Trump Hits Back at MTG, Wind Farm Freeze Blocked, Court Backs Trans Military Ban: AM Update 12/10

Summary

The Megyn Kelly Show: AM Update – December 10, 2025

Episode Title: Trump Hits Back at MTG, Wind Farm Freeze Blocked, Court Backs Trans Military Ban
Host: Emily Jasinsky
Date: December 10, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Megyn Kelly Show’s AM Update, hosted by Emily Jasinsky, delivers a fast-paced rundown of the latest political and legal headlines. The main themes include former President Donald Trump’s escalating feud with Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, major court rulings on wind energy policy and the transgender military ban, and developments in the Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein files saga.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump vs. Marjorie Taylor Greene: The Feud Continues

[02:27 – 05:43]

• Trump sat down with Politico’s Dasha Burns for a candid interview, directly responding to Marjorie Taylor Greene’s (MTG) attacks over his foreign policy focus and his recent White House meeting with the President of Syria.
• MTG criticized Trump for hosting a leader allegedly tied to jihadist movements, advocating that he concentrate on domestic issues.
• Trump responded with insults and justifications for his foreign trips, emphasizing the economic benefits those trips brought to the United States:
  • Trump: “I brought back trillions of dollars on that one trip. … I brought back $3 trillion from the Middle East.” [03:23–04:02]
  • He dismissed critics as “stupid people,” specifically targeting “Marjorie Trader Greene.”
• MTG countered on CNN, expressing pity for Trump and condemning what she describes as toxic, vitriolic leadership:
  • MTG: “It has to be a hard place for someone that is constantly so hateful and puts so much vitriol name calling and really tells lies about people in order to try to get his way or win some kind of fight.” [05:00]
• The segment illustrates worsening public fractures within the MAGA wing of the GOP.

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2. Birthright Citizenship and the 14th Amendment

[05:43 – 07:21]

• Trump defended his executive order limiting birthright citizenship, interpreting the 14th Amendment as intended only for “babies of slaves”:
  • Trump: “That case was meant for the babies of slaves. … That case was not meant for some rich person coming from another country, dropping, putting a foot in our country, and all of a sudden their whole family becomes … citizens.” [06:30]
• The Supreme Court will hear further arguments on the legality and intent behind this executive order.
• The decision could impact millions, with arguments expected in spring and a ruling anticipated in the summer of 2026.

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3. Wind Farm Policy Freeze Overturned in Federal Court

[07:27 – 10:17]

• A federal judge blocked Trump’s executive order halting new or renewed offshore wind energy leases.
• The order, signed at the start of Trump’s current term, had caused a freeze in permitting, stalling development across multiple states.
• Plaintiffs (17 states and clean energy advocates) argued the order was “arbitrary and unnecessary.”
• Judge Patty Sarris ruled the administration failed to provide a “reasoned explanation” per the Administrative Procedure Act.
• Trump’s own views on wind energy were aired:
  • Trump (Sept. UN speech): “The wind doesn’t blow. Those big windmills are so pathetic and so bad, so expensive to operate. … Energy, you’re supposed to make money with energy, not lose money.” [09:03]
• New York AG Letitia James hailed the ruling as a big win for clean energy, but the ultimate legal outcome remains uncertain.

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4. Ghislaine Maxwell Grand Jury Materials to Be Released

[11:14 – 16:59]

• Judge Paul Engelmeier approved DOJ's request to release grand jury records from the Ghislaine Maxwell case, as required by the new Epstein Files Transparency Act.
  • These materials reportedly do not implicate “clients” or reveal new criminal methods.
• Legal analyst Phil Holloway weighed in:
  • Holloway: “Grand jury proceedings are traditionally secret for several reasons, primarily to protect innocent people from reputational harm.” [13:11]
  • He cautioned this openness could discourage witness candor in future grand juries:
    • “If Congress turns around and basically removes that confidentiality every time … then nobody is going to feel comfortable … to really go in and be truthful.” [14:57]
  • Holloway downplayed the likelihood of “bombshell revelations,” warning much of the raw data may disappoint those anticipating a “client list”:
    • “What we’re going to get is … transcripts and things like that, and it’s going to be probably very dissatisfying for a lot of people, I think.” [15:53]

