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Most Bizarre Met Gala Moments, Why Blake Lively Settled, and CRAZY New JP Morgan Exec Story Details, with Red Scare | Ep. 1310
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Megyn Kelly breaks down the most ridiculous and bizarre Met Gala moments, featuring Madonna, Katy Perry, Lena Dunham, black "trans" quadriplegic "model" with cerebral palsy, Lauren Sanchez Bezos' alarming face, and more, then Megyn talks about the Blake Lively settlement with Justin Baldoni, the key detail that Lively received zero money, what happens next with Lively and her career, and more. Then Red Scare hosts Anna Khachiyan and Dasha Nekrasova join to discuss the shocking new details about the male accuser in the JP Morgan female exec story, the revelations that he once told his employer his father died when he's still alive, the wildest Met Gala moments, why Nick Fuentes remains popular, the truth about his offensive commentary, and more. More from Red Scare: https://open.spotify.com/show/2uux6PcmzX2FPxfGyeeFOc DailyLook: https://dailylook.com to take your style quiz and use code MEGYN for 50% off your first order. Herald Group: Learn more at https://GuardYourCard.com Brook...
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welcome to the Megyn Kelly show, live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at noon East. Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly Show, a massive show for you today, including our take on the settlement between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni that broke yesterday afternoon shortly after we went off the air. I've got a lot of thoughts on this. I'm pretty sure I know exactly why it happened, and I have a prediction. Things are only going to get worse for Blake Lively from here, and we'll walk you through why. But first, last night was the 2026 Met Gala. We're out. Dutch elites get to show off their bizarre fashion choices, often with hidden messaging for us peons to ponder. This year's theme was costume art. It's basically a dress code of fashion is art. Don't understand it. No one does. You're not supposed to. It's just supposed to make them feel better than you and you feel dumb. You don't get to understand high fashion. 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Buy what you love, send back the rest. You will get free shipping both ways. It's time to get your own personal stylist with with Daily Look. Head to DailyLook.com to take your style quiz and use the code Megan to get that 50% off your first order. Once again, that's DailyLook.com for 50% off. And make sure you use our promo code Megan so they know that we sent you one last time. Dailylook.com promo code M E G Y N There are so many choices to highlight and mock this year it was very hard to know where to start. But we will begin with the 67 year old Madonna, okay. Who ditched her signature blonde curls and lingerie in favor of a more gothic, witchy, shipwrecked look. Look at her. At least she has clothes on the ship on her head. Had a scarf so long it needed its own payroll. Seven people carried it. Seven to carry the train from the ship on her head. She was also carrying a horn instrument. For some reason, I, I don't know why. It's again, it's not for you to understand. It's just to confuse you and ideally for you to feel dumb because you don't get it because you're not Madonna or Anna Winter. We're going to get right to probably the worst, the absolute worst. I mean, honestly, like just when you think Lena Dunham cannot get any homelier, she shows up at the Met Gala after a seven year absence from the public eye. A seven year delightful absence. And she's shaved off her eyebrows and seems to have gained even more weight. Not only that, but her enormous shins and calves are covered in some sort of weird mark. She's got obviously some sort of a skin condition. They don't appear to be bruises. It's like, I don't know, weird little warts or moles or like I, I have no idea what's going on. But in addition to her other obvious problems, she appears to have some sort of a skin condition on these very large legs. She's got calves that look like thighs. I'm sorry, she's the one leaning into her obesity. We're just being subjected to it. She did embrace the year's theme in the form of a red feathered and sequined Valentino gown. And again, shaved off her eyebrows. That literally looks good on no one. Stop doing that. Women of America. It's amazing because you had. And I'll get to Nicole Kidman in a second, but Nicole Kidman showed up in red sequence and was, of course, stunning, but I have some thoughts on her. And then this was like, you know, like if Nicole Kidman. It was like an angelic figure. This was like demonic. I mean, Lena Dunham, she looked like a stuffed sausage in the thing. It was just so unflattering. A corpulent lady can look decent. It is not like. That is not. Not possible. She just chose to assault us visually with this gown, which looks like something my housekeeper uses on my kitchen pantry shelves. It's just. Look at it. She can't even make it up her. The stairs. I don't know if that's because of her size, her being out of shape, or her dress, which, you know, went down so low. Maybe it gave her, like, the little geisha legs. I have no idea. I didn't really mean to say little legs because that's not what we were seeing. But Lena Dunham, I. I forgive you, but it was tough for me to get there. Model Heidi Klum made a fool of herself. She loves a good costume. This look was apparently inspired. Look at this, look at this. I don't. I don't actually know what's going on here. It had something to do with the Acropolis and, like, one of the handmaidens of the Acropolis. I'm not sure what that means. I was recently at the Acropolis and I don't remember anybody who looks like that anywhere. Like, look at her. She looks kind of like a white version of the Statue of Liberty. So she told Vogue that after getting inspired by the. The 1846 sculpture Veiled Vestal, she wanted to, quote, become her. And so she transformed herself into a living stone sculpture. She told Vogue, I look hard, but I'm soft. It's foam and latex. You don't look recognizable, which, I mean, you know, it's kind of. It defeats the point of what Anna Wintour wants, which is for all of us to be noticing the. The A level celebrities and how fashionable they are. I think that's probably. I. I just answered my own question. No offense to Heidi Klum. She seems like a nice person, but she is not an alias celebrity. She'll show up to the opening of an envelope. She's basically on every singing reality show is just, you know, your basic good looking guest. I mean, honestly, she's not really even a star, so I guess it makes sense to go completely unrecognizable. One of the most criticized looks of the night was former astronaut Katy Perry. She chose a rather unconventional look, though. It was kind of a cheat from Kim Kardashian's look a couple of years ago. She was sporting a white Stella McCartney gown with a long train. A face full of metal. Okay. It's like a full metal mask. I mean, honestly, Kim Kardashian did this a couple years ago where she had a mask that hit her face like I do you really want to be following a Kardashian on the style choices? Like, you know, but maybe she does because she's, you know, good friends with Lauren Sanchez, who is good friends with all the Kardashians, so it's possible she doesn't find that shameful. She had matching white gloves for the face mask. The gloves were, of course, six fingered. Was that a nod to her treason trip to outer space and what she saw? Did she see aliens during her 12 minute trip up and back down? Have you been okay? People magazine reports that the weird mask was a nod to Perry's public performance as art. It was a. It was a nod. You see, here she is on the steps leading in, and it was designed to be, quote, a literal and symbolic reflection that invites the observer to consider that their perception of others can mirror their own internal war world and conversely, mask truth. It's a long way of saying, stop writing mean things about me. I'm an absolutely lovely person, and I don't want to be bullied for allegedly shoving my vag in some unsuspecting young woman's face to the point where the woman vomited. And a criminal investigation into me is now underway in Australia. That's okay. Yeah. That's your issues reflecting on you. From my mask. Actress Sarah Paulson. This is. She was the AOC of this year's Met Gala. She wore a dollar bill mask made out of leather to reflect the 1% being blinded by money. Fucking. Are you kidding me? This woman's worth at reportedly over 12 million. I guarantee you it's more like 30 million she's worth. The designer said the collection was a reflection of the greed and corruption that comes with extreme power. The Met gala costs roughly $100,000 per person. If you were to buy a table, it's $350,000. So just stop with the lectures on elitism and wealth from the people who attend this thing. The stars don't pay. You get invited, you know, by Anna or by somebody who bought a table. Anna has to approve those too. So like if you're Estee Lauder and you swoop in and buy a table for 350,000, you can't just invite who you want. Anna Wintour has to tell you who from your company can come. What self respecting businessman would agree to this? Grow a pair. Honestly, it's like so humiliating. So in any event, they still want to lecture us on money. Okay, you're, you're at the Met gala. Get a clue. Also sporting a blindfolded look, actress Rachel Zegler. You know the woke Snow White. She was in the 2022 live action remake for Disney. She decided Snow woke was snow woke. Yeah, that's what she should have been called. It wasn't woke enough. Calling the original quote extremely dated when it comes to the ideas of women being in roles of power. Look at her bizarre movements with her arms in her mouth. Look at this. What even is this? I don't really know what she's doing. She's. She's in an outfit that she says was Inspired by the 1833 painting the Execution of Lady Jane Gray. Gray was beheaded by Queen Mary the First. Well she's like she's blindfolded because they're gonna chop her head off. Okay. Some of her fans believe that this was a reference to her own encounter with cancel culture and how she was wrongfully scapegoated for, for being a annoying person. How is she wrongfully scapegoat? Like she, she is annoying and we all called her out on it. Then there was the very bizarre. This guy's so freaky and bizarre. I won't listen to his songs. Like very few people when their songs come on the radio, I'll make an active effort to press, you know, forward or rewind or skip. This guy's one of them because he's so creepy and disturbing and obsessed with the sexualization of. Of children in some imagery devils. His own enormous. He makes Lena Dunham look like twiggy. And that's 33 year old British pop star Sam Smith. He's disgusting. He describes himself as non binary. He goes by they them of course. So he naturally showed up wearing a dress, an embellished black gown weighing 52 pounds. And let me tell you something, he, he didn't need any extra pounds put on him, okay. His coat was adorned with over 230,000 crystals and beads hand placed by a team of 45 artisans. Over 800 hours of work. Imagine, imagine like having to work on one of these gowns and thinking, oh my God, who am I getting? Am I getting Nicole Kidman? You know, am I getting like Zendaya? No, you're getting the fat. They. Them. Sam Smith, devil worshiper. Oh my God. Now this is Hunter Schaeffer. Hunter is a 27 year old man dressing up as a woman for the red carpet. Schaeffer is an actor on the HBO show Euphoria. He showed up in a Prada gown inspired by a painting of a nine year old girl. Why is a man showing up to the Met Gala depec depicting a little girl? You're fucking sick, okay? You're sick. Sam Smith is sick. Anna Wintour is sick. And by the way, Lauren Sanchez Bezos, as an honorary chair of this event, which you paid $10 million to be, are you okay with this? Like, do you actually sanction a grown man showing up dressed as a single digit girl? These people, honestly, they're so out of touch. Anna Wintour, the 76 year old Anna Winter. You're good with this. Is that art to you? The exploitation of little girls by grown ass men? What, what part of high fashion are we not getting here because we don't want any part of it? Then there were the moments that we're supposed to just like witness but not say anything about. This one's truly bizarre. Everyone's like talking about it, but like they're, they don't want to actually say what they're thinking. This is Aaron Rose Philip Phillips being lauded as making history at the Met Gala for being, and this is not a joke, the first African American transgender model with cerebral palsy, in a wheelchair no less, to attend the event. I mean, like, is she a lesbian? That's that. I think that's the only thing she's missing. She is she lesbian. Like this is like, okay, we all know what they're doing here. She was born in Antigua, raised in the U.S. she's 25 years old. Is this she or he? I don't know. I don't know. It's a trans person. I, I have no idea what the natural sex is. And as you know, I like to go by normal, like natural biological pronouns. But I got to be honest, I have no idea what they are here. This person was signed by Elite model management in 2018. This person has been featured on the COVID of Vogue, Billboard, Chris on X. Who we love, who stands up to the trans mania like nobody else. Writing, quote, the trans industry never found A person they will not use and abuse for profit and propaganda. They'll even give cross sex hormones to a quadriplegic with cerebral palsy. I can't. Okay, this is, it's ridiculous. Okay. We also had to endure the women will go to extreme lengths to never age. I'm talking extreme. 