Megyn Kelly at Turning Point AmFest 2025: What's Really Behind the Rift on the Right, and the Truth About the Candace-Erika Summit

Summary

The Megyn Kelly Show at Turning Point AmFest 2025

Episode Theme:
A candid, emotionally charged discussion at Turning Point AmericaFest 2025, with Megyn Kelly reflecting on the loss of Charlie Kirk, the unfolding rift in the conservative movement—especially around Israel—and the much-discussed peace summit between Candace Owens and Erica Kirk. The episode explores grief, unity, the impact of prominent conservative voices, internal disputes, and a call for putting America first.

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1. Reflections on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and Loss

[00:18–04:56]

• Grieving in the Movement:
  Megyn Kelly and co-host Jack openly mourn the loss of Charlie Kirk, highlighting his unique ability to unite people within the conservative movement.

  • “He had a very good judgment for what was interesting to the audience, too, and was always so generous with his time and his, you know, his approach... I can't believe it's been three months. In some ways, it feels like yesterday. And in some ways, it feels like another lifetime.” (Megyn Kelly, 00:31)

  • Vulnerability and Faith:
    Jack reflects on how sudden tragedy forces reflection on fate and divine will:

    • “Everything was just normal life. And then suddenly, God snaps his fingers and shows you that you are not in control, that he is in control, that you are a spectator, you are a reactor. You are someone who is living out God's will.” (Jack, 01:11)

  • Justice and Forgiveness:
    The conversation pivots to whether it’s possible for Christians to seek justice, including the morality of capital punishment, emphasizing that justice is about honoring the victim rather than vengeance.

    • “It is done, as Charlie said himself, out of valuing the life of the victim and showing that that life had worth... That's a debt that needs to be paid.” (Jack, 03:48)
    • Megyn adds the communal sense of loss:
      “We've all been robbed. We've all been cheated. And so, yes, we will both be watching that trial minute by minute. And I believe justice will be done.” (Megyn, 04:25)

  • Touch of Humor Amid Grief:
    Jack offers a light note imagining Charlie hosting a radio show in heaven, with Rush Limbaugh as his “lead-in.”

    • “I'm not sure quite what the radio schedule is, but I think Charlie's probably on from 9 to noon, and then from noon to 3 is Rush.” (Jack, 05:12)

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2. The Rift on the Right: Israel and the Conservative Divide

[05:14–08:18]

• Origin and Escalation:
  Megyn explains the rift in the conservative movement began before Charlie’s death, centering on Israel post–October 7 ("10 7") and accelerating with changing party sentiment.

  • “It revolves around Israel. There just is. It's gotten worse without him. He was helping us navigate it.” (Megyn, 05:45)

• Fox News and Conservative Shifts:
  She notes that past unwavering support for Israel has given way to growing dissent as the conflict continued, with conservatives feeling pressure to police discourse.

  • “When I was at Fox, you supported Israel, period... The party started to turn after 10 7. Uniform support and sympathy... but as the war went on... people were starting to turn on them.” (Megyn, 06:47)

• On Censorship:
  Both Megyn and Charlie opposed the idea of silencing dissent within the movement.

  • “Neither Charlie nor I felt like that was what we wanted to do at all, nor was it our job. We're not the policeman of the conservative movement.” (Megyn, 07:55)

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3. Responding to Ben Shapiro and Bari Weiss

[08:18–13:49]

• Megyn vs. Ben Shapiro Feud:
  Megyn addresses Ben Shapiro’s public criticism, expressing frustration over his attempt to “excommunicate” her and others for their approach to Israel-related controversies.

  • “Ben thinks he has the power to decide who gets excommunicated from the conservative, which shows a willful blindness about his position.” (Megyn, 08:34)
  • “He had the nerve to call me a friend right before he called me a despicable coward for not calling out the people he wants called out... So I don't think we are friends anymore.” (Megyn, 08:59)

• On Bari Weiss:
  Similarly, Megyn pushes back on Bari Weiss inserting herself as a defender of Erica Kirk, questioning Weiss’s authenticity and motivations.

