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The Megyn Kelly Show
The NFL Coach-Reporter Scandal Explodes, and Blake Lively Wants $300 Million of "Mean Girl" Money, with Jesse Kelly and Zack Peter | Ep. 1303
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Megyn Kelly is joined by Jesse Kelly, host of "The Jesse Kelly Show," to discuss the latest twist in the scandal involving Mike Vrabel and Dianna Russini, newly-resurfaced 2020 photos which makes the timeline start years earlier, the relevance of Russini's son's name, resurfaced comments from Diana Russini trashing her husband, flirtatious behavior toward Mike Vrabel in interviews, why her job as a journalist matters to the story, allegations involving 79-year-old Congresswoman Alma Adams and an alleged "inappropriate relationship" with a female staffer, and more. Then Zack Peter, host of “No Filter with Zack Peter,” joins to discuss Lauren Sanchez Bezos bragging about gratitude and happiness in a new New York Times profile, why it comes off as tone-deaf given her extreme wealth with billionaire husband Jeff Bezos, Blake Lively alleging a “mean girl” smear campaign against her is worth $300 million in damages, what's likely to happen at next month's Justin Baldoni trial, a resurfac...
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Megyn Kelly
Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at noon East. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show and Happy Friday. We made it. And we're plugging through April as well. I mean, May is right around the corner. It's kind of hard to believe. We have a great, great Friday show for you today. Zach Peter will be here later. We never found the lady. I love Zach Peter. He's going to be here with the latest in all the news and culture. And there is a lot of it, including what's going on with the Blake Lively Justin Baldoni case. She just had to submit a filing in court about her alleged damages and it's quite the whopper. Wait until you hear more. And we are going to get into the wild story about the New England Patriots coach Mike Vrabel and his relationship with a reporter who resigned from the New York Times's the Athletic, like an arm of the Times. We touched on this yesterday and I was saying, why do I know about this? Like, why is this a national story? Like, it seems like a personal matter. I get that she got fired or was forced out. Whatever she claimed she just resigned because she was covering him. And if she was having an affair with him, that's, that's a compromise of your ethics. But for him, you know, it's a matter between this guy and his wife. Why is he taking time off from the Patriots having to do all these press conferences. Well, things got a lot more explosive when we got off the air and yet now I'm very into it and I'm ready to talk about it. And it seems like these two are a couple of sociopaths. That's as good a place as any is to start this show. We're going to bring in our our pal Jesse Kelly. He is host of the Jesse Kelly show on the Megyn Kelly Channel, SiriusXM111. Listen to it every weekday at 6pm Eastern Time and go subscribe on YouTube and at Jesse Kelly D.C. here's a question for you. How many brokers does it take to insure your business? If you're like most business owners, the answer is too many. Multiple policies, multiple applications, and no clear view of how it all fits together. And when questions come up, it's not easy to get the clarity you need at all. No one's there for you. But super sure changes that. A one stop shop for for all of your business insurance, backed by a team that works with you year round, not just at renewal. You are not a burden to them. They will take care of you. They want you to be happy. And if you've ever stared at a policy wondering what it actually covers, super sure has a fine print facts tool that translates the legal jargon into plain English so you know what's covered and what's not. It's not some shell game that they seem to be enjoying playing at your expense right now. You can go to super sure.com and get a full report on your current policies with no obligation. Find out if you're overinsured, underinsured, or somewhere in between. Go to super sure.com one super agency. One powerful platform. All your policies in one place. Imagine it. Go to super sure.commegan today. That's super sure.commegan. paid for by Super Sure Insurance Agency, LLC, a licensed insurance agency. JK what's happening?
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Jesse Kelly
Megan? I'm so ready for this weekend. It's been such a wild, wild week with all these news stories and scandals and we got soldiers getting arrested for. It's just, it's been a crazy week. It's one of those times I'm ready for the weekend. I'm gonna check out and not pay attention to any whatsoever.
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Megyn Kelly
Relate. Me too. Me too. Sometimes the news is like cathartic, cathartic for me to do it. I always say it's kind of like my counseling to come out here. And sometimes it's like, oh, Iran. Why? Every day Trump's poll numbers the disastrous fractioning on the right, like, this isn't fun to cover. It was much more fun when the Democrats were falling apart. Now the right is falling apart, and that's existential for the United States.
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Jesse Kelly
Yeah. Look, everybody has a honeymoon phase after they win an election, right? I mean, you know how that goes. You have all the political capital in the world. Everybody, every part of the coalition is happy. It's just the way it works. And then once you know it works, when you get home from Hawaii, when the honeymoon's over and she has to scrub the toilets and he has to work overtime to make ends meet, and stress piles up and the bills pile up, is you're not in Hawaii anymore. Same thing happens in politics after, you know, you win an election. Everyone's happy. Eventually, the different parts of the coalition who have different wants and needs and desires, they.
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Narrator/Commercial Announcer
They're.
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Jesse Kelly
They want those things. And if they don't feel like they're getting those things, they're going to be upset and they're going to get loud about it.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah, yeah. That's where we are. But thankfully, today, the news cycle is more enjoyable. I have to be honest, I was actually really enjoying the prep for today's show. And it is interesting to me because I. Yes, literally 24 hours ago, less than I was like, who cares about this story of this New England Patriots coach and this reporter? Seems like a private matter, whatever. But it actually has gotten so huge, like, the number of people who have said they wanted to hear us cover up, I'm like, okay. And people on my staff who are like, I can't. I can't get enough of it. I think it's because it's touching on, like, some very basic human themes. No one. No one likes infidelity, and no one likes lying, repeated lying. Obviously, if you're in an affair, you're lying to your spouse, you know, your partner. But this lying went well beyond that and now may have crossed over into what looks like diabolical, like, serial pathology amongst both parties involved. And so let's just set it up for the audience. Have you been following it?
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Jesse Kelly
I've been doing the best I can to avoid it like the plague, but it is so big, you cannot avoid it. So following it. No, it's not following me.
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Megyn Kelly
It's so true. I agree with that fully. And it caught me here I am now, 24 hours later, ready to discuss it, really. The. The baby news is what did it for me, but I'll get to that. I want to put the cart before the horse so she is a reporter who was with ESPN for a number of years and he is the head coach of the New England Patriots. But he was the head coach of. What's the other team?
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Jesse Kelly
Tennessee Titans.
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Megyn Kelly
Tennessee Titans. Thank you, Tennessee Titans. So. So he moved from one to the other and she's been covering him for quite some time in that role. Now, what happened here is that a couple of weeks ago, April 7, it came out reported by page six of the New York Post that they were spotted at this tony little resort in Sedona, Arizona, a boutique resort set against the breathtaking Brinz Mesa mountain range, where a Page Six spy reported that they had breakfast on the patio of the hotel restaurant around 10:30 in the morning on Saturday, March 28th. All right, now I just want people to picture like you find out your spouse is with another member of the opposite sex at 10:30am on Saturday at a Like lovers retreat in Sedona. Already it's bad if I see Doug standing there holding the hands of some woman, never mind embracing, as this picture shows in the in the foothills of Sedona at 10:30 on a Saturday morning. We're going to have a problem, he and I. He would never do that to me. Uh, okay. Then they spent a leisurely hour or so together at the pool, then lounging side by side in a hot tub. Jesse in a hot tub. Nothing good ever happens between a woman's spouse or a man's spouse and someone other than the spouse in a hot tub. And after having hand holding, embracing at 10:30 in the morning and then a leisurely hour at the pool, the spy from Page Six spotted them again that evening. Seems like a rather long business outing on the private rooftop of one of the hotel's bungalows. Roofs are only accessible, reports Page Six, from the two person bungalows, which cost up to $2,100 a night. So you can't get to the roof where they were spotted unless you are renting one of the two person bungalows. Photos show the two of them at sunset, weaving their fingers together as they stand face to face. The spy said they saw them briefly dance together. Jesse, you and I have been together in person quite a few times. We never danced together, never held hands, never embraced other than the initial, hey, good to see you. The tap embrace. They danced together. They insisted that they were. That they were there with friends. This is the defense. They simply were not visible in the pictures. The friends somehow managed to avoid the spies from Page Six and avoid all of the many photos that we are putting on the board now, a source close to Rossini. Her name is Diana Rossini. His name is Mike Vrabel. She's 43, he's 50. Said she was staying at the hotel during a hiking trip with two female pals. One of Rabel's pals told Page Six that they and the coach drove up to Sedona for the day with someone else, another friend, and they all drove back to their own hotel two hours away after hanging with Rossini and her gang that night. But three other eyewitnesses told us they did not see anyone else with Rabel or Rossini. We don't know what's true. That's how it first came out. And the coach told Page Six when the story was breaking. These photos show a completely innocent interaction. Any suggestion otherwise is laughable. This doesn't deserve any further response. Rossini told Page Six the photos don't represent the group of six people who are hanging out during the day. Like most journalists in the NFL, reporters interact with sources away from stadiums and other venues. The executive editor of the Athletic, which employs her, said these photos are misleading and lack essential context. These were public interactions in front of many people. Diana is a premier journalist covering the NFL and we're proud to have her at the Athletic. Well, no sooner did they issue that statement on April 7th than four days later the Athletic began an investigation into her. They began reviewing her coverage and her and said in the meantime, she's not going to be reporting while this investigation is underway. And three days after that, she resigned. She resigned, claiming, I've done nothing wrong. I've been the picture of professionalism. This media frenzy is hurtling forward without regard for the review process. These, the self feeding speculation is unmoored from the facts. Rather than allowing this to continue, I've decided to step aside now before my current contract expires on June 30. I do so not because I accept the narrative that's been constructed around this episode, but because I refuse to lend it further oxygen or. Or let it define me or my career. Okay, I'm going to pause there. So at this point in the story, you and I are trying to avoid this as we don't know what it is. Doesn't look great, but it's not proof positive. Maybe they were friends. Why is it my business? And let me just ask you, at that point, should it have been a public feeding frenzy and a huge story?
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Jesse Kelly
No. And I've never under. I just. Look, maybe I'm different. Maybe it's because I'm a total narcissist. I just have never gotten into celebrity gossip stuff. Like, I never under. When one of them gets a DUI or something. I don't. I don't understand why it goes on the front page. I don't. I don't care. I mean, not that getting a DUI is good. I mean, I don't. I don't support running off to Sedona with your girlfriend, certainly when you're married, but I. I've never really gotten into the celebrity gossip.
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Megyn Kelly
Again, for the record against that?
