Charlie Angus Reacts to Trump Canada Threats

Summary

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Episode Overview

Theme:
The MeidasTouch brothers dissect escalating tensions between the Trump administration and Canada, centering on Trump’s public threats to Canadian sovereignty, controversial military arrangements with Qatar near the Canadian border, and increasing Canadian outrage. The episode features a detailed guest interview with Charlie Angus, introducing Canadian perspectives on cross-border relations, trade, intelligence, and national security.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s Threats Against Canadian Sovereignty

• [00:29] The episode opens with Ben detailing a series of provocative moves by Donald Trump:
  • Public threats to Canada’s sovereignty and attacks against the Canadian auto industry during an Oval Office meeting with Prime Minister Carney.
  • Announcement of a new Qatari Air Force facility at Mountain Home Air Base in Idaho, close to the Canadian border, an arrangement Ben decries as “unprecedented” for US foreign military policy.
• Quote (Ben, 00:29):
  “I’m not even sure that this is even of precedent in the United States to allow any foreign country to build military bases in the United States, yet alone the country of Qatar…”

2. Qatari Military Base on US Soil Near Canada

• [02:08] Audio from a US administration official (Pete Hegseth) boasting about the new Qatari Air Force facility and Qatar’s alleged help in ‘lasting peace’ in Gaza. This is met with skepticism from the hosts:
  • Quote (Hegseth, 02:08):
    “I’m also proud that today we’re announcing… a Qatari Emiri Air Force facility at the Mountain Home Air Base in Idaho.”
• Hosts and guest question motives, noting Trump’s past favoritism toward Qatari wealth and perks.

3. Backchannels with Russia and “Open Channel” Communications

• [02:59] Ben praises Charlie Angus and pivots to Trump’s claims regarding Melania Trump maintaining ‘open channels’ with Vladimir Putin, furthering the theme of questionable foreign alliances:
  • Quote (Melania Trump, 03:30):
    “President Putin and I have had an open channel of communication regarding the welfare of these children for the past three months. Both sides have participated in several back channel meetings and calls…”

4. Trump’s Bombastic Claims on International Law and Canadian Lives

• [04:02] Trump claimed to have saved “100,000 Canadian lives” by destroying Venezuelan and Colombian boats allegedly tied to drug smuggling, actions that may violate international law.
  • Quote (Trump, 04:46):
    “We knocked out, probably saved at least 100,000 lives, American lives, Canadian lives by taking out all those boats coming in… now they don’t come in that way anymore.”

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Interview with Charlie Angus: Canadian Outrage and Strategic Rethinking

1. Canadian Public Fury and Boycott Movement

• [05:52] Charlie Angus describes Canadian sentiment as “beyond fed up,” with growing calls to boycott American products and confront store managers directly.
  • Quote (Charlie Angus, 05:52):
    “People are more firm than ever... not only angry and determined not to buy products, but they’re going into the stores and calling out the managers and saying, ‘We don’t even want to see these products on our shelves.’ That’s how deep the anger is right now.”

2. National Security: Trust Shattered

• [06:41–08:25] Angus expresses deep concern about the breakdown of traditional intelligence and security partnerships—like NORAD and Five Eyes.
  • Trump pushing Canada out of intelligence-sharing alliances due to Canada exposing Russian interference.
  • US willingness to allow a Qatari base is described as a “disturbing message.”
  • Quote (Charlie Angus, 08:25):
    “What you don’t have is giving a foreign nation a military base on your soil. What kind of message is that sending?”

3. Long-term Allies Treated as Adversaries

• [08:25] Historical context: Angus recalls when Trump first fired James Comey and shared Israeli intelligence with Russian diplomats, framing current moves as part of a pattern that erodes US-Canadian trust.

4. Implications for Canadian Policy and Defense

• [09:47–11:26] Canadian politics faces a turning point:

  • Prime Minister Carney tries to maintain cordial relations, but pressure (from public and Ontario Premier Doug Ford) is mounting for a more direct, confrontational stance.

  • Canadians are increasingly willing to accept economic pain to defend sovereignty.

  • Potential for Canada to change its intelligence and defense posture.

  • Quote (Charlie Angus, 11:26):
    “We see the polling showing we're willing to take serious economic hits to stand up for our sovereignty. So when the Prime Minister is doing the low key, the traditional Canadian way… he’s running out of room on that.”

5. Fear of US Overreach Into Canadian Territory

• [12:50] Angus describes US proposals that would allow American police/security forces to operate on Canadian soil as a red line.
  • Quote (Charlie Angus, 12:50):
    “They’re talking about changing laws so they think that American police and security should be able to operate on the Canadian side of the border. Well, hell with that.”