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5. Appeals Court Upholds Transgender Military Ban

[16:59 – 19:29]

• The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals allowed the administration’s ban on transgender military service (initiated by Secretary of War Pete Hagseth) to take effect during ongoing legal challenges.
• Trump’s order, titled “Prioritizing Military Excellence and Readiness,” cited historical military standards excluding those with gender dysphoria.
• Notable judicial remarks:
  • Majority ruling: “The United States military enforces strict medical standards to ensure that only physically and mentally fit individuals join its ranks.” [Summary of decision]
• The decision drew a strong dissent:
  • Dissenting Judge Cornelia Pillard: “The ban … brands all transgender people without regard to individual merit as unworthy to serve … solely because they are transgender.”
• The case is expected to proceed to higher courts.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Trump, on MTG:
  “Like Marjorie Trader Greene or some people call her Taylor Greene, some people call her Taylor Brown because green sometimes turns to brown, which isn’t nice.” [03:23]
• MTG, on Trump’s behavior:
  “I feel very sorry for President Trump. I genuinely do. … That’s poor leadership from a president. It’s a very bad demeanor and Americans are very tired of it.” [05:00]
• Trump, on wind energy:
  “The wind doesn’t blow. Those big windmills are so pathetic and so bad, so expensive to operate. Then they have to be rebuilt all the time and they start to rust and rot.” [09:03]
• Phil Holloway, on the Epstein files release:
  “Grand jury proceedings are traditionally secret for several reasons, primarily to protect innocent people from reputational harm.” [13:11]
  “What we’re going to get is we’re going to get raw material, we’re going to get transcripts and things like that. And it’s going to be probably very dissatisfying for a lot of people, I think.” [15:53]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Feud Between Trump and MTG: 02:27–05:43
• Birthright Citizenship Executive Order: 05:43–07:21
• Wind Farm Policy Ruling: 07:27–10:17
• Ghislaine Maxwell Grand Jury Materials: 11:14–16:59
• Transgender Military Ban Upheld: 16:59–19:29

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

The episode is brisk, direct, and covers contentious, high-stakes issues. The tone reflects the sharp divisions in contemporary politics—Trump deploying characteristic bluster and name-calling; MTG denouncing toxicity and demanding a focus on domestic issues; legal experts warning of precedent and privacy risks in transparency moves. The coverage is fast-paced and presents key viewpoints and legal rationale on each story, making it accessible to listeners without overwhelming legal or policy jargon.

Transcript

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[Emily Jasinsky]

Good morning everyone. I'm Emily Jasinsky, host of Afterparty and the Megyn Kelly Wrap Up show on Sirius XM channel 111. It's Wednesday, December 10, 2025 and this is your AM update.

[Donald Trump]

Stupid people like Marjorie Trader Greene I.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Feel very sorry for President Trump.

[Emily Jasinsky]

President Trump and Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene showing no sign of de escalating their feud as the President joins Politico for a sit down. A federal judge strikes down President Trump's executive order putting a stop to wind farm permitting.

[Phil Holloway]

It may make people look bad, it may make people look suspicious.

[Emily Jasinsky]

A judge approves the release of grand jury materials connected to the Ghislaine Maxwell investigation and a US Appeals court sides with Secretary of War Pete Hagseth on the transgender military ban. All that and more coming up in just a moment. On your AM update.

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[Emily Jasinsky]

President Trump sitting down with POLITICO's Dasha Burns yesterday for a wide ranging interview. And it doesn't appear the feud with former friend now foe Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia is getting buried anytime soon. President Trump issuing a lengthy defense to criticism levied by Congresswoman Mtg who in mid November criticized the president for hosting the president of Syria, a man previously tied to jihadist movements at the White House. Congresswoman Greene posting on X the new leader of Syria is a former Al Qaeda terrorist wanted by our government. I would really like to see nonstop meetings at the White House on domestic policy, not foreign policy and foreign countries leaders. Start by hauling in the health insurance company's executives and let's start formulating our Republican plan to save America from Obamacare and and ACA tax credits that have skyrocketed the cost of health insurance. President Trump responding I've watched stupid people.

