The Megyn Kelly Show — Episode 1244

Date: February 3, 2026
Host: Megyn Kelly, SiriusXM
Main Guests: Rich Lowry, Charles C.W. Cooke, Jim Fitzgerald, Randy Sutton

Overview

This episode of The Megyn Kelly Show opens with a breaking and deeply troubling news story: the presumed kidnapping of Nancy Guthrie, mother of Today show host Savannah Guthrie, from her Arizona home. The first half is an in-depth, forensic discussion about the ongoing investigation, possible motives, and implications, featuring commentary from law enforcement and criminal profiling experts. The second half pivots to sharp commentary on Don Lemon’s controversial church protest arrest, reactions from the media (notably The View), and the legal substance behind press freedom versus criminal behavior. Pop culture and politics also get a satirical Megyn Kelly treatment, including high-profile celebrities’ virtue signaling at the Grammys, and recent legal developments in immigration law.

Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping: Shocking New Details

[00:58 – 50:18]

Facts of the Case

• Nancy Guthrie, mother of Savannah Guthrie, is missing from her Arizona home in what authorities deem a possible kidnapping.
• Blood was found inside and leading from the house to the driveway.
• As of the episode’s recording, DNA evidence from tested items matches Nancy and no one else.
  • Jim Fitzgerald (02:30): “…[W]e were hopeful that it wouldn’t, that it would give us a different profile than just hers. But that’s where we’re at with the DNA.”
• Nancy's medication is vital for her survival; family and law enforcement plead with the abductor for her release.

Law Enforcement & Forensics

• Sheriff Chris Nanos withheld confirmation about the blood, though multiple media reports cited law enforcement sources.
• Search Operations: Physical search, drones, helicopters, heat signatures (all negative indicating victim removed far from property).
• Key Investigation Tools:
  • Apple Watch and pacemaker were separated around 2am Sunday, indicating Nancy was taken then.
  • FBI involvement: cell tower triangulation, DNA forensics, surveillance/video review.
  • Neighborhood: Elderly, remote, few streetlights—suggesting limited witness opportunity.

Expert Analysis & Profiling

• Victimology (Jim Fitzgerald, 15:37): Low-risk, infirm elderly woman; broadened to include threats to Savannah herself.
• Suspect Vetting: Immediate circle, in-home service workers, repair personnel, and contacts—all must be scrutinized.
• Forensics: Hope for touch DNA, use of advanced FBI resources, extensive cell and video data collection.
• Motive Discussion: Money (possible ransom), revenge, or personal grudge; sex crime not to be ruled out entirely.
• Geographic & Border Concerns: Only an hour from the Mexican border; possibility of cross-border criminal tactics.

Notable Quotes

• Sheriff’s plea (04:17):

  Fitzgerald: “Just call us. Let her go. Just call us... Her meds are vital. I can't stress that enough.”

• Randy Sutton (19:24):

  “...stranger abductions are very, very rare. So this is a massive investigation and there's going to be a lot of play here.”

• Megyn Kelly (26:50):

  "As time ticks by, the chances of survival are diminishing literally by the hour."

Memorable Moment

• On Security Cameras — First law enforcement findings lacked crucial video evidence:

  Megyn Kelly (43:53): “He said... I'm hoping that we can find the data on the cloud, but... there is no cloud database for these cameras.”

2. Don Lemon’s Church Arrest: Grand Jury, Media Spin, and Free Speech Realities

[54:29 – 76:23]

The Don Lemon Incident

• Don Lemon indicted for his role in a church protest that disrupted a service.
• Megyn and her guests contrast the media’s handling of Lemon’s case vs. Trump’s indictments, pointing out hypocrisy:
  • Ana Navarro (55:08): Defends Lemon, claims racism, slams grand jury as political—then is shown in contradiction praising the grand jury system against Trump.
  • Rich Lowry (56:51):

    “He was indicted because he has likely committed a crime...And the First Amendment's not this special badge you get to hold up as a member of the press...”

