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John
Donald Trump is playing with toy planes in his office, the Oval Office right there. Take a look though, at that mirror behind you. Zoom in right there. That's real. That's Elon Musk right there. Watching Donald Trump play with toy planes as Musk is really running the show and just destroying our government. We just learned this as well, that Doge quietly has deleted it's purported 5 biggest spending cuts that it was celebrating or perhaps the headline should be lying about last week. So those are now removed from the site. And here was, here's what we're learning about as well. About 20 to 21 people who worked within the United States Digital Service Office, an office established during the Obama era that's supposed to help with all of the technology and the data and all of that. They're resigning. They're saying the reason for their resignation is because that they're unable to basically perform their functions. We swore to serve the American people and uphold our oath to the Constitution across presidential administrations. And we are basically being asked to violate our oath of office by Donald Trump and Elon Musk. So they resigned. Let's bring in Democratic Congressmember Robert Garcia. You know, we saw mass resignations, I think last week or the week before at the Department of Justice, both at SDNY as well as Main justice, we're seeing more mass resignations here. These are important people as well because they kind of hold the infrastructure together across presidential administrations. They're gone. Just what are you making of all of this? The chaos, the cruelty? What's going on?
Robert Garcia
I mean, look, this is, this is what Elon Musk has been all about. I think that it's, it's all chaos. It's complete destruction of the federal bureaucracy. And it's also incredibly damaging and hurtful to so many people. I've talked to so many people back home who are frightened. They feel like they're losing their job. They don't know what to do. They had to respond to Elon's crazy send me, you know, the five things you did for the week Email, which then they then retracted. So just a lot of chaos and confusion. And obviously at the same time, Elon Musk and his tech bro crew are lying and they're putting out savings that are not really happening. And so it's clear, the one thing that's clear with all of this is that Elon Musk is pulling the strings. And he, for all intents and purposes, is the president. Donald Trump has advocated all of his power and responsibility to Elon Musk. And Elon Musk gets richer by the day. He is just getting more and more and more wealthy. And being the richest man on the planet is not enough for Elon Musk.
John
I want to show you this. Congressmember. There was a press conference held earlier in the day with Caroline Levitt, the press secretary. She was asked a question about who is the Doge administrator. Is it. Is it Elon Musk who's. Who's running this thing that's inflicting so much pain on the American people? And they just. Gaslight, I want you to watch this.
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Thanks, Caroline. I wanted to ask about a federal judge yesterday was saying that they didn't know who the Doge administrator was and was asking the lawyer for the administration who it was. And the lawyer responded, I don't know the answer to that. Can you tell us who the administrator of Doge is? Again, I've been asked and answered this question. Elon Musk is overseeing Doge. There are career. There are no. Elon Musk is a special government employee, which I've also been asked and have answered that question as well. There are career officials at Doge. There are political appointees at Doge. I'm not going to reveal the name of that individual from this podium. I'm happy to follow up and provide that to you. But we've been incredibly transparent about the way that Doge is working, John.
John
I'm not going to reveal it. We've been incredibly transparent. I mean, this is. This is psycho. I don't know what in the world.
Robert Garcia
Yeah, I'm not sure how you can say in one breath that you're being incredibly transparent and then just right after then basically say that she's not going to reveal who the administrator is of their largest, splashiest agency that they somehow created out of thin air. So, no, it's crazy. At the same time, we have to take it very seriously that they are causing massive harm. And Elon Musk is, of course, doing all of this, as we know, and you have said many times, so that he can give himself A huge tax break. I mean, he wants to be even more wealthy. He wants his billionaire buddies and his companies to get larger tax breaks. And the only way to do that is to dismantle the federal bureaucracy, dismantle the federal government, and then, of course, damage it so much that then he and his pals can go around and scoop up contracts to then rebuild and build better products for the government. It's a complete sham, and it's got to be called out. And I'm glad that you're seeing Democrats on the ground right now starting to get really fired up about it.
John
Well, and I think you're also seeing independents, Republicans, people who are not political, also rising up. I mean, this is touching everybody in some way. Whether your 401k is down right now, whether you've lost your job, whether a friend or someone you know has lost their job and is worried about being, you know, homeless, whether you're on Medicaid and you're about to lose your Medicaid because of this GOP budget scam that's gonna help the billionair, whether you have essential services that you rely on, whether the Department of Education was actually providing you services, where it gets like, everyone's been touched, it seems already in such a destructive way. I'm seeing these Republican town halls, even where Republican constituents are standing up and saying, what the hell is going on here? Now, are you seeing the word vibe shift is the right way, but are we reading too much into these Republican town halls, or is something happening now that that feels and looks and is different?
