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Redditor Helps Solve Brown U. Shooting Case, Tapper's Trump Health Sham, and Leftist Bullying, with Buck Sexton and Payton McNabb | Ep. 1217
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Megyn Kelly is joined by Buck Sexton, co-host of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, to talk about the Brown U. and MIT alleged shooter found dead, the awkward self-congratulatory press conference after the culprit was found dead, how a Reddit poster helped solve the Brown U. shooting, the tools like AI getting better and helping crowdsource crime-solving, why privacy is a thing of the past, Jake Tapper's ridiculous CNN segment focused on Trump's health, leftist nonsense disguised as objective news, terrible Democratic and GOP messaging on the economy, some on the left and right who are more interested in fighting and petty social media squabbles than uniting, the viral report on how DEI negatively affected white millennial men, why the Trump administration is now trying to help white men sue for discrimination, and more. Payton McNabb, "Independent Women" ambassador, joins to discuss the boy who injured her in a girl's volleyball game playing the victim, never-seen TikTok videos...
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Megyn Kelly
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Buck Sexton
Tonight, our Providence neighbors can finally breathe a little easier. We all worked well together to be able to identify this suspect. I'm extremely proud of this department and actually the officers, the detectives. It was all about groundwork, public assistance, interviews of individuals and good old fashioned policing. And I will say that everybody brought a certain expertise to the table. You can feel like you're chasing leads and they don't work out, but the team keeps going. But when you do crack it, you crack it.
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Megyn Kelly
Okay. Joining me now to react to this and so much more is Buck Sexton, co host of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. If you can make one Holiday Wish Would you wish to be free from your credit card and other debt? Well, here's why. Now is the time to make a move. This time of year, credit card and loan companies close out their books. They can clean up past due accounts and they sell or write off debt. That means if you have credit card debt and unpaid bills, lenders may be more open to negotiating and settling your account before year end. You may actually have leverage and Done With Debt knows how to use this to your advantage. They monitor lender trends and understand the year end pressure on creditors and they use that timing to negotiate hard on your behalf. Now is the time to get out from under crushing debt and interest payments without bankruptcy or new loans. Done With Debt goes to work for you Month one with one clear goal to reduce your total debt and leave you with more money every month. Get started now. Chat for free with a Done with debt specialist@donewithdebt.com donewithdebt.com that's donewithdebt.com Buck, welcome back. What do you make of the apprehension of the suspect who was dead, but they did find him. We don't know when he killed himself. Could have been as they closed in, could have been earlier. Point is he's dead and he's not going to hurt any other people. But the, I mean the back padding by the Keystone Cop crew was a bit much.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. I'll be honest with you Megan. I think that this has become a little bit of a trend and it needs to stop. And I speak with some background in this because I was at the NYPD Intelligence Division doing high profile counterterrorism investigations, including the Times Square bombing that Faisal Shahzad carried out. And so I remember getting called in on the weekend because the bombing happened and we had a task force fb, all these other agencies and we had to find this guy. We got him. We got him at the airport actually on a plane on his way to Pakistan. So that was a near miss. And I think everybody took a moment to say, oh wow, we got to move a little faster next time to get an individual. There wasn't a press conference called for everybody to high five each other in law enforcement. And I think that this is something that everyone who's observing these press conferences now because they are major news events, they shouldn't be used as PR campaigns for a department, for a mayor, for a governor, for any of the above. They didn't do for the FBI or the FBI. Yeah, the FBI did this too recently and I called it out on My radio show, Megan, it was like. It was, you know, we're so great. We're doing amazing work. You don't need to tell us.
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Megyn Kelly
A little uncomfortable.
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Buck Sexton
It was weird. It was weird. It needs to stop. And I think that this unfortunately, maybe is a byproduct also of, like, the social media era, where people, you know, want to be able to take a bow publicly. But there's no need. There's no need for what we saw in Providence, Rhode island, here. I mean, this was way too congratulatory. I mean, people were shot, people were killed, and they didn't get this guy, really. I mean, he killed himself. So they need to slow their roll a little bit and focus on good police work next time. And also, don't tell us to avoid misinformation online. That has a very Orwellian tone to it. Like, you gotta be careful about all the misinformation. No, we don't go find the shooter.
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Megyn Kelly
No, we were getting lectured to. Even last night, Christina Pushaw Paxson, who is the president of Brown University, was out there sending an email to people being like, you know, it was just very unfortunate, the misinformation that went around about, you know, potential people involved in this when looking at their social media. And it was like she was kind of over the top in her chastising. It was like, you know what? You know what actually solved the case? Social media solved the case? Some guy who saw the suspect was posting what he saw to Reddit and, like, in great detail. And the Redditors encouraged him to go to the police, which he then did. And this guy proved to be, it looks like we believe, the critical force that led to this guy's identification and not arrest, but murder.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, suicide, from what I understand. Megan. And there's still details coming in, but it seems that this guy who committed this mass murder and suicide took some security steps as well to make this more difficult. And I think that with law enforcement, they have some incredible tools, again, tools that I actually used in a prior life myself. Things like people will say, well, why can't they just ping a cell phone? Well, they can, but this guy apparently didn't take his cell phone with him for the shootings. You know, why can't they.
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Megyn Kelly
Or had. Or they're saying he may have had foreign SIM card.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. Or he changed out his SIM card. But I mean, he didn't. He didn't bring, like, his. This is who I am. This is my name, cell phone with me. Even if you ping phones, you're pinging in an area so there could, I mean, a place like Brown University, there's going to be, I don't know, a couple thousand people that are probably pinging off that tower. So it can whittle things down. But it doesn't mean that you have the so called smoking gun. Right away this guy took some steps. I mean, it seems like this is some kind of personal grudge slash psychosis, but you know, we'll find out more clearly. The I think it's more than a coincidence that he studied with this guy at a Portuguese university. I don't think that's a leap. So he knew, he knew that guy. But I think that law enforcement here got caught flat footed because the initial things that they go to in this situation, they right away they go to the surveillance footage, right away they go to cell phones. If somebody is good enough at covering their tracks on those fronts, then it's old fashioned police work and Reddit might move a lot faster on that than some of these cops can. That's just the truth.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah. Here's what we know and just a word of caution to the audience. It's not totally clear how it all went down, not surprisingly, given the law enforcement we're dealing with, but we're gleaning the following. This actually does come from the supporting arrest affidavit that there was a tip received on Tuesday, December 16, does not give a date for when the Reddit post was put up on Reddit. But three days after the deadly shooting at Brown, officers received an anonymous tip that stuck out from a flood of information. It directed the authorities to a post on Reddit, quote, I'm being dead serious. The police need to look into a gray Nissan with Florida plates, possibly a rental. That was the car he was driving. It was parked in front of the little shack behind the Rhode Island Historical Society on the Cook side street. So Cook street side. I know because he used his key fob to open the car, approached it, and then something prompted him to back away. When he backed away, he relocked the car. I found that odd. So when he circled the block, I approached the car and that is when I saw the Florida plates. He was parked in the section between the gate of the Rhode Island Historical Society and the corner of Cook and George Street. Now, based on that post, the police say they expanded their video search. You know, looking at people's cameras to the Rhode Island Historical Society area, investigators located a gray blue Nissan sedan. Police. Police then released still images of the then unknown person later identified as John, who interacted with the suspect Approximately at approximately 2:16pm on December 13. And then here's another one, Wednesday, December 17, the Reddit poster approached the cops on the street near Brown. And by the way, it looks like they did not go find John after he posted that tip. Like, I'm not sure what they did, to be honest with you, after they saw that Reddit tip, they're kind of suggesting that they took it seriously. Okay, then they say a day after the Reddit post was made, the writer approached law enforcement officials and told them about his encounter with a suspicious man in Brown University's Barrison Holly building. The tipster, whom the police referred to only as John, said he had encountered the suspect inside a bathroom on the ground floor of the building between 1:45pm and 2pm around two hours before the first shots were reported. John said the suspect's clothing was inappropriate for the weather and they had made eye contact. John told the police he followed the man after he left the building to a Nissan vehicle with a Florida plate. But instead of entering the vehicle, the suspect started walking around the block with John behind him. So he sounds like the same person, john said. It was like a game of cat and mouse. At one point, the two men spoke. According to the affidavit, John asked the suspect, your car's back there. Why are you circling the block? To which the suspect responded, why are you harassing me? John went his own way. Soon after that, when the police showed John images of the suspect's car from safety cameras, he said, that might be it and here's the last one buck. Per the affidavit Monday sorry. Morning of Wednesday, December 17th, a separate university employee, a Brown University faculty member, had also described a suspicious vehicle in the same neighborhood, a gray sedan with Florida plates on Thursday, December 11 at 9:15am it did not take long for investigators to find that the car was from an Alamo rental location in downtown Boston. And from the rental agreement, they got a name, Claudio Manuel Neves Valente. So that's how they caught him. There were things happening on the Boston entune around the MIT professor, but it was this Reddit guy. It seems like it was this Reddit, this guy who posted on Reddit named John, who Jesse Waters had a guest last night was reporting the they believe is a former Brown student who is now homeless. Unconfirmed, but that was reported both online and on Fox last night.
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Buck Sexton
Well, yeah, there's crowdsourcing has been around for a while and I think it's getting more and More sophisticated because keep in mind the tools that are available to the general public now when you start adding in AI. I use AI now just as a side note all the time. And I'm amazed at what it can do. I was putting together a gun.
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Megyn Kelly
Which one do you use?
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Buck Sexton
Oh, I use Grok exclusively. Oh yeah, I'm a grammar make it. I'm a Grok guy. So yeah, I'm an investor in Grok. I love Grok. So anyway, I actually was putting together a gun safe yesterday and I was able to just take a photo of the safe from a distance and say, how do I do all these things and how do I program everything? And it's better than any manual. I mean, it's incredible what it can do. I bring this up in the context of this investigation because now you can work with pretty sophisticated tools. If you have still images, if you have basic geolocation data, I mean, you can start to do some, some high level, certainly much more high level than what I've even been capable by law enforcement 10, 15 years ago. So this is, this is catching up really quickly. And this is, I think changing the world all around us in a whole, in a whole range of ways. But the, the ability now to, I mean, think about this. How far are we from facial recognition being something now? I know this guy, I think his face was covered, but just they're already.
