Vile "No Kings" Protesters, Hilarious Anti-Trump Boomers, and KJP Begins Book Tour, with Emily Jashinsky | Ep. 1175

Summary

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The Megyn Kelly Show, Ep. 1175 — "Vile 'No Kings' Protesters, Hilarious Anti-Trump Boomers, and KJP Begins Book Tour"

Host: Megyn Kelly | Guest: Emily Jashinsky
Date: October 20, 2025

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Overview

This episode centers on Megyn Kelly’s reaction to the recent "No Kings" anti-Trump protests. Kelly and guest Emily Jashinsky dissect disturbing and violent rhetoric from leftist demonstrators, point out double standards in media coverage, and highlight both the vitriol and the at-times comical spectacle of anti-Trump activism. The latter part of the episode is devoted to White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre’s new book and her attempt to rebrand herself as an "independent." The tone is at once outraged, sardonic, and darkly humorous.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Media Coverage & Double Standards [01:00–05:00]

• Kelly criticizes mainstream media for providing glowing accounts of the "No Kings" protests, describing them as “peaceful” and “carnival-like,” contrasting this with coverage of right-leaning rallies:
  • "Missing from any...coverage...terms like liberal, leftist, and socialist...But every right-of-center figure is labeled—right, far-right, conservative." — Megyn Kelly [03:00]
• She alleges that legacy outlets ignore the involvement of organizations like the Communist Party USA, Planned Parenthood, the ACLU, and Al Sharpton’s National Action Network.
• Kelly points out the lack of transparency regarding protest funders, suggesting unethical journalistic practices.

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2. Incitement & Celebration of Political Violence [05:46–18:33]

• Multiple recorded protester statements openly fantasize about violence or death against Trump, his family, and right-wing figures.
  • "I want to watch it just go chop and then the blood to go..." — Anonymous protester [05:52]
  • "Ivanka first…All the kids. Guillotine them all...Baron...the kids for sure." — Protesters, reacting to prompted questions [06:10]
• A birthday attendee in Maine, interviewed while accompanied by her cheerful mother, expresses hoping to see Trump’s obituary the following morning [08:00–09:51].
• A video circulates of a young boy in a gas mask beating and “stabbing” a Trump effigy at a protest, celebrated by adults [09:51–12:05]. Kelly calls this “indoctrination”— likening it to blood-sport.
• Protesters characterize officials like Stephen Miller as “Nazis” deserving to be killed [12:05].
• Celebration and mockery of Charlie Kirk’s assassination are rampant, with t-shirts like "Make Assassinations Great Again" and "Charlie Kirk had it coming," even a woman posing as the assassin [13:10-18:00].
• Kelly rebukes the moral equivalence made by some protesters, with one comparing Kirk to Hitler and expressing unambiguous satisfaction at his death.
  • "I'm glad Hitler is dead. Evil people have no place in my world." — Protester [18:58]

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3. Media Comparison: Tea Party vs. "No Kings” Protests [26:34–30:38]

• Jashinsky notes that, historically, right-wing protests faced media scrutiny over even one extreme sign, whereas leftist rallies are exempt from such standards.
  • "If one person had a booth...the legacy media [would write it as] extreme, radical, flirting with violence." — Emily Jashinsky [26:40]
• The current lack of accountability, both Jashinsky and Kelly argue, stokes anger and potential radicalization.

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4. Generational Divide: “Antiquefa” & Boomer Protesters [62:27–71:41]

• The protest scene is lampooned through the term "Antiquefa" (Boomer Antifa), with Kelly and Jashinsky mocking elderly, choreographed, interpretive dance troupes in identical yellow shirts.
• George Conway, appearing desperate to fit in, leads awkward protest chants and attempts to feed a Trump puppet money:
  • “He’s their little French bulldog...It’s like taking a French bulldog on trick or treat.” — Emily Jashinsky [70:54]
• The duo deride the protest's theatricality, seeing it as cringeworthy rather than threatening.

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5. Hypocrisy and Performative Activism [71:41–77:34]

• Kelly highlights the privilege and self-absorption of certain protesters, citing a young woman’s fashion-influencer-style video about her Rent-the-Runway outfit for the protest.
  • “I marched for you...I skipped brunch for you!” — Kelly & Jashinsky satirizing [77:25–77:34]
• The protest demographics are observed to be overwhelmingly white, even in major cities like Detroit and Chicago, eliciting further mockery from the hosts.

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6. Media Narratives on ICE, Immigration, and Misinformation [37:02–62:27]

• Violent anti-ICE rhetoric at protests is discussed; e.g., explicit calls for “turning the guns on fascist ICE agents” [38:53–39:53].
• Kelly and Jashinsky criticize the amplification of misleading reports implying ICE is targeting U.S. citizens en masse, debunking a ProPublica article’s claims after examining its details [57:41–62:27]:
  • "It’s a sleight of hand...the vast majority were arrested at ICE protests for throwing things at cops or behaving badly." — Megyn Kelly [59:26]
• John Cusack and Don Lemon are mocked for dramatic, inaccurate anti-ICE rhetoric, with Kelly lamenting media dishonesty and bias.

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7. Satire of Expat Liberal Meltdowns [77:34–82:33]

• Viral TikTok clips are played of Danica Kennedy, a liberal woman who moved to Costa Rica out of political fear, only to regret the decision due to hardship and lack of “luxury environments.”
• Jashinsky wryly observes, “She’s just taking mainstream left arguments to their logical conclusions...we have to pick on her because she represents these ideas very well.”

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8. Karine Jean-Pierre’s Book & “Independent” Branding [82:33–103:58]

• Kelly and Jashinsky lambaste White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre’s book tour, in which she proclaims independence from the Democratic Party but then admits she’d never consider voting Republican.
  • “No, I would not vote Republican.” — Karine Jean-Pierre [87:52]
• KJP’s professed outrage is directed not at party policy but at Democrats "abandoning" Joe Biden as their nominee.
• Kelly mocks Jean-Pierre’s emphasis on her identity (first Black, queer woman to serve as Press Secretary) as an attempt to remain relevant post-White House, given what the hosts judge as her profound ineffectualness and lack of credibility.
  • "She thought loyalty to Joe Biden would be her way forward. It didn’t work." — Kelly [95:31]
• The anecdote of KJP valuing platitudes from hosts of The View is ridiculed:
  • “To put the small talk in the book, like it is some type of genuine point of credibility, is really funny...it encapsulates the problems with Karine Jean-Pierre.” — Jashinsky [103:58]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Protest Rhetoric:
  • “There isn’t anybody alive...maybe if there was somebody actively committing a genocide— that’s war, that’s a different thing— but they…say, well, that’s Donald Trump, he’s genociding immigrants right now. That’s how they make the leap.” — Megyn Kelly [37:02]
• On Media Complicity:
  • “Part of the reason we don’t have a functional two-party system is that the media is wildly dysfunctional and in the tank for one of the parties...which allowed people like her to go out...and act as though everything was normal.” — Emily Jashinsky [90:30]
• On the Boomers’ Motives:
  • “They cling to the 60s and 70s…It’s their identity. They wrap themselves in it and that’s all they can do.” — Emily Jashinsky [65:43]
• On Karine Jean-Pierre’s ‘Independence’:
  • “She’s only independent so far as she wants the ability to say, ‘you should have stuck by Joe Biden.’” — Megyn Kelly [88:30]
  • “This is a book for a constituency of one family, and it’s the Biden family.” — Emily Jashinsky [99:29]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:00] Media coverage of protests: “peaceful, carnival-like” vs. reality
• [05:46] Protest clips: fantasies of violence, targeting Trump, Kirk, Miller
• [09:51] Children in protest: Kid in gas mask beats Trump effigy
• [13:00–18:00] Celebration/mockery of Charlie Kirk’s assassination
• [26:34–30:38] Double standard: Tea Party vs. “No Kings” coverage
• [62:27–71:41] “Antiquefa”: Elderly protester spectacle, interpretive dance, George Conway
• [71:41–77:34] Clueless social climbers & privilege: Rent-the-Runway protester
• [77:34–82:33] Expat liberal regrets: TikTok's Danica Kennedy
• [82:33–103:58] Karine Jean-Pierre book tour & “independent” claims dissected
• [103:58] Jashinsky: “To put the small talk in the book as a point of credibility is really funny…”

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

The episode was a blend of outrage and dark humor, emphasizing the hosts’ concerns about escalating political hatred and media irresponsibility, while also ridiculing the more outlandish, performative elements of anti-Trump activism. Kelly and Jashinsky repeatedly assert that fixing these problems can only come through decisive electoral defeat of what they see as radical elements, and they issue a broadside against the self-delusion and cynicism of media and political elites.

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For listeners seeking a concise but thorough recap: The episode tracks the disturbing rhetoric at the anti-Trump “No Kings” rallies, the complicity and hypocrisy of media coverage, parodies the Boomer protest hamming, and skewers Karine Jean-Pierre’s transparently self-serving attempt to rebrand post-Biden. The message: things are ugly, the media is to blame, and it’s up to voters—not dialogue—to bring change.

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Transcript

[Megyn Kelly]

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[Emily Jashinsky]

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[Emily Jashinsky]

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[Megyn Kelly]

Use as directed. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at noon East. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show and Happy Monday. Leftist protesters spending the weekend wishing death upon conservatives. But you wouldn't know it looking at the legacy media coverage describing the no Kings protest as peaceful, joyful, and as the Washington Post put it, a street carnival like atmosphere. Oh, it's just a fair. It's a day at the fair. Watch. Massive groups of protesters gathered in cities and towns across the country today, part of a day of so called no Kings demonstrations protesting the Trump administration. Organizers behind the no Kings movement say it's about democracy versus dictatorship. I think that the key takeaway from the week weekend is how peaceful these were. People were out on a Saturday because they love America, because they, they love this country. They love the Constitution. That your mood here for the most part is playful at times. But what we haven't seen in the vast majority of these locations is even a whiff of violence. From all the footage I can see, these were ordinary folks. They were determined to be peaceful, to carrying flags, talking about their love of the country, not, not their hatred of it. Not for nothing, but that MSNBC anchors the cities says everything you need to know about why you're not watching msnbc. Right? The elitist snob like then Scarborough. They're out there because they love America and they love the Constitution. Do they? Missing from any of that coverage or the coverage anywhere, terms like liberal, leftist and socialist. I mean, good luck. Why don't you do a Google search for yours truly or anybody who you follow on the right and see if they ever discuss a figure like Ben Shapiro or Matt Walsh or me or Tucker without saying right, far right Conservative. They don't. You must be labeled in order for them to discuss you because they need the audience to know enemy. They don't do that. When they talk about the left doing their thing. It's celebrated as just a beautiful American display. No deep dives on all the left wing organizations that took part in and in some cases funded this thing like the Communist Party usa. That's a thing. Yeah. We reported an AM update today. They said, well, you know, we don't necessarily like, don't make it about the national arm. You know, this is really more of a New York thing. You know, we know the national arms supported Fidel Castro, but like, you know, we got some goals in New York State. And by the way, they're about to have a mayor elected who's a communist. Self described socialist. Thin line, Planned Parenthood. Behind some of these gigs, the aclu, of course, Al Sharpton's National Action Network. Hey, msnbc, is that fine? Checking for a friend. It's okay for him to be funding the very protests that you're now covering with your cities and anchor as though he's a straight news anchor on a straight news platform that's going to disclose the conflicts that exist before they broadcast. Are you doing that? Not sure. Because let me tell you, even in my lane over here in podcasting, where my own boss, if I had funded a story that I were covering for you, I would absolutely tell you why. Because it shows you what my bias may be like. Of course we're not surprised, but it's still worth calling out these stories that I'm about to show you of. Some of the troubling moments were not hidden on the dark web. They were all over X this weekend. They were everywhere. And they received zero coverage on mainstream media. Why? Because the targets were conservatives, President Trump, his family, ICE agents just trying to do their job, which over 77 million Americans voted for. Stephen Miller, Charlie Kirk. We could keep going. We're going to start in New York City where a comedian who goes by no cap on God interviewed some of the protesters. And despite these protesters knowing they were on camera, they had zero concern, zero about describing the violent ways they fantasize about murdering President Trump.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Either Trump get guillotined or Luigi Mangioni guillotine.

