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Sham Political NYC Sentencing, and Trump and Obama Laugh While Kamala Snubbed, with Viva Frei and Jesse Kelly | Ep. 980
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Megyn Kelly begins the show by discussing the breaking news of Trump's sentencing in the NYC business records trial, Trump’s "unconditional discharge," the decision by the court to release the audio, the political goal in all of this to label Trump a "convicted felon," and more. Then attorney and Rumble host Viva Frei joins to discuss the corruption and political bias in the justice system, the Supreme Court’s failure to intervene, how Democrats could use the "felon" status against Trump as he takes office, and more. Then Jesse Kelly, host of The Jesse Kelly Show, joins to talk about LA mayor Karen Bass refusing to take accountability after the horrifying wildfires, the bizarre focus on gender and sexuality by LA Fire Department leadership, the consequences of focus on diversity and DEI, Obama and Trump laughing and chatting together at Jimmy Carter's funeral, how it shows the claims Trump is a threat to democracy and dangerous were all a false narrative, Kamala Harris getting snub...
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Megyn Kelly
Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show, live on Sirius XM channel 111, every weekday at noon East. Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show and Happy Friday. Well, the Democrats finally got what they wanted, or so they think. Donald Trump is now officially a, quote, convicted felon. He's also our next president, so you should probably include that term in your celebratory smashes of the football on the left. I mean, great. And by the way, one of the reasons he is going to be our next president is because of all this nonsensical lawfare. So go ahead. I think it's the ultimate Pyrrhic victory. In a New York City courtroom this morning, Judge Juan Merchan handed down the sentence of an unconditional discharge to President Trump. This means no jail time or any other punishment, and many believe the conviction will eventually be thrown out on appeal. It will be thrown out at an appeal. Mark my words. It's going to be thrown out on appeal. It actually stands a very decent chance of being thrown out by the New York Appellate Court right above this guy Marshawn. And I believe the New York State Court of Appeals like this is eventually going away. So enjoy it while you can. You can say convicted felon right after you refer to him as Mr. President, and it will be a limited period of months, and then it will get reversed and so will that label. And you helped get him elected. So with this law, fair, I, I hope that makes you feel good at night. Like, I'm not exactly sure why the Democrats feel so smug about this. None of this stopped the prosecutor on of Donald Trump in the New York State supreme case, Joshua Steinglass from droning on. This man is ridiculous about just how terrible of a man he thinks Donald Trump is. Watch.
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Joshua Steinglass
The defendant's conduct before, during, and after this trial also merits consideration. Instead of preserving, protecting, and defending our constitutionally established system of criminal justice, the defendant, the once and future President of the United States, has engaged in a coordinated campaign to undermine its legitimacy. Far from expressing any kind of remorse for his criminal conduct, the defendant has purposefully bred disdain for our judicial institutions and the rule of law. Such threats are designed to have a chilling effect, to intimidate those who have the responsibility to enforce our laws. Put simply, this defendant has caused enduring damage to public perception of the criminal justice system and has placed officers of the court in harm's way. Sentencing the defendant permits this court to enter judgment to cement the defendant's status as a convicted felon.
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Megyn Kelly
And that's what it was all about. The nerve of this guy to say it's Donald Trump who caused damage to the institution, to the court, to the justice system, with his reaction to this case. The absolute nerve. Talk about putting the cart before the horse. You, sir, are to blame for all of that. You, Donald Trump, called it out for the joke, the absolute insulting joke of a proceeding that it was. You caused the lack of trust in an institution that had been mostly previously respected. Even President Biden, when he pardoned his son Hunter, called out how he doesn't trust the justice system. So please, spare me. This whole thing was rushed to sentencing by a judge who was determined to be able to call Trump a convicted felon for that reason only. Because it's been about politics from the start. These losers wrapping themselves in sanctimony. Alvin Bragg was out there. You know, the, the will of the jury must be, must be heard, must be done. We, you know, who am I to interfere with the jury process? The judge, too. Like, we just, you know, we're just like public service servants who have to do what the jury said. Otherwise it'd be a real insult. Give me a break. You two orchestrated this from the beginning. You've been working hand in hand to make sure you could just get this label on him. You wanted it so much earlier. I know, sweethearts. It was so important. You desperately wanted it earlier so that maybe it could affect the election. But you failed. You got your conviction. No one gave a shit. Even the left wing media recognized that this case was a joke. So you failed utterly in doing anything other than creating sympathy for Donald Trump and making yourselves look like idiots. And then rather than just saying, like, let's walk it back, we've had enough embarrassment. You rushed to try to get this declaration as though it was going to be meaningful. And it's. It means nothing other than you've additionally irritated the next president. Let's see how that works out for you. I look forward to watching it, frankly. And it probably created more sympathy for, for many people in looking at Trump, seeing how unfair this is. You know, you got CNN's top legal analysts saying this whole thing is unconstitutional. These charges are probably unconstitutional. Okay, so it's not going well for you, Mr. Steinglass, or for you, Judge Merchan, in addition to making this sentencing hearing happen, which didn't have to, and Steinglass and his boss, Alvin Bragg, pursuing it all the way up to the Supreme Court because Trump tried to stop the sentencing, saying for the same reasons, you can't try a president for official Acts because he's immune thanks to that Supreme Court ruling. You can't come after a president elect like this and make him sit for sentencing. He's got other things he's got to do for the nation. And ultimately the US Supreme Court said in a ruling, no, we're going to let this play out. The harm to you is minimal. It was Amy Conovera and Chief Justice Roberts who did not side with the four other conservatives costing Trump that decision. She's getting more and more like Roberts every day, and that's not a good thing in any event. So he had to sit for it and he had to be sentenced. But, but that's why they wanted it so desperately today. There was no reason. Judge Rashawn had said, I'm not going to impose jail time. Like he telegraphed. It's basically I'm just going to slap him on the wrist. The whole point of doing this was so that we can call him a convicted felon. We really, really work so hard to be able to call him a convicted felon. So that's what we're going to do. So, okay, you got, you got it. Now, President Trump was allowed to appear over zoom, which is unusual. That's great. Thank you for accommodating the next President of the United States. He's down there meeting with Zuckerberg and Bill Gates, all of whom have come in and bent the knee. Do it good. Jeff Bezos left his prostitute looking wife for two minutes, or soon to be, to go over and bend the knee. Have you seen the pictures of this woman down in Saint Bar? I'm sorry, she dresses like a prostitute. They're all bending the knee for Donald Trump. So he's busy. Judge Mershawn. He doesn't have a whole lot of shit ton of time to deal with you and your political theater, but he appeared via zoom. And then the judge did something he hasn't done before in this whole process, adding to the theater, which was he released the audio. That's how we just got to hear Steinglass. None of this thing was on camera or on audio. Remember, we didn't get to hear audio of Stormy Daniels. We saw the sketch artist painting of her and she took the stand. But today, Judge Merchan really, you know, he waxed poetic about the case from the bench. And I think he knew he was going to say something truly profound that America would want to hear. And maybe they'd want to hear Steinglass talk about what a shit Trump is and what like a really important case this was and how how poorly the justice system has been treated by Trump. So they released the audio. Meantime, that included the audio of Donald Trump, who was participating in the whole thing from Florida, where he said that he is completely innocent and that this case was a political witch hunt from the start. Watch. It's been a political witch hunt. It was done to damage my reputation so that I'd lose the election.
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Viva Fry
And obviously that didn't work.
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Megyn Kelly
I'm totally innocent. I did nothing wrong. They talked about business records and the.
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Viva Fry
Business records were extremely accurately counted. I had nothing to do with them.
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Megyn Kelly
Any of that was done by an accountant.
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Viva Fry
This has been a weaponization of government.
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Megyn Kelly
They call it warfare. Never happened to any extent like this, but never happened in our country before. And I just like to explain that I was treated very, very unfairly. Judge Merchan, who, again, you know, he could have done this. Not at all. He could have done this with no audio, but any. Or he could have done this if necessary after Trump's presidency, but no. Rushed it on. He could have given the evil Trump who interfered with an election. That's his stinglass said that's he made this from a stupid business records case in which he wrote down legal expenses for money he gave to a lawyer to make a nasty complainant go away. That sounds like a legal expense to me. They turned it from a business records case into a hush money case into a federal election interference case, one that the feds refused to bring. He could have given him up to four years in prison. That's serious business. You interfere with an election, the scheme that he was actually accused of, lying to the American public, committing fraud so that they wouldn't know what they were electing. It was all lies. All of it was freaking lies. So. But if you follow their logic, he deserved four years in prison. Right. So why did we have a DA go in there and say, I consent that there should be no prison time? Because they had to. They had to in order to get this thing beheld before the inauguration because they knew Trump would appeal it. And one of the reasons the Supreme Court said, we're not going to hear this right now, we're kind of not interested. Trump can take this case up on appeal, by the way. It's going to be reversed. They didn't say that, but I'm sure it will be. One of the reasons the Supreme Court said, we're not going to take it right now, there's no urgency, is because they said, look, the judge is telegraphing he's not getting any jail time. So we don't need to get involved yet. So that's why the prosecutor and the judge were both like, there'll be no prison time. Please let us hold our hearing in which we get to label him. We want the big CF label. Don't interfere. Okay, so he could have given it four years in prison. He said in advance he wouldn't, and he didn't. And he. He said he was distinguishing between Trump the citizen and Trump the President.
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Joshua Steinglass
To be clear, the protections afforded the office of the President are not a mitigating factor. They do not reduce the seriousness. Seriousness of the crime or justify its commission in any way. The protections are, however, a legal mandate.
