The Megyn Kelly Show – Ep. 1264 (March 3, 2026)

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This episode delves into America's war in Iran – why it started, debates about the mission, concerns about military resources, and whether regime change is viable or even desirable. It features defense expert Erik Prince and Benghazi veteran Mark “Oz” Geist, who offer starkly contrasting views on the conflict. The show also recaps viral moments from Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton's testimony about Jeffrey Epstein, and ends with a morale-boosting interview with US Olympic hockey gold medalist Matthew Tkachuk.

1. Opening and Main Theme Introduction

[00:49-03:00]

• Megyn sets the scene: confusion among Americans about the purpose and goals of the war in Iran.
• Polls show a lack of consensus; respondents are split on U.S. goals (e.g., show power, protect allies, regime change, etc.), each answer polling no higher than 14%.
• Support is largely partisan: Republicans back Trump, Independents and Democrats are mostly against the war.
  • “The American people do not know why we’re doing this. … Support [is] falling basically along partisan lines.” – Megyn Kelly [01:30]
• Situation on the ground: Israeli strike on a key Iranian clerics' meeting; Iran responds with attacks on U.S. embassies; U.S. embassies closed in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait after drone attacks; Americans trying to flee via crowded airports; interceptors and missile defenses running low.
• President Trump disputes resource shortages; facts are contested.

2. Deep Dive: Should the U.S. Be at War in Iran? (Erik Prince)

Erik Prince, co-founder of Unplugged Technologies and former Blackwater CEO

[08:01-49:49]

Key Points:

Why Erik Prince Opposes the War

• He opposes the war despite being “no fan of the Iranians or the mullahs.”
• Disagrees that Israel’s problems are automatically America’s problems.
• Cites George Washington’s warning against “overseas entangling alliances.”
  • “How we got to that decision, there’ll be books written about that.” – Prince [08:26]
• Thinks Trump was uncomfortable with the strikes—may have been “arm twisted, coerced, extorted.” Only “the typical neocon chorus” is enthusiastic.
• "12-Day War" last summer burned through 16 years of interceptor stockpiles. To defend Gulf facilities, U.S. is now pulling munitions from Pacific reserves, potentially risking the U.S. position vs. China.

On Iranian Asymmetric Warfare

• Iran excels at low-cost, high-impact attacks (e.g., $20–30K drones costing $1–3M each to shoot down).
• Iran is highly fortified; 44,000 mountains, tunneled for years.
• Air power alone won’t topple the regime; U.S. failed to seriously degrade Houthi capabilities with precision weaponry; Iran is even better prepared.
• “Iran has not been conquered since Alexander the Great… I would encourage a punitive raid — deliver the lesson and leave.” – Prince [13:13]

Warning Against Regime Change via Ground Troops

• Reminds audience that Iraq was smaller and less fortified; pacification cost trillions and thousands of lives.
  • “A 10x worse decision than Iraq.” – Prince [14:17]
• The Iranian regime—especially Revolutionary Guard Corps—is deeply entrenched; their power is dispersed to make decapitation strikes ineffective.

The U.S.-Israel Dynamic

• Blames Israeli PM Netanyahu for pushing U.S. into war.
• Trump could (and should) have simply said no.
  • “No is a complete answer, and ‘f— no’ is an even more complete answer.” – Prince [21:13]

On U.S. Stockpiles and Munitions

• Trump claims the stockpiles are high; independent reports (e.g., Responsible Statecraft) say actual stockpiles are depleted after supplying Ukraine/Israel and fighting the Houthis.
• Overreliance on costly munitions: “The cupboard is bare.”

Strategic Priorities

• U.S. should prioritize Asia-Pacific and Taiwan over Middle East oil, which is less essential post-fracking.
• Further depletion of stocks would leave U.S. vulnerable to global adversaries.

Alternative to Direct U.S. Intervention

• Advocates for supporting Iranian opposition via covert action, not direct troops.
• Supports empowering Kurds or anti-regime groups, but says CIA hasn’t properly prepped local resistance.
• “Give the Iranian people means to defend themselves. That’s what covert action is supposed to be.” – Prince [49:07]
• “Pray…do not send ground troops into Iran. The geography itself speaks to defense." – Prince [28:48]

Notable Quotes:

• “If people are so hell-bent to do it, fine, let them volunteer. … But it does not have to be our active-duty forces, period.” – Prince [32:43]
• “It is a math problem when you have an enemy like Iran that can field weapons that are $20-$30,000 … and we have to shoot it down with $1-12M missiles.” – Prince [41:48]

3. The Pro-War Argument: Mark “Oz” Geist Responds

Mark Geist, retired Marine, Benghazi survivor, and founder of Shadow Warriors Project

[54:01-74:05]

Key Points:

Justifying the War

• Iran has been attacking U.S. and allies since 1983 via proxies (Hezbollah, Houthis).
• Argues mullahs cannot be allowed nuclear weapons or dirty bombs, regardless of current proximity to ICBMs.
• Cites threat of non-ICBM nuclear devices, possible smuggling into the U.S. by sleeper cells, and Iran’s record of proxy attacks.
• “There’s gotta be a time when we decide … the ultimate way of preventing it or deterring is getting rid of it.” – Geist [54:40]

Regime Change — Is It Achievable?