[Megyn Kelly]

I want to watch it just go chop and then the blood to go.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Spurt and the head to fall and roll.

[Megyn Kelly]

I would have been happy if just the shooter would have just been over by one inch.

[Emily Jashinsky]

That would have been Donald Trump has got to go guillotine or Waterboard.

[Megyn Kelly]

Guillotine, please.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Shave his head first. No, I want to see the hair roll.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, really? Yeah. All right.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Who else could we throw up there? Stephen Miller, of course.

[Megyn Kelly]

Vance.

[Emily Jashinsky]

His wife. Melania. Baron. All the fucking shit. Guillotine them all. Baby Gideon. The kids for sure. Mitch McConnell, too.

[Megyn Kelly]

All the kids. All the kids.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Ivanka first.

[Megyn Kelly]

Mitch McConnell. Very nice. Mitch McConnell who just fell and had a moment of physical infirmity. Yeah, he needs to be tortured, too. They all have to be tortured. In leftist thought, at the peaceful rallies, did you hear that? The one man said he wanted to see the chop, the blood go spurt, and the head to fall and roll. That young woman wishing death upon Ivanka Trump, who is not even part of the administration anymore, yet another leftist who would love to see Republican children murdered. Yes, she is the president's child. She's an adult, but she's the president's child, which is her sin. In this woman's eyes, Ivanka is not doing politics. Hello, you fucking cretin. She's home raising her young children. I have had it with these people. I've had it. You can't negotiate with this. I'm sorry. You cannot cut deals with this. You cannot make nice with this. All you can do is defeat this. That's it. They must be defeated at the ballot box. State races, local races, national races, Congressional, Senate, Presidential. All of them. All of them. That they must lose everything. I don't care how many people they put out in their stupid little protests. They must be defeated at every end, electorally. The next example is a protester in Portland, Maine. Were they so supposed to be super sweet up there, like Maine? Earthy, crunchy, you know, like they're all about the weather. Who told the conservative news outlet, the Main Wire, that if she could have one wish, just one wish on her birthday. Well, why don't you listen here?

[Emily Jashinsky]

So this is your birthday. So you came out on your birthday. You thought it was important. Tell me why. Absolutely. Because I have two little boys who deserve a bright future of freedom and democracy. And this is a nightmare that I'm living in. What do you hope happens? You know, you wake up tomorrow morning. I hope that I see the obituary that we're all waiting for tomorrow. That's what I hope for. You were wishing that President Trump is dead?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Absolutely.

[Megyn Kelly]

Absolutely.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely.

[Megyn Kelly]

I. I thought you were going to say you're wishing for a little needle of OIC underneath your pillow awaiting you. That should be your wish, madam. Let me help you out. Or that I would just wake up 40 pounds smaller or 100 in your case. The reporter who interviewed that woman said at first he thought he misheard her. You could hear him in disbelief. He was giving her the benefit of the doubt. But no, that was a message that she was totally fine with showing the world. Can we just watch it one more time? Because what's so galling about this, and I should tell you before we play it, that was her mother with her. Her mom. Zero shame. And just listen to how cheery she is with her murderous message. Like, it's truly like I. What I wish for are unicorns and rainbows. What I wish for is world peace. Listen. Listen to that again.

[Emily Jashinsky]

So this is your birthday. So you came out on your birthday. You thought it was important. Tell me why. Absolutely. Because I have two little boys who deserve bright future of freedom and democracy. And this is a nightmare that I'm living in. Stay present. What do you hope happens? You know, you wake up tomorrow morning. I hope that I see the obituary that we're all waiting for tomorrow. That's what I hope for. Yeah. Wishing that President Trump is dead.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Absolutely.

[Megyn Kelly]

Absolutely.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely.

[Megyn Kelly]

Four absolutelys. The next video, it's almost hard to watch. This is so vile. It shows a little boy, maybe 8 or 9 years old, beating an effigy of President Trump. The little boy is wearing a full face gas mask. This is unbelievable. The person holding up the effigies wearing a shirt that appears to read ice. This video was taken by Mic Drop News. It looks like he's stabbing him here, like shoving a knife into a fake President Trump. And it was posted to TikTok. But we found another angle of it taken by a different person. This is taken in Broadview, Illinois, likely near the ICE facility that has been the site of nonstop protests outside of Chicago. If you look closely, the little boy later gets a high five from an older man when he finishes. Good job. Beating and then stabbing the President of the United States. Great job. This is how they are indoctrinating their youth. Remember the little girls we showed you a couple weeks ago who were so excited when they were like someone died and they were like President Trump. Elon Musk. They were thrilled. They couldn't wait to hear bad news about the sitting President of the United. This is how people are raising their children. This is so messed up. Like I, I've, I've had young children. I've had, I still have young children for the past 15 years. And over that time we have had Democrat and Republican presidents and I Would never dream of calling up that kind of hate in my own child's heart. That is a sickness. There's something wrong with these people. It's like, it's like a chicken fight, you know, where like, they're all in a circle and they throw the one in and, like, tell it to fight, fight, fight. And like, they revel in the, in the awfulness that's happening right before their eyes. This next protester is in Seattle saying Nazis should be killed. And since this man sees Stephen Miller, President Trump's Deputy Chief of staff for policy, as a Nazi, well, you do the math. Who are you gonna kill?

[Emily Jashinsky]

Nazis.

[Megyn Kelly]

Who. Who do you find as a Nazi? What do you mean?

[Emily Jashinsky]

It's pretty. In this, in this context, who's a Nazi?

[Megyn Kelly]

Stephen Miller's a Nazi.

[Emily Jashinsky]

So you're gonna kill Stephen Miller? If I had a chance, yeah, I would. I don't know if that's something I'd say on.

[Megyn Kelly]

That guy should get a visit from the Secret Service because Stephen Miller is a top presidential aide and he and his wife have been dealing with nonstop death threats, nonstop violence outside their home, and escalating threats to their family. They too have three young children. This is such utter bullshit. The Secret Service should go visit that man. I think it's a man, to be honest, he's ambiguous, but probably not by design. In his case, that video was taken by Brandy Cruz from the Undivided podcast. Several protesters. This is so gross. Mocking the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Okay, his, his wife is still in non stop tears. He has two babies, only one of whom can even speak yet they're so young. And all she does is ask where Daddy is. That's all she wants to know. Where's Daddy? Where's Daddy? And Erica can't quite explain it to her in a way that she understands. How do you make a three year old understand a political assassination or even death? It's very hard. And she, she doesn't get it. And what she's going to learn someday is that as she was coming to terms with the fact that her father had been murdered, her mother, who had been thrown into this terrible, terrible, acute period of grief, her little brother, who's going to be raised never having had a catch with his dad, that that event was being celebrated all over national television for months. Here's a woman who can be seen holding. It looks like a Mexican flag. Sometimes the Mexican flag and the Palestinian one look similar, but I think it's a Mexican flag. While gesturing to, shooting herself in the neck and appearing to mouth the word bang. This woman is a pig. She's a fucking vile pig. She's a disgusting excuse for a human being. It is, it's gleeful what she's doing. She is enjoying mocking a 31 year old American father, having his life taken from him for just speaking, for just answering a question. The person record. Here's a screen grab for the people watching on YouTube and you should go watch it on YouTube if you're just listening to my audio audience 13 minutes after the hour. And look at this vile person. She's got like the hand in the fake gun pointing it up against her neck and she's enjoying her play acting where she, she, she veers off to the other side from the fake bullet that gets shot into her neck. The person recording the video was a counter protester who reportedly had a Charlie Kirk flag on his truck. So she was mocking the Charlie Kirk fan for what he just went through. There is reporting that this woman is an elementary school teacher in Chicago, but that has not been verified. So we will not be repeating the name and the school that is circulating for her online. Whoever you are, madam, go fuck yourself. This is a protester in New York City. This woman made a homemade sign that reads which one heals faster? Trump's ear or Erica Kirk's heart? They can't stand the fact that Erica Kirk is a strong woman who refuses to be cowed into hiding. And they don't give a damn about any suffering she's going through. They could not care less than they want her to suffer. I mean, that's really what we're seeing. They want Charlie's baby boy to grow up without a dad. They don't give a shit about him or his baby girl either. They do not care. They want more Charlie Kirks. They want Stephen Miller to be a Charlie Kirk. They want Katie Miller, the wife, to be the new Erica Kirk. They want same for Donald Trump and Melania Trump, J.D. vance and Usha Vance. Any of us. Any of us, they, they would celebrate the assassination. They would be unapologetic about it. And these same disgusting, vile cretins want us to run around condemning the young Republicans for a racist text chain. Private. I don't give a. About their stupid chain. I've never heard of these people and they are a bunch of morons, which I said at the time. But I'm done. I will not say another fucking word about those young Republicans. You know why? Because of that. That. Where's that coverage? All over MSNBC. Where's Mr. Cities to Tell us about the vile threats on Stephen Miller and Donald Trump and the celebration of Charlie's assassination. It wasn't a one off. This man here appeared to come dressed as Charlie's assassin. He's wearing the same shirt as the suspect, a similar hat and sunglasses. You're gonna tell me that's accidental bullshit? This is not some misguided young fool. He looks to be in his 60s. Look at him. He's clearly going exactly as Tyler Robinson. And you and I both know we're gonna see those Halloween costumes of both the shooter and. And of Charlie suffering. I mean, my stomach turns just thinking about it, but that's how vile these people are. If they'll do it at a protest on camera where they know TV cameras are going to be there and photogs who are going to put their pictures. Well, not in the Washington Post, not in the New York Times, but possibly on, you know, the Daily Caller or the Federalist. They'll do. They'll do it. They'll do it in a. On a night like Halloween. They think it's funny. And their leftist pals probably will be amused. They probably will get pats on the back for doing it. And in probably one of the most vile examples of hate, an older woman who by all accounts looks sort of normal. I mean, you can tell she's a lefty, but she looks relatively normal, becomes enraged just hearing Charlie Kirk's name mentioned. We need to get ourselves together and.

[Emily Jashinsky]

And we might even need to be a little bit meaner because the Republicans don't being mean. And by mean, what do you mean?

