The Megyn Kelly Show

Episode 1188 (Nov 6, 2025): Tucker Carlson on Interviewing Fuentes, America First, Demons, and UFOs – "Megyn Kelly Live" From New York

Overview

This episode is a live event featuring Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson in New York, blending current political commentary, spirited discussions of media controversies, and unexpected dives into spiritual and paranormal phenomena. The main focuses include the aftermath of recent elections, the divisive topic of "platforming" controversial figures (specifically Carlson’s interview with Nick Fuentes), reflections on American society, Christianity, and a candid conversation about their careers post-cable news. The show maintains Kelly’s no-nonsense, provocative style and is enriched by Carlson’s signature candor and philosophical depth.

Key Discussion Points

1. Election Analysis & State of Republicans (00:00–08:54)

• Megyn opens with frustration over recent election results, criticizing both Democratic victors (notably Zoram Mamdani and J. Jones) and the GOP’s inability to win without Trump.
• GOP’s path forward: Kelly emphasizes Republicans need a new strategy, praising activist Scott Pressler and lamenting California’s lack of Republican representation.
  • “These Republicans...do you really believe the Republican Party knows how to win without Trump? No. Me neither. It's depressing.” (07:20)
• Political silver linings: She wryly notes that a far-left figure like Mamdani as a Democrat “poster boy” could benefit Republicans, exposing extremism on the left.

2. Q&A With the Audience (08:54–21:48)

• On Mocking The View: Kelly defends satirizing political opponents as cathartic and essential for conservatives’ morale (09:19–09:22).
• Student With a Trans Teacher: Kelly advises discretion and resilience, warning, “Pronouns are rohypnal...they dull [your brain’s] natural sense of urgency and safety.” (12:28)
• Gay Conservative’s Dilemma: Encourages inclusivity within conservatism and argues the right is more accepting of LGB individuals than the TQ crowd, critiquing far-left gender activism (13:32).
• Platforming Nick Fuentes: Kelly is challenged about consistency on “platforming” controversial figures, teeing up the deeper discussion with Tucker Carlson (16:33).
• Election Security: Kelly expresses skepticism regarding mail-in voting and the integrity of the process, echoing Trump’s concerns (20:00).

3. Tucker Carlson’s Interview Segment

3.1. On Interviewing Nick Fuentes and Platforming Controversy (35:14–54:13)

• Background: Tucker reveals personal animosity with Fuentes due to attacks on his family, but, upon learning of Fuentes’s influence, decided to interview him out of journalistic curiosity.
  • “Nick Fuentes is the single most influential commentator among young men. Like, period.” (37:23)
  • Carlson reflects on interviewing controversial or even “bad” people as part of journalism (38:43), referencing interviewing Liberian cannibals.
• The Moral Center of the West: Tucker delivers a long, passionate account of individual vs. collective guilt, stating:
  • “Western civilization is derived from the New Testament...we do not punish the innocent, we only punish the guilty.” (40:25)
  • “That is the basis of a justice system...That’s why antisemitism is wrong. It’s why racism is wrong...the whole idea of thinking of people as members of tribes...is prima facie immoral.” (41:41)
• Defending His Approach:
  • “Do your own interview the way that you want to do it. You’re not my editor. Buzz off.” (47:55)
  • Carlson is unapologetic about his journalistic style—listening rather than “yelling at” the subject and letting them lay out their own case.
  • He admits some second thoughts about not addressing particular offensive remarks but stands by his overall method (49:25).
• Why Fuentes is So Influential: The conversation pivots to how the right’s obsession with foreign affairs (notably Israel) and both parties’ failings to support young men pushed them toward voices like Fuentes.
  • “Part of the reason is because the Republican Party completely betrayed its voters by obsessing over Israel...And if you say anything about it, it's like, you're a Nazi.” (51:05)
• Memorable quote:
  • “No, you're not better than me. No, you're not worse than me because of how you were born. You're the same as me because we were both created by God, period.” (45:00–45:12)

3.2. The Israel Discourse and America First (54:13–56:55)

• Argument: Both agree Israel discourse is over-dominant on the right and hinders discussion of core American issues.
  • “This is taking over the discussion on the right...We really have our own problems that we need to worry about.” (56:55)
• America First: Carlson frames “America First” as a philosophy opposed by vested foreign policy interests, not as code for anti-Semitism.

