're not even discussing yet. So we'll see.
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B
Here's what I want to hear the next time Gavin Newsom goes anywhere. Grace Hudson. Grace Hudson. Grace Hudson. Grace Hudson. Planet Fitness Planet. Fitness. Planet. Fitness. Planet Fitness. Every journalist who fails to do that is derelict in his or her duty.
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C
Well, what's interesting is one time when I was in the press poll, I asked President Trump about the fight Gavin Newsom was having with the DOJ to keep men and women's sports. And we've talked about A.B. hernandez. And Gavin Newsom has flip flopped on this trans issue a lot. Now he's decided he wants more trans kids and he loves trans. So clearly the special interest and entrenched interests and medical lobby has gotten to him. But I remember asking President Trump, I said, does Gavin Newsom hate women? Does he hate women? Like, how can you as a father, right, as a father of a young woman, want men in the women's locker rooms, men in the women's bathrooms? And President Trump laugh. He's like, I certainly don't think Gavin Newsom hates women. But if Gavin Newsom doesn't come down on the right side of history on this issue, he doesn't have a prayer. They say this is 80, 20. Go out there and talk to people at the supermarket. Go out there and talk to Forgotten men and women of this country. They will tell you, this is not an 8020 issue. And I'm so happy. If Kamala Harris had won, we could have been de platformed for having this conversation. Look at what happened during COVID If you said anything they didn't like, it was like George Orwell.
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B
He'd impose that readily. And by the way, no, he doesn't hate women, but he. He just. Just our rights, that's all. Just our rights.
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C
Right.
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B
I want to keep going. You mentioned Jimmy Kimmel. I'm glad you raised that because I've been trying to get to this all week. His show won the critics. Critics Choice Awards. And he had the nerve to say this backstage sat 17.
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A
It's interesting. It was almost a near death experience for me. And you know, of course, not literally, but I did feel a little bit like Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn watching their own funeral. All this stuff happened. And to be here and to see that people reacted to it in a. Not just a positive way, but in almost a desperate way.
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B
We're like, oh, boy.
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A
When they come after the comedians, this is when we draw the line. And, you know, we're very grateful that they drew the line at us.
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B
Link a near death experience. I mean, how dare he use that term? How dare he use that term, this multimillionaire, privileged asshole sitting out there in Beverly Hills because his show was off the air for five days. Five days. That's it. And he wants to use that term. And also just one other point to talk about how. Oh, you know, when they come for the comedians. Where was he when comedians were being canceled left and right in 2020 because of woke excesses. I'll just play you one, just one. Ryan Long came on our show in May of 2021. We didn't even have video. We were just an audio podcast back then. And talked about this and what he'd been through. He's a brilliant comedian. It's a quick soundbite, but listen to this. SOT 19.
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C
I mean, when I was doing stuff at CBC, which is the Canadian Broadcast Corporation, I was part of, you know, traditional media. And I had probably the biggest views out of any show and my digital series. Other. The two or three other ones would be turned into television shows and mine wouldn't. And I was in a million conversations, you know, in closed doors and on conference calls where it was like, listen, like, they're not doing a show with a white male. Like, that's just what the situation is. If you want to, you know, potentially we could be partnering with someone that isn't white or whatever it is, right? Like the amount of these conversations I have. And I go, yeah, okay, so option one is I can, you know, stay there and complain. Option two is I sort of moved to America and tried to build my own thing. So of course that sucks. And you know, Tim Allen's getting his show kicked off the air because for no reason when it was a hit, and I've seen this time and time.
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B
Again, I don't remember Jimmy Kimmel standing up for anyone other than himself. Link.
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C
For Jimmy Kimmel to say him being put on pause for a couple of days was a near death experience. It made my skin crawl a couple days ago when I saw it because what a slap in the face to men and women who serve this country. What about people who are going through chemotherapy right now? What about people who are on in the hospital about to die? What about those people? And so when I see Jimmy Kimmel going out there and saying he had a near death experience because his show was off the air for a few days, what a slap in the face to people actually going through things. Number two, Jimmy Kimmel is not funny, right? Jimmy Kimmel has never had a funny joke. He's not a real comedian. He's a partisan hack. Sort of like Stephen Colbert, right? He's running, what, a $40 million deficit at his show. If you think he was a conservative, would they keep him on the air? Absolutely not. But Jimmy Kimmel gets a pass because it's abc, it's Disney, all the special interests love Jimmy Kimmel. They'll push any pharmaceutical product and do what they have to do on air every single day. But Jimmy Kimmel, it's interesting. You can tell he's lived a charmed life, a pretty easy life, because this is the worst thing that's ever happened to him. Getting a three or four day vacation, you know.