  • “Barry doesn't know anything about Erica. Barry Weiss has never been to a Turning Point event... I don't remember her defending Charlie the many times he was called a racist or an anti Semite.” (Megyn, 11:06)

• Candace-Erica Town Hall Incident:
  Megyn and Jack criticize Hunter Kozak’s question to Erica Kirk (about Trump’s rhetoric) during the Bari-moderated event, calling it disrespectful.

  • “To put Erica in the position of having to defend whether Trump uses hateful rhetoric. The nerve.” (Megyn, 12:46)
  • “This is a man who was standing in front of Charlie, in front of her husband when he died. And he never once... said to her the basic human decency of saying, I'm sorry for your loss.” (Jack, 13:12)

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4. Behind the Scenes: The Candace Owens & Erica Kirk “Peace Summit”

[14:01–20:27]

• Megyn the Broker:
  For the first time, Megyn tells the full story of brokering the private sit-down between Candace Owens and Erica Kirk to address weeks of public and private tension.

  • “Erica called me, said, I want to do a sit down with Candace and I want you to moderate it... So Candace and I were in touch and she was very nice. She said, I'm thrilled it's you. I'll do it.” (Megyn, 14:31–17:49)

• Empathy and Caution:
  Megyn contextualizes Candace's behavior as that of someone grieving and postpartum after Charlie’s murder, arguing for empathy—even as she disagrees with Candace’s public statements.

  • “Candace had like literally just had a baby...that is a vulnerable position for a woman. And then her friend got shot in the neck...she deserved a wide berth right after Charlie's death to explore what she wanted to explore.” (Megyn, 15:55)

• Limits of “Censorship”:
  Megyn stands firm about not feeling obliged to censor those asking questions about Israel, despite internal and external pressure.

  • “It's okay to ask questions about Israel...why did I have an obligation to stop Candace from asking those questions? I didn't.” (Megyn, 19:44)

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5. Path Forward for Turning Point and the Movement

[20:27–21:34]

• Unity Over Division:
  Megyn insists that the movement remains more united than it appears and calls for less bullying by “pro-Israel activists,” clarifying her respect for average Jewish Americans while criticizing factionalism.

  • “I think we're far more united than we are divided... I think [pro-Israel activists] need to stop being such ardent bullies because it's dividing our movement unnecessarily. Over a country that is not ours, over Israel, not America. We need to care about America. America first is the principle that will get us through.” (Megyn, 20:44)

• Identifying Real Threats:
  She reminds the audience to focus on the actual political adversaries:

  • “I think we need to remember that the people who are literally killing us, like literally killing us, are the ones who are the true enemy. These crazy radical leftists.” (Megyn, 21:18)

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6. Human Touch—Closing Stories

[21:34–24:41]

• Impact on Audience and US Military:
  Jack shares that Megyn’s show was a source of morale for those in the military, especially in tough political times.

  • “There are so many people in the United States military, United States law enforcement that would be out there watching you day in and day out, and there still are today. And we wanted to thank you for having our back.” (Jack, 22:47)

• Lighthearted Banter:
  The two reflect humorously on Megyn Kelly’s signature wardrobe at Fox, with anecdotes about office bets on which color she’d wear—neon pink, red, or yellow, but never orange.

  • “The One thing that would have cost you the bet immediately was orange. Orange. Because Roger did not allow orange.” (Megyn, 23:35)

• Personal Thanks & Mission Statement:
  Jack thanks Megyn for her courage in peacemaking, underscoring the mission to keep focus on "America first" and honoring Charlie Kirk’s legacy.