3.3. On Cancel Culture, Heritage Foundation, and Right-Wing ‘Wokeness’ (72:33–76:32)

• Right-wing Deplatforming: Carlson and Kelly lament Heritage Foundation’s internal meltdown over Carlson “normalizing” Fuentes and general right-wing imitation of leftist cancellation tactics.
  • “It’s woke on the right...they actually want you to say the thing. I mean, they're doing it to me...” (72:35)
  • “They're also scaring the crap out of people...I think that's evil.” (73:59)
• Kelly:
  • “All he did was say, I am not going to disavow Tucker...and they're now dragging him, like in Game of Thrones...shame, shame style.” (73:50)

3.4. Christianity, Spiritual Warfare, and Demons (80:17–93:01)

• Carlson recounts how witnessing politics shift toward cultural destruction (e.g., celebrating abortion, radical gender policies) led him to recognize the reality of supernatural evil—a “spiritual battle” at the heart of modern malaise.
• He emphasizes the transformative impact reading the entire Bible had on him and shares a gripping story of experiencing a demonic attack, complete with claw marks.
  • “Evil flows through people and destroys the people...not just the victims, but also the person through whom it flows.” (91:05)
  • “So much of what we experience is from outside of ourselves. We are acted upon constantly, constantly by the spiritual realm.” (91:52)

3.5. UFOs as Spiritual Phenomena (93:01–99:16)

• Carlson makes the case—after significant research and off-the-record conversations—that UFOs, UAPs, are not just physical or foreign tech but spiritual entities.
  • “These are spiritual phenomena. Obviously, they've been here forever. There's a lot of evidence...they're angels and demons, of course.” (93:18)
  • He points to rituals like cattle mutilations as evidence, connecting ancient religious practices of sacrifice to contemporary unexplained phenomena.

3.6. Life After Cable News, Freedom, and Happiness (99:16–108:25)

• Both Kelly and Carlson describe life after corporate media as liberating, freeing them from the “cult” of news television.
  • “You do start feeling free, free, free...and before you know it, this thing creeps over you, and I think they call it happiness.” (104:47)
  • Carlson: “When I left, I was like, man, I can say whatever I want. And actually, it made me feel less angry...I'm way less mad.” (103:13)
• They reflect humorously and candidly on industry rituals, Fox News’ internal politics, and their journeys to independent media.

3.7. Advice for Young Men (108:52–113:28)

• Recognizing despair among young men, Carlson stresses their intrinsic value and necessity for society and encourages connecting meaningfully with women.
  • “Society can't exist without you. You're essential, and you've been told the opposite in subtle and explicit ways—that you're not needed, and that your innate qualities...are somehow offensive, and that's a lie.” (109:35)
  • “No man can fully become himself without a woman, and no woman can become fully herself without a man. They need each other...” (111:39)

3.8. On Family and Love (113:28–116:12)

• Both recount how crucial their spouses and families are, not only for happiness but as necessary anchors through the trials of public life.
  • “If you can find love in your life...you also get the benefits of...having this life partner who's got you, you know, who's just got you.” (114:48)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On platforming:

  • “Diane Sawyer interviewed Jeffrey Dahmer. Like, we do that as journalists.” – Megyn Kelly (16:56)
  • “I just want to understand what people think, and I'm committed to that. And if you don't like it, don't watch.” – Tucker Carlson (47:55)

• On Western values and collective guilt:

  • “We do not punish the innocent, we only punish the guilty. That is Western civilization. That's a Christian understanding, does not derive from any other religion.” – Carlson (40:43–41:50)

• On cancel culture (right and left):

  • “How is that different from the woke stuff? It's exactly the same.” – Tucker Carlson (72:33)

• On spiritual warfare:

  • “You really feel God's presence, which is marked by peace and true empathy...and then they're followed by some wild attack.” – Carlson (88:17)

• On the post-cable news era:

  • “You do start feeling free, free, free...I think they call it happiness.” – Kelly (104:47)

• Advice for young men:

  • “When you find the right woman as a young man, that is the most important thing. So pursue that single mindedly.” – Carlson (113:07)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Election Rant & GOP Analysis: 00:00–08:54
• Audience Q&A: 08:54–21:48
• Kelly’s Intro on Tucker: 21:48–32:41
• Tucker Joins the Stage: 35:14
• On Interviewing Fuentes & Platforming: 36:12–54:13
• Israel/America First Debate: 54:13–56:55
• Cancel Culture & Heritage Foundation: 72:33–76:32
• Christianity & Demons: 80:17–93:01
• UFOs as Spiritual Phenomena: 93:01–99:16
• Freedom After Cable News: 99:16–105:25
• Advice to Young Men / Family: 108:52–116:12

Final Takeaways

This live episode features Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson at their most candid, addressing political polarization, identity politics, spiritual renewal, and the cultural war over speech and platforming. Carlson’s defense of interviewing the controversial Nick Fuentes sets off a wide-ranging discussion—intellectual, spiritual, often deeply personal—on what is threatening Western society, the role of Christianity, and the imperative to defend individual dignity and truth, regardless of the mob’s demands.

The tone blends biting satire with earnest moral reflection, making the episode an essential listen for anyone interested in the current state (and existential struggles) of the American right, media independence, and the nature of good and evil in public life.