76 year old Vera Wang showed up dressed as a 10 year old boy. I think that was her costume. I'm a 10 year old boy. I mean I have a 12 year old boy, so I know what the torsos of young boys look like. And this is it. Absolutely no breasts, absolutely no waist. Just a rectangular torso is before a young boy's shoulders have grown outward. And that's what she looks like. She looks like a pencil straight up and down. Just a pencil made of lead. Absolutely no curves. I guess she's just the middle of the pencil. The tip top would be curved her head. But she looks terrible, honestly. She's got a little like a she. It looks like a chest binder. Except she has no breasts really to bind. Vera Wang is flat chested. That's fine. She's leaning in. I guess this is the new thing we're supposed to lean into the super flat chested look. It's gross. I'm sorry, it's gross. Her hair is bleach blonde. She's like all skin, skin and bones with one arm and a puffy black sleeve. Move on, Vera, move on. Okay. Lauren Sanchez Bezos. I have to be honest, I expected more. I thought at least she said she'd have some like sort of big fashion statement, that we would be like, oh, okay, you know, cool, whatever. No, this is. She could have worn this anywhere. This is so boring. It's like a blue dress with that, it's, you know, top. It's not topless. It's you know, strapless. It's got a V to show off her enormous fake breasts. Okay? That's what she shows everywhere. She's very, very proud of her massive fake bust. I mean, it's not like something we can't all have. Literally just pay your doctor and you can have her size, triple, whatever, breasts. It's not hard. But she too seemed to be desperately trying to look like a Kardashian. But I've got to be honest. Not as good. Not as good. But let me tell you something. The real problem with Lauren Sanchez Bezos. I gotta call her Lauren Sanchez Bezos now. I mean, honestly, I don't understand, like you're 55 year old woman, 56, who changes her name at that point. Okay? But she. Here's the problem with her. It's not the dress, which was a boar. It's the face. It is the face. She is so pulled and prodded, she looks, Doug called it like an alien. I mean, which is perfect given what she did with outer space. Look how pulled and prodded she is that the cheeks Sister, I'm going to do. You have all the money in the world and I know that you can correct this. You go to your. Not your surgeon. You clearly have the wrong one. Go to a good sir. Go to. Go to a New York surgeon. Get out of Miami and la, because they've gone, they've done wrong by you. You go, you tell them you want that filler out of your face. You tell them you want that filler out of your lips. You tell them they've done something to your eyes that's making you look cross eyed. I don't know what it is, but you look cross eyed. Now, you never looked cross eyed before. At least I don't have a long history of studying your face. But in your younger pictures, you did not look cross eyed. You then find a way to cover up some of your large forehead. And then you ease up on the Botox. Unless you've had a forehead lift and it's no longer movable. Like, I get it. I have Botox. I'm going to show you right here. Look, here's me back on camera. You get it? I have the, I have the Botox. But I can do this. I can lift my eyebrows and I can lower them. It's not huge. I can do it enough. But that's because I say to the derm, I want some movement. I don't want to be frozen. Lauren, my, my friend, that's what you need to tell your doc. I want some movement. Take out the filler. And if you have a big saggy face, when you've gotten your filler taken out of your lips and your weird cheeks, everyone's starting to look Asian. They're putting so much filler and whatever in their face. They're all starting to have squinty eyes and look Asian, which is fine if you're Asian, but she's not. She's Latina, Latinx. So if everything is saggy, then you can get the Kris Jenner facelift, which would serve you much better than what you are doing. All right. She's worth $280 billion. Now, through marriage, she's never publicly, publicly confirmed whether she's under undergone any procedure she doesn't have to. It's fine. It's not technically any of our business whether she has or hasn't, but, you know, we're allowed to speculate. And, and like, online, people are saying she has more plastic in her face than a Tupperware factory. And that's how it looks to me, too. It's just, it's. It's too much. Okay, um, I'm going to go through a couple more standby. Take a look at this woman. Chloe Mal. Chloe Mal. She is the new head of editorial content at Vogue. Okay, you would be forgiven if you did not know that this person is basically the new Anna Wintour. Look at this frumpy orange tangerine who dared to walk on the Met Gal. Look at her posture. Young girls everywhere, okay, young girls everywhere, look at this posture. This is no way to present yourself to the world. Shoulders back, people stand tall, as erect as possible toward the ceiling. You put your shoulders back, you lower them down, you elongate your neck and your head. Ideally, always, but certainly when you are at the Met Gala, she is instead forward shouldered. She's like, eliminated her neck as a body part. She's kind of looking over her shoulder. She looks a little troll. Like, she's got rounded trapezius making her look hunchbacked and ogre like. And on top of all that, she's wearing a hideous. It's not even really orange. It's like more tangerine of a dress that does not look like art at all. Doesn't look like art. Now, a word, a couple of other words. You've got Nicole Kidman who showed up in all red sequins with a lot of feathers in the middle of her dress. It was reportedly by Chanel. And she looks stunning. Because Nicole Kidman is, of course, taking care of herself as she ages. She's in her low 60s now, I think 62. And she's got the long, long, long blonde extensions down below the butt and the huge, huge, huge red feathers around the waist. And her figure is so spectacular. And she's spectacular. And she's a genuine Hollywood A lister. And that will complete the list of Hollywood A listers who are at the Met Gala that, like, I'm just going to tell you, there weren't many others. So I just want to say she looked great. She looks stunning. I love the dress. I don't know that it matched the fashion is art theme. That didn't look like art to me. Just looked like a dress that she looked amazing in. Same for Margot Robbie. Boring. You look so boring. Your, your hair was boring, your dress was boring, your pose was boring, and you were boring. And that's unfortunate because, you know, you, you too can look stunning. But you chose not to Zoe Kravitz to some black lace number. Boring, boring, boring. I didn't find it interesting at all. But almost no Hollywood A listers. I guess Margot Robbie's also a Hollywood A lister, but none of the big stars, honestly. Like, where were the big stars? Apparently they tried to move heaven and earth to get Meryl Streep to co chair the event because she's of course in the Devil Wears Prada and the devil wears Prada 2, which just hit. Just hit theaters portraying a woman called Miranda Priestley. But it's obviously Anna Wintour. And they begged her, they begged her to come to the Met Gala and they. She'd get the full Anna treatment and the, you know, red carpet. And to her credit, Meryl Streep was like, oh, hell no. I have zero desire to do this. I don't want to go. I don't want to dress up. I don't want to rub elbows with these people. It's a no. And it was very interesting because this year you had a bunch of stars who showed up. The Daily Mail was pointing this out. Without their male counterparts. Zendaya was there without Harry Styles, to whom she just got no. Wait, was it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? No, no, it was Zoe. Zoe Kravitz. She was there without Harry Styles and Katy Perry was there without Justin Trudeau and Kylie Jenner was there without Timothee Chalamet. Here's Zoe Kravitz. Boring, Boring. It looks like something I put on on Halloween. Just hand out kanity the kids. Justin Bieber wasn't there, but Hailey Bieber, Hailey Baldwin Bieber, his wife was like, the guys basically said no. And Timothee Chalamet, who's dating Kendall Jenner, he was down the road at the Knicks game. The men are over it. They are over it. And good for them because nine times out of 10, if you're a man and you show up at this thing in costume, like on point, when it comes to the style, you look like a flaming homosexual, which most of them aren't. So it's a problem, right? If you are, hey, what do you do you. But like, if you are a straight man, like Justin Bieber, you don't really want to show up gay, have everybody speculating for days just how gay you are, because you were a very gay outfit, which all of these designers are. And they, they work out their weird gay fantasies on these male actors or singers who show up. So I applaud those guys for not going. And as a result, their female counterparts just showed up, walked the red carpet. That was it. That's what it's all about. But the genuine A list Hollywood talent wasn't there and hasn't been there in years. There was no Brad Pitt. There was no Leo. There was no Tom Cruise. There was no Robert Downey Jr. There was no Liam Neeson. There was no Dwayne the Rock Johnson. There was no Will Smith. There was no Denzel. Like, those people do not attend this thing. It is now much more like the C listers who you're like, what do I know Sarah Paulson from again? I can't think of one movie I know her from. I know she was dating the woman. Who's the woman from? I don't know. It's the David E. Kelly series, the Practice. Who played a judge, Holland Taylor. Thank you, Steve. Okay. Oh, I guess the Rock was there. Okay, we got one. We got one big male. Literally a very large male. But my point. You got my point. You know, it's like you really gotta look, you gotta really squint your eyes to be like, is there anyone, anyone who, who I recognize who's there? Like, who are the fashion leaders of tomorrow? I don't know. I don't think they were there. I think it's the girls on Instagram who are showing us how to style an outfit. I think those are the ones that most normal Americans are actually looking to if they want a fashion tip. They're certainly not going with Katy Perry's weird matte, weird mask on the face situation. And Anna Wintour, by the way, you looked gross. I don't know what you were wearing. It was very ugly. Some green monstrosity. It didn't work. It wasn't flattering to you? She's very, very anti black gowns and black clothing. Well, I mean, it might have served you well. I don't know if you made a good choice in wearing what you wore. So I don't know. I think it's, it's, it's a fail. Where was Jennifer Lawrence, Emma Stone, Sandra Bullock? I don't know. Instead we got people. I had to look up and people like Heidi Klum. Of course there were the Kardashians. Kim Kardashian was there. Kendall Jenner, as I think I mentioned. And the other one, Kylie. Kylie Jenner is the one who's with Timothy. Shall Chalamet always screw them up. I'm going to tell you the truth. I thought these three look great. This is Kendall. She's the supermodel that's stunning. When she puts her arms out, it makes enormous wings and she looks great. This woman looks great in anything. She said many, many plastic surgeries. So if you are a very homely person, sitting at home thinking there's no hope for you, you totally should feel inspired by, like, if you. If you had a few surgeries, you could look like her, because trust me, she looked nothing like this. When she was 13, 14, 15, we all watched her and Keeping up with the Kardashians, but she looks stunning now. And I thought the fashion was gorgeous. Kim. And on this pointy, like, orange latex number, I thought she looked great. I. I thought she looked stunning. Her body looked great, her hair looked great and she looked great. And Kylie, the one who's dating Chalamet, looked awesome too. I loved her outfit. It was weird. It was like latex with the pointy Kylie with the pointy boobs and the. There was even a belly button situation going on there with like a bodice on the bottom, like the. A train on the bottom that looked like it was almost falling off of her. So that was kind of sensual but not inappropriate, which is, you know, the Kardashians can go inappropriate and they didn't. I have to say, I would definitely put all three of them on. My best dressed look. And the mom, Kris Jenner, wore a kimono. She looked good. I liked her outfit. So for once, I'm giving a thumbs up to the Kardashian four. The other sister, Courtney, never shows up. And then there's another sister too. There's two sisters that never come up. There's Kim. She looks great. I mean, I thought she would. She looks stunning. Let's hope they stayed out of the bathroom. And the dry humping like I saw the last time I was at the Met Gala. For those of you wondering, when you go into the Met Gala, it's really all about that walk on the red carpet, or last night it was the green carpet. That's kind of it. That's what the event's all about. You walk up it. There's. They treat everybody who's not a celebrity like, you know, the people who paid to be at those tables, like they're nothing. I mean, it's really shameful. Like those poor people, like the people who have no public name run up those stairs in shame because no one's interested in them. Even Though they look fantastic, they've done it. But, like, no one cares if you're not, like, Beyonce. Whatever. You go in, you mill about. You look at the displays in the museum. You're looking at the celebs. You're taking selfies even though you're technically not supposed to, but everybody does. And then you sit down for dinner that most people don't eat because no one eats when they're in these gowns. And then you move to, like, an area for dancing. When I was there, I can't remember who was there the first year, but the Weeknd was there the second year. They had some good entertainment there this year, but nobody really dances because they're in these enormous high heels. Like, I can't. It's all just about a photo op. It's not about actually bonding with anybody, getting to know anybody. It's a photo op. It's a massive PR event. Oh, I forgot to mention the Williams sisters. Venus and Serena. Venus, total bore. I put her in the category with Margot Robbie, the Swing and a Miss. You looked utterly boring. I don't remember anything about your dress. There was some lace, I think, on your head. Serena, I don't remember what you wore last night, but your. Your outfit for the night before was dreadful. It was back on the red sequence theme, and it was. It went all the way up her ass. I saw total ass of Serena Williams, which, you know, it's a lot. And the dress was cut all the way up to show ass and a rather large leg. And it was just inappropriate. Okay? It was inappropriate. She's too old to be this needy. That's generally my takeaway with these people who are older and show so much skin. Like, I really hope that Karina is younger than I am, but I really hope that when I'm, like, Madonna's age in my 60s or Vera Wang's age, 76, I am not that needy. I do not need someone to see my fully naked torso or. Or ass here. In Serena's case, in order for me to feel sexy or good about myself, that's like, this is just not. It doesn't work with a huge, long, blonde wig, of course. All right. It ended with a return to the Met Gala. Here. Blake Lively making her very first Met gala appearance since 2022. And on the same day, she reached a settlement in her lawsuit against Justin Baldoni and Wayfarer Studios, his studios, over the film. It ends with us Lively telling Vogue, quote, I haven't been to the Met since giving birth to my fourth child. Every year I am a different version of myself than the last. So to be able to stand in the version of myself that I am today, who talks like that? To be able to stand in the version of myself that I am today and all the experiences I have had in, in strength and confidence is important to me. These are lies. No one who actually feels strong and confident talks about themselves like that. I sit here at the anchor desk in my strength and confidence to bring you the news. Nobody talks like this. Like she's just trying to give you the adjectives she wants you to repeat about her because she has not those things. I mean, true, I said this to you many times but like the 6 foot 7 center doesn't tell you how tall he is. If they, if somebody is telling you the adjectives they are in this way, it is an ultimate, ultimate tell that they don't feel those things about themselves. So she does not feel strong, she feels weak, she does not feel confident. She is, she has suffers from a lack of confidence which seems very obvious because she's a bully. And that's how all bullies are. They, they none of them has confidence or feel strength. That's why they have to behave like that to make them feel those things for a moment or two. And she is a bully. And I have a lot of thoughts on this settlement, why it came about and why it had to happen. And some new reporting on exactly what changed hands to make this lawsuit go away. And we will talk about that right after this quick, quick break. 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Megyn Kelly