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Megyn Kelly
Which, pursuant to the rule of law.
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Joshua Steinglass
This court must respect and follow. This court has determined that the only lawful sentence that permits entry of a judgment of conviction without encroaching upon the.
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Megyn Kelly
Highest office in the land is an.
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Joshua Steinglass
Unconditional discharge, which the New York State Legislature has determined is a lawful and permissible sentence for the crime of falsifying.
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Megyn Kelly
Business records in the first degree.
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Joshua Steinglass
Therefore, at this time, I impose that sentence to cover all 34 counts.
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Megyn Kelly
Sir, I wish you Godspeed as you assume your second term in office. Please.
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Joshua Steinglass
Thank you.
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Megyn Kelly
Fuck you. Sorry. Give me a break. I wish you Godspeed bullshit. This is such a farce. Joining me now to react to all of this is attorney and rumble host Viva Fry. Selling a car privately can be a real headache. Endless negotiations, paperwork, hassles. But there's a better way to get your unused car off your hands for 30 years. Cars for kids, that's cars with a K, has perfected the car donation process to make it truly effortless. They will take your car, in any condition, running or not, and turn it into funds for kids in need, plus a tax deduction for you. On top of it all, it takes just two minutes on the phone or at cars with a k4kids.org MK to donate, and they will take over from there. Getting your car picked up as soon as the next day. You will receive a vacation voucher and minimum tax deduction, while supporting proven programs that help kids reach their full potential. With over a million successful donations over three decades, Cars for Kids continues to be a trusted partner for car donors across the country. It's free, it's convenient, and it's easy. Call 1-877-KARS4KIDS. That's K A R S the number 4KIDS. Or donate online at KarsForKids. That's with the number, the numeral for cars. F with the number with the numeral for kids.org mk to donate your car today. Viva. Great to have you today. This is just so outrageous, is it not?
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Joshua Steinglass
It's when you appreciate what they did and they took a 30, they turned what would otherwise been a misdemeanor bookkeeping error, a time bar misdemeanor, into a 34 count felony charge indictment conviction to then give an unconditional discharge just so that they could call him a convicted felon. It was a scam from the beginning. The judge, the only reason he gave the unconditional discharges because any other sanction would have been obviously immediately appealed or unenforceable because Trump takes office in a week and a half and so they get that header. The only question now is these scoundrels, what do they do with it? Do they go for an impeachment 3.0 now that they actually have a crime to claim is the high crime and misdemeanor to go impeach them a third time. But it's corruption of the highest order and you pointed it out, the audacity of them to accuse Trump of being the one who discredited the legal system. These people are Darvo narcissists, deny attack, reverse victim and offender, the victimizers pretending to be the victims and pretending that the victim is the one who caused the distrust in the system when it's everything that they have done from day one to make people realize the legal system, at least in New York is so corrupt, you got to get your stuff and pack up and leave because there's nobody is safe in New York.
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Megyn Kelly
First of all, I love how you pronounce misdemeanor misdemeanor like it's a contestant in one of Trump's beauty contests.
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Joshua Steinglass
A misdemeanor sounds like that sounds like I'm misgendering the misdemeanor.
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Megyn Kelly
No, but misdemeanor sounds like a, like a feminist demeanor. Contestants.
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Joshua Steinglass
I think it's the Quebec way of doing it, but it was a time barred misdemeanor at worst. And they don't even know what they predicated the felony predicate acts on. Like you asked the jury, what did you convict him on? I don't know. He bookkeeping error. How did you bump it up to a felony? Yeah, but when the judge said you don't even have to identify which of the underlying felonies this predicate act was based on, you know that you're dealing with an outcome driven process and not a justice driven process. I just thought that that judge, in as much as he's an idiot, a totally corrupt hack whose daughter worth mentioning every time we talk about him. His daughter was fundraising off of this prosecution. That discredits the system. But I thought he had a little bit more savvy to say, all right, after the Supreme Court came down and said, you can't admit evidence that is a juice from presidential acts, he would say, okay, I've got to vacate the verdict and blame the Supreme Court.
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Megyn Kelly
No, he definitely did that without a question.
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Joshua Steinglass
And in his ruling, he says, look, none of the evidence related to presidential acts because it was all in furtherance of a private act of fraud. Bull crap. But even if it were, he says the error would be harmless because of the overwhelming evidence of guilt. I mean, this is like, this is communist level. Find me the man, I will find you the crime. Presumption of guilt, not innocence. But I thought he would have the good sense to say, okay, I can vacate this verdict, save my own face on appeal, cuz it will get overturned on appeal. I agree with you on that. And blame the Supreme Court. No, he went full throttle. And Amy Coney Barrett, the turncoat that Robert Barnes on our show Sunday night warned about, she was the turncoat. And they say because this corrupt hack of a judge undertook informally not to impose a prison sentence, we'll go ahead and allow the sentencing. He could have given Trump money in that sentence. And they should not have allowed the judge to proceed with the sentencing.
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Megyn Kelly
The Supreme Court should have stepped in here to say, this is not going to happen. We just issued a ruling on presidential immunity. We just issued a ruling saying that you can't even use evidence of a president's official conduct against him in a criminal trial, which was definitely done in this case. And we are staying this proceeding until we are able to handle the appeal or until post presidency. Until post presidency, in which case it can follow the normal course.
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Joshua Steinglass
Yeah, and not just that also. And shame on you, Merchant, for not respecting our Supreme Court ruling. This is a Supreme Court, at least with Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett, who have no respect for their own rulings, they've made that, you know, public. Now they issued a ruling, it said, you know, presumpt presidential immunity for core constitutional acts, presumption of immunity for in the middle acts, and no immunity for personal acts. But you cannot adduce as evidence evidence that was adduced as presidential conduct, which correspondence with chief of staff and press secretary obviously was on its face. And so what they basically said is, we have no respect for our rulings either. Go ahead, Marshall, and take A judicial dump on our ruling and go ahead with your sentencing because you've undertaken not to jail him, will let you do it. They have discredited themselves. And we see, unfortunately, the true colors of Amy Coney Barrett.
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Megyn Kelly
I'm worried about her. She's a little squishy. And it's concerning, I'll tell you, just as a female who leans right, kind of sick of the female conservatives who get appointed to the supreme court. Sandra Day O'Connor, now Amy Coney being too squishy. Why can't we just get like this Judge Aileen Cannon down in Florida, get a female Alito on there, get somebody with some, you know, rhetorical balls who will hold as, as fiercely to conservative principles in the judiciary as the left wing does, as Elena Kagan does to the liberal principles. Why are the women so squishy when they get up there on the right?
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Joshua Steinglass
Well, Roberts is squishy as well, so who knows how he identifies. But, but the bottom line. And she's also, she's young. She's there for a long time. But you imagine the rationale. They said, yeah, we issued this ruling that the evidence was inadmissible. If, but because the judge announced his intention not to jail, we'll let him go through a sentencing. No, the judge desecrated. Yeah, the judge desecrated the ruling of the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court said, we don't really care. That's what it's worth. And now you get your convicted felon title so you can do Lord knows what with. I, I do wonder if that's an interesting.
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Megyn Kelly
Okay, let's talk about that. You, you raise an interesting point, as you always do. Viva. You know, is it, is it more than just the label or do you think the next move. Because here we are, what, January 10th, we got 10 days away until the inauguration. Do you think they actually do try yet another maneuver of insurrectionist or. I don't know what they're going to say, but, you know, they've, they've done a lot of legal gymnastics to try to get him and stop him from taking the oath.
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Joshua Steinglass
Well, Megan, remember the legal gymnastics back in impeachment 1.0? That was the quid pro quo where Democrat, left leaning, lawless lawyers and members of Congress said, we don't even need a crime to impeach. It's a purely political process. We can impeach him for the color of his tie. And that was to get around the fact that there was no crime committed. With that quid pro quo conversation second time. Yeah. The perfect phone call. There was no crime there. And so they had to say, well, impeachment, sure, it says for other high crimes and misdemeanors, but it's a political process. He doesn't actually have to commit a crime. That's what they said in 1.0. In 2.0, for the insurrection, they then had, at least on its face, on paper, a crime. Now they have a confirmed crime, a convicted felon. So now they don't have to make the argument, oh, it's not a political process. This is now a judicial one. We've got the convicted felon status, so we can go for impeachment 3.0, because we can now point to the actual crime upon which this impeachment 3.0 might be based. They are that stupid and that kamikaze reckless in their pursuit of opposing Trump. Jamie Raskin, who was infamously caught on that mic saying, we might have to declare civil war conditions when we disqualify Trump because of the insurrection clause. Well, Supreme Court came down 90 and said, no, you can't do that. So let's find another way to do it. Either impeach him before he takes office or impeach him right after he takes office. I don't think there's the political will to do it or the public support to tolerate it, but they're doing something. You're dealing with scoundrel scheme artists. And the only question is, what are they scheming about now behind closed doors? This is one, you know, one indication of what they could do with this convicted felon. Because I think it is a little bit more than just the title for.
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Megyn Kelly
The next 10 days, because, I mean, they don't control the House and they're not going to control the House. They didn't before and they don't in the new Congress. So they can't impeach him. They don't have the votes to impeach him, and they certainly don't now. They don't control the Senate either, so they're not gonna be able to. Even in some weird world in which the House lost its mind and impeach Trump, they could never get a conviction. So I don't know that the move is political in the body of Congress or if there's some legal maneuver in a court they still think they could pull off.