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Megyn Kelly
Using that in some police departments across.
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Buck Sexton
The country and police departments, they are, I mean, people being able to run programs at home. You know, this is, I mean, the tech is getting so widespread that what we used to think of as a law enforcement exclusive tool I think is going to be something that you're seeing in the hands of these online sleuths. And look, I mean, now this was, this is a whole other discussion, but there was a whole effort, as we all know, online. The FBI not only had 30% of them weaponized against, under Biden, against the J6 protesters, but there was a big online effort to track all those people down too. So the public has become mobilized in a whole range of ways to be able to help law enforcement for good and for ill, depending on the situation. But that's what's going on.
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Megyn Kelly
It's very creepy. We had somebody on the show, she had written a book on this and she was talking about how they've got these glasses already not available for purchase yet, but these glasses that you could put on and you could walk into a bar and let's say I see you, but I don't know, you at this point, and I go over and I try to hit on you, Buck Sexton. And you're like, get out of here, old lady. I'm married. I'm a happily married man. But now I'm like, I'm pissed that who is that cocky former CIA type. I'm gonna get him. And I tap my glasses and based on facial recognition, not only do they tell me it's Buck Sexton, they tell me where you live, they tell me where you went to school, they tell me all this identifying personal information about you, which is just a very effed up way to live.
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Buck Sexton
Privacy is essentially going to be a thing of the past. I mean, we already have microphones that we. Active microphones that we carry all throughout our homes all the time. I mean, yes, you and I, Meghan, make a living by doing media. So there's cameras and, and you know, high end audio equipment in certain rooms, but people are carrying around open mics all the time. We've all had this thing of you start talking about some subject and then you get an ad about it on your phone served to you and you're on Google or whatever it is. This is real, this is all around us. And as the technology is going to. This is a bit like Moore's Law with computing power. And the technology that you have access to from AI is going to continue to get more and more sophisticated such that you're going to have people who, the second that they release anything about a major incident of public, whether it's a mass shooting or, you know, any, any major incident of public interest, the entire Internet is going to be able to use these different. Now there, I understand there's problems with this too. How do you verify, who do you trust? How do you know? But the, the data and the access to analysis of that data that everyone's gonna have is we are in a brave new world that is changing. And the fact, I mean, you just read that whole, that whole Reddit thread that was more sophisticated than most of the police reports that I used to read when I was in the intel division. I mean, that was more detailed.
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Megyn Kelly
It was more, this guy, if this really is a homeless guy, I mean, this is a hero. This guy John is a hero. He posted something this morning saying I'm not gonna be posting really anything else. I might, he said, I might like up comments, like positive comments, things that I like online, but that's all I'm going to do. But we got to know more about John. I wanted to mention something about. You mentioned the Cameras, which will be, you know, which we're kind of used to being everywhere. That was a problem in this case. Why weren't they everywhere inside of this building? This was a big bone of contention last night, and there was a kind of suggestion by the officials that there were some cameras inside the building where the shooting took place at Brown University, but that whatever cameras there were did not capture what happened in this classroom or the guy's ingress or egress from the. From the building. Obviously, that's true. Otherwise they would have shown us his pictures on day one. So then there was a question about why. Why didn't we have more cameras? Why? Then there was a question about whether many of them had been turned off at the behest of the pro Palestinian activists on campus, of which there are many at Brown University. And there's been more and more reporting that that actually did happen. Well, there was an exchange with a reporter and Christina Halpax, and again, she's the president of Brown about the lack of video to help solve this murder. And listen to this exchange. SOP 5.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, Dan. President Paxton. Dan Jay from NBC 10. I want to go back to the question I asked you Saturday night when I first arrived on the scene. There were no cameras in this building. And law enforcement, some that are standing up behind you, have said if Brown had cameras in that part of the building, we would have gotten this guy and it may have stopped this swirling action. Can you answer that question for me?
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Peyton McNabb
Well, I don't think we have said.
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Buck Sexton
The locations of cameras at.
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Megyn Kelly
At Brown.
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Buck Sexton
We have cameras because why would they take it from a rental car agency?
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Peyton McNabb
We have 1200 cameras at Brown, but.
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Buck Sexton
Not in that building.
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Peyton McNabb
We have some in that building.
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Buck Sexton
It's a large complex.
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Megyn Kelly
And I think what you would see.
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Buck Sexton
Is the video evidence in this case.
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Peyton McNabb
From my perspective, I'm taught a law.
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Buck Sexton
Enforcement agent has been incredibly helpful. The moving of the person around the neighborhood. Those video images, they help crack this case case. So I think video was important. Video played a big role in this case. The neighbors video, the rental car video, but not the video from the building that he walked in freely, both before when he got in the confrontation and when he came back in, decided to kill people. You didn't have cameras in that building. Just say it so we could get this over. And my. My next question is, will you put cameras. Follow up, will you put the cameras in the building? Will it be more cameras in that building? You know, I think we need to look back. We'll look at everything that is done.
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Peyton McNabb
But I do not think a lack.
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Megyn Kelly
Of cameras in that building, it had anything to do with what happened there. No one suggests it caused it. Although who knows, maybe he did scope out what areas didn't have cameras beforehand, but it led. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm not blaming the MIT professor's murder on her, but it did indirectly lead to another life being caused because if we had had that guy on came camera, who knows how quickly they could have caught him. Buck. And by the way, that reporter's name is dan, Jenny from NBC 10. Good for you, Dan.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, well, he's putting Janet Reno in a tough spot up there or whatever it is from Brown University. She, she. There's no good answer for what it is that, that that is being asked because clearly they had, you know, they had not really thought through this as a meaningful security measure for, for this facility and a place like Brown University. I mean, you know this Megan, I, I've been putting this out on radio for a few days. I had a family member, an aunt who went there. It is the most left wing Ivy League school and it is among the most left wing of all schools. It just has and it's always had that reputation, doesn't they don't get grades there. Now what does that have to do with this investigation? Right. I'm not just taking cheap shots at the communists. Well, maybe I'm taking cheap shots at the communists. But what it has to do with the security procedures here is that this is a place that generally lives in a fantasy land of bad things don't happen. We'll never going to have to really deal with law enforcement. We don't have to think about, you know, the worst thing that Brown University thinks they're going to have to deal with in a day to day sense is somebody using the wrong preferred pronouns. Like this is not a place that is taking seriously the security, the physical safety and security of its students in a way that I think it should. I mean just based on the fact that they don't even have good answers here for. Yeah, why do you not have a camera? Now they could say it's an old building and we got cameras in a lot of places. All right, but you know, who's in charge of security on this campus? I mean who's actually making sure that people are safe? And also where was the armed response to this as well? This guy was able to get out of there very easily, very quickly. I also like to point out to everyone he would know that Brown completely bans anybody from being able to conceal Kerry on that campus. So this guy who now it seems pretty clear I think, right. It's like a planned out grudge mass shooter. I mean he shot a whole lot of people. So I'm sure there's just some level of psychosis that's tied into this. But seems like he was, he was, you know, pissed off at people for some reason or a number of people. But he would know that the Brown University police. I'm sure there's a whole thing about how we can't have too many armed cops. You know, that scares people. Police having weapons is frightening. We're gonna have like violence interrupters first and foremost with the. We had some of this at my school Amherst, by the way. You know, it's like, oh, if you call, we don't want the cops to actually arrive for anything. Even if there's a huge fight and people are getting stabbed because people might get pepper sprayed and there could be, you know, diversity could suffer depending on the situation. There's all kinds of things, right?
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Megyn Kelly
So no, that police, sorry, the mayor of Providence who just embarrassed himself throughout this process, even with the shooter still on the loose less than 48 hours after 11 kids were shot at Brown University was saying this. Okay. This is hours before the MIT professor would be shot dead in his apartment vestibule. Listen to SAT 2. This is Monday on CNN.
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Buck Sexton
Explain this notion that appears to be in conflict. There's a killer on the loose and a manhunt underway. So how can that be the case when you say there is? Why are you confident there is no threat to public safety? The call came in for the shooting at 4:05pm on Saturday. It's Monday morning, 10:00am Eastern and there has not been a single credible or specific threat that we've received since that time. And so just because of those facts, that's why we believe it is safe and appropriate for residents in Providence to be sending their kids to school today and to be out in the community there. There has been no follow up threat.
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Megyn Kelly
Oh my God. He literally said there's been. There is no threat to public safety. On Saturday, Saturday after the shooting, he said people may want to cancel their plans, but I don't feel it's necessary. And we haven't received any additional credible information that there's an ongoing threat. The students bodies were barely cold at that point. And he's saying there's no on that is a liberal mania on how crime is just not a thing. You're immediately safe because the shooting Event is over. Go about your lives, folks who live in Providence. Oh, and vote for me.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, of course. Well, I think he took the wrong lesson from the mayor in jaws, who's like, the beaches will be open this weekend. It's like, well, there's still a shark out there, so maybe think a little, a little harder about that mayor. Yeah, I mean, Jaws, Jaws is the best. That thing really holds up. But this, this guy. Look, there's, there was a lot of incompetence here. This is something to be, to be fair, when you're dealing with these smaller. Whether it's law enforcement, first of all, the Brown University administration, I don't think that they could figure out how to open a paper bag. I mean, I just feel these institutions have been so absolutely top to bottom overtaken by the worst kinds of mediocrity and delusional thinking. And I mean, from the administrative side, never mind the academics and the students. So that's not a surprise at all. And a place like the Providence, Rhode Island Police Department, you know, I mean, the guy who's the chief of police also, I just know if you're going to be doing a press conference, it was not that easy to understand him, which is, is something that I don't think.
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Megyn Kelly
He's been here for 30 years.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
What's up with like, hello?
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Buck Sexton
What? What's up? I don't know, like, you know, you can't kind of figure it out a little more. I feel like we're allowed to at some point say, you know, if you're going to be in that public facing role, you shouldn't, you shouldn't, you should want to not sound like you got here a year ago. And that is, and it shouldn't be.