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I mean, you know, my prediction is that this is going to get worse and worse for Blake Lively. And the reason it's going to get worse and worse is people are going to be more comfortable telling the truth. And what this is about is really the truth. And she's put Jamie Heath and Justin Baldoni in this position of being called sexual predators, sexual harassers. They have no choice but to go all the way. No choice. So, you know, we're going to go all the way. And the unique thing again in this case is going to be we're going to put every single text message out there, we're going to put every email out there, we're going to put every document out there that's relevant to the case, not something that's disrespectful or otherwise would embarrass Ms. Lively. Because that's not what we want to do. But we want to make sure that people have the facts and people can make their own determinations as to what happened.
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Megyn Kelly
And that would prove to be devastating to Blake Lively. It's the reason she settled, because they never relented. They kept confronting her via the media with the truth about her behavior toward Justin Baldoni and toward the press and toward others and all the things she did that made everyone loathe her. And it was devastating for her. Her reputation is in tatters. It is in ruins thanks to her. They put out a joint statement. And I want you. I want to read you the joint statement and take you through it from a legal perspective. Okay. Is. It's remarkable. It is a huge accomplishment for the Baldoni defense team. It reads as follows. A joint statement. Okay. So they're both, all of them signing on to this. The end product. The movie. It ends with us. Is a source of pride to all of us who work to bring it to life. Raising awareness and making a meaningful impact in the lives of domestic violence survivors and all survivors is a goal that we stand behind. Okay, Generic. Go see our movie. It was a good one. Then we get to the meat of it. We. We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard. Now, I'm going to guarantee I haven't talked to Brian. I guarantee you that that line there was the subject of about 200 revisions. Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Right. You. I can feel it getting watered down and watered down and watered down from, like, Blake Lively had righteous claims that she was correct to bring. Unfortunately, they were thrown out by a judge and whatever. This is the best she could do. Whatever. I'm sure it sounded much more favorable to Blake Lively when it was first drafted. Instead, we wind up with the process of making the movie presented challenges. And we recognize concerns raised by Lively deserve to be heard. So good. I mean, honestly, every defense lawyer out there is like, that's excellent. It's the best you could ever hope for. We remain firmly committed to workplaces free of improprieties and unproductive environments. There is nothing, nothing in here about sexual harassment. Nothing. Or retaliation. Just workplaces free of improprieties and unproductive environments. You could be talking about people who leave early and who are lazy on the set. That does not in any way suggest any sexual harassment. Nevermind. Retaliation. It is as anodyne a statement as you could get. It is our sincere hope that this brings closure and allows all involved to move forward constructively and in peace. That's Team Blake saying, please don't hurt us anymore, Brian Friedman. But you're the one who started this. Including a respectful environment online. That's a message for all of us to stop saying nasty things about Blake Lively. Well, I hate to break it to you, Team Blake, but I didn't sign a settlement agreement. And I'm totally free and emboldened to say whatever I want about you, including that you're a liar. You're a liar, and your legal team are a bunch of liars. Remember when you subpoenaed me in this case, trying to get my documents on you? This happened. They subpoenaed me, my company, and tried to come out after my documents that my team and I put together before we covered her on this show, before we interviewed Brian Friedman on the show. They actually had the gall to ask for my attorney client communications between me and my lawyer, thinking we had nothing better to discuss than Blake Lively. And I told her to pound sand. We. I hired a lawyer, outside lawyer, because Brian was handling this case. I didn't want him to have to, you know, be conflicted. And the lawyer went in, objected, and they lost. Okay? They, they were forced to stand down. And then she had the nerve when she was forced to stand down, to come out and say, we never subpoenaed Megan Kelly, which was a lie. I can show you the document with my name on it asking for my documents. I had to hire a lawyer and go into court and defend it. And I won. So I know they're liars. And I know they're liars from the complaint that they filed against Justin, which Brian bit by bit undermined with proof, with proof that she had taken things out of context, that she was determined to paint herself as a victim. I'm telling you, this woman, Blake Lively, I think she has Munchausens. If one word of what she alleged was sincere in her head. She has Munchausens. Or like she, she tries to make something bad happen to her. She, like, insists that she has to be a victim because, like, something terrible's happened to her. It's like some form of Munchausens. And either that or she's just a bald faced liar who made the whole thing up because she understood that she was suffering PR wise thanks to her own bad deeds and she wanted somebody to blame it on. She wanted someone to Blame it on the the Daily Mail today. I want to give credit where it's due. I think it's the Daily Mail, not the Post, but is reporting not $1 exchanged hands, not $1. TMZ also has it. Not $1. He didn't pay her one red cent. Can you believe that? That is a total and complete victory for him with this anodyne statement. And she dismisses all charges. It is a complete and total win for Justin Baldoni and it is a complete and total surrender by Blake Lively. And admission that she had no claims she won't be forced to do it publicly. She was allowed to save face by just saying, oh, we settled it, and give this statement. You know, we both agree on appropriate workplaces. Now she's going to run around and she's going to try to paint herself as, like, I can't talk about it because of an NDA, but, like, you know, wink, wink. We, we care about workplaces and I care about women. I care. I deeply care. And the press is going to let her get away with that, but the public is not. And this is where I want to offer a free PR lesson to Blake Lively, to Meghan Markle, another person who wasn't at the Met gala, even though her good friends the Kardashians were all there and very tight with the co chair, Lauren Sanchez Bezos, couldn't quite manage to get an invite for that loser. But both women need the same lesson, and I am just the gal to provide it. When you come under withering attack by the media, which happens to virtually every public figure at one point or another in his or her life, there is only one play. Be quiet and take it. I know you can go out there and you can complain, you can fight back. It's fine to correct the record. If somebody's saying, you know what you stole from a bank, it's fine for you to say that is not true. Ideally, without too much emotion, you can correct the record. But don't make a huge deal out of it. Don't call additional attention to the terrible things being said about you. Right? Like, whatever. At least let's time pass, you know, ideally months before you get out there and subtly say something about it, because it only calls more attention to the negative thing that's being said about you. And on top of that, Americans don't want to hear it. They don't want to hear it. They don't care about your PR problems. Blake Lively, you're married to Ryan Reynolds. He's reportedly worth $400 million. You yourself reportedly earned $21 million in the eight years preceding the filing of this lawsuit to those involved in the case. So you're earning what? 4 million and change per film? That's not bad for you. You're really not that talented. You're really just the Gossip Girl actress. Your life is grand. You have four wonderful children. You live at some huge mansion, I think up in Bedford, New York or someplace in the sort of hills of Connecticut. You're doing great. Shut up. You got your liquor company, you got your hair company, like shut the fuck up about your bad pr, which amounted to like a month's worth of negative articles which he didn't even generate. But honestly, even if he had. Shut up. We don't care. America has its own problems and they look like real problems, not your stupid problems. I've. I had bad things said about me in the Daily Mail or the New York Post. I'll cry me a river. You ruined your own reputation by telegraphing to the world that you could not take a rhetorical punch in the face, that you were so thin skinned you had to run and file a lawsuit. And on top of that, try to ruin a man with less power than you. It's one thing for a bully to take on someone of equal or greater power. It's almost impossible actually to be dubbed a bully in those circumstances. If you have equal or the other person has greater power than you, you're not bullying them at all. He. That wasn't the case here. She and her dragons, Taylor Swift and Ryan Reynolds, her best friend and her husband and Blake herself, had way more power than Justin Baldoni. And she was determined to ruin his life, to dub him as a MeTooer, as a sexual predator, to misrepresent his emails, his behavior on set, that of his partners from Wayfarer. And she did not care at all. She just wanted to cloak herself and in fake MeToo glory. She was a MeToo stolen valor thief. And had she just taken it? Had she let us beat her up for her, Admittedly, I mean, not admitted by her, but the rest of us admit terrible behavior in her interview with that Nordic journalist. I like your baby too. Why do they always ask us about her fashion? Would they ask that of the man? Parker? Posy, you're awful too. Had she just taken it because she would have realized, shit, I was bad there. I should have just. I mishandled that. And ideally issued an apology to that young woman had she come out and said, you know what? Some of my tone around the promo of a domestic violence movie. It may have been off. Let me explain it to you in an interview. We actually thought maybe that was the better way to promote it. But now having seen it, I understand how it was perceived as insensitive. Whatever you could, you could have handled it like that. But instead you filed a lawsuit and you tried to viciously ruin a man's life. And for that we do not forgive you. You haven't sought forgiveness. You don't seem sorrowful or regretful at all. In fact, I believe you'd do it again. So now you'll have to live with the consequences of calling attention to your own bad behavior. The reasons people disliked you, which got amplified. The streisand effect times 2000. Everyone's seen these terrible clips of you. Whereas they wouldn't have before. It would have been a small one month deal at most. You're the one who made it. An unforgettable two year saga for all of us. And you've ruined your career. No. No director wants to work with you. They know you're going to do this to them. They. They know you're a nightmare. That you're a terrorist. That's what the Sony executive who's responsible for putting this movie out called you. A terrorist. If the Sony guy is going to say that, if you're going to do this to Justin Baldoni, they've seen your out of context allegations and so on. No one is going to want to work with you. Your box office poison. You did the same thing to yourself that Meghan Markle did to herself. Justin Baldoni will emerge from this smelling like a rose. He looks victimized by you and like someone who decided not to take it lying down. Who hired himself a very good lawyer who was able to out you for exactly what you are so you will not move on and sail off into the sunset with great movie roles or in high demand in Hollywood. You've reached the apex of your career and you look, your life is still great. You have your great husband, you have your kids. 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Dasha Nekrasova
Thank you, thank you.
