The Megyn Kelly Show – Ep. 1225

SiriusXM, January 7, 2026

"Whining Walz and Crying Dokoupil, with Mark Halperin, and Truth About UFOs, with David Grusch and Rep. Anna Paulina Luna"

Episode Overview

This episode of The Megyn Kelly Show dives into several major political and cultural topics: explosive controversies around New York’s new “office to protect tenants” and its director, Sia Weaver; the growing scandal in Minnesota under Governor Tim Walz; national media trends featuring a segment on the new CBS anchor Tony Dokoupil; shifting winds in Republican politics with Mark Halperin; and, in the second hour, an in-depth discussion about UFO/UAP disclosure featuring whistleblower David Grusch and Rep. Anna Paulina Luna.

The episode is direct, often acerbic, and unapologetically critical, especially of left-leaning figures and institutions.

Major Segments and Key Discussion Points

1. New York’s Sia Weaver and the “Tenant Protector” Debacle

[01:00 - 19:01]

• Sia Weaver’s Rise and Controversy:

  • Megyn and Mark Halperin dissect the appointment of Sia Weaver as NYC's chief tenant advocate.
  • Weaver’s extreme statements ("property is theft," "homeownership is white supremacy") are scrutinized.
  • She’s accused of hypocrisy for living in a gentrified Brooklyn neighborhood and coming from family wealth while decrying gentrifiers.

• Demeanor & Public Response:

  • Weaver is described as fragile for crying and fleeing from reporters after being confronted about her past comments (Daily Mail/New York Post).
  • Megyn offers a tongue-in-cheek PR critique: “First of all, you desperately need...a little eyebrow pencil...some bronzer and some lip gloss...And I also have to talk to her about the crying.”
    • (Megyn Kelly, 10:19)
  • Halperin coins “Sad Sia” as a nickname, adding levity through mock sound effects.

• Hypocrisy & Vetting:

  • The hosts challenge how someone with such controversial public statements passed a city hall vetting process.
  • Discussion of how social justice posturing and "woke" rhetoric often mask personal privilege—Megyn: "All these people are bullshit. This is an act for show as is wokeism in general..."

• Political Forecast:

  • Weaver’s tenure seen as shaky; Mayor Zoran Mamdani likely faces ongoing controversy for keeping her in post.

2. The “Crying News Anchor” and Media Pandering

[19:01 - 34:54]

• Tony Dokoupil’s Appointment at CBS:

  • Megyn critiques Dokoupil’s self-styled “man of the people” approach: “That is bullshit pandering...He got the role because he gave Ta-Nehisi Coates a challenging interview.”
  • Adam Carolla’s critique is amplified: “You didn’t miss the story. You lied about the story,” referencing media coverage of issues like Hunter Biden’s laptop and the whipping “scandal” involving Border Patrol.
    • (Adam Carolla, 21:38)

• Media’s Emotional Turn (‘Feminization of Newsrooms’):

  • The emotional shift in news—presenters crying on air or sharing personal stories as part of hard news—is lampooned.
  • Megyn plays and mercilessly critiques a promotional clip of Dokoupil crying over his childhood in Miami.
    • “The sobbing, the repeated, the voice quivering, the inability to recover. What is that?” (Megyn Kelly, 29:35)
  • Mark Halperin wonders aloud why such footage is deliberately published.

• Vanity and Legacy of News Anchors:

  • Clips of Dan Rather and John Edwards obsessing over hair and wardrobe used to illustrate how legacy media jobs have become vanity projects rather than rigorous journalism.

• Cultural Labeling:

  • Megyn and Halperin satirize “limousine liberals" as “sumptuous socialists,” skewering performative progressivism.

3. Scandal in Minnesota: Gov. Tim Walz Under Fire

[34:54 – 51:15]

• Major Audit and Alleged Fraud:

  • Minnesota's Behavioral Health Administration (part of DHS) under scrutiny for possible fabrication of documents, massive grant mismanagement, and outright backdating during audits.
  • Example: An organization received $672K for a single month’s work with no proper documentation.
  • Legislators from both parties "deeply troubled" by findings.
  • "It's a shocking report...a culture of pervasive fraud, negligence, and deception." (Quoting GOP lawmaker at 39:24)

• Governor Walz's Response:

  • Instead of addressing the issues, Walz pivots to blaming Trump and Republicans, invoking Jan 6 ("the one war that's being waged against Minnesota...").
  • Halperin: “To pivot from accountability for his stewardship...to blame it all on Donald Trump is quite something.”
  • Megyn: “[This] is a hornet's nest...like you pull the one bee out and now another bee is flowing out.”

• Breaking News Insert — Minneapolis Shooting:

  • Later in the episode, Megyn updates on a breaking story where ICE agents involved in a fatal shooting of a woman believed to have attempted to run down officers with her car.
  • Multiple video angles analyzed for justification; Megyn ultimately says video supports officers' account: “This is very supportive of the police's story.” (114:48)
  • Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry’s immediate anti-ICE statement played and critiqued: “If somebody gets arrested...you have an obligation to cooperate with them...but you won't.”

4. 2028 Republican Landscape: The Rise of Marco Rubio

[45:49 - 51:15]

• Rubio’s Positioning:

  • Rubio acclaimed as having unprecedented power, now serving as Secretary of State and National Security Advisor in the Trump administration.
  • Mark Halperin describes Rubio’s unique status and predicted JD Vance is next in line for the 2028 GOP nomination, with Rubio as a potential running mate.

