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Pratt and Hilton Closer to Runoff, and CBS News WAR Between Pelley and Bari Weiss, with Adam Carolla | Ep. 1331
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Megyn Kelly begins the show talking about the election results for California governor and Los Angeles mayor, the alarming delays in getting the final tally, Spencer Pratt and Steve Hilton seemingly making the runoffs, and more. Then Adam Carolla, host of The Adam Carolla Show, joins to discuss the emotional factors that influence Los Angeles voting behavior, how Karen Bass could possibly be re-elected, shifting political dynamics that could see Spencer Pratt actually win, California politician Scott Wiener and his bizarre campaign that won last night, Pride Month starting and some companies focusing on it more than others, Jennifer Lopez’s Pride Month message and announcing her daughter now becoming her son, the growing chaos inside CBS News, Scott Pelley getting fired and attacking his former boss Bari Weiss publicly, why every side is at fault, Pelley’s smug and biased tenure at 60 Minutes, the war of words between the two sides now, the public outrage and protests in the UK fo...
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Visit mathnasium.com to find a location near you welcome to the Megyn Kelly show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon East. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show and Happy Wednesday, where we still do not know the results of yesterday's key California elections. My God, they're so slow. This is third world crap. Honestly, why, why, why in 2026America does it take a state three days to figure out who won an election that shouldn't we be doing better than this by now? It's embarrassing. Take a lesson from Florida. You know you're both sunshiny states. Yeah, that pretty much ends the similarities. But you could take a lesson from Florida, which got its act in gear after the 2020, sorry, 2000 election, Bush v Gore, when it was a nightmare. So they figured it out. And they've had it figured out ever since. And you could take a lesson. Anyway, what we know so far tells us there are some encouraging signs that I don't want to say. Like I don't want to be too optimistic here. It definitely feels like Lucy in the Football, but it does at least look like Steve Hilton's going to make it into the final two for the gubernatorial race and Spencer Pratt is holding his own. I don't trust them. I'm not a big as you guys know, I think my audience would like me to be much more open minded to the possibility of election stealing. I'm not big on that. I just, I don't tend to believe that government's that organized. However, California takes so long. Last time, Karen Bass was behind and then suddenly surged to become the. I just. I don't know. So are they actually going to let Steve Hilton or Spencer Pratt take a leadership post out there? I don't know. I don't want to be too conspiratorial, but we'll see. Here's what we know. It's an open primary for governor. Start at the top here. And our friend Republican Steve Hilton is currently in first place with about 28% of the vote, with just under 60% of the results in. So that's good. More than half of the votes are in and he is leading with about 28% of the vote. He just has to be one of the top two to go after the general election, which happens in November. In second place right now, former California Attorney General and Biden administration Health and Human Services Secretary Javier Becerra. He's got about 25%. They're still counting. The other 40% of the vote. In third right now with about 20% of the vote, is far left loon pro boys and girls sports billionaire Tom Steyer. This man is absolutely bizarre. And I'm sorry, he's too weird. Even for Californians. He is. He's too weird. You can't do it. That guy, I'm telling you right now, he's got some sort of weird skeleton in his closet. I don't know what it is, but there's something that guy's hiding that's probably going to come out because he's like, I'm going to show you his, his final campaign ad of the season. You know, he's been palling around with all the trannies out there. Well, he's taking it next level now. The top two, regardless of party, advance to face off in the general election this November. The race has not yet been called, of course, because they don't have enough of the vote in yet. But the betting markets, for what it's worth, give becerra over a 97% chance to advance. And Hilton is sitting in the low to mid-80s, even though he has more than Becerra right now. The bettors understand what California normally does. Steyer's around 20% in the betting markets. That's good. Poor Katie Porter's not even going to make in the top three. And now she's really got something to yell about. I hope she doesn't give up. Don't give up, Katie. We need you on the national scene. Don't Be discouraged. Find a way to stay in the national conversation. And in the state's biggest city, Los Angeles, amazingly, incumbent Democrat Karen Bass is projected to advance to November's election. My God, I like, what do you have to do as a black female Democrat in California not to get reelected or almost reelected. She allowed half of their city to burn down to the studs, and they're running to keep her in this thing. Unbelievable. Shame on you. Shame on you. The only thing I can think of when I look at what they're doing out there, like, if Spencer Pratt does not make it, if they reelect Karen Bass, truly, if they do, like, I, well, I will look at them. You know, I go on with Paul Murray of Sky News, and I was just saying this to him. You know how, like, you have the friend and, like, the husband cheats on her. You're like, well, you have a nice marriage. Maybe it was like a momentary lapse. Perhaps you could work it out. And okay, they do. Then she comes back a year later, she's like, oh, I caught him again. Only this time it was like three. Three strippers. Okay, you know what? That's not great. We might want to reevaluate. Doesn't seem like he's learned his lesson. Ten years later, he's had multiple affair partners and now he's impregnated somebody outside of the marriage. And like, at that point, you look at the friend, you say, I take it to somebody else. I don't care. I'm not listening. I'm no longer in the market for this conversation. You made your bed, lie in it. That's the point I'm at with Californians who would reelect Karen Bass. I really hope they don't do it. But she's on her way. Somehow she's managed to be in the top two. And the question is, who will be with her? Will it be that other left wing loon, Nithya Raman, or will it be Spencer Pratt who is Trump, like, in his media approach and his messaging in a good way. But do California voters consider that a good thing? I mean, like, I don't. They're definitely not in the mood for more Trump energy in most pockets of Los Angeles. So that could hurt him. But then again, he didn't burn down the city. His home was burned down, and he really wants to do something about it. And the incompetence that's been blanketing that town. So I don't know. I don't know what they're going to do right now. There's over 63% of the vote in for LA mayor again, Karen Bass is through. And in second place right now is Spencer Pratt. He's got about 30% of the vote. If that holds, it's going to be a one on one matchup between Pratt and Bass in November. Bring it. But a lot of the vote is yet to be counted. Betting markets giving Pratt a 65% chance of moving on with Nithya Rahman holding a 35% chance of continuing to the runoff. She's actually doing better than expected in a few of the smaller districts. So you can't counter out entirely as of this hour, but right now it's looking like Bass. Pratt still early. Speaking of changes to the establishment, there is so much drama happening right now over at CBS News. They fired 60 Minutes star Scott Pelley. He's out after he caused a scene and aggressively confronted the show's new executive producer in front of the whole staff earlier this week. I mean, this is like we are back in middle school, only it's 60 minutes. It's just so pathetic. In his statement after his firing, Pelly saying he prays for the day when, quote, sanity, competence and courage returned to CBS News. Well, he's not expecting to get his job back anytime soon, obviously. And now this morning, Barry Weiss, who's the editor in chief over there, issued her nasty little statement about him and he fired back again. It's a tit for tat situation. No one wants to give up the last word. Can I tell you something? They're, they're all behaving like children in my view. I got a lot of thoughts on this one. We'll get to it in a minute. But first, want to bring in our guest. We are joined this morning by Adam Carolla. He's host of the Adam Carolla show, which you can listen to every weekday Morning on Sirius XM's the Megyn Kelly Channel 1 11. Here's a question. How many brokers does it take to insure your business? If you are like most business owners, the answer is too many. Multiple policies, multiple applications, no clear view of how it all fits together. In fact, it's just a massive stressor for most people. And when questions come up, it's not easy to get the clarity you need. And usually you need it quickly when you're dealing with insurance. But super sure changes all that. It's a one stop shop for, for all of your business insurance backed by a team that works with you year round, not just at renewal. Their goal is to make this as easy as possible for you. And if you've ever stared at a policy wondering what it actually covers, super sure has a fine print fax tool that will translate the legal jargon into plain English so you know exactly what's covered and what's not. 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Yeah, one of my publicists said we had to keep it short. So as much as I enjoy the praise, we're really kind of on the clocks. So that's me getting my star a week ago, I think it was.
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That's so cool.
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Yeah, it was fun.
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I. You went. You went and did something when you got that star that made me do something I promised I'd never do, which is love.
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Again.
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Soft spot in my heart for Jimmy Kimmel. I know it made me have a soft spot for Jimmy Kimmel. I'm not gonna lie. Here is what he said when you got your star on the Walk of fame Set one.
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Adam and I, as you probably know, don't agree much when it comes to politics, but I love him dearly. I've never worked with anyone funn. I am proud of him. I am. This is a guy who worked his way up from nothing to become literally a millionaire. And if you don't believe it, you'll hear him say it every single show. Adam is a true original. He was a poor kid from the San Fernando Valley who was rejected by the management at Taco Bell and whose name will now forever be part of this filthy, disgusting intersection next to a bank that has been abandoned for, like, 35 years. It's true.
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That was great.
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You know, I got one more.
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This is you with a comment on him. Listen here.
