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New Details About Missing Epstein Evidence, What to Expect in Midterm Elections: AM Update 4/6
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New testimony and documents reveal how key evidence tied to Jeffrey Epstein—including hard drives and explicit materials—was removed or left unsecured before investigators could obtain it, raising fresh questions about possible tip-offs and lost evidence - MK True Crime host Dave Aronberg weighs in. As the Iran war drags on and gas prices surge, Next Up host Mark Halperin breaks down what to expect in the Midterm elections related to Senate and House races. Riverbend Ranch: Visit https://riverbendranch.com/ | Use promo code MEGYN for $20 off your first order. Done with Debt: https://www.DoneWithDebt.com & tell them Megyn Kelly sent you!
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Megyn Kelly
Good morning everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Monday, April 6, 2026 and this is your AM update.
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Dave Aronberg
These would appear to be incriminating photos and videos. Some pretty ugly stuff that could have gotten Epstein a lot tougher sentence.
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Megyn Kelly
After years of mystery, new Epstein testimony and documents revealing what happened to key evidence that vanished from his Palm beach home before investigators arrived.
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Mark Halperin
Right now, the environment politically for Republicans is not good.
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Megyn Kelly
As the war in Iran stretches on and gas prices climb here at home, President Trump's approval rating takes a hit and new polling raises fresh questions about what it could mean for control of Congress. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. If you are looking to make smarter choices for your health this year, consider Riverbend Ranch. Their steaks are not only delicious, they also contain real high quality protein that helps fuel your body. Did you see the recent study that the folks in Sweden who ate meat every day staved off Alzheimer's way better than the folks who didn't? How about that? Eat your beef. It's a complete protein. It contains all nine essential amino acids that your body needs to function and it also keeps you fuller for longer, reducing cravings and snacking. But here's the key. Not all beef is created equal. The quality of the beef depends entirely on how it's raised and where it comes from. That's where Riverbend Ranch stands apart. For more than 35 years, Riverbend Ranch has been building an elite Black Angus herd, carefully selecting cattle for exceptional flavor and tenderness. All Riverbend Ranch cattle are born and raised right here in the usa. They never use growth hormones or antibiotics and the beef is processed at the ranch in their award winning USDA inspected facility. No shortcuts, no middlemen. Just incredible, healthy and flavorful beef shipped directly to your home. Order today@riverbenranch.com and use promo code Megan for 20 bucks off your first order. Newly released testimony from the House Oversight Committee investigation into the handling of The Jeffrey Epstein case, shedding light on several long standing mysteries involving property tied to Epstein that disappeared before investigators could secure it. The first dating back more than a decade ago to Epstein's Palm beach home. In 2005, as Epstein first came under scrutiny for his relationships with girls suspected to be underage. Local authorities searching his house for computers believed to contain evidence of his crimes, including home surveillance footage, but arriving to find key items had already been removed and now we know who took them. According to documents released by the DOJ in February, a 2005 email from a private investigator working for Epstein outlined items in his possession that had been removed from the Palm beach home prior to law enforcement's execution of the search warrant. The inventory, including computers, multiple phone directories, DVDs, VHS tapes and sexually explicit materials, including nude photographs of unidentified females and other pornographic content. Federal investigators too later attempted to recover the missing evidence, even sending a subpoena to that private investigator. But those efforts abandoned in 2008 when Epstein received a sweetheart plea deal. After the plea, a follow up email in 2009 showing the investigator asking Epstein's lawyers what to do with the items after the case had concluded. These emails raising new questions about whether Epstein may have had advance warning of the police search back in 2005. Late last month, the Oversight committee releasing testimony from Epstein's longtime attorney, Darren Indyke. As first reported by Business Insider. Lawmakers pressing Indyke on two key questions. Whether Epstein had been tipped off about the impending search in October 2005 and what Indike knew about the missing hard drives.
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Darren Indyke
And during our first hour, I asked you if you had, if you had any knowledge that anyone would have tipped off Mr. Epstein to the October 20 search warrant in Palm Beach. I believe that you testified.