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Megyn Kelly
So good to have you both.
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Anna Kachian
Great to be here.
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Megyn Kelly
We're just joking in the break that there's a lot's happened since the last time you were here. Yeah. In all of our lives. Okay, before we start on the JP Morgan thing, because I've got a lot of thoughts and I know you do too, let me ask you about our first two stories today. Did you watch any of the Met Gala last night? Thoughts on the fashions and those in attendance.
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Dasha Nekrasova
My favorite, my favorite looks were Hunter Schaefer, Zoe Kravitz, and almost Kendall Jenner. I loved the dress, but her and Kylie both did the skims nipple bra thing.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
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Anna Kachian
And we're up to something. Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah. It's like promo.
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Anna Kachian
We're like cooking up a promo campaign.
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Megyn Kelly
You're probably right.
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Dasha Nekrasova
They're gonna make a million.
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Anna Kachian
Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah. They do everything they touches, they touch turns to millions.
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Anna Kachian
Yeah. Though I guess Kylie was wearing Schiaparelli. Am I saying that correctly down below? Kendall was wearing Gap Studio by Zach Posen.
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Megyn Kelly
Oh, really?
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Anna Kachian
It was a new shirt. Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
I thought the pencil with the, with the wings, I thought that was actually very cool.
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Dasha Nekrasova
The dress was fantastic.
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Megyn Kelly
I like that. I. Zoe Kravitz, though, I thought she was, she looked Boring. It was like a black lace dress that I would wear on Halloween.
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Dasha Nekrasova
She's so lovely. I don't know.
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Megyn Kelly
All right, so you're just rooting for her.
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Anna Kachian
And it was like, Goth princess. They took the neckline of the original design down.
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Megyn Kelly
What did you make of Lena Dunham Girls?
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Anna Kachian
I love it.
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Megyn Kelly
What did you love about it?
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Anna Kachian
Just. She's being herself, like, unapologetically herself. She came in. It's like an.
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Megyn Kelly
It should be apologetic.
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Anna Kachian
Well, I love that she came up in there with. With, like, her ingrown hair scars and her burn marks on her.
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Megyn Kelly
Is that what that is? The ingrown hairs?
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Anna Kachian
She's got. There's.
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Dasha Nekrasova
She's. There's blemishes, but she's owning it.
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Megyn Kelly
But the legs. You don't get blemishes on your legs. What? There's. There's marks all over her legs that are very weird. I don't know what happened.
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Anna Kachian
She's a troubled person.
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Megyn Kelly
Oh, so they could be burns?
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Dasha Nekrasova
No, there's probably. Who knows?
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Megyn Kelly
I don't know either. But, I mean. No. Maybe she's just a klutz. And they are tiny bruises, but there were a lot of them, and I found the whole thing very disturbing. I just. I don't think anybody wants to see that.
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Anna Kachian
I think it's so cool to accessorize with your skin problems, because we spend all this time, like, minimizing.
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Megyn Kelly
Yes. You want to show them off?
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Anna Kachian
Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
Hell, no. I'm against it.
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Anna Kachian
You know, she and Nicole Kidman were doing kind of a similar look. Like, sequins and feathers, bright red. And I think even though Nicole Kidman has, like, 20 years on her and is, like, a great Hollywood beauty, Lena kind of mogged because she looked so out there.
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Megyn Kelly
So you're saying Lena Dunham wore it better?
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Anna Kachian
Yes.
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Megyn Kelly
Oh, wow.
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Anna Kachian
People are gonna hate that.
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Megyn Kelly
And then Nicole Kim was kind of like, okay, it's fine. She looked like she was in an episode of White Christmas.
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Anna Kachian
Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
You know, like, at the end, like. Okay. But what was special about it? You know, like, what was.
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Dasha Nekrasova
There was a lot of looks like that and, like, the theme, I think, ever since they tried to do camp and, like, no one could understand it, they've made it more and more this year. It was. Fashion is art.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah. Whatever that means.
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Dasha Nekrasova
The dressed body, they kept saying, which is, like, basically the bare minimum.
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Anna Kachian
Did they actually say.
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Dasha Nekrasova
They kept saying it's about the dress body. And I was like, well, they all certainly dressed their body.
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Megyn Kelly
Isn't that what all fashion is? The dressed Body. And then you almost. You always have Irina, shake, shank, whatever. Yeah, she's always naked.
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Anna Kachian
Yeah, I guess this time she was doing like the Greco Roman sculptural torso thing. It didn't really hit for me, but, you know, whatever pointed out.
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Megyn Kelly
Whatever the occasion.
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Anna Kachian
Yeah, yeah, well, you can't.
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Megyn Kelly
I know.
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Anna Kachian
I mean, but celebs are so dumb that they have to make the instructions really foolproof and then they still manage to botch it every single time. So this theme was so vague and open ended. Like, I really loved Hunter Schaefer's look because it was inspired by Gustav Klimt, like Vienna secession. But you can't have a theme like that.
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Megyn Kelly
I don't know what. I don't even know who Hunter Schaefer is.
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Anna Kachian
She's a famous transgender.
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Dasha Nekrasova
Oh, on Euphoria.
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Megyn Kelly
Was that the. Oh, that was the one. No. Yeah, you probably can't talk, that's why.
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Dasha Nekrasova
Yeah, yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
No, I think she shouldn't have looked. He. He should not be dressed like a nine year old girl.
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Anna Kachian
I mean, that's the fantasy.
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Megyn Kelly
Ew, so gross. No, I object on behalf of nine year old girls everywhere. No, it's a.
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Dasha Nekrasova
No, it's a reference.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah, yeah, but it's an offensive one. Look, like, I don't. I'm done with like the woke trans. The one wheelchair bound, transgender, cerebral palsy. What are. There were like four other boxes that person signed with what elite models?
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Anna Kachian
Like, well, my question is, if you're gay, black, trans, have cerebral palsy. Have cerebral palsy, do all those things cancel each other out so that you become like the most desirable woman on the planet?
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Dasha Nekrasova
Yes, the most privileged.
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Megyn Kelly
There she is. Right. The most. Exactly right. It's like that episode of Modern Families when they're. The two gay guys are trying to get their daughter, their adopted Asian girl daughter into school and they're like, we got this maid, you know, we're gay, we have an Asian daughter, she's adopted, and then in comes lesbians, one of whom is black. They're like, oh, damn. Yeah, she, she's. She out. Privileges everybody.
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Anna Kachian
They had the midget, but I guess she works for Vogue. He's the midge. The dwarf. Dwarf. Dwarf.
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Megyn Kelly
Sorry, yeah, the dwarf somebody. Can we put the dwarf somebody posted the following. Who. Who ate Melissa McCarthy?
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Dasha Nekrasova
Or someone put Melissa McCarthy in the dryer. She shrunk. McCarthy.
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Megyn Kelly
Like, what's happening here? Why does she look so much like Melissa McCarthy, only in miniature? It's very strange. I'm not sure what's happening with the. With the waving.
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Dasha Nekrasova
Well, what's really lacking, ever since Joan Rivers died. Rest in peace, is like, no one.
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Megyn Kelly
Now.
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Dasha Nekrasova
The Met Gala is just. They have the most banal commentary. No one takes them to dust for anything. Who was it who wore, like, the dollar bill?
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Megyn Kelly
Sarah Paulson.
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Dasha Nekrasova
Sarah Paulson with the dollar bill over her eyes. And it's like, is that celebs are just getting away with too much?
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah. It's a comment on the elite, on the 1%.
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Anna Kachian
Oh.
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Megyn Kelly
How rich they are. They're blinded by her tens of millions. Yeah. So she. But she can. She can comment on it. Yeah, exactly. You're at an event being hosted by Lauren Sanchez, but you're there under protest.
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Anna Kachian
Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
Is that what you're trying to tell us?
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Anna Kachian
But there was less of that.
- [60:52]
Dasha Nekrasova
There was no, like, AOC Tax the rich dress. There was. It felt more. I feel like we're healing a little bit.
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Megyn Kelly
Okay. If only we could return actual celebrities to the Met Gala, then. Then we'd be all healed.