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B
Then he made a comment on stage in which he ripped on Trump. I don't, I don't even totally get it. He called him Donald Jennifer Trump. Like, what's, what even is that? Is he trying to like say Trump is trans? Are you allowed to make fun of trans people when you're.
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C
Yeah, that's their new go to, right?
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B
I'm not sure that's allowed. And then there's the voice of reason. Conan o', Brien, who was part of a discussion at the Oxford Union and said this the other day, Sat 20.
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C
I think some comics go the route of I'm going to just say F Trump every all the time or that's their comedy. And I think, well, now a little bit you're being co opted because you're so angry. You've been lulled. It's like a siren leading you into the rocks. You've been lulled into just saying, f Trump.
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A
F Trump. F Trump.
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C
Screw this guy, you know? And I think you've now put down your best weapon, which is being funny, and you've exchanged it for anger.
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B
It's pretty amazing. He's clearly taking aim in particular at the three late night hosts. Fallon, less so, but definitely Colbert and Kimmel and the loser, Seth Meyers, 100%. Not to mention John Oliver, all of whom do exactly that and only that.
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C
Well, John Oliver, I can't stand in about every three or four weeks, John Oliver will put a picture of me up on screen and make fun of me. And my liberal friends will text, text me and say, john Oliver just called you this and John Oliver called you that. I said, why is his staff so concerned with what I have going on? Maybe you guys should go and write some jokes and some good material.
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B
Maybe.
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C
Maybe there's someone in that writer's room who does. Because you're looking good. My picture. Well, thank you.
- [93:41]
B
You really are very handsome. Your new wardrobe, your hair's looking good. You're very famous now.
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C
Well, thank you, but. And we've, we're, we're working on the lighting. Okay. I'm not that ghostly in person. We're going from maybe 4,500 kelvin down to 30. We're working on it, people. So when it comes, when it comes to comedians, Conan o' Brien is a real one. Conan o' Brien follows me on Instagram. I would love to have him on the podcast to discuss this very issue. All the great comics are going into conservative areas and touring red states now because they go and play these liberal crowds in Los Angeles. You go to like the Comedy Store. Nobody will laugh. Nobody will laugh. You have to take everything so seriously. It's like, like we used to have Joan Rivers back in the day and people who could really push the boundaries and push the envelopes. And that's what comedy was supposed to be. Late night comedians weren't supposed to be partisan hacks who are pushing political agendas. Right. They were supposed to call out both sides and be funny and boisterous and all of the above. But Jimmy Kimmel, I don't think he'll be on air much longer either. Stephen Colbert, I think he's already been canned. And the others. Does anyone watch does anyone care?
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B
Yeah, not really. I mean, of course it's all turned into like one big Trump bashing session out in Hollywood. We know that, but it's not just on camera, it's behind the camera. When people are auditioning for their roles, they have to make clear they hate Trump if they want to get cast in anything major in Hollywood. Rob Schneider, who's amazing and also a comedian who used to be on Saturday Night Live, knows of what he speaks and he talked about this just the other day. Take a listen here. SOT 30 show business, wrong or right, they don't want any controversy.
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C
You know, they don't want you being mouthy or anything. And, and that, that makes sense. But I do think that at a.
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B
Certain point, if we're going to have a society and if we're going to.
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A
Have, continue to have a free society.
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B
It'S going to require people to step up and be courageous.
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A
And, you know, this country still allows that. It is our First Amendment right.
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C
Does it, it make you free of consequences?
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A
No, you just, you know, you can.
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B
Ask Jimmy Kimmel, who was temporarily fired.
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A
It's going to cost you.
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C
And I think today's black listing of conservatives is the same thing. I think it's at its core.
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B
It is adding to its destruction.
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C
And I think you.
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A
We are seeing Hollywood completely dismantle itself.
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B
That's an interview with the Epic Times, right on. Rob Schneider link.
