Man Arrested Over AG Bondi Threat, Jamaica Braces for Storm, Trump on 3rd Term: AM Update 10/28

Summary

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The Megyn Kelly Show - AM Update 10/28/2025

Episode Title: Man Arrested Over AG Bondi Threat, Jamaica Braces for Storm, Trump on 3rd Term
Host: Megyn Kelly
Date: October 28, 2025

Overview

In this episode, Megyn Kelly delivers a brisk, fact-packed morning update focused on three major stories: a high-profile arrest over threats against Attorney General Pam Bondi, Jamaica preparing for catastrophic Hurricane Melissa, and renewed debate over the possibility of Donald Trump seeking a third presidential term. The episode features legal updates, meteorological warnings, political speculation, and includes remarks from key figures.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Arrest Over Threat to AG Pam Bondi (00:32–05:25)

• Headline:
  A Minnesota resident, Tyler Maxson Avalos, was arrested for allegedly posting a $45,000 bounty on TikTok for the death of Attorney General Pam Bondi.
• Details:
  • FBI affidavit: The post featured a sniper scope image over Bondi’s forehead with the caption “Wanted Pam Bondi reward $45,000 dead or alive, preferably dead.”
  • Avalos’s profile included anarchist symbols and the phrase “Make John Brown proud,” a reference to a violent abolitionist.
  • Criminal record: Prior convictions for stalking and domestic violence.
  • Released on personal recognizance with strict restrictions—no bond, must stay in Minnesota, undergo mental health treatment, no internet without approval, and GPS monitoring.
  • Not yet formally indicted; arrested on a federal criminal complaint.
• Quote:
  • Megyn Kelly summarizes the risk: “Authorities taking Tyler Maxson Avalos into custody ... after a post from an account he allegedly controls was reported to the FBI.” (03:05)
  • Defense attorney Daniel Gertz notes: “He is not guilty of any crime ... we will wait and see.” (04:46)

2. Court Proceedings: Tyler Robinson Case (05:25–07:37)

• Headline:
  Judge Tony Graff ruled on whether Tyler Robinson (accused of assassinating Charlie Kirk) can appear in civilian clothing and without restraints during pretrial hearings.
• Key Rulings:
  • Civilian clothing allowed to preserve presumption of innocence.
    • Quote:
      Judge Graff: “Mr. Robinson shall be dressed as one who is presumed innocent.” (05:55)
  • No to fully unrestrained appearance; must use “the least restrictive restraints necessary to maintain safety.”
    • Quote:
      Judge Graff: “Charges ... carrying potential penalties of life imprisonment or death. The safety ... must remain the court’s highest priority.” (06:31)
  • Media banned from photographing defendant in shackles; future requests for further media restrictions must be joint motions.
  • Two pretrial hearings set for January, in person; prosecution to seek the death penalty.

3. Hurricane Melissa Threatens Jamaica (07:38–12:15)

• Overview:
  • Hurricane Melissa has intensified to Category 5, the strongest Atlantic storm of 2025 with winds of 175 mph, directly impacting Jamaica.
  • Already caused six deaths in the Caribbean; Jamaica bracing for catastrophic rainfall (30-40 inches expected), winds, flooding, landslides, and storm surges.
  • Mass evacuations, 800+ shelters opened, both international airports closed.
  • Prime Minister Andrew Holness issues stern warnings:
    • Quote:
      Holness: "You have been warned so it’s now up to you to use that information to make the right decisions.... if it stays for a very long time, you’re dealing with a higher level of destruction, a higher probability of landslides, a higher probability of flooding even in areas where flooding would not have taken place." (11:21)
  • U.S. pre-positions emergency supplies; experts warn of potential humanitarian crisis.
  • Storm expected to hit Cuba next and indirectly affect the US East Coast.