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Megyn Kelly
So hard for us to understand.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, it's a public safety issue. I mean, you're sitting here, there's a reason they have people that are doing all the sign language and stuff. It's so everybody can understand. And I found myself with the Providence chief of police going, wait, what did he, what was that he said? And that's just not.
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Megyn Kelly
I know, me too.
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Buck Sexton
Not a good.
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Megyn Kelly
At least they got rid of the crazy female signer who was just so obnoxious and desperate to call attention to herself. The guy who was there yesterday, the bald man was better.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. No, the female sign lady who was like doing crazy, like, interpretive dances over here.
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Megyn Kelly
Look at me, I'm a star. Is my big moment she made. She reminded me of that one sign language lady who turned out to be Fake. Remember, she wasn't actually signing.
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Buck Sexton
I kind of missed her, to be honest. It was pretty amazing. But I hear you, like, if we're being serious here. Yeah, of course. It's best not to have her doing all the stuff.
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Megyn Kelly
It's a distraction. Okay. I gotta fire through a few more things while we're together because we have a shorter show today. Two nights ago, President Trump giving remarks from the White House on his. What he says is our hot. Our country's hot again.
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Buck Sexton
It's hot.
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Megyn Kelly
Mentioning the economy. Inflation indeed has gone down. He got a very favorable report yesterday morning, way better than analysts had expected. And announcing that he was going to provide checks worth $1700 in 1776 is the number to our military personnel. It turned out that that was some sort of a housing voucher that people got. But in any event, he chipped almost $2,000 off of bills they owed. And this is where Jake Tapper on CNN went with it. Okay, I just happened to be in the very fortunate position of seeing this and I couldn't believe what I was watching, but here it is in SOT9.
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Buck Sexton
That kind of manic delivery was, was very, very disturbing, very pressure, very pressurized speech. And as the address went on, his, his cadence of his remarks became quicker. And we've never seen the President, you know, like that. He seemed almost frantic and it was, it was disturbing to watch. Earlier today, and this is not the first time this has happened, the President appeared to be struggling to keep his eyes open during a public White House event in the Oval Office earlier today. If that worries you, what's your take on that? He's done this several times now in the last few weeks. He's fallen asleep in a crowded Oval Office and he's also fallen asleep at Cabinet meetings. And that's what's called increased daytime somnolence. Sometimes people with sleep apnea, people who wake up many times during the night and don't get restorative sleep, he has the chronic bruise, he had swollen ankles, he's had these mysterious scans. I think all of this raises consider, you know, realistic concerns about the health of the President. And it would be great if the White House was a little bit more forthcoming about, about that. I can't be the only person who had concerns after watching him last night. You weren't. Oh, Tapper. Oh, that's awesome. Oh, man.
- [32:13]
Megyn Kelly
Can you believe.
- [32:16]
Buck Sexton
Look, honestly, there's a part of me that both, I find Jake at CNN both deeply amusing and at this point, a little bit sad. He is reminiscent as the serious journalist just asking questions of the imperial Japanese soldiers found after World War II had ended. I think one guy lasted 29 years in the jungles of the Philippines, ignoring the leaflets and refusing to accept that the war was over. And then finally someone showed up who had been his commanding officer. And I think he was willing to put down his arms. Like, Jake is the lost imperial Japanese soldier of cnn. Like, he's still. He's still keeping this whole thing going. Like, I'm just here doing the journalism. It's like, we all know what CNN is, buddy.
- [32:59]
Megyn Kelly
Just like I did.
- [33:00]
Buck Sexton
Just like I did.
- [33:00]
Megyn Kelly
Just like I've been doing. I've done this for every president. Speaking so transparent.
- [33:05]
Buck Sexton
Oh, man. Speaking truth to power. It's hilarious.
- [33:07]
Megyn Kelly
Right?
- [33:08]
Buck Sexton
This is also the gu. As you well know. And by the way.
- [33:10]
Megyn Kelly
And look, look, look, look what they're picking up on, Buck. He spoke fast.
- [33:15]
Buck Sexton
I know he.
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Megyn Kelly
That one time he spoke fast, so he must have some sort of a brain disorder. This is so pathetic, and it's so obvious. Like, at least you'd love to give him points for at least being clever. You can't. It's just so on the nose. Nobody, like, I guess this is leftist sweet nothings that he thinks his audience wants now, and he thinks he's got the credibility to do it since he wrote the book. He literally wrote the book, Buck, on Joe Biden's poor mental health.
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Buck Sexton
I have to give you credit, actually. I don't know if we've. We've addressed this on. On your show again, but I came on before you interviewed Jake and I was like, meghan, you know, you're just. You're very, like, cordial and polite and friendly person. And you were just like, I don't think that that's going to mean with Jake's book that he's not going to. And I watched that. I watched your Jake interview, and it was really good. So you did not let him get away. You did not let him get away with the nonsense. I mean, that's a knock on me. Sometimes people be like, oh, you're too polite. You're too nice. And I'm like, well, until I get pissed off.
- [34:13]
Megyn Kelly
Well, it's hard when you have people on who you, you know, have somewhat of a friendly relationship.
- [34:16]
Buck Sexton
Right, of course.
- [34:17]
Megyn Kelly
But, like, that was just such an egregious claim.
- [34:20]
Buck Sexton
You were totally fair. It was about the subject matter. It wasn't personal. You were totally fair to him, and the whole thing was preposterous. And you're just like, okay, I'm gonna. I'm gonna let you make the case this isn't preposterous what you're doing, but it was preposterous, and we all saw that. And that the idea that somehow they've, like, cleansed themselves at CNN or the Democrats of this unbelievable stain on their integrity, which I don't think will ever go away, that we all knew Biden had dementia. I mean, we. We felt bad because it was such a frequent topic on our show on radio.
- [34:51]
Megyn Kelly
Ignore it. And you couldn't not see it.
- [34:54]
Buck Sexton
It was the most obvious thing in the world. And then they're going to tell us, oh, you know what? We figured it out after that debate when it was clear that Biden couldn't run really anymore, and now they want to. Look, I think at some level, too, though, there's a bit of trolling here, because they're like, well, if you did this to us, like, if you knocked our guy out because he had dementia, we're going to do the same to you. The problem is Trump doesn't have dementia. That's the problem.
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Megyn Kelly
Trump's talking fast. He's talking fast. Oh, I got. Stop the presses. Extra, extra. All right, let's keep going. There's more. Scott Besant was at a D.C. restaurant and got harassed by code pink activists. My. My real question here is, how did they know he was going to be at this restaurant? It's Sat six. Take a look at this horrible thing. We have a special guest here, and we want to make a toast for the Secretary of Treasury, Scott Vesson. Oh, yeah. So let's give it up for the.
- [35:50]
Peyton McNabb
Man who is eating in peace as people starve across the world based on his sanctions, which are economic warfare.
- [36:01]
Buck Sexton
Of course you're going to boo this. It's the truth.
- [36:03]
Peyton McNabb
He oversees the death of 600,000 people due to sanctions annually.
- [36:11]
Megyn Kelly
And this president. Let's cheer to the Monroe Doctrine.
- [36:15]
Peyton McNabb
Trump today, send the Venezuelan oil.
- [36:18]
Buck Sexton
And you have no idea how I am ignorant.
- [36:22]
Megyn Kelly
You are responsible for the death of 600,000 people annually because of sanctions. How many people are going to die because of.
- [36:32]
Peyton McNabb
The blood is on your hands.
- [36:33]
Megyn Kelly
The blood is on your hands. You should be ashamed. It goes on and on and on because they want to harass the poor man while he's just having dinner, minding his own business, not bothering anybody in the corner. This is, like, the devolution of, like, good and decency, like, goodness and decency when it comes to our societal behavior. And it does matter.
- [36:58]
Buck Sexton
Well, you're nailing it there. Code Pink is the Westboro Baptist Church of Anti War, you know, activists, they're just. Thank you. They are disgusting, right?
- [37:09]
Megyn Kelly
That's so good.
- [37:10]
Buck Sexton
There we go. They're vile morons. Anybody who's a part of Code Pink is somebody you don't want to be around and you should not take seriously. I'd also note that they generally. I know people can find they probably yelled some things at Pelosi, but they overwhelmingly find that during Republican administrations, no matter what, you know, Trump is the guy who's like, I'm not starting any new wars. We're not, you know, we're not overthrowing Gaddafi in Libya. Like, we're not doing this stuff. And yet Code Pink is always so active during Republican administrations. We know that they're idiots. They do nothing other than get attention for themselves. I think the people who are part of Code Pink honestly have undiagnosed anxiety or other disorders. Like, I think it's a mental health issue to be a member of Code Pink and to do this kind of a thing. I would just say I'm curious, Meghan, because this is so important to me that it is the defenders of civilization in this situation, who are the restaurant staff and an owner, manager. It's up to them to say, you are now trespassed. Get out of here. We're calling the police. And to make their patron. And to make their patron feel, in this case, Scott Best. And let me say this, it's bipartisan for me. If a bunch of Republicans act like a bunch of jerks, which this doesn't happen. But I'm just saying, theoretically, if a bunch of Republicans started harassing a Democrat official like this in a restaurant, I would say the same thing, which is that we can't have civilized society if people can't have a dinner. You know, if an American can't have dinner in the quiet of. Of the corner of a restaurant with whoever, his wife or his, you know, friends, family, we've lost something really essential as a society. So I hope that that restaurant stood up for them. I remember Ted Cruz.
- [38:46]
Megyn Kelly
And by the way, though, like, why. Why the Treasury Secretary? Like, if you're gonna do this to anybody, Trump, Hegseth. I don't know. But, like, why the Treasury Secretary? It's the wrong. But there's more. I wanna show you more.
- [38:59]
Buck Sexton
Let's do it.
- [39:00]
Megyn Kelly
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- [41:29]
Buck Sexton
Able to control myself.
- [41:30]
Megyn Kelly
That would be bad. There would be fears thrown in people's faces. Nice. So she would like to be a US Senator just in case. You may have forgotten this buck, but you're going to remember it when I show it to You. She is the again, Michigan state representative senator, who with my note from my team reads lizard tongue, who spoke at the Democratic National Convention and had a very bad case of dry mouth. Remember with the tongue?