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Anna Kachian
I was a little disappointed that Zohran Mamdani and Ramaduaji declined the invitation because he could have played up to you. Saw a lot of, like, South Indian heritage stuff going on.
- [61:14]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
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Anna Kachian
And she has such an art historical face. She's like, oh, yeah, it would have
- [61:18]
Dasha Nekrasova
been a great thing for her.
- [61:19]
Megyn Kelly
She looks disturbingly. Disturbingly like the man accusing the woman at J.P. morgan. They look like the same person. I'm sorry. I know that there are memes online in which they've used AI to actually superimpose his face over hers, but the actual faces look disturbingly similar. But I credit him for not going because I. I think it's bullshit for AOC or Sarah Paulson to show up. Be like, I'm here, but it's under protest. Good for him for being like, no, I don't believe in that. Goodbye.
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Dasha Nekrasova
And his messaging. Yeah, he's staying on task.
- [61:51]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
- [61:52]
Dasha Nekrasova
He's not gonna get distracted with the galas.
- [61:55]
Megyn Kelly
I appreciate that. I mean, I don't really want him to stay on task because he's ruining New York, but I appreciate. Appreciate the moral consistency of it.
- [62:02]
Dasha Nekrasova
Exactly. Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
Okay, so now what do we make of the Baldoni Lively settlement? The. The word is that she just, like this week, hired this very heavy hitting litigation firm to try to telegraph. Telegraph to him. Oh, I'm going to trial. Like, I'll do it. And not surprisingly, his lawyer, Brian Friedman and team were not intimidated by that at all. Like, he's an actual litigator who tries cases all the time. He's like, great, whoever you want. But the truth is, she could not let this case go to trial. She could not let him cross examine her. She could not take the stand. She was about to actually become Amber Heard, and she had no choice but to act like she wanted to try the case all the way up until the end. And then she basically, her case got gutted by the judge three weeks ago when he threw out all the sexual harassment claims and left her only with one tiny slice of it. And by the way, Baldoni was released from the case when the judge issued that. So the only defendants left were Wayfarer, his company, and the PR firm that they alleged was part of a retaliation campaign against her by. By allegedly pushing for bad press. And his defense was going to be. They never actually did plant the bad press. He hired them to get a game plan ready, and they were absolutely prepared to do it, but they didn't have
- [63:18]
Anna Kachian
to because she did it to herself.
- [63:20]
Megyn Kelly
Well, right. And that. I believe that now more than ever, because she folded.
- [63:24]
Dasha Nekrasova
Well, she must have.
- [63:25]
Anna Kachian
She.
- [63:26]
Dasha Nekrasova
She was at the Met gala.
- [63:27]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
- [63:28]
Dasha Nekrasova
Hated her. So she must have anticipated being available.
- [63:31]
Megyn Kelly
Yes. She looked like an orange sherbet. Like a. Like a big sherbet, you know, they used to get. When you were a kid with the three different flavors in there.
- [63:39]
Anna Kachian
Yeah. It was very Wuthering Heights, a movie I also hated.
- [63:44]
Dasha Nekrasova
It's lazy to just do the long train.
- [63:46]
Megyn Kelly
Right.
- [63:46]
Dasha Nekrasova
It's been done.
- [63:47]
Megyn Kelly
She. She snapped at the little male male valets who are supposed to splay it out. The Daily Mail has this. Look, there's a moment here, look, look, here she goes. She's like, no. Oh, put it back down.
- [64:01]
Dasha Nekrasova
She just can't. Yeah.
- [64:03]
Megyn Kelly
Get out of her own way.
- [64:04]
Dasha Nekrasova
She needs the PR firm.
- [64:06]
Anna Kachian
See, this is why I can never be a celeb. Not because I have a poor work ethic and suck at promoting myself. It's because I could never be pictured on camera. Snap. Like, don't these people think of how it's going to look? Because they're being photographed and filmed all the time.
- [64:21]
Megyn Kelly
Yes. Especially when your problem is people think you're a bully.
- [64:24]
Anna Kachian
Yeah.
- [64:24]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah. And a bully of, like, lesser empowered men. Right. So what does she do? That's not the way it's supposed to be. I don't know what she said, but that's. That's my own dialogue superimposed over her. I don't. I think she meant to appear, like, here's me in all my glory. I'm back. I've put this terrible thing behind me, and it's just not going to be that easy. I mean, I just don't think the American public is that forgiving. I think they're very angry. Angry at her.
- [64:50]
Anna Kachian
I don't even know what this case is about, really.
- [64:52]
Dasha Nekrasova
Yeah.
- [64:53]
Megyn Kelly
What about you? You're in the biz.
- [64:54]
Anna Kachian
Yeah.
- [64:55]
Dasha Nekrasova
Not anymore.
- [64:57]
Megyn Kelly
You got pushed out.
- [64:58]
Dasha Nekrasova
But I think I saw her giving, like, an interview on the Vogue live stream where she claimed she was shy.
- [65:06]
Megyn Kelly
Oh, God.
- [65:07]
Dasha Nekrasova
Which seems. I feel like, yeah, people can sense that she's disingenuous, but I think she'll continue to have a career because she's people. Ultimately, even though we have mixed feelings about divas, they end up prospering.
- [65:21]
Megyn Kelly
Diva is one thing. Mariah Carey is a diva. I think JLo is a diva.
- [65:27]
Dasha Nekrasova
You don't have to be talented to be a diva sometimes, though.
- [65:30]
Megyn Kelly
But they're bullies. That's different. Bully. Mariah's not a bully. J. Lo's not reportedly that much of a bully, is she?
- [65:37]
Dasha Nekrasova
I feel like Mariah Carey might.
- [65:39]
Megyn Kelly
Is she.
- [65:39]
Dasha Nekrasova
I don't know. I'm not gonna slander. I don't have that.
- [65:44]
Megyn Kelly
Well, anyway. But what Blake Lively is known for now is being a bully, which is people don't, like. They really don't like that. It's not relatable. Like, every character she plays, you're gonna be like, who did she torture on that set? You know, somebody with lesser power. So I don't like her chances.
- [66:01]
Dasha Nekrasova
The optics aren't great.
- [66:02]
Anna Kachian
Yeah, they're not. But I feel like she's in so deep, she has no other choice than to dig her heels in and, like, own her reputation.
- [66:11]
Megyn Kelly
Oh, interesting. I don't think she's aware of what the reputation is. I think she's going to go out there and continue playing the fake me too card. Last year, at the time 100, she got up there and gave his big speech about how her mother was allegedly a sexual assault victim.
- [66:26]
Anna Kachian
Wow.
- [66:26]
Megyn Kelly
And it was like, okay, this feels inappropriate because it's your mom's story, but okay. And it was clearly an attempt to, like, glom on, you know, like, that's. That's basically the same thing as it happening to me. See, I get it.
- [66:39]
Dasha Nekrasova
Victimized by association.
- [66:41]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah. So she, like, that's. That's a year after she'd filed the lawsuit. Well, not a year, but it was months after, and she'd been taking a beating already in the press, and she still hadn't learned. This isn't going well. So I just don't Think she just. I don't think she's that bright.
- [66:54]
Dasha Nekrasova
If I was her, I would say because the Baldoni movie was about domestic abuse, it ends with us. I would say that I was so deep in character that I got confused, that I was so inhabited the role.
- [67:05]
Megyn Kelly
Oh, I like that.
- [67:06]
Dasha Nekrasova
That I thought he was abusing me because I just.
- [67:09]
Megyn Kelly
I can go to that place with her. I mean, I just. I would like to watch her try to spin it at a minimum.
- [67:14]
Dasha Nekrasova
That's what I would. That's what I would try to do.
- [67:16]
Megyn Kelly
All right. By the way, why is there no fallout for Parker Posey, who was equally bitchy in that one clip with the. With a Nordic journalist? Do you ever, you know Parker Posey? Yes. Wait, we have it. Look, I'm going to show you.
- [67:28]
Dasha Nekrasova
Actresses have bad days.
- [67:29]
Megyn Kelly
LA.
- [67:30]
Dasha Nekrasova
Yeah.
- [67:31]
Megyn Kelly
This is from 2016. It was when they were promoting the Woody Alley film Cafe Society. And this is one of the things that brought such bad vibes toward Blake. She was so nasty to this sweet. I think she's a Swedish journalist someplace up there. Sweden, Norway. And she is not pregnant. But Blake Lively, which you can't see in this clip, but was known. Blake live is eight months pregnant in this clip. So she did what most journalists will do when there's something very prominent about your guest and you make a passing reference to it just to get it out of the way for the audience and move on and watch what happened.
- [68:04]
Anna Kachian
First of all, congrats on your little bump.
- [68:07]
Megyn Kelly
Congrats on your little bump. What about my bump? You've got two nice ones and these.
- [68:15]
Anna Kachian
They are kind of bumps, aren't they?
- [68:18]
Megyn Kelly
No, not bumps. The lovely lady lumps. Check it out. Thank you. Thank you.
- [68:23]
Dasha Nekrasova
Do you like the movie?
- [68:24]
Megyn Kelly
Are you a Woody Allen fan?
- [68:25]
Anna Kachian
I love most of his movies and this one was so like visually amazing.
- [68:29]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, it's gorgeous. Did you guys love wearing those kind
- [68:33]
Anna Kachian
of clothes that you.
- [68:34]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, yeah. And you know, working in digital, no one wants to talk about the clothes, but I wonder if they would ask the men about the clothes. I would. I love Jesse's. That's what I'm saying. His. His wardrobe was beautiful. Corey's wardrobe, high waisted pants. He's so great. I would wish men more high waisted pants. I know the father with his. With his. His tank top. Oh, so good. Yeah. It's not just the women that, that have the clothes get the conversation.
- [69:03]
Dasha Nekrasova
But it's like, okay, Parker, innocent, she's being diplomatic and quirk. She's trying to kind of save face.
- [69:12]
Anna Kachian
What year is this?
- [69:13]
Megyn Kelly
It looks like it's from2016, but it didn't. What happened was kjirsty, however you pronounce it. She did her company, her. Whatever she works for in Norway, they did put it out at the time. And then when she saw it ends with us and some of, like, the back and forth around her, like, the buzz around Blake, she's like, I'm re releasing that clip. And she actually said at the time, I'm leaving this business. It's a disgusting business. I hate it. I hate the people in it. Like, I'm just sick of this bs. And she had had trouble getting pregnant, so she really didn't appreciate the I like your baby bump, you know, so
- [69:49]
Anna Kachian
she left the business because an actress is a huge bitch to her.
- [69:53]
Megyn Kelly
I think it was just, like, one of the many straws, you know, Like, I can't stand these people.
- [69:58]
Anna Kachian
Yeah.
- [69:58]
Megyn Kelly
I mean, you've had to deal with these people. Like, bothers you.