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Joshua Steinglass
That was another thing. I'm wondering when Ratzkin comes out and says, we gotta disqualify him for insurrection, maybe they're going to try something to. They had to certify the electoral college results because they didn't get the conviction in time for that. Maybe they try to disqualify him now for being a convicted felon. I mean, it's settled law. But settled law has never stopped them from trying. So they're definitely going to try something else. The only question is what? And for the.
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Megyn Kelly
In the meantime, can we talk about on this front, they are trying to get the Jack Smith report of just how bad Trump was. You know, he's, he's, he owes this report to Joe Biden or to Merrick Garland. And Trump has so far successfully stopped that report from getting released. He's like, these cases have been dismissed, so just stop. But there is some saber rattling that he's going to submit it and we're going like that. Now you're back in the insurrection lane.
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Viva Fry
Yep.
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Megyn Kelly
And you know, a possible legal challenge on. Oh, no, no, no. Just because the case got thrown out doesn't mean he's not an insurrectionist who is not capable of taking office.
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Joshua Steinglass
Well, especially since the impeachment process, you know, it doesn't require a conviction of a high crime. It just requires one to have allegedly have been committed. And so they say, oh, sure, it got tossed at the court level, but this report shows insurrection behavior. It's so preposterous and unlawful and lawless that they want to release portions of a report that was produced in the context of charges that should never have been brought, that themselves were predicated on evidence that was falsified by the FBI that raided with authorization to use lethal force. The former president and leading presidential candidate at the time. This is, I don't know if it's. Communist is the right word, but it is lawlessness of the highest order. The people who need to be behind bars and need to be tried, convicted and jailed, or the Jack Smiths of the world, or the Merrick Garlands of the world, or the mayorkas, just because I dislike him as well. But are the rascals of the world, the ones who publicly announce after a fair trial they would get in any realm of a lawful universe, convicted. But Jack Smith, the hired mercenary who was unlawfully appointed from the get go, citizen Jack Smith, now wants to release portions of a report because Merrick Garland says it's the interest of the public's best interest to see portions of a report that was prepared in a bogus lawless prosecution. Garland is a criminal as well. In my humble opinion, no defamation. I believe the man is a criminal and he's deliberately trying to undermine justice and Doing everything he can to lay whatever groundwork they can do to either frustrate, attempt another impeachment. Hey, go a third time. They broke the glass once and twice. They've turned the impeachment process into Halloween candy. Just go for a third time.
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Megyn Kelly
What's to lose? I mean, unless they're gonna use that Jack Smith report, if they get their hands on it to again say he's an insurrectionist and therefore shouldn't be allowed to take the oath of office, then it's utterly pointless. Then we're back in the land of. What are you doing? You lost, he won. The president.
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Joshua Steinglass
Burning it down.
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Megyn Kelly
No one does it now.
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Joshua Steinglass
But they're trying to burn it down so they can rule over the ashes or at least piss on the ashes. The only silver lining in drawing our attention back to the report and January 6th is it's a reminder that Trump takes office on January 20th. The first thing he does is pardon all of the Jan Sixers. Pardon all of them. They made a mockery of impeachment process. Joe Biden has desecrated the pardon process. You'll pardon the actual victims of lawfare and political persecution, but no, they are a group of people. They will pop the ball if they don't like the fact that they're losing the game and storm off the field.
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Megyn Kelly
Let's go back to just for one more minute, this warning by this judge, because we're gonna hear a lot more about this. Sorry. By this prosecutor. That he's mad that Trump is remorseless. I mean, it's just absurd. He's really. He's talking about him. I heard Trey Gowdy saying this. Who's a criminal prosecutor now? A Fox News anchor saying. He was talking about him like, he's like. They're weighing the death penalty. You know, he's shown no remorse for his crimes. You're on. It's like, okay, this is a misdemeanor business records case. Stop it. And Trump has maintained his innocence, which is real from the beginning. He's no remorse for the people he's hurt. Who, again, who are those people? Then. Then going on to. He's spread disdain for our institutions and the rule of law. He's caused enduring damage to public perception of the criminal justice system. I mean, the gall. Viva. The gall of these guys to put that on Trump.
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Joshua Steinglass
Megan, it's confession through projection, is they are accusing their adversaries of what they are guilty of, either for creating confusion or for just projecting off their own guilt. Audacity. You know what takes what is compromising the judge's daughter working, raising money for Kamala Harris. Democrat PACs Adam Schiff off of this prosecution. Tens of millions. Judge Juan Marchand. You know, she's talking about her dad having disdain for Trump and his use of social media. It's just confession through projection. There's no other way to describe it. But they get out there and they get the sound bites out there. So your joy reads the views of the world can run with the sound bites. Can you imagine what did Trump do that violated or undermined anything as relates to the Constitution? Exercise freedom of speech to raise awareness of the corruption of the court system. They gagged Trump in the context of this case to prevent him from raising awareness for the corruption and then fault him for talking about the judge's family. Well, maybe if the judge's family wasn't intimately involved with this entire prosecution process, he wouldn't be talking about the judge's family. Family. And so they fault the victim for raising awareness of the corruption. But this will get overturned. I think it does go nowhere. And people see it for what it is, but it's just. It's a wholesale desecration of the, of one of the pillars of a civilized society, which is why, you know, New York is turning into a place where everyone should pull their assets, pull their investments. And don't drive through when you're driving from Montreal to Florida.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah. I mean, it's not only, of course, this prosecution against him, but the civil case brought by Letitia James for, you know, now cost Trump half a billion dollars, which is currently being laughed out of the appellate courts. I mean, that. I don't. I think when all is said and done, absolutely none of these will stand. Fannie Willis got bounced. Jack Smith was forced to. To dismiss both of his federal cases against Trump. The New York case is what it is. We've discussed that for the last half hour. And then there's the Tish James civil case against him. The E. Jean Carroll thing, unfortunately, isn't going anywhere. That one's going to stand. I think the James one is going away.
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Joshua Steinglass
They might reduce the quantum on the. The Eugene Carroll case, but you want to talk about undermining the faith in the judicial system you have. I call him colloquially New York Nipple. Judge Engoron, the guy who's posting topless selfies on his website page. It's horrendous. Where he's bragging about the orders that he's issuing against Eric Trump. Trump, where he's on record on video 10 years ago talking about the tools that he has at his disposal to come to the judicial findings that fit with his preconceived biases. I mean, but what's amazing is in as much as Trump in 2016 revealed the insidiousness of the corruption of mainstream media and the fake news, he has done so as well in revealing the wholesale weaponization of all levels of prosecution, Department of Justice, court systems of certain states. The real question is he gets into office, he's got to right some of these wrongs and re establish some faith in the system. And he's got to pick the proper course of action to make that happen.
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Megyn Kelly
I can't wait to see what he does. A word before I let you go. I as you say, Juan Merchant, properly, I'm reminded that you're from Canada. Og not now, French Canada. Yeah, so, yeah. So you're, you know, you've got a connection up there. And what do you make of Justin Trudeau finally waving the white flag flag and admitting everyone hates him and he has to step down?
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Joshua Steinglass
Well, he's, he's announced his intention to step down. Pro rogue parliament. So there's no government in session until March 24th. They're going to hold internal leadership races to find his replacement. I'm like, I've said it before, I've too little too late. But better late than never. I, I made a joke, you know, sort of when I put out an update after that happened. It's like imagine being so hated that everyone on earth is happy that you're resigning or announced your intention to resign. Except perhaps your ex wife who might have to spend more time with you now as you're out of office. Everybody hates the man, even people within his own party and especially people within his own party. So it is too little too late. The replacement will probably be, you know, new boss will be just as bad as the old. And the devil we know is probably, you know, going to be maybe even less bad than the devil we don't his replacements. Christopher Freeland, who is Ukraine first board of trustees of the wef would be no better, probably worse as a leader. Mark Carney, another globalist WEF stooge, probably no better. But it's an indication that the Liberal Party is in freefall. Internal fighting is always fun to see when it's the other side. And good riddance to bad rubbish when it comes to Justin Trudeau. He truly will go down as the darkest stain on Canadian history. Close, close glee. Followed by his father, Pierre Elliott.
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Megyn Kelly
You know, it's funny because when I sometimes when you see these people in the news go, whether it's like a news anchor being fired or a leader falling, you know, normally you have like a mixed emotion where you think goodbye. But come on, I'm kind of gonna miss criticizing them, you know, like, is this is how I felt when Stelter got fired from cnn?
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Joshua Steinglass
I was just, I was gonna say him in particular, I was gonna say Stel. I kind of felt bad for him. You know, he's an innocent looking potato head.
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Megyn Kelly
Well, I didn't feel bad for him, but I was gonna, I felt bad for me because I wasn't gonna be having his editorial to rip on. But then they brought him back, so it's great. But anyway, with Trudeau, I don't feel like that I'm like, get rid of him. He's such a pernicious, terrible force. Even our, our friends up north who voted for him, even those people do not deserve him.
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Joshua Steinglass
They voted for him. Not, not once. I believe it was thrice. But he's really, it's indescribable how destructive a force he has been for Canada. And he was bad before COVID And then Covid really released the inner tyrant. Censorship, division, identity politics, full on tyranny with government responses to Covid. He's a very, very bad man and he will be remembered as such. The only problem is his replacement will probably be no better. So we gotta hope for, you know, it's going to be a conservative majority government, whether you like Pierre Polieva or not. I'm just hoping that some people from my party that I ran for, the People's Party of Canada, can get some seats into Parliament to have some meaningful opposition voices and some good common sense, that is nationalists in the good sense of protecting Canada and having Canada come first, not Canada come second, third and fourth to a variety of other international globalist interests.
