Megyn Kelly Makes the Reluctant Case For Cuomo, and Winsome Earle-Sears on the Racism and Misogyny of the Left | Ep. 1178

Summary

The Megyn Kelly Show (Ep. 1178): “Megyn Kelly Makes the Reluctant Case For Cuomo, and Winsome Earle-Sears on the Racism and Misogyny of the Left”

Date: October 23, 2025
Host: Megyn Kelly (SiriusXM)
Guests: Winsome Earle-Sears (Virginia Lt. Governor and gubernatorial candidate)

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Episode Overview

This episode is divided into two major segments:

1. Megyn Kelly’s analysis of the contentious NYC mayoral race—featuring strong opinions about Andrew Cuomo, the perceived radicalism of leading candidate Zohran Mamdani, and a broader critique about the growing influence of Muslim politicians in the U.S.
2. A robust interview with Winsome Earle-Sears, current Lt. Governor of Virginia and Republican gubernatorial candidate, focusing on her race against Abigail Spanberger, her opponent’s alleged lack of courage on key issues, racially charged attacks from the left, and the misogyny she faces as a conservative Black woman.

Throughout, Kelly’s signature combative, unrestrained commentary sets a provocative tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NYC Mayoral Race – Megyn Kelly’s “Reluctant Case for Cuomo”

• Concerns Over Zohran Mamdani’s Background (03:30–07:50):

  • Kelly describes Mamdani as a “radical Muslim socialist.”
  • Criticizes Mamdani’s embrace of an imam who supported the Blind Sheikh after the 1993 WTC bombing, and a photo with Ugandan Deputy PM Rebecca Kadaga (a primary architect of Uganda’s anti-LGBTQ laws).
  • "[Mamdani] wants to pretend he's working class. He’s not... This is not like...some random person who turns out to be really harshly anti-gay. This is his country, okay? It's his country." (05:35)

• Analysis of the Candidates (07:50–10:54):

  • Curtis Sliwa, Republican candidate, is considered “unelectable” due to poor polling and campaign performance.
  • Kelly asserts there’s “no choice” but to vote for Cuomo, despite her personal disdain for him:
    • “So I'm sorry, it's disgusting, but I have to go with the guy who's gonna, like, harass me and kill off grannies over the guy who wants to, like, potentially actively turn New York into one big mosque.” (06:59)

• Call-Out on Mamdani’s Radicalism (12:50–13:50):

  • Framing Mamdani as “a wolf in sheep’s clothing...a lot like Barack Obama, only I think, far more radical.”
  • Kelly expresses alarm over increasing Muslim political influence in America, linking it to a perceived threat to “the fundamental Judeo Christian foundation of this country.”

• Cuomo’s Debate Attack on Mamdani (14:26):

  • Cuomo: “I did things. You have never had a job. You've never accomplished anything. There's no reason to believe you have any merit or qualification for eight and a half million lives... Shame on you. Shame on you.” (14:32)

• Mamdani’s Counterattack – Bringing Up Cuomo’s “Sex Pest” Scandals (16:02):

  • “What do you say to the 13 women that you sexually harass?” (16:24)
  • Cuomo’s defense: “There were allegations...they went to five district attorneys, fully litigated...the cases were dropped.” (16:35)
  • Kelly’s comment: “Noticeably absent from his defense was the ‘I didn't do it’...He can't say that. Obviously, we know why.” (16:58)

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2. National Politics & Left-Leaning Media Critiques

• Jen Psaki & The Left’s Attacks on J.D. Vance (19:20–20:32):

  • Psaki refers to J.D. Vance as a “little Manchurian candidate...willing to do anything to get there. I mean, he's scarier in certain ways. He's smarter...and he’s a chameleon...” (19:21)
  • Kelly: “You absolute fucking morons. You know nothing. You know nothing about MAGA, you know nothing about J.D., you know nothing about Trump.” (20:13)
  • She strongly defends Vance and his wife, Usha, against what she terms demeaning leftist psychoanalysis.

• Sunny Hostin and Race in America (26:32–27:03):

  • Hostin recounts telling her local police not to “harass” her Harvard-bound Black son jogging in their white neighborhood.
  • Kelly criticizes this as performative and rooted in “no gratitude for what this country's given her. Zero.”

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3. Virginia Gubernatorial Race — Winsome Earle-Sears Interview

The Jay Jones Texting Scandal & Democrat Silence (36:27–40:30)

• Viral Debate Moment (36:27):

  • Sears chastises Spanberger: “Abigail, you have little girls. What would it take? Him pulling the trigger?...Abigail, you're running to be governor.”

• Sears’ Critique:

  • “The people of Virginia want somebody with a backbone and not cunning.” (38:59)
  • Spanberger’s response is criticized as being about the timing of the text release, not the content:
    • “What does it matter?...It matters that murder was advocated for one's political opponent.” (40:32)

Transgender Policies and Girls’ Safety (43:10–44:13)

• Kelly on Spanberger:

  • “She wants to have it both ways...She won’t just come out and say, 'I’m going to rescind the order.' She wants to sort of pacify.”

• Sears’ Response:

  • “She's going to make sure that all of Virginia adheres to boys being fully undressed in locker rooms with girls...She voted for it...So let's not ask if she supports. She voted for it. It’s what she wants.” (43:10–44:13)

Immigration and Sanctuary Policies (47:32–48:38)

• Spanberger’s position: Against using local police for civil immigration infractions.
• Sears’ reply: “It’s very simple: If you are a criminal and you're illegally here, you gotta go. Why do we want you?...We're talking about the worst kinds of criminals. Pedophiles, murderers, rapists.” (48:38)

Race and Leftist Racism (50:30–54:17)

• On Hostile Attacks from the Left:
  • Sears: “You know who always reminds me that I'm black? The Democrats. And it’s in some racist form or other.” (50:30)
  • Discusses real-life harassment and explicit racism, including a rally sign comparing bathroom access to Jim Crow-era water fountains and “go back to Haiti” slurs.
  • “I'm used to this. I'm back into politics after being gone for 20 years and apparently we still need a whole lot of prayer.” (54:17)

Misogyny and Women in Politics (55:13–56:17)

• Sears on exclusion from mainstream feminist narratives:
  • “Do they think that Republican women don't count?...Come on, what else do I need to do to prove that I'm quite capable?...Apparently, Republican women don't count.” (55:13–56:17)

Trump’s Potential Endorsement (56:17–57:50)

• Sears: Open to a Trump endorsement, whatever fits the campaign strategy.