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Jesse Kelly
Yes. Yeah, for the record against that. But I've never really gotten into the celebrity gossip aspect of it. But it is huge, Megan. It's one of those things that exists, and I know it's really big. You know, TMZ is big. What is that? What is that magazine my wife used to read Us Weekly or whatever it is, like, all this celebrity gossip crap. Who's dating who and stuff. It is enormous in this country. And I don't know that it's. I don't know that it's just this country, though. I think maybe there's some form of human nature that we famous people, rich people, we want. I think we want them to be involved in scandals. Does that make sense? Do you think there's part of us that wants them to be in scandals?
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah, it makes us feel better about our own lives. Yeah, I agree with that. But these are barely famous people. I mean, like, he's famous, I guess, and he's NFL famous. She's not really that famous. I mean, I should know Pine because it's not my world. I know nothing about sports, and I never watch sports, and I don't. I mean, I know the stars who really break out. Like Erin Andrews. I know, but she's also sort of a friend. But I know virtually nobody beyond that.
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Jesse Kelly
Well, this is, I guess, is probably one area where I actually may know a bit about it. I do know enough to know that at least back in the day, I'm pretty sure it's gone up by now that something like nine of the 10, maybe 10 of the 10 most watched things on TV every year, they're all NFL games. You know, we like to imagine that everybody's paying attention to politics, like. Like you, me, everybody watching and listening right now. But the truth is, people are watching NFL football. So to be the head NFL coach of a major NFL team, he is a big deal. She may not be, but I. I haven't watched the NFL in a few years since all that black lives Matter crap. And I know dang well who Mike Vrabel is. I used to watch him play for the Patriots back in the day. I. I know he went to Ohio State. Like, I. I know that guy. And I'm a. I'm. I'm someone who doesn't watch anymore. So if you're an NFL head coach, you are a celebrity. You're. There are a lot of people who know who you are.
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Megyn Kelly
Okay, all right, so they're. They're famous. Like, Like a friend of mine who's this very storied lacrosse coach says when we. When we met, he says, we're both famous in our fields. We're. We're both famous in our fields. So that's. That's the case with these two as well. They're famous in their fields. Okay, so that's where it stood. And Vrabel came out on Tuesday. And because the NFL draft is this weekend and this is like, I guess it's undergoing. Right. It's underway right now. And he tried to put it to bed by saying the following here in SOP1. Let's watch.
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Mike Vrabel (clips)
You know, I've had some difficult conversations with people that I care about. My family, the organization, the coaches, the players. Those have been positive and productive.
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Jesse Kelly
And we believe.
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Mike Vrabel (clips)
I believe in order to be successful on and off the field, you have to make good decisions. That includes me. That starts with me. We never want our actions to negatively affect the team. We never want to be the cause of a distraction. And what I. Those are comments and questions that I've answered for the team and with the team. We'll keep those private and to ourselves. And what I can promise you is that my family, this organization, the team, the staff, the coaches, everybody, our fans, most importantly, will get the best version of me going forward.
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Megyn Kelly
Okay, great, fine. Most people are like, do your thing. You're gonna go therapy. You're gonna miss one day of the draft. Okay, I noticed on Jason Whitlock's show, he was saying, so he cares. He cares about this enough to miss the third night of the draft, like his fourth pick, but not to give up on his first, second and third picks there for that he will attend the draft. So he's like, I care. Gotta. Gotta prioritize. My team too. So then Thursday comes along, which is yesterday. Cuz we're now at Friday. And Page Six is not done. They are not done. Page Six is all over this story like white on rice. And they publish because now these two are like, there's no affair. And he's really just kind of cop to. I've had difficult conversations and I'm going to go work on my stuff. He's kind of telegraphing maybe I had an error in judgment. But no affair yesterday. Page Six publishes pictures of them kissing inside the dimly lit Tribeca Tavern, March 11, 2020. Six years ago, they sat close to each other while conversing at the bar. At one point appearing to share a kiss. They were kissing. They were all over each other. And I witness tells Page Six, at the time the photos were snapped, Vrabel was already married to his wife Jen. He's been married to her for 26 years. While Racini said I do to her now husband six months later, the two were, quote, very close to each other throughout the evening. According to our Insider reports, Page 6, who witnessed Racini's legs in between V's legs. The eyewitness said that they were at this hole in the wall bar around midnight. They stayed for at least an hour. They were having a glorious time. They were giving each other pecs, meaning kisses, a bunch of pecs constantly. There was nobody in there. Nobody knew who they were. I don't even think the bartenders did. Vrabel was working as head coach of the Titans at the time. She was an NFL reporter. Again, it's dicey because she's reporting on him, presumably in that role and that is a clear ethical. No, no for a journalist. Then, then, okay, let's see. They. Then they were. Okay, wait, let me stop there. So then it broke, thanks to Internet sleuths yesterday, that if their affair began in 2020, we've got to re examine everything that happened because she got married six months later in 2021, she had a baby boy and she named him Mike. Mike as in that's this guy's name Mike? Yes. And she put out a tweet. Hold on, where is the tweet in my packet? I'm trying to find it. I can't find it. But her tweet read, I think I have it in my head. Oh, here it is. August of 2021. Keep looking at my almost four day old son Michael while trying to figure out who are the best Michaels to ever play and coach in the NFL. Jesse.
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Jesse Kelly
Oh, so uncomfortable.
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Megyn Kelly
That's. I know, it's smoking gun territory. And that's, I mean that's when I got interested. Is that, is that child his? Who. Who the f. Who's having an affair on their husband with somebody named Mike and then has a baby boy, then names him Mike. Then you Know, you could stop the story there, but then tweets out. I'm sitting here staring at him in all his glory, wondering who the best mics were ever to play and coach in the NFL. Which this guy did both, as you just pointed out.
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Jesse Kelly
So I have a question, Megan. I guess I should probably ask you this. I have a question. So we, okay, we get these pictures. Get these pictures from Sedona, Page Six and all that. Have these pictures from six years ago. Drive back at nightclub. We have public statements. The Michael thing that you just brought up. What I understand that's not at all the first thing that she has said publicly. Affectionate about Mike Rabel guy. So do you think it might be her? Meaning you think all this might be coming from her? Because I'll tell you what I do.
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Megyn Kelly
Like, she wants it out there, huh?
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Jesse Kelly
Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying. Oh, just a theory. I don't know.
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Megyn Kelly
I like where you're going.
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Jesse Kelly
Well, think about it. Think about it. These are brave.
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Megyn Kelly
Like, what was Page Six doing at the Sedona resort?
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Jesse Kelly
Why would Page Six is going to show up at some dirty hippie hotel in Sedona just randomly? No, somebody. Somebody told. Somebody tipped them off. How do you. How do you even come up with these six year old pictures from some tavern? Someone kept that on their iPhone. No one would even do that. Who does that? Why would you make these public statements? I'm assuming if you're going to sleep around, you want to at least keep it pretty quiet. She doesn't seem to be keeping anything quiet. This is before any of this stuff came out again. I don't know any of this. I don't know. But I tell you what, a lot of things add up to. She wants this out there.
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Megyn Kelly
Oh, wow. There is great reason to believe that. Because you look back now because the Internet sleuths are the best. The best. X is the best. They have found so many statements by her and I was thinking these were Freudian slips, you know, that that's what. But. But maybe not. Maybe this woman has actually been desperate to have us know this truth for a long, long time. Even though she's still married. Because maybe she would like to be married to Mike's father. No, I'm. I have no idea that this. That he's Mike's father. I. As far as we know her, her two children were fathered by her current husband. But it is weird she named one Mike while allegedly having an affair with a mic. Here are some examples. Okay, we're Going to go through a few here. Okay, here's one from August of 2025. So not. Not too distant in the past. It's sat seven she's interviewing on. It's his 50th birthday. Sat seven.
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Co-host/Guest 1
Well, this was the most serious conversation I think I've ever had with you in 10 years.
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Mike Vrabel (clips)
Well, you started talking about things, and
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Jesse Kelly
then I go into coach speak.
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Mike Vrabel (clips)
I veer off into coach.
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Jesse Kelly
No, no.
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Co-host/Guest 1
It was a little coach speaking, but it's all fair. And I can see and I think people listening and watching you understand what you're trying to build. So we got to have a little fun. So I figured we'd do 50 seconds for your 50th.
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Mike Vrabel (clips)
50 seconds for my 50th.
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Megyn Kelly
Right.
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Co-host/Guest 1
There's no way.
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Mike Vrabel (clips)
I don't think I'll be able to get through 50 seconds.
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Co-host/Guest 1
Words are not our problems ever. In fact, I think we both probably talk a little too much. But we can do it.
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Megyn Kelly
Can I borrow your whistle?
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Mike Vrabel (clips)
No. 50 sec. No.
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Co-host/Guest 1
50 seconds for every time a new
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Mike Vrabel (clips)
question no one wants to see.
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Co-host/Guest 1
That is nasty. Your wife Jen is a superb athlete.
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Mike Vrabel (clips)
I would say used to be.
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Co-host/Guest 1
Maybe used to be. But she still got it in her, I'm sure, the way you do. So which sport do you think Jen could beat you at now?
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Mike Vrabel (clips)
Ping pong.
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Co-host/Guest 1
Ping pong.
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Megyn Kelly
Have you ever done it with her and she beats you fair and square?
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Mike Vrabel (clips)
I get too aggressive.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
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Mike Vrabel (clips)
I can't, you know, I mean, after it's two volleys, I just try to kill it.
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Megyn Kelly
Okay. That whole thing, it was so weird. She's wearing no clothes. First of all, she's got short shorts on. Trying to do a professional interview. Sitting. I mean, short shorts are one thing. When you're standing there, it's never okay for a reporter, but while you're sitting, you're wearing short shorts and a teeny tiny tank. That's cute. Skin tight. And she was obviously flirtatious with him. Can I borrow your whistle? I mean, like what? And she raises the wife. That's diabolical. She raises the wife and he insults the wife to his alleged affair partner.
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Jesse Kelly
Megan. I'm just going to keep coming back to it now. If she wanted this out there, what would she have done any different? It's. I mean, that's. That's a pretty brazen question right there. When you're the one having an affair with the guy to ask about his wife.
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Megyn Kelly
No.
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Jesse Kelly
Sings about his wife. Clearly they have discussed his wife off camera. That's pretty crazy.
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Megyn Kelly
Oh, my God. It's unabashed. Now, here is another one. This is from what's. Pardon my take. Is that a sports show? Yes, it's a podcast. A sports podcast.
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Jesse Kelly
I think it's bars. I think it's barstool Sports show. Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
Okay. Okay. So this is from just this past October. And it's Diana Rossini. You'll hear it.
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Jesse Kelly
SOT8 Max said, I don't understand how Diana is married to an Eagles.
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Zach Peter
I did say that.
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Jesse Kelly
She keeps getting to say bad stuff about the Eagles. And then we might have said that your husband needs to maybe, like, withhold sex from you.