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Megyn Kelly
Well, if not, it could come 51st. As our, as our latest state, says President Trump, he has to keep paying $2 billion to it.
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Joshua Steinglass
He'll have to make four states out of it. He'll have to have the Maritimes, he'll have to have French Canada in Quebec be a separate state. They're going to want to separate Ontario, the liberal state, and then you have Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, which would be sort of the Texas, Texas affiliate states. But it'd have to be more than otherwise.
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Megyn Kelly
We're just, it's just like adding, you know, one of these left wing groups that they get, like making D.C. estates so that they can have two more senators on the left. We don't need that. We got enough problems. Viva, Pleasure as always, Megan.
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Joshua Steinglass
Thank you very much for having me.
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Megyn Kelly
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Jesse Kelly
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Joshua Steinglass
I will Never apologize for standing up for an LGB. LGT LBT, LGBTQ2+ and what do you.
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Jesse Kelly
And your family do to cut back on plastics?
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Joshua Steinglass
We. We have recently switched to drinking water bottles out of water out of. When we have water bottles out of a plastic. Sorry, away from plastic, towards paper, like drink box, water bottles sort of things. I actually never take selfies. Everyone else takes selfies.
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Viva Fry
I don't take selfies.
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Megyn Kelly
Maternal love is the love that's going to change the future of mankind. So we'd like you to.
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Viva Fry
We like to say people kind, not necessarily mankind.
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Joshua Steinglass
If people want to wear a mask, that is okay. It prevents you from breathing or speaking moistly on them. What a terrible image. I appreciate calling it makeup, but it was blackface.
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Megyn Kelly
Have you since been made aware or remembered of other instances and if so, how many?
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Joshua Steinglass
I am wary of being definitive about this. It is exactly the example of the kinds of things you need to do to counter the SHE session and turn.
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Viva Fry
It into a SHE coverage.
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Joshua Steinglass
I will never apologize for standing up for an LGBT. LGT LBT, LGBTQ2 +.
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Megyn Kelly
Bye, Justin. Well, we will miss you a little. The she session and turn it into a she covery. That's a real person who exists and was running Canada. I mean, currently is running Canada. Welcome back to the Megyn Kelly Show. Unbelievable. Back here, we have our own absurd leaders, as you know. Just take a look at California right now. The LA fires continue to rage on and the failure of Mayor Karen Bass is becoming more and more obvious by the day. She's refusing to take any accountability for the devastation. I mean, none. Plus President Trump chatting it up and laughing with former President Obama at President Carter's funeral yesterday. Did you see this tape? It went everywhere. It's very, very telling. Hitler's so funny. He's hilarious. Hitler's just a barrel of laughs. We're going to get to it all with my next guest. Jesse Kelly is here. Here. He's host of the Jesse Kelly show and also I'm Right, which you can find@YouTube.com Jessy KellyDC Jesse, welcome back. Great to have you.
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Viva Fry
It's great to be here, Megan. Thank you for that barrel of laughs watching Justin Trudeau just man our friends up north. Congratulations. You finally get to be rid of that turd.
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Megyn Kelly
You know, it's like the people who say it's her story instead of history. He's one of those guys. This is not one of your guys, Jesse, who you'd be having a beer with.
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Viva Fry
No. You know what's funny, Megan? It's funny. And it's also sad. As you mentioned, when you were laughing about it, you mentioned. And that's the guy who was running Canada, and then you pointed to our own leaders and LA and things like that. I think at least. At least for me, I think we do this thing that's very, very natural and that we look at these absurd people and we assume, yeah, they're ridiculous, they're dumb, they're absurd, they're commies, they're all these things. But we assume if the beep hits the fan, that at least truly there are competent people around them. There are people who will figure it out. If it gets bad, if there's a wildfire, if there's a this, if there is that, surely they have someone they can turn to. Yeah, that guy's like a caricature, but surely there's someone. But the truth is that's not true. That's not true at all. The worst, dumbest, most despicable people in the world now run every aspect of Western society. And it's frightening when you think about it. So we don't think about it. We lie to ourselves and tell ourselves that there are competent people there. There aren't.
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Megyn Kelly
There aren't.
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Viva Fry
We're in a lot of trouble.
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Megyn Kelly
The situation in LA and the leadership vacuum is becoming more and more apparent every day. So you have Gavin Newsom on camera when asked, hey, what about the fact that the fire hydrants didn't have any water in them? Says, oh, you know, the local leaders, they're going to comment on that. The local leaders respond to that. The local leaders were in Ghana. Or we now find out the deputy mayor was on leave for allegedly calling in a fake bomb threat. So the. Those are the local leaders, Jesse. Nowhere to be found. And you know what was happening at the fire department, where we now we know that the top three leaders in charge look more like a cabal of Smith attendees than tough, grizzled firemen ready to put out fires. I mean, every single. I think everybody in the LAFD management is a lesbian who is bragging about her lesbianism and really, really proud of her short haircut and short stature and inability to rescue men from burning buildings.
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Viva Fry
Yeah, and not even hot lesbians either, which is super disappointing.
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Megyn Kelly
No, not the lipstick.
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Viva Fry
This is what. Yes, this is what happens under Democrat rule. And that's kind of what I was alluding to earlier. There are real consequences in places like California, which I actually love. I know it's fashionable to dump on California, but it's just so beautiful. And I have so many friends up there. I just love it so much. It's paradise. And it breaks my heart what has happened to it. I don't enjoy watching beauty turn ugly. I don't enjoy watching it at all. But this is the consequence of voting Democrat. And people, legions of people in California, when they go out to cocktail parties, they get with friends. It's just what you do. Of course, you vote Democrat. Yeah, we voted Democrat. We voted for this Democrat. We voted for that Democrat. And it's just kind of always taught or thought of as this throwaway line. Yes, we vote blue. Ha ha ha. We're so Democrat. Well, if you do that for long enough, you will have these weapons grade morons take positions of power. Up and up and up and up and up the chain, and soon the entire chain is hot, stinky garbage. And you have one of the great cities in the United States of America put to the torch, and no one seems to be able to stop it. These are consequences that are downstream of the behavior of voters. It's really the point I keep trying to make over and over and over again. The consequences of neglecting your elections, of just. Just sitting it out. I'm not interested. I vote Democrat. Ha ha ha. Look how lib I am. Well, the consequences of that are. You wake up one morning in Los Angeles, looks like something out of a Mad Max film. That's what you get.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah, totally. On the subject of the fire chief, it's getting worse by the minute. So you've got the fire chief, who is in the first line of her bio touting her gayness and the fact that she's a woman. Okay. What? No one cares. And then you've got her second in command, who is named. Okay, so the first lady is Christina Crowley. She's the first LGBTQ fire chief. Salary 439,000plus. Then her second in command is Christina Kepner. The. This person, by the way. Then the person who's, I think, third in commander high up, is the first black. Okay, so second, let me just get it straight. Christina Crowley, first LGBTQ fire chief. Then under her is Christina Kepner, first elder, first lesbian assistant chief. Then under her is Christine Larson. They're all, Christina. Christina. She's also a lesbian. She's also. Everyone's a lesbian. I don't know why. And she's also black. And she's in charge of equity within the fda. I don't know why. And she also makes more than the assistant chief. She makes almost 400,000, 399,000. So these, they're making 4390-002650-00399,000. And what we get is Christina, Christina, Christina. Lesbian, lesbian, lesbian. Why, Jesse? You tell me why.
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Viva Fry
Well, because the object of this is an assault, a never ending, relentless assault on white men, White Christian men that has been institutionalized throughout the United States of America. America. And I don't know why it's controversial to talk about this at all. Corporate America, the education system, I mean, the government itself under Joe Biden has been very honest about this thing. You brought up the LA Fire Department. I'm sure you've played the videos on your show. I've been out of town, but I'm sure you've played them. I've seen them on social media. These people running ad campaigns, bragging about this is how many women we're going to hire, this is how many gays we're going to hire. This is. What would you do things like that. What you're announcing is we are taking a certain demographic and we are, we're just simply cutting them out of the equation. And beyond the rampant lesbianism, where apparently to find the leadership of the LA Fire Department, they went to the local softball team. Apparently they focused on hiring women as well as firefighters. Now I am as pro woman as anybody underneath the sun. But why are we focusing on women? This is a physical, brutal job that involves wearing a lot of weight, carrying a lot of weight, doing physical things. You see those dudes out there in LA hauling people out, hauling equipment. It's a brutally physical job. So why in the world would you focus on the person who's physically weaker? Well, the only reason you would do that is you're a psychopathic cultural Marxist interested in burning everything down. And you really don't care if Los Angeles burns as long as you get to hire you and all your lesbian friends for $499,000 a year. It's pathetic. And, and there are consequences to it. I keep coming back to this. We, we like to point at this stuff and we laugh. Megan, you laugh, I laugh. It's hysterical. When you what? Why do we need this? Why do we need that? We laugh, but downstream of that people die. That, that's the thing. There are real genuine consequences to setting aside merit and focusing on box checking and checking this. But she checked that box. We got enough gates. Have we got enough women? If it's we laugh and we even call it woke, I've been guilty of that before. I actually grown to hate that word because it really, it presents like, oh, they're just so goofy. They're kind of woke. It's not that it's freaking evil. It's discriminatory. It's evil, and people die because of it.
