The MeidasTouch Podcast

Epstein Survivor Anoushka de Georgiou Tells All

Date: February 7, 2026
Host: [MeidasTouch Network], Interviewer: Ben Meiselas
Guest: Anoushka de Georgiou

Overview

In this deeply personal and wide-ranging interview, Epstein survivor Anoushka de Georgiou joins Ben Meiselas to recount her experience as a victim of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. De Georgiou details the trauma of her abuse, the ongoing retraumatization caused by the mishandling of the Epstein files by the Trump Department of Justice, and her pursuit of justice alongside fellow survivors. The episode spotlights her journey from grooming and abuse as a teenager to her courageous testimony and activism. The conversation also critiques systemic failures and explores the deliberate enabling and attempted cover-ups that continue to shield powerful abusers.

Key Discussion Points & Timestamps

1. The Impact of the Recent Epstein Files Release

[02:30 – 09:58]

• Breach of Trust & Retraumatization:
  Anoushka expresses profound horror at the partial release of Epstein files, describing the inclusion of her personal information as a fresh trauma inflicted by those sworn to protect her.

  • Notable Quote:

    "It's like being raped by the Department of Justice because we are exposed, we're vulnerable."
    — Anoushka de Georgiou [05:16]

• Violation of Privacy:
  Victim identities and sensitive information were exposed without consent, leading to real threats and emotional distress.

  • De Georgiou was not given a choice in being outed.
  • She receives threatening messages and experiences acts of intimidation at her home.

• Institutional Failure or Deliberate Malice:
  Anoushka questions whether the DoJ’s actions are gross incompetence or a deliberate strategy to harm survivors.

  • Notable Quote:

    "...If it's not incompetence, then it must be deliberate. And if that's true, then everybody responsible for that deliberate betrayal of the victims should be held responsible."
    — Anoushka de Georgiou [09:35]

2. Grooming and Initial Exploitation

[09:58 – 22:23]

• First Contact – Age 16:

  • Anoushka describes her lonely, unstable teenage years returning to London from France – circumstances Maxwell skillfully exploited.

  • Ghislaine Maxwell presented herself as a sophisticated, nurturing mentor, using shared backgrounds to establish trust and admiration.

    • Notable Quote:

      "She was everything that I needed and everything that I wanted, because I really wanted to...aspire to be like her."
      — Anoushka de Georgiou [11:38]

  • Maxwell groomed Anoushka, then introduced her to Epstein under the guise of mentorship and opportunity.

  • The first meeting with Epstein felt like a weird “interview” where she was subtly demeaned and manipulated into compliance with odd requests.

3. Escalation of Abuse and Isolation

[22:23 – 28:58]

• Palm Beach – Trapped and Abused:

  • About a year and a half after initial contact, Anoushka is summoned to Epstein’s Palm Beach estate at age 18.

  • She is isolated—without means of escape, phone, or support—creating the perfect environment for systematic abuse.

    • Notable Quote:

      "Once I got there, I was totally out of my depth...I was just there at their disposal and that’s how I was treated."
      — Anoushka de Georgiou [24:19]

  • Outlines the presence of other powerful men in the environment, and the constant, chilling reinforcement of the idea that wealth and influence provide total immunity.

    • Notable Quote:

      "If you know the right people and you have enough money, you can do anything you want and never get a consequence."
      — Anoushka de Georgiou [27:32]

4. Press Manipulation, Donald Trump, and Lies in the Media

[28:58 – 34:38]

• Media Disinformation:

  • Ghislaine Maxwell planted a false story in the Sunday Mirror implying a relationship between Donald Trump and Anoushka.

  • Trump was never abusive and there was no relationship, but Maxwell orchestrated introductions for her own and Trump’s image.

  • Notable Quote:

    "I was put in an apartment by Jeffrey...And I think one of the things that's very dangerous to survivors is misinformation and disinformation."
    — Anoushka de Georgiou [32:34]

  • Maxwell coached Anoushka on how to dress and behave with Trump and other powerful men.