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Dave Aronberg
No.
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Darren Indyke
Is that right? That's correct. Did you subsequently, subsequently learn that Mr. Epstein was tipped off to the search warrant? No. So during the course of some. After Epstein's conviction, after he. After he served jail time, through conversations with defense counsel, I became aware that there were computer hard drives in the possession of private investigators, not having done them, not having been participated in that in any way. I don't know when they were, when they removed, when they came in their possession, if they were. I just don't know how they came into possession, but I knew of the existence of hard drives.
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Megyn Kelly
So the lawyer claims he had no knowledge of Epstein being tipped off to the search. But somehow Epstein's private investigator wound up with the loot and now no one knows where it all is. Democrats on the Oversight committee now Want to talk to the private investigators involved. Requesting interviews to determine what was removed, where it was stored and whether it still exists. Good idea. Their deadline for responses set for April 9th. We spoke with MK True Crime contributor and former Florida state attorney for Palm Beach County, Dave Aronberg, who says this part of the story raises a major red flag.
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Dave Aronberg
Who tipped off Epstein that police were going to raid his place back in 2005 just hours before they arrived. He got a tip and three investigators paid by Epstein removed his computers and those hard drives went missing as well. Until apparently Now, Ehrenberg weighing in on
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Megyn Kelly
why those materials may have been removed but not destroyed.
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Dave Aronberg
Now, I suspect you had a lot of really disgusting images on these hard drives, which is why they were removed because they would have been incriminating against Epstein. They were just kept in a storage facility and I think Epstein wanted access to them. He apparently made copies of them. And so these would appear to be incriminating photos and videos, some pretty ugly stuff that could have gotten Epstein a lot tougher sentence. But because investigators did not recover them, then Epstein got off pretty easily.
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Megyn Kelly
As for whether these materials could still have legal consequences or are simply relevant to understanding the full scope of the Epstein case, we asked Ehrenberg.
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Dave Aronberg
We don't know if it would lead to criminal charges. Is there evidence of co conspirators? But even if there was, it's hard because this happened years ago and you need to be able to identify who the perpetrators are of the Epstein and you need to find the victims. So if there is incriminating video on it involving other men, then that would be evidence that could lead to criminal charges. Otherwise, it's important for us to be able to have full transparency to know what was going on and who were parts of it.
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Megyn Kelly
And yet another longtime Epstein mystery now has been solved. This one relates to his New York City mansion. Eleven years after Epstein's infamous plea deal, he was arrested again in July 2019, accused of sex trafficking multiple women. The day of the arrest, FBI agents breaking down the front door of Epstein's 5,000 square foot Manhattan townhouse. one point forcing open a safe with a chainsaw. Discovering cash, passports bearing Epstein's photo under different names, dozens of loose diamonds and multiple hard drives and CDs. Lacking a warrant to seize those items, agents leaving them behind unguarded and stacked in a pile on the floor with the intent to return. Five days later, the FBI came back with a warrant. Surprise, surprise, the contents of the safe were gone. The disappearance fueling years of speculation about how Potential evidence in a federal investigation could be removed without the authorities knowing. The presumption being all along that the FBI never recovered the loot. Now, congressional testimony from Epstein's longtime accountant, Richard Kahn, helping solve that piece of the story, telling the Oversight Committee what happened to the contents of the safe left by FBI agents on the floor of Epstein's home.
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Richard Kahn
I received a call from Merwin, who is the property manager, telling me that I packed up two bags of Epstein's belongings or things that were safe, and I left them with your doorman in New York City. I just wanted to let you know, I said to him, I'm not home. I'll be home in three or four days. And, you know, at that time, I'll bring it up to my apartment. When I arrived home three or four days later, I arrived in my apartment, I brought the two bags up. I never touched them, I never opened them. I believe a day or two later, I got a call from Merwin that the FBI was at the house again looking to collect things that they didn't take from their first visit. So I went home, I grabbed the two bags, I brought them to the residence, and I believe at that point in time, the FBI gave me a receipt for the two bags.