[Megyn Kelly]

Do you mean protesting?

[Emily Jashinsky]

Do you mean maybe we have to, I don't know, stop being so nice? Because you seem like a pretty nice lady. I'm a pretty nice lady, but I.

[Megyn Kelly]

Can be pretty mean too. Okay?

[Emily Jashinsky]

And I have to ask this because people on the other side are going.

[Megyn Kelly]

To say that they feel like the Democrat Party has been mean recently with.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Charlie Kirk being assassinated. They is a piece of garbage. Of course we were mean. I am so tired of people saying, oh, but you know, it's a terrible thing. No, Hitler is dead. I'm glad Hitler's dead. Evil people have no place in. In my world.

[Megyn Kelly]

He was a hateful human being.

[Emily Jashinsky]

It was disgusting the things that he said and did. I have. I have, you know, I don't have time for that.

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm sorry.

[Emily Jashinsky]

I have to point my energy in other directions.

[Megyn Kelly]

Okay, so she's happy Charlie's dead, she's happy Hitler's dead, and Charlie's Just like Hitler. So she's happy they're both dead. He was an evil piece of garbage. Garbage and disgusting and hateful. But she's really got a mull whether she needs to be meaner. Maybe we, the Democrats, should be meaner. Oh, I'm glad he's dead. Thrilled he's dead. Yeah. F Charlie Kirk and his grieving family. I'm thinking about getting meaner. I think the problem is my side's not mean enough. How. How do you deal with people like that? Legit question. Legit. Like, I actually would love to have your feedback. You heard mine. You. You don't. Right? You. You just have to beat them electorally. But we did that. You know, somebody was joking. Like, yeah, we. We had our own no Kings rally back in November and it was an entire country awash in red Republican voters. So, like, we're good, but they're still out there and they're actually killing us now. So it's, you know, how do you deal with them? Because winning at the ballot box is not the solution. It's not the be all, end all solution. That's my point. It's a solution and it's a must. But, like, then what? Because you've got. This isn't just a differing pov. This is like these people have no care for human life. I mean, we kind of knew that when we saw tens of millions of abortion every year. But like, that at least is a political issue that we've been debating since time immemorial. This is different. This is. I'm really, totally fine if you and your children get assassinated based on your politics. Like, this woman has zero self awareness of how hateful she already is. It's not a terrible thing that a young father was shot in the neck in a video now seen around the world. You. You weren't. You didn't recoil when you saw that video, madam. You thought that was okay. You just. You just don't have the energy for that. You have to point your energies in different directions. Okay. Whoever that woman is, I pray for her soul. I really do. She's lost. She's really lost. Here are some more images shared by Libs of TikTok. They're from a protest in Denver, Colorado. This one shows two young women wearing disgusting T shirts. One reads, politicians don't die like they used to. It shows an image of a man with a gun in his own mouth blowing his head off. And the other T shirt reads, make assassinations great again. Yeah. By the way, I call them two women unclear they could be posers. If I zoom in, they actually look like men pretending to be women, which would track. Yeah. So make assassinations great again. The graphic image shows the famous image of President Trump after the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. But his eye appears in this image to be blown out with blood spewing out of it. In the background, the American flag on fire. So peaceful, so patriotic. Joe Scarborough. They love America and the Constitution. Maybe get off blue sky for an hour. The protesters had a booth labeled Denver Communists. That makes sense, given how we hear who is funding some of these rallies. Below it, a sign that reads, charlie Kirk had it coming. Change my mind. I. I wish I had been there. I really. I really do. I. I'd show them two pictures of Charlie's babes, of his little boy and his little girl. His little boy who's learning to walk. Okay, we can talk about that. And then I'd love to show them pictures of their own family. How about their family? The two women behind the booth? They're. They're seen smiling, happily giving the peace sign. I mean, there. And, you know, it reminds me. Hold on, let me see if I can pull this up. Of a tweet that Mike Cernovich sent out over the weekend. And I was like, yep, this is it. Exactly. He nailed it. They're all smiles, you know, Change my mind. Yeah, I'd love to show you your own children and see what that feels like. Scary. You don't want to be in danger, and you definitely don't want your children to be in danger. That's. Only a sick person would even consider doing such a thing. And hold on a second. I'm looking for it. It's like, it's got my blood boiling, this whole thing. Here's what Cernovich tweeted. They get to hold their protests without a care in the world. No snipers on buildings shooting at them, no masked thugs attacking them. Every media outlet fawning over them. Irony levels fit for a king. That's it. That's exactly it. Look at them. Not a care in the world. That's exactly right. They don't have a single one. Joining me now to discuss it, Emily Jasinsky. She's host of After Party on the MK Media podcast Network. Emily will also be joining me later this week in San Antonio, Texas, at the Megyn Kelly Live Tour. That's Friday, October 24th. This Friday. Go get tickets [e-mail], we would love to meet you in person, Texas, San Antonio. You can meet EJ as well. 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G-E-V-I-T-I.com Megan In a world of one size fits all solutions, Jevoty brings clarity, personalization and scientific precision to your wellness. This is not just healthcare, it's healthcare reimagined with you in mind. Emily, great to see you. I love that Cernovich tweet because it really is, like, so easy for them to just say it's mostly peaceful because their side's not in danger. Not that I want them to be, but I would love it if our side could also not be in danger and that these are just people who love America, they love the Constitution, and it was downright playful out there. It's not. When I was watching these tweets and these videos roll across my X feed, I started to feel sick. It was like I actually started to feel sick over what I was seeing about Charlie in particular. Sadly, I'm becoming somewhat immune to what I see about Trump because it's so ubiquitous. The Charlie thing is still acute, it's still new, and the inhumanity is almost too much to bear.

[Emily Jashinsky]

I mean, while you were going through that amazing compilation of moments, I was thinking back to the Tea Party years, which you covered. Megan, we all remember if there was one sign at a happy, joyful, albeit angry Tea Party rally, but if there was one sign that said something thing bad. If there was one person who was in a T shirt who said something bad. Like the woman who, by the way, in that no cap on God video was in an SEIU T shirt. As I was watching that, I noticed she was in an SEIU T shirt. So you have that if one person had a booth at a rally. So the Denver Communist booth that you just talked about, if one person had a booth, these are many, many examples all put together. But if one of those happened at a major Tea Party rally or now at a Trump rally, that would be the narrative in the legacy media for days. That would be the, quote, first draft of history that is written about the event. That it was extreme, that it was radical, that it was flirting with violence. That would be the narrative. And this double standard is so dangerous, it pours at. First of all it's wrong, and second of all, it pours gasoline on the fire of people's cultural anger and frustration. Because to the question that you ended on is like, what are you supposed to do? What are you. How are you supposed to deal with people who say that Charlie Kirk is like Hitler, That Charlie Kirk is like Hitler? Part of that is the high stakes of the media's bad coverage. They covered him like he was a sort of obvious racist, that there wasn't really a debate about whether Charlie Kirk was a racist. It was just clear to them that Charlie Kirk was a racist. That's the stakes of the bad media coverage is that people think that they're out there celebrating the assassination of a Hitler like figure. The same thing goes for Stephen Miller. So we know, we know what would have happened if these people, if this had been a center right movement and protest, it would have been disqualified immediately and written into the history books as extreme and violent.

[Megyn Kelly]

There was one woman who showed up with a sign that had a picture of a Nazi helmet, you know, with like the swastika on it. Yeah, here it is, the MAGA hat right next to that, a Ku Klux Klan white hood next to that, and then a Confederate flag on a baseball cap. And it reads same shit, different hat. So that's her view. Maga, all right. Wingers are just the same as white hood wearing Nazis, who I guess are from the south during the Jim Crow era. And here's another one, Sat seven here as Charlie Kirk supporter Nathan Hughes gets screamed at by female protesters with a shirt that says for Charlie.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Because I, I advocate for free speech. Wear a shirt that says free speech. Wear a shirt that says promote free debate, Free press. Well, you get triggered because it has Charlie on there.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right?

[Emily Jashinsky]

Because he was a racist, because he was a misogynist. And that means that you are too, because you support him. Get out. Get out of here. He hated people. Yeah, he hated anyone that wasn't white.

[Megyn Kelly]

That wasn't male, that wasn't straight. Like, to my point, what, how do you deal with that? Emily, like how this is why the right is making these people famous, you know, trying to get their names and where they work. Because what we're finding out in an inordinate amount of the cases is the people saying that stuff are like healthcare workers or teachers. And I think many of us are like, how am I supposed to go in and get emergency care from? Let's say, I don't know that this is a nurse, but it has been in the past a nurse or a doctor who feels that way about Charlie and right wingers or anybody who supports Charlie or send my child into a classroom with a teacher who feels that way.

[Emily Jashinsky]

I mean, in the video, the man in the 4 Charlie shirt just laughed in her face and did so in a way that I would have been impossible to contain that laughter. So he did it in a way that I felt was actually a pretty appropriate response because it would be easy to scream and shout back at her, right? Yeah, in the moment. But in the long term, this is like an incredible danger. And the only thing that gives me, the only thing that gives me solace right now is thinking of how the tide has turn, has turned on dei, critical race theory, trans issues where you couldn't even talk. I mean, you couldn't say anything politically incorrect without getting fired. And by the way, oftentimes it was just true and factual. And you could say it as somebody on the left and perfectly respectfully five years ago. And the only thing that gives me solace is that it's slightly better now, slightly better now. But I don't think that's gone for good. I think we'll probably see a rise of those tensions again. So, I mean, people just need to be prepared for this type of rancor on our streets because our best bet is debate. And as you were saying, Megan, the democratic process, beating people at the polls and beating them in arguments over and over again. But with someone like that, there's only so much you can do. Persuasion is really not going to change her mind. Just you have to prevent people from turning into extremities or extreme measures and violence and hopefully, I mean, like that's what we have. I mean, we're just at a place where a lot of people just cannot be convinced.

[Megyn Kelly]

That woman with red hair screaming for the listening audience, that was the second one saying he was a racist and misogynist and you support him, so you are too. She looked to me about 20, I guess, I don't know. I'm taking a shot. That's the 20 year old version of the kid who is beating the effigy of Donald Trump and stabbing the effigy of Donald Trump, like that's, that's where it's going for him. And it's not just the parents. Let's face it. If you are not actively counter programming what your school is doing to your child, the odds are you're going to wind up with a child just like this. You know, the vast majority of schools in America are doing this kind of thing to the children. This, this boy would get celebrated for his fake stabbing of Donald Trump at a lot of these schools. He's going to get props for it. They're going to all agree with that red headed lunatic screaming at the Charlie Kirk supporter that she was right on. You know, you're complicit, quote unquote. So there's no, like, there's a whole system that believes this way. I want to also show you this. One of the things that was written on the bullet casing, one of them that was in the gun of the suspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination, Tyler Robinson, was the, the, the words Bella Chow, which is a reference to an anti fascist Italian song. And this is another piece that we heard over the weekend posted online by Sean Hendrix, SOT6. It's a fair amount of people who knew the song and of course knew the reference because it's been everywhere. Those, like, they didn't all just know this anti fascist song six months ago. Bull. We've been watching these protests. We watched a protest in June, you know, the same no Kings thing. Didn't hear that song. But now that it's been written on an assassin's bullet casing, they want to celebrate it. That's the thing, Emily. It's like generally on the show we don't cover just like the random nutcase because you could do that, right, and misrepresent anybody. You know, like we, our side of reason has its nut cases too. So I generally really genuinely try not to do that. This is everywhere that we've been dealing it now since Charlie was murdered on September 10th. I mean, here we are, what, October 20th, and it's still going there. In fact, they're leaning in, it's getting louder. Like not just I hated him or what that woman said, he was a misogynist and you must be too. But like singing the messages of his assassin wearing the costume of his assassin, you know, it is a celebration, a glorification of the murder, which is how you get more murders just like it.