Key Closing Remarks

• Sears: Confident about victory, credits campaign with practical wins (economic investments, job creation), contrasts with Spanberger’s record.
• Kelly: Urges audience to “get off [their] couch” and vote for Sears. “She needs the help.” (61:14)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments w/ Timestamps

• “There’s no choice right now. You’re going to have to vote Cuomo. I’m sorry...Curtis can’t win and...it’s disgusting, but I have to go with [Cuomo]...” — Megyn Kelly (06:59)

• “This is a scary time for America, for New York...Does anyone care that Islam is not consistent with...the fundamental Judeo Christian foundation of this country?” — Megyn Kelly (12:50)

• “You absolute fucking morons. You know nothing. You know nothing about MAGA, you know nothing about J.D., you know nothing about Trump.” — Megyn Kelly addresses left-wing pundits (20:13)

• “You know who always reminds me that I'm black? The Democrats. And it's in some racist form or other.” — Winsome Earle-Sears (50:30)

• “Do they think that Republican women don't count?...Apparently, Republican women don't count.” — Winsome Earle-Sears on misogyny from the left (55:13)

• “I'm used to this. I'm back into politics after being gone for 20 years and apparently we still need a whole lot of prayer.” — Winsome Earle-Sears on enduring racial attacks (54:17)

• “I am an overcomer. Our children are overcomers.” — Winsome Earle-Sears (52:22)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |---------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:47–06:59 | NYC Mayoral debate breakdown; concerns about Mamdani & Cuomo endorsement | | 07:50–13:35 | Campaign dynamics: Sliwa, Mamdani's record, Muslim leaders in U.S. cities | | 14:26–16:58 | Cuomo/Mamdani debate exchange; sexual harassment allegations | | 19:20–20:32 | Jen Psaki & leftist pundits attack J.D. Vance | | 26:32–27:03 | Sunny Hostin recounts telling police about her son; Kelly's critique | | 34:08–35:36 | Panel preview: Texas tour, upcoming guests | | 36:27–48:38 | Interview: Winsome Earle-Sears, Virginia’s Jay Jones scandal, debate moments | | 50:30–54:17 | Sears on race, being a conservative Black woman and racial attacks by the left | | 55:13–57:50 | Misogyny; being excluded from “women’s progress” narrative; Trump endorsement | | 61:14 | Kelly’s final call to action for Virginia voters |

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Tone & Style

• Bold, combative, and personal: Both host and guest speak with unfiltered candor, using strong language and direct challenges to political opponents and the media.
• Populist: Emphatic concern for “real Americans,” traditional values, and American exceptionalism.
• Defensive of conservative women and minorities: Sears, in particular, frames her identity and values as evidence of left-wing hypocrisy on race and gender issues.

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Summary

This episode is a vivid snapshot of current American political divides, threaded with Megyn Kelly’s acerbic wit and unapologetic biases. The first half is dominated by a “reluctant” endorsement of Andrew Cuomo in the face of what Kelly views as the unacceptable radicalism of progressive candidate Mamdani in NYC. The second half uses the upcoming Virginia gubernatorial race as a framework for inveighing against Democratic hypocrisy on matters of race, gender, policing, and immigration—with Winsome Earle-Sears delivering pointed, personal rebukes to those challenging her legitimacy as a conservative Black woman. Both host and guest argue that the real intolerance and bigotry is found on the left.

This episode is valuable listening for those who want a window into contemporary right-wing messaging, critiques of the progressive mainstream, and the lived experience of a high-profile Black conservative woman in American politics.

Transcript

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[Megyn Kelly]

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[Andrew Cuomo]

Take a picture with Rebecca Cadaga, Deputy Prime Minister of Uganda. You take a picture with your father. You're smiling. He's smiling. She's known as Rebecca J. Killer. Question. You're a citizen of Uganda. You took the picture. You said you didn't know who she was. It turns out you did. How do you not renounce your citizenship or demand BDS against Uganda for imprisoning people who are gay just by their sexual orientation? Isn't that a basic violation of human rights? Thank you guys for watching.

[Winsome Earl Sears]

My politics is consistent, and my politics is built on a belief in human rights for all people. And that extends to queer and trans New Yorkers, and it extends to queer and trans Ugandans. And had I known that the first deputy minister was the architect of that legislation, I would not have taken that photo.

[Megyn Kelly]

Okay, so he's from Uganda. The guy's a citizen of Uganda. And he doesn't know that this woman who is at the top of the leadership structure in Uganda is so far anti LGBTQ rights that she looks like she's basically an like a David Duke type on those issues. She pushed harsh, harsh anti LGBTQ policies that included life imprisonment for gay people just for being gay. That's, that's the story in Uganda in 2012. Then Speaker Kadaga infamously said she was passing a draconian law imposing severe penalties against practicing homosexuals as a Christmas gift for supporters. She said, you want that law as a Christmas gift? We're giving it to you. So she wants and passed a law that made it a life imprisonment offense for people who are gay. That's terrific. What a nice lady. Who he was posing with for photos. This is not like some random. It's not like you were yours truly going like through Uganda on a tourist trip and posing, you know, with some random person who turns out to be really harshly anti gay. This is his country, okay? It's his country. She's a very well known politician. And the laws in Uganda in general are terrible, terrible for gays. It's got one of the world's harshest laws for gay people. Same sex activity is illegal for both men and women in Uganda and does require life imprisonment thanks to his good buddy who he posed, who he posed in the photos with. Chris Lynn, who's the co founder of the Stonewall Democratic Club in, in new this is the city's first LGBTQ club, said he's either a liar or incredibly ill informed. Come on. No one thinks he's that ill informed. He knew. And this imam he was with who's like totally pro terror, pillar of the community, he hasn't even tried to distance himself from that. He hasn't even tried to say, I didn't know about that one. He's like, yeah, pillar, okay? That's who we're about to elect. I'm sorry, it's. There's no choice right now. You're going to have to vote Cuomo. I'm sorry, with all due respect to Curtis Lewa, I can't stand Cuomo. But Curtis can't win and we're now so tight in terms of the election. You got to get real. How are we going to elect this guy, this imam loving, this terror loving imam loving Mamdani, as the next mayor of New York? Curtis Levi, I respect, it's just he wasn't able to get it done. His numbers are too low. He's not a realistic candidate. That's the truth. So I'm sorry, it's disgusting, but I have to go with the guy who's gonna, like, harass me and kill off grannies over the guy who wants to, like, potentially actively turn New York into one big mosque. I just, like, okay, here is an extraordinary exchange. Poor Curtis. I mean, he's really in the thick of it, and I feel for him. But he called into. We mentioned yesterday, and. I'll get to the debate in one second. He called into wabc, his radio station, where he has a radio show, and got into it with Sid Rosenberg. We had part of it yesterday. Now we've heard more. Listen to this exchange between these two guys as they went at it.