- [70:02]
Dasha Nekrasova
I'm not a great fan of journalists either, and they've been. They've treated me worse than actresses, to be honest.
- [70:08]
Megyn Kelly
Present company accepted.
- [70:09]
Dasha Nekrasova
Except for you.
- [70:10]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah. Ye. I don't know. I feel like the press is the worst, but Hollywood's not much better. And speaking of which, you. We were laughing that since I last saw you, you technically got canceled because you. You committed the same sin as Tucker Carlson. He's coming on tomorrow. I've got all the canceled people because of Nick Fuentes on the show this week because you had the temerity to interview him Thursday. Tucker's coming out. Yeah, so. And people were very, very angry because you're not allowed to like him because he's got this very racist strain when it comes to blacks and Jews and women and so on. Racist, bigoted, whatever you want to call it. But he's got this other strain that is interesting. And so. But you're not allowed to say that. You can't even acknowledge it, and you definitely can't interview it. Dasha, didn't anybody tell you that?
- [70:57]
Dasha Nekrasova
Well, I saw. Yeah, I saw Tucker say that he regrets it, and I actually also regret Tucker interviewing him because we had Fuentes on a month before, and it wasn't. No one cared. I wasn't in trouble at all. And then when Tucker had him on. I'm just kidding. But the cat. That's when the cascade of, like, denouncing
- [71:18]
Megyn Kelly
started and somebody went back and dug up your.
- [71:21]
Dasha Nekrasova
Well, one person was especially upset.
- [71:24]
Anna Kachian
That person was me.
- [71:27]
Dasha Nekrasova
No. In the Hollywood Reporter, there was that One guy who had been waging this crusade against me. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I get it. I get why he's like a. No, no person. Why, like, the liberal establishment wouldn't want you to talk to him.
- [71:43]
Anna Kachian
I don't. I think it's totally hypocritical. When I was reading the remarks that Tucker made in his New York Times interview where he talks about how he regretted having Fuentes on, and to me it was kind of like sour grapes, even though I agreed with, like, other parts of the interview, because he says that the reason he regrets it is because it was a distraction from these other, bigger issues. The problems that are facing us are primarily economic, not, like demographic in nature. And I think he regrets it because, you know, let's face it, Nick Fuentes is much more popular among younger people. He really owns Tucker. He'll own anybody. And he. It's his moment now. He's ascendant. But I don't find anything controversial about even his most controversial remarks because they're very clearly meant as a half joke, and it's irrelevant whether he believes them or not. And I think that the liberal media is totally, like, complicit in it because they are fascinated by him, much like they were fascinated by Donald Trump, and they want to keep him in the news because it feeds.
- [72:44]
Dasha Nekrasova
Clicks.
- [72:44]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, yeah. And they always describe him as far right, which I'm like, yeah.
- [72:48]
Anna Kachian
And you know, sure, that's right.
- [72:49]
Megyn Kelly
But I understand why they're doing it.
- [72:50]
Anna Kachian
Well, they conflate it.
- [72:51]
Dasha Nekrasova
They also. Yeah, but before we had him on our show, there were two articles in the New York Times about him. One was about, like, gripers in the mag movement, which isn't really like, the. The nuances of how he even feels about Trump are kind of irrelevant. They just really needed someone.
- [73:08]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, he's black pilled. He's not red and he's not blue.
- [73:13]
Anna Kachian
No, my. I mean, my issue with him and the reason that I was. Had concerns about having him on our show was that I felt that he was kind of met an impediment to the health and future of the MAGA movement and was brought in or brought himself in. I don't think he's even, like, controlled or owned by anyone. I think it is organic momentum, contrary to what his haters say. But, you know, he's a talented broadcaster and I liked him personally, but my concern was always that he was brought into, or he brought himself into, like, kind of subvert or take the piss out of that movement, which ended up Kind of doing it to themselves a little bit. Yeah, but it's like the same thing, you know, it's the same thing as with Trump, with, like, Trump derangement syndrome, where the media loves these guys, they feed off of them, and then of course, they act all like, shocked and outraged when someone else who's not on their team entertains them or interviews them. And, you know, the. At. By the end of that New York Times interview, the reporter was like, positively haranguing Tucker about Fuentes.
- [74:24]
Megyn Kelly
She was very. I don't want the Fuentes issue. Tucker definitely regrets it. I think it's because he just blew up so much in his face and he. It wasn't worth it for him. You know, I think he sort of thought he might be able to reach Fuentes in a way that might be helpful for the conservative movement. I think that's what Tucker thought. And that didn't happen. And the bomb blew up in his face and he was like.
- [74:47]
Dasha Nekrasova
And I caught a total stray.
- [74:49]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, yeah. He's like, this wasn't worth it. But I actually did. I had my team pull this together. This isn't because of you and defending Fuentes at all. I just wanted. I always say when we talk about him, because I do feel the need to accurately represent him. There's no question he's a very talented broadcaster and he's predicted a lot of things happening in the political sphere correctly. But there's also no question that he says things that are extremely racist, anti semitic and misogynistic regularly. So I actually, Just to show the audience, because I constantly make this reference and I don't actually put up. Here's just some of what I'm talking about here in 17.
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Commercial/Announcer
We're already a non white country. Get a grip. Get real, bro. This is already. We already live in Mogadishu. We already live in Islamabad. Have you been outside la, Chicago, New York? We live in hell. And that's just what. And you know it's what it is. Cause everybody tells me, you can't keep saying the N word on the show.
- [75:52]
Megyn Kelly
They're like, you can't.
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Commercial/Announcer
You gotta stop saying. You gotta stop saying N word, faggot. I'm like, but it's so funny saying, free Palestine, bro. Free America. America. One of these third world niggers gonna say that. Because when I see 50 million illegal spicks and apologies for the slur. See, I can say that one because I'm Mexican. It's not all. You don't just get called the Mexican white nationalist. You Also get to be racist against Mexicans. All in favor of a fat race mixer who's married to a jeet who named his son Vivek.
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Megyn Kelly
That's a reference to JD and Usha there.
- [76:28]
Dasha Nekrasova
Yeah, yeah, that is.
- [76:30]
Megyn Kelly
It is shocking. Shocking. Yeah, yeah. Are you being facetious? I genuinely do find shocking.
- [76:35]
Dasha Nekrasova
No, no, I get it's extreme, certainly, but it's, you know, in the, like, for people who watch his show, it's all in the context of like a stream.
- [76:43]
Megyn Kelly
And it's because I can't see a world in which any of that is not offensive.
- [76:47]
Dasha Nekrasova
Like, I, I mean, it's meant to be offensive.
- [76:49]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
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Anna Kachian
I mean, but I think he's also, like, revolting against the environment of, like, decorum and politess and like, these arbitrary, like, moral pities that were put in place by the Democrats, the liberals. And yet in his, like, enclosed space of his show with his audience, he's obviously totally offensive and no holds barred. But kind of the most offensive thing about him is that once his reputation started to get rehabilitated, he started walking back a lot of these remarks.
- [77:23]
Megyn Kelly
Did he?
- [77:23]
Anna Kachian
Yeah. Like now he's. He likes to go on a stream or wherever and claiming that he's not racist or he has no hate in his heart.
- [77:31]
Megyn Kelly
Did he use it, say I'm racist?
- [77:32]
Anna Kachian
Well, I mean, I would. I believe him because we've all said crazy, outrageous things on our shows for.
- [77:39]
Megyn Kelly
Yes, but there's what we say, which is politically incorrect and doesn't, like, necessarily kowtow to the woke left. And then there's the N word over and over, and that J word for Indians. And, you know, take your pick. Like, I, and I can even give you the point that, like, it's strange how much energy we've put behind, in particular the N word. We've empowered that word well beyond what we should because it's just, we've given it too much power to hurt black Americans. You know what I mean? It's like, I wish we could. We would disempower that word, but we haven't. And so to hear like that, like, a white man cannot be the one to. To disempower that word. That has to be done, if at all, by black Americans. And it's just like, why do it? Why be that provocative? Because he's also saying, you know, he's talking about blacks in the inner city in a way that groups them all. And, you know, he's got racial stereotypes, he's got female stereotypes. I mean, all the things that would lead any rational person to think you are racist, you're sexist, and you're definitely anti Semitic.
- [78:38]
Dasha Nekrasova
He's a racist guy. He's a. He's really. He's offensive.
- [78:41]
Anna Kachian
Yeah, I don't think.
- [78:42]
Dasha Nekrasova
Yeah, I wouldn't argue with that.
- [78:43]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah. Yeah. So that's so interesting to me. But you just don't care. But like, you, you still just want to talk to him.
- [78:50]
Dasha Nekrasova
I mean, at the time, he was doing all. He was going on a whole podcast circuit. He, you know.
- [78:54]
Anna Kachian
Yeah.
- [78:55]
Dasha Nekrasova
Seems I felt that the Overton window had shifted in terms of, like, he didn't say things like that on our show.
- [79:00]
Anna Kachian
Yeah.
- [79:01]
Dasha Nekrasova
You know, he didn't say things like that on Tucker. Yes, well, the things he says in the confines of his stream. It's his stream.
- [79:07]
Anna Kachian
I think this guy was probably, I don't endorse it. It was like so debanked and deplatformed that he felt comfortable doing that because he probably felt he didn't have anything. And, you know, now that he's in the crib.
- [79:19]
Megyn Kelly
Yes, Ben Shapiro did throttle him in the crib. That's. That's true. And he was canceled and put on the no Fly list for some reason when he was very, very young. I mean, that'll have a way of radicalizing people. But I had my team pull this yesterday. I don't know if you guys, I didn't even tell you I might use it today, but Mike Wallace of 60 Minutes interviewed the Grand wizard of the KKK in his hat, in his little outfit, with his pointy hat. So it actually is a time honored tradition amongst those who do interviews for a living to talk to the most controversial people in the world.
- [79:56]
Anna Kachian
Why wouldn't you?
- [79:57]
Megyn Kelly
The difference is Mike Wallace grilled him, you know, and like, sure held him.
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Dasha Nekrasova
I mean, we pushed back. I thought we talked about, you know, I said, I don't think the, the jewelry is as, like, cohesive. You know, obviously there's left wing Jews and right wing Jews and they have different interests. And, you know, we pushed back on him, but we don't take this, like, hysterical tone.
- [80:19]
Megyn Kelly
Look, there it is.
- [80:20]
Dasha Nekrasova
There it is. And the SPLC financed that.
- [80:23]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
- [80:25]
Dasha Nekrasova
The SPLC paid for that.
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Anna Kachian
And everybody from Noam Chomsky to Glenn Greenwald, all these like, you know, Glenn had them all, used to be the norm that liberal Jewish pundits and journalists defended freedom of speech and said, you know, you can talk to anyone. That was the. Always the idea. So now, now you have, like, I think, think, you know, Tucker Carled it carled. It called it childish and morally repulsive. And it is because you have this, like, double standard, this hypocritical thing in place where you can't talk to these people under any circumstances, but yet the liberal media wants to talk about. Constantly.