[Donald Trump]

Like Marjorie Trader Greene or some people call her Taylor Greene, some people call her Taylor Brown because green sometimes turns to brown, which isn't nice. But I've watched her say that he spends too much time on foreign well by doing that. First of all, it doesn't take a lot of time. I made one trip, I brought back trillions of dollars on that one trip. I stopped in Japan, I stopped in South Korea. I met with President Xi and ended.

[Emily Jasinsky]

You went to the Middle East. I was on that trip with.

[Donald Trump]

You went to the Middle East. I brought back $3 trillion from the Middle East.

[Emily Jasinsky]

The president then highlighting a list of trade deals and other agreements made with other countries, arguing that work is to the direct benefit of US Citizens. Dasha Burns pressing the issue harder. That's just what some, some of your supporters and some others have said.

[Donald Trump]

Well then, you know, I can't imagine they're supporters because I made a fortune and spent very little time. All of my time is spent here. So some people would say don't focus on anything outside of our border. I like that too. But I've made trillions and trillions of dollars and solve problems and solved wars. Do you know most of the wars that I solved were solved sitting behind the Oval Office desk on a telephone. I think that those are worthy phone calls even if they didn't impact us to save millions of lives from another country. And if I can do that easily because I have inability are pretty good.

[Emily Jasinsky]

Congresswoman Mtg hitting back at President Trump's criticisms yesterday morning on cnn.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

I feel very sorry for President Trump. I genuinely do. It has to be a hard place for someone that is constantly so hateful and puts so much vitriol name calling and really tells lies about people in order to try to get his way or win some kind of fight. And I think that's exactly what's wrong in America today. That's what's wrong in this toxic political environment that has ripped our country apart. And I personally think that that's poor leadership from a president. It's a very bad demeanor and Americans are very tired of it.

[Emily Jasinsky]

Elsewhere in the interview, President Trump discussing his birthright citizenship executive order, the 14th amendment of the Constitution, ratified post Civil War in 1868. Reading all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. President Trump issuing a day one executive order clarifying that quote, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, excludes babies born in the US to parents here illegally or temporarily. The order challenged on multiple fronts, winding through the system, with the Supreme Court last week agreeing to hear more arguments on the merits of the case. President Trump offering more on his interpretation of the amendment to Politico.

[Donald Trump]

The case is very interesting because that case was meant for the babies of slaves. And if you look at the dates on the case, it was exactly having to do with the Civil War. That case was not meant for some rich person coming from another country, dropping, putting a foot in our country, and all of a sudden their whole family becomes, you know, United States citizens. That case is all about slaves, the babies of slaves. And it was a good reason for doing it. And that's all it was about. And people now are understanding it. It's been explained to them, and I think the court understands it, too. That would be a devastating decision if we lose that case, that court you've put, because our country cannot afford to house tens of millions of people that came in through birthright citizenship.

[Emily Jasinsky]

Arguments on that case will likely be heard in the spring, with a decision coming later in the summer.

A federal judge on Monday blocking President Trump's executive order halting new wind energy projects requiring federal permits. The order, signed on day one of Trump 2.0, freezing new or renewed offshore wind leases as the administration launched a review of federal permitting. Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum also called on to review existing wind energy leases, per the order since taking effect. Many offshore wind developers and projects on federal lands stuck in limbo awaiting the necessary permitting or outright canceled. Monday's ruling is the result of a lawsuit filed in May by a group of 17 states, Washington, D.C. and the nonprofit alliance for Clean Energy New York, led by New York Attorney General Letitia James, calling the order, quote, arbitrary and unnecessary and arguing it created a, quote, existential threat to the wind industry. The Trump administration countering that the lawsuit amounted to a policy dispute over wind versus fossil fuels that federal courts cannot referee. Clinton appointed Judge Patty Sarris of the District of Massachusetts, siding with the states, ruling that the administration never provided the, quote, reasoned explanation required under the Administrative Procedure act to halt wind leases, saying instead the Interior Department acted only because President Trump ordered it to. President Trump, a leading critic of wind energy, attacking it repeatedly throughout the campaign and increasing the pressure once retaking office. Here a moment from the president's September address to the UN General Assembly.