4. Trump and the Third Term Conversation (12:16–15:37)

• Renewed Speculation:
  • Discussion reignited by comments from Steve Bannon suggesting Trump could engineer a third term in 2028.
    • Quote:
      Bannon: “There’s a plan, and President Trump will be the president in ’28. We need him for at least one more term.” (13:21)
  • Legal context: 22nd Amendment prohibits more than two presidential terms.
  • Theory: Trump might run as Vice President, then succeed the president—a plan flagged as likely unconstitutional.
  • Trump himself speaks out:
    • Quote:
      Trump: “I wouldn’t do that ... it’s too cute. I think the people wouldn’t like that. It’s too cute. It wouldn’t be right.” (14:23–14:40)
      • On legal challenge: “I haven’t really thought about it.” (14:40)
      • On successors: “We have great people... I think if they ever formed a group, it would be unstoppable.” (15:01–15:10)
  • Megyn Kelly notes media distortion:
    • “Out of that full comment, some outlets cherry picking that one line. … Establishment media marching to the beat of Donald Trump’s drum once again.” (15:37)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Judge Tony Graff on Presumption of Innocence:
  “Mr. Robinson sits before this court presumed innocent and that presumption remains unless and until each element of every offense charged against him is proved beyond a reasonable doubt.” (05:25)
• Prime Minister Andrew Holness on Hurricane:
  “This is an unusual system.... if it stays for a very long time, you’re not just dealing with saturation, you’re dealing with a higher level of destruction, a higher probability of landslides...” (11:21)
• Steve Bannon on Trump 2028:
  “There’s a plan, and President Trump will be the president in ’28.” (13:21)
• Donald Trump on Third Term Gambit:
  “I wouldn’t do that. I think you’re ruling that it’s too cute.... It wouldn’t be right.” (14:23–14:40)
• Megyn Kelly on Media Response:
  “Out of that full comment, some outlets cherry picking that one line. ... Establishment media marching to the beat of Donald Trump’s drum once again.” (15:37)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Avalos/Bondi Threat Arrest: 00:32–05:25
• Robinson Court Motions: 05:25–07:37
• Hurricane Melissa Hits Jamaica: 07:38–12:15
• Prime Minister Holness Remarks: 11:21
• Trump Third Term Debate (incl. Bannon): 12:16–15:37
• Trump’s Comments Directly: 14:23–15:10

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Podcast Tone & Style

• Straightforward and journalistic, relaying facts and quotes with minimal commentary.
• Occasionally pointed, particularly when highlighting perceived media bias regarding Trump.
• Urgent in discussing Hurricane Melissa’s dangers and court proceedings.
• Reflective of the high-stakes political and legal atmosphere in the US and internationally.

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This summary covers all core segments and provides essential quotes and timestamps, making it easy to catch up on this episode’s most pressing stories and commentary.

Transcript

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[Megyn Kelly]

Good morning everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Tuesday, October 28, 2025 and this is your AM update. A Minnesota resident arrested after allegedly offering a $45,000 bounty on social media calling for the death of Attorney General Pam Bondi.

[Judge Tony Graff]

The defendant's request to appear in civilian clothing for all pre trial proceedings is granted.

[Megyn Kelly]

The judge overseeing the accused, Charlie Kirk in Tyler Robinson's case rules on motions related to the defendant's court appearance as well as some rules for media coverage. Hurricane Melissa officially swelling to the most powerful storm of 2025 just prior to slamming Jamaica.

[Political Analyst]

One theory on how you might try to serve a third term is that you could run as the Vice President.

[Megyn Kelly]

And President Trump triggering the media yet again in response to his plans for 2028. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. As President Trump is settling into his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Democrat Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois. And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new plan, a government takeover of your credit card. Today, Americans have thousands of choices in credit cards, but they say Senator Durbin's plan will result in less competition and less security, which means more risk for your credit and your identity. You can learn more for yourself at guard your card.com and you could consider telling your senators to stop Dick Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late. A Minnesota resident arrested earlier this month for allegedly posting a 4,45 thousand dollar bounty on tick Tock calling for the death of Attorney General Pam Bondi. According to an FBI affidavit, authorities taking Tyler Maxson Avalos into custody on October 16 after a post from an account he allegedly controls was reported to the FBI. The post features a picture of AG Bondi with a sniper scope, red dot laid over her forehead and a Caption Reading Quote Wanted Pam Bondi reward 45,000 dead or alive, preferably dead. The profile bio containing they, them, theirs, pronouns and reading Quote Make John Brown proud. Brown was a pre Civil War abolitionist who believed slavery in the US could only be ended through violent uprising. Avalos's profile also containing multiple symbols of the letter A with a circle around it commonly associated with anarchy. The page also linking to an anarchist FAQ book. More from the affidavit Quote Avalos has a multistate conviction history, including a July 2022 felony stalking conviction from Dakota county, an August 2016 felony third degree domestic battery from Polk County, Florida and an April 2016 misdemeanor domestic assault from Dakota county, which appears to have been reduced from a felony domestic assault by strangulation charge. Last Wednesday, Avalos, who is believed to be 29 or 30 years old, released from custody on personal recognizance, meaning no bond, but he must follow a certain set of restrictions including staying within Minnesota, continuing mental health treatment, no alcohol or drug use, and subject to random drug testing, no computer or Internet access without approval and and GPS monitoring. Avalos has not been formally indicted. He was arrested on a charge of interstate transmission of a threat to injure another person, his attorney Daniel Gertz tells am Update QUOTE no date is set for the next court hearing because he has not yet been indicted. He was arrested on the basis of a criminal complaint in federal court. The Fifth Amendment requires an indictment to go forward. He is not guilty of any crime, however, so we will wait and see. The judge overseeing defendant Tyler Robinson's case ruling yesterday on whether the 22 year old accused of assassinating Charlie Kirk will be allowed to appear unrestrained and in civilian attire in future court appearances. Judge Tony Graff holding the hearing virtually, Robinson speaking only once off camera, confirming he was able to hear the proceedings. Robinson originally set to appear in court for the first time this Thursday, that hearing postponed, allowing more time to complete discovery and file additional motions relating to whether certain hearings should be conducted virtually and issues relating to restrictions on media coverage. Judge Graff issuing a decision on a motion filed earlier this month by the defendant's legal team regarding his court apparel.