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Megyn Kelly
It's like the NBA having a DEI program where they're prioritizing short people. We don't have enough short people. We got and okay, without asking, why don't we have that many short people in the NBA? Right. Why don't we have more women in the fire department? There's a really good reason. Most of them cannot pass the test unless you lower the standards. Strapping 60 pound of gear on your back and then climbing up a ladder and then going into a house. And on top of all that, rescuing a grown man takes a lot of strength that most women, 99%, do not have. Or it's like a police department having a DEI program that prioritizes people in wheelchairs. Like, there is a reason why it's not a good fit. It doesn't mean you're discriminatory against or can't stand or hate people in wheelchairs or short people. It means it's not a good fit for this particular job. And while women probably great, equal, if not better in some cases than men at being an ems. Right. Can do all the life saving procedures that happen in a hospital or once you get the body out of the house, 100%, of course, let's be honest, of course they can do that. But why do we have to pretend, in the name of, you know, equity, whatever, that women are equal to men when it comes to actually doing the job of a firefighter? Whatever. All this is academic because we don't know whether it played any role. All we know is that the LAFD was very, very focused on DEI and hiring women and not so focused on the fire hydrants. But listen, I want to show you one thing. So the second woman, Christina Crowley, the first lgbtq. Sorry, there's Kristin Crowley, the chief, then Christina Kepner, the first lesbian assistant chief. It's just ridiculous. In this video of hers going viral where she was asked about the job and these potential problems in rescuing people who are much larger than your average woman. I don't know about whether they're average, whether they're bigger than Christina Kepner. Watch. You want to see somebody that responds to your house, your emergency, whether it's a medical call or a fire call that looks like you, it gives that person a little bit more ease knowing that somebody might understand their situation better. Is she strong enough to do this or you couldn't carry my husband out of a fire, which my response is he got himself in the wrong place. If I have to carry amount of a fire. Only about 5% of working firefighters are women. This is what they're calling attention to, by the way. Correction. That was one of the other Christines. That was Christine Larson, the first black lesbian equity bureau chief. She was basically saying, Jesse, if somebody like you finds himself in a fire f off, you're to blame.
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Viva Fry
Well, the religious zealots, as we talked about many times, Megan, and religious zealots will kill people and let people die on behalf of their religion. People in America have a hard time understanding that the far left radical types like that are. I mean, how many people would have to die for them to come around to your side? All of them. All of them. They are serving a cause they view as higher than putting out fires or the fire department or Los Angeles. And if people have to die because of it, it's no sweat off their back. And in fact, they put themselves on video bragging about it. It's really quite something.
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Megyn Kelly
It's amazing. You got the one who's like, I'm a woman and I'm gay. You're hired. And then the assistant, I'm a woman and I'm gay. Well, you're hired. Then you got this third person coming in saying, I'm a woman and I'm gay and I'm black. And that person will probably be the next chief. If they continue along the way they've been going, jesse Kelly stays with me. Don't go away. He's hosted the Jesse Kelly show. Check it out@YouTube.com don't go away.
- [51:00]
Jesse Kelly
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Megyn Kelly
Jesse the LA fire chief, the top Kristen female lesbian was on CBS News with Norah O'Donnell trying to defend this disaster that we're looking at out in California. And she was asked about the fact that the mayor cut 17 million from their budget, the fire department's budget and the fire chief herself had been jumping up and down about that earlier saying this is going to cost essential services. Now that the shit has hit the fan, she tried to engage in revisionism like huh, who? What? No. And to her credit, Norah O'Donnell followed up and here's what happened. Would that $17 million that had been cut from your budget have made a difference in this fight? I would say with the lean forward posture that we took, knowing that a $17 million cut we had to take from somewhere and that was from the non essential duties and responsibilities that as the fire department we have taken on over the past many, many years. But with all due respect, in December you had warned that the budget cuts would severely limit your ability to respond to large scale emergencies. Is that true or not? Yes. Yes. So I would say yes, we were limited to a certain factor. Yes. Do you believe that smarmy snake oil shit?
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Viva Fry
You know this is, this is part of what bothers me about a lot of things, Megan. But we can make this about la because that's what we're talking about here. The leaders in our society now, I mean so many of them, you see this all throughout the military whatnot. Where's the sense of pride and sense of duty? Where's, why do, why do none of these people ever resign? Why did none of these people ever own anything? I'm talking about mayors, I'm talking about fire chiefs, I'm talking about generals, I'm talking about CEOs, I'm talking. Where is the sense of honor? You know, if you, if you look back at what like, like World War II is actually a great example of this. How many commanders, generals and admirals resigned because they were sad about a battle or men they had lost? We had generals and admirals. Not that I'm encouraging this, killing themselves, committing suicide. They got so many letters. They were so sad about troops who died under their command. They felt such a heart that they just killed themselves. They couldn't live with the shame of it. We fought a 20 year GWAT war in Afghanistan and Iraq and nobody can name for Me, a single general or admiral who resigned in disgrace. Nobody, not one of them. It's just not even thought of anymore. And you see this in the wake of. Honestly, are we calling this a natural disaster, Megan? I think that's probably. Probably not true, to call it that. Well, let's just go with that for now, even though it's not true. This is the greatest natural disaster as far as property damage goes in the history of the United States of America. It's comparable to the Chicago Fire, I believe. And no one has resigned. And in fact, nobody has even shown contrition. Not mayors, not the fire chief. No one's even gone on the news and said, well, look, I own this. My heart is broken for my city. This is going to be on me. I'm going to get this cleaned up as best I can, and then I'm going to resign. The people deserve better. And in fact, the fact that I just said this, everyone's probably laughing right now because the thought of that is so ridiculous. But that's what leadership is, and that's what we used to have. But immediately. You just saw that hag there on television. She's turtling up. Got to protect Democrats, got to protect the brand. Can't ever. Everyone just tries to protect the system now instead of having any duty and honor. It drives me crazy.
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Megyn Kelly
I'm sorry, but you just listen to this woman. And I'm all for women in leadership positions. I used to know a Secret Service agent when I lived in Virginia, and she lived in my same development. She was like six foot two. She was strong. She was a badass. And I would hire that woman to protect President Trump, to work at the fire department to do any number of things that men can do. She's probably in the.05 percentage point when it comes to women and their physical abilities. I'm not saying it can never happen, but as a rule, it doesn't happen. As a rule, women are too weak for these particular jobs and should not have the standards lowered so that they can do them. This woman doesn't look strong. This woman, to be honest, I'm not trying to be mean, but she looks portly. She doesn't. She doesn't look in shape at all. Neither does that other woman who we showed the. The black lesbian Christine. She looks obese. These. These are firefighters. They're supposed to be in great shape. And. And that woman, the. The one who was like, well, that your husband. If I have to carry your husband out of a fire, he's done something wrong. Hello. That's your job. I. Would you. What are you saying? The fact that, like, everybody who finds themselves sitting in a burning house is not to blame for the fire? Yeah. What do you like? What a weird dodge. So you've got these out of shape, portly looking, short in some cases. The other woman looked tall. Lesbians who touted their sexuality running LAFD who won't take responsibility. Then you've got what is clearly a DEI higher mayor because you have so many Californians saying, I voted for her because I couldn't vote for the white guy over the black woman, Karen Bass. And here's what she was saying yesterday. No, they were like, oh, there's no way. I'm not voting for a white guy over a black woman. And so here she is after she finally got back from Ghana, where she did nothing. Why does the mayor of LA have to be in Ghana for the inauguration of an African prime minister? So she. She gets. Okay. She gets grilled. Yes. By CBS reporter John Vigliotti. I think he's local. And here's what she Sundays. Listen to South 13.
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Joshua Steinglass
My crew and I arrived shortly after it started, and for several hours we watched as hundreds of homes in a neighborhood burned to the ground. We did not see a single fire engine. You were out of the country at the time. My question to you is what. What explains this lack of preparation and rapid response?
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Megyn Kelly
Let me just say, first and foremost, my number one focus, and I think the focus of all of us here with one voice, is that we have to protect lives, we have to save lives, and we have to save homes. Rest assured that that.
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Viva Fry
Rest assured.
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Megyn Kelly
Let me finish. Rest assured. When that is done, when we are safe, when lives have been saved and homes have been saved, we will absolutely do an evaluation to look at what worked, what didn't work, and to correct or to hold accountable any body, department, individual, etc.
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Joshua Steinglass
Do you think your leadership was effective while responding to this disaster?
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Megyn Kelly
I just said what I believe believe is the most important thing for us to do right now. The answer is no, madam. And by the way, Jesse, so that's another. That's like. We'll create it like a commission at some point, and many months down the line, the commission will tell us whether any errors were made. You know, passive voice. She won't speak to it. And by the way, just to put the lie to what she's saying, Jesse, her head of waterworks, Janice Quinones, was already out there at least trying to say why the fire hydrants didn't have Water. It wasn't a satisfactory explanation, but at least she was speaking to it. So the notion that we must pretend one cannot engage in thought about how the problems that are stopping the fires from getting put out are happening, like you can't engage in any explanation of that right now while it's happening is bullshit. Her own administration is doing it. She just won't do it.