[Emily Jashinsky]

And Donald Trump, by the way, was shot in the head. Not by the way. I mean, it's perfectly relevant here. Donald Trump is already shot in the head. There's, there's just no reason that any person should be out there with an effigy and having a kid stabbing the effigy without others at the protest. And I've seen this covering protests before, others at the protest pulling you back and saying, cut it out. This is not going to, this is going to disqualify all of the people that are here, patriotically and peacefully, et cetera. But it seems like this was all over the country and is not exactly nut picking. When you look at some of the polling about where people are on political violence, this is obviously reflective of some deep sickness in our body politic and particularly one that the left is under the microscope for. Rightfully so right now. That seems entirely appropriate right now. After you have what happened to Charlie. And I remember, Megan, you, you did this segment a couple of weeks ago going through the insanities in what people were saying about Charlie Kirk being racist, like all of the claims, just taking them one by one by one. And I remember on social media going back and forth with people who were making these blanket statements that like, objectively, Charlie Kirk racist, Charlie Kirk hateful, et cetera. And everything crumbles when you take it apart and you realize that he's talking about points that have been made by Thomas Sowell and Jason Riley, as you point out, over many, many years. But that lands flat with so many people now because it's impenetrable. They just have this, this worldview that is impenetrable to reason and that is so dangerous. That's why they want to shut people down as Nazis. That's why they want to shut people down as Hitler, because they're at a point beyond being persuaded. Hopefully not everyone, but it's hard to, it's hard to look at somebody like that and say, yes, now they are going to, we can, we can hit them with all of this reason and logic and say this argument looks like this, this is why you're wrong. It doesn't matter. I mean, that's just the place that we're at with a big chunk of the country and it's really, really dangerous.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's so, it's so mentally deranged. And yet it's, it's not because one third of liberals are open minded to political violence. So it's really not, they can't all be crazy. Some of them are sane and just believe this is actually a way out of Our current problems. I genuinely don't understand it. I genuinely don't. There are people who I can't stand on the other side of the aisle, certainly in the punditry class, I mean, those are the ones who are the top for me. But also in the politician class, most of the politicians I just kind of laugh and scoff at. But there are a couple who I really can't stand who have been very aggressive on the transing of children, for example. Like a couple in the. The legislature out in California. I would never cheer their death. Never, never, never ever. There isn't anybody alive. Like, maybe if there was somebody who was actively committing a genocide. Yeah, I mean, like, that's war. That's a different thing. But then, like, they. They just. They would say, well, that's Donald Trump. He's genociding immigrants right now. That's how they make the leap. And they lose, like, the connection to. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're talking about, like an actual genocide. Like something that's actually happening in Africa right now, where you've got thousands being killed in the name of politics, or in any event, we could go down that. That path. But here, speaking of the, you know, Trump's committing a genocide, they are just as vocal on the ICE situation. And we saw that that's kind of the catalyst for the no Kings rallies in some ways. And so the anti ICE rhetoric was at a fever pitch. Again, peaceful. They were happy, they were joyful. I guess they didn't catch this guy. This is Posted by Gray Stack S T A K Media in Chicago. Okay, so Gray Stack Media caught this guy in Chicago. SOT8, you gotta grab a gun.

[Emily Jashinsky]

We gotta turn around the guns on this fascist system.

[Megyn Kelly]

These ICE agents gotta get shot and wiped out. This state. The state machinery that's a full display right there has to get wiped out. Okay, now I just had a debate with the Fifth Column guys, who we love, and Matt Welsh, who was like, the ICE agents should not be wearing masks. And we had not this video, but something like it. I said, matt, that's. This is why they do have to wear masks. They literally had bounties placed on their heads for execution by these drug cartels. But you don't even have to go to the drug cartel place that appears to be an American citizen. He has an accent, but it appears to be an American citizen standing up there calling for ICE to be assassinated. And so why wouldn't. They need to protect themselves? And why wouldn't. Now the media take it down? Just A notch now that we're having bounties placed on them and open air calls for ICE agents to be assassinated.

[Emily Jashinsky]

It's dangerous for everyone that the media, and I really mean this, that the media does not cover this with the same standard that they cover stuff on the right. Because people on the right then get completely fed up and say, I don't know, I throw their hands up in the air. And it becomes fertile ground for actual radicalization. Because when you have this happening after somebody was just trying to shoot ICE agents in Dallas, apparently hits two migrants, everybody is in more danger. You are asking, you are asking for blood on the streets by not taking this seriously. And as seriously as you would if somebody on the right said that about, for example, migrants themselves. We all know. I mean, it's actually astounding, astounding to me, the amount of evidence that you've played over the course of the show, Megan, that we know if just one of these videos, if just one of these videos existed at a Trump rally or at a Tea Party rally back in 2012, this would be the narrative. And it is. It is. People are so exasperated with it that they're throwing their hands up in the air.

[Megyn Kelly]

How many hours were devoted to the comedian at the Trump rally at Madison Square Garden who made the joke about Puerto Rico? How many segments on television? And this, all this stuff that we've shown, totally ignored in favor of the joyful. They love America. They love our Constitution. There they are in the cities protesting as peaceful Americans. That's what we get instead. It's infuriating. Here's another bit on ICE from. Okay, when is like, when was the last time John Cusack actually starred in a movie? That's what I want to know. He had his stint, weirdly, inexplicably, as a rom com lead back in the 90s. Who the hell decided he was gonna be at Hollywood, heartthrob? I have no idea. He should just be grateful for it. I mean, he's not an attractive man. There's nothing good looking about him. And yet he managed to stumble into the same kind of roles as Matthew McConaughey. Hello. And instead of just being really grateful to the country for giving him this very undeserved opportunity, he's bitter, bitter, bitter. Here he is. Watch him score, right? The authoritarians divide and conquer, and they create an other, and then they pick on it, and then pick on the person and harass them, jail them. And that's all used as a distraction so they can steal as much as they can maintain power. Right. We all know history.

[Emily Jashinsky]

So.

[Megyn Kelly]

So that's what he's doing. And we have masked goons roaming the streets, hiding their faces, abducting people.

[Emily Jashinsky]

You're a storyteller. What is the story of Chicago?

[Megyn Kelly]

Go to hell. Is that the message from Chicago? Yes. Great. I'm sure a lot of people will be buying his next story. Should trademark that one asap. John.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Get.

[Megyn Kelly]

Get the trademark. Get the copyright on there asap, my friend. Masked goons roaming the streets, hiding their faces, abducting. Abducting people. They don't care if it's not true. They just. They want to incentivize violence against them. Emily. And you're right, there'll be no accountability by the media. But just like, what about. What about like media policing media? What about, you know, the leftists trying to uphold something close to their own standards? Because you're right, had that been somebody wearing a MAGA hat talking about anybody on Team Left, there'd be. It would only take one. Would take just one comment to send the Internet into full meltdown.

[Emily Jashinsky]

The thing he said in the first part of the interview that you played is that authoritarians create the other. It is so obvious that is what was happening on the left and it is what is happening with his compatriots who are out there comparing Charlie Kirk to Hitler to a degree that is genuinely wide spread. The amount of people who believe that Charlie Kirk is a hate monger and not just sort of like, we can have a debate about this and that, which I would still object to, but genuinely believe that he is on par, objectively on par with somebody who should be lumped into an actual hate bigot category because the media allowed him to be covered that way. It is astounding. That is exactly what he's talking about. That is the authoritarian othering that preceded this entire moment. That is how the cliche goes. That is how you got Trump. Because people were tired of being called bigots for wanting a border wall being categorized, lumped into that, necessarily lumped into that category of bigotry by the media, by elites who are profiting from all of it, by the way. And so it's actually very funny. That was his justification for taking to the streets. And that's what he takes issue with being in his argument, turned around on the left. That is the othering that got us to where we are right now.

[Megyn Kelly]

Look at Don Lemon and his messaging around ICE and what private citizens should do. Black people, brown people of all stripes, whether you're an Indian American or a Mexican American or whoever you are, go out in your place where you live and get a gun legally. Get a license to carry legally. Because when you have people knocking on your door and taking you away without due process as a citizen, isn't that what the Second Amendment was written for? Go back and read what the Second Amendment says, and perhaps it will knock some sense in the head, in the heads of these people who are saying, well, it's all great. I don't believe they're doing it without due process. They're asking people for papers. They're not really beating people up. These people are doing things that are illegal. Nobody is illegal. It is a misdemeanor to cross the border. Okay, I don't know where. When he developed a lisp, but now he has a lisp, I guess. And he's out there actually saying that they're tearing Americans out of their homes and what, deporting them without due process. That's a lie. That is a lie. There is not an American citizen who's not entitled to and doesn't get due process. The whole battle we're having is over people who are here illegally or in some cases, who are here on a temporary visa that can be withdrawn just as easily and quickly as it was granted because they are guests here and their invitation does not have to be never ending. So you spout off about certain things or the State Department deems you to be a potential danger, yeah, your visa is probably going to go away. But actually rounding people up is only happening to suspected illegals who. The ones who are getting shipped out immediately already have a prior order of deportation. And the ones who actually get housed and then offered a trial are ones who need some order of administrative hearing, which they get before they get deported. There's been one category of people used under the Alien Enemies act where Trump went to a more extreme measure. From on all people who were here illegally, illegally, it was all not US Citizens. That's what they want you to believe. And on top of all that, what he is having people to believe is that if you get a knock from an. From an ICE agent on your door, no matter who you are, if you're black or brown, you're going to get arrested and shipped out without due process. That's a lie. That kind of messaging is going to get an ICE officer shots and killed. And, like, they've lost all fealty to facts, Emily, when it comes to ICE in particular.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Well, this is what, this is what's driving me a little bit crazy. On this. So ProPublica left wing had a big expose last week where they say 170American citizens. I forget the exact phrasing that they use, but basically was have been detained or arrested by ice. There's not widespread evidence of American citizens, certainly not widespread evidence of American citizens being deported. And as one of the most insufferable types of people in the world, a civil libertarian, I am like Matt Walsh, upset with some of the people that I think are getting caught in the dragnet. But yes, Matt Walsh, yes, I screw.

[Megyn Kelly]

Them up all the time. They're different political philosophy philosophies, very, very different.