- [42:02]
Buck Sexton
I did not. Remember I had not seen this, actually. This is amazing.
- [42:06]
Megyn Kelly
We're showing a 41 second look so many times with the tongue. It keeps coming way out of the mouth to. To try to find some saliva.
- [42:17]
Buck Sexton
Oh, man.
- [42:18]
Megyn Kelly
So she's super nervous just to give a speech in front of a bunch of party faithful people who are gonna love everything she says. But she's a tough guy. She's a super tough guy, Buck. She sees Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh. If she saw them in public, she'd be throwing bottles of beer at them. Okay, sure.
- [42:38]
Buck Sexton
Yeah, it's.
- [42:38]
Megyn Kelly
Sure, Mallory.
- [42:39]
Buck Sexton
It's also criminal. I mean, it's assault. You can't do that. If you do that, you should be arrested and you should be prosecuted. Right. This is. This isn't free speech. I mean, she's openly at least bragging about how she would break the law because she. She disagrees with Supreme Court justices too. I mean, that's. That's particularly egregious. Look, the left, there are some things that are just broadly true and they really can't be said enough. And I think sometimes people are concerned about saying it.
- [43:09]
Megyn Kelly
One of them is you looking at your background.
- [43:11]
Buck Sexton
Yeah, sorry, my back. I just. I don't know what happened here. I was like, I offended the gods. My background just changed. There are a couple of things. One is that the Democrat Party, if you're going to be a criminal, if you're going to be a felon, it's the Democrat Party that is your home. I think if you're going to.
- [43:25]
Megyn Kelly
Yes.
- [43:26]
Buck Sexton
If you're going to replace religion, spirituality, a sense of something more important than the here and now with politics, you're also a Democrat, and that leads to a whole lot of mental illness infused into one's politics and policies. And this is why you see the behaviors that you do. This is why you have people who would not be violent at all. Like, does anyone think that, you know, whatever her name is, I mean, I'm partial to redheads because I married one, but this redhead is doing. She's doing the team injustice. You know, this is not good for Team Redhead.
- [43:57]
Megyn Kelly
Lizard tongue, you know? Yeah, lizard tongue.
- [44:00]
Buck Sexton
Lizard tongue.
- [44:01]
Megyn Kelly
You know, really? I mean, you know how to drink more water. I'm not sure what it is, but it's between you and your doctor. Probably. It's behavior like that, like we just saw, in addition to just their lackluster messaging and policies and what we're going to talk about in a minute, like the DEI and its impact on actual Americans that the Dems have been pushing that led to this situation as outlined by CNN's Harry Entin. Watch this. SOT7B from Thursday.
- [44:31]
Buck Sexton
Democrats, in the minds of the American public are lower than the Dead Sea, the lowest ever. Look at this. Overall, they are 55 points underwater. Their approval rating is south of 20, 20%. It's even worse when you look at independents. Look at this negative 61 points. That means that their approval rating is 61 points lower than their disapproval rating. Quinnipiac has been polling this question for the better part of the 21st century. They have never found Democrats, at least those in Congress, in worse shape than they are right now.
- [45:06]
Megyn Kelly
Worst ever. Buck Sexton so I know the conventional wisdom is the Dems are going to win the midterms, and I actually also believe that. But it's not totally lost. I mean, there is more than ample weakness on the Dem side to exploit between now and November.
- [45:23]
Buck Sexton
Yes, I'm, I'm concerned because when you look at what's really motivating people right now. So, so there's a little bit of a challenge here with, and I actually said this to the president when I saw him some months back, maybe it was during the summer. I said, sir, my complaint for you, if I could have a complaint, is that you secured the border so quickly that now that's baked in and everyone just sort of assumes like, oh, okay, so we have a secure border now. Right. I mean, it's a little bit of what have you done for me lately thinking on this, because we're not talking about that, the deportations, which is the harder issue to handle. And also the one where there could be more downside that I think is something that's going to continue to be playing out in front of cameras and more. There's more challenge with that affordability. We're going to hear that word, right? So, so the immigration thing, we've got a big win, but I don't think that's going to really mobilize people in the midterms. It's going to be all about how expensive is housing, how expensive is food, and what do people feel like about their health care and their health care premiums. And the Republicans, you know, it's their economy. Right. This is the challenge you run into with, yeah, Biden had the worst inflation in 40 years. But the truth is, it's Trump's, it's his show now and it's Scott Bessen's show, and they're gonna be held responsible one way or another for what's going on.
- [46:51]
Megyn Kelly
I think that's what Trump was doing on Wednesday night, trying to get out there and rejigger the messaging on it. I wanna keep going. I, I mentioned.
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Buck Sexton
Did you think that was a good, that was a good, though, a good speech. I just, I was a little. I thought. It wasn't really. It was like he was.
- [47:05]
Megyn Kelly
No, it did nothing.
- [47:05]
Buck Sexton
It came across like he was frustrated with people who are frustrated with the prices. And I'm like, Trump, you are so much better on the economy than these lunatics.
- [47:15]
Megyn Kelly
I know. And I also just felt like it was so obvious. Like, again, try to make it more clever that you're not just giving a campaign rally before people go home for Christmas. You know, it's like, I don't know, you got, you gotta be careful. You got, you just gotta be careful about telling them everything's great and the tariffs are wonderful and, you know, inflation's no longer a problem at this time of year in particular, when people, Everyone feels stretched. You know, we're. He did the speech, what, 10 days before Christmas, less than. Everybody has overspent. They've probably gone out of their budget because they love their kids and they, Everybody wants to give their kids a magical Christmas and so on and Hanukkah, all of it. So you've had holiday parties that you couldn't afford to throw and you went to ones where you. Whatever. So it's not a great time to be telling everybody it's all great. I think honesty is better. But, you know, Trump is the quintessential marketing guy. He would never resort to just like cold, hard honesty. Like, it hurts, and I know it hurts, but I swear that part where it gets better is coming soon.
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Buck Sexton
There's one part of it that, that Trump, Trump keeps saying things like it's a fill in the blank hoax. And I know what he is saying. He's into this, by the way. This is with the Epstein files. This is with affordability. What he's saying is the Democrat narrative on this is a, like that this is my fault or that I'm hiding or whatever, that they're lying to you. I want him to go back to fake news. That's a way better shorthand. Because when he says the affordability, which he's, you know, they've been running with this constantly at Ms. Now by the way, you know, I watch Morning Joe sometimes for fun, for amusement. It's Ms. Now. But. But he says affordability is a hoax, Meghan. And people go, no, that's not a hoax. He doesn't mean that the prices aren't high and this isn't a challenge. He means Democrats saying that his tariffs or his choices or whatever have caused this is the hoax. And I just think that's him. Again, people think in sound bites. As you know, people vote based on sound bites. And I think we need to clean that up on little bit.
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Megyn Kelly
I have a shocking story to tell you about Joe Scarborough. Oh, he and I actually had a nice moment this week. I went to the Mediaite party for 2025. It's where this website that writes about, you know, media clips and media personalities invites a bunch of people in the media to come to this party. And sort of. It's the one time of year where you cross paths with people who you may not be able to stand. People you've been criticizing, people have been ripping you. And it's kind of like detente for a night. And it's nice. I like it. And believe it or not, Joe Scarborough came over to me, and I was like, oh, God, I don't know where this is going. It could go any number of places. And he said something really sweet about Mark Halperin, who is his friend. And it was something to the effect of, thanks for helping Mark get back on his feet. And I was like, I love Mark Halperin. You know, thanks for saying that. And it was sincere, and he was, like, genuinely warm. And I was like, you know what? Just a good reminder as we go into the holidays that these people who we all rip on and who rip on us, we're all human. We're in the same game. We have plenty of fodder to pick back up with tomorrow. But I don't know, it was. It kind of restored my faith in humanity. That, like, that was sweet. And he knows I've ripped on him endlessly, but he made a point of putting that to the side because he cares about his friend, and I do, too. So it was a nice moment. Buck.
- [50:45]
Buck Sexton
Well, I'm sure, honestly, if I. If I were able to don my zip sweater and join Joe out on the croquet field or something for a few minutes, I think we would have a great time at the country club together. I think we would get along famously. We're two guys with side swoop. Hair part. He probably, just, like me, had the same hair when he was like 5 years old. Never changed. You know, we've both gone through 20 pairs of, of Topsiders over our lives. Lots of boat shoes, even though we don't vote that much. I mean, Joe and I probably have a lot in common. But I would say one thing, you brought up Mark Halpern. It's funny because I've, we've played a lot of his clips on, on, on radio for his analysis to just sort of, you know, work his, his insights into the conversation. And if I may say so, this is. And not just because I'm in the Christmas spirit and I'm basically on Christmas break other than doing your show. You have a great eye for talent, Megan, and no real talent. Now, of course, you were the first person to ever put me on in primetime at Fox News when you had three plus million viewers in the 9pm.
- [51:46]
Megyn Kelly
It didn't take much to see you.
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Buck Sexton
It was very nice.
- [51:49]
Megyn Kelly
It did not take. I wish I could say it was my genius, but it was very obvious.
- [51:52]
Buck Sexton
Your first number one. Never. You never forget. Never forget first primetime host.
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Megyn Kelly
And no, apparently you do. You do. Because I have a. I, I have a.
- [52:01]
Buck Sexton
Do you have people that are.
- [52:02]
Megyn Kelly
Shapiro is not as grateful as you.
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Buck Sexton
I was going to say you have. That is the one thing that for me, I never. And I'm sure you're the same way because I, at a, at a, at a lesser level have been able to also now because I've been doing this for 15 years, help people out. I never require. Thank you. And I never require payback. But people who go in the opposite direction when I've helped them. Megan, I've had people who want to come on and like, sell their book on my show and I'm like, you unfollowed me on Twitter. What are you doing?
- [52:32]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah. Oh, my God. Buck, if I could tell you, like, my basic rule is if you're gonna be my so called friend and keep tagging me on Twitter with posts attacking me, like, I'll let you get away with one, maybe two, you start doing it regularly and I unfollow you.
- [52:47]
Buck Sexton
Oh, dead to me.