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C
Rob Schneider has always been a real one. Rob Schneider, Mike Binder, I don't know if you know him, he's a great comedian as well. On the Kennedy campaign, we put on this big comedy show fundraiser in downtown Los Angeles. Rob Schneider came, he performed. He couldn't have been nicer. I was backstage getting people drinks. I think the comedians were mad. We had like water and Gatorade. They're like, where are the real drinks backstage? We're like, this is campaign event. So no, they were like, where are the real drinks? But Rob Schneider, he's always been a real one and he was. And he's not afraid to call out both sides. And that's what comedians are supposed to do. But it's interesting in these writers rooms, the reason Hollywood is going so downhill, the reason you can't find anything good to watch on Netflix is they're capitulating to this small but vocal minority, right? Most people, they're kind of in the middle. They want to pay their bills. They want a country that works for them. They're not crazy, far left deranged people. But when you turn on Netflix they'll ruin every show by throwing in a bunch of characters that don't fit together. Just a checkbox is, like, for me.
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B
Right.
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C
I'm gay, obviously. I don't need to see a gay character in every single show. I'll be watching, like, a historical film, and they'll, like, throw in a gay character sashaying in with a scarf. And I'm like, this has nothing to do with the film that's going on. So, no, we don't need to check every single box. And even I was having this conversation with some black friends of mine, and they're in and entertainment. I spoke about this on my podcast. They're like, we don't need to see ourselves in every single film. It's okay to see different stories. But if Hollywood doesn't start recognizing these states, they like to fly over between Los Angeles and New York, they fly over and look down on middle America. If they don't prioritize those folks and realize they have checkbooks and wallets, too, and they're willing to go to the theater, if you tell a good story, they're going to get left behind. And I think that's why Hillbilly Elegy really resonated and Sound of Freedom resonated because they spoke to audiences that don't see themselves represented on Netflix or some of these streamers or in movie theaters.
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B
Yeah. And made.
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C
I will say, Amazon.
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B
A star. A huge star.
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C
Go ahead. Absolutely. One thing I'll say about Amazon prime and Jeff Bezos is I love that they're putting out the first Lady Melania Trump's film. They're open to having pretty much anything on Amazon prime now. And so I love to see that shift in how things are going. So shout out to Prime. I will say that I can always find something.
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B
Hopefully, they're turning over a new leaf because they. They banned Eli and Shelby Steele's documentary what Killed Michael Brown a few years back, which was disgusting. But perhaps we've turned over a new leaf now that we're trying to cozy up to Donald Trump. Whatever. We'll take the fairness, however we can get it. All right, Link, stand by, because I'm gonna keep you, if you don't mind. We're gonna keep this rolling. There's a lot more to get to, and we just. Not enough time. But Link stays with us. And we will be right back with him right after this break. Look, 2026 does not mean reinventing the wheel. Start small, swap out the garbage snacks for something real like Masa chips. It's the no effort way to eat better without the diet nonsense. Just three little organic corn, sea salt and grass fed beef tallow. No seed oils, no chemicals, just real actual food. And these chips taste fantastic. 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Along with the Megyn Kelly show, you're going to hear from people like Mark Halperin, Link Lauren, Maureen Callahan, Emily Jasinsky, Jesse Kelly, Real Clear Politics, and many more. It's bold. No BS news only on the Megyn Kelly channel, SiriusXM 111 and on the SiriusXM app. Link Lauren, host of Spoton on the MK Media Podcast Network is back with me. Now. Go and subscribe on YouTube and all podcast platforms now. Okay, so link this is the tale of two parties. Here you've got Donald Trump with a very big announcement saying that he is calling for a ban on large institutional investors buying single family homes. This is revolutionary because we've seen these big huge corporate banks buying huge swaths of homes and making it a lot tougher in some instances for regular Joes to be able to afford them. He truthed out on Wednesday. For a very long time, buying and owning a home was considered the pinnacle of the American dream. It was the reward for working hard, doing the right thing. But now, because of record high inflation caused by Joe Biden and the Dems, the American dreams increasingly out of reach for far too many, especially younger Americans. For that reason and much more, I'm immediately taking steps to ban large institutional investors from buying more single family homes. And I will be calling on Congress to codify it. People live in homes. Homes not corporations. I will discuss this topic, including further housing and affordability proposals and more at my speech in Davos in two weeks. So he's worried about homeownership and people not being able to afford them. And he is cracking down in just the right place on these corporate huge banks