The Megyn Kelly Show | Ep. 1202

Title: MTG Quits, Markle's False Narrative, and Woke Remnants
Guests: Maureen Callahan, Jillian Michaels, The Fifth Column (Michael Moynihan, Camille Foster, Matt Welch)
Date: November 26, 2025
Host: Megyn Kelly
Platform: SiriusXM

Overview

This live episode of The Megyn Kelly Show, held in California as part of her national tour, brings together a panel including The Fifth Column podcast hosts, Maureen Callahan, and Jillian Michaels. The episode explores major events and cultural shifts on the political right, the resignation of Marjorie Taylor Greene (MTG), the enduring influence of Donald Trump, “woke” culture’s grip on institutions, and cultural flashpoints ranging from Meghan Markle’s media narratives to transgender ideology. The conversation is sharp, combative, and often laced with humor and candor.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. California, Community, and the State of American Politics

[00:59-04:54]

• Megyn celebrates the "sea of reasonable right wingers" in California, sympathizing with the challenges conservative-leaning citizens face under liberal state governance.
• Expresses gratitude for the supportive live audience and law enforcement:
  Quote: "Do they let ugly people into the state of California?" – Megyn Kelly [03:31]
• Addresses recent political stunts by Democratic lawmakers, especially regarding military orders and Trump.
• Plays a forceful clip from Carl Higbee about the dangers of politicians meddling with military affairs and framing troops for political gain.
• Megyn criticizes Elissa Slotkin and others for undermining the chain of command: Quote: "Take responsibility and butt your fat ass out of the relationship between Donald Trump, the commander in chief, and our troops." – Megyn Kelly [07:09]

2. Q&A with Audience – California Politics, Foreign Influence, and Culture Wars

[08:58-16:41]

• Audience questions focus on reclaiming California, the influence of Islam in American politics, and the transparency of foreign lobbying (e.g., AIPAC).
• Megyn stresses the need for electable “normie” conservatives like Steve Hilton and greater voter mobilization [07:43].
• On radical Islam and foreign influence:
  "Their religion is more than a religion. It is a political doctrine...wholly inconsistent with the fundamental values of the West." – Megyn Kelly [10:44]
• Regarding AIPAC and foreign agent registration: "They should all be registered. Why should we have to wonder who they're loyal to?" – Megyn Kelly [11:00]
• On right-wing infighting: Megyn hopes the Israel issue will fade from the front pages and allow unity to return to the right [13:05].

3. Technology, Surveillance, and Media Skepticism

[14:15-17:47]

• Concerns raised about Peter Thiel-connected tech firms, AI, surveillance, and data privacy.
• Megyn advocates for secure alternatives like Erik Prince's "up phone," urging listeners not to trust government or Big Tech blindly.
• On covering conspiracies: “If I don’t put it on my show, I’m not buying it...my unofficial tagline is relentlessly factual.” – Megyn Kelly [16:41]

4. Audience Activism and School Board Victories

[17:47-19:47]

• Jillian Michaels shares her experience of being motivated by the show to run for, and narrowly win, a local school board seat.
• Ad-related concerns about pharma or special interests reaching right-leaning audiences are discussed, with Megyn reaffirming only her personally endorsed ads.

5. The Fifth Column Joins — The MTG Resignation and the Meaning of Trump

[23:48-32:34]

• The panel digs into Marjorie Taylor Greene’s resignation [27:41].
  • Megyn hypothesizes: “She lost the support of Trump...no future for her in the Republican Party without Big Daddy.” [27:08]
  • Michael Moynihan contextualizes her departure as emblematic of Trump’s dominance, likening Trump’s control over the GOP to the elimination of dissenters.
  • “It’s untenable for an elected Republican to be anti-Trump until the moment that it is.” – Michael Moynihan [29:04]
• Discussion of MTG’s media appearances and whether her ideological shift was a matter of survival or something deeper.
• Megyn relates to feeling ostracized by Trump, suggesting “nothing will make you fall in love with Trump like four years with Joe Biden” [31:45].

6. Trump’s Loyalty, Party Realignment, and Political Bromances

[32:34-39:13]

• The panel critiques Trump’s quick forgiveness of past critics and the performative nature of modern politics.
• Dialogue on Trump’s relationships with political outsiders, media personalities, and opponents (e.g., Zoran Mamdani), with both cynicism and amusement.
• "They don't mean it when they say the really terrible things about each other when they're campaigning… what you do is what matters." – Audience [39:13]

7. Dick Cheney’s Legacy, Media Realignment, and Strange New Respect

[41:14-45:49]

• The group discusses the oddity of MSNBC host Rachel Maddow attending Dick Cheney’s funeral after years of denouncing him.
• Moynihan observes how former establishment Republican figures (like Cheney, and soon possibly MTG) gain “strange new respect” by being anti-Trump, regardless of unchanged policies.

8. Trump’s Enduring Influence and the Future of the Party

[45:49-51:05]

• Trump’s unique post-presidency influence is contrasted with predecessors like Bush and Obama.
• “He has fundamentally remade the party… it’s been his party and it's going to be his party for better or for worse.” – Audience [47:40]
• Speculation on post-Trump leadership — names like J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz arise [50:03].