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I don't know if Jimmy is the first person who believed in me, but he's definitely the first person that ever did anything about it. Others sort of were like, hey, nice one. And then they'd go their merry way. Jimmy took it upon himself to get me a career. And in a world with comedians can be pretty cutthroat, and there's a lot of sour grapes, and they don't like it if you make more money or get more famous or whatever that is. Comedians are famous for that, not Jimmy. Selfless, always behind me, always promoting me, and always making sure that I did the right thing.
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That is really sweet. I love your friendship. It's a reminder that our partisan leanings don't have to divide us in our personal relationships. Good for him for showing up and saying what he did and for always having your back. And for you as well, Adam. Congrats. That's awesome.
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Thank you. Now, there's something that's interesting that was in there, because Jimmy was joking that I would say, I'm a millionaire. Literally a millionaire going way back to the late 1990s when I was on Kroc radio out here. And I would say it. I would say all the time, I'd go, well, you know, I'm a millionaire. I'm literally a millionaire. And the reason I would say it 25 or 30 years ago is because I was feeling what's going on now. This, like, attack. The Bernie Sanders attack on success, attack on hard work, attack on millionaires. Now, back then, it was millionaires. Then Bernie became a millionaire. She upgraded it to billionaires. But there was this. Even back then, 25, 30 years ago, people were trying to downplay their success because they didn't want a target on their back. And I felt that pressure and went the other way and would constantly go, I'm literally a millionaire. A millionaire all the time. Because the kroc, the radio station would say, stop saying that. Stop it. Like, they don't. I would say, I flew first class back from New York. And they'd go, don't say you flew first class. And I'd go, why not? I'm a celebrity. You know? They'd go, people get angry if you tell him that I was like, f yourself. I'm not here to pretend like I'm poor. Get your shit together, work hard, and then you can literally be a millionaire. I'm not going to pretend like I'm you. You aspire to be me.
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I like that. I think people won't hold money or success, financial success against you if. Especially if you weren't born with a silver spoon in your mouth and you earned it, you know, you worked for it, worked hard. I think people respect that. And if you were born with the silver spoon. I think they'll forgive that too. Just as long as you're not bragging about it like, you did create it. You know, if you're honest about. I was very lucky and I inherited money from my parents. I don't think people will hold that against you. It's like the people to whom it's given who want to pretend that they're scrappy and weren't born on third base. That's annoying. You know, it's like, just stop. And then the people who become super rich and. And want to ruin our society with their money, like Tom Steyer. We all resent that.
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That guy's so weird. It's. It's. It's. He's hard to figure out, like. And it's also kind of.
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There's something going on there.
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Who's running that guy's campaign? Like, he's like, tom, we have to do the breakfast. Hold on. One more picture with a tranny, and then we can move forward. It's like, literally, he's an old billionaire white guy, made his money with prisons and oil and. And he's obsessed with trannies.
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Yeah.
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Weird.
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He is. And not only that. You tell me. When I saw this yesterday, my first thought was, my God, we're so lucky that we have Adam tomorrow. Look at his final. It's an election day video. This is his closing message to the voters of LA SOT3.
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I'm Tom Steyer, and I'm about to ride the D. Oh, when he said ride that, ride the D, I thought that D was short for dick, but okay.
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Of course. Don't we all do. Why is he saying that? And then there's a guy wearing a T shirt that reads, ride the D. This is a message to the California voters for the State House.
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I don't know who was just saying that. There are bottom when they want to be a top or something. I don't know. What. There's some kind of weird.
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Oh, I think, oh, it might not
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have been real, but it was Talario Talarico in Texas. Yeah, there's some kind of weird gay code thing that's going on, and I don't know. I can't figure what it is. It's weird. It's like Carol Burnett.
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What a straight man would say, my final message is, I want to ride the D. My God. What?
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I want to ride the D to Brownsville. I have no idea.
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I mean, I don't wanna get technical, but I think only a woman can ride the D. Anyway. Not for nothing.
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You may be right. But here's the thing. You know what I wanna say to everybody in California who didn't vote are in the gubernatorial race, Right. The ones that voted for Steyer or voted for Javier Becerra or Javier Bacaria, as Biden would call him. All you guys who think it's a good idea to vote For Javier Becerra, 10 minutes ago you were all in on Swalwell. So maybe your antenna is a little bit bent. Did you ever think that you could possibly be wrong with a vote? All the people that are now voting for Becerra were about to vote for Swalwell.
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Yeah. Maybe. Maybe sit at home.
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Right.
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Maybe give it up.
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Yeah. Maybe you're not.
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Maybe your instincts are not.
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Maybe your divining rod is not great.
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Yeah. Well, I'm worried a little. Because the rule in California is that you can mail in your ballot on Tuesday all day. You gotta get a postmark on Tuesday, and as long as you have one, those ballots will be accepted by county election officials for another week. I'm all for mail in ballots if that's how, you know, a state wants to do it, I guess. I don't know. Not. They're not great. I'm not actually all for them, but if you're going to do them okay, that they should have to be received by election day. What is this nonsense of. It's election week and we have to sit here waiting because people decided to mail in on the day of. And what happened in 2022 was on election night, Rick Caruso, the real estate developer, was in first place. Karen Bass was in second. And she did not overtake Caruso. For several days, as late arriving mailing mail in ballots continued to pour in, which undermines faith in the elections.
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Agreed. Well, listen, you know, they always announce this. The most important thing you can do is vote, you know, as. As an American. Yet it's so slapped together, the whole thing. You know, you should have to go in in person and vote. End of subject. And if you don't have the energy or wherewithal to do that, then sit home because. And I get mail in if you're in the military and you're abroad or something like that. But this Covid mail in thing is insane. They used Covid to usher all of this nonsense in. You can go to the Trader Joe's in Toluca Lake. It's packed with people. Why are people scared to leave their house to vote when the rest of society was open and every market was crowded? Liquor stores were crowded, theaters were crowded at that point. Why is Covid so unique as it pertains to voting? I didn't understand it. The rest of society was open here in California by the time the vote came around. So it leaves the door open for fraud. And it also. It's like. It's dei. And here's why I'm saying it's dei. The most insidious thing about DEI is you being on Harvard campus, seeing a young black man walk across the quad, and you think to yourself, is he really supposed to be here? Or is that just a DEI thing? Is that just an affirmative action thing? That's the worst part about it, the part that you have to think that way. And so anyone who wins Karen Bass over Caruso or Spencer, you know, Nithya Raman catches up to Pratt in the next two weeks, we all sit around and go, hmm, wonder what that's about. I don't want. As a voter, I don't wanna think that way. I just wanna tally all the votes and get the conclusion that night. Because everybody, especially any Republican in California and in Los Angeles is dubious all the time. We're like, I don't trust that system. Why do we want a system that we don't trust?
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Adam, how are the citizens of LA even considering Karen Bass, given what happened in the Palisades? Truly? Explain it to me.
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Well, I have a unique perspective because I was raised by these people. My mom was this way. My grandmother was this way. My family is this way, and they think this way. That's it. Before my mom died, it was during the runoffs. I mean, she died maybe a couple years after the runoffs with Newsom and Larry Elder. And at some point, she just said to me, I don't know who Larry Elder is, but I know who Gavin Newsom is, and I'm voting for him. Basically, I'm a Democrat. That's how I vote. And I don't care if the entire city burns to the ground. I vote this way.
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Wow. I mean that. It's so extraordinary. I get that. I'm a Democrat, and I vote Democrat. I get it. Or Republican. Vote Republican. But, like, she burned down the city. She didn't like the match exactly, but she might as well have. Her policies. Her DEI policies. No water in the reservoirs like I. She was in another country where she said she wouldn't be. She had received alerts. She didn't care. She went anyway. She stayed over there while the city was burning. I don't get it. What, like the city Burned down under her leadership. And even Gavin Newsom too. His leadership too. And they're thinking about trying to elevate him to the presidential level. I just. What would it take for them to say you're too incompetent to lead?
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Well, Democrats are not pragmatic by nature. They're emotional. You know, they're really not pragmatists. So the stuff that bothers pragmatic people doesn't really bother them. And LA is not run pragmatically, it's run emotionally. Like Nithya Raman, who's a total dope. I think the last time I came on, I told you, she blamed Toyota for making catalytic converters too easy to steal on their car. So she's a socialist dope. She said in an interview she was kind of surprised by how this whole thing came about. And she thought she was going to be talking about bike lanes. She thought this election for mayor of Los Angeles, with this homeless problem and infrastructure and fire and everything, she wanted to focus on bike lanes. She wanted to focus on road diets, meaning taking two lane highways and shrinking them down to one lane highways so people could ride their bikes. Like, wow. Honestly, that's what she was thinking about. So that's what these dopes are up there. And Democrats are emotional voters. Like, ice is so mean and Trump is so mean and he's cruel. They just play to dumb people's emotions all the time. And when dumb people get emotional, they go, I don't care if the city burns and I don't care if there's homeless everywhere. This guy's mean or that person. And they're literally running. Karen Bass was running on Spencer Pratt being rude to homeless people. The guy's a Fendal ad.