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Zach Peter
You said that. You said that.
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Jesse Kelly
He's got to do something.
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Co-host/Guest 1
Say it, because it's actually happening right now.
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Zach Peter
Yes. That's. That's my guy. I love that guy. I've always loved that guy.
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Co-host/Guest 1
That is so the truth.
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Megyn Kelly
Kevin is, like.
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Co-host/Guest 1
Kev has lost attraction to me since I put out a tweet.
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Megyn Kelly
Yes. Like.
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Co-host/Guest 1
Like, I think he thought I was, like, cute at one point. I can just tell by the way he passes me in the house. He's like, you're disgusting.
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Jesse Kelly
Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
Oh, boy. Okay, wait, there's another one kind of related from just this past February, two months ago, SOT 9. You know who lets me know my
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Co-host/Guest 1
marriage is falling apart?
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Megyn Kelly
My mom.
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Zach Peter
So that's good.
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Jesse Kelly
Oh, does she really?
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Megyn Kelly
What did she say? Walk over
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Jesse Kelly
to you.
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Co-host/Guest 1
This is real. Are we doing this right now?
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
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Jesse Kelly
Please do it.
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Megyn Kelly
So are we.
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Co-host/Guest 1
I. I said, hey, thank you so much. Kev told me that you stopped by the house.
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Megyn Kelly
You did the. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Co-host/Guest 1
He looks good.
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Megyn Kelly
He looks really good. I go, yeah. I. I was like, he doesn't seem
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Co-host/Guest 1
as stressed this year.
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Megyn Kelly
She like, you know what? I'm starting to think he's got a girlfriend.
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Co-host/Guest 1
And you know what?
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Megyn Kelly
Good for him.
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Jesse Kelly
What?
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Co-host/Guest 1
He looks good. He successful. His wife's never around. You love this football thing. That's why he looks good. He doesn't even know who I am right now.
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Megyn Kelly
He's okay.
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Co-host/Guest 1
Oh, he has. He. We've talked about. We've never been more disconnected in our lives. Our text messages look like two robots. Hello. Hello.
- [26:18]
Jesse Kelly
Just go through the motions.
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Co-host/Guest 1
Yes.
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Jesse Kelly
Is he getting insider in the. In the divorce? Love you.
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Mike Vrabel (clips)
Any of that.
- [26:27]
Jesse Kelly
Love you. Love you, too.
- [26:28]
Megyn Kelly
No. Not even an emoji.
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Co-host/Guest 1
I get a picture of Mikey and Joey looking adorable and perfectly dressed because Kevin's so good at that.
- [26:35]
Jesse Kelly
Right.
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Megyn Kelly
And I'll write back, miss you guys. You too. Okay. You know, just the reference there to constantly being on the road that's in general a recipe for a disaster in any marriage. Just ask any of those Hollywood couples, you know, that are constantly separated. You know, one's a Hollywood star, one's a music star, whatever. They're never together. The only marriages that last in, in period are generally the ones where people are together and are dealing with life's problems together, not where one is constantly away. She's making light of it, but it's clearly the mother was onto something because there does appear to have been an affair in the relationship, at least on her part. We don't know what the husband story is.
- [27:18]
Jesse Kelly
Yeah, I've wondered this before in the past. If you're married to, for instance, an NFL reporter, sideline reporter, you've got to be an extremely secure dude. And even then, I don't think you're ever going to be totally comfortable knowing that your wife spends all of her working hours on the road with athletes and coaches and things like that
- [27:42]
Megyn Kelly
in
- [27:43]
Jesse Kelly
general is a recipe for disaster anyway. So. Yeah, I can see how that would have been a point of stress.
- [27:49]
Megyn Kelly
Yes. And actually, just watching her, it occurs to me as a journalist, like, sports reporting is tough. It's tough for these women because they, they do have to be kind of chummy. They have to be like a guy's girl, you know, like, you can't go in there, I don't know, with like, stop the nonsense. Right? Like that's. You're not going to get very far in sports reporting if that's your attitude. Right? So like part of it is you have to be a guy's girl. But like, do you have to wear the skin tight, you know, tank when you're doing all your interviews to show off the rack? Do you have to be flirtatious all the time? Like flirtatious doesn't. It's not the same thing as guy's girl.
- [28:32]
Jesse Kelly
Look, I've never been. I'm happy that I'm not a journalist. You're the one who's a journalist. I've never been. But when I was a kid, these sideline reporters, and there's probably something to this, they weren't, with all due respect, they weren't super attractive. I'm not saying they were ugly. I'm not saying they look like bulldogs.
- [28:51]
Megyn Kelly
Wasn't a requirement.
- [28:53]
Jesse Kelly
But they don't look like Aaron Andrews either, right? They don't. They didn't, they didn't look like that when I was a kid. Maybe I'm just an old fogey. It was the, you know, decent looking woman. But Clearly a professional journalist, right? It was. She was a professional journalist. Older, more mature woman. Not some complete dime. Again, I know I sound like an old person. This era where all these female reporters are just, they all look like models. It's, this is new to me and it probably is a recipe for disaster, no matter what. I mean, what do you think's going to happen when you put some, some perfect tent around a group of NFL athletes and coaches? What the heck's going to happen? Everyone knows what's going to happen.
- [29:34]
Megyn Kelly
Yes. I mean, look, ideally, if she's committed to her husband, nothing's going to happen. But it does not appear that Diana Rossini was all that committed to the husband. Listen to her here in SOT5. This is a clip from ESPN 2021. Again, she's just had her son Mike, or is about to. I guess that happened in 2021. And so did this. Watch five. Diana, we want to give you one more chance to address this. It happened earlier in our program today. For those of you who weren't watching, Diana Rossini said this.
- [30:05]
Co-host/Guest 1
And I think we all do weird things when we're in love and we over share and over post. And look, he's married. He's getting married to a beautiful actress. I'm married to someone average. I don't post a lot about him. If I was married to someone beautiful, I'd over post too.
- [30:21]
Megyn Kelly
Now this doesn't seem nice. We have put together photos of Diana's
- [30:25]
Jesse Kelly
husband here for everyone to see so you can make some amends on national television.
- [30:32]
Co-host/Guest 1
We're average together. And you know what the worst part is? He sent me a text during that segment, not watching because he actually works for a living. And he said, good luck today. Be great on get ups. So the guy's got a heart of gold. And here I am on national TV killing him. Look, we're average together, but he makes me above average because he married me. So I am so sorry. I need to really stop killing my husband on television. I'm going to be divorced by Christmas.
- [31:00]
Megyn Kelly
I mean, this poor man. Like, she's out there. He's average. Whatever. If I, if he were better looking, I'd be posting more about him. I know she played it off, Jesse, but I really believe with each one of these like subtle digs that she just. Ha ha ha ha ha. There's a truth being revealed. She does think he's average. She doesn't think he's much to look at. She's, she's espousing her true feelings through the, you know, sort of shield of a laugh. But it's quite clearly how she actually views him.
- [31:34]
Jesse Kelly
Well, the poor kids, I know they're, I know they're young now, but you know how fast kids grow up. They grow up right before your eyes. It's not going to be long. And they're going to have access to the Internet, smartphones and everything else. And I mean, mom, I, I can't imagine everything's going to stay together marriage wise, but mom is not going to look all that great in five, ten years from now. And little Mike gets a smartphone and picks it up and starts read through the Internet. It's going to be a, it's, it's very ugly, very ugly when it gets this public.
- [32:05]
Megyn Kelly
Here's another Freudian one, I thought, or to your point, maybe her desperate attempt to tell everybody that she was screwing this guy. Allegedly. Reportedly, she denies it. SOT6 is Diana Rossini speaking to Bill Simmons as Vrabel became head coach of the Patriots. And I don't know, Jesse, I think he, like, was head coach of the Patriots and then wasn't. Then was again. I'm not sure. In any event, here he is becoming. He is becoming head coach of the Patriots again. And this is August of 2025. Her with Bill Simmons. Sat 6.
- [32:39]
Jesse Kelly
Well, people are selling my timeline. Barely, barely had a coach last year.
- [32:43]
Co-host/Guest 1
I get it. But they're, they're kind of going a little overboard on it. Like, it's like we're going to shove rabble down your throat so much that
- [32:50]
Gia Tolentino
you're going to forget about Tron.
- [32:54]
Megyn Kelly
Oh, wow.
- [32:58]
Jesse Kelly
I'm not.
- [32:58]
Megyn Kelly
Excuse me. She's talking about shoving him down her throat.
- [33:01]
Jesse Kelly
You want me to say she's talking about.
- [33:03]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, no, no, I got. Well, I got one more. By the way, my executive producer explains to me that that was. He'd been with the Patriots as a player and now his return was as the coach. Okay, one more for you. This is after a trip she'd taken on the road February 5th of 2025. Okay, so this is not. It's about a year ago and she is on the Zolak and Bertrand podcast. So 4.
- [33:29]
Jesse Kelly
They have a Super Bowl?
- [33:29]
Co-host/Guest 1
No, I did things in Miami. I haven't even told my husband because it's just. I had that much fun. It was not like that. I knew he would, he would judge the kind of partying I was doing. I don't know what got into me. I just remember being down there acting like it was my last day on earth.
- [33:45]
Megyn Kelly
I Mean, every comment, every comment is negative about him keeping secrets from him, diminishing him, or on the other hand, with this Rabel guy, some sort of sexual innuendo or flirtatious, you know, banter on the set. Like the evidence was right there. It was actually staring us in the face. And so here's the question. Now he okay, there's more from him, which I should play because he now had to say more after the kissing photos hit. And so he came out for a second presser. The first was Tuesday. I played you a sound bite yesterday. He comes out again and says the following in let's do. I don't want to play both. Let's just stop. Three
- [34:31]
Jesse Kelly
playing how over just the last two and a half weeks, we go from your original statement about, you know, any insinuation, the photos or anything other than this, it was laughable, to your comments Tuesday to now. Deciding to go to counseling. What is that process?
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Mike Vrabel (clips)
Well, that's, that's a private and personal matter. I don't think that those comments, that was, you know, always an attempt to protect your family. I would never be dismissive, but I think my family and this football team are the most important thing and that's, that's what I plan to do. And I'm excited about the, this challenge
- [35:09]
Megyn Kelly
with both those things. So now he's going to counseling in an attempt to protect his family, which is such a lie. If he cared about protecting his family, he wouldn't have been having an alleged six year affair on them. Including. This is also what I didn't know yesterday while his wife had cancer. So I really don't want to hear any bullshit from Mike Vrabel, whose name I didn't even know two weeks ago about protecting his family by taking a weekend off to go to counseling over his obvious extramarital affair. What is it with the counseling as the universal, like, protector of people who do bad things?