that try to corner the market, pricing individuals out. Now let's take a look over at one of the most expensive cities in the world, New York City, where we have a new head of tenant housing named Sia Weaver. And Sia says her goal is to make housing worthless, not cost less. She's not interested in helping homeowners get homeownership, which she thinks is white supremacy. She's made that clear. The quote was, it is important to impoverish the white middle class. That's her goal. It is quoting directly. It is important to impoverish the white middle class. And homeownership is racist. You see, she doesn't like Donald Trump's plan. She doesn't want to make it easier for people to afford a home. What she wants is for the government to own all the homes and then they will decide where you live and where I live and where everybody else lives. And this can be hung around the neck of Mayor Mamdani like an albatross because he's made clear. Sia speaks for him in a newly unearthed clip. Take a listen here. This is from 2021 Sat 27. I would first of all, you need to expand rent controls to cover smaller buildings and they need to be rent controlled. And the reason why they need to be rent controlled is not because like rent control is inherently socialist, but because rent control limits the speculative value of the land. Like our goal is to have the housing actually be worthless to some degree. Right. Like we don't want this to be an investment vehicle. We want it to be like long term stable homes. We don't need people to become millionaires off their homes.
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C
You know, I get most of my knowledge on housing from Sia. So if you get it from me, it's just not coming from the source.
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B
That's not good. Your thoughts on Sia Weaver and her media tour this week?
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C
Many thoughts. First off, thank you, President Trump. Right? When people want to be panickins in the GOP right now and say there's a bunch of infighting and this and that. President Trump, this is an issue Republicans can win on in the midterms. It's something Democrats have wanted for years. Independents and folks on the right, we have to stop institutional investors from coming in and buying homes. If you do that and you couple it with mass deportations, maybe young people will be able to have the American dream. So I'm so happy to see President Trump tackling this because I've said for years, I've shouted it from the rooftops. The thought of owning a home is a distant fantasy for my generation. But it's not just Gen Z, Gen Alpha and younger folks. I hear from senior citizens. I hear from baby boomers and older who say we're having to be perpetual renters because we can't afford to have homes. And these are people who've served, been in America their entire lives, paid their dues and paid their taxes. So I'm happy we're going to stop private equity from coming and buying homes. Second, I don't want to hear from Zoran Mamdani or any of his DEI picks on housing, okay? Reverse racism is still racism, okay? Excluding white people on the basis of their skin color or their background, that is still racism. And I don't know what folks are still doing in New York City. Unless you have to live in New York City. Why are you still there? We just saw Zoran Mamdani and Kathy Hochul. They lit up all these buildings green for Muslim Pride Month and Muslim Heritage Month. They had the World Trade center lit up green for Muslim Heritage Month. I'll let you fill in the irony there. We're only 25 years on from 9 11. What happened to never forget? Now we're lighting the World Trade center up for Muslim Pride Month. So I'm not Islamophobic. I'm calling it like I see it. If you're still in New York City, if you're still in New York State, I don't know what you are doing, okay? But if you're gonna come. If you're gonna come to our red states, don't bring your voting record, okay? If you're fleeing because of Sia, Weaver and Mamdani, don't come and vote blue in Texas and Florida and all these other states. Just stay there.
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B
Islamophobia is not a thing. You are allowed to object to the tenets of Islam. It's a part religion, part political doctrine. And we are perfectly entitled to comment on it favorably or negatively without being called essentially a bigot. Sorry, that's just the way it is. Okay, let me keep going because I really want to get your thoughts on Meghan Markle's new cookbook. In the same week, we heard that her 11th publicist in five years quit allegedly over the Debacle that happened at the Kris Jenner birthday party where they harassed the Kardashians to take down all the photos of Harry and Megan because there was one of Harry leering at Kris Jenner's breasts. That's my speculation. I'm sure that was part of the reason. And Megan didn't look good in the photo. So they thought we never consented. We want them down anyway, this publicist said, I am out of here. I'm not dealing with these two. Then we hear that Megan is releasing her first solo cookbook link in early 2026. It's going to tie her lifestyle brand as ever into, I guess, her cooking. And Daily Mail reports that the book may include recipes for her single skillet spaghetti, which by the way, and rainbow themed fruit salad. Maureen Callahan and I made both of those only to find out that the single skillet spaghetti was stolen from Martha Stewart. It's not even her own recipe. It's exactly the same. There's might be like one tiny difference. So I wonder whether she's going to get sued for a copyright infringement if she actually tries to pawn that off in a cookbook as her own. Thoughts?
