The Megyn Kelly Show
Episode: Trump Warns Iran and Israel on Ceasefire, MAGA Divide, and NYC's Potential Socialist Rapper Mayor, with The Fifth Column | Ep. 1094
Release Date: June 24, 2025
1. Introduction
In this episode of The Megyn Kelly Show, host Megyn Kelly engages in a robust discussion with guests from The Fifth Column Podcast—Michael Moynihan, Camille Foster, and Matt Walsh. The conversation centers around the tumultuous developments in the Middle East involving President Trump's attempts to broker a ceasefire between Iran and Israel, the internal fractures within the MAGA movement, and the alarming prospects of a socialist mayoral candidate in New York City.
2. President Trump's Ceasefire Efforts Between Iran and Israel
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Megyn Kelly opens the episode by highlighting President Trump's latest diplomatic endeavor: an announcement on Truth Social declaring a "complete and total ceasefire" between Iran and Israel set to take effect within six hours. However, the ceasefire quickly faces challenges as Iran launches a series of missile attacks just before its implementation, resulting in the deaths of at least four Israelis and injuring 26 more.
Megyn Kelly:
"It seems President Trump announced last night on Truth Social that Israel and Iran agreed on a, quote, complete and total ceasefire that would take effect in six hours. But shortly after that was set to take effect, Iran launched a wave of missiles at Israel, reportedly killing at least four."
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3. Analysis with The Fifth Column
a. Michael Moynihan on Diplomatic Signals and Historical Context
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Michael Moynihan commends Trump's decision to take decisive action despite potential fractures within his coalition. He emphasizes that Trump's approach—combining strong rhetoric with tangible military action—is a departure from typical presidential responses and has received unexpected support even from traditionally critical figures like former diplomat Brett McGurk.
Moynihan:
"Only Trump paired words with deeds. Only Trump sent Ayatollah Khamenei reeling... Only Trump actually did something about it."
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He draws parallels with past U.S. interventions, notably the Gulf War and the prolonged engagement in Iraq, cautioning against temporary optimism based on military successes that may not translate into lasting peace.
b. Camille Foster on Middle East Stability and U.S. Intervention
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Camille Foster discusses the complex dynamics of U.S. involvement in the Middle East, stressing that true stability requires acknowledging the entrenched conflicts that neither Iran nor Israel can easily resolve. She expresses skepticism about the durability of the current ceasefire and underscores the unpredictable nature of regional politics.
Foster:
"We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Do you understand that?"
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c. Matt Walsh on Trump's Foreign Policy and Internal Fractures
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Matt Walsh explores the internal divisions within the MAGA movement, particularly focusing on reactions to Trump's foreign policy decisions. He references a post by Matthew Continetti, highlighting Trump's unique stance compared to his predecessors in actively confronting Iran's nuclear ambitions.
Walsh:
"Only Trump actually did something about it. But in terms of actually stopping these two from fighting and launching missiles at each other and bombs, I, I'm not hopeful."
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He also touches upon the rising tensions between different factions within the Republican Party, including disputes involving prominent figures like Tucker Carlson and John Continetti.
4. New York City's Mayoral Race: The Rise of a Socialist Candidate
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The discussion shifts to the looming Democratic primary for New York City's mayoral race, where socialist candidate Zoran Mamdani appears poised to challenge the disgraced former Governor Andrew Cuomo. Polls and market odds suggest Mamdani may secure a victory, raising alarms among listeners about the potential shift towards socialist policies in one of America's largest cities.
Walsh:
"He wants a $30 minimum wage... He wants no more police. He wants social workers instead."
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The guests express deep concerns over Mamdani's policy proposals, drawing parallels to failed socialist experiments in other major cities and emphasizing the dire economic implications for New York City should he prevail.
5. Internal Republican Party Dynamics and MAGA Fractures
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The conversation delves into the recent fractures within the Republican Party, highlighting debates over foreign policy and Trump's leadership style. The hosts discuss the tension between isolationist factions and traditional Republicans, referencing interactions between influential commentators like Tucker Carlson and Michael Moynihan.
Moynihan:
"We're going to wait for the reporting and for the historians in a couple of years on this because it seems... contentious."
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They examine how Trump's unilateral decisions, such as the strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, are redefining allegiances and challenging the coherence of the MAGA movement.
6. Concluding Remarks
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As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the broader implications of Trump's foreign policy decisions and the internal struggles within the Republican Party. They underscore the uncertainty surrounding the Middle East ceasefire and the potential repercussions of New York City's mayoral race moving in a socialist direction.
Walsh:
"We absolutely have. I mean, I can, I understand the Tulsi's of the world and the JD Vance's of the world who I think probably secretly share Tucker's belief..."
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Megyn Kelly closes by reiterating the show's commitment to open, honest, and provocative conversations without agendas or fears, inviting listeners to stay tuned for future episodes tackling these pressing issues.
Notable Quotes:
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Megyn Kelly on Ceasefire Breakdown:
"It seems President Trump announced last night on Truth Social that Israel and Iran agreed on a, quote, complete and total ceasefire..."
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Matt Walsh on Trump's Action:
"Only Trump actually did something about it."
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Camille Foster on Enduring Conflict:
"We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing."
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Michael Moynihan on Historical Lessons:
"These are people that never say anything positive about Trump. And is that I think you're absolutely right about something that I, for one..."
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Matt Walsh on MAGA Leadership:
"The era of impunity is over."
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Michael Moynihan on Party Fractures:
"There are people who believe this is what MAGA is, and there are people who are trying to direct MAGA."
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This episode provides a comprehensive analysis of the precarious state of Middle East diplomacy, the evolving dynamics within the Republican Party, and the troubling prospects of a socialist administration in New York City. The insights from The Fifth Column guests offer a critical perspective on President Trump's strategies and the broader implications for American politics and international relations.