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Megyn Kelly
Investigators later indicating the contents appeared consistent with what had originally been found inside the safe. So the items inside the safe were only missing for a short time, it turns out, and then allegedly wound up back in the hands of the FBI all this time. Dave Aronberg tells us even though leaving the materials behind might seem questionable, the decision was likely driven by legal constraints.
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Dave Aronberg
That's actually pretty typical police work. If you don't have a warrant, you don't want to abuse your power because it can come back to bite you. So I don't take that as a real problem, especially because the FBI got the material anyways. I. There's no evidence that the material was tampered with. There were a lot of mistakes made in this case, and I think a lot of law enforcement decisions have come under scrutiny and we're second guessing them. But ultimately, when it comes to leaving the diamonds behind, that was not an oversight. That was a deliberate legal decision because they didn't have a warrant. And so as a result, that's. It's not that unusual to just leave it behind and not touch it and just come back for it once you get the warrant. I guess FBI at the time probably thought that the people who were in charge of the apartment, the lawyer, members of the estate, would watch over it. And if they did tamper with anything, they would be charged with a serious crime themselves.
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Megyn Kelly
Ehrenberg, originally a skeptic that the release of these files would amount to anything meaningful, now says the documents proved him wrong.
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Dave Aronberg
I will stand corrected that there have been lots of juicy things that came out. I think I underestimated the amount of material that had yet to be disclosed. And it is juicy and it is worth talking about. So I think that the Epstein Files Transparency act was a good thing. I'm glad it passed. But it's still full of loopholes that have allowed the administration to withhold millions of documents. And that's something that Congress may want to address. Congress wants to blame the Trump administration, but it was Congress in drafting the legislation that kept these loopholes in and didn't put an enforcement mechanism in the law. So there is no easy way to enforce a law. They would need a new law or at least they'll have to go to court now and stand in line to get a judge to do something about it.
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Megyn Kelly
Last Thursday, Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche telling Fox News no more files will be forthcoming. That, quote, all of the files we're going to get now have been released.
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Pam Bondi
The Epstein files has been a saga that's lasted for the entire for the past year. And what happened when the president signed the Transparency act is the Department of Justice has now released all the files with respect to the Epstein saga. And the Attorney General Bondi and I appeared in front of Congress voluntarily a couple weeks ago to answer any questions they had. We have made every single congressman, senator, available to come and see any document redacted, unredacted that they want. And so I think that to the extent that the Epstein files was a part of the past year of this Justice Department, it should not be a part of anything going forward.
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Megyn Kelly
Coming up, as the war in Iran stretches on and gas prices rise, President Trump's numbers are slipping. All of them. Next up, host Mark Halperin breaks down what it means for the battle for Congress. Let's talk about what's really happening right now. New data shows that financial stress is at an all time high. For some, many Americans are at a breaking point. Debt maxed out, no extra money, no room to breathe. And some people are running out of options. Listen, if debt has been weighing on you, you're not alone. And when it comes to debt, waiting usually makes it worse. Interest piles up. Minimum payments keep you stuck. But you do not need another loan or bankruptcy. You need a strategy, my friends. That is why I want to tell you about Done with debt. They build a smart personalized plan around you. They know what it takes to get you the biggest reductions possible, Whether you owe 10,000 bucks or much, much more. Done with debt has one clear goal. Lower what you owe so you keep more of your paycheck every month. Start with a free consultation. It takes just minutes. Share your situation and find out what's possible. You don't have to stay stuck. Go to donewithdebt.com that's donewithdebt.com the war in Iran now entering its sixth week with what the president says is two or three more weeks to go. In the last six weeks, support for this military action on the decline. A CNN poll last week showing just 33% of US adults approve of the war in Iran compared to 67% who do not. Those results repeated in multiple other polls at home. The economic impact of Operation Epic Fury also becoming a glaring issue for President Trump. The national average for gas topping $4 a gallon last week, the highest level since 2022, and up more than a dollar from a month ago. As costs rise, so does the political pressure on the economy. President Trump now deep underwater. According to the Real Clear Politics average of polls, just 37.2% approve of Mr. Trump's handling of the economy versus 60.1% who disapprove, a nearly 23 point spread. CNN's chief data analyst Harry Entin. Putting those numbers into historical perspective, how about the economy?