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Oh my.
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He's a jug, by the way. These people deserve to be treated with dignity. He's got a load in his pants and he's shooting up behind a dumpster. Well, let's not worry about dignity for a moment. Let's worry about rehab dignity, and then we'll get to dignity. Dignity has been gone for a long time now. She was worried that he was being mean to homeless people. And also, Karen Bass is a world class dope. All these people are dopes. And I know I sound redundant, but I will tell you this. The reason we have a homeless problem is because they will not understand the homeless problem. Karen Bass said when she was talking about Pratt calling these people crazy. She said, you sleep on the sidewalk for two weeks and tell me if that doesn't make you A little bit crazy.
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Oh my God.
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The sidewalk doesn't make you crazy. You have to be crazy to sleep outdoors on the sidewalk. She acts like regular folk just lost their job and went and slept on a sidewalk. They can't. Gavin Newsom sat right here and told me all about homelessness is insane. What he they think these are mothers that got divorced, that lost their job. One last point, Megan. They. Karen Bass also says a lot of the homeless, these are elderly people who lost their job and now can't pay their rent. Do you know how long in Los Angeles it takes to evict a person from your apartment building if they stop paying rent? The over under is like 18 years. Every law is on their side. You don't miss one payment and then you're out on the street the next day. If you're in an apartment building in California, in Los Angeles and you can't pay your rent, you can stay there for at least a year without paying rent with no consequence whatsoever. So what do you mean they lost their job and now they can't pay their rent? You lose your job, you can't pay your rent. You have about two years to get a new job.
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Yeah. By the way, the other thing is we see this in New York all the time too where there are similar policies. You don't have to live in la.
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Right.
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You don't have to live in New York.
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Right.
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You can go to parts of the country that are a lot cheaper. If you are that destitute, if like you really actually do, you cannot afford the cost of living of an apartment there because you lost your job. I mean it happens. And young people deal with this all the time. They get out of college, their first job isn't very good, and they have no choice but to move to a community that may not be at the top of their list for their long term living, but they go someplace where they can afford it and build themselves up. And if you happen to fall on hard times in LA and you lose your job and you can't get another one, you could either live off the public dime forevermore cause that's an option for you, or you could go to a community that's a little bit more reasonable. You don't actually have to go right to the street as she would like to pretend. Here's a guy. This is making the rounds online. Something you said about Karen Bass reminded me his name is Doug Ellen and he's the producer behind the hit show Entourage on hbo, which is based on Ari Emanuel's role As a crushing mega agent and his, you know, and his stars, who he represents. And here's what he said just yesterday. Sat 6, the L A times.
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Gaslighters.
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It's weird.
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One of 15 cameras that I now have at this house. Two German Shepherds, three legal guns five years ago, didn't lock a door here. But you know what happened? Two animals invaded my house. And no, I'm not racist, because they were wearing masks. I don't know if they were white, I don't know if they were Jewish. I don't know if they were rabbis. I know they were animals because they invaded my house. I know. I don't care what their excuses are like. A lot of you care. I know Invaders of home should get 20 years, but I'm not paranoid. So I don't believe your about the stats and the crime because everyone in my neighborhood has got the same problem. They're all putting cameras and hiring security guards because we're all getting broken into. It's not made up, it's not false.
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And.
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And this city has collapsed in the last five years. There is no fucking denying it. Unless you have an agenda, and I don't know what that is. So right now you're putting people in the same position that you did with Trump. Who I did not vote for, by the way. You put him in by making sure we had no fucking options. Okay? Yeah.
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Amen. Right? Sing it. I'm sure he speaks for a lot of frustrated left leaning people in LA
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and California, I gotta say. I was at Pratt's party last night and I ran into a ton of people. First off, it's weird being in LA and having a bunch of people who agree with you in the same place, because that's very rare for me when you're you, when I'm me, and I always am. But I ran. It was a weird thing. I was like, there was a lot of black people, there were a lot of Hispanic people. They're all like, I agree with you 100%. We gotta get Pratt in there. This is nuts. And I was like, right in the middle of Hollywood, basically. And I was like looking around, I spoke, and I won't say who their husbands were because they were. They'd asked me not to say, but I ran into multiple women whose husbands were very prominent comedians and entertainers and household names, legendary type names. And they were all in on Pratt. They voted for Trump. They disagree with their husbands, insanely. And there's a whole group of them and they're on text threads with other Wives and other. And they're like. And I'm like, I can't even believe you people exist. And they're like, yeah, there's a lot of us. We're not down with any of this. And I'm like, oh, it's like some kind of quiet, secret, underground Murano thing going on. And I couldn't believe it. I'd never seen it before, but there are a lot. And that number's growing.
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I'm not surprised, because I think moms care about safety. That is one issue that can unite left and right. We want our kids to be able to have safe schools, safe travel to and from schools. We do not want them getting attacked by criminals in their beds or their homes or when they get off the school bus to have to step over zombies holding hypodermic needles that they might get stabbed with. I mean, what. No mother wants that. And, you know, while the dads are the protectors of the family, the moms are mama bears over the children and will fight most dangers that they can identify. And in la, it's tough to miss. Like, listen to that guy Doug Allen, what he was saying. So I'm sure they're feeling it. Even though abortion's always at the top of the list, they know that's taken care of in California. They know they're not gonna lose their right to abortion if Spencer Pratt becomes mayor. That's not something a mayor controls. So. Yeah, why wouldn't you? You might. I think there's probably a secret Pratt vote, same way there was a secret Trump vote or reluctant, you know, where they. They don't tell the pollsters. They don't tell anybody, but once they get in there, they pull the lever.
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Yes.
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You mentioned his party last night. You here. Was his final messaging going into. Or. Or was it today? Actually, no, it was when he found out that he was in the second place position as of now, anyway. Well, let's hope he stays there because that'll move him on to the general. Here's Stop.
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B
Five obviously got wanted. Five more months of me exposing all the failures of our mayor. So it's going to be a fun ride. I hope she's ready. Are you ready? I mean, I was born for this, clearly.
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A
All right, so he's right. God wanted it. And let's just check in with how Team Democrat is doing and Karen Bass, who decided to spend her final hours on this race with Kathy Griffin and see if any of this messaging is familiar to you at all in Democrat politics. Adam, here we go. Sat 7 I really think a lot of the adversity comes your way because you're a black woman. It seems like the city council can be hostile towards you as well as LA Sheriff's Department and lapd. What it's like dealing with such maybe non diverse groups as law enforcement, although they are diverse, but there's maybe some white nationalism in law enforcement is my opinion.
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B
I think the greatest misunderstanding, though is the fact that there's no way a city or a state or a county has power over, over the federal government. People would like for me to make LAPD arrest ICE officers, but what they
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don't understand, it's not that LAPD is giving me a hard time.
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B
LAPD does not have the power to do that. It's very important that I do everything I can to protect our immigrant communities. But it's also important for people to
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A
understand what I can do and what I can't do.
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B
All right, bunch of thoughts. Bunch of thoughts.
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A
Yeah, please.
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B
Okay. This thing where first off, people need of color when you're being called, you know, then all this race hustling is going on and they're calling LAPD racists or white nationalists or something. Stop nodding, just say no. That's not the case. It's majority, minority.
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A
Stand up for them.
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B
Yes. Why do every. All the black politicians are like, when they're going, the country's built on racism and slavery. And they just go, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. It's like it's bobblehead night at the Obama library. I don't know what the reference was, but stop it. Just say no. You know what? That's not a situation. I'm black. I was voted in as mayor. So I don't know what racism you talk about, but listen to me. Tom Bradley is black. Tom Bradley was the mayor of Los Angeles When? 1973. Before you were born, Megan. Before you were born, My dear, don't argue with me. I got eyes before you were born. We had a Black Mare in 1973, over 50 years ago. And Tom Bradley was mayor from 73 to 93. He was mayor. I mean, I was literally like in the fourth grade, maybe the third grade when he became mayor. By the time he got out of there, I was like working on a construction site with a beer and a cigarette in each hand. Like, that's how long this guy.
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A
But LA's racist. But the voters are racist and the city council's racist still. And that's why there's been any blowback on Karen Bass, right?
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B
And everyone liked Tom Bradley. He was a Democrat. He was competent. He was a Democrat in the old school version of a Democrat, which is sensible and pragmatic. And he ran the city and it was fine. And nobody said. Nobody said a word about his color ever. So that's number one with this stupid race hustle, which is insane. Also, we got our first female black mare and it didn't work out. Her name is Karen Bass. We did the experiment. Great. Check the box. We had our first female black mare. She sucked and ruined the city. Now let's move on to the guy with the British accent and see if we can get something done. Or Spencer Pratt.