[Emily Jashinsky]

But where Matt and I are going to be disturbed by people getting caught up in the dragnet, that doesn't compare to the policies that Don La man supported for however many years. Which was the most anti democratic immigration surge I have ever could. You could even conceive of the administrative, the executive branch just deciding to at least minimum, this is by the New York times calculation, bring 8 million people into the country in about three years time. And then when another administration tries to do something about it, we all know that if this was the most orderly process in the world, that nobody had been caught in the dragnet. We all know that Don Lemon would be saying the exact same thing. And that is what is driving me crazy about all of this is that you can't even have a conversation about any of the stuff that Matt Walsh and I would be sort of like you're criticizing from civil libertarian perspective because it's like you just brought in what, like 10 million people in a three year period. And I don't believe you for a second that you would care that much if this was all being done in an orderly fashion.

[Megyn Kelly]

And by the way, can we let just take one minute to look at what happened to Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who got, you know, snatched up by ICE and was a gang member. The amount of attention on this one illegal who was deported. Maryland man. Maryland. No, he wasn't a Maryland man. He was living in Maryland. Who was accused of beating his wife, who was accused of being an Ms. 13. If a US citizen were ever arrested and shipped off to an El Salvadoran prison, you don't think we'd know? You don't think that there'd be the full force of the ACLU to get an American back? It's bullshit. The people who are getting shipped to El Salvador are not American citizens. The vast majority of them are Venezuelan or El Salvadoran. So in any event, this is a fear tactic that's being used by people on the left to try to get more Americans to arm up, up because I believe they want to see ICE officers shot and or simply intimidated. That's what they want. They want them to back down because to your point, they do want all these people here. They, they have no problem with what Joe Biden did because it's going to change the demographics and they hope change the electoral outcomes. All right, stand by because we're going to take a quick, quick break. But we will be right back with Emily Jashinsky. I'm excited to share a new partner of the show with you. Halloween. The number one Christian prayer and meditation app. If you have not heard of it, Hallow has more than 10,000 audio guided prayers to help you find peace and grow closer to God. Prayer is more important than ever. God. I know. I'm feeling that. Are you feeling that? In the past month, we have seen a surge in people turning to faith. More prayer, more church attendance, and a real spiritual revival happening across America. And starting today, Hallow is launching a powerful new prayer series featuring Jim Caviezel. Yes, the actor who played Jesus in the Passion of the Christ. It's a fictional exchange between two demons trying to pull Christians away from God, not through obvious evil, but through everyday distractions like pride, busyness, and the I'll pray later mindset. Hallow is not just an app. It's a space to slow down, reconnect, and fight back against the noise. With prayer, you don't have to be perfect. You just have to start. Start somewhere. Go to hallow.com Megan M E G Y N to get three months free. That's Hallow. H-A-L L O.com Megan did you know that up until the 1990s all chips and fries were cooked in beef tallow? Who knew? Like when you were scarfing down that fast food in the 80s that had been cooked in beef tallow, not in seed oils. But then big food companies made the switch to cheap, highly processed seed oils and now they make up to 20% of the average American's daily calories. This is why I'm so excited to tell you about masa chips. I love masa. It's a chip that's doing things differently. Masa chips are made with just three organic corn, sea salt, and 100% grass fed beef tallow. That's it. No seed oils, no junk. They're delicious. So, like, they're thicker, they're crunchier, they've got some good salt on there. And unlike the regular chips, you don't have to eat like 30 of them to feel sated. You can have like four masa chips and you do feel sated. You're good. They're genuinely tastier than the other chips. They don't break in your guac or salsa. Plus they really leave you feeling light, satisfied and energized. No crash, no bloat. Try them for yourself, you're gonna taste the difference. Personally, my favorite flavor of the masa, I like the white corn. I've been into that. That's been good. And the original is delicious too. My son really loves the lime and my other two kids eat all of them so check em out for yourself. You can get the variety pack and so you can try em all out. Are you ready to give Masa a try? Go to masachips.comm a s a chips.com mk and do use that code mk when you check out. You get 25% off your first order. That's masachips.com mk code mk for 25 off your first order. If you don't feel like ordering online, Masa is now available nationwide at your local Sprouts supermarket. Russian forces are closing churches and persecuting Christians. All across Russian occupied Ukraine, soldiers are shutting down places of worship. Many evangelical churches absolutely destroyed. This is good versus Evil.

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[Megyn Kelly]

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[Emily Jashinsky]

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[Megyn Kelly]

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[Emily Jashinsky]

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[Megyn Kelly]

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[Emily Jashinsky]

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[Megyn Kelly]

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[Emily Jashinsky]

I like watch that with my mouth again. This is real contempt and hate.

[Megyn Kelly]

Hatred in a marriage. Mark Halperin I'm hungry. I could use some salad. I've got it for you right here. One of the reasons I wrote this book, Rachel, is there are actually a number of reasons. Please, I would like a light vinaigrette and link.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Lauren I will do my Jasmine Crockett impression during the show, I promise.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, you ain't gotta believe me. Just go glue Google.

[Emily Jashinsky]

You'll find some of it.

[Megyn Kelly]

Sugar Land, San Antonio, Fort Worth. It's gonna be so much fun. So go get your tickets right now before they sell out. Megankelly.com I can't wait to see you. Back with me now, Emily Jasinski. She is the host of After Party with Emily Jasinski live every Monday and Wednesday night 10pm on YouTube.com@the little sign afterparty Emily Find all the ways to subscribe to the [e-mail] okay, during the break I went and actually pulled that ProPublica article because I do not trust that publication. And once again I feel validated in my instincts. It is, it is not true what they said that that more than 170 US citizens have been held by immigration agents. And by the way, it's a sleight of hand. Because if you dig in this article, what they're saying is 170 have allegedly been held by ICE, like, making it sound like they were on the way to being deported. But really, when you dig into it, you see it's the vast majority were arrested at ICE protests for throwing things at cops or behaving badly. So any American can get arrested for doing that at a no Kings rally, at a BLM rally, though they never were, and certainly at an anti ICE rally. That's the vast majority that they're objecting to. And they're like, oh, these are bullshit charges that were soon thereafter dismissed. Well, that's because we have soft on crime DAs who don't like to protest. Anybody who shows up at an ICE rally doesn't mean anything about their guilt or innocence. And then just quickly zeroing in on the people who they say are citizens being wrongly detained by ICE. They say nearly 20 children, including two with cancer. That includes four who were held for weeks without their undocumented mother and without access to the family's attorney. Okay, we covered these cases here on this show. What's happening is in those cases with the children, the children may be US Citizens, but the mothers are illegal. The fathers in most cases have split. So we're only dealing with a mom, and the mom's about to get deported. One of these moms, I remember her case, she'd been deported three times. Three times. And she continued to stay. So when they got her the fourth time, Tom Holman did a courtesy of saying, what do you want me to do with your young kids? Like, they can come with you. They can go with you back to Honduras, or we can leave them with a family member here. And in all these cases, the mom said, I'm taking them with me. But now you get ProPublica, who writes it off like we're. We're wrongfully detaining American children in ICE facilities. It's just propaganda. What I said is right, which I knew, that we are not rounding up American citizens and holding them without due process. We are rounding up Americans who misbehave at protests. And it is possible some American here or there could get wrongfully arrested by ICE suspected of being an illegal. But even the ProPublica article admits that all the Americans got released within a day when they got wrongfully tapped for whatever reason by Tom Homan or police for bad behavior at a protest so it's like. It's just. It's misleading. And Homeland Security has come out repeatedly trying to debunk this, saying it's not true, it's not true. But you get fudging numbers like this where people believe it, and then they. Then they want to kill ice. You know that Kristi Noem is pointing out that the threats on ICE agents have gone up, I think she said, 3,000%. Like, these guys, forget the bounties by the drug cartels, which you do need to take seriously every day, just for doing their job, which is law enforcement, to clean up Joe Biden's mess, have to deal with the John Cusacks of the world, calling them goons. Right? It's like. It's just so wrong. Okay, but enough of. Yeah, you comment on it, then we'll move on.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Well, no, I was just gonna say the ProPublica article is frustrating because there are a handful of cases, so there's a veteran who got caught up in Oxnard, the California Oxnard raid, that people have talked a lot about, and there are cases like that. But then I'm clicking through the links just like you did on the ProPublica story as I was reading it, and it's cases where, for example, a woman is knowingly living with somebody who is pretty clearly involved in gang activity. And then it just gets dropped into the ProPublica story with zero context, unless you click through on a hyperlink. And we're talking about a US Citizen who is, again, like, knowingly living with somebody who is not in the country legally, who is, like, pretty clearly involved with all kinds of bad stuff. And I'm supposed to have sympathy for her getting caught up in a raid when it's her house that this guy lives at. So, yes, I mean, the story is like, it's just incredibly frustrating the way that the left treats these cases, because people who then do get maybe caught up in the dragnet, which. There will be some cases like that, you know, nobody knows what to believe. Nobody knows what to believe because it's such bullshit from this reporting.

[Megyn Kelly]

I do. I know what to believe. I know exactly what to believe.

[Emily Jashinsky]

But, like, the average person who's like, just, like, trying to figure out what's going on and does it follow politics for a living? They're like, what the. Well, what's. What's actually happening?

[Megyn Kelly]

No, you're right. And. And not only that, then they made the colossally foolish decision of trusting MSNBC or CNN or abc, NBC or cbs. Like, honestly, like, that's a Colossally catastrophic decision because then you have total mind meld that you really. You are clueless. You don't know you're clueless. You. You have only garbage in, garbage out. And the next thing you know, you're supporting assassinations of totally innocent good men. Like it's, it's a very dark cycle. I mean, that's why I'm, I love the fact that the mainstream media is, is dying and it's, it's over. You know, it's like I've said it before, but it's like the deer that gets hit by the car and it kind of runs off into the side, you know, planes. And it's got those 10 seconds of life or that, but it's, it's, it's dead. And it's going to be dead within a minute as soon as it hits the woods. It's sad. I. I may or may not have been the person who hit the deer at one point in my life. Allegedly. Um, it was. There's nothing I could do. He ran right in front of my car. I was lucky to be alive after the whole thing. In any event, that, that's why I'm happy to see their demise because they're so dishonest and they are misleading people. Okay, but we spent so much time on the darkness. We have to take a moment to celebrate the foolishness because the, the Democrat party that we saw at these no Kings protests was like equally really dangerous and something to be afraid of and an absolute laughingstock joke of a group. Right. So it's like I don't know how to feel. I saw one meme that said it's antifa and antique fa. Like antiques. Like, like that's about right. So we now move on to the antiquefa portion of our coverage of the no Kings of rally. And probably the best place to start is by showing. Well, let's see. No, let's. Yeah, here's the meme Antifa and Antikva showing Grandma Grand Tifa is amazing. Let's show the dancers. Do we have that one? I think I was told it was 16 of the dancing protesters. Cuz you and I love to discuss dancing and singing protesters together. So we called this up just for you.

[Emily Jashinsky]

You.