• Ideological Rift:

  • Internal GOP split: Rubio as “neocon-friendly” versus Vance’s “non-interventionist” approach. Halperin predicts their differences can be harmonized, referencing the Clinton-Gore ticket as precedent.

5. UFO/UAP Disclosure: David Grusch & Rep. Anna Paulina Luna

[63:11–end]

• David Grusch’s Whistleblower Testimony:

  • Grusch, a former Air Force intelligence officer, claims he uncovered programs to retrieve and reverse-engineer non-human craft (“crash retrievals and biologics”), hidden even from presidents and Congress.
  • Grusch's process: “I became convinced at a high confidence level...the US has engaged in a crash retrieval and reverse engineering operation of...non-human craft and recovering...biologics as well.” (66:36)
  • The secrecy is analyzed: offloading to private contractors to evade FOIA, career intelligence staff keeping secrets from appointees, bipartisan cover-up.

• Documentary “Age of Disclosure”:

  • The new film brings major figures (including Marco Rubio, physicists, and pilots) forward to support claims about government secrecy about UAPs.
  • Megyn: “If they're crackpots, boy, they found dozens of them who have been at the highest levels of our government over generations.” (70:14)

• Security and Policy Ramifications:

  • Extended discussion about why government withholds disclosure: strategic surprise, national defense, and bureaucratic inertia.
  • Rubio, in documentary, stresses how ignoring what "can’t be done" historically has led to disasters like Pearl Harbor and 9/11.

• Congress’s Role and Luna’s Efforts:

  • Rep. Luna details Congressional obstacles to disclosure, the difficulty in gaining access (“They're denying us the actual imagery, but the military officer was able to actually draw it for me.” – 94:44), and the need for new whistleblower protections.
  • She asserts the government’s extreme efforts to keep UAP information hidden “just kind of furthers our own opinions that there are people controlling this information.”

• Best Evidence & Public Conviction:

  • Grusch highlights declassified Australian and U.S. military documents that support the reality of UAPs; Megyn notes the consistency and credibility of multiple expert witnesses.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• On Sia Weaver’s Hypocrisy:

  • “This is not a million years ago. What do you regret about it?” (Mark Halperin, 09:10)

• On news anchors crying:

  • “The sobbing, the repeated, the voice quivering, the inability to recover. What is that?” (Megyn Kelly, 29:35)
  • “It's the fact that they put it out…You don't need to publish everything.” (Mark Halperin, 30:15, 30:49)

• On media trust issues:

  • “You didn’t miss the story. You lied about the story...Go do some fucking work. Don’t talk to me. Go do some journalism.” (Adam Carolla, 21:38)
  • “The way to succeed as a communicator is to be true to what of who you really are and what you believe, and to be consistent.” (Mark Halperin, 24:54)

• On UAP government secrecy:

  • “There's something violating our airspace, something fouling our ranges...This has implications for trust and confidence in the American government.” (Mark Halperin, 78:08)
  • “I became convinced...the US has engaged in a crash retrieval and reverse engineering operation of...non-human craft and recovering...biologics as well.” (David Grusch, 66:36)

• On government accountability and Minnesota fraud:

  • “To pivot from accountability for his stewardship...to blame it all on Donald Trump is quite something.” (Mark Halperin, 42:08)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:00 – Sia Weaver controversy and "tenant protector" role begins
• 09:10 – Discussion of Weaver’s past statements, PR advice, and public meltdown
• 19:01 – CBS Evening News/Tony Dokoupil and emotional shift in journalism
• 34:54 – Minnesota fraud and Governor Walz’s controversy
• 45:49 – Marco Rubio’s political rise, forecast for 2028
• 63:11 – UFO/UAP segment introduction, background on David Grusch
• 66:36 – Grusch describes his conversion from skeptic to whistleblower
• 78:08 – National security implications and the government’s persistent secrecy
• 94:44 – Rep. Luna underscores challenges for Congressional oversight on UAPs
• 109:02 – ICE shooting in Minneapolis, analysis of incident video

Memorable Moments

• Mark Halperin repeatedly refers to Sia Weaver as “Sad Sia,” critiquing her composure and the city’s political hiring process.
• The panel lampoons network news’ pivot to “crying” and “feminized” presentation; Megyn’s satirical, at times gleefully catty asides about TV anchors structure the whole segment.
• Footage of ICE agents in a Minneapolis shooting is dissected in blow-by-blow fashion as new video emerges, with Megyn re-evaluating the situation live for her audience.
• The UFO/UAP portion is serious and dense, with both whistleblower David Grusch and Rep. Anna Paulina Luna presenting succinct, sober arguments for ongoing government deception and calling for greater transparency.

Conclusion

This episode is a rich, rapid-fire synthesis of political commentary and breaking news, blending polemical dissection of progressive hypocrisy, media failures, and shifting political alliances with an extended foray into the controversial world of UFO/UAP government secrecy. As always, Megyn Kelly’s tone is bracing, unapologetic, and sometimes biting; guests like Mark Halperin, Adam Carolla, David Grusch, and Rep. Anna Paulina Luna bring both expertise and strong viewpoints.

Recommended for listeners who want:

• Insider-based political analysis
• Sharp media criticism
• The latest on government scandal and UFO disclosure
• A relentless, unsparing perspective on American institutions