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A
Yeah, those two guys I like. I mean, on the state house level, I like how it's looking. I'm thrilled that Steve Hilton appears, at least as of now, to be securely in the top two and that Tom Steyer doesn't look like he's gonna make it. Thank God. Despite his plea that he would. His promise that he would ride the D. Yeah, I mean, by the way, that's not all. This is the other thing. So that was his closing message. And then on top of that, TMZ got its hands on video of him singing with a bunch of drag queens in West Hollywood the night before the election. Look at Sat Vor. I'm so embarrassed for him. You. You can't say you're going to ride the D and sing with the trannies and actually try to tell us that you're not going to back down. And you're tough. These. These things are incongruous. Voters understand there's a lie happening here on, like, a visceral level. And I actually am kind of encouraged that he's been rejected. God willing. I mean, the vote's not done, but I think as of now, he's been rejected. That's a good sign, Adam. You know, like, this isn't working. This particular lane has been defeated as a. As a viable way to win election, even in California.
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B
Yeah, Tom Steyer's like a chicken in every pot and a dildo in every nightstand. He's a weirdo. He's a billionaire. Let me tell you something. If I was a 70 something year old weirdo billionaire, I would just go buy Epstein's island and call it a life, you know, just. Just call a life. What are you doing?
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A
Same. Me too. I'd be sitting on the bar, on the. On the beach at St. Bart's you know, watching the boats roll in. I would not be dancing with a bunch of trannies, which is just a naked you know, attempt at pandering to a certain crowd in California. And I love that it's been rejected. He. So far, God willing, it's been rejected. Sadly, it was not rejected in the case of the vile, reprehensible, disgusting weirdo Scott Weiner, who did manage to advance in the primary for Nancy Pelosi's soon to be vacated seat. He. He's a state representative right now, and he's managed to advance to the general election for that seat. And that's very unfortunate because he is truly a devil. I can't stand this guy. Here he is in May 2026. Could be. Could be a Tom Steyer event. If you look at this sound bite
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B
Saudi with pallets in hand. There's a choice.
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A
Monum got an enormous singing dream about him.
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B
The wiener is a girl's best friend. There may come a tank bro who spends all his million.
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A
All right, we get it, we get it. This sanctioned campaign event, that's enough. Ahead this. Got it. But for the listening audience, it's yet another who's in baby clothes. Like, the trans baby is a thing now, where he's got, like, the little pink ruffled, like, little pants you put on a girl like a toddler in a dress. And they love to infantilize themselves so that people want to. What? I don't know. Like, they're promoting pedophilia and trans. I don't know what they're doing. I know. It's sick. Scott Wiener is sick. He's sick and he's gonna win that seat, Adam.
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B
I just imagine, like, reanimating John Wayne and Charlton Heston and going, let me tell you guys what's going on in your city in 2026 and your state. And they'd go, what is it? I go, well, most of the Democratic politicians are talking about the trans issue, and they'd be like, transportation, good idea. Finally gonna widen that 405. No, no. This is something you guys never heard of. This is dudes who tuck their junk between their legs and mince about. And they're fighting so they can do it in front of five year olds. And they'd be like, what the hell is going on over there? And I'm like, they all went nuts. I don't. Again, I don't know how big a constituency there is for the trans. Like, how you act like these people are 80% of the country or something like these. It's a small number of mental patients who want to terrorize kids in libraries. Why is this your hill to die On.
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I have to say, though, on the subject of whether we've made real progress on this front, notwithstanding Scott Wiener and the way Stiers spend his. His final days, we are making some progress on the LGBTQ fight. I'm all for the LGs. I don't really believe in the Bs. If you're a B, you're really just an L or. Right, a G, but whatever. I'm for the L's and the G's. Fine. But the tqs, it's a different matter. And for the first time in years, we're seeing very little on the pride front as we celebrate Pride Month, because it's not enough to be, like, cool with somebody being gay or lesbian. There's a certain faction of this group that wants us to really celebrate. As Roger Ailes used to say, where you put your pecker, they want us to sell, you have to celebrate it. Like, I'm so thrilled you put it there.
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B
Right?
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A
It's a no. I don't need to be celebrated for my choices in the bedroom, and I don't need to celebrate anybody else's now. Gma, Good Morning America apparently didn't get the message, and that's no surprise, because, of course, this is a Disney property. You know, it's the. The Disney family over there at abc. And so while we've had good things like Target for once, not. Not really leaning in the tuck friendly bathing suits with extra crotch coverage that they had back in 2023, that. That's not. That's not really taking over anymore. So that's. That's good. It appears that they've. They've calmed down now. Good Morning America, different story. Hold on a second. I think we've got an example. Here's sat 24. We're kicking off Pride Month with Tori Johnson and two business owners that we love. Jason Wu, the founder of Jason Wu Beauty, and Christian C. Siriano, the founder of Runway two incredible products that we're featuring today. Tor. Oh, yeah. And so we're starting with. This is not just, like, a celebrity brand. This is like the real deal. Clean and effective results that you're gonna see and feel.
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B
Chris McMillan, right?
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A
Making his product debut here. He's. Okay. Now we're doing, like, Pride stuff. Salsa.
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B
All right, all right.
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A
Well, welcome back to gma and that
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B
was an amazing performance. So let's take a look at our GMA Pride camera. It's Ezra Sosa from Dancing with the Stars, and here's his message. Hey, Ezra, what's up? Pride.
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Salsa. It's Ezra Sosa from Dancing with the Stars and I have a very special
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B
message for you guys. Wait, Ezra, why are you doing that? Why don't you just come out and tell us in person? Come on out, Ezra.
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A
Come out, Ezra. So I wanted to donate $10,000 for you guys. For Pride Salsa.
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B
You know how many butt plugs you can buy for $10,000? It's a lot.
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A
By the way, I forgot to tell you, over at Target, on their homepage on day one of Pride 2026, they have a USA section with straight white blonde people who are all part of the same nuclear, male, female led family front and center. So that's my evidence that Target has gotten the message since the days of the Tuckett bathing suit, which appear to have disappeared, at least as far as we could find or tell. So that's target, but GMA and Disney, different story. Pride salsa, 10 grand to. I don't know what that's going to do.
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B
You know, I hate all of this stuff. I hate all the, you know, black month, the gay month, the trans month. I don't want any of it. I don't like any of it. I, I think always sends a message that we need to fix things that don't need to be fixed. Like every single Martin Luther King Day speech since I've been alive has always been, you know, we've made a lot of progress, but there's still a lot to go. Like, we still need every single, you can see it every single year into modern times, they go, we've come a long way, but we got a long way to go. And it's like, tell us specifically what you're talking about in terms of a long way to go. Because that says to me, like, you're still like kind of Jim Crow, you know, and maybe some of you can
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vote, but you'll never get there.
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B
You'll never get there. And also at this point, who's holding you back? Whitey? The government? Like you tell, yeah, the long way to go is your families are effed up. That's what's in your culture screwed up. And you need to work on that. Somebody needs the honest conversation you wanna have around race. Is that conversation not a long way to go to get past racism?
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A
A long way to go? Well, look, I mean, every time you take one step forward, it does feel a little like two steps backward. I, I would not be talking about this person if she didn't put her out there. But JLO has got a child who is female, who now was, quote, non binary, which again is not a thing. And now has come out as fully trans. So now she wants us to call her a him and a he. And J. Lo's down for it. Here's her message about her, about. Well, Pride Month. SOT 30.
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B
Hi, beautiful people.
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It's Jennifer Lopez, star of Office Romance. And I am here to wish you a very happy Pride Month. Let's be honest, you deserve all 12 months of the year, so make sure this one is extra, extra special. In fact, you officially have permission to skip work. Just tell your boss Jennifer Lopez said it was okay. I am sure they'll understand. But in all seriousness, I hope all of your months are filled with love, laughter, joy, and chosen family. And if you're not out yet, that's okay. We're here and we're waiting for you whenever you're ready. No rush, no pressure, just love. Now let's get loud and proud this month. I love you. Happy Pride. Oh, okay, so here's the problem. Adam Jlo has spent far too much time in front of the camera looking for accolades, snaps, actual snaps with, you know, camera lenses and snaps like, you go girl, and far too little time at home. Otherwise she wouldn't have this problem with her daughter, who is now so desperate for attention that she's declared she's no longer going to be Emmy JLo's daughter. She's going to be someone named Oscar Muniz and will officially become, quote, a man. Which is not possible. This is an 18 year old twin daughter of hers. It's not accidental. If you ask me, that her ex, Ben Affleck, is having the same exact issue with his daughter who's pretending to be a man. Yeah, this is like they need to go home and spend time with their children who are clearly desperate for attention. Your thoughts?