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Megyn Kelly
Why would I keep you in my timeline if you just like, you're supposed to be my friend and there's this one particular person who I did this with who's now out there railing, crying in his soup every day about how I unfollowed him. Guess why you kept tagging me on attacks against me. Why would I continue to follow you? It's just, it's so pathetic. And when it's a so called friend or somebody who you've helped. Yeah, it, it's particularly galling. Zero loyalty.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. And we all know it's funny too, in the business, I think everybody knows the people who are, who are stand up and who for their people will. I have a standing rule on radio and I tell the audiences cuz I want them to be fully informed of this and I'll say, because sometimes they'll send in a clip of somebody and even people as you know, I'm sure you have friends like this too who have gone fully, and I would say even maybe psychotically anti Trump. But they're friends of mine or I've known them for years or I've worked with them in the past and I will not hit a friend of mine on the air because if I, if I, you know, if I am going to criticize somebody in what we do, if I see them in person, I'm going to stand behind what I said and be like, yeah, you deserve that. You know, I'm not going to see them in person and be like, hey, let's go for a drink, we're great friends. I'd take a hit at you. And so to keep everything on the up and up, I don't hit my friends publicly. And I note very clearly who does, because if they'll do it to anyone, they'll do it to you. It's also a bit like a good rule, by the way. This is a rule for everybody, not just for people like you and me who work in media. People that do this thing of sharing publicly private text messages when they get into a spat with somebody. Dead to me.
- [54:15]
Megyn Kelly
Yep.
- [54:16]
Buck Sexton
Dead to me. Forever. Never again. Never again.
- [54:19]
Megyn Kelly
No, honestly, like, there are some people who are coming for me right now who I could totally humiliate with their prior texts, but I won't, I won't, because I agree with you, that's just bad form. What's meant to be a private text should stay a private text. It's like, come on, grow up. But yeah, no, it's very annoying and it's just part of our life now. I will say this. Government officials are different. Like, I'm rooting for everybody in Trump's government. I am like, I love Cash, I love Dan, but they have to get ripped on every once in a while because they're in, you know, these public positions. So that's a little more complicated. But we have to do it. If we don't do it, then we're Jake Tapper, then we're msnbc. We're Rachel Maddow. Right. So it's like, it gets trickier, and hopefully those guys are all big boys who understand that's the nature of our business. And in my experience, they all have been very fine with that. They understand it.
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Buck Sexton
Yes. No, I. I think that is. Again, there's. There's criticizing the roles that some. Or rather the actions that somebody takes in. In a role and. And how their decision making has gone in. In that context, and then there's going after somebody sort of personally or trying to humiliate them. And I think that you do have an obligation when somebody has the kind of power. I mean, look, Pete Hegset's a friend of mine. Right? It's a friend of yours. Pete is the Secretary of War, and they're blowing up boats full of people. Now, I am not opposed to their rationale for this, but I'm just saying that's a lot of power to have. Right. You know, so if somebody's doing. If you think somebody has erred in their decision making and they have the power of life and death over other human beings, I'm just using this as an example. You know, you have to hold that to account at some level. Right. And, you know, if. Let's say if they blew up the wrong boat, I'd have to say, guys, this is a really big problem. Right. I couldn't just say, oh, you know.
- [56:00]
Megyn Kelly
That was a fail.
- [56:00]
Buck Sexton
You know, stuff happens.
- [56:02]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah. Or you're a shill. You know, you're a shill, so you can't become a shill. Okay, I want to keep going because I really do want to get to this. It was published in Compaq magazine on Monday. It's almost 9,000 words in length. It's entitled the Lost Generation, and it's by Los Angeles based writer Jacob Savage. He tried to publish it in. He told to Matt Taibbi that he tried to publish it in the Atlantic, but they demanded changes to it. So he said no. He said they were interested, but then they came back and were like, it has to only be about you and your experience in Hollywood. You could do some stats or whatever. They didn't want him to make it more broadly about the plight of white men. Like, it can just be a personal story. That's it. Beyond that, no. So he said no, and he published it in compact. And it's devastating. And what the heart of it is is that white men have been utterly devastated, especially millennial white men, by dei. That this is not just some term as JD Vance pointed out the other day, that means extra sensitivity sessions on implicit bias at your workplace that you roll your eyes at. No, a generation of white men have had their career prospects obliterated, not to mention their self worth, because of this pernicious ideology that was accepted at every level of society from schools to colleges to sports to corporate America, Hollywood media, you name it, and they go through, yes, this writer Jacob's experience as trying to get a job in Hollywood, but also that of multiple other men who. Here's one that jumped out at me. His name is Ethan and he's an Ivy League educated social scientist. He couldn't get a job in academia because of DEI. He was a finalist for a 10 year track position five times, flown out again and again for interviews and meet and greets and departmental dinners. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride. At a certain point, he began to see himself the way the search committees did. Listen to this buck. Other identifiers or other things I valued about myself have receded. Being a white man, meanwhile, moved into the foreground in a way that I didn't expect. He was taught to loathe it. He was taught to see it as something for which he needed to apologize or feel bad about, which is disgusting. And now the roosters are coming home to roost. The chickens are coming home to roost. With the real life toll of this hideous ideology becoming more public.
- [58:36]
Buck Sexton
Well, Megan, I'm a white male millennial, actually. I qualify as somebody in this cohort. And so this is very personal for me. This is very personal for a lot of my friends, for my brothers who are close to my age. We saw this, we dealt with this, and people need to speak about this. You have to remove a lot of the enforced dogma and doctrine, and you have to sort of brush away the nonsense from your mind on this. This was just explicit discrimination. I mean, this was actually. And there's been this thing for a while where they'll say reverse discrimination or, oh, it's so hard to be a white man, or whatever. No, it's not so hard to be a white man if you're a boomer who's already got, you know, enough stock options to retire, is working on the Aspen ski House and, or, or the equivalent in academia. You're already a tenured professor at Harvard. You've already had your career. They fed white millennial men's futures into the wood chipper and they felt righteous doing it. And we all saw it and we were all being told, sorry, we have to. We were like the human sacrifice in order to atone for America's history of racism. But it wasn't even just racism. It was. They were doing this to benefit Latinos, and they were doing this for Native Americans, and they were doing this for women in fields, you know, stem, where there weren't enough women. And they were doing this in all these different contexts. You sit here and you say, how can it be moral to tell somebody, I was gonna hire you? You're the best person for the job, but you're white and you're a guy. So no, this happened. And one of the ways that you knew that it was immoral, by the way, this is how my first realization, I was in, like, eighth grade, but my first realization I'm a conservative or I'm a Republican was around this issue. And honestly, it had to do with the double standards that I saw playing out over and over again through institutions for behavior, for college admissions, and then later on for. For jobs.
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Megyn Kelly
I mean, what year would that have been, Buck? Just to give me an idea of where we are.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, I graduated college in 2004, so I'm. I would have been old. You know, I'm at the very oldest edge of millennials, but my brother is five years younger than me. For example, he went to Georgetown. And I mean, it was just known on, on campuses during the hiring. And remember, this is for people your early trajectory can make. Makes a huge difference, not just in your career, but also your earning potential, your ability to build a family and, you know, live in a major American city and support that family. We were just told, like, look, if you're going to try to get a job at Goldman Sachs, like, they're going to hire women and black students way before you because they've. Now people would say, but Goldman Sachs is full of white guys or, you know, Morgan Stanley. Same thing. Yeah. At the partner level and at the vp, like, they already had, you know, been at the trough for decades. It was the people, the millennials who were coming up. And this is what this piece gets to. And, and there were real consequences for this, too. TV writing turned into garbage in the last 10 years. Garbage top to bottom, all over the place. And it's because the writers rooms were full of second and third tier, six skilled writers because they were the preferred ethnicity or gender or sexual orientation or they were trans or whatever it may be. The reason this has been such a phenomenon, this article, and I've shared it and I've talked to my family about it and JD Vance and everybody is that this is a truth that we were all observing, but we weren't allowed to say. You weren't allowed to say this? I wasn't allowed to point out that I went to a college that turned down 85% of the applicants. Megan. But they had to have a special summer course for basic math and basic reading for black and Native American and some other groups of students. Like, I mean, I had friends who got like 1550 on the SAT, and at four O's, they didn't get in. But we're doing basic math.
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Megyn Kelly
Still happening.
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Buck Sexton
I know it's still happening, but at least now we can talk about it. Before it was, what we were being told was this was making no difference whatsoever to the quality of the applicant, to the skills of the. Or, you know, to the skills of the person. And therefore it wouldn't make any difference in these institutions. That is a lie. It is obviously a lie. And you've seen this now.
- [63:03]
Megyn Kelly
And you know what else? You know what else? This is an important point. It's illegal. Yes, it's totally fucking illegal. And the great piece of this story now today in almost 2026America is. Well, I'll just play it. The chairwoman of the eeoc, Andrea Lucas, has something that you need to hear. Take a listen. I'm Andrea Lucas, chair of the US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Are you a white male who's experienced discrimination at work based on your race or sex? You may have a claim to recover money under federal civil rights laws. Contact the EOC as soon as possible. Time limits are typically strict for filing a claim. The EEOC is the federal agency charged with enforcing federal anti discrimination law against businesses and other private sector employers. The EEOC is committed to identifying, attacking and eliminating all forms of race and sex discrimination, including against white male applicants and employees. Check out EEOC.gov to learn more and read our one page explainer about DEI related discrimination.
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Buck Sexton
That's fantastic.
- [64:15]
Megyn Kelly
Hallelujah.
- [64:16]
Buck Sexton
I was gonna say that was great. That was like a Christmas miracle. Everybody who's been. Every white male listening, if you've been discriminated, please sue. Please do this, because by the way, the next administration, they're gonna. All of a sudden you're gonna have to use the preferred pronoun if it's a Democrat, but you're gonna have to use the preferred pronouns. And we're gonna go back, they're gonna try to find ways around this and all that, this other nonsense. They need to feel the pain of the discrimination that they engaged in. And everybody needs to be willing to go back and say, why? Why weren't more people vocal about this? Why weren't more people willing to say, clearly, you're taking people with lesser skills with less impressive credentials, whether it's for academia, for writing in Hollywood, for, you know, big law. I mean, just go down the list. And I mean, this is what was going on. And it was systemic across the whole country. And finally now someone says, and the problem was Megan, they kept saying, oh, well, look, these institutions still. It's still 80% white or it's still, you know, 65% white men or whatever at the top, maybe. But this is where the millennial aspect of it, this policy was instituted in a way where the people who really suffered were roughly my age cohort within 10 years. So again, I saw this up close and personal. I mean, I saw who was getting jobs out of Amherst at all these top firms. And if you were the right ethnicity, you got. You got a job offer from everyone.