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Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• Angus calling Trump a “gangster” and warning that every time “you’re nice to him, they take ground from us.”

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• Comparison between Qatar’s economic influence and Canada’s longstanding alliance:

  • Quote (Ben, 07:25):
    “Qatari GDP... is relatively negligible… versus Canada, $4 trillion. And fought side by side with the United States against fascists, war after war… it sends a disturbing message.”

• Direct message to the Trump regime:

  • Quote (Angus, 13:42):
    “Well, Donald, your latest behavior, was it planned to just really, really piss us off, to really push us further? What was once your best neighbor, your best friend? Well, we aren’t friends anymore.”

• Scathing summary of Trump’s transactional foreign policy:

  • Quote (Angus, 14:25):
    “Anything’s open with you for sale right now, including your country, including your dignity, including the soul of your people. We’re not going to be sold down the river, not by you, not now, not ever.”

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Trump’s threats & Qatari base: [00:29]–[04:02]
• Interview with Charlie Angus begins: [05:26]
• Canadian intelligence/defense crisis: [06:41]–[08:25]
• Canadian public outrage & boycott: [05:52], [11:26]
• Discussion on Carney’s position/Canadian policy crossroads: [10:21]–[12:50]
• Message to the Trump regime & summary warning: [13:26]–[15:17]

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Tone and Language

The episode is charged, combative, and unapologetically pro-democracy. There’s a current of humor, particularly in the brotherly banter, but the focus is on alarm and strategic seriousness. Canadian guest Charlie Angus brings urgency and gravitas, matching the MeidasTouch brothers’ directness and sense of resistance.

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Takeaway

This episode is a vivid snapshot of the deepening chasm in US-Canada relations under Trump’s second term. The MeidasTouch brothers and Charlie Angus agree: trust is shattered, Canadian patience is wearing thin, and the “elbows up” movement to push back against US overreach is just beginning.

For more Canadian perspective, visit Midas Canada on YouTube ([15:17]).

Transcript

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[B]

Canadians are absolutely furious as always at Donald Trump and his regime. Earlier this week, of course, you had that disastrous Oval Office appearance where Donald Trump continued to threaten the sovereignty of Canada. He attacked the Canadian auto industry and I just thought Donald Trump's overall behavior was abysmal. And of course, Prime Minister Carney was there in the Oval Office. Then at the end of the week, we learned that the United States military is helping to build a Qatari Amiri Air Force facility in Idaho, which obviously borders Canada. So I'm just trying to get this straight as the Trump regime has pushed Canada far away from the normal coordination on intelligence as the Trump regime threatens Canadian sovereignty. Now a military base of a Middle Eastern country is going to be built in an area near the border of Canada. I'm not even sure that this is even of precedent in the United States to allow any foreign country to build military bases in the United States yet alone the country of Qatar having the Qatari like there's a Canadian military base, there's, there's joint operations, but we don't give military bases to countries alone. Donald Trump got the 747 jet from Qatar and now they just get military bases in our country. Just to remind you this is what went down with when Hegseth, who unlawfully refers to himself as the Secretary of War, was with the head of Qatar. Here, play this clip.

[C]

No one other than President Trump could have achieved the peace that we believe will be a lasting peace in Gaza. And Qatar played a substantial role from the beginning working with our folks to ensure that came about. So I want to thank you for that historic piece. We look forward to joining the President as that gets. It's already been delivered but as that's formally signed as well. And I'm also proud that today we're announcing or signing a letter of acceptance to build a Qatari Emiri Air Force facility at the Mountain Home Air Base in Idaho. The location will be host a contingent of Qatari F15s and pilots to enhance our combined training, increase lethality, interoperability. Just another example of our partnership. And I hope, hope you know, your excellency, that you can count on us.

[B]

Then, then next you had Melania Trump bragging that she had open channel communications with Vladimir Putin. Apparently there are open channel communications that are taking place. And also Putin sent over his diplomats to the United States to talk about trade deals with MAGA Republican congress members. We're not talking about sanctions. We're talking about doing trade with the United States. But here's what Melania Trump said, just to remind her. Play this clip.

[D]

President Putin and I have had an open channel of communication regarding the welfare of these children for the past three months. Both sides have participated in several back channel meetings and calls, all in good faith. We have agreed to cooperate with each other for the benefit of all people involved in this war.