[Sid Rosenberg]

You're like, you're running against Momdadi anymore. I really don't. This hatred for Cuomo, which you've got 100 times over, like Janice Dean has, has enveloped you to the point. Well, I think you're losing sight of who you're running against. I go to your page. I got to go. 12 goddamn tweets before I see Mom Donnie's name.

[Curtis Lew]

Let me tell you. I'm talking to WABC now. I'm hurt. I have armed security guards now protecting my life and Nancy's life. I've been bribed by the billionaires to drop out of here. If anything happens to me or anything happens to my wife because of this frenzy that I hear constantly coming from some of your colleagues here at wabc. It's on you guys and you gals. Even when the Gotti's and Gambinos put a hit on me. Five hollow point bullets. I never had armed security. The frenzy that is coming out of people's mouths. He's running a horrible campaign, Sid. Can you at least acknowledge that?

[Abigail Spanberger]

No.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I don't know. Because I want you or him to win. Now we're 10 minutes in and you're still talking about Cuomo. I mean, what's wrong with you? You gotta beat Mom Donnie. You gotta get over it. You're gonna lose, and you're gonna lose badly. Embarrassing.

[Curtis Lew]

You know this. You're the one who said that Cuomo would win the primary, didn't you?

[Sid Rosenberg]

No, no, no. First, yes, I did, and everybody else, because nobody saw Mom Donnie coming. So stop with the Cuomo. I talked to you. No, you didn't know. You didn't.

[Curtis Lew]

WABC has turned on me.

[Sid Rosenberg]

This is not about abc. It's about Sid, forget about abc. Curtis, you made your. You, Major. You made your point about the station. Now it's Sid and Curtis trying to have an adult conversation. The way you're running your campaign right now, you're going to lose and lose badly. You're still not talking about Mamdani. You're talking about WABC and Cuomo. That's not going to win you this goddamn race.

[Megyn Kelly]

So this is the position that New Yorkers are in. You can hear Sid's frustration because he knows what we all know, which is Curtis is going to lose and Mamdani is going to win. And the only possible way of stopping it at this point is for Curtis to drop out and to beg his supporters to vote for Cuomo and for Cuomo to give Curtis a role high up in the Cuomo administration if he were able to pull it off. But even the polls suggest that even if he got every single one of the Curtis voters, he'd still be behind mom, Donnie. So even that is not a guarantee. This is all, like, desperation by the non Mamdani fans to try to stop his momentum because he's a wolf in sheep's clothing and he's charming and he smiles a lot. He's a lot like Barack Obama, only I think, far more radical. This is a scary time for America, for New York. You know, we've. We've got. Got a Muslim mayor of Dearborn, Michigan, who's threatening to throw out white people who object to certain disturbing behaviors over in the community, calling them racists. We've got Omar Fateh running for Minneapolis mayor. This guy, also Muslim. Like, are these people. What. What exactly are they going to do to Minneapolis? I mean, truly, because the. The Midwest is becoming heavily Muslim. Do we care? Does anyone care that. That Islam is not consistent with the. The patriotic goals of the First Amendment, the Bill of Rights, and the fundamental Judeo Christian foundation of this country. Does anyone care? Okay, you can call me a bigot. I've been called it before. I don't care. This is not what we want. We do not want city after city turning Muslim and electing Muslim leaders. I just watched a half an hour interview with Mamdani last night where he was going on and on about the mosques in New York and driving up the Muslim population and, and how it's his dream to see the BDS movement spread far and wide. You know, condemning Israel and boycotting Israel and how his. His whole reason for becoming a politician was Palestinian rights. That's the thing he cared most about, Palestinian rights. By the time he actually got going on the mayoral campaign. He realized he had started. Had to start. Stop saying things like that. He had to start saying, oh, all I care about is economic inequality in New York. No, he actually said that was his number one thing, Palestinian rights. And his dream was to bring more politicians like that into the fold in New York. This is going to be the New York mayor. So, I mean, it's go time on the decisions and don't like, if this can happen in New York, this can happen in your city. I'm sorry, but it's time to just say no. I. I respectfully dissent. You want to come over here as a Muslim, you want to be raised as a Muslim, you want to totally assimilate to American culture and values, you're welcome. But you talk about how your number one thing is Palestinian rights, and your big push is to boycott and divest from Israel and you want to run from. For mayor as New York while you're literally embracing a terror supporting imam and on a debate stage questioning why others haven't been to this mosque or that it's in New York, as though that's a requirement to become mayor. You're out. Cuomo, his biggest shot at Mamdani last night sounded just like his other big shot at Mamdani in the last debate. Here it is in SOP 21, and.

[Andrew Cuomo]

I allocated more funding for housing than any governor in the history of the state of New York.

[Abigail Spanberger]

All right?

[Andrew Cuomo]

I did things. You have never had a job. You've never accomplished anything. There's no reason to believe you have any merit or qualification for eight and a half million lives. You don't know how to run a government. You don't know how to handle an emergency. And you've literally never proposed a bill on anything that you're not talking about in your campaign. You had the worst attendance record in the assembly, and you gave yourselves the highest raise in the United States of America. You went from $110,000 to $140,000, and then you never showed up for work and you missed 80% of the votes. Shame on you. Shame on you.

[Megyn Kelly]

It was good. And it was more fiery than he was in the last debate, but it wasn't great. Where's the stuff I just said? That's actually what's gonna animate New Yorkers. You're not gonna get any One of the 9% Muslim voters, Andrew Cuomo, not one. So don't bother pandering. Like, just say what's real. We all know what's real. This guy is so radical. It's incredible to me. I feel like the voters of San Francisco would reject this guy. And New York City, the main target of 911 is about to to elect this guy who's not even sorry for his bestie. Imam, pillar of the community. Comments? Here's what mom dummy had to say about Cuomo. He brought up the sex pest allegations, which of course. Of course he did. It was a smart thing to do and he did it.

[Winsome Earl Sears]

Saw 21 of those women. Charlotte Bennett is here in the audience this evening. You sought to access her private gynecological records. She cannot speak up for herself because you lodged a defamation case against her. I, however, can speak. What do you say to the 13 women that you sexually harass?

[Andrew Cuomo]

If you want to be in government, then you have to be serious and mature. There were allegations of sexual harassment. They were then went to five district attorneys, fully litigated for four years. The cases were dropped. Right. You know that is a fact. So everything you just stated, you just said was a misstatement.