- [65:37]
Megyn Kelly
Oh, I mean, of course, we all see it still happening. And it's. It's breeding race, race resentment.
- [65:44]
Buck Sexton
Of course.
- [65:44]
Megyn Kelly
Truly a complete backlash. The very thing they claimed existed that didn't, they've created.
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Buck Sexton
They love this story at CNN where they'll go, oh, you know, here is like, here is a student, and it's generally, you know, a student who is black, usually a black female who got into every Ivy League school. And we're all supposed to clap. And I want to be like, okay, what were her SATs? I'm just wondering, because I had friends who got perfect sats, perfect sats, who didn't get in to, you know, any Ivy League school on the first go round.
- [66:15]
Megyn Kelly
I mean, any. A lot of them don't get in anywhere. And they don't even just apply to Ivy Leagues now. I mean, I've seen it happen. There was that article in the New York Post a couple months ago from the Asian kid who, like, literally had a perfect score on the sat, had a perfect gpa. Asians get it even worse than white.
- [66:28]
Buck Sexton
Yes, that's true.
- [66:29]
Megyn Kelly
And didn't get in anywhere because they really don't like the Asians. I mean, it's blatant race discrimination. And this is post the US Supreme Court decision saying that's illegal, that you.
- [66:40]
Buck Sexton
Can'T do this is just like. It's just like a mirror image of the civil rights are. You have to actually enforce, which means you have to sue. And, you know, I know Harmony Dillon at the Department of Justice has got her eye on this. We need more people to take action here because, yeah, they're just ignoring it. These institutions are trying to ignore it as much as they can. If you look at the admission rates at Harvard for different ethnicities, they've stayed pretty static. And we know that they're playing games with this stuff. So this is a. It's a hugely important conversation for the country. It has created a tremendous amount of resentment, and rightfully so. And you know, the thing that I think galls a lot of people, Megan, and this is for all the white guys around my age listening to this, is that you were kind of ridiculed in the most surly and condescending fashion. Like, oh, it's so hard to be a white male. It's like, what? I went to school with people. I went to a scholarship high school and I went. There are plenty of white kids. There are plenty of minorities there. But we're told that it's so easy for us. How is it easy if you're being discriminated against when you're applying to college, you're being discriminated against when you're applying for jobs, being discriminated against when it comes to promotions. Like, where does this white privilege thing kick in? Exactly. I mean, you know, and on top.
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Megyn Kelly
Of it, you're being blamed for all society's ills for nothing. You've done, nothing you've done sins of the father, the grandfather, the great, great people who were here when you weren't here, to whom you have no relation. Everything's your fault.
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Buck Sexton
Well, this is also ties directly into why the Democrat party is in such a bad position right now. Because men have just. Men who have like normal testosterone levels and see reality for what it are just fed up with the Democrat Party. They're just like, this is. This place is a joke. And it's in part because of this.
- [68:24]
Megyn Kelly
Because black men too, not just white men, black men across.
- [68:27]
Buck Sexton
They're done too, across the board. But they realize that this is just. The Democrat Party lives in this weird fantasy land where you're not allowed to say what the most obvious. You're not allowed to observe. The Democrat Party is engaged in a constant war on observation. And people get tired of that.
- [68:45]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, big time. All right, I gotta go. But I want to end on something positive. And it is a story out of the Bondi beach shooting that happened in Australia. There were at least two civilians who tried to fight back against that father son execution team waving the ISIS flag all over their cars as they took the lives of. Of Jewish gatherers trying to celebrate Hanukkah on the beach. And one of the men, one of the civilians you see it here, who attacked one of the shooters is. Is named Ahmed Al Ahmed. He tried to get the gun away and did get the gun away, and eventually wound up getting. Losing the gun. And he got shot himself, unfortunately. And he's okay. He's in the hospital. So people are hailing this guy as a hero because at least he tried. You know, eventually we would see video of female cops cowering behind their cars. And here you have a genuinely brave, heroic civilian doing the right thing. He had no gun, just charged the guy and got his gun. Anyway, there's been one of those public campaigns to get him something like a check or a donation, and they did really well. $2.5 million has been raised, and they presented to him. This was posted on TikTok. Take a look at SOT15.
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Buck Sexton
I came here with news of people around the world. 43,000 people.
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Megyn Kelly
They're in the hospital.
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Buck Sexton
They raised you $2.5 million. I deserve it, every penny. My pleasure. Thank you very much. If you could say one thing to.
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Megyn Kelly
The people that donated, what would you tell them?
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Buck Sexton
Stand into each other, all a human being.
- [70:42]
Megyn Kelly
And forget.
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Buck Sexton
Put everything back behind the back and keep going. To save life. Save lives.
- [70:52]
Megyn Kelly
When I.
- [70:55]
Buck Sexton
Do save the people, I.
- [70:59]
Megyn Kelly
Do it from the heart.
- [71:01]
Buck Sexton
This country, Best country in the world. The best country in the world.
- [71:08]
Megyn Kelly
But.
- [71:10]
Buck Sexton
We'Re not gonna stand and keep watching. Enough. It's enough.
- [71:17]
Megyn Kelly
God protect us. Amazing. Amazing. You've got Ahmed Al Ahmed working against these ISIS terrorists to save Jews on a beach, and then says, I deserve this. I 2.5 million. And reminds us all to stand for life.
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Buck Sexton
It's fantastic. And I would just say I would like to see this become a bit more of what the standard is. Not only the standard of action, which is that people run to save their fellow human beings in a situation like this, but also that as societies, we should. We should absolutely reward bravery. Courage. Saving the lives of fellow human beings in a situation like this. I mean, this should be the standard. So I'm. I'm happy to see that this guy, you know, certainly has enough money to, I think, retire comfortably in Melbourne or wherever, and he deserves it. And there should be. There should be more of this. And it's. You know, there's a. There's a whole lot to talk about with Bondi. We'll talk about that maybe another time. But in the meantime, this was the one bright spot of what was a horrendous day. And this Guy deserves every penny.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah. Merry Christmas, my friend. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. Thanks for everything this year.
- [72:32]
Buck Sexton
Always. Thank you so much, Megan. See you in the new year.
- [72:34]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, see you then. Buck Sexton, everyone. Before we go, a word on what we're doing here. We are going on vacay with my family and we have a bunch of good content for you next week, which I think will be new to you if you don't watch all of the MK Media shows. And then the second week that week from Christmas into New Year's, we have all new content for you. It's our true crime Christmas week, which always does well because nothing says Christmas like true crime. It'll technically be post Christmas, but you get the point. So that'll be all new content Monday through Friday of the second week. And I hope you enjoy it, and I really hope that you enjoy your time with your families, with your loved ones, with your friends, around the Christmas tree, around church on Christmas Eve, which is so magical and that you get back to what matters, which is not online stuff. Stop focusing on the darkness that's been in the news lately. Just try to spend real time with your loved ones and the things that make you happy and make you you. Right? Who makes you you. It starts within you, but it's definitely got massive deposits every day from the people you surround yourself with. So choose well and amplify what. What's good for you, minimize what's not. Have some downtime, some quiet time offline with a book, with some music, in church. Get back in touch with God, if that. If that's for you. And in between now and then, I will see you tonight from the stage in Arizona at Turning Point usa, where I expect to make some news. Before we leave this program, we're going to play for you an interview we did the other day with Peyton McNabb. She was the teenager who was hurt by a boy pretending to be a girl in North Carolina in that volleyball game in a moment that changed the world. It was one of the seminal moments in the fight for girls and women's rights in sports and in this entire area. And she, for years now has become the butt of a joke. People think she made it up, made up her injuries. There's been questions about whether the kid who hit her was actually a boy. And she actually has new video that is shocking from this boy pretending to be a girl about the situation that she's never released before. But she's finally ready to do it. That's next. Happy holidays to you all. And God bless you ever read the label on a typical bag of chips? It's often a science experiment of seed oils, msg, artificial dyes and mystery ingredients. Well, Masa is part of the growing movement to bring back real food. Masa's chips contain just three organic corn, sea salt and 100% grass fed beef tallow. Not only do these chips avoid the bad stuff, they also taste incredible too. Snacking on Masa chips is nothing like eating regular chips. With Masa, you feel satisfied. You feel light, energetic with no crash or bloat. And if you love Masa, then you will love Vandy Crisps. Vandy, Massa's sister company makes the most delicious three ingredient potato chips too. Ready to give Masa or Vandy a try? Use code MK for 25% off your first order at Massachips.com or VandyCrisps.com or simply click the link in the video description or scan the QR code to claim this delicious offer. Don't feel like ordering online? Masa and Vandy are now both available nationwide. At your local sprouts supermarket, stop by and pick up a couple of bags before they're gone. You know how every family has got that one holiday cooking disaster story? Some of us may have more than one, well, multiple over the years. Well, if that's the case, you could have used Chef iq, where we use Chef IQ when I needed you. Chef IQ Sense is the wireless cooking thermometer that takes all the guesswork out of holiday meals. Your roast turkey or prime rib comes out perfect every time, turning the I think think it's done quandary into I know it's perfect. It even tells you when to flip, when to take it off the heat, and how long to let it rest. Basically, it's like having a personal chef right in your kitchen. With Chef iq, you can sip your cocoa and actually spend time with your family instead of hovering over the oven. It's the gift everyone will love. Perfect for seasoned cooks, kitchen rookies, and everyone in between. This season, give yourself and your loved ones the gift of perfectly cooked meals with Chef IQ and with our promo code MK, you can save 30% and get all of your shopping done. Go to Chef IQ.com promo code MK Chef IQ.com Whenever I need to send roses that are guaranteed to make someone's day, the only place I trust is 1-800-flowers.com with 1-800-flowers, my friends and family always receive stunning, high quality bouquets that they absolutely love. Right now, when you buy a dozen multicolored roses 1-800-flowers will double your bouquet to two dozen roses. To claim this special double roses offer, go to 1-800-flowers.com sxm that's 1-800-flowers. Com sxm.