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B
All right. Million. First off, she says Pride should be all year round. Yeah, that sounds awesome. It'd be awesome. Pride month was just Pride Year and then it just rolled into the next year. How about we alternate? Like, I'll give you guys Pride Year and then the next year gets to be straight dude year where you guys shut the fuck up for 10 minutes and just leave us alone and don't make us look at you, okay? And by the way, we got to get loud and proud. Oh, believe me, you're loud. I hear you in my sleep. So enough of that. Check, check that loud box. So as far as this goes, a couple of rules I'd like to institute. Because we used to have trans, we had cross dressers, we had pre op, we had a bunch of different labels, so we knew where everyone was at. So like, I'll give you an example. When the New York Times talks about Robert De Niro's daughter, they say he because she decided she was a he. So they want to respect that. So when the New York Times writes the article, they go, Robert DeNiro's son decided he would trans and cross. And I'm like, well, now I'm confused. Is it his son?
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Very.
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His son? No, his daughter, you idiots. Trant. His daughter became his son. But stop saying his son. Because now when you say like, when you go, they'll write an article, go, jlo's son transitioned. I'll go, oh, so now it's a girl, right? So we gotta have some ground rules. Cause I'm swimming here in your transing going on. She's a dope. She did a whole super bowl halftime show that was gonna be dedicated to getting kids out of cages at the border. Remember that? And all she did was shake her fat ass the entire halftime show. So shut up.
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And I'm sorry, but they're failing because CBS is a dinosaur that doesn't understand new media or what people want. And then the person they brought in to fix it knows nothing about broadcast journalism. Nothing. Literally nothing. Bari Weiss knows nothing about broadcast journalism. She's never worked in television. So I'm sorry. You may think she's great, you may love the free press. That's not the person to fix a television news outlet. And only the Ellisons, who don't seem to know much about television news either, would be so misguided as to think somebody who is not of TV in TV or has any familiarity with it or would be the one to fix it. On top of that, it's been very clear to yours truly from the beginning that CBS of all outlets would never accept an outsider. It has to be somebody from within their ranks. That is the most insular, insular group within television news. You couldn't find one more insular that would be more averse to an outsider being parachuted in and dropped in at the top. And you can say all day long, oh, screw them. The talent who do they think they are. They're not the executives. They don't own it. Fine, you can say that. But what is your news organization? Unless you're gonna fire them all, you're gonna have to find a way to get buy in from the ones who are there. And that is, it's just not gonna work to shove it down their throats and tell them that they have to like it. And it hasn't been working. The, the ratings are in the basement. They've never been worse, literally never been worse for the morning show and the evening news show. They're both failing mightily. And 60 Minutes is now in trouble and has never seen so much turmoil. So what's. And just for the record, back in December, this is December 11th of this year, I predicted that Barry Weiss, who was newly installed over there, would wind up firing Scott Pelley. I knew that she would fire him. I knew this would not work out. I also said at the same time that they would eat her alive from within, which is happening. But this is what I said about Scott Pelley. 12-11-25. Scott Pelley now gets honored for the very report itself. And this will be him at the awards with his glasses down at the end of his nose. I was right all along. I'm better than you. And we all know that because I host 60 Minutes. And if Barry is the woman I think and believe her to be, she will fire his ass before we are halfway through 2026. That's my prediction. He's fired out of there. Look forward to that news. And it came. It came today. He's fired before we are halfway through 2026. And Barry let him go. And I don't blame her one bit. It was the right call. He is arrogant. He's a prick. His programming and his just narcissism and closed mindedness on the air entitled him to a firing long, long ago. So this is overdue. But having said that, the way this shit is going down is completely unprofessional and bush league. And I'll just tell you one thing, Adam. So it all the drama spilled out into the public and the new executive of producer of 60 Minutes, who's brand new there and is not respected, nobody likes him either. He's never done any broadcast journalism either. He was from the New York Times, which is a print publication. He ran their documentaries unit and did some online videos here and there's. This is not going to be respected at CBS News at 60 Minutes. Get it through your thick heads, okay? There has to be some Massaging of the team of talent and producers who are there or fire them all. Do one or the other. But don't just try to say, I will parachute in somebody with zero experience and you will respect him, or else that's. That's just not going to work. That's not how it works. Anyway. So they try to parachute this guy in. He's not respected. And he and Scott Pelley clashed. Scott Pelley wanted to know, in front of the whole staff, demanded answers on why this guy and Barry fired the old executive producer and all their top, most senior correspondents last week without cause. It's been a bloodbath over there. And he's the managing editor and felt like he had the role of saying, how about some explanations? How about some answers to the rest of us here who are angry and instead. Instead of like, engaging Scott Pelley at all. And trust me, I. I can't stand Scott Pelly. But there is a way of managing talent, and the best in the business, like Roger Ailes, knew how to do it. Instead of managing him and actually trying to speak with him, it appears they just told him to fuck off. Okay, it's fine. I don't. That's fine. But you are guaranteeing yourself a media scandal. And I'll just tell you something about Roger, okay? Because I was very close with Roger. Yes, he sexually harassed me when I was young, in my career. But we got past it, and we were very close for my tenure at Fox. And I watched him, and I was his sounding board for many, many big decisions at Fox News. And he would almost never fire anyone. The only people he would really fire were people who tried to hijack him, who were like, I want you to double my salary or I'm out of here. I'm going to msnbc. And he would say, don't let the door hit you on the way out. By the way, I have the same policy. Anybody who tries to hijack me and. Or else, bye, everyone's replaceable. Get out. I will never be hijacked. But what he would do with talent he cared about or producing staff he cared about, who had to be moved out of their position because they weren't making it in the ratings or their show was failing for whatever reason is. He would make them think that they had gotten something close to a promotion. He would give them a better title, and he would usually give them a raise even though they were getting a demotion. And you know what that did? It kept them quiet. I can count on one or two fingers the number of times that we had like an open talent war that spilled out into the news media in any big, huge way while I was at Fox. And it's because Roger knew how to manage talent. And Adam, it's not because he. Roger absolutely could have ruled with an iron fist. He was the most powerful man in news. Everybody at Fox News knew he was the only man in charge. He was it not the Murdochs, him. And so we all had ultimate fealty to Roger, but he still took the effort to manage us because he knew it was bad for Fox to have the entire staff fired or the top people quit in a fit. And so even the ones who he didn't personally love and whom he was demoting, he would make them feel special, valued, and cared about for the good of the organization. What you have over at CBS News right now is amateur hour in the management ranks. And that is why we are seeing this very public dispute play out before our very eyes with Scott Pelley's confrontation of this new guy making the news. Now. Barry issues a public statement trying to claim that they worked with him. The new executive producer of this, Nick Bilton from the New York Times, issues a public letter explaining how Scott Pelley wouldn't dialogue with him. We shouldn't be hearing any of that from him. And now Scott Pelley's firing back with his own missive reiterating what allegedly happened in this meeting. We can get into all these details because they're interesting to us as outsiders, but that's my take on it. It's been mismanagement from a team of newbies that doesn't know what they're doing and doesn't have the confidence to act like true bosses, both for the good and the bad. And a prick, arrogant, narcissist jerk who's been in the top roll at 60 minutes for so long that he thinks whatever he says goes and has the temerity to question any editorial changes that come along with new management, some of which have been very good, honestly. Like the attempt to make 60 minutes somewhat more fair and balanced is a good thing. It's a noble thing, but he can't have it. And that actually seems to be what he's truly objecting to. Any attempt to massage the editorial at 60 which he thinks he has total control over, and he's learning the hard way, he's wrong. So your. Your thoughts on all that?
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I know Barry. I like Barry. I've done some events with Barry. She is not experienced in that department. I completely agree with you on that. Scott Pelley. I watched his commencement address at Harvard or wherever he was. Brown. And he's an arrogant douchebag. And he's a blowhard.
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A
Wake Forest.
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B
Wake Forest. I used to watch 60 Minutes religiously, and then I stopped watching because they became woke and left leaning. And, you know, when Leslie Stahl was talking to Trump. Sir, sir, you can't prove that. I was like, okay, so you're no longer.
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A
Can't be verified.
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What an idiot she is. It's no longer a news organization in my mind, so I just stopped watching. Why would I. Why would anyone watch it when it's so clearly leaning to the left? Now, you have to know that if someone like Bari Weiss shows up to an organization like this, they're not saying, let's do a little nip and let's do a little tuck. They're saying, we need to break bones and reset them. And Scott Peli and the rest of those types are not gonna go without a fight because they're leftists. And even though they claim to be journalists, my favorite part about Katie Couric or any of these idiots is the second they go out on their own, we see just who they are. After claiming their whole career to be fair and balanced. You know what I mean? Like, it'd be like me going, well, I only turned gay after the divorce. It's like, did you. You were 51. Really? Well, I was married for 22 years. Really? You weren't gay in your 40s? Nope. It's like, come on. So all these people, Jim Acosta, they all magically get super leftist and super liberal and super democr, and it's like, well, that's who you always were because you're in your 50s, 60s when you're doing this job, so spare us this fair and balanced BS with. As a journalist, I like when they go, you don't know how I vote. Yes, I do. I listen to you all day.
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Bang on Trump.