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Viva Fry
This is what they do. And this is what happens when you have a. A society that focuses on a bunch of things that don't matter at all. It's like if I was a runner or I was signing up to run a marathon and I never worked out, never ran, I just sat around eating pizzas and tacos the whole time, never worked out, no cardio at all. And then it comes time for race day, and I get up there and I say, I am extremely focused on running the race. I can't wait to run the race. I'm going to run as hard as I can. And looking back at any of the behavior I did leading up to this race is completely inappropriate because it's race day. No, it's extremely inappropriate. If one of the biggest cities, the second biggest city in the United States of America with all that wealth, all that infrastructure, somehow failed its citizens. And clearly it did in ways that entire neighborhoods are gone. We're not talking blocks or individual homes. Entire neighborhoods are gone. If the second biggest city in the United States of America failed and is currently failing its citizens that badly. No, no, no, no, no, no. Accountability starts now. Because you're exactly right, Megan. This is what the scumbags in the government, federal, state and local do all across this country. They try to wait until the anger dies down, because you and I both know. But about 48 hours from now, the fires will be gone, Lord willing, and everyone will be on their phones, hooked on whatever the newest outrage is, and people will move on. And then a month after that, they'll have a commission, they'll have an investigation where they will investigate themselves. And another month or two after that, they'll put something out there that'll get printed on page 45 of the LA Times saying, well, I mean, we're not going to name anyone individually, but clearly we have a couple of things we should do here and there. You know what? We probably need more money. And then that. That's the last anyone will ever hear of it. And you have all these people who've lost everything. And what I'm trying to get through to the American people is we have to start punishing the politicians who run us by taking their power away from them. There is no second option. But there's not.
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Megyn Kelly
They'll blame one woman and one woman only. And that woman is Santa Ana. That's the one. It was her fault and her fault alone. And definitely not the fault of Karen Bass or any one of these Kristens or Christines or Christinas trying to run the FD in Los Angeles. Here is, by the way, the fire chief on CBS responding to the criticism of the DEI thing. Has that effort at diversity been over your efforts in order to fight these fires? Because that's been the criticism. You know, it's out there. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Again, my number one priority is making sure that we can take care of the community that we took an oath to take care of. And with that is our ability to respond to emergency. Number one priority is to make sure that we provide 911 services, EMS and fire. Well, you didn't.
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Joshua Steinglass
But that's not true.
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Megyn Kelly
And by the way, what a lame question, right? Like where your DEI efforts at the expense of planning to fight fires. That's not. What do you think she's going to say? Right? And just one other point. She seems like, this is a woman I would expect to see when I go in for my parent child teacher conference, right? Like, kind of sweet, nice manner. Like, does that woman instill confidence in you as the person in charge of fighting this one of the most disastrous blazes the country has ever seen. She doesn't even seem like, I want somebody who looks grizzled, sounds grizzled, and is like, nora, I don't have time for this shit, but I'm going to give you my top five points in what we're doing. Goodbye.
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Viva Fry
Yeah, No, I want my fire chief to be some 60 year old man who has to put out his Marlboro Red before he goes on television to tell me about all the training he's got put in for his guys. But what she just said there is a lie. She lied the same way Karen Bass lied. She knows right now, now that they're under fire, she has to get up here and say, that's my number one priority. But again, back to my marathon analogy. That was not your number one priority. You've been on videotape discussing your priorities were we need to stuff more women and more LGBTQ Air Force types and all these people in the positions of power. That's been your number one priority leading up to the fire. And now that the fire's here and everyone's angry you know, you're supposed to go on television and say that's your number one priority. But that's not these people's number one priority. It never is. Their number one priority is pushing their sick demonic religion in every single part of this society. And if the, if society has to burn down, well, the revolution is all that matters. Revolution without end. As Mao always said, you always keep the revolution going. Doesn't matter how many planes fall from the sky or houses burn or wars we lose, you keep moving forward. And this is why the right has got to develop some teeth. We really have to sharpen our teeth a lot because the right has been in love with tolerance for the longest time. But we have to be nice. We're better than that. That's not who we are. That has been the language of nursery rhyme conservatism for my 43 years on the planet. No, these are evil, psychopathic, demonic children and they have to be put in their place in order to preserve a polite society. Otherwise you get to watch one of America's cities burn.
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Megyn Kelly
You watch the real life carnage. I mean, the aerials are just absolutely devastating.
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Viva Fry
Awful.
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Megyn Kelly
Palisades, Pacific Palisades. Looks like Gaza. Looks like Gaza now. I mean, it completely leveled. And you see some of the videos, I'm actually going to talk to you for a second about some of the celeb videos that have come out because it's, there's a couple who are really sweet and who I like and I, I just feel, I feel so bad. We talked to James woods, we talked to Adam Carolla who are still waiting to find out whether their houses are standing. But it's the real people who really tug at your heartstrings, you know what I mean? Like the non celebs who are like, holy shit. And this woman, Fran, this is actually tweeted out by JD Vance this morning. She's, her name is Fran, she's a resident of Altadena and she's speaking with Brian Enten of News Nation about what she's looking at as she gets back to see her house destroyed. Look at this.
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Joshua Steinglass
This is your house.
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Megyn Kelly
This was, this was my house. This one right here. We moved in 26 years ago and we did the floors and we put in windows and doors and painted and just put. My grandchildren loved it. My son and my daughter in law, my family, we hosted Christmas Eve and Christmas Day here and everybody was here. My little house that I loved, we poured everything into it. We have nowhere to go. We were close neighbors. Buzzing. Todd, his mom passed away and they took over the house. John just lost his wife that he adored, but was taking care of that house. She was a superior court judge. And Beverly and John, such so much love. She was so incredible. And the house is gone. They're all gone. See Debbie and us and Tina, our children went to school together from kindergarten. Our kids are in there, 47 years old. And Debbie's 47 year old son tragically passed away last August. Her grief is so deep, I can't imagine. It's awful. This, this incompetence costs lives. It costs lives in more ways than one.
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Viva Fry
It does. And your heart breaks because when you think about a home especially, I MEANT that lady, 26 years in that home. Think about all the memories. I'm, as you well know, Megan, we're friends. I'm not exactly the softest, cuddliest type, full of emotions, but I've moved my whole life. We lived in 10 houses in 10 years. That's just kind of how I grew up. We were always moving around. And to this day, when I move, whether I'm leaving an apartment or a house, I get, I mean, I don't get choked up, but I have to take a moment and say goodbye because you're looking at it. That's the living room where I play Legos with my sons, right? That's the, that's the kitchen where I come home and harass my wife while she's making dinner. That's that.
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Megyn Kelly
You, you.
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Viva Fry
There are so many memories that are, that are built into those walls. And I mean, that's one story, right? We have the video of it. How many stories like that are out of Los Angeles? And I just, I don't want to beat it. I don't want to beat a dead horse. But I keep coming back to, these are the consequences of voting Democrat. They really genuinely are. You vote, Democrats lose.
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Megyn Kelly
You know, they didn't. You know, it's like, not that it's a comfort to see the liberals lose their houses, but, you know, at least you'd have the peace of mind of saying, at least I didn't vote for this. At least maybe if my guy had gotten in there, we would have stood a fighting chance. At least others might finally see the light here. I will say this one actor, I don't know what his political stripes are. I've interviewed him a couple times on NBC. I really like this, this actor and this guy, his name is Milo Ventimiglia and he was, for the Gilmore Girls fans he played in that. And then he became the Star of this Is Us, a huge NBC hit show in which they tell you up front, like the beginning of the series, that his character, the dad, his name is Jack, dies. And so then the series goes on, and you fall in love with Jack, and you, the whole time you're watching the series, fall in love with the family. You're like, well, how did Jack die? Like, what? Why is Jack no longer here? You can see, like, future versions of the children, older, and they talk about missing dad. Then you have the flashbacks to the scenes with Milo and Jack's alive. You're like, anyway, the whole thing is around Jack and how did he die? And then the big reveal. Spoiler alert. This has been out for many years. So is that Jack died when a slow cooker caught fire in the family home that now you've seen five seasons of. By the time you find this out, it's just terrible. It was like a devastating moment in TV history when you found this out. Anyway, this is a good guy. His house burned down in. In real life this week, and here he is on camera speaking to CBS News about it.
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Joshua Steinglass
You were aware the house was gone. What's it like to then stand here heavy?
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Megyn Kelly
You know, you start thinking about. Man hits you so quick. You start thinking about all the memories in the different parts of the house and whatnot. And then you see your neighbor's houses and everything kind of around, and your heart just breaks.
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Viva Fry
He and his wife evacuated on Tuesday.
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Joshua Steinglass
Watched on security cameras as the flames took over.
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Megyn Kelly
I think there's a kind of shock moment where you going, oh, this is real and this is happening. And then at a certain point, we just turn it off. It's like, what good is it to continue watching? You know, we kind of accepted the loss.
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Joshua Steinglass
We got good friends, and we got.
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Megyn Kelly
Good people we're working with, and we'll make do.
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Viva Fry
Yeah, we'll make do.
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Megyn Kelly
Wife and baby and dog. Most important, he has another baby as a baby due any day now. He was talking about how they had just decorated the nursery. You know, it doesn't matter whether you have money or you don't have money. The loss of your home and everything in it and all the memories you made already and were building is real, and it's profound. And, like, I just can't tolerate the. You know, after I'm done saving all the lives, then you can question me. First of all, you were in damn Ghana. And that's the other thing, Jesse. Now the reporting's coming out from Breitbart, from Jim Garrity. At National Review, she knew Karen Bass had been warned. For days. The National Weather Service was jumping up and down saying severe fire warning. We are going to have massive fires in la. The Santa Ana winds are at epic levels. It's not safe. And what did she do? And that was the Friday before, the Saturday before where she heard them and got on a plane to Ghana. It's not like going to Seattle from la. She went to Ghana Sunday the same. She didn't come back early Monday the same. She didn't come back early Tuesday as her city burned. Finally she comes back Wednesday and she wants credit in her sound bite for I took the fastest route home.