  • “Thank you so much for your leadership on this, for your guidance for brokering peace in a situation like this, for stepping up and being a leader when you could have been divisive...” (Jack, 24:12)

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Notable Quotes

• On Grief and Fate:
  “You are someone who is living out God's will.” (Jack, 01:11)
• On Justice for Charlie:
  “That's a debt that needs to be paid.” (Jack, 03:48)
• On Internal Policing and Division:
  “We're not the policeman of the conservative movement. I'm not. He wasn't. Ben Shapiro isn't either.” (Megyn, 07:55)
• On Being Called a Coward:
  “He had the nerve to call me a friend right before he called me a despicable coward for not calling out the people he wants called out.” (Megyn, 08:59)
• On Focusing on America:
  “America first is the principle that will get us through.” (Megyn, 21:18)
• On Unity:
  “I think we're far more united than we are divided.” (Megyn, 20:44)

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Conclusion & Tone

The episode melds heartfelt memorial, insider tension, and realpolitik—all delivered in Megyn Kelly’s signature direct, unsparing, and occasionally irreverent style. The discussion acknowledges pain, exposes fault lines, names names, and yet circles back to unity, leadership, and keeping the focus on American interests. This is a must-listen for anyone following the evolving conservative landscape post-Charlie Kirk, with a rare glimpse behind political and personal headlines.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show, live on Sirius XM channel 111, every weekday at noon East.

[B]

Ladies and gentlemen, we are here with Meghan Kelly at Amfest 2025.

[A]

Just when you think Turning Point can't go next level on the walkout, they can. They can shift to 11.

[B]

Megan, I've got to ask, how does it feel to be on this stage without Charlie?

[A]

Oh, like you, Jack, I miss him so much. And this is how we would always do it, right? Because just for me, I prefer a Q and A. I just think it's more interesting than a speech. And we would sit at all of these things, and he was always so great. Not. Not to make you feel nervous, but he always knew exactly what question to ask, how to get you up and down in a story. He had a very good judgment for what was interesting to the audience, too, and was always so generous with his time and his, you know, his approach. So that, of course, I'm gonna miss. But I can't believe it's been three months. In some ways, it feels like yesterday. And in some ways, it feels like another lifetime that we've seen him. Right.

[B]

Somebody brought up a, you know, an event I was at just a few days before Charlie's murder. And I remember thinking to myself, we were sitting. We were having lunch, and it was. Everything was totally normal. Everything was just normal life. And then suddenly, God snaps his fingers and shows you that you are not in control, that he is in control, that you are a spectator, you are a reactor. You are someone who is living out God's will. And I think that's one of the biggest things for me that I've been. And, look, you know, it's not easy doing all this, but one of the things that I've been working hard to remember, that God's will is absolutely paramount in all of this.

[A]

I know we don't have it all figured out, and I'll tell you, I was backstage a little while ago, and I went to see Erica in her green room. And, you know, she's so strong, and she's the picture of class, but she was alone, you know, And I saw her. I met her for the first time backstage at one of these events. And she was with just their daughter, who was just a baby at the time. They didn't have their little boy yet. And she was seated. She looked so beautiful. She had her baby with her. Charlie was in and out of everything. It was crazy. It was. We were in Florida. He was, like, sweaty, and she was just like, an angel sitting there in the middle of the chaos, like, completely managing it and nonplussed. And I just couldn't help but seeing her backstage alone, thinking this. It doesn't feel right. You know, she. She shouldn't be alone. She should be with the love of her life. And that's why we have to make sure we get justice for the man who took him.

[B]

Absolutely. And, Megan, you. You were talking about this on your show recently, and you and I had a little conversation about it as well, and you said, you know, can a Christian want that kind of justice? And can a Christian believe in that kind of justice? And that's a great question. It's something a lot of people wrestle with. And the Bible tells us that the sovereign is given the sword to wield justly. And so when you talk about things like the death penalty, when you talk about things like capital punishment, we understand that it is not done out of vengeance. It is not done out of anger.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Is done, as Charlie said himself, out of valuing the life of the victim and showing that that life had worth, showing that that life had value. And by the way, it is a way to start to repay, I believe, as a way to start to repay the debt that's incurred by every single moment that was stolen from Erica, for his daughter, for his son, for every single Christmas, for every single holiday, for every single birthday, for every single baseball that'll never be thrown and caught, for able to walk as little girl down the aisle. That's a debt that needs to be paid.