- [36:00]
Jesse Kelly
Well, I think you just described exactly what it is. It's always been the shield people use when you get busted for having three kilos of cocaine in your trunk. You go to the news media and you say, I just need to go get, I need to, I need to go to rehab. I need to get some counseling. When it's been discovered that you have a six year long affair, I need counseling. It's, it's the card people pull out when they just want to ride out a bad news cycle until it goes away. And let's be honest, Megan, this thing works. I mean, everybody uses this. All famous people do football coaches? Do celebrities? Do politicians do it? They all do it. I got to get some counting. I'm going to get some help. I've had some internal talks. And then what happens? Tomorrow we wake up, we grab our phones, we pull it out, there's a new scandal, and we move on. As hard as it is to believe, this time next week, you won't even remember this story. You'll remember it, but you won't bring it up. You won't care anymore because it'll be gone. He'll go to counseling. Both marriages will probably break up. Terribly sad for the families, the spouse.
- [36:58]
Megyn Kelly
Yes.
- [36:59]
Jesse Kelly
Kids and everything else. But by this time next week, everything, everyone else in the country will have moved on.
- [37:05]
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, I should point out, I don't know that she had cancer. There was a Reddit post on it, but it's been unconfirmed. Either way, it's shit behavior if he did it. I've got to finish with this one thing and. Well, just two points. The first is people do care about this because he's in a very prominent role and so is she. And they came out and they lied to us. And not only did they lie, but, you know, she got rather indignant, holier than thou. Like, how dare you. The scandalous allegations. And so, like, that is not the way to handle it. You know, like, I think the public actually would have been more where you and I were yesterday if they had just come out and said, not going to comment on this. Moving on. You know, like just. They're right that they don't have to share anything about their private lives with us. They actually don't. It's not like he's a politician or a clergyman, you know, or she's running for office. Like, that's not. She would have been in trouble ethically, and she would have had to tell the truth to the Athletic owned by the New York Times about whether she was sleeping with somebody she was covering. But to the rest of us, she actually owed no explanation, nor did he. But if you're going to go out there and get indignant about it like she did. And then he lied, too. He lied, you know, like, it's just better to say, I'm not going to comment on this. You don't, you don't have to comment on everything. But once they did, they, they started making their public beds that they were going to have to lie in, and that's what's happening. But secondly, I wanted to point to this. One of the stories that grabbed my eyes was she was not the only reporter to lose her job as a result of all this. Jesse. There's a, there's a gal named Chrissy Freud of USA Today F R O Y D. She covered the NFL and college football for that horrific, terrible paper. They're awful. So Chrissy ultimately is in a better place. But she posted the following after Diana Rossini posted her indignant resignation. You know, the like, I'm not going to allow this to distract, and so on. And she posted the following. I'm sure you were told to submit this or that you'd get fired instead. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. We know who you really are and what you've been up to for years. It does so much detriment to women in sports who have done things the right way. Now, there's absolutely nothing wrong with what she said. And actually she raises some very valid points. Any female reporter who sleeps with a source or someone she's supposed to be covering objectively besmirches every female reporter who's not doing that. And like this woman, Chrissy Freud is very attractive. She's got the long blonde hair and she's probably sick and tired of people looking at her and thinking that shit. And she's looking at this gal saying, she said it right up front, you've been doing it for years. We know who you really are and what you've been up to for years. So she clearly knew something, Jesse. And what happened? USA Today fired her. They fired Chrissy Freud for saying this about Diana and this guy, this coach. Where does this girl go to get her job back as a sports commentator who appears to have done things right, who appears to have been rather offended at the obvious behavior of this fellow female sportscaster. And as a result of her speaking out for what was moral, she lost her job.
- [40:24]
Jesse Kelly
Well, she's certainly not going to get a job with the Patriots. I know that that's one. And two, back to what you were talking about, about the, the, you know, they, when they got indignant and things like that. I've talked about this for a long time that we live in something I call the nuclear news cycle. And that's that, you know, if, if it's 1990 and there's a scandal, how do you even hear about it? What do you learn? Maybe it's on the newspaper, maybe it's on a magazine, maybe if you're super famous enough, it's a five minute segment on the news that night. But today it burns way hotter. It burns way hotter because of social media, because everyone has the ability to have access to you and dig through everything. You mentioned the Internet, slews and things like that. So if you get yourself in trouble, if you're Mike Vrabel, can you imagine what the notifications have been like on his phone for the past 48 hours? Every single freaking person, every friend. Your mom's texting you, mike, what did you do? I mean, everything. So for, for a short time, it's going to burn hotter than anybody has ever experienced. When it comes to a scandal, that's the bad part of it. But the good part of it is it also blows over faster. It's nuclear because it'll go to a million degrees in a split second and then it's gone. Because there will be a new scandal because of the social media aspect of everything now. So when people get in trouble, all people just shut up. Just shut up. I have no idea why they put out statements, why you get indignant while you lie, why you don't do anything. You know what I would do if I got caught in a scale? I'd take this and I'd just go up, there it is, it's on, it's on the desk. It's in the drawer somewhere. And now I don't hear from anybody. I'll pick it back up in 48 hours no matter what it is. And things will have blown over. But nobody does it. They feel like they have to make exactly right. Lies and things.
- [42:07]
Megyn Kelly
No, I couldn't agree with you more. I was just making this point the other day. I've been the subject of so many hit pieces. Long in depth pieces, investigative hit pieces. Just ignore them. Just ignore them. Ignore them. Whether they're real or fake, it really doesn't matter. Ignore them. In today's fractured media, it is pointless to go out there. The more you comment on it, the more it stays in the news and the worse you look.
- [42:32]
Jesse Kelly
You can't possibly.
- [42:33]
Megyn Kelly
Wait, let me ask you this better.
- [42:35]
Jesse Kelly
Yeah, go ahead.
- [42:36]
Megyn Kelly
Can therapy therapies him out of a six year affair? Like I, I seriously, like, are we being too hard on therapy? Like, should he get there, what should he do? What? Like what should he do?
- [42:50]
Jesse Kelly
Megan, I'm probably not the one to ask this question to because I'm not a big therapy guy. I think therapy in general is a kooky profession run by communist women who just love to tell people that their parents are at fault for everything in their lives and they haven't ever screwed up anything. And every time I've Ever talked to somebody who hated their parents or something like that? You know where they found out about it? From a therapist. They went to their parents are father, boyfriend, the husband. The wives were at fault. So you go sit down and pay 500 bucks an hour to some dirtball communist who doesn't know you from Adam, and she's going to sit there and hand some pills to you and tell you that none of your problems are your fault and come back next week and I'll reinforce that decision again. And just not the therapy. It's not a therapy guy. And stop.
- [43:35]
Megyn Kelly
Okay. Speaking of alleged affairs, there's a woman in the House of Representatives. Her name is Alma Adams. She's a Democrat from North Carolina. I saw you posted about this on X and I thought it was a great opportunity for us to have a meaningful chat. She is 79 years old, my friend, and she is. She has been probed by the House Ethics Committee for an alleged inappropriate relationship with a female staffer who we believe is at most in her 50s, but I'm not sure she could be younger than that. I think she graduated high school in around. Or. Yeah, around 1990. So she should be in her 50s if that's true. The alleged affair partner was her staffer. So if there were an affair, it's a me too situation, potentially. We know about this because a high ranking staffer filed a complaint with the Ethics Committee and this woman who was her alleged affair partner worked for her, was promoted the same year as the complaint to Deputy Chief of Staff in this woman's congressional office and also later made District Director of the Congresswoman's Charlotte based office. The office for Congresswoman Adams denies it, saying no inappropriate or improper relationship was uncovered by ethics investigators, nor did the North Carolina Democrat violate any House rules. So they're saying nothing was uncovered, nothing was proven, thank God. But the alleged affair partner, whose name is Sandra Brown, appears to have written a book, a self published novel under the pseudonym Savette Brown. So not her name Sandra Brown, but Savette Brown. Is it really Sandra Brown? Well, the author's Amazon page identifies her as Sandra Brown. So I feel like it's. Yeah, we're good. It's her. And in this novel it's about. Okay. A quarrel between a woman and her lover's husband. It's called Boss lady and. Wait, no, hold on a second. No, no. Okay. And the book Boss lady is called the Legend of Sidney Donovan Begins. And in this novel she says it's loosely based on her life. It basically documents this kind of an affair. So that's just some of the evidence that was used against them. But the probe never substantiated the claims and was closed without releasing any public findings. Your thoughts on Alma and this potential problem?
- [46:22]
Jesse Kelly
This is one of those stories that, you know, I really wish I could delete from my mind. It's not that. It's not that a congressman or senator that some politician would have a fling with a staffer as anything that would shock me, but 79 years old and I just don't understand. Why did you have to put her picture up again?
- [46:43]
Zach Peter
Megan?
- [46:44]
Jesse Kelly
I just don't understand this world. Eddie Bore. And sometimes I just have these moments where sometimes I want to go buy, like a cabin in the mountains without electricity, and I want to spend my days just chopping firewood and hunting deer. And I just. I don't want to know. I don't want to know that. I don't want to know that thing, that story you just brought up that I found out about yesterday. You know, it's bad enough that all these people are, you know, just complete turtles, but when it's the 79 year old apparently who finds a scissor sister in the office, I just. I don't understand. I don't understand this world anymore. I want to go back to like when I was a kid, when everything was innocent and better. I want to go back.
- [47:27]
Megyn Kelly
Or it's just unknown. Yes. They deny it. No wrongdoing found by the House Ethics Committee. All right, last but not least, in the time we have, there's a gal who writes for the New Yorker, and she's been known for bashing capitalism. And she goes on this podcast. Her name is gia Tolentino. She's 37. She goes on this podcast, this left leaning podcast, and makes a shocking admission in Sat 19. Would you steal from Whole Foods? You want to go first? Yes.
- [48:04]
Gia Tolentino
And I have under very specific circumstances, I think that stealing from a big box store, I'll just state my platform. It's neither very significant as a moral wrong, nor is it significant in any way as protest or direct action, but I did steal from Whole Foods on several occasions. Like, I've been involved in, like, a neighborhood mutual aid group since 2021. And so every week I would go get groceries for Miss Nancy, my now family friend who lived nearby, and she wanted to go to Whole Foods. She wanted food, food. So I was like, okay, great. And so I'd be getting Miss Nancy all our groceries, and then I would finish and I'd be like, oh, my God. Four lemons. I forgot four lemons. And on several occasions I was like, I'm just going to go back, grab those four lemons and get the hell
- [48:48]
Megyn Kelly
out and go to prison.
- [48:50]
Gia Tolentino
I know. You think they're going to ban me?