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Viva Fry
Well, she's certainly not going to postpone a cross world trip to Ghana for a little thing like her city. Megan, I mean, I've said this for the longest time about politicians. Most of these people become politicians because they want access to the things rich people have without having the ability to actually acquire wealth. So they take positions of power and then they blood suck off the taxpayer. They do this all the time, these mayors. She's not even alone in this. These mayors, small town mayors will do this. Oh, no. We're on a fact finding mission in Madrid this week. Of course the taxpayer pays. These dirt balls in Congress do it all the time. You just saw Dome, sorry, Kamala Harris. They've got like 15 minutes left in the White House. She has no responsibilities and never had any whatsoever. But she's going on around the world trip, one final vacation on the taxpayer dime to Singapore and all these other beautiful places. What's she doing? Is it some sort of critical diplomacy? No, she's living it up because she finally has that taxpayer funded credit card and it always clears. And that's what they do. That's why these people take, that's why they even want to be politicians. Because otherwise being a politician would suck. You have to ask people for money all the time. People are always mad at you, screaming at you. So why would you take the job? You take the job because you want access to the things wealthy people have. But you're a dirt ball with no talent, so you can't get those things. Except for running for office.
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Megyn Kelly
It's very funny, I had not actually heard the Jesse Kelly explanation of that, but it makes a lot of sense. Explains a lot of things. All right, speaking of Kamala Harris, let's lighten it up a minute. Lighten it up with the funeral of Jimmy Carter. So he's sad when somebody passes, but he was 100 years old. I mean, you know, he had a long, fruitful life. The most interesting dynamic was in the audience, right? Was in the audience as all these former presidents took their seats with their wives and the dynamics between them. And since we were talking about Kamala Harris, we'll start with this as we are going to get to the Trump and Obama moment, which I'll show separately. But Kamala appears to be looking back at those two. Trump and Obama, yucking it up. And she does not look happy. All right, like, here she is, she's looking forward next to Doug Imhoff. She can see the two of them talking. She turns back, it looks like a deep sigh. Looks down. She's like, what in the actual f. Look at her. Look at her. What do you think is going through that thought bubble, Jesse Kelly?
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Viva Fry
Well, I think Kamala Harris, who is. I mean, this is saying a lot. Maybe the most nakedly ambitious politician I've ever seen her entire career, it's just been one endless ladder climb. Say anything, do anything, take any position on any issue in order to get the next thing. So that's the kind of person we're dealing with here. Well, what happened? The dynamics are Barack Obama was the one who engineered the coup. He was the one who engineered the coup to get Joe Biden out of the White House. And not only did he engineer the couple to get Joe Biden out of the White House, he's the one who vouched for Kamala Harris with his vast donor network. Billionaire after billionaire after billionaire. He knifed Joe Biden in the ribs, shoved him out the back of the White House, and then picked up the phone and organized $1.5 billion with a B to be given to Kamala Harris for her campaign, where she proceeded to not only embarrass herself the entire time, she embarrassed him. When you vouch for somebody with a bunch of billionaires and they flame out as badly as she flames out, well, he is not going to do that again. And without Barack Obama, without Daddy Barack harrying her, Kamala Harris is never, ever, ever, ever, ever going to be able to launch a significant presidential run again in her life. Will she run again in the 2028 primary? Of course she will. But she'll get the 1 to 2% before she has to embarrassingly drop out the exact same way she did last time before Daddy Barack brought her. Now, think about all that. When you think about Kamala Harris looking over her shoulder back at Barack Obama. You know, I wouldn't put it past Trump to get to say a little bit too loudly How'd she work out for you? Or in the very least, if he didn't say it, I bet you Kamala Harris is thinking he said it.
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Megyn Kelly
That's a very interesting point I haven't heard anybody else make about how she. What does her future look like without the full throated backing of Barack Obama, who definitely, you're right, has realized what an inept politician she was. Apparently had some hesitancy about her being the nominee anyway, but realized this is where this train is going, but now has lived it for, you know, firsthand, the way we all had to. So, yeah, her, you know, so much has fallen apart for Kamala Harris. She reached too high, too fast and failed upward. Okay. But the more interesting thing is what she's seeing behind her, what those two guys are doing behind her. And before we zero in on the muckety mucking that's happening between Obama and Trump, I want people to remember what former President Obama was saying about Trump, literally, in October, okay? Three months ago. Listen here. Sat 22.
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Viva Fry
He acts so crazy, and it's become so common that people no longer take it seriously. I'm here to explain to you.
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Megyn Kelly
Just because he acts goofy does not mean his presidency wouldn't be dangerous.
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Viva Fry
And you do not have to take.
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Megyn Kelly
My word for it.
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Viva Fry
Lately, some of the people who know Donald Trump best have been saying in no uncertain terms that he should not be president again. The other day, General John Kelly, Donald Trump's former chief of staff, said that Trump told him he wanted his generals.
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Megyn Kelly
To be like Hitler's generals.
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Viva Fry
Now don't.
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Megyn Kelly
Boom, vote. So he wants Hitler's generals to take over, and he's genuinely dangerous. Cut to yesterday. And the two of them, there they are chatting. Barack's laughing, genuinely laughing to where, like, his body is shaking. Hitler's so funny, Jesse. Hitler's quite charming when you spend time with him one on one.
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Viva Fry
Well, you know who should be mad about that? But they won't be. But who should be mad about that are the little drones who vote Democrat every single time. Because these people lie to your face all the time. None of these people think Trump is actually Hitler or a Nazi or a white supremacist. And before Donald Trump started running for president, he was a lifelong Democrat who was chumming up with these people at every single cocktail party out there. And they all loved him. They had Chuck Schumer, all these guys, they all loved him. They all talked to him. And Trump is an insanely charming and, yes, very funny individual. And they were all laughing at his jokes and they know exactly who he is. But then when election season comes up, they know they have to ramp up the mindless drones into an endless panic that Hitler is the Hitler's coming back. And so they stand up and they tell people, Hitler's coming, Hitler's coming, Hitler's coming. And you have all these single women on anti anxiety meds freaking out, oh my gosh, the world's gonna end. And then as soon as the election's over, they go yuck it up and talk about the meat lovers pizza they're gonna share that night. I'd be mad if my politicians lied to me all the time like that. I get mad when the GOP lies to me, which they do routinely. So maybe Democrats should do the same.
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Megyn Kelly
Here is one drone who is upset about all the warnings that this was Hitler and his takeaway is not. They they said he was Hitler and it was a lie. His takeaway is he is Hitler. And why is no one talking about how I am now going to be protected before I play this sound bite? The guy's name is Anand, Anand Giridartis. He's an nyu, I think, adjunct professor at the journalism school. Watch.
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Viva Fry
What a shock.
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Joshua Steinglass
I think people may be wrong to pick the proxy fight of Obama should not laugh at a joke. But I think we have to take seriously the emotion of feeling undefended. This administration rightly warned throughout the last year that Donald Trump represented the singular authoritarian threat to America. Have we been provided by this White House in its last weeks any practical guidance for how to live under what it claimed was fascism around the corner? That I am being warned and told that the apocalypse is near, but in actual ways, I am not defended by anybody.
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Megyn Kelly
I need practical guidance and I need to be defended. Can you imagine being a man and speaking like that?
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Viva Fry
Yeah, well, that's how that's. I mean, you're half a man if you vote Democrat anyway, but. And I don't understand that mentality anyway, Megan, if somebody told me that I couldn't go on the lawn, my front lawn, because there were landmines on the lawn, and then I turn around and that person was walking around the lawn drinking a cup of coffee, I would think that person is a horrific liar who perhaps didn't have my best interests at heart. Yet these people get lied to repeatedly and all they do, maybe it's a Democrat thing, is bend over and say, thank you, sir. May I have another? I don't understand that way of thinking. I can't relate to it at all. But whatever have a miserable life. Sick freaks.
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Megyn Kelly
Anon, you really shouldn't be teaching this shit to journalism students in particular that you need the government to protect you from the Hitler who just won reelection. Like this is the message, I guess, to the incoming class of journalists, which means we're going to have a lot more of what we have had. I will say this in defense of male Democrats, the normal ones who are not woke or evil, whatever we're calling the wokesters these days. They have all sorts of reasons why. I understand they vote for Democrats and I know and love a lot of them. But I do think if you're looking around at this world as it stands now and thinking that you're getting better policies and better results with all Democrat rule, whether it's a place like Canada or it's a place like California, you're blind. You're blind. It's not that you deserve to have your home burned down, but you are going to get a lot more just like that if you continue voting against your own self interest to make yourself feel like a better person. Jesse Kelly, you're a better person. It's a. Well, that's why it's always a pleasure talking to you. Always learn something and always get a different pov. Thanks for being here.
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Viva Fry
Appreciate you, Megan.
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Megyn Kelly
All right, we're going to get to a little bit more news when we come back right after this. Don't go away.