[A]

That's right, Jack. And. And that's to say nothing of the debt that is owed to all of us, to everyone who is sitting here, who knew and loved Charlie in whatever way it worked for you. I mean, if Charlie could see this, he would be so proud. He would be so happy, be so lifted up by all of you. But we've all been robbed. We've all been cheated. And so, yes, we will both be watching that trial minute by minute. And I believe justice will be done.

[B]

I think it will. And, you know, I do believe that Charlie is watching us right now. And I'm sure up in heaven. I'm not sure quite what the radio schedule is, but I think Charlie's probably on from 9 to noon, and then from noon to 3 is rush.

[A]

That's amazing.

[B]

And of course, they do a handoff, because why not? But, Megan, one of the things that's come up in the wake of all of this, and, you know, people have said there's so much division in the movement. And you know, is there, is there divisiveness? Are there two sides? Are there fractures coming up? There is division. And Charlie was that uniter. So I'll just ask you the question as interviewing here today. Do you think that there has been an inseparable rift in the conservative movement that we've seen since the death of Charlie?

[A]

I mean, there's a rift, but it was starting even before we lost Charlie. And it revolves around Israel. There just is. It's gotten worse without him. He was helping us navigate it. And this is another area in which I miss him so much because I feel like Charlie and I were completely in lockstep step on this. And you guys may have seen the episode that we put out what we re released of Charlie and yours truly talking about Israel weeks before he died, where we, we had a really powerful heart to heart on where we both were who. We were both ardent Israel supporters and had both been extremely defensive of American Jewish people on college campuses getting harassed and those hostage pictures getting torn down and very outspoken about it and horrified by it. And then we had a discussion at the Student Action Summit in July where there was a passing comment about if Epstein was an intel asset, whose would he have been? Which Charlie asked me, and I said it would make sense that it was the Israelis, since he was very close with the former prime minister and the former president. And then we both got called anti Semites, like by some legitimate Jewish organizations for that conversation. By the way, Benjamin Netanyahu would go on to say I was right and we were both on our heels, but Charlie was with young people every day for a living, in particular young Republicans. And he was seeing what I was seeing in my neck of the conservative woods, which was this party's changing on the issue of Israel. I mean, when I was at Fox, you supported Israel, period. Like no one was really interested in your actual opinion. You just supported Israel. Which was fine for me because I did. But the party started to turn after 10 7. Uniform support and sympathy for Israel in 10 7. But as the war went on two years later, people were starting to turn on them. It felt like too much. And then we were under pressure. Get involved. We had the Iran bombing and so on. And the pressure started to mount on those of us who were pro Israel to not allow the doubters their say to try to censor them or disagree with them publicly or call them out. And neither Charlie nor I felt like that was what we wanted to do at all, nor was it our job. We're not the policeman of the conservative movement. I'm not. He wasn't. Ben Shapiro isn't either.

[B]

Well, well, Megan, you. You mentioned him and your name came up on this stage last night in regards to pretty much all of this. Would you like the opportunity to respond?

[A]