[Donald Trump]

The wind doesn't blow. Those big windmills are so pathetic and so bad, so expensive to operate. Then they have to be rebuilt all the time and they start to rust and rot. Most expensive energy ever conceived. And it's actually energy. You're supposed to make money with energy, not lose money. You lose money the governments have to subsidize. You can't put them out without massive subsidies.

[Emily Jasinsky]

AG James responding to the ruling on Monday, quote, this is a big victory in our fight to keep tackling the climate crisis and protect one of our best sources of clean, reliable and affordable energy. The broader impact of the ruling is uncertain due to the complex web of agencies, executive orders and policies involved in the permitting process. It is not yet clear if the administration plans to appeal, but a White House spokesman issuing a statement in defense of the president's executive order, quote, under Joe Biden's green new scam, offshore wind projects were given unfair preferential treatment while the rest of the energy industry was hindered by burdensome regulations. President Trump has ended Joe Biden's war on American energy and unleashed America's energy dominance to protect our economic and national security.

Coming up, a judge agrees to allow the DOJ to release grand jury materials related to the Ghislaine Maxwell investigation. And an appeals court keeps the Trump administration's ban on transgender service members in place.

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[Emily Jasinsky]

A federal judge in New York Yesterday granting the DOJ's request to unseal grand jury records and other information from the Ghislaine Maxwell investigation. Maxwell is the former girlfriend of disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, currently serving a 20 year prison sentence for her role in Jeffrey Epstein's sexual abuse and her own misconduct. Attorney General Pam Bondi's initial request to unseal the records denied earlier this year due to grand jury secrecy protections. AG Bondi requesting the release again last month on an expedited basis following the passage of the Epstein Files Transparency act, which requires the DOJ to release all materials in its possession relating to the Epstein and Maxwell cases, with limited exception to by December 19th. Obama appointed Judge Paul Engelmeier for the Southern District of Manhattan, citing the newly passed act in his decision to now approve the release of the records. A separate judge in the Southern District of Florida last week approving the release of grand jury materials from that jurisdiction's investigation into Epstein. That investigation beginning in 2005 leading to his conviction on state charges in a highly controversial plea deal. AG Bondi also seeking the release of materials from a third judge relating to the 2019 sex trafficking charges against Epstein. That judge has yet to issue a ruling. Judge Engelmeier writing Tuesday, the grand jury materials, quote, do not discuss or identify any client of Epstein's or Maxwell's. They do not reveal any heretofore unknown means of methods of Epstein's or Maxwell's crimes prior to releasing any of the newly obtained records. Epstein the DOJ stating it will coordinate with victims and their legal teams about any redactions to protect their identities and privacy. We spoke with MK True Crime legal analyst Phil Holloway on what the public can expect with these coming disclosures.

[Phil Holloway]

Grand jury proceedings are traditionally secret for several reasons, primarily to protect innocent people from reputational harm. If it becomes public that a grand jury is representing someone who, for example, turns out to be innocent, sometimes the stigma from that investigation will just never go away. But it's also important to keep grand jury material and investigation secret to protect the integrity of the investigation because you don't want to have people who are targets of these things, perhaps destroying evidence or fleeing from the jurisdiction in anticipation of an indictment and things of that nature. So what Congress has done is they have taken that traditional rule that goes back to the English common law, flipped it on its end and say, okay, now the DOJ can disclose all of this stuff.

[Emily Jasinsky]

Holloway contends most of the major facts are already known, but whatever is left to release may pull back the curtain on elements of Epstein's world.