- [48:52]
Jesse Kelly
They should throw you in jail.
- [48:55]
Megyn Kelly
They should. The Daily Mail caught up with her outside of her five bedroom Brooklyn brownstone on Thursday afternoon and asked her about the scandal of what she said. And her response was, I can't believe you came to my fucking house. So she doesn't like being confronted in front of her massive display of wealth because it doesn't make her look very good, Jesse. But you tell me whether this micro looting, that's what they're calling it, that she thinks is noble somehow because it's Whole Foods, is in fact something to applaud.
- [49:31]
Jesse Kelly
Yeah. One of the things I have tried very hard over the past year, few years to get through to the right is that these people do not share your moral framework in any way at all. They are more comfortable with theft and violence and terrible things than you can ever possibly imagine. They have the moral framework that is closer to what I would describe as an animal than a human being. And people on the right, because they look like other human beings when they look at communists, they have two eyes, two ears, two hands, two legs. They think that this person must be human, like I am. And I'm here to tell you, these people, there are nothing you would recognize as human. If you could peer inside of their soul, you would understand you're dealing with actual monsters. That's what these people are. They're all like this. Every one of them. They're all like this.
- [50:18]
Megyn Kelly
The nerve to, to steal from a Whole Foods and cast it as some sort of a noble act, whereas you're costing that business money. You are taking something that doesn't belong to you, that you. To which you have no right. You're potentially endangering. Enough people do this. The jobs are the people who work in Whole Foods. Screw you. And she works for the New Yorker in a five bedroom brownstone in Brooklyn. I mean, what a joke. These people are so hypocritical. I mean, as you call them, the communists. Shame on her. Jesse, a pleasure. Thanks for going through it with me. It's great to see you on this Friday afternoon.
- [50:51]
Jesse Kelly
I'll see you, Megan. Thanks for having me.
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Megyn Kelly
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Zach Peter
Thank you for having me. Megan.
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Megyn Kelly
Love your content. Love all of your posts. They never found the leak.
- [53:24]
Zach Peter
They still haven't found her. We don't know where she's at.
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Megyn Kelly
We have no idea where the lady is.
- [53:29]
Zach Peter
The aliens took her. Megan.
- [53:30]
Megyn Kelly
I don't know we have got to start with Lauren Sancho Sanchez Bezos. So this New York Times profile is one of, if not the most absurd piece of reading I've had to do in the past six months. The headline is, someone has to be happy. Why not Lauren Sanchez Bezos? As half of an unfathomably powerful couple, Ms. Sanchez Bezos seems to have influenced the uber rich to stop apologizing and start enjoying themselves. The message of this piece, Zach, is that she has made it okay for billionaires to be billionaires again, that they should just be happy, enjoy life, have fun, and remember to be grateful and express their gratitude. In the mornings, she writes the Amy Chozik, who writes the piece starts as follows. A lot of things make Lauren Sanchez Bezos ridiculously happy. Helicopters, fashion, protecting the narwhal, her little sister Elena, her five best girlfriends, and of course, her husband, Jeff Bezos. She and Mr. Bezos do everything together. On a typical day, the newlyweds wake up around six in their new, roughly $230 million compound on Indian Creek, an exclusive private island in Miami. Where you don't live. That's me. And often called Billionaire Bunker. They don't touch their phones. Instead, they begin each day by listing 10 things they are grateful for. And they can't repeat what they named the day before. From there, the couple drink their morning coffee in a sun room and watch the sunrise. Hers from a mug that reads woke up sexy as hell. Again, his from one she got him that spells hunk in symbols from the periodic table. They play pickleball six days a week. They work out for an hour with their private trainer. He looks good, doesn't he? Ms. Sanchez Bezos says of her new husband in an interview in Miami in January. She slow nodding, repeating, he looks good. Oh my God, I threw up in my mouth.
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Zach Peter
I threw up in my mouth.
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Megyn Kelly
You tell me, could you find something more tone deaf for the times when people are struggling with inflation, et cetera?
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Zach Peter
Like, first of all, I don't think that this article related to anybody. Like, I don't think it resonated with anybody. I mean, I didn't think you could actually choke on gratitude, but I caught myself nearly vomiting with the amount of gravity gratitude that was about to pour. Well, actually, I want to retract that because I don't have any more gratitude after having to listen to that insufferable morning with the Bezos. It's just, it's, it's so out of touch and it just like, who thought that this was a good idea, especially you know, when so many Americans are struggling to put food on the table, the last thing they want to hear about is, you know, Jeff Bezos, this trainer that he trains with for an hour a day, six days a week, when most people are lucky if they can go for a 20 minute walk
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Megyn Kelly
or how happy they are they should
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Zach Peter
be with all that money.
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Megyn Kelly
Happy, right? Like she's like, however happy anybody is, I'm 20% happier. We know. We've seen you on your yacht with a bubble bath foaming out of your hot tub, which is the size of an Olympic swimming pool in the Mediterranean. We get it. Most of us could never dream of living like that. And by the way, wouldn't even if we had. Your husband's, not your billions.
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Zach Peter
I mean, I guess to an extent it's better than getting like the uber wealthy rich people like the Blake livelihoods of the world who victimize themselves and complain. At least she's owning that she's happy. I'll give her that. We don't need her to boast about it in our, in our faces and we definitely don't need a fluff piece like this. But I mean, there's no reason for you to not be happy. That's when. When it's worse when you have all the resources and all the money and then you're complaining or you're trying to in some way victimize yourself. That's.
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Megyn Kelly
Well. And also the, the absurdity of like the gratitude homage each morning. Like, I am picturing a mom, single mom, inner city, three kids, two jobs, shitty schools, where she has to worry about them getting shot or joining a gang. This. I've met moms like this on the south side of Chicago in particular, or going to prison, no father in the picture, who find a way each day to find something that they're grateful for, you know, the love of their child, a soft blanket, a delicious cup of coffee. Because they have the nerve of these two fuckers sitting there. Ten things, everyone. And it can't be something we've said the day before. Like my diamond mine, my personal helicopter. I'm thankful for the yacht, our yacht that has its own yacht with all of our toys, where I play with my friends, the Kardashians. Who the fuck do they think they're kidding? Oh, we're just that that's what's special about us, is we're grateful.
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Zach Peter
And you know that. Their gratitude's like, I'm grateful for this cup of coffee this morning. I'm grateful for the sun coming out and basking on her, like, you know, it's that type of stuff. She's not sitting there being grateful for all her shoes, which she should be grateful for.
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Megyn Kelly
For.
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Zach Peter
Because to your point, when you have these other struggling parents or struggling mothers, they have to find gratitude because the circumstances, you know, can be disappointing. They can be, you know, they're struggling, they can't put food on the table, they're in a bad environment, they're in a bad city, their kids are struggling in school, whatever the case may be. There are so many things that they could perceive as going wrong that they choose to focus on the positive. And that's the point of leaning into gratitude. Whereas the Bezos have everything that they could possibly want or ever need.
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Megyn Kelly
Yes, it's a great point. Yes. Gratitude is like almost an act of nobility when one's life is really tough. It shows a toughness of spirit and like an admirable positive attitude. When your husband is the third richest man in the world or less impressed by your ability to find things for which you are thankful. It's just so. She's so fucking clueless, right? It goes on. The couple had recently returned from Seattle, where Mr. Bezos celebrated his 62nd birthday by making pancakes for all of their seven children from previous marriages. Ms. Sanchez Bezos, 56, adores kids. Having them, raising them, encouraging other people to have them. Okay, this is so sweet. Yes. His wife. The children he had with his wife, Mackenzie, whom he totally abandoned and cheated on with her, with Lauren Sanchez. And her. She had two prior husbands, I think one was Tony Gonzalez, a football player, and one was Patrick Weitzel, who ran Endeavor, one of the biggest Hollywood agents agencies in the world. So she had one. She was basically, she looks like a gold digger because she kept, like, upgrading to a richer, more well known man. And until she found one of the richest men in the world. You better watch it, Jeff Bezos, because she meets Elon Musk. He's higher than you on the. On the totem pole. So, yes, it's so lovely when you're there making breakfast for another man's children. Whose children whose wife you stole and then lied about it to the public after it was broken by the National Enquirer, which appears to have been right. Now, again, they deny. For the record, I must say that they deny that it began in an affair, but it seems quite obvious. And it appears that her brother may or may not have been the one who. Who bumped it. But the nerve. Again. Oh, such a perfect picture of a family life. Zach.
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Zach Peter
Peter, you know she should be grateful because at some point he will find somebody else and she's. Her days are numbered. There will be someone new. So she should be grateful for all the private jets that she has right now. I mean, she'll probably be taken care of to an extent, should they ever get divorced, and I feel like that's inevitable. I'm sure she'll always find someone newer, younger, hotter at some point. And so she should count all of her. Her blessings now. I mean, she is kind of oppressed when it comes to billionaires, though, Megan, because he's, he's third, he's not second, he's not first. So there's a little humility there.
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Megyn Kelly
She may have to go for, who's that guy? The foreign guy who owns Louis Vuitton and all those, like, foreign brands. He's, he's, he's up there. Then she suggests she maybe, like, maybe she wants another baby. She's 56 years old. She says. Oh, wait, hold on. Flip back. Over several interviews, writes the author, she repeatedly urged me to have another baby. Do it. She said I would have another one tomorrow. Tomorrow. I finally asked if she and Mr. Bezos were considering it, as a couple of her friends had suggested to me, quote, I would have a baby tomorrow. She repeated with a coy smile. A spokeswoman later called to say Ms. Sanchez Bezos was not having a baby. But, wow. Okay, so 56 is a little. A little long in the tooth to be considering getting pregnant. Who am I to judge? But I'm fine to judge, actually. I'm almost her age. Okay. Secondly, she says they point out that she counts Kris Jenner, Katy Perry, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Lydia Kivis, wife of super connector Michael Kivis, among her close friends. People act like he's my new friend, Ms. Sanchez Bezos says of Mr. DiCaprio. No, I've known Leo since I was 25. 25. Left out of the piece is that marriage to the Hollywood super agent. They referenced the marriage, but that's how she knows Leo. Once again, I've got a thing about these women who access huge wealth or huge connections. Connections through their husbands and then act like it's a personal achievement. Oh, I go way back with Leo. Now he's a personal friend of mine or I'm a philanthropist. I have donated billions or millions to these charities. You were a bored housewife who took your husband's connections and or money to make yourself feel like you had achieved something. I would have respected her more had she stayed on the reporter beat flying her helicopter bringing people the news. It was sort of silly. Her role as a reporter, as I understand it was more entertainment stuff. But that's fine. I would respect that more than her running around like some of these other nimwits like Meghan Markle. I'm a founder. A founder. And I'm a philanthropist. And I know stars. I know lots of stars. Me. Not through Jeff Bezos, through my other husband.