[B]

And then when Donald Trump was with Prime Minister Carney earlier this week, in addition to bragging or threatening the sovereignty of Canada, once again attacking Canada's auto industry and then saying that people of Canada love the United States and don't worry, they'll be traveling back to the United States soon. Donald Trump also claims he saved 100,000 Canadian lives, he says, by blowing up Venezuelan fishing boats. And apparently we've learned also he blew up a Colombian shipping boat of people who are not narco terrorists. And in any event, all of the blowing up of shipping votes seems to be a violation of international law. But here's what he said with Carney. Let's play it zero.

[E]

And as you know, we've taken a very hard stand on drugs. This is also benefiting you. We've a lot of the, we call them the water drugs. The drugs that come in through water. They're not coming. There are no boats anymore. They're frankly, there are no fishing boats. There's no boats out there, period. If you want to know the truth. We say does anybody go fishing anymore? The fact is we knocked out, probably saved at least 100,000 lives, American lives, Canadian lives by taking out all those boats coming in. So it's and now they don't come in that way anymore. Now they'll come in other ways. And we're not going to allow that either. So we've done, we've done a great job on that.

[B]

But so now let me bring in leader of Midas Canada, leader of the resistance, tor former member of Parliament, Charlie Angus. Hey, Charlie, you heard there, Donald Trump is also saying that he saved all of these Canadian lives, which is a lie. But there were other parts there as well where he says Canadians love Us, they're all going to keep coming back. They will absolutely love us. And so what are you seeing in Canada right now, Charlie?

[F]

I don't think anybody in Canada expected that we were going to get a deal with this gangster. But people are beyond fed up. The fact that once again, he interrupts the Prime Minister. The prime Minister is trying to be nice to him to, you know, brag about us becoming part of the United States, destroying our sovereignty, threatening our auto sector, our manufacturing belt, saying that we're going to like going back. We are not going back. People are more firm than ever. I hear from people all the time. People are not only angry and determined not to buy products, but they're going into the stores and calling out the managers and saying, we don't even want to see these products on our shelves. That's how deep the anger is right now. But I think what's really concerning in the broader picture is that, you know, in addition to being America's number one trading partner, we've also been one of their closest, may be their closest defense partner because we are on the border. We, we've been with them in norad. We've been with them in the five eyes. Trump, they've talked about kicking us out of the five eyes network. We were there, one of their main security partners on this. They wanted to kick us out. Why? Because, well, we exposed Russian interference in the election as part of the intelligence sharing. They've talked about kicking us out of norad, which would leave that North America defenseless. They see us very much as an adversary, a threat, some country to be pushed around. And yet now we find out that they're going to put a Qatari base in Idaho on our border. This is just not a regime that can be trusted.

[B]

Right. There are national security implications in the United States, but also as our neighbor in Canada to say, so Trump's going to put military bases of Middle east countries on our border or right there. That's one point of it. And the other point which you say is, so you prefer Qatar and engaging in relations there over your long trusted partner, you know, to the north. I mean, again, you look at the Qatari gdp, you're talking about a neglig. I mean, you know, it's not nothing, but it's a relatively negligible gdp, you know, annually in the low, low billions, you know, versus Canada, $4 trillion. And fought side by side with the United States against fascists, war after war. But Trump likes the Qatari Gold and the 747 jets. It sends a disturbing message.

[F]

Well, I think with the message that it's sending is that as a former ally and as now a potential adversary, adversarial neighbor, they can't be trusted. They can't be trusted with intel. They can't be trusted in terms of coordination, you know, for training. If they wanted to train Qatari pilots. Well, the US Has a long history of that. Canada has a long history of that. Canada and the US have long histories of training together out doing naval exercises. If the Americans want to come up into the Arctic to train, we work with them. If we were going to get training in some area on defense, these are common things that you have between nations. What you don't have is giving a foreign nation a military base on your soil. What kind of message is that sending? But you know, this isn't the first time Canadian intelligence and Canadian military have had to really question where we're going with the United States. Remember when Donald Trump was first elected, the first time he fired James Comey and all that's coming back to bite us. Right after firing Comey, he went into the White House and met with Sergei Lavrov, who's a very militant ally of Putin. And he turned over information on an, on an Israeli agent who was working within Syria. I mean, he gave serious intel to the Russians. This stuff's staring us in the face. This guy has given stuff to Russia again and again and again. He can't be trusted militarily. He can't be trusted with intelligence. Then we have like Pete Hegseth. I mean, my God, if Pete Hegsett was elevated in the Canadian Navy, I think he'd end up with one of those sock and a soap accidents because this guy is completely unfit for the job. So Canadians are watching this and thinking this is a nation that we used to work very closely with in terms of trade, very closely with intelligence, very closely with military. We can't trust them on any front. And we're going to have to start really rethinking our own defense in light of this.