[Megyn Kelly]

Okay? Just because a prosecutor didn't see crimes that were committed doesn't mean he didn't do it. Noticeably absent from his defense was the I didn't do isn't true. Like that would be a good place to start. He can't say that. Obviously, we know why. I mean, I think we all know what's gonna happen in this race and it's gonna be positively devastating for New York. And I'm very sad about it. Really sad that we're in this position. It's a crown jewel of the United States and we're about to hand it over to. To an. A radically left person. Some Republicans are excited about it because they're looking forward to making the point about how radical Democrats are for this guy's term. I get it. But it's not worth it. And some Democrats are looking forward to it because they want socialism. They actually think it's going to work, no matter how many examples you give to them of it not working. And you will run out of other people's money. There's not enough already. Millionaires and billionaires are fleeing New York. I told you the story the other day. Even our apartment, which we sold in 2021, has lost 30% of its value just over the last four years. Like it's on the market again. And we saw that it's down 30% in the asking price from when we sold it. 30%? Almost like over 30. That's because people are fleeing. They'll take any price right now. To get out of the city. Say a prayer for New York. Okay, let's keep going. Amazingly in the news, the attacks on J.D. vance have begun. We're not even a year into Donald Trump's presidency and already the left is laying the foundation, which we knew they would, but it's already starting. That J.D. vance is even scarier. He's even more radical than Donald Trump. He's really the one that we have to fear. Uh, this is Jen Psaki who appeared on this crazy ass podcast which we talked about yesterday. And I don't even know this person. It's. I can't remember her name, but she's very radical. Jennifer Welsh, Is that her name? Yeah, she's a nutcase. And she's been getting more and more vocal because she says really radical, weird leftist things. She's a, she literally has no political background or anything else to recommend her opinion. But here she is hosting Jen Psaki. And here are Jen Psaki's deep thoughts on JD Van Sat 16.

[Abigail Spanberger]

I think.

[Jen Psaki]

The, the little Manchurian candidate, JD Vance wants to be president.

[Megyn Kelly]

How's he mentioning else?

[Jen Psaki]

Yeah, I, I always wonder what's going on in the mind of his wife.

[Megyn Kelly]

Like, are you okay?

[Jen Psaki]

Please bring. Blink four times. We'll come over here, we'll, we'll save you.

[Megyn Kelly]

You're a bitch.

[Jen Psaki]

And that he's willing to do anything to get there. I mean, he's scarier in certain ways. He's smarter in some ways. And he's young and ambitious and ambitious and agile in the sense that he is a chameleon who makes himself into whatever he thinks the audience wants to hear from him. Now what's also true though is JD Vance is not, he's in some ways good ish on paper. If you like what he believes in, I don't know. But I don't know that he can take the whole movement with him.

[Winsome Earl Sears]

No way.

[Jen Psaki]

I don't think so either.

[Abigail Spanberger]

His.

[Megyn Kelly]

No Riz, these women know nothing.

[Abigail Spanberger]

Right?

[Jen Psaki]

And he's got, he just is a little OD and totally Trump's odd in a different way. So I'm skeptical of that. So yeah, he's got to. I mean everything going on right now and I think we have to be very clear eyed about this is about trying to manipulate the public around elections.

[Megyn Kelly]

There's so much to digest there. Okay. The fact that these two far leftists, I don't know who the other nimrod is next to that first hateful person, but the fact that these two blonde women, these two Trump hating Blonde women whose only badge of honor is their hatred of Trump. Their TDS, they're gonna weigh in. J.D. vance, you don't know shit. You absolute fucking morons. You know nothing. You know nothing about Maga. You know nothing about J.D. you know nothing about Trump. And I love, love, love that some portion of the left is being misled by these three losers. This is great. This is wonderful. For team sanity, JD Vance 100% can do it. He's going to do it. Sorry to break it to you ladies, he's going to. Why is a 46 year old woman, Jen Psaki, using the term Riz? That's already been rejected by my 12 year old, okay? So get with the program. You only sound old when you try to sound like a prepubescent teenage boy or girl. Okay? Jen Dora. Dora the Explorer. That's how we see Jen Psaki. So she doesn't know what she's talking about. She. The nerve of her to describe Usha as some sort of a hostage. Now listen, first of all, you're a white woman and you should not be talking about a brown woman this way. Your party sets these rules and you have to live by them. When a brown person has opinion of any kind, you have to put on your listening ears and maybe take a beat. We've heard that from your side. All right, so you are not allowed to say that Usha Vance is in a hostage situation just because she's married to the current vice president, whom she happens to adore. Jen Psaki. I guarantee you don't know Usha Vance. You've never spent two minutes with Usha Vance. Those of us who have know one of the first things you notice about her is how deeply in love she is with her husband. Why don't you read Hillbilly Elegy? Why don't you listen to two minutes of what JD Vance has said in his public interviews? These two have a classic, wonderful, moving, deep American love story. In. In many ways, Usha saved JD his whole life is a story of women coming to his rescue. His big sister Lindsay, when his mom was hooked on heroin and drugs and bringing man after man into their home. It was a rough upbringing. His aunt, we, his grandma, of course, his mama, who was the primary and dominant figure in his life. And then he went off to law school and it was Amy Chua, professor there, and Usha who saved him from the demons that can come from a lifetime of being brought up in that kind of an environment. And those two have a relationship that will never be broken. Usha is far from a hostage. If anything, she's a rescuer. She's somebody who swooped in and was exactly what J.D. vance needed at exactly the right time. And he had, I'm sure, and she hasn't spoken to me about this personally, But I'm sure JD's bare knuckle, brawling, you know, background and self effacing personality and approach to life was probably very appealing to her. She's from more of a buttoned up background. So off Jen Psaki for trying to psychoanalyze Usha as a hostage, which again, according to the rules from your side you're not allowed to do. Put on your listening ears and maybe take a beat. Then she refers to JD as a Manchurian Candidate. What does that mean? Manchurian Candidate is somebody who, who gets like sneaked into the presidential role and is controlled by a foreign country. What foreign country is JD Vance controlled by? Who? Controlling him. JD Vance is actually very focused on the United States of America. He's the one, more than Trump even, who doesn't want us to get involved in these international conflicts and create situations where we might have no choice but to put American boots on the ground. Who? Who is controlling him? Who is it? You fail to say. You just pass gratuitous insults off as somehow sophisticated political analysis and the two morons across from you had no idea what you were saying, so they let it slide. He's a chameleon. She has the nerve to say he JD Vance is a chameleon. This from Jen Psaki, whose nominee for the presidency a few months back was Kamala Harris. Have you no decency, man? My sorrow joy cometh in the morning. That, that Kamala Harris. I think you have your chameleons confused, Jen Psaki. So that's what's happening over on the left. And by the way, a gratuitous insult that he's ambitious, right? Like literally every person who ever ran for vice president or president. Okay, I guess we can pretend it's just a J.D. vance thing. Whatever floats your boat. Okay, let's keep going. Sunny Hostin is out there with some comments about the white people in her neighborhood. Now, not for nothing, but if you take a picture, if you take a look at Sunny Hostin over the years, she's getting progressively whiter, like over and over. In these pictures she, I don't know what she's doing with her makeup or whatever, but she lives in a white neighborhood and she looks like time after time. You see these photos of her where her makeup is about as light as mine is. So I don't know how she feels about white people, but every time she speaks out about them publicly, she's got the blonde hair tips and nine out of her 10 appearances and whatever, she's ripping on them as racist. So I'm kind of confused about where she stands on whites, the whites who live in her very tony neighborhood in Purchase, New York, she thinks are racists. She surrounded herself with a bunch of racists and chosen to raise her children about, about, around a bunch of racists. How do I know? She just told us. She was talking about how she, she allegedly had to go out there and, and warn the cops in her neighborhood about her son who was running and training for the Junior Olympics, who is black, that he's hers. Well, I'll let her tell you. Watch.