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C
Oh, I have many thoughts. I think the 11th publicist leaving tells us there's real trouble in paradise. I think the publicist would rather work for like Katie Porter than Meghan Markle. I think Katie Porter might be a cakewalk as opposed to Meghan Markle. So I'm not shocked to see the staff leaving. Yeah. And I also think maybe they don't pay the staff that well. I think also they hire a bunch of people to feel important. Right. If we have staff, if we have an entourage, we're really important. And then the staff realizes there's not much happening day to day. These aren't people getting up and just hustling from like eight to six every day. There's nothing happening really at the compound. There are days where they don't do much and so I'm not shocked to see the people leaving. The second thing I'll say is I don't need a cookbook from Meghan Markle. She can barely cook. Okay. It's like taking Driver's Ed from Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles. Like, you just don't want to take cooking advice from Meghan Markle. And then all she can do is she moves pretzels from one bag into another. Okay. That's not skill.
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B
Is that a recipe? Can we count that as a recipe?
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C
Exactly. Exactly. So she can only move pretzels from one bag into another. She makes rainbow fruit platters. Let me also say this. I heard from so many women and mothers who are like, we don't have time when we're getting our kids ready for school to do rainbow color coordinated fruit platters. Right. We're trying to get the kids out the of the door. Is the homework done? Do you have the slip you need for class? Because Megan has staff and rich celebrities in Montecito, Los Angeles, have full time staffs and nannies. They can get up and leisurely make a rainbow fruit platter. If I came downstairs as a kid and my mom was making a rainbow fruit platter before school, I would say, who died? Are you on speed? What's going on? Like, I would think something bad had happened. If I came down and my mom was whipping up a rainbow fruit platter color coordinated in the morning. I'm like, has she turned into to monk? What's going on? So Meghan Markle, I think this cookbook is a final grift. Like, she's really reaching. I'm sure she'll get a big advance and it'll be great. So happy for her.
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B
Oh, I mean, Maureen and I, we did the fruit platter and we had somebody do the shopping and it took hours. We're gonna drop a clip in here for the podcast listeners. All right, so this is just what I do. I just whip this up in the morning. You could do this with one small row for your kids for breakfast, ideally in your white cashmere.
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C
It's just fruit.
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B
It's just presented in a different way. An early rise might really help, like three or four. There's a real delight in being able to be a present parent with the nanny. Right, right, of course, of course. You gotta be able to just, like, go with the flow. When you're a working mom, you'll have to work. We all have a lot of stuff to do. If you literally have seven hours to devote to your breakfast charcuterie, you're gonna. Wow, Em, this is gorgeous. It's so sweet. Nailed it. Nailed. Took hours. And we made the spaghetti. The whole thing's a joke. I mean, if she makes money off of that and actually does get a big advance, it will truly underscore how absurd the publishing industry has become. All right, last but not least, a clip came to our attention. Link. Lauren, a clip from your show. And it was about your New Year's resolutions. And we want to show this to the audience in SOT32.
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C
If you're feeling bad about not reinventing yourself this year, don't worry, Meghan Markle will debut an entirely new personality company or life story by February. So she's got us all covered. Really. You're doing fine. And, you know, there's always that one friend, okay? There is always that one friend who says, I'm going to be kinder this year. I'm going to show up. I've changed my ways. Sweetie, you downloaded one Mel Robbins podcast. Cut the crap, okay? You bought one self help book. There's always that one friend who thinks that this is their Eat, Pray Love year. This is the year they're really gonna transform and be kinder and be better. And then they're back being a miserable troll in about five days. Okay? So listen, I'm not judging. It takes a village. But if you've been a bitch the last 20 years, why change now?