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Zach Peter
I mean, Megan is a founder. She founded herself a prince that gave her this lifestyle. If anything, that's the only thing she's founded, is a prince.
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Megyn Kelly
True, true. So in any event, she goes on and it ends with the following. Okay, she's got to talk about her trip to outer space. Zach, I can talk about it because I've been. I don't know if you've been, but not everyone's been. I've been. I went with Maureen Callahan and Sarah, my hairstylist and friend. They write about how. Okay, this is how it ends. She is fluent in fame, but power is a whole other language. Especially as one half of a couple whose reach rivals that of a nation state. She wants to spread happiness into every room she enters. But happiness can't scale. Happiness can't pay the rent. Back at the elementary school in Connecticut where she was promoting her book, Ms. Sanchez Bezos told the students about going to space on Mr. Bezos's private blue origin rocket. I went to space with Katy Perry, she tells the children. How fun is that? It was like a girl's trip to space. The writer points out the flight was widely mocked as a boondoggle, an emblem of late stage end times excess. Ms. Sanchez Bezos, however, does not traffic in cynicism. It was the coolest thing ever, she told the students. A little boy raised his hand, asked if she's ever been to another planet. No, Ms. Sanchez Bezos replied, sometimes it feels like I'm another planet. But no. So she wants the little kids to know it was super fun. She was there with Katy Perry and it was like a girls trip to space, which her fellow astronaut, which is what they actually called themselves Gayle King, would not appreciate. Trip is dangerously close to ride. Here's what Gail said.
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Gayle King
Please don't call it a ride. That is not a friggin ride. Whenever a man goes up, you have never said to an astronaut boy, what a ride. You know, we duplicated the same trajectory that Alan Shepard did back in the day, pretty much. No one called that a ride. It was called a flight. It was called a journey because a right a Ride implies that it's something frivolous or something that's lighthearted. There was nothing frivolous about what we did and the machine. Machine that we were on and what it took for the people to get that machine up and running to get us up and get us back down safely. So, you know, I'm very disappointed and very saddened by it. And I also say this. The what it's doing to inspire other women and young girls. Please don't ignore that. I've had so many women and young girls reach out to me. And men, too, by the way. Men. Men too. That say, wow, I never thought I could do that, but I see you doing it at this stage of my life. Who would have thunk it? Not me.
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Megyn Kelly
And.
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Gayle King
And how inspired they are.
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Megyn Kelly
So there you have Gayle King. There was nothing frivolous. Nothing frivolous. And Lauren Sanchez saying, how fun is that? It was like a girls trip to space.
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Zach Peter
I mean, it was really a Disneyland ride. It was a ride, Gail. It was a ride. You guys went. You went right up and you came right back down. And you did it for the gram and you did it for the photo op. You didn't do anything novel. You didn't have to study and be part of NASA. And, you know, there was no merit behind it. It was a make a wish. Gail won a raffle ticket and they picked her to go up to space with Katy Perry. And it's just. It's crazy that I didn't even realize Gail was taking herself that seriously.
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Megyn Kelly
Oh, yeah. I mean, and the nerve of Lauren Sanchez Bezos to speak to these children like I was there with Katy Perry. Actually name dropping celeb names or to
- [68:07]
Zach Peter
even make it seem like it's something aspirational for them when it's not like she did anything to achieve that other than marry some rich dude. She took a ride on Jeff Bezos and that's how she got her free ride up into space. There was no merit behind that.
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Megyn Kelly
It's exactly right. So the other. The final piece I want to note is that she says she's gone to space. Okay. According to Gail, they're actual astronauts. Mirrored the flight path of Alan Shepard. And how does Sanchez Bezos synopsize this for the students? The coolest thing ever. Ever. Which is right on par with her other rhetoric about this trip, even after the fact. Listen to this out there. It's dark. It's like death.
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Jesse Kelly
Wow.
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Megyn Kelly
Wow. That is one of the things that inspired us to get these mugs made, Zach. It's got our own label on there and it reads so dark, so quiet. We also have ones that read nothing frivolous. Don't call it a ride. You could also get a hat. I don't. Is this stuff still available on our website? Stevie, let me know. But in any event, she's the one who inspired this quote. There's another one where she talks about how quiet, how quiet, so quiet. In any event, that's Lauren Sanchez Bezos. And it's amazing to me that the, that the writer did not understand how off putting this is going to be and how the New York Times went ahead with this. Given the amount of suffering in our country right now, the economy is the number one issue for everybody, left or right. They're very disappointed in how Trump is handling it and they actually expected them to celebrate this.
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Zach Peter
It's crazy. I mean, again, especially the New York Times, the, you know, the prestige that they seem to hold themselves up with, it's self prompted, but they, you know, they think that they're very prestigious, yet they're giving pieces like this as if their readers, as if Americans care about this sort of thing. Like it was bad enough that we had to watch them all go to space and have Katy Perry sing and put a flower in the camera for Instagram. And like, it's bad enough that we already had to live through that and then now we have to have a fluff piece on Lauren Sanchez's gratitude list in the morning and bragging about, you know, her fun little girls trip to space. I mean, I was considering going there for the summer. Maybe. Maybe I'll take a little girls trip to space this summer. Megan.
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Megyn Kelly
Zach, I'm gonna send you a mug that reads Woke up sexy as hell again.
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Zach Peter
I'll put it right next to my Meghan Markle candle collection.
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Megyn Kelly
This you'll have your terrible gifts from a Megan and your great gifts from a Megan.
- [70:49]
Zach Peter
Yes.
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Megyn Kelly
Okay, let's keep going. Blake Lively, even more insufferable. Lauren Sanchez Bezos is not a bad person. I actually have, like, no anger in my heart toward her. I think she's kind of absurd and she's fun to mock. Let's be honest. But she doesn't seem bad to me. Blake Lively seems bad. Blake Lively is trying to ruin the life of, of a man who did nothing to her other than cast her in his movie and try to make her happy. And yet there is no making Blake Lively happy. That's what seems clear. There's no making her happy. And when he finally stood up for himself, she went legal, went nuclear, and tried to smear him in the public. And now we get her damage demand, which is out of this world. She's not the only. Lawrence Sanchez Bezos is not the only thing that was out of this world. She wants $296 million from him. She says this is because she suffered the mean girl and bully labels thanks to his bad behavior. And this caused her lost earnings between 41 and 87 million. Lost profits on her businesses between 39 and 143 million. Pain and suffering, physical pain and humiliation in the range of 250,000 to 400,000. Reputational harm attributed attributable to alleged defamation to the tune of about 24 million. Other reputational harm in an amount of approximately 36 to 40 million. And she wants punitive damages, meaning they would be trebled. Tripled. Whatever she gets in actual damages, she wants tripled. And she wants all attorneys fees and costs to be paid for by Justin Baldoni. Again, because she says that he created an image of her as a bully, a mean girl, and, quote, tone deaf. And that was all attributable to his retaliatory campaign against her for complaining about sexual harassment on the set of their movie. It ends with us. He got his PR honchos doing all of that. And everybody would have seen the truth, which is Blake Lively is absolutely lovely if it hadn't been for the big, bad retaliatory Justin Baldoni. Thoughts?
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Zach Peter
Yeah. She had a stellar reputation before all of this. She. She never had any. Anybody dislike her, especially after her. Her Gossip Girl days. I mean, it's so insane. First of all, I want to cost her a few more millions. So I'm gonna say bully. Bully, bullying. Mean girl, mean girl, mean girl. Tone deaf. So hopefully that was a few extra mil that we can cost her in this alleged smear campaign that I guess we're all part of. Even though I've repeatedly told the Internet and Blake Lively that my disdain for her is purely organic. USDA certified organic. Disdain for Blake Lively. And it goes back years before this, because I used to know people that used to work at her preserve company, and they've never had stellar stories to share about their experience. Experience working from her, for working for her. And even her career in Hollywood was never stellar. She was always known as somebody that was difficult to work with. Those rumors were always following her. She was lucky to find someone like Ryan Reynolds, who was so likable and charismatic and funny. And I've even said, if he is going to testify at trial, he's probably her best asset. But where she's really going to hurt is when she has to sit on, you know, sit up in front of the jury and testify before them because she thinks that she's likable. And I believe that she believes that in her head. But when the jury actually sees her, Tone Deaf is going to land. They are going to actually see her in her own words, believe this narrative that was crafted about her with this smear campaign. It's just ridiculous. And now she wants everybody to feel bad that she lost millions and millions of dollars in a lawsuit that was purely voluntary. She's continued to push this forward. She didn't need to. She put him in the basement and that should have been enough. Put Beldonia in the basement and be done with it. But she wanted to end him and now it's coming back to bite her.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah. At the premiere of her own movie, she unfollowed him on Instagram. She had the rest of the cast unfollow him. And he understood full well what she was doing to him. He hired PR people to defend him against her aggression, her mean girl girl behavior, not the other way around. And that's what the jury is going to hear when she gets cross examined. Meanwhile, here's her husband, Ryan Reynolds, sitting down with the Today show and Willie Geist on April 19th. Listen here, stop 30.
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Jesse Kelly
The spotlight obviously has its benefits, but it can be hard to. You and Blake, for the last year and a half have gone through this very public.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
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Jesse Kelly
Legal proceeding. How have you guys managed that as a family?
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Zach Peter
You know, you really see kind of the illusion behind so much of this stuff, you know, digital life versus real life, really, without getting into it too much. I'll just say I've never in my life been more proud of my wife. Really.
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Megyn Kelly
Like
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Zach Peter
people have no idea what's really going on, you know, and that's a. And I've just never in my life. And we're proud of someone with that level of integrity that brings that with them and carries that with them in everything that they do.
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Megyn Kelly
Do you think that's sincere?
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Zach Peter
I think they're so delusional that they believe their own bullshit. And I think. I think he's trying to convince himself of that. That I think he has to convince himself of that to make this all worth it. Considering it's hurting their reputations, it's clearly hurting their bank account, which I don't feel sorry for. I mean, you're crying about losing $40 million, but yet you have at least 100 million that you've already poured into just this lawsuit alone, which is ridiculous. Yeah. I don't know if I believe that their marriage is going to sustain this, because I just. There has to be too much stress on them. And if it goes the way I think many of us are thinking it's going to go, which is not in her favor, then I don't know how their marriage survives that. I think they'll try to hold on to it as long as they possibly can until they can't anymore.
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Megyn Kelly
Now, we know that Blake Lively and or her people watch the Megyn Kelly show. We know that because we've heard from them about our coverage. And we were subpoenaed by her for this lawsuit. They sent us a subpoena demanding all documents related to segments that we had done about Blake Lively, in response to which we told her to fuck off and won that battle. And so if she's watching this right now, Zach, Peter, what would be your advice to her? Here we are a month out, less than from the start of that trial.