[Judge Tony Graff]

Mr. Robinson sits before this court presumed innocent and that presumption remains unless and until each element of every offense charged against him is proved beyond a reasonable doubt. To date, this has not occurred and the presumption of innocence remains. Balancing these factors, the Court finds that Mr. Robinson's right to the presumption of innocence outweighs the minimal inconvenience of permitting civilian attire and Mr. Robinson shall be dressed as one who is presumed innocent. Accordingly, the defendant's request to appear in civilian clothing for all pretrial proceedings is granted.

[Megyn Kelly]

The defendant's counsel ordered to provide civilian apparel 72 hours before any upcoming hearings. Judge Graf denying the defense's request for the defendant to appear without physical restrictions.

[Judge Tony Graff]

To the second request. Request to appear without physical restraints. Mr. Robinson also requests to appear unrestrained during pretrial proceedings. He argues that visible restraints would prejudice potential jurors, undermine his dignity and interfere with his ability to communicate with counsel. The Court recognizes that Mr. Robinson has no criminal history and no record of misconduct while in custody. However, the charges he faces are extraordinarily serious, carrying potential penalties of life imprisonment or death. The safety of Mr. Robinson, the attorneys, court staff and the public must remain the court's highest priority. The emotional nature of these proceedings also raise the risk of disruption.

[Megyn Kelly]

Judge Graf directing the sheriff's department to, quote, use the least restrictive restraints necessary to maintain safety. Media will be prohibited from capturing images of the defendant entering, exiting or standing in court when his shackles will be visible. Judge Graff directing both sides to file a joint motion in the event they wish to restrict electronic media coverage any further. The defendant is charged with one count of aggravated murder, felony discharge of a firearm, obstruction of justice, two counts of witness tampering, and commission of a violent offense in front of a child. Prosecutors will seek the death penalty. The next two pretrial hearings set for January 16th and 30th at 1pm the defendant is set to appear in person. Coming up Jamaica battening down the hatches as the immensely powerful Hurricane Melissa makes landfall and President Trump weighs in once again on one of the media's favorite questions. Will you run for a third term? Every October, we honor the strength and resilience of women and families affected by breast cancer. But cancer touches all of us in some way and more people today are seeking options beyond the standard approach. That's why I want to tell you about what All Family Pharmacy is doing this month. They are helping patients gain access to trusted, affordable medicines like Ivermectin and Mebendazole. These treatments that are sometimes used off label are currently being researched in Florida for their potential to support cancer treatment and prevention. For those looking for an alternative or addition to their current care, it's always important to consult with a doctor and All Family Pharmacy makes that simple. They work with like minded physicians across the country who review every order and provide prescriptions when appropriate. In honor of Breast Cancer Awareness Month they are offering 40% off me bendazole when you order this month with the code pink40 visit all family pharmacy.com allfamilypharmacy.com Megan to learn more and remember to use code pink40 by October 31st to save on mebendazole. Hurricane Melissa officially reaching category 5 strength on Sunday night. By Monday afternoon rising to the strongest storm of 2025, the worst Jamaica has ever seen with sustained winds of 175 mph and even stronger gusts. Only nine Atlantic hurricanes on record have been stronger than Melissa, according to cnn. As of Monday afternoon. Melissa pivoting north toward Jamaica already responsible for six deaths across the Caribbean, three in Haiti, one in the Dominican Republic and two in Jamaica. The Jamaicans killed while cutting trees in preparation for the hurricane. A National oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, or NOAA aircraft forced to abandon its mission, which included flying into the storm to collect data on Monday morning due to extreme turbulence. The colossal storm making landfall in Jamaica late last night. Analysts anticipating it could be the strongest direct landfall since the beginning of record keeping in advance. Authorities ordering mass evacuations, opening more than 800 shelters, closing both international airports. The AP reporting some residents insisting upon staying in their homes. Bruce Dawkins holding a beer and and wearing a raincoat saying, quote, I'm not going anywhere. Telling the reporter he intends to ride out the storm with a friend. The National Hurricane center warning Monday, quote, do not venture out of your safe shelter. Catastrophic and life threatening flash flooding and numerous landslides are likely today through Tuesday. The slow moving storm crawling at roughly 3 miles per hour expected to drop 30 to 40 inches of rain. Unleash destructive winds and and push a storm surge of up to 15ft along Jamaica's southern coast. According to AccuWeather officials predicting catastrophic flooding, landslides and power outages here. Jamaican Prime Minister Andrew Holness.