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B
Okay, I love it. All very good advice. But later in the show, you ask the audience to weigh in on the sweater. And I would like to officially do that and say, I'm against it. It has the feel of somebody reaching for, like, your boob in the movie theater, you know, like, it for the listening audience. It's got, like, what looks like a hand across a sweater that is green and black, and then like a white hand reaching across, reaching for, like, a boob or the shoulder. And therefore, I'm against it because it reminds me of middle school.
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C
So the sweater is not gonna be brought back out unless it's a recurring character, like the Wickless candle. Okay, I keep. I keep Meghan Markle's Wickless Candle on my desk because it's a recurring character. I'm glad it doesn't have a SAG card. It might start charging me. But no, the sweater is gonna stay in the closet. And I don't care about looking ridiculous. I thought, okay, this is so terrible. I'm gonna wear it. And let me just ask them how much they hate it. Like, a few weeks ago, I wore this insane purple shirt, and it ended up being one of our biggest episodes. I think we got like four or five thousand comments on the episode. Half of them were like, we like the shirt. We don't like the shirt. And I bought the shirt myself. It's not like anyone sent it to me. I didn't even say that the brand of it. But no, that sweater was a Christmas gift. And, you know, on Christmas morning, everybody has related to this, okay? On Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, whatever, you celebrate, you open a gift and you hate it. But you have to go like, oh, my God, thank you. You turn into an Academy Award winning actor on Christmas morning. Thank you so much for this sweater. I thought, thought I don't care if I look ridiculous. I know they're gonna have heated opinions over this sweater.
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B
Here's what you need to say when somebody gives you a gift like that. And it's. I love this line because it's true, but it's also somewhat subversive. Okay? It's. And it's not insulting. I could not love this anymore. That is what you say when you get the terrible gift. I could not love it anymore. I like it is honestly, I couldn't. Trust me, I couldn't. Now, one of the reasons I raised this with you is because we had our own sweater gate here at the MK show. It didn't play out on the air or with the audience, but it's about to. So every day before we go on, I sit down in the chair and I can see my executive producer, Steve Krakauer, and my executive producer for news, Debbie Murphy on my little zoom camera, which is right underneath my real camera. Sometimes the audience will see me looking, not into camera, but looking down because on the screen below the camera, we play the sound bites. And I can see them better because it's a big, big camera and I can see Steve and Debbie there. And so that's helpful for the anchor to just figure out the traffic of the show and what's happening. And sometimes they're talking to me in my ear anyway, I see them sitting there and I sat down mid December getting ready to do a show. And Steve Krakauer, he's been my EP from the beginning of the show. And we've been friends forever for, since forever is wearing what to me from this distance, I'm about maybe, I don't know, 15ft away from the camera. Looked like a strapless shirt. It looks, he's, he's a heterosexual man. He's very happily married with kids. Look at this. And I took a picture of this link with my camera. Does it not look like he is naked from the shoulder up in this little screen grab?
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C
Absolutely.
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B
And there's Canadian Debbie laughing at him on screen. Right, let's, let's, let's run through, through a few of the screen grabs if we have them. Yeah, there's another one. And I'm like, steve, what are you wearing?
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C
What are you wearing?
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B
No idea. And we were gonna have a staff meeting that day. Here's me taking a picture. You can see me in it taking a picture. So we're Gonna have a staff meeting that day. And I'm gonna tell you, Link, that he actually put on a jacket before the staff meeting. So shamed him out of this ridiculous sweater. Cause it was like for the listening audience, like peach, I think peach, Steve. I'm sorry. And then a stripe of blue and then peach and then blue. And the peach looked naked. Like Steve Krakauer went strapless for the Megyn Kelly show that day. Does that sweater stay or does it go.
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C
That goes in the same bin as my sweater. No, it's gotta go. I will say when I stand up, the sweater is not as terrible. I think there's this big fashion account that breaks down, like Melania's outfits and Princess Catherine's and we use their stuff all the time. And he did a full thing on like, where the sweater was from and the full picture. And I said, I feel like I've kind of made it now because this account is talking about this horrific sweater. But no, it is not coming back out except as like a gag, you know, like the candle.
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B
Wait, Steve, what happened to the sweater? Asking now. It's retired. He says it's retired.
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A
Good.