- [81:06]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, but wait.
- [81:07]
Dasha Nekrasova
But, like, I can talk to them, but only if. Yeah, you have this, like, scolding hysteria.
- [81:11]
Megyn Kelly
Yes, well, that's why I don't want to interview him, because I have no interest in doing the, you know, playing him that sound bite.
- [81:17]
Anna Kachian
Yeah.
- [81:18]
Megyn Kelly
And having him explain. Like, I just. I have no appetite for it whatsoever. And I don't think I could do an interview with him without raising all the stuff he says.
- [81:24]
Dasha Nekrasova
Well, did you see Piers Morgan?
- [81:26]
Megyn Kelly
Yes. I thought it was pointless. I love Piers, but I thought it was pointless.
- [81:29]
Dasha Nekrasova
It makes
- [81:32]
Megyn Kelly
sense. Well, it's like, then if all these things are deal breakers for you, as they are for me, then don't interview him. Then don't platform him. Don't promote him. You know, everybody feels differently about it. But I. I have to be honest. I care about, like, sexism if it's in the extreme. Like, I interview a lot of people who come on the show who are sexist. I have to be honest. I'm not gonna name them, but who I know have views of, you know, the modern American woman that I do not share at all. It doesn't bother. Like, I don't care, and I don't feel the need to bring it up every time they're on and make those. The stakes of the discussion. I don't know. I find them kind of interesting. But. But then when I think about, like, would a black journalist ever want Nick Fuentes gaining purchase in the mainstream? Or a black listener or viewer want that guy getting purchased in the mainstream when you, you know, he's. He's saying that word over and over, like, he doesn't demonize all blacks, from
- [82:24]
Dasha Nekrasova
what I understand on his show.
- [82:26]
Anna Kachian
Yeah, I think he's a friend of the blocks.
- [82:29]
Dasha Nekrasova
I don't think he has, like, deep hate in his heart.
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Megyn Kelly
How about the Jews, though?
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Anna Kachian
Well, you know, he says some of his best friends are Jewish. Many such cases, I don't know.
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Megyn Kelly
I don't. I have to be honest. I feel like on this guy, I've got one hand tied behind my back because I don't watch Nick Fuentes. I just know what others tell me. And Victor Davis Hansen was the one who first told me that he uses the N word all the time. So I had my team go back and check and sure enough, he does. Not just that, hey, he does and that. And I feel like he has upper limited himself by doing that, you know, definitely.
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Anna Kachian
You know, he like, karma comes for everyone. He's going to have to pay for that down the line. I'm sure he's aware.
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Dasha Nekrasova
He already has.
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Anna Kachian
You know, we caught a lot of flack for having him on because people felt that we had softballed him. And I don't think that we did that at all. We did in fact push back on him, but like, it would have been a totally different and less effective interview if we had come in hot. You know, scolding and accusing.
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Megyn Kelly
You would have got nothing from him. Yeah, yeah, he would have clammed right up. Well, that's actually Tucker's own defense for his interview of Ted Cruz. He says the reason he was very tough on Ted Cruz and not Nick Fuentes is because he was basically called an anti Semite by Ted Cruz seven minutes in and didn't really get things off on a good note. Yeah, well, I understand you guys do something different on your show. You're not confrontational. It does seem like you'll talk to anybody. And your whole thing to me now having known you guys for a while, seems to be non judgment. You're just kind of like, I mean, way past. I mean, yeah, you've got opinions. Yeah. But you're not. I wouldn't describe you as judgmental of really anybody.
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Anna Kachian
You're just kind of like, we're judgmentally non judgmental.
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Dasha Nekrasova
And I am a free speech absolutist.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
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Dasha Nekrasova
And I, you know, think Nick is interesting.
- [84:14]
Megyn Kelly
Yes. Right. That's your sin.
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Dasha Nekrasova
Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
That's why. That's what got you canceled in Hollywood. Right. So your agency dumped you. Does that mean no more work ever? Like,
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Dasha Nekrasova
I don't know. I think we'll see.
- [84:29]
Megyn Kelly
Maybe you'll. Maybe you'll self produce your next project. I think that's what Blake Lively is going to have to do.
- [84:35]
Dasha Nekrasova
Maybe Mel Gibson got in touch with me. I know he's had some trouble.
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Megyn Kelly
Yes.
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Anna Kachian
I mean, the whole institutional landscape is changing so rapidly. And yeah, there's a crisis of faith in every institution. Nobody really like, believes in Hollywood anymore, except for like, Hollywood's down pretty bad. It's true. You see that with the Met Gala too, by the way. When people, you know, are debating the theme and whether people executed it faithfully, it's like, well, the Met Gala hasn't been an A list event for at least a decade now. It's a D list event.
- [85:10]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah. I know it's embarrassing. There's a reason Meryl Streep is like, it's a no.
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Anna Kachian
Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
Again, fair. Okay, let's stand by. When we come back, we're going to do the JP Morgan update, which is crazy. Now this guy's back. He's filed, he's refiled his lawsuit and he submitted not one but two affidavits from third parties allegedly supporting his allegations against this gal. We'll take it up next. Don't go away. When it comes to supplements, there are two things that matter most. It has to work and it has to be something you can trust. Both are absolutely essential. And that is why I want to tell you about Relief Factor. Relief Factor has been endorsed by hosts for over a decade. That's more than 10 years of trusted voices helping people get out of pain naturally. For many people dealing with inflammation and mobility issues, especially after injuries, it's been life changing. Better movement, less stiffness, and a noticeable improvement in daily comfort. Now Relief Factor offers a quick start option and they actually lose money on this first offer. They do it so that you can try it for yourself and see how much it can improve your life. They know that you will wind up loving it. Relief Factor was created by a Vietnam combat veteran who became a doctor to help people heal drug free. What began as relief for his own patients became something he wanted to share with everyone. Try their three week quick start for just 19.95. Go to relieffactor.com or call 804 RELIEF to check it out. Let's see if you're next. When it comes to getting out of
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Anna Kachian
He.
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Megyn Kelly
That she sexually harassed him, threatened him, held his bonus over his head in order to make him give her oral sex and have sex with her in order to make him allow her to perform oral sex on him while he allegedly cried the whole time. Crying.
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Anna Kachian
He claims she roofied him.
- [88:47]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
- [88:47]
Anna Kachian
How do you have sex with a roof?
- [88:50]
Megyn Kelly
And Viagra also Viagra.
- [88:52]
Anna Kachian
Did they? I. I don't think that's how it works.
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Megyn Kelly
I agree, I agree. I think this is one of the problems of his claims. I think roofied means roofied.
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Anna Kachian
Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
Right. I don't think like, so what? Like he was passed out. When you're roofied, you can't lift your arms and legs, your appendages can't move.
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Anna Kachian
Right.
- [89:08]
Megyn Kelly
So just the, the Viagra goes just
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Dasha Nekrasova
right to that one appendage.
- [89:12]
Megyn Kelly
Just like the one is at attention.
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Dasha Nekrasova
Yeah.
- [89:14]
Megyn Kelly
And she's having fun with it while he's completely passed out. I don't think so.
- [89:17]
Anna Kachian
That's. That doesn't seem.
- [89:18]
Dasha Nekrasova
It's not adding up.
- [89:19]
Megyn Kelly
No, it's not.
- [89:20]
Anna Kachian
This is such a heartwarming feel good story though.
- [89:23]
Megyn Kelly
Why?
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Anna Kachian
Well, after all the friction and chaos of the last a few news cycles, it's nice to have something that's like purely a meme back in the news. And it's also funny because it's like actually like an epic media battle between our last two remaining papers of record, which are like the Daily Mail and the New York Post. The Daily Mail broke the story and then the New York Post debunked it.
- [89:48]
Megyn Kelly
Yes.
- [89:49]
Anna Kachian
And they're like really feuding over the scrap. And it's also obviously the newsroom drama. It's a reverse.
- [89:57]
Megyn Kelly
Me too. I know. It's got it all. All. Yeah. So two things now it has Come out that he pretended his dad was dead to get bereavement leave from JP Morgan, but the dad is alive and well and spoke to the New York Post this weekend.
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Dasha Nekrasova
Uhhuh.
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Megyn Kelly
Okay. So we must point out this man, in addition to the allegations of the complaint, which, make this clear, has got some serious credibility problems. There he is with his parents. His dad. This is, I guess, recent, but his dad is definitely alive, notwithstanding what he told J.P. morgan, which is that he's dead and he needed bereavement leave. And I guess his defense to this is, well, I needed to write my complaint. I needed time to work on my complaint, and I couldn't say that, so I said, my dad is dead, which. Why didn't you just do it in your spare time? That's what evenings and weekends are for.
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Dasha Nekrasova
I know, right? So he probably wasn't very good at his job.
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Anna Kachian
No. And this is like, so immigrant kid filling out college admissions essay. We were like, this is my sad immigrant story. And also, my mom has cancer. It's just like, Nick Fuente has totally vindicated about his. With his screeds on immigration because it's like different honor codes. Though, to their credit, when they interviewed the dad, he said, my son, he's a good boy. Great kid. They don't throw their own family members under the bus.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
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Dasha Nekrasova
Except to say they're dead.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah. It's fine. That's what I'm here for. Okay. But notwithstanding that very bad piece of PR for this plaintiff, it. It emerges as he refiles his complaint, which was withdrawn for, quote, corrections, that he's got alleged witnesses to Lorna's supposed bad behavior. And I'll go through a couple of them. They are anonymous, as far as we know, but they have details and quotes and described describe alleged encounters between this guy, Chiraya Rana and Lorna over the relevant time frame. Okay. In his new filing, one alleged witness, who appears to be a family friend of his, says he was staying at an apartment while visiting New York City and was woken up. This is the witness by Hajdini's drunken antics in the middle of the night. The other, anonymous affirmation, seemingly from the owner of the apartment where the family friend was staying. Right. So you've got one of his friends, and you've got somebody who owns the apartment in which. And she's happening. Yeah. Claims that he saw Hedge Genie kissing Rana's neck on the street sometime during summer of 2024. Now, that doesn't show harassment. If it's true, it shows. Maybe they had a relationship of some sort, and then says, in September 2024, she, the owner of the apartment, overheard them entering the apartment building, recalling Hajdini saying something that sounded like, I own you, brownie. This is a theme. All of the dialogue that he has in his complaint to me reads exactly like what a very nerdy Indian guy who never had any social life or girlfriend would imagine. It would sound like if somebody were harassing him or if people were leaving him voicemails like, okay, brown boy, it's
- [92:59]
Anna Kachian
a total fan male fantasy of female desire, but also, like a cultural.
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Dasha Nekrasova
With a racial psychosexual element.
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Megyn Kelly
Right? I mean, like, he.