Robert Garcia
Well, no, I think something's definitely happening. Look, I've been home and talking to folks his last last few days, and what you hear from, from, from everyone is that there is concern about Elon Musk, and certainly there's more concern amongst Democrats. And, you know, you have some Republicans that are in the tank for Donald Trump, but a lot of people that are just, you know, maybe they're there. They may not be super political, but there might be independents or Republican leaning. They all don't understand what Elon Musk is doing. And they're all hearing stories about a friend who may have lost a job or a family member that may have been in the Park Service or worked for the VA and now are having to essentially be frightened about keeping their jobs and not knowing if they actually have a future for themselves and their family. So you are hearing that. And I do think a lot of Republicans want to blame, oh, these are just Democrats coming to these town halls for Republicans that's just not true. Yes, there are all types of folks that come to these town halls, but a lot of Republicans and independents are also coming to these town halls for Republicans because they're pissed, they're upset. And so there is a shift on the ground that is happening. We just got to continue moving it and we got to continue to honestly encourage it because Republicans need to hear from people in their districts.
John
Now, let's talk about the attack on you by the Department of Justice, which is what now referring to itself as Donald Trump's personal lawyers. I mean, that guy, the United States Attorney from the District of Columbia, who had no federal prosecutorial experience ever before getting this position, he represent the January Sixers, he called them heroes. That's what he was known for before getting this very distinguished position. I mean, the United states attorney for D.C. is like the people who are usually the most experienced federal prosecutors of the most elite. And they give it to this guy. But, but he came after you. He wrote a letter saying that he was basically criminally investigating you because you utilized your free speech rights to criticize the Trump administration. And then he's out there saying, as president, this is what Martin writes as Trump's personal lawyers. He goes on and talks about how he's Trump's, as Trump's lawyers. We're proud to do this, we're proud to do that. Talk to us about these, you know, attacks on you. You know, what that letter was to you, what, what your response is going to be? Is there any information that hasn't been reported? I mean, are they, are they, what's the status of that investigation? Tell us, what do we know?
Robert Garcia
So, I mean, look, they've asked us to clarify our remarks. There's nothing to clarify. A metaphor is a metaphor. I've been using figure of speeches my whole life. We all have. And I'm not going to be silenced or back down because Elon Musk or Donald Trump get offended by something I say. We should be encouraging folks to bring the fire to our, to our debates. We should be encouraging folks to be tough in this moment, not to retreat. So we're not going to back down on that. But look, I will see what they choose to take, to take as the next step. This U.S. attorney has said that he's opening up this investigation. I'm not sure what much there is to investigate. I said what I said on cnn. It was out in the public sphere, and no reasonable person would assume that I said anything that was threatening. It was a figure of speech. I mean, saying that you think that the American people want us to bring weapons to this bar fight? That's a figure of speech and I think we all know that. So we'll see what they do. But we're going to keep being loud and strong. And like I've told other Democrats, we can't be intimidated by these tactics.
John
Maybe if you can, we know that a lot of the magas watch this. Musk may be watching this now. Would you direct a message? A lot of the constituents are saying, why isn't Musk, you know, testifying before Congress? Why isn't he showing up before Oversight or any of these, you know, hearings? So if he was watching this now, what would your message be about, you know, testifying before the House and letting the American people know what the hell he and, you know, Mr. Big Balls and his crew of 19 to 25 year olds are doing now?
Robert Garcia
Elon Musk, what are you afraid of? Don't be afraid of coming in front of our committee is what I would say to Elon Musk. I mean, I'm not sure what there is that he's so afraid of. Folks like myself or Jasmine Crockett or Maxwell Frost just come before us, allow us to ask you some questions to get to the bottom of what's going on. And you should be able to stand in front of the American public and be honest about what you're actually trying to do. And I think that's something that we've asked for. Republicans shot that motion down unanimously. They don't want Elon Musk to testify because they don't want to be held accountable. It's quite cowardly.
John
Congressmember Garcia, please join us again. Let's, you know, just at this point, it doesn't feel like, at least amongst the American people, as a Democrat, Republican, independent thing, it really feels like a bunch of tech billionaires are running the show, literally. You saw that first photo I showed you with Musk in the background, like, pulling the strings as Trump's playing with like a toy, you know, and they're like, just screwing the people. And people are like, what the, what the hell is this? Like, this isn't what I learned about in government class. This isn't checks and balances. This is some idiocracy, authoritarian crap. Anyway, thanks for. Thanks. If you want to say anything else, I'll let you get the final word.