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B
This is insulting. So they probably should have just hired Barry Weiss and then just cleaned house day one, just said, look, yeah, we're not going to have internal battles. Especially with the left are so righteous. They really look at it as their job to battle everyone who may be perceived as anything right of center. They probably should have just shaken the whole thing like a Etch A Sketch and just went, we're starting brand new.
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Yep, I agree. That was an option. But if you're going to stick with the current staff, on air and off, then I'm sorry to inform you they do need to be Massaged. Yes, they do. Not Scott Pelley. I'm not saying exactly like, go kiss Scott Pelley's ass, but for the good of the. Is it good for CBS News to have this fight spilling out into the papers, this nasty, petty back and forth? It diminishes Barry Weiss, it diminishes this new guy, Nick Bilton. It diminishes Scott Pelley, all of them. It makes all of them look bad. And if you were managing an organization, you would understand that's not good for the company. It's not good for the shareholders. And therefore I might have to eat a piece of humble pie in order to maintain an outward facing humility and stability. And that is why instead of going in and trying to fire the exist. Because the one guy, Don. What was his name, who left. Steve.
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B
Oh, right.
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Oh, Bill. It was Bill Owens. Yeah, sorry, sorry. Bill Owens left and it was this big performative resignation and they all liked him, but they were all super sad. And then they put in this longtime CBS guy's daughter as the new executive producer. And she did have some support because she was like this sort of lifetimer. And really, I think it was probably Scott Pelly running 60 at that point. So they had some continuity and they had some support going internally. And 60 was chugging along in the way these leftists over at CBS wanted it to chug. And what you should have done if, if Barry and those who are making these decisions is if you wanted to change the makeup, if you wanted this woman out, she should have been given a promotion and ideally a raise to go run the documentary unit. That's where everybody goes, okay, whatever, find a way of doing it. Roger was more clever than that. But you don't have to be some way for them to save face so that you haven't humiliated women like Sharon Alphonse. I'm no fan of Sharon Alphonse. I thought she was an absurd correspondent. But the people inside 60 loved her. Okay? The people inside 60 loved the interim executive producer. They love the other woman who got fired. So you need to manage this by letting them save face, letting them participate in where they're going next. And those people, trust me at cbs, think that Scott Pelley is great. He's been there, what, like 30 years? They think he deserves some measure of respect. I don't share in that. I'm enjoying watching him twist in the wind. But that's not how they feel inside cbs. So if you have responsibility for managing cbs, you. You need to manage this situation in a way that it stays as relatively smooth and quiet as you can instead of getting your backup that he disrespected you and then issuing your public statement. And then it gets a back and forth, every second of which you're losing market share and respect. So it's a management fucking nightmare. Now back on the subject of whether Scott Pelley should have been there at all. Adam. The answer is no. No. He helped ruin 60 Minutes in CBS. He was no Mike Wallace. He was no Ed Bradley. This guy, I could be here all day. And we actually did this one day. We took up a whole hour showing 60 minutes clips and what they have become. And it's absolutely shameful in a shadow of its former self. But let me just give you this one of Scott Pelley. The audience knows what I'm about to show. Um, it is when he had on the Moms for Liberty founders a great and noble organization and tried to dismiss their concerns about disgusting like graphic sex books and LGBTQ advanced graphic books making their way into elementary school and middle school and of course high school, school, school libraries. Watch parents send their children to school to be educated, not indoctrinated into ideology.
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What ideology are they being indoctrinated into?
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Let's just say children in America cannot read.
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They often dodged questions with talking points. You're being evasive.
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21% of students are reading unto you.
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What ideology are the children being indoctrinated into? What is your fear?
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I think parents fears are realized. They're looking at these books where sexual discussions are happening with their children at younger and younger ages.
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Tiffany. Justice read from sexually explicit books written for older teens but found in a few lower schools. Most people wouldn't want them in a lower school, but in a tactic of outrage politics, Moms for Liberty takes a kernel of truth and concludes these examples are not rare mistakes, but a plot to sexualize children. He's such a dope.
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Adam. A case went up to the US Supreme Court not long after that where it was acknowledged by the Supreme Court of the United States that these books are making their way into young children's school libraries to the point where parents needed to have an opt out option, which the Supreme Court found constitutional on religious grounds. Did Scott Pelley go back and update his reporting to apologize to Moms for Liberty for wrongfully chastising them for making these claims which were acknowledged by the Supreme Court of the United States? Did he acknowledge to his audience that he had misled them? No, he didn't. And so I have zero, zero tolerance for his waxing poetic about the editorial changes coming to 60 Minutes and how they're being. It's so wrong, and he doesn't want it touched. So it's like, there's. To me, there's no one to root for here because he's awful and was. He had no business being the main anchor at a property like 60 Minutes, or at least the old 60 Minutes. And the way that CBS management has handled this has been abhorrent, too. It's been wrong from the start.
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You know, my favorite part about all the explicit material in the elementary school library is when one of the moms tries to read one of the books that's from the library in front of Congress, and they tell her, we don't allow that kind of language here in this house.
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And I'm like, right in front of these adults.
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In front of these. And then average age, you know, 64 and a half. We don't allow this, but we're arguing to put it in the elementary schools. But this whole thing, it's kind of that Scott Wiener thing, too. It's like, I don't know. Why do we have to have this argument at all, all the time? You know, it's like, well, the Trans Story Hour, it's not only for the kids. There's some adults there. It's at a library. Sure. It's like, do we have to keep arguing this insane point that we just don't want kids exposed to graphic things at a young age? Can we just leave it at that, or do we have to just keep arguing about this?
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Yeah. No, we do. Because of 60 Minutes, because of its editorial take, which, let's face it, has been in desperate need of correction for years now. So I actually. I mean, I do applaud the effort to try to right that ship, but there's a right way and a wrong way of doing it just because I said I would tell you what's being said. There was this open letter by this new EP to Scott Pelley, which reads in part as follows. I started this job excited to collaborate and to benefit from the wisdom and experience of the 60 Minutes veterans, with you among them. For that reason, one of the first things I did in my new role was to call you in talk and invite you to dinner. It is a profound disappointment that you rejected that overture and chose Ambush instead. Yesterday, you hijacked my first meeting with staff to disparage me, my qualifications, and my intentions with remarkable incivility and contempt. I welcome a diversity of viewpoints and respectful debate among the team. But this was Nothing of the sort. Yesterday's performative display of hostility enacted in front of the staff instead of in a civil private conversation demonstrated that you have no interest in contributing to. To the future success of the show or approaching my new tenure with a mind open to collaboration and progress. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, this is so defensive. And beneath an executive. You don't. And then he fired him. You don't do that. You say, Dear Mr. Pelly, with the participation of senior management at CBS News, this is to inform you that your services are no longer required. You are terminated, effective immediately. That Nick Bilton is the boss movement. And it was up to your superiors. Because you're not his boss. Just because you're the EP of 60, you're not. You've been there two minutes. He's been there almost 40 years. You're not. But his superiors needed to handle him directly and never should have put these two together without somebody being there. And Barry didn't show. And Scott Pelley clearly had not been managed. And now Barry tries to tell the staff at a morning meeting over there that Scott has been let go. She says, I speak. I know I speak for myself and I hope I speak for everyone here when I say I'm only interested in working in a newsroom that's built on trust and mutual respect. We cannot do our work without it. That foundation was broken on Monday. And despite our attempts to engage with Scott Pelley and find a way back, unfortunately we weren't able to do so, and we had to part ways. We didn't want it to happen, but that's the path he chose. That unfortunate outcome does not discount from the amazing contributions and work he's done for CBS and 60. Now he comes out. I'm saddened to see the transcript of the CBS News morning editorial meeting. Barry Weiss knows what she said is not true. In the meeting on Tuesday in which I was effectively fired, there was no effort of any kind to find a way back. As she said, at no point did anyone in the Tuesday meeting suggest that there could be steps taken by either side that would lead to a resolution. Or Weiss and Tom Chabrowski, that's her number two, were openly hostile from the start. Firing was raised by him in the first 15 seconds. No CBS executive at any time suggested a way back. To say so now is disingenuous, and they know it. In fact, everyone refused to answer my questions. I asked her a number of questions about why she fired the entire senior staff of 60 minutes a few days before and without cause. I'M not answering that question, she said. I asked why she didn't come to the 60 Minutes offices to explain her actions. I'm not answering that question. Why did she fire the executive producer? I'm not answering that question. Why did she fire Cecilia Vega? I'm not answering that question. Why fire Sharon Alfonsi? I'm not answering that question. Throughout the meeting, the CBS executives were abrupt, dismissive and uninterested in dialogue. Suddenly, and to my surprise, Shabowski declared, this conversation's over. Why? I asked. I'm happy to answer your questions. This conversation's over, he repeated, raising his voice and standing to show me the door. I'm happy to keep talking, I added. No constructive dialogue was allowed by the CBS executives at any point. I was stonewalled for about 10 minutes and then for no apparent reason, this conversation's over. I'm pained that the staff of CBS News was misled on Wednesday morning. These executives cannot gain the trust of the staff with lies. This is antithetical to everything we stand for and reveals contempt for what journalists do. I don't know how they get out of this now. I really don't. Well, I. I don't. I don't. I have no love lost for Scott Pelly whatsoever. But the relevant point here is that's not the way the staff inside the building feels. 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I now have my very own channel on Sirius xm. It's called the Megyn Kelly Channel. And it is where you will hear the truth unfilled with no agenda and no apologies. Along with the Megyn Kelly show, you're gonna hear from people like Mark Halperin, link Lauren Maureen Callahan, Emily Drishinski, Jesse Kelly, RealClear Politics, and many more. It's bold. No BS news only on the Megygyn Kelly Channel, Sirius XM111, and on the Sirius XM app. Our friends across the pond are in a mighty struggle, Adam, because they've decided free speech is officially a thing of the past. And so is accountability. The murder of Henry Novak has turned into something beyond one crime. This 18 year old kid on his way home who got stabbed by a man who was Sikh and was carrying a set of knives on him, which is allowed some knives under British law, depending on how long they are. There was a real question about whether the knives he had were legal. And he stabbed Henry. And as Henry lay dying with five stab wounds in him, Vikram Digua, the man who stabbed him, claimed that he was the victim of Henry's alleged racism, of which there is zero proof, zero evidence in the record that Henry did anything or said anything racist, other than the bullshit claims of his murderer. And there's videotape. Henry was videotaping the moments so we would know prior to his murder. The cops show up and instead of getting Henry the help he needed, as he lay there bleeding, they told him he hadn't been stabbed. They didn't call an ambulance right away, and they handcuffed a dying man and told him he was fine. The tape was released yesterday. It's the day before yesterday. It's an outrage. It's actually hard to watch. And so far all we've seen is one of the cops involved, under enormous pressure by the community, was allowed to retire. And then late yesterday, we got word that one had, quote, resigned. No one's been fired, no one's been charged. And by the way, if you retire or resign, you likely still get your pension and all your benefits. No one's been fired and no one has been charged with accessory, with criminally negligent homicide, with anything. We had a legal panel on yesterday that actually saw a number of crimes that they had potentially opened themselves up to. And now there is true, there's outrage over there. There were protests for most of the day yesterday. I'll just give you a flavor of some of the protests and those Speaking out. Here's SAP 22.