[Sunny Hostin]

As a mother of black children, I know that black boys are not given the presumption of innocence and the presumption of youth. She's calling the police and saying they're trying to steal her car. And they're 11 years old, they don't know how to drive. And so for me, what was interesting was I have had to be in the position where I have gone to my local police department because I know my son is going to be training for the Junior Olympics, running around the neighborhood in an all white neighborhood. And I have brought him to the police and said, he belongs to me. This is my son. Do not harass him. Do not stop him.

[Megyn Kelly]

Okay? She was talking about this new Netflix show that is called the Perfect Neighbor that documents a white woman shooting and killing dead her black neighbor through a closed door. They had been having some sort of a dispute and it had been getting more and more heated and the black neighbor's children had bothered in some way the white woman. They had a heated exchange and the black mother came over to, you know, settle the dispute in some way and this white woman shot her through the front door. By the way, the woman was charged with manslaughter with a firearm. She tried to argue self defense and stand your ground. It didn't work. The jury found her guilty. She was sentenced to 25 years in prison. So that's what happened in that case. And Sunny Hostin wants to liken her neighborhood and apparently her neighbors to this woman talking about how I guess she thinks she's surrounded by racists and she had to go down to the local police to say, he's mine. What does this mean? He's mine. So I guess he gets like her son went to Harvard. She's still trying to pass him off like he's a Trayvon Martin character. Would you take a seat and calm down? If you think you're surrounded by so many white racists and, and racist cops, why don't you move? You don't need to live. Oh, I'll tell you why. Because she's living in a multimillion dollar mansion. Here's the video she sat for. She. She let People magazine come in and take video of it. Look at this palace. This is poor Sunny Hostin who basically wants you to think she's. She's living in some, you know, working class, terrible white neighborhood with a bunch of white racist backwaters who hate black kids with their white racist cop force who wants to kill her black boy who's just jogging through the neighborhood. This is such a bunch of bullshit. She lives like a queen. Her son went to Harvard. They're fine. Most people would give their eye teeth to get a house like this in Purchase, New York. So why doesn't she just st. Fu. I've had it with these fakers who have all the advantages of being born and living in America and the American dream coming true for them. She's a successful attorney in addition to this job on the viewer. She gets millions of dollars a year and still can't let go of this underprivileged status. Like I'm. I'm just a victim of racism everywhere. And my poor Harvard educated son is too. And these racist cops would have killed him. They would have shot him on his runs had I not paid a visit to say he is mine, Sunny Hostin. So this one you have to let live what that. What world is she living in? It's completely made up. It's made up. There's no gratitude for what this country's given her. Zero. She's not grateful. Just like Michelle Obama, not grateful at all. She's another Karine Jean Pierre all about race. It's all about her race. That's what leads for her whenever she enters a room, no matter how many blessings the country has bestowed on her. And it's pathetic. All right, we got to move on because my next guest is in a very, very heated race. And the future of the Commonwealth of Virginia does depend on her winning it. Unfortunately, her adversary, who appears to actually be a true coward. I mean, you, you watch this Abigail Spanberger in these debates and all you think is this is a coward. She won't stand up for girls rights or women's rights when it comes to the trans issue. She won't stand up for the rights of Virginians versus Illegals and she won't even stand up for people who are across the aisle from her who are being threatened with murder or their children are by the radical who's running to be Attorney General on the same ticket she's on the Dems. So up next is Virginia Governor candidate, the current Lieutenant Governor of Virginia, Winsome Earl Sears. Stay tuned for that. And when you are buried in credit card and loan debt, it's human nature to put it off and say I will deal with this later. 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[Winsome Earl Sears]

There's a true seismic shift going on right now. Watching the Democrats, it's amazing that they're so far out of touch.

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[Andrew Cuomo]

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[Abigail Spanberger]

May I have another?

[Megyn Kelly]

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[Megyn Kelly]

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[Abigail Spanberger]

Book, Rachel, is there are actually a number of reasons.

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[Abigail Spanberger]

Yeah, you ain't gotta believe me. Just go Google. You'll find some of it.

[Megyn Kelly]

Sugarland, San Antonio, Fort Worth. It's gonna be so much fun. So go get your tickets right now before they sell out. Megankelly.com I can't wait to see you. All month we've been telling you about the fallout of Democrat Virginia Attorney General candidate J. Jones's sick texts where he fantasizes about the murder of a Republican colleague and the murder of that colleague's children. The scandals having a big impact in the Virginia Attorney General's race and has led to a tightening at the gubernatorial level as well. Here's a reminder of the viral moment from the Oct. 9 debate between Republican winsome Earl Sears and Democrat Abigail Spamberger, both running for governor. Watch.

[Abigail Spanberger]

Why my opponent won't say, beyond its abhorrent and disgusting, why she won't say it is not okay and that he must leave the race because Jay Jones advocated the murder. Abigail. The murder of a man, a former speaker, as well as his children who were two years, two and five years old. You have little girls. What would it take? Him pulling the trigger? Is that what would do it? And then you would say, he needs to get out of the race, Abigail. You have nothing to say? Abigail. What if he said it about your two children, your three children? Is that when you would say he should get out of the race? Abigail, you're running to be governor.