Robert Garcia
No, just thanks for keep reporting this story. We got to, we got to continue to expose Elon Musk and, you know, turn this around. So thanks, everybody.
John
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Episode: Congressman Robert Garcia on Trump Chaos
Release Date: February 26, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Guests: Congressman Robert Garcia
Duration: Approximately 12 minutes
At the outset of the episode (00:30), host John sets the stage by highlighting the turbulent state of the U.S. government. He emphasizes the alarming influence wielded by Donald Trump and Elon Musk, describing a scenario where institutional integrity is under threat.
“Donald Trump is playing with toy planes in his office, the Oval Office right there... Elon Musk is really running the show and just destroying our government.” – John (00:30)
John brings attention to recent mass resignations within the United States Digital Service Office, an entity established to bolster federal technology and data management.
“About 20 to 21 people who worked within the United States Digital Service Office... they're resigning. They’re unable to basically perform their functions... being asked to violate our oath of office by Donald Trump and Elon Musk.” – John (01:30)
Congressman Robert Garcia joins the discussion to provide insights into the ongoing chaos. He attributes the turmoil to Elon Musk's disruptive influence and criticizes the erosion of federal bureaucracy.
“This is all chaos. It’s complete destruction of the federal bureaucracy... Elon Musk is pulling the strings. He is just getting more and more wealthy.” – Robert Garcia (02:15)
Garcia elaborates on the fear and uncertainty among federal employees, highlighting how Musk's actions are destabilizing essential government functions.
John introduces a pressing issue regarding the Doge administration, questioning the transparency and leadership within this agency.
“A federal judge... was asking the lawyer for the administration who the administrator of Doge is... Elon Musk is overseeing Doge... She’s not going to reveal the name of that individual.” – John (03:17)
Garcia responds critically, pointing out the blatant lack of transparency and the dangers it poses to governmental integrity.
“How can you say you’re being incredibly transparent and then just... not reveal who the administrator is of their largest, splashiest agency... So, no, it’s crazy.” – Robert Garcia (04:34)
The conversation shifts to the recent attack on Garcia by the Department of Justice (DOJ), now branded as Trump’s personal lawyers. The DOJ initiated a criminal investigation into Garcia for allegedly using his free speech rights to criticize the administration.
“They’ve asked us to clarify our remarks. There’s nothing to clarify... A metaphor is a metaphor... We’re not going to back down.” – Robert Garcia (09:04)
Garcia defends his statements as figurative language and rejects the DOJ’s attempts to silence dissent, asserting the importance of remaining vocal against intimidation.
John challenges Garcia on the absence of Elon Musk's accountability, urging him to address Musk's reluctance to testify before Congress.
“Elon Musk, what are you afraid of? Don’t be afraid of coming in front of our committee...” – Robert Garcia (10:46)
Garcia echoes the demand for transparency, accusing Musk and his associates of evading responsibility and undermining democratic institutions.
“Republicans shot that motion down unanimously. They don’t want Elon Musk to testify because they don’t want to be held accountable. It’s quite cowardly.” – Robert Garcia (10:46)
As the episode wraps up, Garcia emphasizes the need to expose Musk’s actions and urges continued vigilance to protect democratic values.
“We got to continue to expose Elon Musk and... turn this around.” – Robert Garcia (12:06)
Erosion of Federal Institutions: The episode underscores the destabilizing effects of Elon Musk’s influence on the federal government, leading to mass resignations and operational paralysis.
Lack of Transparency: Concerns are raised about the opacity within the Doge administration, questioning the legitimacy and accountability of its leadership.
Political Intimidation: Congressman Garcia discusses the DOJ's aggressive stance against him, framing it as an attempt to suppress free speech and political dissent.
Demand for Accountability: There is a strong call for Elon Musk to testify before Congress to address his substantial influence over governmental processes and to ensure transparency.
In this episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, Congressman Robert Garcia collaborates with the Meiselas brothers to dissect the troubling intertwining of tech billionaire Elon Musk with political power structures. The discussion reveals deep concerns about democratic erosion, institutional transparency, and the overarching influence of wealth on governance. Garcia's candid insights and unwavering stance against intimidation highlight the critical need for accountability and the protection of democratic principles.
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