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Zach Peter
My advice to her would be to go on the stand and give us, like, really tell us about the pain that you suffered at the hands of this retaliation campaign. I want her to give us Amber Heard tears, give us a performance, because the jury is going to laugh her out of that courtroom. She's never been likable. Her interview, I mean, I'm sure right now she's training and studying to try and give her best actress performance. This is really gonna be her Oscar worthy performance. But I don't think she's a great enough actress to be able to pull this off. But I want her to cry about her dog stepping on a beat like Amber Heard did. I want her to give us all of that. That way the jury can really see who they're dealing with, the monster that they're dealing with.
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Megyn Kelly
I would love to see it. But here's my actual advice. You are kind of, Blake, in the situation that President Trump is in with respect to the Iran war, this needs to end, but you need to save face in the process of it ending. What you need is a Pakistan, some third party who you can go to to say you initiate an end to this and we'll just pretend that, like, you came to me saying we should have negotiations, and because it was such a reasonable third party, I said, okay, for you, I'll do it for you. I'll institute a ceasefire and I'll enter into the negotiations. Meanwhile, it was you all along. It's fine. Everyone's willing to give you this fig leaf just to see this thing come to an end. We don't actually. I mean, it'd be great for the media to see this trial happen, but I think most people would prefer. No. It's a spectacle, and Justin doesn't deserve to be put through this. What you need is a Pakistan. You need some third party to come in to say, let me try to save it. And I. I nominate Taylor Swift. She is the one who can do it. As the former friend of Blake, as somebody who, you know, within the Hollywood crowd is universally beloved, could say, for the good of both of you, I am going to try to encourage you to settle this and put this. And if. If the power of Taylor Swift can make this thing go away, I think the nation would be very grateful. Blake Lively should be on her knees thanking her. She can do it. And I think Justin Baldoni would be thrilled if she just dropped her claims.
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Zach Peter
And Taylor has the perfect bargaining chip. Here's a wedding invite. Take it and shut down this lawsuit. And Blake will do it. That's the only thing that'll get her. Because she did have a Pakistan, though, Meghan. And that was Judge Lyman gutting her case and throwing out 10 of her 13 claims so she could then be like the laws as against women. You know, the. You know, the protections that I should have had aren't there. So you know what? I'm going to focus my efforts on protecting women in the workplace with my new philanthropic efforts moving forward. And that's what she should have done. She didn't take the loss. She didn't take the golden ticket opportunity, which was to be able to walk away from this and not let her lose. You know, she could say the judge threw it out because of a technicality or whatever she wanted to say. She could have spun it, and she missed that. But now she needs the Taylor Swift invitation. A wedding invite.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah, I like that. And if she. If she drives a hard bargain, she can ratchet it up to bridesmaid, maybe even matron of honor. Right? Like, it's not in order for me to show you as. As Pakistan, as the Henry Kissinger of our time. I'm gonna need. I'm gonna need a title at this wedding. I'm gonna need a featured role. I'm gonna need to be in the Vanity Fair or Vogue pictures, and everyone's gonna have to say nice things about me. Yeah, why not officiate? Taylor, this is a golden opportunity for you to look like this benevolent peacemaker. I think Everybody wins if Taylor plays Pakistan. Okay? And that's advice you won't hear on any other program. That's a special for the MK show today. I do want to show what's actually going to happen at the trial because if she doesn't listen to us, Zach, and she should, she's going to take the stand and Brian Friedman is going to eat her for lunch. It is going to be like a, like a wolf devouring a chicken in the field with like the bloody mouth and the canine teeth sharp and not any sort of remorse about doing it. It's going to be awful for her and for her reputation. And I know of what I speak because not only is he my long term personal lawyer and friend, he cross examined me. That's how we met. He was opposing counsel in this dispute I had with a former agent. And while he didn't do that to me, he was extremely effective in that litigation. Not effective enough because I didn't have any exposure. Anyway, my point is simply he's gonna go for it and she's not going to enjoy it. Here are some of the things that we are going to see. We played a couple of these earlier this week, but we can't get out of a Blake Lively segment without watching her diminish. Kirsty Flah of the Netherlands as she tried to interview Blake in a 2016 interview for Blake's film Cafe Society. Blake sitting next to Parker Posey, who somehow we forgot to notice is almost as bad. She's equally almost awful in this clip. But here they are.
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Zach Peter
First of all, congrats on your little bump.
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Megyn Kelly
Congrats on your little bump. What about my bump? You've got two nice ones and these. They are kind of bumps, aren't they? No, not bumps. The lovely lady lumps.
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Co-host/Guest 1
Check it out.
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Megyn Kelly
Thank you. Thank you. Do you like the movie? Are you a Woody Allen fan?
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Zach Peter
I love Woody most of his movies
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Megyn Kelly
and this one was so like visually amazing. Yeah, it's gorgeous. Did you guys love wearing those kind of clothes that you. Yeah, yeah. And you know, working in digital, no one wants to talk about the clothes, but I wonder if they would ask the men about the clothes.
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Zach Peter
I would.
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Megyn Kelly
I love Jesse's. That's what I'm saying. His, his wardrobe was beautiful. Cory's wardrobe, of course, those high waisted pants. He's so great. I would wish men wore high waisted pants still. The father with his, with his, his tank top. So good. Yeah. It's not just the women that, that have the clothes. I feel like the Women get the conversation, but it's like, oh, my God, Zach.
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Zach Peter
Bully, Mean girl. Tone death. Bully. Mean girl. Tone deaf. That is the energy you're getting from that clip. That is really what. What set the Internet on fire. I always said that the. I agreed that. That the little bump video, this video that we just watched, I do agree that that was kind of, you know, the ember that burned down her reputation for sure. But it's because it went viral. And as TikTok does, when something goes viral, then everybody jumps in on the fight, and then everybody shares their battle stories. They share their video clips with Blake, which is what happened. And it just. I think Blake and her team are so out of touch with how digital media works, and now they want to call it digital violence, Digital warfare. The terms that she's using to describe this, which is wild. I mean, she commits digital violence against me every time I have to see her face.
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Megyn Kelly
And the thing about that clip was interesting. It was shot in 2016, but she said it aired. Her employer did air it in the Netherlands, but it got re released. That clip got re released on the Internet right around the time of It Ends with Us. So it was. And that's when it went viral, unfortunately
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Zach Peter
for Blake, because people were speculating what was going on between Justin Blake, because she put him in the basement, she wouldn't have him near the cast, which she knew would cause speculation. And it did, because everybody, like myself, we were wondering, was there any drama on set? And then the most common narrative, because most of us didn't really know who Justin Baldoni was unless you were the biggest Jane the Virgin fan. But most of us were then thinking, was Blake being difficult on set? Is Blake behind this? What was the dynamic? Did they not get along if they're the two love interests in this movie and they're not doing any press together? So that fueled that speculation. And then that's when, you know, Shirsty Flaw came out, and she's like, here's the video. Like, she is a bully. She's always been this way. Here's an old interview clip that I have when, you know, I. I forgot what movie they were doing promo for, but she's like, when she was promoting this film.
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Megyn Kelly
Cafe Society.
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Zach Peter
Yes. And so when she's promoting this film, sure. She's like, here's the whole clip. You know, here's. You can see it. You can see her, you know, basically taking a shot at my body, you know, body shaming me, which. And I believe Shirsty's opened up about it. I think she had some fertility issues, which also just cuts even deeper. So it just.
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Megyn Kelly
It's.
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Zach Peter
It's insane that she's taken it this far from that.
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Megyn Kelly
If you saw nothing else about Blake Lively saw another eclipse, you would know who she was from that clip. You would know that's not. I'm having a bad day. That's. You are a bad person. She had come out publicly with her pregnancy prior to this. She had just come out with it and she was showing. And as the interviewer, obviously you'd love to get her to comment on it on camera. She had just publicly commented on it, so it wasn't off limits. And you'd love for her to be like, oh, yeah, we're so excited. You know, this is our fourth baby and we can't wait. That's it. That's all she had to say. It's a nice way to acknowledge this human life that you are about to bring into the world. Don't be such an asshole, Blake. And then to turn around, I like, oh, you have a nice baby bump. What? And you. You never comment on that. Every man knows you don't say that to a woman. It wasn't real. The girl didn't actually have any sort of a bump. She was just saying it to, like, push her. Push her down. But you never say that because you never know what a woman is going through when it comes to fertility journey. Never say that. And sure enough, she stepped on a rake because this gal was having fertility issues and it was painful for her. And then what you see is, like, Kirsty's interesting to watch in the whole clip because she's, you know, she's a. She's an attractive woman. But, like, across from Blake Lively, most of us look not that great. And so Blake is there, she's gorgeous. Of course, you can't take that away from her. And Christie's sitting there kind of awkward now. She's. She's made to feel awkward by the attack on her. She does. She's not trying to offend Blake. She's actually trying to do a nice interview to make her look good. Talk about your baby. That actually makes you less threatening to women at home, Blake. If you're not an idiot, you'd see that. And instead, she's on the receiving end of now both of them attacking her. And she tries to bridge away, like, oh, that. You know, the fashion. And if you've seen Cafe Society, it is amazing. It goes back in time and it's like a. It's like time travel. And the costuming is absolutely stunning in the movie. So it's a normal thing to remark on, but Blake's got to take it as a sexist slight. You know, she's got it. And it's more evidence of her perceiving an offense and, like, an attack on her where none exists, Zach. Which is right at the heart of everything she's saying against Justin Baldoni. We can watch her doing it to this innocent, sweet journalist before our very eyes. It's a very damning clip for her.