[Phil Holloway]

I think they're going to reveal a lot into the sort of the lifestyle that Epstein and those in his orbit were living. I think it's going to reveal financial information about Epstein and a lot of people in his orbit. And it's also going to reveal communications which a lot of people, people might find very interesting, salacious. It may make people look bad, it may make people look suspicious. But we have to remember that there's people that this grand jury looked at that the grand jury decided not to charge with anything. So we have to take it all. With that idea in mind.

[Emily Jasinsky]

Holloway outlines some possible unintended consequences of Congress's intervention compelling the release of the grand jury materials.

[Phil Holloway]

One of the reasons grand jury proceedings are secret is to encourage candor. And by that I mean witnesses are more likely to speak freely and truthfully without fear or fear of retaliation or any kind of pressure if they know and believe going into it that their testimony is going to be confidential. If Congress turns around and basically removes that confidentiality every time there's public outcry, then nobody is going to feel comfortable enough to, to really go in and be truthful and perhaps entirely candid when they testify at a grand jury. So this particular case needs to be seen as an isolated incident. We're not going to see the Congress basically opening up all grand juries in the future.

[Emily Jasinsky]

Overall, Holloway expects the upcoming document dump may disappoint those hoping for shocking revelations.

[Phil Holloway]

I think that there's so much speculation already circulating in the public discourse. There are people who believe that there are say client lists, okay, there's this like one master list of all of Epstein's clients. Well, that doesn't exist. What we're going to get is we're going to get raw material, we're going to get transcripts and things like that. And it's going to be probably very dissatisfying for a lot of people, I think. And so there's going to be people because of that who will believe that there is still some type of conspiracy, some type of COVID up even after everything is released. There will be people who will be very dissatisfied once all is said and done. Hopefully at some point we can move on from Epstein and learn from this. We need to I think overall maybe have some more transparency in the criminal justice system at large. But I don't think it needs to go so far as to open opening law enforcement case files every time there's a high profile defendant.

[Emily Jasinsky]

A federal appeals court yesterday allowing Secretary of War Pete Hexess ban on so called transgender men and women from serving in the US Military to go into effect while a challenge to the policy plays out in the courts. In a 2:1 ruling, the U.S. court of Appeals for the D.C. circuit ruling the ban is, quote, likely constitutional because it reflects a considered judgment of military leaders and furthers legitimate military interests. President Trump signing the executive order in January called Prioritizing Military Excellence and readiness, citing DoD policy ensuring service members are, quote, free of medical conditions or physical defects that may reasonably be expected to require excessive time lost from duty for necessary treatment or hospitalization. The order directing the Pentagon to update its medical and personnel standards within 60 days. Hagseth then updating guidelines effectively banning individuals who identify as transgender from military service. U.S. district Court Judge Ana Reyes, a Biden appointee, ruling against the Trump administration and issuing an injunction blocking the order from taking effect after an opponent sued to halt its implementation. The Trump administration took the case to the D.C. circuit Court of Appeals. And yesterday, Trump appointed Judges Gregory Katzis and Naomi Rao, finding the ban to be consistent with past military standards, noting it has been changed before, writing, quote, the United States military enforces strict medical standards to ensure that only physically and mentally fit individuals join its ranks. For decades, these requirements barred service by individuals with gender dysphoria, a medical condition associated with clinically significant distress. This bar was partially relaxed in 2016, revived in 2018, partially relaxed again in 2021 and revived again in 2025. The judge is also determining the judiciary branch must tread carefully when asked to second guess considered military judgments of the political branches. Obama appointed Judge Cornelia Pillard, writing in her dissent, the ban, quote, brands all transgender people without regard to individual merit as unworthy to serve in our armed forces solely because they are transgender. The underlying lawsuit now continuing, where it's expected to again reach the D.C. court of Appeals and possibly even the U.S. supreme Court before it concludes.

That'll do it for your AM update. I'm Emily Drushinski, host of Afterparty. Catch the Megyn Kelly show live on SiriusXM's the Megyn Kelly Channel 111 at noon east on YouTube.com megankelli and all podcast platforms.

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