[Megyn Kelly]

Everyone's over 60 wearing some very ugly yellow shirts. They've got the same boobs for every dance. Two pumps right, two pumps left. Now to the middle.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Now to the right.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, they're switching it to the window washer. The window washer. And then there's a competing group of protesters moving behind them. Okay, that's it. Okay. I, I like this group. They don't scare me. I didn't see any let's kill Donald Trump signs or assassinate Charlie Kirk, though. Something tells me they probably believe it. But the, you know, the dancing crew is back, just as we saw with the protest choir in Maryland that day. And you tell me interpretive dance has long been a way of expressing one's feelings. Emily Jasinski.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Well, I actually think this should be banned for a totally different reason, is that it is so sexually tantalizing. Right. That you can't have this display of raw sexuality in public without endangering people, because this is just incredible. They have this animal magnetism about them. It's eerily similar to the Pete Buttigieg campaign dance to High Hopes. I don't know if you remember this from like 2019, where they're doing the My mouth. It's so bad. But they love doing it. It's so, I mean, they can't, they can't quit it because I think it goes back to. It was Hans Feeney, the columnist over at the Federalist, who wrote about, I think he coined the term Selma envy. And that's what you see at so many of these protests is often just boomers clinging to that era that many of them didn't get to partake in. But they remember it as this, like, height of American patriotism. And, and they cling to it because they see it as their identity. I mean, they're like lost and adrift for meaning. So they cling to the, the 60s and the 70s as this, this identity for themselves. They wrap themselves in it and that's all they can do.

[Megyn Kelly]

There was a lot of that. Here's a little bit more. George Conway really, really tried to get something going on on Antifa. Trying to get a chant going. See, here's a good one. Sat 12, it didn't go well.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Hey, hey, Donald J. How many kids did you start today? Hey, hey, Donald J. How many kids did you start today?

[Megyn Kelly]

Hey, hey.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Okay, that's like.

[Megyn Kelly]

How many kids. No one could do it. No one knows what the hell.

[Emily Jashinsky]

You said that was George Conway. Yes.

[Megyn Kelly]

He's clearly been hitting the Ozempic.

[Emily Jashinsky]

He looks different. He looks different.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. I think we all know why.

[Emily Jashinsky]

That's. I mean, that was not a catchy. This is a great, this is a great example of somebody on the right who's now trying to be a part of, like, left wing activism and has no idea how to do it. And so he's just Doing like this impression of what he thinks like liberal activism is and he's doing it. Did he have like a bandana wrapped around like that was George. Yes.

[Megyn Kelly]

I think the left might call it a kerchief. He was wearing a kerchief. All right. He tried another one. Let's watch George in SOT 13. We will shout we don't care if.

[Emily Jashinsky]

He never gets out we say no, no, no to his king clan. We won't be subject for him for it's 1, 2, 3 times in the he's for the would be kid. Everybody one more time come out of the White House. Lost him up in a jail. Get him his handcuffs and we will shout we don't care if he ever gets out.

[Megyn Kelly]

We say no. Okay, it's making more sense now, right? He. He needs a little love. He needs somebody to fill him up. He doesn't have Kellyanne, he doesn't have the food. And he needs somebody to fill him up a little now on the inside and is out there to like feel loved. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's fine. I don't feel threatened and I don't think George Conway's on board the kill the Republicans plan. This to me is kind of good old fashioned protest fun. It's sad that he's not really being loved and very few people are singing along with him and you could see the eyes drifting and nobody understands what he's doing with that song. But at least I think his motivations are pure. Like pure tds.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Yes, I, I agree with that. Although I also think part of his motivations, to your point, it's this. I, he, he seems to want to be cool. And it reminds me of when Joe Scarborough like released the rock album and his guitar playing was so mediocre that it just hurt your heart to be a part of consuming it in any way whatsoever. And he was like playing gigs in midtown or maybe he even ventured all the way to Brooklyn. Like, it's hard to watch because you can tell it's like the Corvette midlife crisis, but they're doing it with politics and it' so painful. So I think maybe pure motivations, but they have to be to some extent rooted in also thinking that that's cool and that. I mean, I can't wrap my head around that. I can't imagine being in middle age and thinking I'm hip, I've got my neon kerchief and I'm singing Take me out to the ball game Trump rendition off an iPhone. Georgetown. Ostensibly, yes.

[Megyn Kelly]

I couldn't be bothered to memorize my little rhyme. I had to read it both times. No one followed me. But I feel loved. It's the Cl closest he's felt to loved. Here he is. One more. George Conway. The move on from him. No, sorry, I gotta do it. Debbie Murphy makes me do it. Trying to feed a trump puppet money. Here it is. Money. Yeah, he'll need more of that.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Here, Here you go.

[Megyn Kelly]

There you go.

[Emily Jashinsky]

There you go.

[Megyn Kelly]

Come on, Donald. Take it. Take it.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Take it, Donald. Take it. Take it. Donald, it's for you.

[Megyn Kelly]

Emily's literally cringing. I think I'm seeing a physical cringe.

[Emily Jashinsky]

It is, it is. Who lets this happen? Doesn't he have people who love him? It's like he's being trotted out by the left like the, the little kerchief, it reminds me is like he's. He's their little French bulldog, right? Like he's. They paid $2,000 for him and they're like trotting him out to all of the different, different stops. He's like doing trick or treat. It's like taking a French bulldog on trick or treat. The one thing I thought might be better. Far less potable. That's true. The one thing I might. I thought might be better about the second term of Trump is that we wouldn't get this flavor of cringe boomer resistance, anti Trumpism with the like, just awful blow up dolls and the like orange Cheeto king lines that they love to use. But they're still doing the same thing. That's what I saw all over this weekend. They keep.

[Megyn Kelly]

I saw one of these groups was texting its followers. Oh, yeah, here we go to your point. Here's a bunch of blow up animals. A unicorn, a chipmunk dancing. Because nothing says no kings like a dancing chipmunk and a unicorn. Everyone gets it, but one of the mailers that went out told them, dress up like Trump. That means your orange makeup. I love how, like, they try to get solidarity going in Canada. And halfway into it they realized, oh, shit, we really can't say no kings. We have to change it, right? It was like, we do have a king. Technically we're controlled by England and that's a king. And this is a problem for us, but maybe we should change it to no tyrants. And they changed the no crowns to no clowns up there. Canada. We can't help those who won't help themselves. Here's another one. Okay, let's keep going. There's this young man who got up on Saturday went out there with the signs like solidarity with the other protesters and for very good reason. Listen to stop 15. Trump's a bitch. Yeah.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Why is that?

[Megyn Kelly]

I don't know. He's just. We don't like him. That's the word around here.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Any. Any particular reason why you don't like him?

[Megyn Kelly]

No clue at all. I'm just going with everybody else saying.

[Emily Jashinsky]

I like him.

[Megyn Kelly]

Thank you.

[Emily Jashinsky]

He's honest.

[Megyn Kelly]

Thank you. Right. Thank you for your honesty. Like, no clue at all.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Just.

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm just out here. There's another one. This. Oh, yeah, this is the. The sweet tolerant left. It's just a video v3 as the no Kings protesters in Portland walk right past and over the homeless.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Oh, good, good. It's almost like. Almost like aristocracy. It's almost as though they're aristocrats stepping over.

[Megyn Kelly]

There's somebody getting their blow up animal through.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Past, past the homeless. They're going to get poked with a needle. The blow. I don't know how they stay inflated with all the needles in Portland.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, my God. They're actually like stepping over homeless people to go to the protest site while they're in animal costumes. You cannot make it up. Okay, let's keep going. You've got. Let's see. These are kind of fun. Should we say video 5 and video 6? My only cue on these. I send these to my team or they send them to me and we say, yeah, let's queue them up. But then I don't. Their only thing on my sheet is old white people.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Oh, it could be anything.

[Megyn Kelly]

This is how the protest looked. Yeah, it's a bunch of old white people. I saw this remarked on all over X yesterday, Emily. Like in places like Chicago or Detroit. Detroit is like 80% black. In the. The no Kings protest there. All white. It was all white people. Like, none of the black people showed up here too. Yeah, you can see this is Marion, North Carolina, and Karen Carrollton, Texas. So, yeah, they just stood there holding their signs. No Kings in the usa. Due process. All no Kings, no fear. Okay. I can get on board with this. I don't agree that we have Kings and all that bullshit, but, like, this is a normal protest. This is not. Cut Trump's head off with a guillotine, stab him, kill Stephen Miller, kill ICE agents and celebrate Charlie's murder like that. That's a different story, people. Okay, now all of this leads me to. Well, first, let me do one more. Doug Emhoff, who showed up at one of these no Kings. He showed up at one of these no Kings protests. Have you seen this? And he's holding a sign that reads, if Kamala had won, we'd be at brunch. No Kings. I mean, on point, Emily. I don't think he's telegraphing what he thinks he's telegraphing there, there.

[Emily Jashinsky]

No, he sure isn't. And they have zero self awareness again. After 10 years of Donald Trump's political career, they continue to have the worst possible response to Donald Trump. Like, if you were say that you were like some evil left wing strategist, you would never come up with anything that looked like this to defeat Donald Trump because this is so ineffective. And it's why they ended up losing the culture, which was unthinkable for the right 10 years ago, that they would have cultural momentum and like, the cool factor would wild be on their side. It's because of this. And they keep doing it. They keep doing it. They just lost again and they keep doing it.

[Megyn Kelly]

There it is. A group of elitist snobs. Just like I could be at brunch. Wow. I don't have to be dealing with these plebs out here. Here's this gal. She went and actually rented her outfit from rent the Runway for the no Kings protest because she wanted to look her best SOT19 in New York City.

[Emily Jashinsky]

You guys, I'm headed to the no kings protest in New York City. I'm so, so excited. This is my outfit. It's all rent the Runway. Rent the Runway.

[Megyn Kelly]

Gani, Rent the Runway.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Favorite daughter. My boots are to cova and then my sign. You can't read it. Kate never made a country gray on one side. But wait, I heart immigrant New York. I'm so freaking excited. It's going to be the best day. It's perfect weather. It's always the best energy. So happy Saturday.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, my God, she looks. Emily, I'm gonna let you handle this one.

[Emily Jashinsky]

No, I genuinely can't believe that's real and not satire because I think you could script something like that, put it out as like, a conservative comedian. Like, Tim Dillon could put out a video like that and it would be satire. But she actually seems to have done that organically and she's out. Like, I guess she does need immigrant New York because someone has to deliver her Rent the Runway for impossibly low wages. So it makes sense that she's honest about it and she's out there. I don't know that she realizes fully what immigrant New York does for her, but obviously she needs it because someone has to be delivering all of those packages three times a week.

[Megyn Kelly]

I can see her saying to the next delivery guy, like, I marched for you, Kisses.

[Emily Jashinsky]

I skipped brunch for you.

[Megyn Kelly]

So the clueless, youngish, liberal woman, and honestly, older woman, too, they're ruining America. I mean, they really are. Some of our friends on, like, the more based right in the podcasting world, the guys do amazing bits on this, and I have to say, they're very effective. Like Jesse Kelly. Freaking love his comment, his commentary on what liberal women are doing to America. He's not wrong. And there's one who was in the news recently. I think her name is Danica Kennedy. And she was one of those who was so fed up with Donald Trump being reelected that she did the thing. She did what Ellen DeGeneres did, what Rosie O' Donnell did, and she moved out of the country. She didn't go to the UK or Ireland, respectively. She went to Costa Rica. Now, Costa Rica's supposed to be, like, all the rage. It's beautiful. It's a blue zone, like where you live forever. And she got the hell out of the toxic United States of America and moved down to Costa Rica. And it doesn't. It doesn't seem like it's going very well. Watch if you're an American who is.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Considering leaving the country to move somewhere.