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B
Just took a little good old fashioned shaming, you know, like the world has to do what it's gonna do. This is why I'm in favor of shaming. This is why I don't like principals screening somebody's valedictorian speech. Like if they say something stupid, they have to be subjected to the wrath of the masses out there. That teach them the old fashioned way what to say, what not to say, what the bounds of society will allow. And so that's laws of natural consequences. Which is why, yeah, there should be feedback on sweaters and the like. And we shouldn't be shy about it. It's. It's like a. It's our duty as friends.
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C
Absolutely. No, we need to bring back shame in 2026. I think the girls were getting a little too shameless in 2025. All these thoughts out here and people, the way they were behaving. So we need to bring back a little bit of shame. Like I was at a restaurant the other night and we didn't go out on New Year's, but we did like a nice date night, fancy restaurant. I think on like the second or the third, some of the outfits walking into the restaurant and it is cold. These girls are wearing nothing. These girls are wearing nothing. And I said, do you remember before it was socially acceptable to come to a restaurant with your vagina out? Like, how are you in Here with this outfit. So we need to bring back a.
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B
Little shade next to exposed vag. That is not.
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C
Well, what I said was for any of us, I said, I know we're at a Japanese restaurant. I don't need to see your California roll. Like it was. There was a lot going on, so I didn't need to see that. Actually, it was confirmation of I'm gay.
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B
By the way, we also should, like, we got to crack down on the crying men. Have you ever seen so many crying men in the news? Like, a lot of crying by news men just this week alone. Link, what do you make of that?
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C
It's interesting because on the one hand, it's like, okay, nice that a guy can cry every once in a while. But I'm old school. I don't need to see grown men crying all the time. I think Kelly Catrone, this, like, publicist in New York used to have this phrase, if you have to cry, go outside. You know all these crybabies in the workplace. And there are Gen Z's who are bringing their parents to job interviews like they're 24 years old bringing their parents to job interviews. Everyone needs to grow up, okay? And man up too, okay? We need more alphas in this world. Like, I want Delta Force looking guys. I want those guys who went and snatched up Maduro. I don't want crybabies who are, you know, I think a lot of these men, and I hate to say it, women might get mad at this, but I was having a conversation with a friend. I think it's social media. Is it the hormones and the chicken? I think men these days, like, have a period also. Like, men almost. Like, I see so many guys now. It's like my. Even my girlfriends will be like, I think he's on his, like, man period because they're just emotional and angry. It's got a cheat.
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B
I just asked Jesse about this. Jesse Kelly. I'm like, is it the micro plastics? Is it like, what is it that. The water, like the chemicals in the water, the sunscreen. Because I. I do miss real men. I want real men. I agree with you. Like, Delta Force. That'd be great. But just not crying all the time on camera. As a male anchor, I would take that, too. We talked about Tony Dokapoel yesterday. Weird crying in a clip that he put out. He put out. He wanted us to see him cry. That's what's so weird. It's even worse than the Philip Bump thing we just showed because at least he was live on the Air. Tony Dokapoel was in a taped interview with somebody and, like, started to tear up about the fact that he didn't get to grow up in Miami. It wasn't like I said, like, the whole family died in a house fire. Not that. No, it was. I didn't get to live there. Repeatedly wiping the eye and then the other eye and the back to the first eye and back to the other eye and like choking up in the throat and couldn't get the words out. It was embarrassing. But I will tell you, I did get a little insight on what he's doing last night. All right, we played this clip yesterday, so it was from the day before. Then last night he went out and tried to do a little summary of what's happening in Minneapolis. Like, I guess this is gonna be his thing. And I realized something about his thing that put the crying in perspective. Watch. Watch what he did last night.
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C
Okay? But our job now is maybe the most American thing of all. It's to find a way to live with people who are genuinely different from us, to try to be fair to them and in doing so, to make things better and keep things decent. Because in America, no one else is going to do it for us.
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B
Us.
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C
It's not my job to tell you what to think about what happened here yesterday, but I can tell you we owe our children a nation that is better than the one we live in today. And I can say that because we all know it's true.
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B
Okay, so what's happening here, Link is he's trying to be Oprah that now it all makes sense. He's trying to offer fake profundities that move no one and are actually not original or meaningful at all. And peppering in some, like, self help talk, you know, Kumbaya hugging type stuff in between his crying fits. Because he's telegraphing Oprah he's topra. That's what he's trying to do with the CBS Evening News and like Oprah's show now the Days It Will Fail. Like, this is no way to appeal. I think he wants American women because we all like the Delta Force thing. The only far left liberal women like a crying Topra. Right? And men certainly don't like that. But I figured out the formula and this is apparently the new bet on the future of CBS News. Thoughts on that?