Well, I found it kind of funny that Ben thinks he has the power to decide who gets excommunicated from the conservative, which shows a willful blindness about his position in. Reminded me a little of when the girl who was the head of our middle school chorus told me she was going to take all my friends away from me. Chorus? A head cheerleader maybe, but. So I resent the whole thing. I object to the whole thing. Ben and I. He had the nerve to call me a friend right before he called me a despicable coward for not calling out the people he wants called out. So he both wants to parent me and be my child. He wants to tell me what I have to do and who I have to say what to. And then when I don't, he and some of his friends want to act like utter victims because I won't do what they say. They need me. I have to be their daddy and step in to protect them. And I am not their daddy and I resent that. He thinks he's in a position to decide who must say what to whom and when. Thank you. So I don't think we are friends anymore. I've been a very good friend to Ben. Nobody knew who the heck Ben Shapiro was when I started putting him on my shows on the Fox News Channel and I helped make him a star. And I've been very, very good to Ben over the years and he's been good to me too. He just recently came on my tour, as did you, and I gave him the most kind introduction I could possibly give him because I know that he's losing subscribers a lot. And so I tried to do something nice for him by giving him a long 10 minute intro and personally vouching for him. And we mixed it up on Israel, out on stage. It wasn't Israel because we're on the same place on Israel. We mixed it up over whether Tucker Carlson should be excommunicated from the conservative movement, which I do not believe and thank you. And when it was over, we hugged, said goodbye, and then we had a nice text exchange a couple days later saying our friendship was important to us. And the next thing I saw was him attacking me on stage last night as a coward. So that's not friendship and I think that's fine. With me, with friends like that.

[B]

There was also, there was also some response where it seemed like that call was being co signed by the new head of CBS News, Barry Weiss. And I wanted to know if you wanted to respond to that as well.

[A]

So it's a similar situation with Barry. None of this is about them calling me out for anything I've said or haven't said or it's certainly not about Erica Kirk as Ben tried to make it sound last night. It's about Israel. Those two are very pro ardent Israel activists, which is fine, but they don't get to dictate how the rest of us feel about Israel or what we do with respect to our friends and our friends opinions on Israel. And I'll tell you, you know, Bari Weiss wants to couch herself as Erica's protector, Erica's defender. She's tweet retweeting the Ben speech saying anybody who doesn't call out conspiracy theorists is a coward. Erica Kirk barely knows Bari Weiss. Barry doesn't know anything about Erica. Barry Weiss has never been to a Turning point event. Do you guys remember her here standing up for what we believe in when Charlie was alive? I don't remember her standing up for our principles. I don't remember her defending Charlie the many times he was called a racist or an anti Semite. I really don't remember that at all. What I do remember is she had Erica Kerr come on one town hall in which Bari Weiss tried to play both super important VIP executive and super fabulous star anchor at her new network, CBS Pro Tip. Barry, that's no way to win friends at your new organization to try to steal all the hosting abilities of the on air talent. So good luck with that. And what she did when she had Erica there was to have the nerve to bring on the man who asked the final question of Charlie right before he got shot.

[B]

Hunter. Hunter Kozak.

[A]

To put Erica in the position of having to defend whether Trump uses hateful rhetoric. The nerve.

[B]

I'll just say I, I didn't appreciate when I saw that that happened. And I don't think that that ever should have happened. I don't think that question should have been asked. And I noticed that when Hunter Kozak did that, he immediately went to try to get Erica to denounce Trump, denounce his rhetoric. This is a man who was standing in front of Charlie, in front of her husband when he died. And he never once even said to her the basic human decency of saying, I'm sorry for your loss.

[A]

It was sick. And that was a very, a very wise move because, trust me, I've done town halls. You know who the questioners are, and you know what the questions are in advance in that setting. So she knew it was coming and she thought it was appropriate to have Charlie's widow answer for Trump's violent rhetoric. I'm sorry, that's disrespectful. And I will not be taking any lessons from Barry Weiss and, and how to treat Erica or anyone else.

[B]

All right, so since we're spilling all.

[A]

The tea tonight, tea I did not want spilled for the record, I kept my powder dry.

[B]

He said I could interview you. So I'm asking all the questions here. We're turning the tables on Megyn Kelly for once. So, Megan, you mentioned something on your show recently that I know a lot of people have been chatting about. There's been a lot of chatter about this, the sit down, the peace summit heard around the world between Candace Owens and Erica Kirk. And you mentioned that you played a role in brokering this. Tell us the story, if you would.