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Jesse Kelly
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Megyn Kelly
Offer details Apply a couple of other important stories to get to do you remember the day last year when Joe Biden reversed Title 9 with a wave of his magic administrative wand, where he took a statute that was passed by Congress to protect girls and women in sport and with the magic wand, completely gutted it. Just saying, you know, oh, all it is is an administrative rule enforcing Title ix. That's all we did. It's just like this is just guidance on how we're going to enforce it. But really what he did was completely gut the entire statute by saying, Title IX no longer just applied to girls and women. It applies to boys and men pretending to be girls and women. I mean, it completely stood the rule on its head because one of the main fights the. No, the main fight that's happening under Title IX right now for the protection of girls and women is to keep men pretending to be us out of our sports and our sports facilities in our private spaces in school. And this affects K through college. Well, Joe Biden thought he knew better. Joe Biden, who's having tranny show up on the White House lawn and show off their fake tits. Sorry, Thought he would, he would do better on this than the US Congress, which had duly passed the law and decided. Or someone pretending to be the Weekend at Bernie's president, pushed through this rule change, which completely undermined the rule of law and the principles behind it. And it was a before and after moment for me personally, because it was this first time I've ever come out on the air in public and said, who I voted for in an election. I had never done that. And frankly, it started a path that got me ultimately, speaking for Trump the night before the election. You know, once I had crossed that line, it wasn't so hard to cross the next line to say, like, and this is who I'm voting for in the next election and why I think you should vote as I do. And so, like, this Title IX thing is very deep and personal to me and to most women I know and most dads, not just women, men too, who have daughters in the system and who are worried about this issue. So just as a flashback. Here is the day it came out. We had thrown out our show and decided to just talk about this abomination. And here's what happened. It must be undone. Do not comply. The rules don't take effect until August. Don't comply. Don't use their language. Protect your daughters, fight. Protect your sons. Speak up. Don't comply. Don't comply. Don't let your child play the play the pronoun game. Don't you play it. This is going to be taken up. They're not going to get away with this. And indeed, now that was April, in January of 2025. It has been taken up and the rule has been struck down nationwide. The rule is dead. God bless the judge who did it and the states who brought the lawsuit. State after state after state joined together to say absolutely not. They want you to believe Trump is lawless. Trump has made a mockery of the justice system that Joe Biden tried to rewrite the definition of women without a single lawmaker weighing in. You know, never mind that it's God's decision and it's been rendered. He tried to do this behind closed doors and just say it was all about equity and you were a bigot if you disagreed. Well, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, Virginia, West Virginia joined together and said no, we are filing legal challenges to this absolute nonsense. And one of those lawsuits that they all joined in on led to this decision yesterday, on Thursday, that the rule had already been temporarily blocked in 26 states as a result of these more red states joining together. But now it's officially stopped. It's been definitively ruled against thanks to a judge named Danny C. Reeves, R E E V E S of the Eastern District of Kentucky in a 15 page opinion which just excoriates Miguel Cardona and the Department of Education for trying to do this, saying you may not lawfully expand the definition of Title 9 to prohibit discrimination based on gender identity as opposed to sex, which is the governing standard, which means male or female, female are protected by Title IX and expanding it to people who identify as female guts the rule. That's what the judge found. The entire point, he wrote of Title ix, is to prevent discrimination based on sex. Throwing gender identity into the mix eviscerates the statute and renders it largely meaningless. Right on. Right on. Reading more here from the New York Times write up of the decision citing the courts, the high the Supreme Court's sweeping decision in loper Bright Enterprises vs Raimondo last year which limited the regulatory power of federal agencies. Remember we talked about this, how the Supreme Court ruled last term, the days of, like letting these administrative agencies, also known as the deep state, to have this sweeping sort of legislative power that nobody voted that they could have, are over this sort of Chevron deference, as it was known. We're not doing that anymore. You don't. These are unelected bureaucrats. They don't get to gut federal legislation because, you know, finger in the air. All the times have changed. We think men are women now. No, that's not the way it works. So continuing here, citing the court sweeping decision which limited the regulatory power of federal agencies, Judge Reeves wrote that the Biden administration had overstepped when it sought to enforce its new interpretation of Title 9 through federal rulemaking. But more significantly, the judge also rejected. Listen up, this is important to you. The revised rule on free speech grounds. Okay? So it wasn't just you don't have the power to legislate. You're a bunch of unelected bureaucrats. That was a part of it. But equally important was the First Amendment piece of the ruling, which affects all of us when it comes to these ridiculous preferred pronouns that are being forced down our throats. Not just in the Title 9 context, not just you will call him her and let him play softball against your daughter, but in the work context, in every context. State after state, including New York, including Connecticut, are trying to make it amount to statutorily either under the civil rights laws or for civil liability purposes. Hostile work environment. If you don't call the he's a she. At their request, they're trying to mandate the preferred pronoun thing into mandatory pronouns in order to be equitable and kind. And they don't care that you're eliminating. You're erasing women and girls and doing it well. No more. Not according to this judge. And we'll see whether this goes up. Good luck. I hope you do appeal it. I hope in the time Joe Biden has left, they file an appeal of this. Because I'd love to see this reinforced by the Supreme Court. It already really was in 303 creative. It really already was. You remember that case where the woman refused to do the wedding website for the gay couple and they came out and said, this is free speech. She's allowed to say, I don't stand for this, I don't support this. Okay, they say, this is the time's write up. More significantly, the judge also rejected the revised rule on free speech grounds, writing that it, quote, offends the First Amendment by potentially requiring educators to use names and pronouns associated with a student's chosen gender identity. Not just the pronouns, but the names, the names, the new fake names that these schools are suddenly. Oh, okay, Joe is suddenly Georgina, and we're gonna have to go along with that. No. If you're a teacher who says, I don't believe in that, I'm a Christian. My God tells me he doesn't make mistakes. He doesn't make a boy secretly a girl, I'm not doing that. You're protected under this ruling so long as it doesn't get reversed. And it's not going to. Don't worry. Put simply, the First Amendment does not permit the government to chill speech or compel affirmance of a belief with which the speaker disagrees in this manner. Yes. Yes. Right on, Judge Reeves. Right on. Here's some more. The court goes on to say the court remains persuaded that the final rule offends the First Amendment for the reasons explained earlier in, in a prior memorandum. To recap briefly, the final rules, definitions of sex discrimination and sex based harassment combined with the Dominic, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Let's see. Require Title 9 recipients, including teachers, to use names and pronouns associated with a student's asserted gender identity. While the department insists that this is not necessarily the case, the new subjective harassment standard that need only limit participation in an educational program or activity quite clearly compels this result. So that's them saying, you can't say that this is not really happening. You're making teachers engage in this fallacy and they shouldn't be. You can't compel them to do that. Now, look, this is a federal district ruling, federal district court. That's not the Supreme Court. That's two tiers down from the Supreme Court. But this decision had such weight in gutting the actual rule that no one's disputing it has nationwide effect that the, that the Title IX rule is officially done as Joe Biden tried to revise it. And now what we have to see is whether it gets appealed, whether that ruling gets appealed. And here's the really interesting thing. In 10 days, Donald Trump is going to be the president. Hallelujah. And what, what are the odds that his DOJ appeals this? I don't think any, I don't think they will appeal it even, even just to get it to the Supreme Court right now. I don't think they do that. This ruling stands and it will be used by many other plaintiffs and other courts who are trying to challenge mandatory pronouns like this. And that's a plus. That's a benefit. And over the next four years or plus. Right. Like anybody who tries to file a challenge, trying to force these pronouns down our throats or tries to redefine the definition of women and girls does so at great risk with this Supreme Court rulings like this, one after the other getting on the books. And don't forget, we're already waiting for a ruling from this Supreme Court that's related in this lane. So my point is simply that the lawfare, same as the lawfare against Trump, is failing for the left. The ACLU is failing in its attempts to make boys, girls legally and to make the rest of us pretend we agree with that. And the Supreme Court, I think, is weeks or months away from doing the same. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God, thank God, thank God. Thank God for these lawyers, these attorneys general who went in there and did what was right. Thank God for the presidents who have appointed rational judges who understand the law and not identity politics as a filter through which they view the law. And thank God President Trump won, because when he gets in there, he is going to undo the Biden changes to Title IX anyway. Let's not forget there's a lot of problems with that law. He not only completely effed over women and girls, he also effed over young men on college campuses. Remember, by completely lowering the standards by which they can be accused and convicted of being sexual assaulters or harassers and thrown off campus, President Trump's gonna restore all of those protections, all of them. He's gonna restore due process in Title ix, and he's going to actually change the wording of the rule officially back to what it was. But this is just one small area. He's going, there's no more. There's not gonna be any more pressure or guidance from the federal government guaranteed that it's a hostile work environment. If you choose not to say somebody's preferred pronouns, all that shit is ending. These are, I think, in most people's minds, the minor victories of Trump. You know, like, most importantly, let's get the criminal killers out of our country who crossed the border illegally. That's. Yes, that's number one. We're gonna be seeing all that on day one. You know, let's make America great again. Let's restore economic prosperity for all groups across all spectrums, irrespective of race and identity and all that stuff. But this is big, too, and there are a bunch of us who've been fighting for these changes. The list is too long. So many great women and men But I'm just thinking of so many women who have devoted themselves to this issue over the past 10 plus years and the legal eagles who have been devoting themselves, including Alliance Defending Freedom, which is involved in this, these attorney generals who have made the difference here. And by the way, those of you who make donations to these groups, you know the Independent Women's Forum, they've been amazing adf amazing to try to get the funding for these lawsuits that we can get these right rulings to protect our daughters. What's happening? So man alive, that's great news, is it not? I'm thrilled about that. All right. By the way, let me know your thoughts. You can email me Megan e g y nagyankelly.com and while I have you, go to megankelly.com today and sign up for our once a week email from me. And it's basically we call it the American News minute. So you get all the news of the week in one minute or less. 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