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C
Well, it's interesting. I think it's a generational thing because I don't really know who a lot of these people are. I mean, when I see these palace intrigue stories about all of these networks now. I'm like, Like, I actually don't know who these people are. I wish you guys well, but I just have never heard of some of these anchors and even my friends, like, we don't know who this is either. So, you know, shout out to everyone over there. I wish them well. But a friend of mine gave me advice years ago. She said, if you want to be taken seriously in politics, you cannot cry on camera. Like, if you lose an election, especially as a woman, you can't cry at your concession speech. Larry. Kamala. Okay. Doug Imhoff. So it's like, if you ever want to be taken seriously, you cannot cry on camera. I don't need to see grown men crying. You know, maybe after sex with a cigarette. But no, I don't want to see.
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B
You on camera either. No, I'm just saying, nowhere around sex should a man ever cry. No, absolutely.
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C
I have to call my mom afterward. No, I'm just kidding. But yeah, no, I don't need to see grown men cry. And I really don't see a ton of women crying either.
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B
We have to run it again. Can we run the crying video just to get like. I need to see it just before we go to weekend. You said this is your favorite place in the world. Why? Why South Florida and Miami night?
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A
What?
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C
It makes me emotional. It's so funny. I. I didn't mean.
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A
I didn't think it would catch, you.
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C
Know.
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A
Cuz you only have one childhood, right?
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C
So.
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B
Right.
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A
Let me get a second here, okay? I can relate.
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C
This is home.
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B
The wiping. The wiping people will.
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C
To.
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A
To. To help people understand why I have such a reaction.
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B
Yeah. Help us more wiping.
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C
And Florida is where I grew up. Ah, we didn't get a lot of sleep, so.
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B
No, it's okay.
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C
Yeah, my grandmother's here, my father, my mother, my aunts and uncles, cousins. And it's where I. I would have spent all of my childhood, but we left cancer because my father got in trouble with business. We laugh about it now, but he was a drug dealer. But the reason it's so emotional for me.
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B
He's criminal.
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C
Is because I feel like I was.
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A
Robbed of the full.
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C
Miami experience. So when I come back, I'm always like.
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B
He was. He was robbed of the full Miami experience link. That is like you and me going down there and forgetting to have a cocktail poolside in the 24 hours we have on business. That's a conversation. We really didn't get the full Miami experience. But he's crying about it 40 years later. And Then tweeting out the clip because he wants us to see how topra he is.
- [123:24]
C
Yeah, No, I. All I can say is I don't think you guys will ever see me crying on camera. Even if I discuss something serious or sad, there's a high probability that I hold it together. And I don't need to see grown men crying on the news either. I think these networks should just focus on reporting the news. Right. Focus on telling us what's going on. We actually don't need all the ancillary information and anecdotes. Right. I used to watch the news and I didn't know anything about their personal lives. Just tell me what's happening in the country.
- [123:49]
B
What if Meghan Markle and Prince Harry get accepted back into the royal family and somehow he becomes king? I think you'd shed a tear. I would.
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C
First off, I think the British people would revolt. Number two, Prince Harry is lazy, so he wouldn't last but two days. I don't think that'll ever, ever, ever happened. But maybe I would shed a tear then if he was left, if he becomes royal again before me. Because apparently there is some open vacancy. Like, you know, some of the members are dropping, they're losing their title. So if he becomes royal again before I do, I'm going to be real upset. I paid my dues. I've done their.
- [124:23]
B
I. I'm going to. There could be a debate about whether if you wear that sweater again, tears will be shed at some place on the Internet. But we'll wait and see. We will tune in to Spot on with Link, Lauren, and wait for the day. Thank you, my friend.
- [124:35]
C
Thank you so much. Thank you.
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B
Great to see you. Okay, go and get Link's great content by subscribing. Go to spotonwithlink.com and find it on YouTube and all podcast platforms. Have a great weekend, everyone. Thanks for listening to the Megyn Kelly Show. No bs, no agenda and no fear.