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You shouldn't pay your respect for Henry. Your officers assisted in that man's death. The police are getting out, not Michelle, A little bit of police brutality. They're tracking the stuff away over the people's gardens. Here we go. Wow.
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Okay, and now. Okay, so now this is actually an update per the constabulary that's overseeing the relevant police force, they confirmed that only one of the officers involved in the case is resigned. Okay, so the Other one didn't retire. Only one has resigned while the other three are still serving. All of them are being treated as witnesses. The four said the officer who resigned did so at the end of 2025 and not as a result of this incident. Henry was stabbed in December of 2025. So we really have zero accountability. Now they're saying that the police internal investigation, they plan to report back on it within the next three months. Doesn't take that long. Your eyes and ears are really all you need. And there's been a dispute breaking out between the political leadership where Keir Starmer, who said nothing about this murder, nothing. December, January, February, March, April, May, nothing. It wasn't until we finally got a verdict, he didn't even say, I'm so sorry this has happened. You know, I condemn the violence and the crime, whatever, nothing. Now he comes out finally and says something in Henry's memory. And you've got Nigel Farage on the other hand, whose star is on the rise over there in the uk And Starmer goes out and decides to issue a direct attack on Farage, condemning the violence which broke out at this protest in Southampton. We just showed you telling the British public that this is, quote, not the time to rage. Which was a direct response to Nigel Farage, who yesterday issued an emergency address to the nation in which he said, the only way Britain should respond to this killing is with pure cold rage. And that's what we're seeing on the streets right now, Adam, because the British people have had enough of assuming the white man who's dying in front of the cops very eyes must be the perpetrator and bad guy because he's white. And the brown man standing with knives and claiming he was the victim of racism might in fact be the criminal who caused this whole thing and just took a man's life who you're watching die before your very eyes.
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All right, well, lots of thoughts. Two progressive people, Democrats. If you said this guy threw a racial slur at that black man, he dropped an N bomb, so the black man stabbed him, Their thought on that was, well, that guy should have never said anything. I mean, they actually think that it's okay to perpetrate violence upon somebody if somebody said something that was racially offensive to that group. So they're sort of down with the cause that way, which is a weird thing. Like they'll, They'll. They'll do it all the time. And I'll go, you understand, no matter what somebody says, that doesn't justify stabbing them, punching them, pushing Them onto train tracks, whatever it is. Like, they look at that as a legitimate alibi. Like, yeah, I stabbed the guy. He called me something I didn't like. So. And most. A lot of white progressives will side with the person of color in that case. Also, this isn't so different than what goes on in sanctuary cities. You know, there's always some poor person, some citizen who gets stabbed or shot or beaten by somebody who probably who's illegal, who shouldn't be in this country. And then, of course, the politicians have to side with the person they're protecting because they're in a sanctuary city. So there's an interesting relationship. The news outlets are progressive, so they have to defend these people, and then the politicians are the ones who are defending them and bringing them into their cities so they can't apologize or say anything about it. So if ICE shoots a white person, they have to do nonstop, endless coverage on the white man or woman that I shot. But if a black guy stabs a white kid, they. They go radio silent on it. Now, Europe is like a little foreshadowing of what we're asking for here. In a lot of our major blue cities, you guys are letting in a bunch of people from bad cultures who let their knives do their talking. You've decided to treat them as victims. They catch, whether it's Somalia, Somalis in Minnesota, or this guy they figured out real fast, play the race card, and you'll be protected by these politicians. So we're importing this into our country as well. It doesn't end good because these people come from countries that are failures, because they're flawed, because their culture is a mess. And then we bring a bunch of them, and we put them in any given city, and then they metastasize, and they start breaking off, and they take over the cities. And then, of course, the city is ruined, just like their country is ruined.
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Mm. I think this is about. This is like a. We're at a boiling point from how many years now of demonizing white men?
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Yes, that's what.
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That's what's causing the rage on the streets. That's why Nigel Farage says this is a moment for rage. The white man was innocent. He didn't say anything racist. And to your point, even if he had, it wouldn't justify his murder. It's almost irrelevant. But he didn't. There was a tape from his own phone. If. Believe me, if they had Henry Novak saying anything racist, we'd know he didn't. He ran into a bad man. Whose skin happened to be brown and who was seek and it was covered in knives. And he stabbed Henry Novak. I don't know why. To this moment I have no idea why he did it, but he did it. He wasn't sorry. He didn't tell the cops when he knew they were confused about whether Henry was in fact dying. He just let him die, which is why he's now going to go to prison. His mother covered up the crime and hid the murder weapon. She's also been found guilty. And the British populace understands that the police and the authorities involved in this case would be reacting very differently if the dead man who was ignored as he suffered to death in handcuffs were black or brown and the man standing over him with a bloody knife were white. They know. They and the fact that they've done nothing to these cops. And now we're saying, well, in three months we'll have a ruling for what? How does it take three months? It could take three days to investigate this. You know exactly who is involved. The police behavior is all on body cam. We've seen it. What do you need to investigate? You know exactly what happened here. So it's an outrage. And the and the British populace is sick of this shit, Adam. They didn't investigate the Muslim rape gangs. They didn't care that these young white girls were being brutalized in the most awful, unspeakable ways possible. They didn't care about that. They don't care about this. They've demonized white men for over a decade now. They've had it. They've had it. They proceed this way at their peril. And by the way, not for nothing, but Keir Starmer and all the others in power right now all took a knee after George Floyd made it into a huge thing immediately. How outrage Wait for a three month investigation or a trial. Trust me, they got down on the knee immediately and started condemning racism and so on. So like all these protestations of like there's a process, let it play out are lies?
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Yes. Well, listen, we just lived through four years of dopey Joe Biden saying white supremacy was the biggest problem this country faced. And then his FBI director would get up there and say the same thing. We're living it as well. And so there's a symbiotic relationship between the politicians and the press. The politicians lay this stuff out like, you know, less crime is committed by our immigrant neighbors and everything. And then all the newspapers and outlets and 60 minutes and all the other woke news agencies then also echo that and so then if there is a situation like this, they all circle the wagons and instead of doing their job, they try to protect themselves. So the politicians are trying to protect themselves and the news outlets are trying to protect themselves for spreading the lie initially. And then it's a two parter. You have to sweep under the rug. Anytime there's a situation where black kills a white, and then if there's a situation where white kills a black, no matter what the circumstances are, even if it's self defense, you have to build that up. So it's kind of a seesaw. You have to depress one side of the story and then you have to search endlessly for anything that. Oh, there's a, you know, there's a crazy story about five, six years ago in Oakland. A black man hung hoops on a tree at the park so he could exercise in the park. And the white female mayor of Oakland at the time announced that this was a hate crime. And the black guy said, no, no, it's not a hate crime. I put those hoops up and I hang off of those hoops and that's how I work out at the park. And she said, I'm calling in the DOJ and we're gonna investigate this as a hate crime. And the guy said, why do you have to investigate it? I already told you. And she said, what? You can't make assumptions. It's a crazy story. Your audience needs to look it up. It's about five years ago. It's when Oakland, it was right when Oakland was bottoming out because you had an in and out franchise that was moving. CBS franchises were closing, the A's were moving out. All your, The Raiders move out, all this. And she wants this special, a special unit to investigate a hate crime over workout apparatus at a park. So they have to find it wherever they can find it. And then they have to sweep it under the rug when it actually does happen. And it happens a lot. And know this insanity of like these immigrants commit less crime. Who started that and who believes it now?