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Harry Entin
You know, you mentioned it was the worst in terms of the approval rating for Donald Trump in any poll we've conducted. How about highest disapprovals on the economy about this point in term two? Look at this. These are the worst in our poll, 69% disapprove of Donald Trump on the economy. For George W. Bush, it was 57%. In terms of the average Barack Obama, 56%. Donald Trump is crushing him on a metric you don't want to be crushing anybody on, which is disapproval ratings.
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Megyn Kelly
The drop in approval coming as candidates ramp up for high stakes midterms. Republicans trying to hold on to narrow majorities. Democrats looking to flip control with the fate of President Trump's agenda hanging in the balance. We spoke to MK Media star and next up host Mark Halperin who tells us the numbers point to a tough road for Republicans but not a guaranteed win for the Democrats.
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Mark Halperin
Right now, the environment politically for Republicans is not good. That's expected when you control the White House. But but Democrats aren't particularly popular either. So this is going to be an unusual midterm that should benefit the Democrats. They should do well, but it's not
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Megyn Kelly
a sure thing, Halperin says. For Republicans, what matters now is how they focus their message.
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Mark Halperin
The president's approval rating is typically the one piece of polling data that political professionals look at most closely. President Trump's approval rating ain't great, but Democrats aren't doing particularly well in the polls either. And Republicans goal is to make this not a referendum on Donald Trump, but a choice between the Republicans and the Democrats.
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Megyn Kelly
Despite the negative polling, Halperin says the political impact of the Iran conflict remains uncertain.
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Mark Halperin
Right now, Iran is just a huge wild card in this election. I think there's a lot of analysis about whether it will help or hurt Republicans. I think it is totally tied to how the war ends up. If the war is considered a success by the American people, it will help Republicans. If it's considered something short of that, it'll help the Democrats.
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Megyn Kelly
Even as gas prices climb, Halperin says Republicans still have an opening on economic messaging.
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Mark Halperin
If gas prices stay high, it is going to be a talking point for Democrats probably in every race in the country. Republicans want to focus on other economic issues. There are some positive signs in the economy, and Republicans can point to lower taxes and the tax cuts that people are going to feel coming up in April around tax time.
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Megyn Kelly
On the Senate map, Halperin says control will come down to a handful of races, but Republicans still have the edge.
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Mark Halperin
There's about nine Senate races are going to decide control of the Senate. There's been talk that Democrats have a good chance of taking the majority they need to net four total wins. And I think that's a taller order than a lot of people realize. So right now I favor the Republicans to keep the majority and I think it'll stay that way until we get clarity in the fall.
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Megyn Kelly
In the House, a different story, one where Democrats may have a much clearer path to power.
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Mark Halperin
This could shape up to be a very good year for Democrats in the House. They don't need to win many seats in order to take the majority because the narrow edge that Republicans have now. But I think this is a year when money will matter a lot. Right now Republicans have more of it and there aren't very many seats in play because of redistricting and because of the natural sorting that's taken place between red and blue America. So even if Republicans are wiped out, chances are they won't lose on the order of the kind of wipeout number of seats which seen in the past.
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Megyn Kelly
So where does it all land, Halperin gives us his current forecast for November.
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Mark Halperin
Right now, I forecast Republicans to narrowly keep the Senate, maybe even pick up seats in the Senate, given how things are shaping up, and Democrats to take control of the House, maybe narrowly, maybe by a lot. Republicans are really more focused now on keeping the Senate because that is a possibility, dwindling possibility maybe to the vanishing point of keeping control of the House.
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Megyn Kelly
And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for the MK show live on SiriusXM's the Megyn Kelly Channel 111 at noon east on YouTube.com Megan Kelly and on all podcast platforms.
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