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Megyn Kelly
Hey everyone, it's me, Megyn Kelly. I've got some exciting news. I now have my very own channel on serious. It's called the Megyn Kelly Channel and it is where you will hear the truth unfiltered, with no agenda and no apologies. Along with the Megyn Kelly show, you're gonna hear from people like Mark Halperin, Link Lauren, Maureen Callahan, Emily Drishinski, Jesse Kelly, RealClearPolitics, and many more. It's bold. No BS news only on the Megyn Kelly Channel, Sirius XM111 and on the SiriusXM app. We have quite an update for you now in a story that we first brought to years ago about a female athlete whose life was turned upside down following a head injury she received after a male competing against her during a high school volleyball game back in 2022 spiked the ball in her face so hard she actually suffered a brain injury. Peyton McNabb joined our show back in 2023 to share that story describing how that injury impacted her everyday life. Well, over the past few years, Peyton, who has continued to speak out to protect women's sports as an ambassador for the group Independent Women, has gotten abused repeatedly by the hateful left. Everyone from John Oliver to many others, including a comedian who just this month went viral for making fun of Peyton's injury, decided that she was fair game, that she overstated the extent of her injuries, and that the trans athlete so called Trans athlete, male to female, is really the one we should feel sorry for here. Some have even questioned whether she even got hit in the face by a trans player. Well, today she has for us exclusive video of this athlete who is a man pretending to be a woman who injured her years ago while in high school, who shows zero remorse for the pain he caused her. Peyton, welcome back to the show. How you doing?
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Peyton McNabb
Hi, Megan. Thank you so much for having me. I'm doing well.
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Megyn Kelly
Of course. So you were in high school in North Carolina. And just remind the audience what happened. You were what year in high school? And. And we'll show the video, but tell us what happened.
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Peyton McNabb
Yeah, so it was my senior year of high school. I went into this game, there was a guy on the other side of the net. I'm trying to be as encouraging and motivating as I can. I've played played against him for four years at that point, but it was completely allowed in North Carolina because nothing had happened for them to ban it. So I went to the game and I get completely knocked out unconscious for about 30 seconds while the other team laughs and I'm in a fencing position. The trainer comes up to me, asks me if I know what just happened to me. And I said, yeah, the boy on Yalls team just knocked me out. He rushed me off the court. He did one little finger test on me and said I was good and go all back into play. Thankfully, I did not go back into play because I ended up going to the doctor and finding out that I had a concussion, a partial brain bleed and permanent whiplash.
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Megyn Kelly
Oh, so awful. So this happens to you and you found the temerity, the guts to speak out about it and then instead of calling you and apologizing, you told me this the first time you came on with your story. The male pretending to be a female who did this to you was very snarky to you behind the scenes.
- [82:32]
Peyton McNabb
He was showed absolutely no remorse and said that he's living rent free in my head, which, you know, I. My whole life had changed at this point because of him. And for him to have no remorse, of course, which is what we see time and time again. I don't expect anything less of him. But for that to happen, I was 17 at the time and I didn't know what to think. And it was such a different time for me and how far I've come in the past few years. Even from the first time I spoke to you about this, I've grown so much and I know exactly what I'M saying, and I'm confident in what I'm saying because I know that I'm right. And the other side, as much as they want to tear women like me down and silence us, we're just never going to, because this fight is worth way more than that. And I've known that from the beginning.
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Megyn Kelly
There's a reason this happened to you because you seem so earnest to me. Like, I of course, believe you 100%, but like, you also, I think, are a very effective messenger because you do seem just like a regular person. You know, you don't have, like, an extra level of media polish. You just seem normal and like a normal girl to whom this happened who found the guts to say something about it while this guy was remorseless. You say behind the scenes and now you contacted me privately to tell me that you had. But no one else had seen two videos of this guy talking about you and himself. These videos show how sorry he is for himself and the disdain for you. Still remorseless. Now, when. When were these made? I'm going to show the audience both of them. But when were they made?
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Peyton McNabb
They were made shortly after all of this happened. Probably like a month or two maybe. He posted them on Tick Tock, which we got right off of there, and then he shortly after deleted them. And I've been holding on to these because, you know, no one believes me. They've. They say that I'm lying or that it was actually a girl or whatever, and that there's no proof that what I'm saying is even true. And I've felt no need to explain myself or to prove myself because I know what happened and everyone else knows what happened. But to the public, I'm lying and I'm. I'm covering it up. So I just thought. I wasn't. I wasn't planning on sharing these, but if they don't believe me, maybe they'll believe him saying it himself.
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Megyn Kelly
Let's watch. Okay, we're going to play the first one here where this is him lamenting what's happened to him in his senior year as a result of all this. Senior year recap. If you want to have a senior year just like me, follow these steps. One, endure the hell that is school volleyball. Two, hit a girl in the face.
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Peyton McNabb
And make national news.
- [85:25]
Megyn Kelly
Getting national hate. I was on Fox News twice. Number three, find out that your athletic director and your coach have been outing.
- [85:35]
Peyton McNabb
You to every school you played since freshman year against your will. Number four, get kicked off your old.
- [85:44]
Megyn Kelly
Club volleyball team that you've been playing on for seven years.
- [85:47]
Peyton McNabb
Total drama island style. I got voted off by the parents.
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Megyn Kelly
Number five, try out for the only other good club team near you, and you get cut because of the national news that you're a faggot. Number six, contemplate quitting volleyball. Number seven, don't quit volleyball.
- [86:09]
Peyton McNabb
Number eight, commit to Kennesaw State on a full scholarship.
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Megyn Kelly
Number nine, get your scholarship taken away because you told the coach that you're a tranny. Me? The like level of what appears to be some sort of mental break there is alarming. This person has made himself the entire victim. There's a re. You lost your scholarship because it's for girls. That's a scholarship for a girl, which you're not. And. And. And he's lamenting that the coaches told opposing players he was on the team that these players were going to have to face. Meanwhile, it's a. It's a question of safety. And he's talking about, like, what he lost academic or athletically after he injured you. Why do you think that is? You think, like, parents have a right to know. Girls have a right to know. This is like he's. He's trying to make himself look all feminine in that clip. But this is a. Isn't he very tall and obviously very strong?
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Peyton McNabb
Yeah, exactly. And for him to turn this around and he's. He's the only victim in all of this. I mean, my senior year was completely ruined, too. I couldn't drive for several months. I never played volleyball again. And for him to be the victim. And of course. Of course it is, because that's what we see over and over again. And he's upset because he can't get girls opportunities anymore. Like, that's. That's what happens when a guy is on a girl's team. And I don't. I hate to break that to him, but that's just the way it is. And you had to get a reality check somehow. And if you wouldn't have completely altered my life, then you probably still would have had that scholarship, which is unfortunate for me. But all things work out and happen for a reason. And I truly do believe that it did happen to me for a reason, because I continue to say something about it, and I'm not going to stop. And because he shames me on TikTok and publicly as much as he can. I really don't care. And, you know, I'm sad that I felt bad for him because he's lost and there's something wrong, and I pray for him but ultimately, he's not the victim here. I was. And every single girl in that court was the victim that day.
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Megyn Kelly
And here's a news flash. You're not a woman, sir. And you never will be. It doesn't matter how much makeup you do, how much you inflate your lips, what you do to your hair.
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Buck Sexton
You.
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Megyn Kelly
You are male. And you will stay male no matter what hormones you inject, what surgeries you have, or how much you try to act when you get in front of a camera. You're a boy, you're a man. That's what you should deal with. That's reality. Here's the second clip. Equally infuriating. And he addresses you directly. Watch number 29.
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Peyton McNabb
The girl you hit in the face goes to North Carolina General assembly and.
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Megyn Kelly
Speaks about her experience trying to get anti trans legislation passed. The whole situation of you hitting her in the face is brought back to life. Great.
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Peyton McNabb
That is exactly what I needed in my senior year.
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Megyn Kelly
Thank you, Peyton. So no question, there he is on camera admitting he was the one who hit you in the face. No denial. And blaming you for testifying about it when asked on the should we ban boys from girls sports bill.
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Peyton McNabb
Yeah, like, like, thank you for completely altering and ruining my life at the time was what I thought. You know, I, I. It's not my fault that you got your stuff taken away. That's, that's what you, that's, you know, what comes with pretending to be a girl and invading a girl's space.
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Megyn Kelly
Fraud.
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Peyton McNabb
So, like, action, like consequence. Actions have consequences. And I hate that. Like, he had the reality check so early, but that's just the way it is. And it's not my fault that your senior year got ruined. That's your fault for pretending and staying in this lie. And everyone else around you who continued to lie to you instead of telling you the truth. And you know, that's not love to me. Loving isn't lying. And I feel bad for him that he didn't have people that were willing to tell him what the truth was early on.
- [90:25]
Megyn Kelly
He's got a lot of anger in him. I mean, I would stay away if I were you. This person seems somewhat unhinged to me. But he's not the only one. Like when John Oliver did that hit piece on you, Peyton, I almost fell out of my chair. It was so unfair. And John Oliver has an executive producer who's trans male to female. And so everything John Oliver says is out of this world, off the rails, just completely unhinged in favor of trannies that's who's running his programming. That's what explains all of his commentary. He does not give a shit about young girls or women who are getting hurt. He couldn't care less. To the point where he actually came for you in a monologue he did in April of 2025, which we got into at length at the time. But here's the piece that touches on you and your injury. Sat 39.
- [91:19]
Buck Sexton
The most famous example concerns Peyton McNabb, a three sport high school athlete who was hit in the face by a spike during a volleyball match. She suffered injuries including a concussion and started speaking out against the policies that allowed the trans player who spiked the ball to play. A concussion is genuinely traumatic though. For what it's worth, she did go on to play softball in the spring and did pretty well judging by her school posting this image about her making the all confident team and a local paper pointing out she helped her team to a 5, 0 start. And I'm not saying she wasn't injured or that it didn't have some impact on her performance, but a lot of the groups heavily pushing this story seem to be overselling it.