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Zach Peter
It just. It shows you, like you said, exactly who she is. And the fact that she got Parker to jump in on it then adds context to. Yeah. Now when we see Isabella Farrer and Jenny Slate, who are. And Colleen Hoover, like, you see the way Blake, you know, baits you into then sitting there and being a cackling mean girl. And we saw. And again, the hard part is it's not like with this alleged smear campaign, it's not like there were false headlines that were being pushed out about Blake Lively. It's her own behavior, her own words. This is video footage. You're watching her behavior. And so even if that went viral, I mean, we don't know if she says that there's no proof. It's. It's untraceable is the term that she likes to use as to why she can't prove it. Which untraceable really just means lack of evidence, in my opinion. And so for me, it's like, it's your own behavior. Nobody crafted this narrative but you.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah, that is mean girl behavior right there. And then the two of them for the listening audience, Parker Posey and Blake Lively refuse to look at the reporter again. They only look at each other, and they do their little mean girl thing, like, oh, what about this guy's fashion? In that guy's fashion. And also, what about him? He looks, like, fabulous. It's so passive aggressive. Incredible. It oozes passive aggression against their bullies. Because this reporter is of, again, with respect, lesser importance. And I'm just saying, in terms of, like, the world that they're in at the moment, you know, like, these two are the stars. It's. She's lucky to get 10 minutes with them. She's. As a reporter, we're always like the. The lower ones, like, running after access. And a gracious celebrity will pretend that's not the dynamic and that there's an equality in that room. Or if anything, the really gracious ones will actually treat you like you're above Them, you know, like, they're honored to be with you. Which is like, those are the nicest ones. I mean, I could name them on one hand who have done that with me, and it's been so delightful. I mean, the one who's coming to mind, believe it or not, but there are others was Christopher Plummer, Captain von Trapp of Sound of Music, who I got the pleasure of interviewing before he passed. But anyway. But she does exactly the opposite. She commits the ultimate sin, which is she treats her like a serf, and so does Parker Posey. We're not even going to look at you. We're going to mock you and cover you in disdain for having the nerve to ask about a facet of the movie that, unbeknownst to you, we didn't want to talk about.
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Zach Peter
But you also. I mean, you and I have been impressed junkets before. You're given a limited amount of time with these people. Your questions are numbered. And like. And so you're. And when you already have that, I'm sure in. In Shirsty's head, she's already thinking of. Okay, well, of the questions that I had, which ones are not going to offend her? Like, you're throwing her off her game. Then you're eating up all her time as the two of you are just cackling and not giving her any sort of acknowledgment, knowing that there's a limited amount of time that she has with you, and then you're using it to, you know, to troll her essentially right in front of her, eating up this time that she has affecting her job. Because then now she has very little footage that she gets to take back to her news agency that she runs to do her job effectively so that they have a headline or a soundbite or something that they can use.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah, it's so rude. No, I'm actually not pregnant. I'm having trouble getting pregnant. I'm not walking around with Ryan Reynolds baby, having just finished a Woody Allen film in which I was treated like a queen. I don't. I don't have that going on right now, Ms. Lively. I'm sorry. I mean, it's like she should have been thanking this reporter for just holding her tongue, not speaking out about it for years, and letting cafe society hit without this bad publicity. Hitting then. And not sticking the knife in. Because we would have been on. On. Is it shirsty? Is how you pronounce that? Because, yeah, it's, you know, okay, we would have been on Shirsty's side from the beginning, as we all are now. All right, I'm going to take a quick break. We're going to come back. We're not done. Don't go away. Zach. Peter Paying 70, 80, 90amonth to Big Wireless for unlimited data is insane. Especially when Pure Talk is going to give you unlimited high speed Data for just 34.99amonth. Unlimited high speed data at PureTalk used to start at 55 bucks a month, but because Pure Talk is constantly pushing to give you more for less, you can now get unlimited high speed data for just under $35. How about that? So if you've looked at Pure Talk before and didn't make the move, check again. The deal is amazing. And if you're wondering is Pure Talk's network really as good as the overpriced big guys, try it out for 30 days. With no contract and no cancellation fees. You have nothing to lose except all these extra expenses. Their US Customer service team is standing by to help you switch in as little as 10 minutes. You just dial £250 and say Megyn Kelly. That will help you claim this unlimited high speed data for just 34.99. Again, dial £250, say Megyn Kelly to switch to America's wireless company, Pure Talk. If you are exhausted, foggy, anxious, or if your metabolism's flatlined and doctors chalk it up to age, you might just be getting ignorant, ignored. Because that is not necessarily just a part of getting older. And it's why Joy and Blokes exists. Joy was built for women who have been dismissed by the medical establishment for far too long. And Blokes was built for men who are tired of feeling like a shadow of who they used to be. Together, they are changing how men and women take control of their hormonal health. For far too long this has been ignored and it's a hugely important part of how you feel. Every Joy and Blokes lab comes with a 30 to 60 minute consultation with a licensed clinician who specializes in hormones, not an AI chatbot. We have another of those in our lives, an actual expert. They connect what you are feeling to what's actually happening in your body and build you a real personalized plan to fix it. It's time to stop guessing and start getting real answers. Go to joyandblokes.com MK and use code MK for 65 off your labs and 20 off all supplements. That's joyandblokes.com MKand use that code MK to get 65% off your labs and 20% off all supplements. Joy and blokes healthcare that actually listens. UnitedHealth Group is bringing in home treatment directly to patients, closing care gaps, identifying risks earlier and improving patient outcomes. In 2025, patients received over 19 million home visits. Learn more@unitedhealthgroup.com Commitment. Hey everyone, it's me, Megyn Kelly. I've got some exciting news. I now have my very own channel on Sirius xm. It's called the Megyn Kelly Channel. And it is where you will hear the truth unfiltered, with no agenda and no apologies. Along with the Megyn Kelly show, you're gonna hear from people like Mark Halperin, link Lauren, Maureen Callahan, Emily jasinsky, Jesse Kelly, RealClear Politics, and many more. It's bold. No, no BS news only on the Megyn Kelly Channel, SiriusXM 111 and on the Sirius XM app. Zach Peter is back with me. He is the host of no Filter with Zach Peter. So, Zach, we've gone from I'm bringing booty back. Every inch of me is perfect from the bottom to the top. From Meghan Trainor, who celebrated body positivity even for the larger sized girls, to this, we've got Ozempic Meghan Trainor, who is as skinny as they come. Look at this. She is literally unrecognizable in the promo video for her new album which is called Toy with Me. Singing and dancing around she. If she's £120, it's a lot. Putting further evidence to the lie that she was telling us before. She didn't think she was perfect from the bottom to the top. That was a bunch of nonsense. She wanted to be skinny all along, but she was happy to tout obesity and extra weight as a great lifestyle choice, irrespective of what it did to young girls and their health. While all the while she was obviously clearly pining for a skinny body, which she is clearly getting thanks to a shot nowadays. Your thoughts on it?
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Zach Peter
I mean, body positivity sure went right out the window. The second there was convenience, then they just completely obliterated that. I mean, what happened to the days of, of Meghan being so brave? Meghan, she was so brave. And now we're not brave anymore. Like, I don't understand where they, like, they didn't even shift the messaging to like, you know, they just abandoned the whole body positivity narrative. And I mean, even Lizzo's out here perform like posing with her old, her larger body. It's, it's crazy. How much they've just completely abolished the whole body positivity movement.
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Megyn Kelly
Yes, it was all bullshit. Here is Meghan trainor back in 2014 in an interview with the Guardian. Any body type is beautiful. It's all about loving what you got and rocking with it. 2015 interview with Elle magazine. I've always hated the word plus size. It bugs me. When I first signed up with Full Beauty clothing company and I talked to them, I was like, I don't want to be labeled as this plus size girl coming in and they said, absolutely not. We don't like that term either. Which is why we like to say full beauty and why I was immediately excited to work with them. The word plus sized should be gone. It's full beauty. But what we have now is quarter beauty, I guess is she is a quarter of her prior size. And I really wonder what she's going to say now to all the girls who she encouraged to be as fat as they wanted to be. Eat the chips, go for the full Coca Cola, have the second dessert and the second helping who are now looking at this stick figure which were mocked. Stick figures was mock. Were mocked in that song too. Thinking what happened to the rest of her? What happened to embracing your full body and full beauty? Megan, it's just such bullshit. I would have much preferred her to be like, I'm heavy. I wish I could lose the weight but I've struggled and I can't. Than to be like, no, I love being this size. It's beautiful. And then as soon as the damn shot came, she went, yeah.
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Zach Peter
Which just goes to show she didn't love her body. It was total bullshit. She was lying through her teeth trying to convince people of this. But the thing is, and because celebrities love to get on their soapbox and they love to be able to to tote how they're feeling because they're going to change the world, right? So she wanted to be a representation and she wanted to share with the world that it's okay to be a bigger bodied person. And yet then the second that she had an opportunity to just take a shot and let it go away, she did. And. And how is she going to explain that to all the little girls that she told to eat their feelings?
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Megyn Kelly
She mocked stick figure Barbie dolls. That's what she mocked. Let's play that promo one more time. Stick figure Barbie dolls. Look what she looks like now. That's exactly. That seems to have been her motivation for this scene. She's in like tight, tight leggings that go right below her knees for our listening audience. And what looks like a. Like a bathing suit over it. Super tight, tiny waist. And her hair is in one of the ponytails that comes out of the top of your head all blonde and flippy. She looks like a Barbie doll. She's a stick figure Barbie doll. She's a fraud. Were you lying then or are you lying now? Which is it? Who's the real Meghan Trainor? Because you should at least be honest about your 180 on the issue of weight and what's beautiful. You were the one who mocked the stick figures. You, Meghan Trainor. Not. Not the rest of us. You did that. So which is it? Okay, last but not least, the lady. Zach, I saw you recently, like, not understanding the fact that Sheriff Nanos got out there and actually updated us that they had, quote, found Nancy. They released like a flyer and it even looks like Nancy says missing person found Nancy looks like her located. And amazingly, it was someone named Nancy Radakovich who is not Nancy Guthrie. Thoughts on where we are on that case?
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Zach Peter
Wild. I mean, I don't know if they thought that there would be some sort of narrative spin where people would misinterpret it, but the level of outrage, I was outraged at first when I saw that they found Nancy. And they don't. They don't list the last name. They just say Nancy has been located. That was the exact post that. That the Pima County Sheriff's Department released Nancy has been located. And then I actually looked into the case once I found out that they had Nancy 2.0 and it wasn't the OG Nancy. And then I found out that this lady was barely even missing. She was gone for a couple of hours. They reported her missing at 3:50 and then she was home by 4 or by 7:50 that same day. The lady wasn't even. That lady wasn't even missing. I want them to find the real Nancy.
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Megyn Kelly
The lady. Do you think they ever will?
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Jesse Kelly
No.
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Zach Peter
And if they do, they're not going to have a shred of any, you know, the body I think will be too done, unfortunately. I just think if she was going to be found by now, they would have found her by now. If they wanted to find her by now, she would have been found by now.
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Megyn Kelly
Sadly, that is how it feels. Zach, Peter, love your coverage. Thank you so much for giving us a laugh and your insights as always.
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Zach Peter
Thank you, Megan.
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Megyn Kelly
All right, guys, we are back on Monday and taking your mail on the matter. What do you think of Meghan trainor? Email me meganaganchelly.com and while you're there, you can go to megankelly.com and sign up for our once a week newsletter. It comes out today. It's got all the behind the scenes stuff and news of the day that you want. Thanks for listening to the Megyn Kelly Show. No bs, no agenda and no fear.