[A]

Well, I. Erica has asked me to tell the story and is fine with me telling the story, so I will. Otherwise I would not have gotten into the details. But so from the beginning of Candace's programming on this, I've been in touch with Turning Point, and I know you have, too. We've all talked about it behind the scenes, but I've had long, long conversations with everybody at the highest levels on how to handle this. And I think everybody was confused about what the next right move was because it was so extraordinary. And I'm not going to get into the substance of those discussions, but suffice it to say that I think everyone felt the best course initially was to try to just rise above it and not respond in a tit for tat manner. And as it went on, it started to get more and more problematic for Turning Point for Erica and so on. And Erica called me, said, I want to do a sit down with Candace and I want you to moderate it. And I said, what? Say what? And I said, you know, she said a word from you would silence her on this forever. Like, she doesn't have to be. An oral word could be like a text or an email. Maybe that's the best way to see if we can put this to bed. But Erica really felt that they should sit down together face to face. And I've gotten to know Candace a little better over the past months, and I actually thought she might do it. Like, I wasn't sure, but I don't know, an invitation from Erica would be hard to resist. And she said, you know, would you please come and facilitate it? Really, just like they were going to have the discussion. But I was, but Erica's thought, and Candace originally wanted to do this too, was for them to live stream this out that same Monday that the Turning Point guys were going to livestream their event. And of course I'm like, oh, my mother of God, what am I getting myself into? But I actually felt, I felt like it was divine right order. And I have to tell you, Jack, I've prayed so many times, so many times to Charlie and, and to God to give me the right guidance on how to handle this whole thing. The fracture within the conservative movement, my friends turning on me because I won't call out my other friends like Tucker. This dust up between Candace and Erica and Turning Point in Erica, which, or, you know, turning Point in Candace, which is fraught. And yet I understand, I, I, I know people are very angry at Candace right now, and I understand it. But I have to say, and Ben, yet another thing he mocked me for was saying she was a young mother, but Candace had like literally just had a baby. And I'm sorry, maybe Ben doesn't understand, but that is a vulnerable position for a woman. And then her friend got shot in the neck. And so I did think she deserved a wide berth right after Charlie's death to explore what she wanted to explore. I had real empathy for her. And of course, I don't agree with what she's said about Turning Point Erica, and she knows that. But my point was simply that I thought maybe Charlie helped me understand to keep my powder dry and the whole thing so that maybe I could be in a position to help it happen. It's what Erica wants. Maybe Candace does want an off ramp and I'm willing to try. So Candice and I were in touch and she was very nice. She said, I'm thrilled it's you. I'll do it. So they were going to do it out here in Arizona. And then there was a security issue. Candace said that she said she couldn't come. And then Erica said, I'll go to you, I'll go to Nashville. Which is just extraordinary. I mean, Erica's been all over the country trying to honor Charlie's commitments on his book tour. She was exhausted. She had this coming up this week. I mean, she's going through, she has two babies at home who are, she's now a single mother to, but she really wanted to put this to bed and so she said, I'll go to you. And then it morphed into, let's not do the live stream, let's just do it. The two of us thought that was great. So they both went in there. Erica brought a trusted friend and employee here, and Candace had someone very close to her. And they, by all accounts, from both women, had a very good meeting. Now, will it last? Where does it go from here? I was joking earlier. Like, what's more tenuous, the Gaza peace deal or this situation? What I really want is for Candace to move on from Turning Point. Erica, I have no problem with her asking questions, but not about them. But I also. I also object, for the record, to the people who have tried to shut candidates Candace down entirely on inquiring into what, if any, role did Israel have here. And I want to make clear I don't think Israel had any role. I think Tyler Robinson killed Charlie. My only question is whether there was some trans tifa element element that helped him. However, it's okay to ask questions about Israel. And it was Andrew Colvette, the executive producer of the Charlie Kirk show, who said sent those texts to the FBI of Charlie's, those that from that private message. It wasn't a text. It was private messages, like a group chat in which he said the Jewish donors to Turning Point were driving him up on the wall and that he'd had it with them and that he. They were making demands of him that he was not prepared to meet and he was at his wit's end and he had told me personally that he found their behavior, and I quote, repulsive. So I was fine. Again, I don't think Israel had anything to do with it. But why did I have an obligation to stop Candace from asking those questions? I didn't. And I didn't call her out because I favored her asking them.

