The Megyn Kelly Show — “Tucker, Shapiro, Don Jr., Erika Kirk & More: Megyn Kelly Looks Back at Memorable Tour Moments”

Episode 1203 | November 28, 2025

Overview

In this special episode, Megyn Kelly revisits the most memorable and news-making moments from “The Megyn Kelly Live Tour,” which traveled across the country showcasing open, honest, and provocative conversations with some of the biggest figures in politics, media, and culture. She features highlights from her discussions with Donald Trump Jr., Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, Piers Morgan, Erika Kirk, Maureen Callahan, and more. The episode delves into themes of grief and resilience, the shifting landscape of conservative politics, cancel culture and wokeness, free speech, media feuds, identity politics, and deeply personal stories of loss and faith.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Grief, Resilience & Legacy: Donald Trump Jr. & Erika Kirk

Dealing with Trauma and Adversity (03:18–12:57)

• Megyn introduces the tour’s context amid the tragic death of Charlie Kirk, discussing whether to proceed with the tour as planned.
• Donald Trump Jr. reflects on Charlie Kirk’s legacy, his talent, and why it was more important than ever to continue:

  “The best way to honor Charlie’s legacy is…to be unafraid, to not back down.” (03:47)

• Don Jr. shares the personal impact of surviving numerous subpoenas, impeachments, and even assassination attempts on his father:

  “I’ve done more hours of congressional testimony, you know, for treason…a crime punishable by death. That became like my average Tuesday. You know, it’s like, they’re going to try to kill you again, Don. I’m like, it’s fine. Can I catch lunch first?” (07:04)

• The Trump family’s coping mechanism is “shoving it down,” ignoring trauma to keep going, and how difficult that can be on empathy and on their children.

  “It makes it actually very hard to be sensitive to other people’s ideas and emotions.” (11:24)

• Don Jr. describes the adrenaline addiction in high-stakes political fights and the inability to return to a “normal” life after such intensity.

Running for Office? (12:57–17:40)

• Don Jr. gives a classic noncommittal answer to future political runs:

  “There may be a time, and if it’s required of me…and I can do that for my country, it’s an honor. …But I don’t know that I have the ego, actually, which is ironic…there’s like a level of hubris you actually need to be president. I think that I’m like…I don’t know.” (14:57)

• Discussion about the “bench” in the GOP and the evolution of America First/MAGA as the party’s core identity.

On Trump Family Dynamics

• Stories about Donald Trump Sr.’s legendary energy and work ethic:

  “I’ve rarely seen him sleep. …even this last election…I saw him go two all-nighters in a row.” (24:53)

• The “scariest Donald Trump is a bored Donald Trump.” (18:37)
• The party’s expectation that Trump will keep influencing the GOP for years to come.

Lawfare & Political Retribution (19:41–24:40)

• Megyn and Don Jr. discuss lawfare, justified prosecution, and “accountability” versus revenge.
• Don Jr.’s take on Republican weakness in D.C. and the need to “fight the same way the Democrats do.”

2. Platforming, Morality, and Conservative Schisms: Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk

Interviewing Nick Fuentes — Media Ethics & Controversy (27:23–47:31)

• Ben Shapiro defends his controversial interview with Nick Fuentes, stating:

  “I’ve interviewed everybody—most of them bad people, to be honest…if you can, like, smell someone and talk to them, it’s hard not to see the human in the person, even if he’s a cannibal.” (29:35)

• Ben distinguishes between criticizing governments (including Israel) and crossing into unchristian, collective hatred:

  “It is totally illegitimate and…unchristian to attack people for their DNA. …We do not punish the innocent. Period.” (31:20) “Collective punishment is the enemy of Western civilization. Period.” (35:21)

• Tucker’s philosophy: Interviewing “bad people” to understand—not endorse—them. Rebuts criticism for “platforming.”
• The panel highlights problems with both left-wing and right-wing identity politics and decries the erosion of Western values around individual responsibility.

Schism Between Tucker Carlson & Charlie Kirk (and Ben Shapiro) (49:21–62:27)

• Charlie Kirk accuses Tucker Carlson of “glossing” or legitimizing Fuentes instead of challenging him, which Kirk sees as damaging for the conservative movement:

  “He is a Hitler-loving troll…And Tucker…decided…he was going to treat Fuentes with kid gloves….to essentially normalize Fuentes, act as a sort of gateway drug…as an ideological launderer of bad ideas.” (49:21)

• Kirk describes the breakdown in friendship and alliance with Tucker as a result of the Fuentes interview, not personal attacks, but about defending the “moral boundaries” of conservatism.
• Kirk also takes aim at Candace Owens and others, stressing the need to speak out against both the right and the left when lines are crossed.
• Megyn contextualizes the feud as a demonstration of differing approaches to dissent and public debate in the conservative space.

The Israel Debate & the Role of American Foreign Policy

• The group debates whether US politics have become obsessed with Israel at the expense of American interests.
• Ben Shapiro and Megyn point out hypocrisy and political tribalism on both the left and right.
• The entire exchange exposes deep rifts in post-Trump conservatism around issues of loyalty, foreign alliances, and acceptable discourse.