[Megyn Kelly]

Else, make sure that the location you choose isn't based off of fear and lack mentality.

[Emily Jashinsky]

I regret moving to Costa Rica. It's a beautiful country. I love the nature and wildlife. But moving to a third world country where I don't know the language, I don't have any connections, resources, or opportunities that didn't make my life any easier by any means.

[Megyn Kelly]

I was just so scared of what's.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Going on in America politically that I.

[Megyn Kelly]

Was in fight or flight.

[Emily Jashinsky]

I was like, how am I gonna afford to survive? Like, how am I gonna find a place to live? Like, I was freaking, freaking out. And then I came here and made.

[Megyn Kelly]

My life so much harder.

[Emily Jashinsky]

I just left so many privileges and resources behind, and I want them back.

[Megyn Kelly]

It sucks.

[Emily Jashinsky]

There's a lot of things that, like, made me run away from LA and Orange county, some traumatic experiences and terrible people. But I left a lot of resources and great people behind, and I need to be in those environments again. I really miss luxury environments. Oh, oh, no, wait.

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm gonna give you a twofer from this gal, because Debbie Murphy, once I sent her this video, fell in love with this gal and decided to do a deep dive on Danica Kennedy and came up with the following video she had posted like a year ago. I think it was on like a little background. So you might need a little background on her to figure out how she got to be this way. And here it is in Sat 21. When I was a kid, somebody told me that I'm Native American. And I rode that so hard. I was running around town with a.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Big feather headdress and a wooden walking.

[Megyn Kelly]

Stick yelling, these are native lands. But when I was like 10 or.

[Emily Jashinsky]

11 years old, I was on my native lands rant and my mom was elbowing me to shut up.

[Megyn Kelly]

She was like, stop it, you're white.

[Emily Jashinsky]

I was like, no, it was what? I'm white. Like, I didn't know that. And I had like a full on identity crisis over it. I was so embarrassed.

[Megyn Kelly]

I thought it was the victim, not the oppressor.

[Emily Jashinsky]

And I'm like a cliche Irish person. I have the curls, the freckles, the storytelling, a history of drinking and slutty tendencies, the curses. But there was this whole trend about how both Irish redheads are basically black people and there are all these like similarities. So I just love that trend so much. It really hits home for me.

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm so white.

[Emily Jashinsky]

It's so embarrassing. I can't. Oh, no. I was gonna say Megan. It's not fair to pick on her, but she's actually just taking these like mainstream left arguments to their logical conclusions. So if anything, we must frost pick on her because she represents these ideas very well.

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm kind of falling in love with her. I love that she admits she desperately wanted to be Native American and then was continuously told she's white and then ultimately settled on I'm basically black because I'm a red headed Irish woman who drinks too much and is a slut.

[Emily Jashinsky]

And is a slut. It's called self awareness. And she at least, least maybe has a little bit of it.

[Megyn Kelly]

I mean, on behalf of all Irish people, I would like to object to part two there. All right, I get the drinking memes that of course, you grow up hearing that as an Irish person, but also slutty. This is new to me. I didn't know the Irish had cornered the market on sluttiness since winter. The Irish, the sluts. I object. I think she's been misinformed.

[Emily Jashinsky]

This is. I mean, you clearly have not done the reading. Meghan. Well known fact about the Irish, absolute horse. Kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm a short, fat slut. Name that movie anyone Anyone I know. The audience knows it. You can email me the answer. Meganaganekelly.com I'm a short, fat slut. I'll give you one other clue. I can't do any of these vile things, and I wouldn't want to. Okay, there's your clue for the day. Megan movie trivia. Okay. Danica will miss you. Good luck getting out of Costa Rica. And I'm sure she too misses her illegal delivery men bringing her rent the Runway and back to her luxury living. I think she'll be much happier here. Okay, we actually have to move on. I want to move on now. I want to talk about Karine Jean Pierre because she's in the news today and she's another dose of deliciousness. Karine Jean Pierre wrote this book. It comes out tomorrow. I can't remember what it's called in front of me. I don't really care. No one gives a shit. None of this audience is going to it. But she. She wrote a book, and it's about, I guess, why she left the Democrat party because she declared herself an independent. Now, you may or may not be aware. And when she dropped these weird, amorphous teases, we were all like, what is it about? What? What? Oh, it's called independent. Okay, well, there you go. Apparently not too memory memorable. And everybody was like, what do you mean you left the Democrat party? Like, you're. You're like literally the face of the Democrat party right now as you're leaving. And we weren't sure. And now she's made. Made. And she was saying she was so, like, disgusted with her party that she had to leave it. And we're all like, what'd they do? Like, there's so many things to choose from. Which specific thing set you off? And now we have finally learned what it was that made her so upset. Okay, here, hold on. Let's see. Do we have it where she explained it, guys, why she left. I'm looking at. Is that 41. Okay, there we go. 41.

[Emily Jashinsky]

I have to say, I thought you were going to say that.

[Megyn Kelly]

Try as you might to convince Joe Biden to drop out of the race.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Because what we were seeing is what you were seeing.

[Megyn Kelly]

And he was struggling, couldn't do it. I thought you were gonna say you were angry at that, but mostly I did, too. What you said in this book is you're angry at the people who tried.

[Emily Jashinsky]

To push him out. Yes, that's correct.

[Megyn Kelly]

Some Americans are gonna say, seriously?

[Emily Jashinsky]

And. But not just the party that pushed him out. The Party as it's behaving today in this moment, when we need a Democratic party to be fighting, to be an opposition party. And that really what ignited the book right after the administration, I was just minding my business, right? No longer a public servant, going to the grocery store, going to my kid's school. People would come up to me and strangers. And then we say, what's going on with the Democratic Party? Why aren't they fighting? We knew what was going to happen after this election. Why are they not prepared?

[Megyn Kelly]

So that's it. She's angry that they abandoned Joe Biden.

[Emily Jashinsky]

A very independent minded Meghan. She's the last person in America who still believes this. It's her and the Biden family. They are independent in this point. My whole, yes, exactly. My whole reaction to this is like she's trying to capitalize on the way the independent label right now is hot in the marketplace. Right. Like independent media. People identify as independents at pretty high levels right now. And so she wants to come in and look like she's someone who is leaving the two party system behind. She's so frustrated with everything. This is a period of very low institutional trust. So Karine Jean Pierre is going to come in, criticize the institutions, and that's her ticket. After the Biden era with which she really disgraced herself, she's made herself almost unemployable. That's just obvious here in dc. I mean, the, the level now, the reckoning that's happened with Biden being allowed to know, like media not criticizing him, other prominent Democrats not criticizing him, there's been at least somewhat of a reckoning over that, which is really bad for Karine Jean Pierre because she's the one who went out and put a bright, smiling face on the Biden administration every day for years as the president was ailing behind closed doors. So she's, she is basically unemployable. So she got the one thing right that people are sick of the two party system and establishment politics and all of that. What she didn't quite have the cleverness to realize is that clinging to this idea that Joe Biden actually should have stayed on the ticket is insane. And I wonder who she's really spending time with that made her think that could qualify as independent with any credibility on this book tour.

[Megyn Kelly]

Let me tell you something. Let me tell you what it's like to be an actual political independent. Karine Jean Pierre. Um, in my lifetime, I voted in nine, count them, nine presidential elections. And I have voted for Democrats in four of them and Republicans in five of them. I have as a broadcaster gone toe to toe with the best of them on both sides. I have had contentious interviews with many, many Democrats and many, many Republicans too. I challenge both sides and have a history of doing that. Kareen, let's check in on how Karine's life as an Independent is going because, because she did elaborate a little bit more. Maybe she's coming over to where I am. Let's check out SOP42. Met as an Independent myself.

[Emily Jashinsky]

I did read a few, you know, of these passages and go, it really feels like you're setting this up.

[Megyn Kelly]

As Democrats versus Republicans. Would you ever vote Republican?

[Emily Jashinsky]

No, I would not vote Republican. So then are you an Independent?

[Megyn Kelly]

No.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Here's the thing. What I'm trying to highlight is the system is indeed broken. We need a, a two party system that's functioning, that's actually functioning in order for our democracy to work. And what's happening right now, it is not working. If you're really an Independent, though, how.

[Megyn Kelly]

Can you rule out a whole party? I mean, presumably, I don't know where you live, there might be a candidate who's Republican who you happen to like more than the Democrat.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Well, I mean, look right now, where the Republican Party is in this moment, me, I care about the vulnerable communities out there. Project 2025 is something that they're touting and they're actually ticking off. That's scary to me.

[Megyn Kelly]

Ah, okay. So she's only independent insofar as she wants the ability to say, you should have stuck by Joe Biden. You know why, Emily? Because there was nothing wrong with Joe Biden. I'm just going to give you one more. This is Karine Jean Pierre describing her ride on Air Force One to the disastrous debate of his sought 39. Biden, you said you're a member of the inner circle and you never saw the decline.

[Emily Jashinsky]

And after that, I wrote how you.

[Megyn Kelly]

Even wrote, Kareem, that you were on the plane with him going to the debate and you didn't see anything.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Well, when we were Air Force One going on the, going to the debate, you got to remember his campaign. People were on the team, his family was on the team. I actually was one of those rare trips that I didn't really see him until after the debate, even though I was on the plan. So really, I take, I want everybody to know that I take this question incredibly seriously. I do. I was his White House press secretary, which means I had a role that saw him practically every day and traveled with him and you saw no more than 95%. We've always said we're not going to say, oh, he didn't age. He aged and he poked fun at it. We always owned up. And with age comes what happens when you get older.

[Megyn Kelly]

Okay, who is we? I'll talk about us as a show when I sit in this anchor desk because it's a little less self aggrandizing than I made the decision and I whatever. And a lot of what we do here is a team effort. She's not a we. She's, she doesn't have a job. She no longer has a team. We. We've always said we. You mean you. Why don't you just own it? She's somehow doing a wee thing here as cover for the fact that she did cover up for Joe Biden. But since it's a we, it's more like we saw what we saw. We all saw the same thing. We didn't see the decline, but we've always acknowledged that, you know, he was getting older.

[Emily Jashinsky]

What garbage. Also from Gayle King. Meghan. Who's asking? Karine Jean Pierre. How did you not see it? Gayle King, you cover the news every single morning. How did you not see it and take it seriously? Part of the reason we don't have a functional two party system is that the media is wildly dysfunctional and in the tank for one of the parties. Therefore there were no incentives from the media on major Democrats to disown Joe Biden and disown the DNC's efforts to push other people out of running in a primary against Joe Biden. I mean that like Kari Jean Pierre is absolutely correct, the system is not functioning. Part of that is because of journalists and the other part of that is because you have so much consolidated control in the Democratic Party, which she's not talking about one Democratic bit that allowed people like her to go out there without any shame, hold her head high and act as though everything was normal. Threaten. If you talk to Alex Thompson, I'm sure he'll tell you the the incentives were stacked against reporting one single thing about Joe Biden's ailing health until the very end when there was a Wall Street Journal story like a month before the debate. But the reason is that, and I think journalists should have made much more courageous decisions, but the reason is that they were being threatened by people like Karine Jean Pierre with losing all of their access to the Democratic Party and the Biden White House. So give me a break.