- [91:57]
Megyn Kelly
Hmm. Thoughts on that?
- [92:00]
Peyton McNabb
I mean, a grown man who is talking down on. I was 17 at the time when this happened to me and I'm trying to, I'm trying to live a normal life the best I can. I'm very thankful and blessed to have come from the community that I came from, who my whole team, all the, all the teams that I played, my officials, coaches, everyone knew what was going on with me and they were very, very considerate on, you know, if something happened to me, the whole game is stopping to see if I'm okay. And that was a really dark time for me and my family and my community as a whole and something that I would never wish on anyone for them to go through. And this grown man is getting on here and making like, making fun in light of my situation. I would never, I could never imagine my dad getting on online and on his show and saying that about a 17 year old girl's injury. Like I genuinely can't think of that. And he is so deranged and it's just so stupid to watch that I didn't even, I couldn't even watch that whole thing because when this all aired I was also, it was kind of rough because I had just gotten back from the State of the Union and I was getting attacked like I had gotten attacked earlier on, but it had kind of, you know, it comes in waves and People don't really say anything for a little while, but I was getting really beat down. I was having to stay with my sisters because in a different state, because people were trying to find out where I lived. And then this just added more flames to the fire. And I was mean. And I'm like. Like, I did not know how to do what to do. And for him to, like, be taking joy, like there's joy on his face for talking about me that way, like, what is wrong with you? I would never. I could never imagine.
- [93:41]
Megyn Kelly
Disgusting. What is wrong with him? Something seriously and deep is wrong with John Oliver. He's being programmed by his tranny producer who's calling the shots over there. And he's too much of a weak P word to stand up to this person and shares the ideology. He'd love to see my daughter and everyone else's daughter get the same injury you had and worse. Just as long as he feels good about what he's done for the trans community, the ones who are hurting our girls. You mentioned the state of the union here. That was a crazy moment where Trump mentioned you. This is March of 2025, and the Democrats refused to stand. What? They're against young girls who get hurt by male players standing up for themselves. Here's what happened.
- [94:30]
Buck Sexton
Three years ago, Peyton McNabb was an all star high school athlete, one of the best, preparing for a future in college sports. But when her girls volleyball match was invaded by a male, he smashed the ball so hard in Peyton's face, causing traumatic brain injury, partially paralyzing her right side and ending her athletic career. It was a shot like she's never seen before. She's never seen anything like it. Peyton is here tonight in the gallery. And Peyton, from now on, schools will kick the men off the girls team or they will lose all federal funding.
- [95:20]
Peyton McNabb
It's such a play. Like, everything's so fake. And for all of them to be wearing their pink suits and trying to signal to everyone that they're. They're the party for the women. And then they refuse to even look at me when I'm getting mentioned for having a brain injury because of a guy in spandex. Like, how can you. How can you even claim to be the party of women? And then you do that. Like, actions speak way louder than what you're wearing. And you prove it time and time again that you're not for women. And, like, we've begged and pleaded for you to be on our side. And there's women all over the country who are begging for this. Like, everyone's tired of it. The American people are tired of it, which has also been brought up in multiple, multiple cases because it keeps happening. And you can't even look at me when I'm getting recognized. And like, how sad is that? You have to be so sad and deranged. But I can't even be like, I'm not surprised about it. I wasn't surprised about it at the time either because I mean, they've, they've proven themselves over and over again. But they didn't even just stand.
- [96:21]
Megyn Kelly
You're too threatening.
- [96:22]
Peyton McNabb
Exactly. Like, they're not going to stand for me. They didn't even stand for Lake and Riley's family when they got recognized. And like, what is wrong with you? There is something evil and, and like mentally just deranged about them. And they, they hide behind the colors that they're wearing. Like, that just makes no sense to me. And it infuriated me at the time.
- [96:44]
Megyn Kelly
It's amazing how the bullying continues. Like, you got bullied by this trans player, you've been bullied by some of the biggest names in media and now you get bullied by half of the Democrats or more than half of the Democrats at the State of the Union. And it goes on. So this happened back in 2022. Here we are in 2025, almost 2026. I mentioned this in the intro, but here's this so called comedian Stacy K. Who is also a trans person. Right. I'm, I'm told that this, this person is also trans. And this is what Stacy K. Said about you just like a few weeks ago. And it just, it was filmed in September, but it went viral in December at the Denver Comedy Underground. Here the whole argument is she suffered catastrophic brain damage, right. That she'll never recover from. She'll never be able to have a normal life. And this is with her in the room. They're just, they're like, look how slow she is. She'll never be able to drive. And they don't, they don't ever want to show the clip of what happened because it's pretty funny actually. It's a seven second clip and it's a girl, It's a trans girl. Presumably, I'm told, could goes up to do a spike and I can't tell she's trans. Her form is perfect. She looks good at sports, right? And then there's Peyton sitting back like, I don't know, six feet from the net, flat footed with her hands down like this. And then she just gets hit, right? In the head and falls over like a toddler. And I'm like, oh, she was really like this before. I know if there's a nice way to say this, but she should have been wearing a helmet. She shouldn't have been out there with the normal people. That guy wants to make a pronouncement on normal, on what's normal and what's not. Take off your dress, sir. Put your pants back on and stop trying to co opt our identity. That dress does not make you a woman. Nothing ever will. See point earlier in response to the trans player who hurt Peyton. Unbelievable. What did you think when you saw that?
- [99:02]
Peyton McNabb
Well, I mean, how desperate for laughs do you have to be for a grown dude in a dress to be making fun of a girl who was 17 at the time, who literally suffered a permanent brain injury? Like, how sad is that, first of all? But this is all deeply rooted from a hatred of women, which is the common theme here. You know, like I have things that he'll. He'll never have. One, I'm actually naturally hilarious. But two, I'm an actual woman and he will never ever be able to have that. He never will. It does not matter how many push up bras you wear, how many dresses you wear, it's not going to happen. And there's literally, that's right, you can do to make it happen. And I was also thinking like, the people laughing behind the scenes, that was what was kind of upsetting to me at first. I'm like, first of all, who's bored enough to even go to a show like this? Like, I could genuinely never think of a time where I would have nothing better to do than to go to one of these shows. But then to actually be laughing at a joke like this. At first I was convinced it was a laughing track because I'm like, it wasn't even funny. I'm all about a good joke and making light of a situation. And I'm not soft by all means on making fun or light of stuff, but that's when it's actually funny. And there was no punchline like there genuinely. It wasn't even a joke. It was just him making fun of a girl who was 17 who got injured by a dude in spandex and now a dude in a dress is laughing about it. Like, make that make sense. It sounds like a parody. But that was real life. And that's who's coming after me for telling the simple truth that you will never be a woman. You will never be like me, who is an actual woman, and that's what you hate. So that's what you're attacking, and that's sad for you, but so there's nothing anyone can do about that, including you.
- [100:45]
Megyn Kelly
And they want it all. They want to have a monthly cycle. It's a no. They want to get pregnant and have a baby. You can't. They want to nurse the baby. Also a no. They want all the things that women come by, thanks to God, that will never be available to them. They want the softness of our skin. They want the luxness of our hair. They want the beautiful scents that come with a woman's body. It's all a no. You're a man. You're going to be a hairy, large person with shoulders and hips and legs that we would never have. And you will never have a baby. You will never be able to do the miracles that God allowed us to do. Deal with that. Get off the stage, take off the dress and deal with that instead of attacking a teenager for her brain injury, you sick m effer. Okay, I stole the last word on that, but I do want to get you to say quickly, before we go, are we feeling good about what's happening with Olympic sports now and the trend? We're not there yet, but the trend we're seeing on this issue in America?
- [101:48]
Peyton McNabb
I think so. I think more people are willing to stand up and say what they actually feel and what they actually think. And there was a time where no one could say what we were saying or they would get canceled or fired or whatever. And I think it's gotten to the point where parents and dads and. And just everyone in general is just sick and tired of it because it's been going on for way too long. And the Olympics, the IOC actually making. I mean, they. They said because of scientific studies that men have more biological strength in women. Like, obviously, that's what we've been saying for years. So it's not rocket science that they just came up with, like, obviously. But at least they're saying it. I would love for them to give back the medals that the. The men took last year because, like, what are you doing? Why. Why was a man allowed to be able to be in a ring and punch a girl in the face and then get a gold medal for it? Like, that is so sick. But at least things are finally turning. More and more people are. Are willing to stand up and say something about it, which obviously wasn't happening very much before. So I'm thankful to see the tide turning, and I really do have high Hopes for it. As long as more people are, you know, waking up to the fact that this could happen to anyone. This happened to me in the middle of rural North Carolina, and that's what woke me up. I'm like, we shouldn't have waited till it happened to me to say something. But the fact that it's happening here, it's happening everywhere, because that's not something that we ever saw. So I don't want this ever to be a possibility for my younger sister, who I'm doing this all for. And if I get blessed enough to have a daughter one day, like, she should never even think it's a possibility for a man to be on the other side of the net. Because there was a time in my life where I thought that, too. Like, I didn't think that would ever be allowed and that my parents or the parents, all the parents in there wouldn't allow that to happen. But the fact that actually happened and it was celebrated, and it's still happening in some places, in some states, and it's just so crazy. But I really do think that we're going in a good direction. And more and more people are saying enough is enough, because it's just everyone has a woman in their life, and whether they want to admit it or not, like, it's happening in every, every way.
- [104:00]
Megyn Kelly
Well, thanks to you. You and others like you who have found your voice and used it. Peyton, all the best. Thank you so much for being here.
- [104:08]
Peyton McNabb
Thank you. And thank you for. For telling my story from the beginning. Like, I've never really had the opportunity to thank you for that, so thank you so much.
- [104:16]
Megyn Kelly
Aww. This is my honor. I'm sorry that it happened to you, but I'm super glad with what you've done with it. Thank you. You a heroine. Peyton McNabb, everybody. See you soon. Thanks for listening to the Megyn Kelly show. No bs, no agenda, and no fear.