[B]

So then, Megan, what is the way forward? What is the way forward for the right.

[A]

For the.

[B]

For Turning Point? Charlie is on assignment with God. Erica is here now. The organization is here now. What is the way forward for the movement?

[A]

Look, I think we're far more united than we are divided. And I think, while I agree. Right, yeah, I think we're far more united. But I would just put one final period on the pro Israel activists, which are not to be confused with. With regular Jewish Americans who are lovely and don't run around trying to tell you what you can and cannot say. But I think they need to stop being such ardent bullies because it's dividing our movement unnecessarily. Over a country that is not ours, over Israel, not America. We need to care about America. America first is the principle that will get us through. And I think we need to remember that the people who are literally killing us, like literally killing us, are the ones who are the true enemy. These crazy radical leftists are the ones about whom we need to worry, not our own side.

[B]

You know, Megan, we only have a couple of minutes left. I just wanted to tell you. Would you guys mind if I embarrass Megan a little bit? If that'd be okay. A little bit. Hold on, hold on. I'll tell you a story because it's actually embarrassing to me that you don't know this, but about a decade ago, when I was still in the military, when I was in my Navy unit, we would be there in Navy intelligence, and of course, in my office, we only watched Fox, right? And every single day while we were watching there in the military, we'd be sitting, we would. And we would have on the Kelly file. And believe it or not, folks, this is. I just want to let you know that the people of the military, the people that I knew, people like me, who were just guys who were serving, we loved everything that you and all the people were doing to support us, to support the things that we were doing to support the patriotism that we thought that we had. And keep in mind, this was under Obama, so we were in many cases feeling very isolated, feeling very, you know, very looked aside and blamed for a lot of the things that were going wrong when we realized that these were political decisions that were happening. Keep in mind, this is the era of Benghazi, this was the era of the drone strikes, etc. Etc.

[A]

So we.

[B]

I just wanted to say that I hope you know that there are so many people in the United States military, United States law enforcement that would be out there watching you day in and day out, and there still are today. And we wanted to thank you for having our back.

[A]

Oh, Jack, that is so sweet. The fact that you would put it the. The thanks goes the other way. It does not go from the military.

[B]

Now, the embarrassing part, okay, I'm going to. I'm going to admit it. We used to kind of have like an office pool about Megan. And keep in mind, this is a couple of guys in the military. We always used to try to guess which color you would wear that day.

[A]

It being Fox. It was a high likelihood of neon pink, red or yellow.

[B]

I was always green. I always went with Kelly green. Kelly green for Megyn Kelly.

[A]

The One thing that would have cost you the bet immediately was orange. Orange. Because Roger did not allow orange. Oh, no.

[B]

Or is ever black. Occasionally black.

[A]

They didn't love black, but they would. They sometimes let you get away with it. You know why? Because there was a wardrobe leader there who really felt like the orange, like, the neon colors would pop. So somebody who is channel surfing would see, like, oh, the bright pink and a blonde head. I'll stop. What does she have to say? And lo and behold, that formula worked, and Fox News became number one within a few short years after launch.

[B]

There you go. I, you know, I've tried that myself, but I don't really have the same effect. Megan.

[A]

No, it's different in podcasting. But you have a voice for podcasting, Jack.

[B]

My dad says I have a voice radio, too. Megan, thank you so much for your leadership on this, for your guidance for brokering peace in a situation like this, for stepping up and being a leader when you could have been divisive, when you could have taken sides. But I'll say it from my side and you as well. I'm not on America's side, or, excuse me, I'm on America's side. I'm on Turning Point side. And I'm on Charlie's side.

[A]

Right on. Same, same. Sign me up. Thank you all so much.

[B]

Give it up for Megyn Kelly.

[A]

God bless. Thanks for listening to the Megyn Kelly Show. No bs, no agenda, and no fe.