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Anna Kachian
He wants it to be true that she's, like, threatening to ruin his life and, like, stomping on his balls and her stilettos or whatever. Like, even when the original story broke and I was reading some of the dialogue and, you know, she was, like, fondling her breasts and referring to them as canon.
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Megyn Kelly
Canon.
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Anna Kachian
No woman, no matter how, like, assertive or high T or high powered, like, working in a man's world, ever would use that word.
- [93:33]
Megyn Kelly
No. Ever.
- [93:34]
Anna Kachian
Ever.
- [93:34]
Megyn Kelly
That is fan fiction.
- [93:35]
Anna Kachian
It just doesn't make any sense because, like, women all want to feel small and submissive in the context of, like, a sexual scenario.
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Dasha Nekrasova
And even the small percentage of women, women out there who probably who might have, like, you know, dominant sexual proclivities, they still don't talk like that.
- [93:50]
Anna Kachian
No, no.
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Megyn Kelly
And. And I also take issue with the notion that she forced oral sex on him and he cried the whole time. Bullshit. That did not happen. I don't believe one word of that. But, okay, I digress. It's not for me because I'm not the jury. Okay, so back to the legal filing. The witness who said he was a family friend and came for a visit in this apartment with Shirayu Rana.
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Anna Kachian
This is dad, who knows.
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Megyn Kelly
Says it was September 13, 2024 or thereabouts. This guy attended a concert held at the Barclays center in Brooklyn with his brother. During the concert, my brother and I walked around to different parts of the venue. At one point, I spotted redacted sitting with a group. I think they mean the guy. I was apparently one or two seating sections away from him at the time. I observed a woman sitting next to him. Yeah, it's.
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Dasha Nekrasova
It's.
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Megyn Kelly
It's the two of them. The woman was very handsy gals with this woman putting her hands on his lap, back, legs, and. And lap again. In addition, she put her face very close to and to his, I guess, and appeared to be speaking into his ear. He sat facing forward. He did not look comfortable with the situation. Because I did not know the woman, I did not stop by to say hello. Then later. This is the same witness. September of 2024, same. Same month I was visiting New York. I stayed at his apartment. When visiting New York, I sometimes stay there. Okay, let's see. On that night I had plans to go out for drinks together. However, when it became late, I went to sleep on the couch in the living room. In the middle of the night I was awoken by the sound of a woman who was clearly intoxicated and speaking very loudly. I should have you read this. You're the actress. Shortly after redacted entered the apartment with the woman. He's talking about these two. He asked the woman to be. To please be quiet. But she loudly refused and said she would not be quiet. He later told me that the woman was Lorna Hajjdini, a woman with whom he worked. He and Mrs. Hajjdini. Ms. Hajjdini went into the bedroom and I attempted to go back to sleep. A short while later I was awoken by Ms. Hajjdini who was completely naked. Naked, I say. Ms. Hajjdini sat on the couch and lit a cigarette. It's possible.
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Anna Kachian
I can see it.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah. I mean, I can see it. Yeah. She then asked me to come into the bedroom with her. This is the third party witness and join them. I told her no. She again said, come join, come join. I again told her no. She then said, you know, I own what's his name, so you'd better come join. I continued to say no. Eventually, Ms. Hajjdini got up from the couch and went back into the bedroom and closed the door. Through the door, a short distance away, I could hear arguing and I could hear him loudly pleading with her to stop, to leave. And I heard him say, no, no, no, you have to leave. I'm not going to do this, Please stop. She's already naked and he's saying all this. Okay. It became quiet. Then sometimes later, sometime later, she came out of the bedroom, left the apartment. A few moments after that, he came out of the apartment in a state of shock and embarrassment. He then told me about how she constantly harassed him and had forced him into engage in sexual behavior with her on a number of occasions. He told me she had frequently said things to him like. I'm in charge of you and I will get what I need from you. And if you don't comply, there will be trouble at the OK Corral. He told me that this had been a big problem going on in his life for some time. In later conversations, he reiterated his concern that she was blackmailing him, forcing him to engage in sexual acts and also to provide help with her career, and that she constantly threatened to harm his career if he did not. Although he was not comfortable explaining the specifics of his experiences with her, I recall him telling me she had shown him naked pictures of herself. He also told me on the night in September when I was staying there, she had sexually assaulted him in the bedroom. That's basically it. I don't believe one word of it. Not one allegation.
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Anna Kachian
Would any man, let alone a man who's involved in a lawsuit, to not shoot down the opportunity to like, Eiffel Tower a naked woman with his body? I doubt it.
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Megyn Kelly
Wait, what's the Eiffel Tower?
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Anna Kachian
When she beckoned him into the bedroom.
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Dasha Nekrasova
It's. She's.
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Anna Kachian
It's a. Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
It's a threesome.
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Anna Kachian
Yeah.
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Dasha Nekrasova
Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
Why does an Eiffel Tower mean a threesome?
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Dasha Nekrasova
It's a style of.
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Anna Kachian
Sorry I said that. I'm so bad.
- [98:17]
Dasha Nekrasova
Because the way an Eiffel Tower is shaped and sort of.
- [98:22]
Megyn Kelly
Get it.
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Dasha Nekrasova
I could draw it for you. We don't need to.
- [98:24]
Megyn Kelly
We'll talk later.
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Anna Kachian
Yeah. It seems totally fake, but I. I just. I guess my question is like, what. What's the purpose? And did he really think he could get away with this?
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Dasha Nekrasova
I guess yes. Maybe he thought she would just. Maybe they did have some. Though I doubt that also, honestly, that they had some kind of relationship that she would be so ashamed that she would sort of want it settled and
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Megyn Kelly
she would just pay. And J.P. morgan would pay. Yeah. Who do you think the wit. The. That this person is? Because if this, you know, if he's making this up, he has now two witnesses who are willing to lie under oath.
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Anna Kachian
Or maybe he's making them up to. He's like their family, friends, cousins, Planish tribe.
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Megyn Kelly
His girlfriend in Canada.
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Dasha Nekrasova
Yeah.
- [99:10]
Anna Kachian
And I. I'm thinking that they probably did have an affair. You know, usual like, kind of like Eric Swalwell and his former staffer. Yeah. Because he had to have had some leverage. I doubt he made this up entirely out of whole cloth, but who knows?
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Dasha Nekrasova
My thinking is because all of the details are so kind of fantastic and humiliating. And with the wishful. The wishful fantasy of this dominant woman, it's possible that he could just be lying whole cloth because he has a humiliation fetish. Like even to admit any of this already would be so humiliating. But maybe that's the goal.
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Megyn Kelly
Here's what I want to know. If any of this is true, why didn't he provide the evidence of it to JP Morgan when they investigated it? Well, that's nothing. They say he provided nothing. She. She gave full cooperation that she gave her cell phone over, she gave all of her email records, she gave everything saying this is a lie and he gave nothing and was conveniently unavailable to deal with them.
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Anna Kachian
Okay, so it's fake.
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Megyn Kelly
And yeah, maybe he's just.
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Dasha Nekrasova
Maybe it's just the humiliation and he's just after.
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Megyn Kelly
After chasing that he also it has come out went on one of Those legal websites 10 months before this I saw this, you know like it wasn't like an AI, but it was one of those type of you know where. And he plugged in all these details that kind of dovetail this lawsuit. Except he described his harasser as a he and a man and said he was with Morgan Stanley, not JP Morgan Chase.
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Anna Kachian
Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
Now it's possible I could argue that one both ways. He had details that did that didn't jive. Like is your harasser this Lorna or is it he? Did this happen to you at JP Morgan Chase or at Morgan Stanley? He's worked at like multiple banks over the past 10 years, which is also sketchy. Yeah, in my opinion. And. But I could also argue it that maybe this helps his credibility because he went on a legal website and was looking for legal advice on what to do with alleged harassment he was undergoing.
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Anna Kachian
Or maybe he knew in advance that
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Megyn Kelly
he would be playing the long game.
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Anna Kachian
False suit.
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Dasha Nekrasova
Yeah, we did the legal website not advise him to record the evidence to
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Megyn Kelly
they connected him with a lawyer and I don't know whether that's interesting. So who knows, more will be revealed I guess all these months later. Okay then. Secondly, in the time we have left, there's a second witness. I've lived in a one bedroom apartment here. This guy sometimes visits my apartment with a family friend. At some point I had conversations with him. He mentioned an issue he was having with a woman at work who was harassing him and trying to blackmail him. He was not comfortable telling me details but kept saying this woman was making his life hell. I told him I wanted to see what this person looked like. And he showed me a profile picture. I believe it was Lorna. Around dusk, I was leaving my apartment one day. I saw her standing across the street at the intersection. Oh no, not her. Him. This guy. He appeared to be waiting for the light to change. To cross toward my apartment. He was with a woman. I recognized her to be Ms. Hajjdini. While they stood there, this woman was standing very close to him. She had her face in his neck and appeared to be kissing his neck. I also saw her grab his. She grabbed his rear end. His head was turned away from the woman as if to avoid the interaction. He did not appear interested in the woman and I did not see him reciprocate in any way. Again, this just sounds.
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Dasha Nekrasova
I mean, just look at him.
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Anna Kachian
Yeah. Why would a girl like that go for a guy like him?
- [102:28]
Megyn Kelly
And she's very good looking, she's pretty attractive and provided the cell phone. Like that's what a truth teller does. Maybe this guy will prove us all wrong. And he will.
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Dasha Nekrasova
That would be interesting.
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Megyn Kelly
Produce some.
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Anna Kachian
It would be hilarious.
- [102:41]
Megyn Kelly
Right? Some silver bulletproof.
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Anna Kachian
Yeah. She's so cute.
- [102:43]
Megyn Kelly
I know. She's adorable. And she's currently getting her reputation ruined by this guy because he tried to go anonymous. But he used her name at every turn.
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Dasha Nekrasova
Right.
- [102:52]
Anna Kachian
And where is his fish head wife
- [102:54]
Megyn Kelly
in all of this?
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Anna Kachian
There's so many apartments.
- [102:57]
Megyn Kelly
That's right. That's a good question. Where is the wife? That's right.
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Dasha Nekrasova
She's at the apartment soliciting his friends for threesomes. Like where is the wife?
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Megyn Kelly
That is a good question.
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Anna Kachian
Had to cheat on his wife. What's going on?
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Megyn Kelly
This is a very relevant question. Thank you for asking that because that has not been cleared up. Yeah, I think you may have just cracked the case. That may be the key detail that does it. Well, we'll continue to follow the saga because we want to know what happens. So far I think this is complete bullshit and I'm entirely on her side, open minded to being proven wrong. However. Okay, we are back tomorrow with how about this for a turn? Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch. We're looking forward to that and much, much more.
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Anna Kachian
We'll see you then.
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Megyn Kelly
Thanks for listening to the Megyn Kelly show. No bs, no agenda and no fear.
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Huh?
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Anna Kachian
Nibbles gone too soon.
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