[Megyn Kelly]

For the listening audience, Abigail Spamberger just stands staring blankly ahead, does not look at winsome Sears, does not make a comment, has no comment. And that's clear. The polls have tightened a bit since the scandal erupted, but the Democrat Spamberger still leads by about six points in the Real Clear Politics average of polls. Here now to tell us what to expect in the final 12 days before the election, Lieutenant Governor of Virginia, winsome Earl Sears. Thank you so much for coming on. Lieutenant Governor, it's a pleasure to meet you. I'm. I'm worried. I'm worried because I want you to win. But she's been leading in every single poll that's been taken. I can't find one in which you're leading. So what? What can be done in 12 days?

[Abigail Spanberger]

Well, you saw what happened in one night, and there are all kinds of things that are happening, but we have the poll and the poll and she's not acting, by the way, Abigail Spanberg is not acting like she's seven points ahead. You look at her and she knows that her polls are telling her what our polls are telling us, that we're either minus two, we're break even, or I'm up to. And that's why you see that she's doing all she's doing. She's pulling out all the stops. She's bringing everybody in the world that she. That she thinks she will help her, but it won't help her because it really comes back down to common sense. It comes back down to she is not supportive of a different political side. You know, her nominee for attorney general, Jay Jones, advocated for political murder. And she says what she's disgusted. Is that all she's disgusted about, political murder? Well, yeah, she's not going to make it because the people of Virginia want somebody with a backbone and not cunning.

[Megyn Kelly]

After that debate, she went on just the other day with Katie Couric, and this subject came up again, and she seemed more irritated about how the texts came out than she did about the content of them. Let me play. You sat 36, he wrote some texts, and they were released, basically advocating for political violence against his opponent. And the Democrats in your state and other states, I understand, have renounced his rhetoric, but they have not called on for. Called for him to drop out of the race. And I'm just curious, why is that?

[Abigail Spanberger]

I think there's a couple elements here, and I'll speak broadly, but also reflecting my own opinions. You know, these texts are years old, and so they have been held for years and not released over the summer where it would have been a valuable bit of information for voters to have. There could have been a different name put on the ballot. And so people can choose how they view these texts and view, frankly, actions of the last four years of our current attorney general, who's running for reelection. And certainly, you know, I make no bones about it. The decision is. Is harder. These texts were abhorrent, but it is ultimately up to individual voters to make a decision at this moment in terms of how they wish to proceed.

[Megyn Kelly]

Your thoughts on that answer?

[Abigail Spanberger]

Yeah. So what you saw there is Abigail Spamberger is not a profile in courage. And all she cares about is when the text came out. What does it matter? It matters that murder was advocated for one's political opponent, Jay Jones. And Jay Jones also advocated for the murder. Two bullets to the head of his little children, two and five years old at the time. And she's concerned about Winnicke. You know what. What I think about now is that Katie Couric's sister was a senator, a state senator right here in Virginia. And certainly I'm thinking that Katie is thinking there's something incongruent with all this, that, as a matter of fact, we had a Democratic governor, Ralph Northam, and he was found to be either the one under the KKK sheets or the one in blackface. And that was 30 some years ago and still the Democrats called for him to leave office. These text messages advocating for murder were three years old and we're still talking about murder. And Abigail, instead of her saying, well, you know, we've just got to get you out of the race. No, no, no. She says the people of Virginia must decide. Again, not a profile in courage. She knows what to do. So does it mean that as a Republican we are not safe? But remember, Abigail is also the one who told her supporters, let your rage fuel you. What rage, Abigail? And fuel what, Abigail? And against whom or to what end? Abigail, you're running to be governor. These people who say, these Democrats who say that they love everyone more than any Republican ever could, actually, they don't. And the ones who say these Democrats that they are so very tolerant, aren't exactly tolerant, unless of course, you believe their own views. We can't have somebody like this in Virginia. So that's why, you see the polls have tightened. She knows the truth. We're going to win this.

[Megyn Kelly]

What do you make of the fact that she refuses to be clear on whether she would rescind Governor Youngkin's executive order banning boys from girls spaces, saying you cannot have boys and girls locker rooms and bathrooms and so on? She seems to want to have it both ways because her position, if you sift through it and it takes some time, seems to be, I think it's up to the locals, let the locals decide. But she won't just come out and say, I'm going to rescind the order. She wants to sort of pacify. So what do you make of that and what will happen on that issue if she becomes governor?

[Abigail Spanberger]

We already know what's going to happen. She's going to make sure that all of Virginia adheres to boys being fully undressed in locker rooms with girls and men. Also because it's happening in Virginia where adults, adult men's are now going into girls locker rooms and bathrooms, et cetera. And the reason I say that is because she didn't just support that idea, she voted for it. So let's just see what the voting record says. And she's trying to run from that record. So let's not ask if she supports. She voted for it. It's what she wants. And when I asked her point blank on the debate stage, what if your young child, your little girl, came to you crying that she was forced to undress in front of a man in the locker room, what would you say her and Abigail said nothing. She had a smirk on her face, she adjusted her posture and you know, like, who are you to talk to me? Who are you? You know, but that's why we're going to win, because people see the real Abigail and it doesn't look like she cares.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, that's, I can't believe she's doing as well as she's doing. I realize Virginia's gone blue. And Trump didn't win Virginia though. It was tight, tighter than expected. But it's just gotten so blue from all those D.C. federal government workers who live in Northern Virginia. But given everything that's happened in Loudoun county with the girl being the victim of a sexual assault in a bathroom by a boy, we've had a couple of incidents there. There's another big case in the news where a so called trans boy, a girl pretending to be a boy, went into a boy's locker room and started recording actual boys. And the, and the boys got suspended from school for objecting to like Virginia's lost its mind on this issue. I can't believe there's not still a majority who see the insanity and are ready to vote for you, not her. This must be a deal breaker.

[Abigail Spanberger]

Well, some people in Virginia have lost their minds, but the people with common sense haven't. And my policies will work for Democrats, children, Independents, children, Republicans, children. Here's what we do know to be true in Virginia when the real polls are being looked at and that's where people are actually showing up. Because, you know, we've early voting started way in September 19th. Those polls that are Republican leaning, we are showing up at 80 to 90% to vote. In the Democratic polls, they are showing up at 50 to 60%. So those are the polls that really matter. And we have been winning every single week since voting started. And we are still converting people. The debate is converting people. Subsequent actions after the debate, still converting people. And just today I was hearing about one gentleman, he said there are five women who are Democrats in his office, absolute Democrats. And one of them came and said, I'm going to vote for winsome. And another few are not far behind. So we are turning hearts and minds because people just want to live in peace. You know, you do what you want to do and let me live too. Don't want to control my life. What is really turning people, I think also are the pocketbook issues. I don't want to pay more in taxes. I worked hard for this money. I ought to be able to keep as much of it as possible. We returned $9 billion back to Virginians B9 billion. They like that. Abigail was never a part of any of that. Doesn't know how to do it. We brought all these jobs to Virginia. Just announced a $3.5 billion Merck investment in Virginia. A $4.5 billion investment from AstraZeneca, a $5 billion investment in Virginia from Eli Lilly. These are real jobs. These are real families creating generational wealth. Buy a house, get on the path to having a will so we can have something to fight over. I mean, these are real issues. Keeping people safe. No sanctuary state in Virginia. We have found 4,000 criminals who are legally here on their way to some form of deportation. The number three, Ms. 13 gang leader right here, trend narago cartels, communist Chinese party leaders, they are gone. My opponent, Abigail Spamberger, has voted to keep every single one of them here when she voted against Riley Act.