[Andrew Holness]

No one can say that the government was not forward leaning in giving the information to persons who are in areas of risk. You have been warned so it's now up to you to use that information to make the right decisions. This is an unusual system. Normally a hurricane you focus on two things, wind and rain because it happens very quickly. Now we have to focus on three things, wind, rain and the length of time it will probably linger over the country whilst we understand wind and rain and what it can do. But if it stays for a very long time, you're not just dealing with saturation, you're dealing with a higher level of destruction, a higher probability of landslides, a higher probability of flooding even in areas where flooding would not have taken place. So we have to bear that in mind and be prepared.

[Megyn Kelly]

The U.S. state Department pre positioning supplies in six warehouses to deliver emergency relief to those impacted. AccuWeather Chief Meteorologist Jonathan Porter telling the AP, quote, this can become a true humanitarian crisis very quickly and there is likely going to be the need for a lot of international support. Melissa is expected to move into Cuba by tomorrow morning, hitting portions of the Bahamas as well. Forecasters predicting the storm will indirectly impact the United States as well. According to the Washington Post, its moisture is expected to fuel another storm that could douse the east coast from the mid Atlantic up to New England. President weighing in again on the possibility of running for a third term in office as he swings through a diplomatic tour of Asia. The latest round of speculation prompted by recent comments made by Trump adviser Steve Bannon to the Economist.

[Steve Bannon]

Well, he's going to get a third term, so Trump 28 Trump is going to be President 28 and people just ought to get accommodated with that.

[Megyn Kelly]

So what about the 22nd Amendment?

[Steve Bannon]

There's many different alternatives. At the appropriate time, we'll lay out what the plan is. But there's a plan and President Trump will be the president in 28. We need him for at least one more term.

[Judge Tony Graff]

Right.

[Steve Bannon]

And he'll get that in 28.

[Megyn Kelly]

Mr. Trump in recent months trolling the media and Democrats passing out Trump 20, 28 hats. The 22nd Amendment provides that, quote, no person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice, end quote. One commonly floated theory suggests Mr. Trump could run as a vice presidential candidate. Then the president would step aside, allowing him to ascend to the top job. That scenario would also likely run into legal roadblocks as the Constitution specifically states, quote, no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of president shall be eligible to that of vice president. Regardless, the president on Monday firmly ruling out that option.

[Political Analyst]

One theory on how you might try to serve a third term is that you could run as the vice president.

[Donald Trump]

Yeah, I'd be allowed to do that.

[Political Analyst]

It the White House or the White House counsels or your legal position, I guess.

[Donald Trump]

But I wouldn't, I wouldn't do that. I think you're ruling that it's too cute. Yeah, I would rule that out because it's too cute. I think the people wouldn't like that. It's too cute.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's not.

[Donald Trump]

It wouldn't be right.

[Megyn Kelly]

Asked whether he would be willing to go to court to challenge the two term limitation, Mr. Trump replying that he hasn't really thought about it, then touting the political strength of his possible successors in his administration.

[Donald Trump]

We have Some very good people, as you know.

[Interviewer]

Who are the very good people? You said that for 2028. There are very good people. Who you have in mind?

[Donald Trump]

We have great people. I don't have to get into that, but we have one of them standing right here. We have J.D. obviously, the Vice president is great. I think Marco's great. I think, I'm not sure if anybody would run against those. I think if they ever formed a group, it would be unstoppable. I really do. I believe that. I would love to do it. I have my best numbers. It's very terrible. I have my best numbers.

[Interviewer]

So you're not ruling out?

[Donald Trump]

Am I not ruling it out? You'll have to tell me. All I can tell you is that we have a great, a great group of people, which they don't.

[Megyn Kelly]

Out of that full comment, some outlets cherry picking that one line. Quote, I would love to MSNBC quote, Trump renews talk about seeking a third term. Colon, I would love to do it. Axios quote Trump again declines to rule out unconstitutional third term establishment media marching to the beat of Donald Trump's drum once again. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for the Megyn Kelly show live on Sirius XM Triumph channel 111 at noon east on YouTube.com megankelly and on all podcast platforms.

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