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Yeah, yeah. The messaging now coming out. I told you what Keir Starmer is saying. It's just, I mean, it's. He doesn't understand how angry people are. He doesn't understand why they're so angry. He truly is part of the problem. He really, he doesn't get it. He's like a Nancy Pelosi type, right? A kneeler, you know, like self flagellating. And it's just not right for the moment. He's not tapping in like Nigel Farage is getting it. And he feels, and it's authentic, that they're. They're beyond being pacified, that they're very angry and they want to see that you feel it too. And Keir Starmer doesn't. He doesn't feel this the way he felt George Floyd. That's why he's not able to sell it. And here's the home secretary in the uk, Shabana Mahmoud. By the way, this person spoke out right away after George Floyd. This is what this person said after George Floyd. Many constituents have been in touch with me regarding protests across the USA after the murder of George Floyd. I share their anger at this unspeakable outrage. Hashtag Black lives Matter. See if you can detect a switch in tone in the latest messaging from Mahmoud. His murder at the hands of Vikram Digva was a horrifying act. Falsely accusing him of racism. It was an evil act. Let's let me also be clear about one other thing. A dangerous undercurrent that I have seen in the reaction to this awful crime. Threats against police officers are utterly unacceptable. Misinformation and inflammatory commentary is making a dreadful situation even worse. Yeah, the language police.
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Yes.
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Would like to chastise the outraged people about, you know, stay within the lines. Okay. I don't. I don't remember this woman coming out and saying, maybe don't burn your city down. Minnesota's citizens in Minneapolis maybe, like, right. She doesn't care. She doesn't actually care about inflammatory rhetoric at all. Only when it's on an issue that's near and dear to her heart, in which case we have to be word policed about our outrage over letting the white guy die from his stab wounds. That then she's got to step in and remind us of the decorum responsibilities.
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By the way, you know, you really could use George Floyd answer to J6 and maybe Covid origins to figure out how insane people are. Like, George Floyd was a junkie who OD'd on fentanyl and was a career criminal. And no other culture would embrace this guy. Now, white people don't embrace him either. They're just pretending to. But black people, this is your hero. That'd be like me going, you know who I love? Joey Buttafuoco. That guy's Italian. I'm Italian. If you watch what you say about Joey Buttafuoco, like, he's a dope. He's a criminal. That's insane. You should get as much distance as you possibly can from George Floyd, whether you're in the black community, or you're in the white community and you're kissing the ass of the black community who's turning George Floyd into a deity. That's insane. And especially that it made it across the pond and that you guys would take knees for this guy. It's totally and utterly insane to worship at the altar of George Floyd. And by the way, if you think J6 was a legitimate insurrection, you're nuts as well, and lying. And if you think Covid came from a wet market and not a lab, then you're nuts in line, too. It's three questions. We can just. If you answer those three questions, I can figure out whether to believe you or not on anything.
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Yeah, that's so true. Whether you're a sane, honest person.
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Right.
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Well, is this person sane and honest? I give you Jill Biden. Yes. We're back to Jill Biden, who's still making the rounds on her View, on her book. She went on the View and said. Said the following. In Sat 13, he'd given so much of himself, and to see you even saying, like, I thought he was having a medical episode.
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I was concerned.
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Was there any part of you that went into protection mode of like, joe, you can't keep doing this. Like, this is. They're taking so much from you. The doctors told me he was fine. I'm not a doctor. I mean, I am a doctor. Yes, you are. Unbelievable.
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Great.
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Unbelievable. She admits it, finally. We know. Oh, we know,
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all right. So everyone knew. Remember they were doing those cheap fakes? Remember they were trying to sell those shots of Joe Biden drifting off at the Juneteenth Jamboree on the lawn or wherever he was doing with the thousand yard stare? And they were going. They were going to. That's a cheap fake. That's a cheap fake. And I was like, I didn't understand what that means. And they're like, well, it's edited. It's a piece of videotape, but it's edited. It's not the whole tape. And somebody was trying to pass that bullshit off on me here in my studio. And I said, you know the videotape of P. Diddy kicking his girlfriend in the hall of the hotel by the elevator? And they go, yeah. I go, that's an edited piece of tape. It's not the whole. The whole. The whole tape is 700 hours long. That's just the clip where he kicked her by. That's a clip of him doing that in a surveillance tape that's on a loop 24 7. Are you suggesting we needed to watch the entire year's worth of tape. Or can we just watch a cut of him kicking her ass for 45 seconds? Because that's what we're looking at with Joe Biden, this insanity. I was on Bill Maher show years, you know, I don't know, it was like four or five years ago or something like that. And they said, is Joe Biden going to run for a second term? Do you think he's going to run? And I said, run? He can't walk. And everyone looked at me and I was like, you guys don't see what's going on with this guy. It's super apparent to everybody, and it now is super apparent that you are all lying or to cover for him. And the fact that you're trying to wordsmith your way around this is insulting. It really is. She's a witch, by the way.
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She's insulting our intelligence. Yes, she's a bitch, and here's further evidence of it. So not only does she push this bullshit on us and expect us to swallow it, but she's out there once again by omission, taking shots at her own granddaughter. Hunter Biden has a daughter by the name of Navy. We've interviewed her mother here on this program. That's hurtful to see, you know, a matriarch of a family who. Who is supposed to bring a family together, purposely exclude someone part of that family, part of that. Part of that bloodline. And that's something that someday my daughter will read and my daughter will see. It breaks my heart to know that it will break hers to read and see the things that she's going to see about being excluded. And she's going to wonder, you know, why. All I can do is, you know, be there for her when. When she does, when she is old enough to understand these things. I have to tell her, you know, I can't. Excuse me. I can't tell you why I can't explain other people's behavior for you. All I can say is, you know that. I'm sorry. Is it true that when Jill Biden hung the White House stockings for the six grandchildren, not the seven, excluding Navy, that she also had stockings up there for the family pets, for the dogs? I actually did hear that. And so what does Jill Biden do on the view this sot? 18. Hunter's doing well. Hunter is.
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Oh, my gosh, Hunter is doing so great.
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And he's sober.
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He has a beautiful child, I mean, who's named Bo. He named his son after Bo and Bo named his son after Hunter, so.
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Yeah, just shows the bond. Yeah. Once again, no mention of her granddaughter, who's been acknowledged Navy, Biden, which is so hurtful. I'm sorry. Like, I'm sorry your son had a baby out of wedlock. You know, stepson, Whatever. Stop punishing the little girl by erasing her from current history. I mean, she won't acknowledge this child. It's diabolical.
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B
Well, look, as we've learned, everything gets put through the prism of politics, right? I mean, everything is just. Someone's running all the time. And we got Graham Platner over there, and they're all stumping for the guy with the Nazi tattoo with all the DMs to young people or young women or whatever. Whatever is going on. So they will pass everything through the prism of the next election. And that's all she does. Even if she's not running, Even if her husband's not running. Could somebody find out who the big guy was? Could somebody ask her who the big guy was that Hunter was keeping 10% for? That question has never been uttered on any interview. At 10,000 interviews, no one said, who's the big guy? Hunter. Everyone else's name is on that list. Their full name. And then there's the big guy. Who is the big guy? Tell us who that guy is.
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They don't care. They won't ask. They. They will never do the stories that are bad for their side. I would submit to the audience. That's one of the things that makes this show different from most where we will. We will criticize both sides. When the president does something we don't like, we will say so. We may agree or disagree, but he's not immune from criticism. But if you're a leftist, that's not the rule. That's not how you roll. Adam Carolla, a pleasure. Good luck. Good luck to you as we await to see whether Spencer Pratt and Steve Hilton pull this off. We're rooting for them and you. And we're back tomorrow with Maureen Callahan. Thanks for listening to the Megyn Kelly Show. No bs, no agenda, and no fear. So good, so good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom Rack stores now and up to 60% off. Stock up and save on the brands you love, like Vince, Sam, Edelman, Frame and Free People. Join the NordicLub to unlock exclusive discounts. Shop new arrivals first and more. Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free. Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack.