New Details About Mormon Church Suspect, Trump and Netanyahu Unveil Gaza Peace Plan: AM Update 9/30

Summary

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The Megyn Kelly Show — AM Update 9/30

Date: September 30, 2025
Host: Megyn Kelly
Episode Focus:

• New revelations in the Michigan Mormon church attack
• Unveiling of the Trump-Netanyahu Gaza peace plan
• Legal and political developments, including major congressional budget disputes and a high-profile murder case

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Main Theme

This episode centers on breaking news related to domestic terrorism targeting the Mormon church in Michigan, the international unveiling of a bold new Gaza peace plan by former President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and updates on pressing legal and political standoffs gripping the US, including the looming government shutdown and developments in the Charlie Kirk murder case.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Michigan Mormon Church Attack Update

[00:32–05:55]

• Incident Recap:
  A gunman attacked a Church of Latter-day Saints in Grand Blanc, Michigan, ramming a truck, opening fire, and setting the building ablaze.

  • 4 dead, 8 injured (2 critically).
  • The victims ranged from ages 6 to 78.
  • The suspect, a 40-year-old Marine and Iraq War veteran, killed in a police shootout.

• Suspect’s Motive & Background:

  • FBI labeled it a “targeted act of violence” against Mormons.
  • Press Secretary Caroline Levitt shared that the assailant “hated people of the Mormon faith” and authorities are still probing the planning and possible premeditation.
  • Quote:

    “All they know right now is this was an individual who hated people of the Mormon faith... trying to understand more about this: how premeditated it was, how much planning went into it, whether he left a note.”
    — Caroline Levitt, Fox interview ([04:08])

• Personal Insights:

  • Chris Johns, a local city council candidate, described the suspect as “extremely friendly,” despite detectable animosity toward Mormons, and detailed a conversation where the suspect increasingly vilified Mormonism, calling it “the Antichrist.”
  • The suspect had a history of legal trouble including burglary and DUI.

• Ongoing Investigation:
  Law enforcement and the suspect’s family are cooperating; the church remains locked down for a multi-agency investigation.

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2. Trump-Netanyahu Gaza Peace Plan Unveiled

[05:56–09:22]

• Overview of the Plan:

  • Presented at the White House, coinciding with the upcoming second anniversary of the October 7 Hamas attack.
  • The proposal calls for:
    • Full demilitarization of Gaza
    • Governance by an international committee—the "Board of Peace"—chaired by Trump himself
    • Immediate return of remaining hostages (within 72 hours)
    • Israel to release ~2,000 prisoners in exchange
    • Gradual Israeli withdrawal; new international stabilization force assumes security
    • Amnesty for disarmed Hamas members (no forced displacement)
    • Gaza redevelopment as a special economic zone under international oversight
    • Prospects for future Palestinian statehood tied to comprehensive reform

• Key Quotes & Memorable Moments:

  • Trump:

    “My plan calls for the creation of a new international oversight body, the Board of Peace. We call it this. So it'd be headed by a gentleman known as President Donald J. Trump of the United States... One of the people that wants to be on the board is the UK Former Prime Minister Tony Blair. Good man. Very good man.” ([06:18])

  • On Hamas:

    “Hamas and other terrorist factions will play no role in the board. They'll play no role in the governance of Gaza at all.” ([07:21])

• International Response:

  • Qatar, Jordan, UAE, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt released a joint statement welcoming the deal—pending Hamas's acceptance. ([07:23])
  • Hamas's leadership decimated, so negotiations are with “historically lower level people,” raising doubts about who can sign off for Hamas. ([07:51])

• Netanyahu’s Warning:

  • Netanyahu, from the White House:

    “We're giving everybody a chance to have this done peacefully...but if Hamas rejects your plan, Mr. President, or if they supposedly accept it and then basically do everything to counter it, then Israel will finish the job by itself. This can be done the easy way or it can be done the hard way, but it will be done.” ([08:38])

• U.S. Position:

  • Trump assured full U.S. backing to Israel if Hamas refuses the deal.
    ([09:22])

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3. Charlie Kirk Murder Case—Court Update

[09:23–13:11]

• Latest Hearing:

  • Tyler Robinson, accused in Kirk’s killing, appeared via phone for a status hearing.
  • His three-person taxpayer-funded defense team formalized under Rule 8 (Utah’s procedural safeguard for death penalty cases).
  • Attorneys Michael Burt and Richard Novak appointed; both have extensive death penalty experience.

• Discovery Process:

  • Defense sought more time to sift through “a substantial amount of discovery.”

  • Attorney Nestor emphasized the “voluminous nature of the digital discovery.”

    Quote:

    “We do think it would be prudent to simply reset for another conference... until we can kind of get our heads around exactly what we're dealing with.”
    — Lead defense attorney ([12:14])

  • Judge scheduled the next in-person court date for October 30 at 10:00am.

• Charges Robinson Faces:

  • Aggravated murder
  • Obstruction
  • Felony discharge of a firearm
  • Witness tampering
  • Violent offense in the presence of a child ([13:11])

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4. Looming Government Shutdown and Congressional Gridlock

[13:11–15:14]

• Budget Negotiations:

  • Deadlocked as funding set to expire at midnight.

• Democratic Perspective:

  • Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries blamed Republicans:

    “It's up to the Republicans whether they want to shut down or not ... We are not going to support a partisan Republican spending bill that continues to gut the healthcare of everyday Americans, period.” ([13:47])

• Republican Response:

  • House/Senate leaders accused Democrats of wanting to fund benefits for “illegal aliens” at the expense of taxpayers, noting Democrats have supported broken health care policies.
    • “We kept the government open. We're simply asking for the Democrats do the same. This is a hijacking of the American people and it's the American people are going to pay the price.” ([14:13])

• Vice President J.D. Vance:

  • Republicans will not negotiate health care policy during shutdown threats:

    “I think we're headed to a shutdown because the Democrats won't do the right thing.” ([14:51])

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “All they know right now is this was an individual who hated people of the Mormon faith..."
  — Caroline Levitt, [04:08]

• “The more questions the suspect asked...the more pointed they became...led to the alleged shooter declaring the religion as the Antichrist.”
  — Chris Johns on suspect’s behavior, paraphrased ([04:50])

• “My plan calls for...the Board of Peace...headed by a gentleman known as President Donald J. Trump...”
  — Donald Trump, [06:18]

• “Hamas and other terrorist factions will play no role in the board.”
  — Donald Trump, [07:21]

• “This can be done the easy way or it can be done the hard way, but it will be done.”
  — Benjamin Netanyahu, [08:38]

• “I do recognize we're going to be getting that first batch in five days, but...there is massive amounts of digital that is going to be coming...”
  — Attorney for Tyler Robinson, [12:14]

• “It's up to the Republicans whether they want to shut down or not... we are not going to support a partisan Republican spending bill...”
  — Chuck Schumer & Hakeem Jeffries, [13:47]

• “We kept the government open. We're simply asking for the Democrats do the same. This is a hijacking of the American people...”
  — Congressional Republican, [14:13]

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Flow & Tone

Megyn Kelly delivers the episode with her trademark no-nonsense, brisk and direct reporting style, emphasizing facts, direct quotes, and the gravity of each unfolding event. The urgency of the government shutdown, the raw emotion behind the church attack, and the magnitude of the Gaza proposal form a tone of seriousness and high stakes throughout the morning update.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:32–05:55] Michigan Mormon church attack details and investigation
• [05:56–09:22] Announcement and analysis of Trump-Netanyahu Gaza peace plan
• [09:23–13:11] Legal update in Charlie Kirk murder case
• [13:11–15:14] Congressional standoff over potential government shutdown

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Summary:
This episode weaves together dramatic domestic developments with high-impact international diplomacy and ongoing legal confrontations. With direct reporting, in-depth interviews and candid attributions, listeners are briefed on urgent issues—the aftermath of a tragic church attack, potential changes in the Middle East, and a US government at the brink of paralysis.

Transcript

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[Megyn Kelly]

Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Tuesday, September 30, 2025, and this is your AM update. This was an individual who hated people of the Mormon faith. New information emerges about the suspect accused of attacking a Mormon church on Sunday in Michigan.

[Donald Trump]

Hamas and other terrorist factions will play no role.

[Megyn Kelly]

President Trump announcing a sweeping new Gaza peace plan as the awaits Hamas's response. Alleged Charlie Kirkusas and Tyler Robinson's legal team requesting more time to sift through the evidence presented by prosecutors and lawmakers at a standstill in budget negotiations as the government nears the shutdown deadline. All that and more coming up in just a moment. On your AM Update. Have you heard about biohacking? It's what some top athletes, CEOs, even doctors are using to take control of their health. Most people today are stuck in the cycle of fatigue, weight gain and brain fog. But biohacking changes that, giving your body the exact tools it needs to heal, recover and perform at its peak. That's why I want to tell you about all family pharmacy. They have your everyday prescriptions and essentials, but they also make it easy to get powerful biohacking treatments you won't find at regular chain pharmacies. 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The victims, ranging in age from 6 to 78 the suspect also killed in a shootout with police. The FBI describing the attack as a targeted act of violence. As investigators probe the suspect's past, new details emerging about the 40 year old Marine and Iraq War veteran's life. Press secretary Caroline Levitt Monday morning on fox. From what I understand based on my conversations with the FBI director, all they know right now is this was an individual who hated people of the Mormon faith and they are trying to understand more about this, how premeditated it was, how much planning went into it, whether he left a note. All of those questions have yet to be answered, but certainly will be answered by the FBI. Burton City Council candidate Chris Johns spoke to the suspect less than a week before the attack while canvassing for his campaign. John's describing the man to the Detroit Free Press as, quote, extremely friendly. And though the suspect appeared to hold animosity toward Mormons, John's saying it did not seem violent. John's going on to say he conversed with the alleged gunman for about 20 minutes. The suspect opening up about his military career and his struggles with drug addiction. Upon returning home, Johns says the suspect told him he moved to Utah at one point and was in a relationship there with a woman who came from a Mormon family. From the Detroit Free Press, quote, the suspect began asking him open ended questions about Mormonism. The more questions the suspect asked on the topic, the more pointed they became. Johns said everything the suspect asked him about Mormonism led to the alleged shooter declaring the religion as the Antichrist. Johns says he recognized the alleged gunman instantly when he saw images on TV and social media. Police Chief William Rennie saying on Monday the alleged gunman had been previously arrested for burglary and driving while intoxicated, though did not elaborate further. The suspect's family is cooperating with investigators. According to the White House. The scene of the attack still on lockdown as multiple agencies investigate the wreckage. President Trump joined by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, unveiling a 20 point plan to end the war in Gaza on Monday at the White House. The White House announcing the plan just eight days ahead of the second anniversary of the October 7 attack when Hamas militants invaded Israel, killing 1,200 people and taking 250 hostages. The sweeping plan calling for Gaza to be fully demilitarized and governed by a temporary international committee known as the Board of Peace chaired by President Trump. The 48 hostages remaining, 20 of whom are believed to be alive, would be returned within 72 hours and in exchange, Israel will release almost 2,000 prisoners. Aid would immediately begin flowing into Gaza as Israeli forces gradually withdraw, handing over security to a newly created international stabilization force. Hamas members who disarm will be granted amnesty and allowed to leave Gaza, though no one will be forced to move anywhere. The area will be redeveloped as a special economic zone with international oversight until the Palestinian Authority completes a reform plan. If all conditions are met, there is a possibility of eventual Palestinian statehood. President Trump describing the proposed temporary governing.

[Donald Trump]

Structure to ensure the success of this effort, my plan calls for the creation of a new international oversight body, the Board of Peace. We call it this. So it'd be headed by a gentleman known as President Donald J. Trump of the United States. That's what I want, is some extra work to do, but it's so important that I'm willing to do it and we'll do it right. And we're going to put leaders from other countries on and leaders that are very distinguished leaders. And we'll have a board and one of the people that wants to be on the board is the UK Former Prime Minister Tony Blair. Good man. Very good man. And some others. And they'll be named over the next few days and it'll be quite the board working with the World bank and others. It will be responsible for recruiting and training a new government that will be made up of Palestinians, along with highly qualified experts from all around the world. Hamas and other terrorist factions will play no role in the board. They'll play no role in the governance of Gaza at all.

[Megyn Kelly]

The foreign ministers of Qatar, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Egypt releasing a joint statement welcoming the deal, which hinges now on Hamas's acceptance after nearly eight months of stop and start negotiations between the White House, Israel, Arab leaders and Hamas. All eyes now on the terrorist organization. Fox News reporting Hamas negotiators have been briefed on the planet and are reviewing it.

[Political Commentator]

We don't know where Hamas stands on this proposal. The leadership has been meticulously taken out by Israel. Yahya Sinwar was killed in the city of Rafah in southern Gaza. Mohammed Def, killed in the southern city of Khan Younis. Ismail Haniyeh killed in the Iranian capital of Tehran. So the people negotiating on behalf of Hamas are historically lower level people. They are not actually the decision makers. And so they're all that's left from the leadership in this terrorist organization. And it raises questions about who will be able to put that final pressure on Hamas to have them basically sign off on this agreement.

[Megyn Kelly]

Political reporting one source involved in the process suggests a response may take a few days. Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu from the White House issuing a warning to Hamas.

[Jerry]

We're giving everybody a chance to have this done peacefully, something that will achieve all our war objectives without any further bloodshed. But if Hamas rejects your plan, Mr. President, or if they supposedly accept it and then basically do everything to counter it, then Israel will finish the job by itself. This can be done the easy way or it can be done the hard way, but it will be done. We prefer the easy way, but it has to be done. All these goals must be achieved because we didn't fight this horrible fight, sacrificed the finest of our young men to have Hamas stay in Gaza and threaten us again and again and again with these horrific massacres.

[Megyn Kelly]

President Trump saying Israel will have the White House's full backing to finish the job if Hamas rejects this deal. Coming up, the man accused of killing Charlie Kirk back in court with an expensive taxpayer funded legal team. And with the government prepared to shut down tonight, Republicans and Democrats refusing to blink. For now, it's the time for Medicare annual enrollment again. The mailers, the robocalls, the texts, blowing up your phone. It's a circus. But this is the one Medicare message you actually do need to hear. Medicare plans can change every year. So even if you think you're good with your current plan, you have to look at what's coming for 2026 or you could lose coverage for things you depend on. This is why I want to tell you about Chapter. They look at every plan in the country to make sure you're not getting ripped off. On average, they save people $1,100 a year. Look, I know you don't want to deal with this. Nobody does. But Chapter can check your options out in under 20 minutes. If your plan is the best one for you heading into 2026, great, you're done. If not, they're going to help you switch. No gimmicks, no high pressure sales, just straight talk from people who know what they are doing. Call Chapter today at 27 Medicare for peace of mind. That is 27 Medicare to speak with a trusted advisor today. Charlie kirks accused assassin, 22 year old Tyler Robinson, appearing by phone in court yesterday for a routine status hearing. Speaking only once to confirm his presence on the line, Robinson dialing in at the request of his newly appointed defense counsel from the Utah County Jail where he is being held without bond. The hearing lasting about 10 minutes. District Court Judge Tony Graf previously determining Robinson cannot afford a lawyer. Formalizing Robinson's three person defense team, the court enters findings that the combined Experience.

[Political Commentator]

Of counsel meets and exceeds the requirements of Rule 8.

[Megyn Kelly]

Utah law requires the court to appoint two or more well qualified attorneys in death penalty cases where the defendant is indigent. Last week, the Utah county commission approving a $1 million contract funding both Robinson's legal defense team and the prosecution. Attorney Catherine Nestor named Robinson's attorney Michael Burt and Richard Novak appointed as co counsel. According to Deseret News, each has decades of legal experience, including extensive work on death penalty cases. The prosecution yesterday confirming an open line of communication with Robinson's defense team to share a quote, substantial amount of discovery. Lead defense attorney Nestor asking for more time to review the documents before making a decision on whether to proceed with a preliminary hearing.

[Attorney]

It is not our intent to waive a preliminary hearing in this matter. We are going to be seeking that one be set. However, based largely on what the state just referred to as far as voluminous nature of the discovery materials, we do think it would be prudent to simply reset for another conference, another waiver hearing a little bit down the road where we have a better idea once we start seeing the discovery as it rolls in. I do recognize we're going to be getting that first batch in five days, but it's my understanding from our meeting today that there is massive amounts of digital that is going to be coming and we until we can kind of get our heads around exactly what we're dealing with and how much we need to process, it's going to be difficult for us to give you a reasonable expectation of when, when we will be ready to do the prelim.

[Megyn Kelly]

Judge Graff setting the next court date for October 30th at 10:00am where Robinson will appear in person for the first time. He faces one count of aggravated murder, two counts of obstruction, felony discharge of a firearm, two counts of witness tampering and commission of a violent offense in the presence of a child. Congressional leadership meeting at the White House yesterday as the government's funding is set to run out at midnight tonight. Walking away without a deal. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries after the White House meeting yesterday.

[Jerry]

It's up to the Republicans whether they want to shut down or not. We've made to the President some proposals. Republican leaders will have to talk to them about them, but ultimately he's the decision maker. Significant and meaningful differences remain and we are not going to support a partisan Republican spending bill that continues to gut the health care of everyday Americans, period.

[Political Commentator]

Full stop.

[Megyn Kelly]

House Speaker Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thune, putting it this way.

[Political Commentator]

They wanted to restore taxpayer funded benefits. Okay, hard working taxpayers in America, they want to take your funds and give that for benefits to illegal aliens. During the Biden administration, there were 13 threatened shutdowns. The Republicans in the minority did the right thing. We kept the government open. We're simply asking for the Democrats do the same. This is a hijacking of the American people and it's the American people are going to pay the price.

[Megyn Kelly]

Vice President J.D. vance saying Republicans are open to discussions on issues like health care, but not amid a shutdown.

[Political Commentator]

You will hear a lot from Senate Democrats, from House Democrats about the fact that American health care policy is broken. Well, we know that American health care policy is broken. We've been trying to fix it for the eight months that we've been in office. But every single thing that they accuse about being broken about American health care is policy the Democrats have supported for the past decade. I think we're headed to a shutdown because the Democrats won't do the right thing.

[Megyn Kelly]

Round and around and around they go. You know the drill. And that'll do it. For your AM Update, I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for the Megyn Kelly show live on Sirius XM Triumph channel 111 at noon east on YouTube.com Megyn Kelly and on all podcasts. Podcast platforms.

[Jerry]

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[Political Commentator]

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[Jerry]

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[Political Commentator]

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[Jerry]

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[Political Commentator]

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[Jerry]

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[Political Commentator]

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[Jerry]

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[Megyn Kelly]

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[Jerry]

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[Political Commentator]

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