Cultural Critique and Woke Remnants

9. Gender, Trans Issues, and the "Woke" Debate

[54:17-77:27]

• Jillian Michaels discusses bullying, resilience, and her rightward shift, especially regarding race and gender.
• Both she and Megyn are adamant about biological realism in sports and cultural spaces, deriding "woke" policies as deranged and dangerous:
  “Anybody with a pair of eyes knows that men have better athleticism since the inception of humanity.” – Jillian Michaels [55:56]
• Fierce criticism of schools and institutions embracing trans orthodoxy, illustrated by stories of extreme teacher conduct (e.g., "Kayla Lemieux" incidents).
• Michaels recounts her children's experiences with school political bias and intolerance.
• Both agree the left’s demonization of young white men fuels fringe, racist movements:
  “The left has been demonizing young boys, in particular white boys, for 15 plus years now… They get blamed for literally everything.” – Megyn Kelly [61:01]

10. Joy Reid’s Surprising Alignment on Women’s Spaces

[69:56-73:32]

• The hosts express surprise and cautious optimism at MSNBC’s Joy Reid defending women’s single-sex spaces.
• “If you really want what’s best, then you celebrate this [Reid’s moment of clarity], you commend her, you give her her flowers.” – Jillian Michaels [71:55]

11. LGB Breaking from TQ, Dangerous Contagions, and Industry Capture

[75:08-77:27]

• Discussion of the Human Rights Campaign’s “HEI” scores and corporate pharma’s role in normalizing child gender medicalization.
• Agreement that the LGB part of the acronym needs to “break up with the TQ.”
• Both reflect personally on how “tomboys” and “gender nonconforming” youths are now targeted for medical transition instead of accepted.

Meghan Markle and Celebrity Culture Dissection

[87:38-109:13]

• Maureen Callahan delivers comedic, critical takes on Meghan Markle’s endless self-mythologizing, referencing a Harper's Bazaar profile.
• The panel laughs at Markle’s performative self-announcements and bizarre “jam boiling” metaphors for bravery [91:55].
• Critique of her self-importance and how even children’s milestones are staged for public consumption.
• Comparisons between Markle, Michelle Obama, and others who have used victimhood narratives to maintain public relevance.
• Jabs at pop culture figures:
  • Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo’s “queer-coded” press tour antics.
  • Amy Schumer and the collapse of fake body positivity in the face of Ozempic and social climbing.
  • Sarah Jessica Parker’s “inauthentic” subway photos and performative wokeness.
• On the Michelle Obama “grievance” tour:
  “It makes them seem special and serious… they’re not deep intellects, they’re not original thinkers, they’re not funny.” – Maureen Callahan [103:29]

On Free Speech, Humor & Outspokenness

[105:08-106:43]

• Maureen credits her candid, cutting voice to a turbulent home and admiration for comedians like George Carlin and Joan Rivers:
  “The people I've always admired were the ones who would say the thing everyone was thinking but was too afraid to say.” – Maureen Callahan [105:34]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Relentlessly factual.” – Megyn Kelly on her editorial approach [16:41]
• “The more you do it, the easier it gets… it is liberating to say what's real.” – Megyn Kelly [106:09]
• “If California is too radical for her [Jillian Michaels], they're doing something wrong, something really wrong.” – Megyn Kelly [54:17]
• [On Trump]: “His whole oxygen is attention and celebrity and he'll live post presidency the way he lived pre presidency.” – Megyn Kelly [46:56]
• “Whoever talks about their spouse that way? No one loves me more than Doug… Who’s ranking the love in their life?” – Megyn Kelly on Meghan Markle [93:08]

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [05:14] Carl Higbee's critique of politicians and military orders
• [07:09] Megyn's slam on Slotkin’s interference with Trump and the troops
• [13:05] Megyn on right-wing infighting and Israel discourse
• [27:41] Fifth Column joins; Marjorie Taylor Greene’s resignation analyzed
• [29:04] Moynihan on “Trump’s GOP until it isn’t”
• [39:13] On performative campaign incivility: "You just say stuff, then what you do is what matters"
• [55:56] Jillian Michaels: “Anybody with a pair of eyes knows...” - sports & gender realism
• [61:01] Megyn's tirade on left demonizing white boys and resulting backlash
• [69:56] Joy Reid defends women’s spaces
• [91:55] Meghan Markle’s “courage as jam boils” skewered
• [106:09] On speaking openly and the empowerment it brings

Tone & Atmosphere

• Direct, irreverent, often caustic: The hosts and guests reject political correctness, displaying camaraderie and humor while critiquing left-of-center figures and celebrating “team sanity.”
• Cultural crossfire: No one—left, right, celebrity, or otherwise—is exempt from the show’s withering take-downs.
• Audience engagement: Live questions keep the conversation pulsing with real-world right-leaning concerns.

Conclusion

Episode 1202 of The Megyn Kelly Show delivers a raucous, insightful, and often hilarious deconstruction of contemporary political and cultural controversies. The throughline is clear: challenge “woke” ideology, defend traditional values and free speech, and keep an unsparing eye on hypocrisy—wherever it lies.

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