[Megyn Kelly]

Let me play. Let me play her on this issue, on whether the local police and the state police should cooperate with ICE. This is her in June.

[Abigail Spanberger]

Sup40 Anyone who has violated the law, committed a crime should be prosecuted. And ultimately, if they don't have legal status, deported after that.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right?

[Abigail Spanberger]

That's in the criminal space. But the use of local police and state police resources to enforce civil immigration infractions, not only is it not actually doing the work of ensuring that those who have committed crimes are out of our communities or held accountable, but it's actually a distraction of resources both in terms of personnel hours and money from actually keeping our community safe from, you know, any sort of community, you know, by ensuring any type of community policing, let alone any sort of law enforcement action.

[Megyn Kelly]

What's your response to that? That it's a distraction? That the cops should focus on local crime?

[Abigail Spanberger]

Yeah. Oh, my God, Megan. I'm surprised that you even know what she said. It's a. It's a word salad. I mean, where do we even start? And then there's also the fact, I mean, she seems so tortured. Tortured. I was exhausted watching her. I mean, her whole body. It's very simple. If you are a criminal and you're illegally here, you gotta go. Why do we want you? And we're talking about the worst kinds of criminals. Pedophiles, murderers, rapists. Abigail's panberger. This isn't hard. You gotta go. Why do we want to keep criminals here? You said you came. Well, for an opportunity, but you didn't. You're taking the opportunity to prey on us. And ICE wants them gone. We want them gone. We must live in peace. Our children must be able to walk the streets, our business inventory must be safe, etc. We can't have her. Abigail doesn't know how any of this works. As a matter of fact, she's going to need on the job training. But she's not going to get it because I've been doing the work. Where has Abigail been? Oh, that's right. Hiding one of 435 in Congress. And now she has to stand on her own. She can't do it. I'm ready to take command on day one. I'm a Marine. I know how to do this.

[Megyn Kelly]

I love that, that you served your country honorably for a few years in the United States Marine Corps. Thank you for doing that. I wanted to, unlike we did a segment before you came on talking about a little bit about Karine Jean Pierre and Sunny Hostin too, who always, always lead with race. They're obsessed with their own race. Karine Jean Pierre has failed to not. She has made sure to mention the fact that she is black and quote queer in every interview she's done to promote her book. You're the opposite. You happen to be black. I never hear you make an issue out of this. It seems like a totally different approach to race. And the fact that you, you know, your, your blackness is incidental to who you are. Can you just speak to that a bit? Because I'm overwhelmed with the obsession on this issue of on the left, let me tell you.

[Abigail Spanberger]

You know who always reminds me that I'm black? The Democrats. And it's in some racist form or other. And yet they're the ones who supposedly love black people than more than Republicans. And they're supposed to love women more than Republicans. And apparently they're also supposed to love immigrants more than Republicans. Well, where is the love? Show me the love. Don't tell me you love me. Show me. But of course we know it's not true. You know, these Democrats, thankfully, it's not all of them, but some of them, they're fighting the Civil War all over again. They will never let the wounds heal. They keep ripping the scab off, ripping the bandage off, because it serves their own purpose. Meanwhile, the rest of us, we just want to get on with our lives. I mean, here I am. Here I am, Megan, in Virginia. I have to win my own race as Lieutenant governor on my own. The governor does not choose me. The people of Virginia choose me. And so the Republican Party nominated me. Think about that. The big bad Republicans dominated me, a female black immigrant. And then the people of Virginia chose me. I am second in Command Reagan in the former capital of the Confederate states. My God, have we not changed? Have we not changed? Why do we keep doing this to each other? Let's just get on with our lives. Let's live long and prosper. You know, I'm a Star Trek fan. Let's allow people to be. We care about the pocketbook issues again. Are my children being educated? Am I going to be safe? How are you going to help me? Are you going to make my life harder than it already is? Are you going to break down the barriers? What are you going to do? That's what the people want to know. Not these constants, you know, race, race, race and more race and overcomer. And you know all this nonsense. Come on. I am an overcomer. Our children are overcomers.

[Megyn Kelly]

Typical of the left. However, the people who have been hurling racist insults at you have been leftists. We saw this sign at a rally held up by a leftist that reads, hey, winsome, if trans can't share your bathroom, then blacks can't share my water fountain. Not sure it gets more racist than that. Then there was this leftist at a ball game the other day who offered the following. Forgive me for playing it, this guy's name is Scott Pogorick and shouted that you should go back to Haiti, where from which you do not hail. But let's just look at it, Sat 39. Turns out this guy works for Lockheed Martin, which is now looking into these allegations. He's, I think, suspended for the time being. Your thoughts on what you've been subjected to by the tolerant left?

[Abigail Spanberger]

It's not anything new to me, actually. When I first ran for office 20 some years ago, 2000, when I ran for our house and I was told the very same things back then, and in fact, I was called everything but a child of God and all I was doing was running for office. And by the way, I had death threats back then and they were so credible that my house and my phones were wired by the state police. I had children and my mother called me from Jamaica and said, they're going to kill you. And I said, no, mom, they don't do that in America. So, you know, I've had the brunt of this. I even had to take a protective order out against my opponent's supporter and he violated it and was subsequently jailed. And guess who his attorney was? My opponent. And so, see, this is nothing new. I'm used to this. I'm back into politics after being gone for 20 years and apparently we still need a whole lot of prayer.

[Megyn Kelly]

Megan, so you're a woman running against a woman. Enter another woman, Mika Brzezinski, with this searing analysis. Take a listen to this one. Stop 35. It really is incredible when you have Abigail Spanberg on Mikey, Cheryl, her background, all the different jobs that she has held in the military, and also like Alyssa Slotkin. I mean, my God, these women are incredible. And to them, I would say fight, fight, fight, because we need them. I mean, this is something that a lot of Democrats are grappling with right now as they've elected, they've nominated women two of the last three elections for the presidency, lost both. There are some who say, well, we can't do that again. The stakes are too high. But of course, that does fall into the same misogynistic trap. Other countries have no problem electing women. Your thoughts on how this applies to you, who she mentioned, Apparently I'm not a woman.