[Megyn Kelly]

And Gail, I mean in her defense Emily, she was doing astronaut training. She could not be responsible. You're also following the decline in the acuity. Give her a break. I'm sure she's behind the scenes doing the sub zero temperatures. You still have to function just like Alan Sheppard, you know, because she's the new Alan Shepard. Just ask her. The other place she could have found out she were busy with the astronaut thing is her best friend Oprah, who I'm sure also knew, just like Gail very clearly knew because she's shocked that Karine didn't know. So clearly Gail also didn't know. Which means I guess Oprah didn't know. No one knew. Which explains why Oprah, when she got to sit with Kamala Harris didn't say, why didn't you tell us? Instead she said Kamala Harris. And then that was it.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Is.

[Megyn Kelly]

That was pretty much it.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Well, and Gayle King is in these elite circles, like she does not cover politics. Every single day on CBS is unbelievable. She's been on David Geffen's yacht with the Obamas and not said a word about it during her coverage. So if anyone was in a position to know that people had had concerns behind the scenes about Joe Biden's health, it would, you know, it have been Gayle King. You don't think they're talking about that on David Geffen's yellow yacht? I think they were talking about that on David Geffen's yacht.

[Megyn Kelly]

100% she knew. They all knew. They were part of the COVID up. But here's Karine Jean Pierre. A little bit more of her. What? Shocked, Shocked, I tell you. Stop. 40.

[Emily Jashinsky]

But when we talk about the mental acuity, and again, I take this very, very seriously.

[Megyn Kelly]

Did I mention I take it seriously?

[Emily Jashinsky]

Saw anyone who wasn't there. I saw someone always engage. I saw someone who, who understood policy, pushed us on the policy and also understood history. And there were times. I'll tell you the story. There were times where he would call me into the Oval Office and I would be like, no, oh no. Because I knew whatever he was going to ask me was going to be direct, was going to be about a story he read about how we're pushing back, how we're pushing a message forward.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, that I believe because she's an idiot. And at his worst, Joe Biden was smarter than Karine Jean Pierre year. I'm sure she did panic every time she got called in there. Oh shit. Let's talk about the Nobel Prize, the nobles. Well, this year, Mr. President, the nobles are thinking about giving it to Someone noble. That's all I have for you so far. I mean, truly, she really might have been the dumbest person in the White House ever. And she was in Kamala Harris's White House.

[Emily Jashinsky]

She wasn't well liked in the White House either. And we only know that because now that she's of little use to people in the Democratic Party, because only after, after Kamala Harris lost was it okay to talk about what happened to Joe Biden and what happened and what went wrong in the administration. A lot of the stuff that was happening behind the scenes is now out in public that she was nobody's favorite. She wasn't super well respected. And it's kind of obvious to see why. I mean, there are a lot of different choices for that job that probably would have been better than Kari Jean Pierre. But she was probably also one of the few people willing to say, for the next several years, I'm going to go out there every single day and represent Joe Biden who is ailing. It's actually probably not super easy to get people to fill that role because you can see the writing on the wall, if you're a cynical Democrat in the year 2022, that, hey, Joe Biden's on his way out. The Biden family, you know, however this thing ends, the Biden family's access to power and their ability to influence the country is coming to an end very, very quickly. So she was probably part of a very small pool of candidates who were willing to put a brave face face and the smiling face on the Biden administration every single day, knowing what so many people knew behind closed doors.

[Megyn Kelly]

She thought that that was going to be her way forward, that that was going to get her on her next job just to be loyal to Joe Biden. And in the end, what Karine John Pierre cares about is, oh, it didn't work.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Our buttons must be down because of.

[Megyn Kelly]

This weird Internet shortage. Me. That's what she cares about.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Me.

[Megyn Kelly]

Okay, I'm going to give you, to your point, a little feedback. Just a little feedback we got from just the tease of her book. In June, this was reported by Axios Biden World goes scorched earth on Karine Jean Pierre. One former White House official who worked closely with her, quote, she was one of the most ineffectual and unprepared people I've ever worked with. She had meltdowns. After any interview that asked about a topic not sent over by producers, who is set, what producer is sending Karine Jean Pierre the topics for her or her boss? In advance. That's completely unethical. Okay. A former Biden communications official quote, the hubris of thinking you can position yourself as an outsider when you not only have enjoyed the perks of extreme proximity to power, which bestows the name recognition needed to sell books off your name, but have actively wielded it from the biggest pulpit there is, is. Is as breathtaking as it is desperate. It's difficult to see how this is anything but a bizarre cash grab. Right on. Former Biden's communications official. I agree with you, but I do want to give you a few excerpts from the book in a, in a dramatic reading. Emily Jashinsky, and see what you, what you think of what she's saying in this book. Okay. She writes about how she did the zoom call with Biden when he announced to the staff that he was stepping down and going to give it to Kamala. Right. Right before he did it. On the call, Biden seemed to be totally at peace with his decision. But I was stunned. My feelings a blur. I was angry and sad. I was enraged and heartbroken that this man had given more than 50 years of his life to serving the American people. And in the end, he'd been treated poorly by members of his own party. It was horrible, Horrible. I say Emily. She would continue with. Oh, this is one of my favorite. So then she writes about how that day, or within two days, she had agreed to go on the View, and the White House press corps wanted her to do a briefing, but she didn't. Okay. She writes as follows. Okay, standby. The White House Correspondents association wanted a briefing. We never did briefings when the President was away. And though we briefly considered my going to Delaware to speak to reporters, there was. We decided against changing things up and setting a precedent we didn't want to maintain. The White House Correspondents association wasn't happy about it. They wanted us to get rid of protocol, but we stuck to our guns. My first on the record interview in front of cameras since the President decided to not seek reelection would be Tuesday on the View. I decided to go ahead with my previously scheduled appearance on the View, seeing it as an opportunity to lift up the President and in so doing, raise my spirits as well. Stand by. One more she goes on the View and you tell me what this paragraph is about. The hosts and the audience were wonderful. They understood, they empathized, they were kind. After we finished chatting, Whoopi Goldberg told me to text her. Sunny Houston said, I've been doing a great job. Joy Behar said I needed to Come back on. Sarah Haynes gave me a big hug. And Alyssa Farah Griffin, the show's designated Republican, said she'd been watching my briefings and praised how I conducted myself. Boom. Mic drop, here I come, ladies of the View.

[Emily Jashinsky]

And the View, as we know, is representative of American women. Every View is represented on the View, Meghan. So if you get their approval, then you are beloved by the people. That is a sign that you are beloved by the people. And actually, I think I figured out the math here, because Karine Jean Pierre's only constituency, her only remaining constituency, has to be the Biden family. And the Biden inner circle, which, as we've seen from Hunter's recent inner circle interviews, is still convinced, like Karine Jean Pierre is, that the right thing to do was for Biden to stay in it and that he got railroaded by all of these other Dems. This is a book for that constituency. That's all it is. She put the independent packaging on it because she had some recognition. That's what people want. But the only audience. This is an audience of one family, and it's Biden. It's the Biden family and the remaining Biden insiders who are standing by their loyalty to Joe Biden because they really have no other option. And she just wants to make them see her loyalty because it's her only way to have any. Any influence, power, or access to money in the future. It's. It's just them because she's so thoroughly disqualified her herself with everyone outside of that. I would say even the View, at this point. Meghan will be tough on Kareem Jungki here.

[Megyn Kelly]

The is hiring her. There's no way they're hiring her. Even she is too dumb, even for those ladies. Now, what does that say? Can you imagine knowing that looking at yourself in the mirror in the morning, mornings you're too dumb to be cast on the View. I mean, that's. That's deeply alarming. But here's. Here's the one thing she has going for Running circles.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Yep.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, my God. She's got this going for her. She talks about this in the context of how could I leave the Democratic Party? It had defined my life, my career, everything I'd done to make people's lives better had been connected to it. The party was the vehicle that allowed me not just to have a free front seat to history, working first on Obama's presidential campaign and then in his administration, but also to make some history of my own as the first black woman and openly queer person to Ever be a White House press secretary? Little old me.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Me. Did she think, Think. You know what, Meghan? Actually, this is interesting because I wonder if this book had come out 2022, 2023, just in that environment, maybe these identity politics would have actually, like, overcompensated like that. The balance would have been that the media still treated her really well. Yeah. Or like, the media would have been like, yes, you are the first black queer woman to be the White House press secretary. We are going to ignore all of this other stuff, but that moment has passed. Like, this is. This is a post 2024 country, and even the media isn't going to give you a pass for being the first. First black queer woman to stand behind the podium.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, it started with Don Lemon. Remember when Chris Licht came in and it was like, oh, my God, Don Lemon, obviously the first. I'm black. I'm black and I'm queer. He did. He was literally on the night. He literally said on the prime time of. Of cnn, I'm black and I'm gay. Black and gay. And he still got fired. That's how bad he was. And that was peak wokeism when he got kicked out. Now she's trying that trick here to try to get rehired. And I mean, licking the high heels. Well, they don't probably wear high heels on the View. I think I see Whoopi in, like, combat boots. Licking the combat boot. Yeah. The Crocs of Whoopi Goldberg. I mean, have you ever heard something so pathetic? What a sycophant. The hosts in the audience were wonderful. They understood, they empathized, they were kind. Whoopi Goldberg told me to, you tell. Text her, like, on her own private cell phone number. Sunny Hostin said I'd been doing a great job. Joy Behar said I needed to come back on. Sarah Haynes, she. She gave me a big hug. And even Farrah Griffin said she'd been watching me and praised how I conducted myself. That is called drivel small talk. That they were making this. Who was the gateway to the White House? Like, I love that she actually treated it as real. It's like when people get these fake awards at these ceremonies and they treat them as real. It's like, don't you know you only got a fake award because they wanted to get you there to have, like, their event? You know, like, I. I get embarrassed when people pretend this shit is real. They were kissing your ass because you were a gateway into people who actually do matter, not because you actually were great at your Job. Give you the last word. Ej.

[Emily Jashinsky]

To put the. Well, I was gonna say to put the small talk in the book, like it is some type of genuine point of her credibility is really funny and I think it does really like that's. That is it puts it all, ties it all up with a bow. Very nicely. Encapsulates problems with Karine Jean Pierre. Just a total like elite obsessed with remaining elite and no self awareness.

[Megyn Kelly]

I feel like Karine Jean Pierre and this Danica Kennedy, who's also black, you know, the lady from the video, could spend some time together. I feel like a friendship could be born there. Maybe they could start their own alternative view as like an expat. Two expats in a way. Right? Two independent people.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Two independent minded people.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, right.

[Emily Jashinsky]

I actually think you're the one who needs to hang out with Danica Kennedy. I, I would love to see that.

[Megyn Kelly]

I want to get to know her better. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, you're not wrong. Debbie Murphy. Give me her number. Emily.

[Emily Jashinsky]

Thank you.

[Megyn Kelly]

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