• Acknowledges U.S. is historically poor at fostering regime change.
• Believes only Iranians themselves can overthrow the mullahs, but U.S. can “give them permission” by decapitating the regime.
• “What has to happen is it has to come from the people within Iran. … What we have to look at is how do we protect America, our soldiers, our allies...” – Geist [56:47]

Concerns Over Intelligence and Justification

• Megyn and Geist discuss whether intelligence about an imminent nuclear threat was real or political.
• Geist: “Do you think that we really did [obliterate their nuclear capacity]? No. And how hard is it to rebuild a small nuclear device?” [60:36]
• Geist brings up the threat of dirty bombs and past open U.S. borders (under Biden) for possible sleeper cell infiltration.

Opposing Ground Troops

• Geist is unambiguously against U.S. ground troops in Iran.
  • “If it’s involving anything where we put boots on the ground, then I’m not for that. … It’s up to the Iranian people.” – Geist [68:49]

On Factionalism, the Kurds, and the Quagmire Risk

• Warns of the risks due to Iran’s complex ethnic makeup—Kurds may not all be aligned.
• Megyn expresses frustration: “I just, I have so little bandwidth for them.” Geist: “We have a lot we need to focus on and fix… but when an opportunity is opened, we can’t just turn away…” [72:35]

Notable Quotes:

• “Somebody has to face up to that bully and punch them in the nose. And we have done that.” – Geist [68:51]
• “History of Iran since 1979...they have done nothing but try to kill Americans.” – Geist [64:08]

4. Viral: Bill & Hillary Clinton’s Wild Epstein Testimony

[76:25-86:49]

Bill Clinton Deposition Highlights

• Pressed about Epstein's comments that Clinton "likes them young."
  • “That's not true... that I have any interest in underage ...” – Bill Clinton [76:25]
• Uncomfortable when asked about photo of him in a hot tub with a woman: “I don't think there's anybody in the hot tub...I don't know who that is.” [78:34]
• Denies ever lying under oath (“No, no”), despite impeachment for just that. [85:24]
• On Trump and Epstein: “He never said anything to me to make me think he was involved in anything improper with regard to Epstein either.” [85:58]
• On Epstein’s death: “I've accepted [the medical finding] in my own mind. I don't know what happened.” [81:04]

Hillary Clinton

• Got upset when Rep. Lauren Boebert broke deposition protocol with a photo leak; Megyn sides with Clinton on process grounds. [86:49]
• Sparred with Rep. Nancy Mace about whether she sought money from Epstein; ultimately, Hillary had little to reveal.

Tone

• Megyn is irreverent and scathing, especially about Bill's denials: “He was impeached for doing exactly that… pretty sure it wasn’t true.” [85:30]

5. Key Political & Legal Updates

[93:05+]

• Kristi Noem grilled by Sen. John Kennedy over $220 million in self-promoting DHS TV ads; she defends herself, and Megyn supports her account, noting Trump wanted her visible as a deterrent to illegal migrants.
• Nancy Guthrie case update: local/wannabe journalists still covering it, but “no new leads.”

6. Uplifting End: Interview with Matthew Tkachuk, US Men’s Olympic Hockey Gold Medalist

[104:24-137:05]

Highlights:

• Matthew credits the win to “team-first” culture, the alumni network, patriotism, and mutual sacrifice.
  • “We felt we had the team to do it... [it] was gold or bust.” – Tkachuk [107:38]
• Describes the final: Team USA led all game, Canada tied it late, but US won in OT.
• Bonding with women’s team: after-party at 2AM in the Olympic dining hall. [127:37]
• Loving the outpouring of “American patriotism,” the honor of the White House visit, and the “insane” celebratory homecoming.
  • “That was the greatest honor I’ve ever had in my life… representing the United States at the Olympics…” – Tkachuk [111:08]
• Discusses support and traditions (blue goggles, Group Chat, singing “God Bless the USA,” etc.).
• Handles controversy over a joke at the State of the Union and Megan Rapinoe’s criticism gracefully.
• Special moment honoring Johnny Gaudreau’s legacy after his death by including his children and jersey in the celebration: “…there weren’t many dry eyes in that stadium in that moment…” – Tkachuk [136:41]
• Warm, humble, and patriotic interview. Megyn effusively praises him and the team.

7. Notable Quotes & Moments

• On U.S. Involvement in Iran:
  “We don’t start wars unless there actually is an imminent threat against us, and this has been an exception to that.” – Megyn Kelly [67:27]
• On Munitions Shortages:
  “The cost of putting a warhead on a forehead in the United States is grotesquely too high.” – Erik Prince [37:16]
• Bill Clinton, on Epstein:
  “I’ve accepted it in my own mind. I don’t know what happened.” – Clinton [81:04]
• Matthew Tkachuk, on Patriotism:
  “We’re so proud to be Americans. … That was the greatest honor…” [111:08]

8. Timestamps for Major Segments

• [00:49] Show intro/news on Iran
• [08:03] Erik Prince segment
• [54:01] Mark Oz Geist segment
• [76:25] Clinton testimonies/Epstein
• [93:05] Kristi Noem segment
• [104:24] Matthew Tkachuk interview

9. Language & Tone

• Megyn is blunt, highly opinionated, sometimes profane, and challenges her guests directly.
• Both Prince and Geist are assertive but articulate—the former highly analytical and strategic, the latter more practical and “boots on the ground.”
• The hockey segment is light, patriotic, and upbeat.

10. Episode Summary

A thoroughly engaging, sometimes combative discussion of U.S. policy and confusion over the war in Iran—the lack of clear mission, the danger of mission creep, exhausted resources, and the historic challenge of nation-building. The show achieves balance by featuring two national security experts with diverging views and then pivots to cultural/political moments, before ending on a high note with an inspiring sports hero.

This summary captures the depth, drama, controversy, and personality that define this episode of The Megyn Kelly Show.