[B]

You know, it seemed that Prime Minister Carney was doing what, what he could try to do to be cordial and, and, and create some semblance of normalcy, especially as the United States, Canada, Mexico agreements are re up for negotiations. Like I, at one level I understand he's an affable, like he's like a nice guy in general, like that's how he is. But even when he's there and Trump behaves that way, I think it's going to get Tougher and tougher for him to be that way, especially I think on his right flank. When you see like the premier of Ontario, you know, channeling more of an even an elbows up movement, saying, I get it, you want to try to do this, do it. But at some point you got to hit back because you can treat Trump like this. And so it was an interesting dynamic because I got some pushback from followers saying, ben, you understand who Ford. I do. I totally get it. But the point I'm trying to make is you can't keep doing these Oval Office visits where Trump disrespect. That was the point I was trying to make.

[F]

No, I think you're right on. I think the Prime Minister came back, he needed to get a win because people are questioning being nice to Trump. People have said again and again they're willing to take economic hits. We see the polling showing we're willing to take serious economic hits to stand up for our sovereignty. So when the Prime Minister is doing the low key, the traditional Canadian way of like, okay, you know, nice to the drunk at the party so he doesn't do something stupid, but he's running out of room on that. And you know, Doug Ford and me and Doug Ford, we don't agree on very much, but he's channeling that anger that's out there that I'm hearing at the coffee shops where people are like, the hell with this. This is, this is. People get it. This guy's a gangster. He's pushing us around. He keeps expecting every time you're nice to him, they take ground from us. So we've got a situation where I think our Prime Minister is going to have to start pushing back harder. People do not want to go along any further right now when we see the United States is actually talking about changing laws so they think that American police and American security should be able to operate on the Canadian side of the border. Well, hell with that. We're watching them attacking their own citizens in the cities, unarmed citizens. You think we're going to let them come over the border? So the Prime Minister is going to have to start taking a much harder line the in terms of intelligence. You know, I can't say, but some of the military folks I've spoken with are seriously rethinking the trust that we had, seriously rethinking where we're going to put our investments and seriously having to rethink what kind of intel are we're going to be sharing with a country that's willing to, hey, you give us a jet or 747, we'll let you set up military bases in our country. If America is open for business like that with countries like Qatar, what's next? So Canada has to really rethink its role as neighbor, as trading partner, and traditionally as ally.

[B]

Charlie, before we go, we know that Donald Trump and his regime watch this. We know that the ambassador to Canada watches this. He sends you letters letting us know that he watches this and watches you. What's your message right now to the Trump regime?

[F]

Well, Donald, your latest behavior, was it planned to just really, really piss us off, to really push us further? What was once your best neighbor, your best friend? Well, we aren't friends anymore. We get that. The fact that you sent Pete Hoekstra, and we know that Midas lives in Pete Hoekstra's head. He seems to be obsessed with this. Well, Pete, you know the day's coming when people are going to start demanding you get given the bums rush because you're just a provocateur. But what's happening now, I think in terms of Donald Trump attacking citizens in his own country, attacking cities, and then turning American soil over to foreign military bases. I think ordinary Americans have gone along up to this point, are recognizing this is way, way beyond the safe zone. So for Canadians, we're going to do what we've got to do. This elbows up movement is not stopping. The boycott is getting stronger. It's going to start putting increasing pressure on our, on our government leaders who are now trying to feel, if there's an opportunity to work with you, it ain't going to happen, Donald. We get it. People get it. Ordinary people get it. So you're boxing yourself in further and further. So do what you're going to do, Donald, but explain to American people why, like, who's next? Who else are you going to give military bases to? When's Vladimir Putin getting his rocket bases in the United States? Maybe just outside of Washington? I mean, come on. Anything's open with you for sale right now, including your country, including your dignity, including the soul of your people. We're not going to be sold down the river, not by you, not now, not ever.

[B]

You know, I think if you were to poll American people or the world, who do you think Donald Trump supports more, US Or Russia? I think overwhelmingly you would see, you know, Russia is based on how Donald Trump's behavior is then. I also think that if you polled Donald Trump and his MAGA base and said, who would they rather be aligned with? I think that they're so maga mush brained out that they're, that they're like, they're, they're buying into the Trump Putin, you know, dynamic right now. Anyway, you and I will talk about that. It's her. But you and I will talk more about that. But everybody go to Midas Canada on YouTube. It's where you'll hear more of these discussions every single day from Charlie Angus. Let's get Midas Canada to 200,000 subscribers this weekend. Thanks. Appreciate you Charlie.

[F]

Thanks so much.

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