• Lemon's conduct inside the church—refusing to leave as ordered by the pastor, continuing to “document” the protest despite requests.

Media Hypocrisy & The Law

• Panel lampoons the “journalist privilege” argument as legally moot:
  • Charlie Cook (61:00):

    “If you're going to look at the First Amendment in Don Lemon's case ... you also have to look at it on the other side…The reason the FACE act … was passed, was to deal with circumstances in which the First Amendment rights of churchgoers are being violated by protesters.”

• Lemon’s subsequent national interviews are ridiculed as self-aggrandizing and detached from reality.
• Analogy to "trespass": Reporters are not magical beings—press freedom does not equal criminal immunity.

Notable Exchange

• Megyn Kelly (73:50):

  “Who among us would not leave a church if we were asked by a priest or pastor to leave?”

• Rich Lowry (74:04):

  “It’s reprehensible.”

3. Immigration Law & Judicial Activism: Temp Protected Status, Haiti, and Judicial Overreach

[76:55 – 90:41]

• Recent federal court ruling blocks the Trump administration attempt to remove the temporary protected status for Haitian migrants.
• Megyn, Rich Lowry, and Charlie Cook sharply criticize the ruling as lawless activism:
  • Charlie Cook (83:09):

    “Honestly one of the most unhinged things I've ever read from a judge to the point at which I initially thought it had been faked.”

• Larger pattern noted—activist judges legislate from the bench, treating executive authority as immutable when exercised by Democrats, intolerable if by Republicans.

4. Grammys Virtue Signaling: Celebrity Irony and Hypocrisy

[92:39 – 102:15]

Billie Eilish’s “Stolen Land” Speech

• Billie Eilish Quote (92:39):

  "No one is illegal on stolen land.”

• Megyn reports the local Tongva tribe expected Eilish to act on her words, noting her mansion sits on "their" land—none surrendered yet.

Celebrity Activism Mocked

• Jack Antonoff’s cluelessness about his own "F-ICE" pin, and Justin Bieber’s performative gestures, are lampooned.
• Panel jokes about the shallow, rote, “with everything going on” jargon among celebs:
  • Charlie Cook (99:40):

    “...they don't know what's going on. So they've just heard there's something bad and they say it's very hard to talk about anything else with everything that's going on…”

Memorable Quotes

• Jim Fitzgerald (17:59):

  “We always start with victimology. … To find out everyone who’s been in or near that house ... It seems like this was practice, some surveillance...”

• Randy Sutton (25:14):

  “We don’t believe in coincidences, and I don’t believe in that coincidence either.”

• Megyn Kelly (61:32):

  “The problem is, many of the people... have not actually watched what Don Lemon actually did inside that church.”

• Charlie Cook (74:40):

  “The First Amendment protects [even] a white supremacist church... You don't get to do bad things and then go on television and say, but the victims were mean.”

• Rich Lowry (94:40):

  “Stealing land is what human beings did almost throughout the entirety of our history, very much including Native Americans.”

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:58–50:18 — Guthrie kidnapping: Evidence, forensics, investigative theories
• 54:29–76:23 — Don Lemon’s church arrest: Legal analysis and media response
• 76:55–90:41 — Judicial activism in immigration law
• 92:39–102:15 — Grammy celebrities and “stolen land” platitudes

Final Thoughts & Tone

The tone throughout is no-nonsense, pointed, and at times darkly humorous—cutting through sentimentality or political correctness to demand accountability and realism, particularly from political leaders, law enforcement, and the media. The hosts and guests take pains to base their commentary on concrete law enforcement principles or legal precedent, reserving scorn for virtue-signaling, procedural hypocrisy, and media incoherence.

For listeners tracking the evolving Guthrie case, Megyn promises updates as the authorities’ press conference unfolds. For non-listeners, this episode provides a broad, critical snapshot of the intersection between criminal investigation, media spectacle, and contemporary political/cultural controversy.