3. Culture Wars, Cancel Culture & Woke Fatigue

Royalty, Wokeness, and Hypocrisy (67:47–100:33)

• Maureen Callahan, Piers Morgan, Megyn Kelly roast Meghan Markle, Michelle Obama, and Kim Kardashian for what they see as performative victimhood and hypocrisy:

  “She’s a bully. And I…her acting career, whatever she’s trying to do is going to fail, just like everything else she touches fails.” (71:59, Kelly) “I want to send Michelle Obama to Bitch Island. Meghan Markle, Kathy Griffin, that’s where I send them. The women of The View. …It’s always this victim card. And I think on the left, these Democratic elites have realized playing the victim card is profitable.” (92:13, Piers Morgan)

• Piers Morgan describes his public resignation over refusing to apologize to Meghan Markle and criticizes cancel culture:

  “Never bow to the mob, never grovel, never apologize, never give them an inch. …stand up for yourself and walk the f*** out.” (71:48)

• Discussion of the “woke mind virus,” “joyless” activists, and free speech crackdowns, especially in the UK.

War on Language and Gender

• The BBC controversy over using “pregnant people” instead of “pregnant women,” and the broader campaign to erase gendered language, are sharply criticized.

  “It’s about the complete disintegration of gendered language that benefits women.” (76:09, Callahan)

Trans Issues and Women’s Sports

• Erika Kirk (104:17–133:33) shares her perspective as a former college athlete and mother:

  “Women’s sports is one of those [special things]. …Those girls have worked so hard for their position, and to have it taken away from them by someone who couldn’t rank in their own sport…it’s demoralizing.” (131:19)

4. Personal Stories, Faith, and Loss: Erika Kirk Reflects on Charlie Kirk

Love, Faith, and Grieving Publicly (103:21–147:44)

• Erika Kirk shares intimate details about her relationship with the late Charlie Kirk — how they met, fell in love, and built a family.
• She describes the deep faith that defined their marriage, how they always lived with the sense of impermanence, and how faith is now her support in grief.
• Erika recounts “signs” from Charlie after his death and describes forgiving his accused killer at the public memorial:

  “Forgiveness is an action, not an emotion…I’m okay with the world not understanding me. …As Christians we’re called to be in the world, not of it.” (125:58) “Anything that I could ever wish upon him or that family would pale in comparison of the justice of God. …Our God is sovereign, but he’s also very just.” (147:44)

• She urges young couples to prioritize family and warns not to delay having children due to career, based on personal experience.

Charlie’s Posthumous Book, Sabbath, and the Lessons of Rest (136:27–143:11)

• Erika presents Charlie’s forthcoming book, “Stop in the Name of God,” focused on the healing power of the Sabbath and intentional rest.
• Reads a journal entry by Charlie on gratitude, discipline, and “the battle against the mind is Satan’s playground.”
• Erika expresses that righteous living and radical forgiveness are the family’s path forward.

Highlighted Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Donald Trump Jr.:

  “If there’s one thing we had no shortage of, it was guys that didn’t know what the hell they were doing. We didn’t need someone else who also didn’t know what the hell they were doing. But these guys were persuasive. And I sat down and in five minutes, I was like, oh. Oh.” (04:53)

• Ben Shapiro on Western civilization:

  “We do not punish the innocent. We only punish the guilty…That’s not racism. …It’s the answer to racism. It’s the answer to antisemitism.” (31:39–35:21)

• Charlie Kirk on ideological lines:

  “Friendship should not trump our manifest requirement to speak out when people do and say things that are both detrimental to conservatism and morally wrong.” (55:15)

• Megyn Kelly on cancel culture:

  “Never apologize, never clarify. …We know this. …It doesn’t work.” (71:17)

• Erika Kirk:

  “Control is an absolute illusion. The Lord knows the number of hairs on our head, and he knows the number of our days.” (117:40)

• Piers Morgan on woke elites:

  “It’s always the people who say they came from humble beginnings that forget so quickly. Like she says, she grew up on the south side of Chicago…but then she’s like, can you believe I had to pay for my own caviar in the White House?” (92:13)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Starting the Tour Amid Loss — Donald Trump Jr.: 03:18–12:57
• Political/Campaign Reflections (Don Jr.): 12:57–17:40
• Lawfare and Political Payback: 19:41–24:40
• Fuentes Interview — Ben Shapiro’s Rationale: 27:23–47:31
• Tucker Carlson/Charlie Kirk Schism: 49:21–62:27
• Culture Wars & Cancel Culture (Markle, Obama, etc.): 67:47–100:33
• Erika Kirk: Love, Loss & Faith: 103:21–147:44

Tone and Language

True to The Megyn Kelly Show’s ethos, the conversations are candid, irreverent, and at times combative—but deeply personal when the subject turns to loss and faith. Banter among panelists veers from biting satire to moments of real vulnerability, with the underlying through-line being a call for authenticity, conviction, and, above all, a refusal to be intimidated by prevailing trends or public pressure.

Closing Thoughts

This episode encapsulates the current crossroads of American conservative culture—torn between old alliances and new priorities, grappling with how to engage with “dangerous” ideas, and seeking to defend principles amid unprecedented external and internal challenges. It's a tapestry of personal testimonies, political feuding, and cultural commentary, delivering both laughter and gravity.

Listeners will emerge with a nuanced sense of the deep divides, personal stakes, and enduring hopes animating today’s political and cultural right.