[Abigail Spanberger]

Is that right? Misogynist. Think that we're not alone. I mean, Megan, I, I know I'm a woman. Nobody has to tell me that I know I'm a woman. I can spot a woman. I mean, this is nonsense. Do they think that Republican women don't count? And what about the credibility of being running for office? I mean, I led a men's prison industry. I had a women's homeless shelter, mopped the floors at a food pantry, but had my own business. I've been the CEO of businesses, a Marine Corps veteran. I mean, I have done it, you name it now, Chamber of Commerce, you know, LED programs, etc. Worked for other politicians. I mean, come on, what else do I need to do to prove that I'm quite capable? And here I am also Lieutenant Governor. Is that not enough? And then I was elected again 20 years ago to the House of Delegates and got bills passed, bipartisan, you know, these Democrats, I don't think they stand for anything. Apparently, Republican women don't count.

[Megyn Kelly]

How helpful would it be to get an explicit Trump endorsement? He said very nice things about you. He said the Republican candidate is very good, she should win. He definitely wants you to win. But he hasn't done the full Trump endorsement like on True Social. And I mean, I don't even know, would it be helpful for Trump to any. Do any campaigning for you, given how purple Virginia is and how he. He didn't ultimately win the state. This can cut both ways for a Republican.

[Abigail Spanberger]

Well, we welcome whatever strategy that the President has. You know, he's got a lot of people advising him, and that's good. Trying to keep these microphones and they don't want to say it. But, yes, whatever opportunities are available with the president, we welcome them. You know, look, people understand what the, the parameters of this campaign are all about. It is not lost on them that I have supported President Trump. And so, and even if it were, my opponent has been telling everyone that anyway, so we all know what's happening. We're going to win. We're going to win because we have the right ideas. And again, the right ideas and the common sense ideas where they're trying to paint me, the Democrats, as, you know, somebody who will not look out for the people. But of course, the people know better. Again, I didn't run immense prison ministry for two years if I didn't care. I am not soft on crime, not by any stretch, but I don't believe in throwing people away either. So we're going to hold you accountable, but then we're going to make sure that you leave incarceration better than you came in, because we need you to be the moms and dads that your.

[Megyn Kelly]

Children need to be. What most concerns you before I let you go about the possibility of a Spanberger victory, I am not concerned because.

[Abigail Spanberger]

She'S not going to win. We're making it. As I said, we're making the case. The people are showing us that they're coming to the polls and they're thinking, they know that we were the ones, the Youngkin Sears administration, that provided all the economic benefits that they're seeing. She, Abigail was never a part of any of this. She's going to drive business away. She's going to force everybody to join a union, whether they want to or not. She's gotten over, what, $1.5 million now from unions. Win Some has gotten zero, which means they know the unions, know who will force people to join unions. My opponent, Abigail, has voted for that in Congress. They know that they're not going to be safe with her because she's going to get rid of our police, she's going to defund them, and she's going to get rid of their qualified immunity, which is why I have 81 different sheriffs, a historic number, supporting me. And they're Democrats, Republicans and Independents. I mean, all the signs are pointing to that we're going to win despite these polls.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, we will continue watching it. We wish you all the best of luck. Lieutenant Governor Winsome Earl Sears, thanks so much for being here.

[Abigail Spanberger]

Thank you.

[Megyn Kelly]

Wow, that's, that's a big one. Virginia, go out and vote. How can you go from Glenn Youngkin to Abigail Spanberger. Truly, like, how could you do it? Talk about a downgrade. And not for nothing, I think I told this story, but I'm just gonna remind you, this is what a good man Glenn Youngkin is. When I went to the Charlie Kirk event at Virginia Tech, and by the way, Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin did not need to go to that. This was right after Charlie died. It was two weeks after and tensions were still high. And he showed up anyway and he did not have to do that. You know, originally it was just gonna be yours truly and Charlie. So he was a late hitter and he went willingly and he shows up there. I think I told you this. He led us in a prayer before we went out there, which really settled everybody's nerves. And then on top of that, when he left, he came with a great security force because he's the sitting governor. When he left, he left the security force for me was so sweet. I mean, he's the governor, right? But he wanted me to feel safe and be safe. Total classy, great guy. You're going to follow up that act with Abigail Spanberger. Why not go for the person who will carry on the Youngkin legacy? Winsome Earl Sears has shown courage. She served our country honorably. She's standing up for girls and for women. She will protect Virginians against the crime being committed by illegals and by others because she's in favor of a robust police force. There's no contest here here. Just, I really hope the Republicans who, who are sitting on the couch and thinking it doesn't matter get off the couch and make sure they go and cast their vote for her. She needs the help. You know, I, I know she says the internal polls, but let's be honest, those rarely come, come through in the end. The, the public polling has her behind in every poll, but she doesn't have to stay behind. There are 12 days yet to go. You can get off your couch and go vote for her.

[Winsome Earl Sears]

Her.

[Megyn Kelly]

And I urge you to do it. Uh, okay. We are going on the road for Megyn Kelly live for the rest of the week. We're going to have tonight's conversation with Donald Trump Jr. And Jesse Kelly as our show tomorrow. It's going to be really fun and I know we've got a lot of curious inquiries as to how the tour is going to sound and what it's going to look like. So you will see tomorrow. And if you would like to join us on our 10 city tour, go to Megan Kelly.com to get your last minute tickets and sign up if you want for the VIP meet and greet so you and I can shake hands and have a picture behind the scenes. Lots of love to you all and I'll see you soon. Thanks for listening to the Megyn Kelly Show. No bs, no agenda and no fear. Let's be honest, America can still be a dangerous place and you cannot afford to wait for help if you need it. Sure, you could use a firearm, but in today's America, defending yourself with deadly force could have legal consequences. According to FBI data, 99.9% of all altercations do not require lethal force. And that's exactly why many are turning to Burna. Burna is proudly American hand assembled in Fort Wayne, Indiana, these less lethal self defense launchers are trusted by hundreds of government agencies, law enforcement departments and private security companies. Over 600,000 burner pistols have been sold, most to private citizens who refuse to be victims. Burner launchers fire rock hard kinetic rounds and also powerful tear gas and pepper projectiles capable of stopping a threat from up to 60ft away. No background checks, no waiting periods and Burner can ship straight to your door. Take responsibility, Protect your future visit Burna.com right now or your local Sportsman's Warehouse. That's by r n a.com or your local Sportsman's Warehouse. Visit now and be prepared to defend.

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