5. Coping Mechanisms, Escaping the Cycle, and Sobriety

[34:38 – 38:05]

• Survival Through Addiction:
  • Describes heavy drinking and substance abuse as a near-universal coping mechanism among survivors.
  • Recovery and sobriety (22 years and counting) provided the clarity and strength to process the trauma and stop responding to Maxwell/Epstein’s summons.
    • Notable Quote:

      "Hopefully, the best thing you can hope for is to develop and discover healthier coping mechanisms so that when the attacks come...you don't destroy yourself or kill yourself."
      — Anoushka de Georgiou [37:21]

6. Legal Proceedings, Testifying, and Ongoing Retaliation

[38:05 – 39:53]

• Impactful Moments in Court:

  • Speaks powerfully about the unprecedented opportunity given by Judge Berman for survivors to speak.

    • Notable Quote:

      "He to give us the opportunity to come and speak our truth without a conviction. That was an unprecedented legal moment."
      — Anoushka de Georgiou [39:54]

  • Recruited by the FBI to be part of the Ghislaine Maxwell indictment; faced severe harassment and threats as a result.

  • The psychological toll is immense and ongoing, with moments of paranoia validated by real dangers.

7. Justice for Ghislaine Maxwell, the Trump DOJ, and Pardons

[39:53 – 47:51]

• From Prison to VIP Treatment:

  • Maxwell was convicted and initially sent to maximum security but now enjoys VIP privileges in a minimum security prison—allegedly via intervention from Trump's lawyer.

    • Anoushka expresses frustration, noting the possibility Maxwell could still be pardoned, and that institutional protection for perpetrators remains robust.

  • Notable Quote:

    "I think Maxwell has a lot of information and therefore a lot of power in this situation, and that's why she's sitting where she's sitting and not where Epstein's sitting."
    — Anoushka de Georgiou [47:23]

8. The Intentional Chaos of the Epstein File Dump

[47:51 – 49:52]

• Deliberate Obfuscation by Authorities:

  • Anoushka believes much more evidence is being concealed.

  • The strategy: an incoherent “dump” of real, false, and misleading documents, designed to discredit and confuse survivor stories.

    • Notable Quote:

      "To have disinformation, misinformation, and real facts all mixed in together really just creates chaos. It creates anarchy...that's what they're going to use."
      — Anoushka de Georgiou [48:19]

  • Despite being exposed, she’s committed to keeping up the pressure.

9. Survivor Solidarity and the Fight for Change

[49:52 – 53:12]

• The Power and Pain of Survivor Testimony:

  • Speaks about the loss of fellow survivors and the responsibility she feels to carry on, including Annie Farmer, Carolyn Andriano, and Virginia Giuffre.
    • Notable Quote:

      "...things are not changing in the world or in this country or in this area at the pace or that I'd like them to, things are changing and we are making a difference. And I will continue to fight."
      — Anoushka de Georgiou [52:43]

• Dedication to Advocacy:

  • Anoushka will remain a vocal advocate, using her public identity and platform to fight for justice and support fellow survivors.

Notable Quotes

• On DOJ’s Failure:

  "It's like being raped by the Department of Justice because we are exposed, we're vulnerable."
  [05:16] — Anoushka de Georgiou

• On Institutional Betrayal:

  "...If it's not incompetence, then it must be deliberate. And if that's true, then everybody responsible for that deliberate betrayal of the victims should be held responsible."
  [09:35] — Anoushka de Georgiou

• On the Grooming Process:

  "She was so interested in me. And that's a wonderful feeling for somebody who doesn't really know where they belong."
  [12:38] — Anoushka de Georgiou

• On Abuse’s Aftermath:

  "Hopefully, the best thing you can hope for is to develop and discover healthier coping mechanisms so that when the attacks come...you don't destroy yourself or kill yourself."
  [37:21]

• On Why Maxwell Was Protected:

  "I think Maxwell has a lot of information and therefore a lot of power in this situation, and that's why she's sitting where she's sitting and not where Epstein's sitting."
  [47:23]

• On Commitment to Advocacy:

  "...I will continue to fight. And I'm very grateful that you provide a platform for survivors to speak. And I will continue to speak until I get what we came for."
  [52:43]

Memorable Moments

• De Georgiou describing the moment she realized her personal information had been published — pulling over while driving, everything feeling in "slow motion" [05:40]
• The insidious tactics of grooming, using praise for small acts to draw victims in [13:30–14:00]
• The deliberate design of chaos in the file dump to protect powerful interests [48:00–49:20]
• Tribute to fellow survivors who have died, and the emotional burden of being one of those left to speak up [51:23–52:43]

Final Thoughts

This episode is a candid, emotionally charged account of survival and activism in the face of predatory power. De Georgiou’s testimony reveals institutional complicity and the ongoing challenges faced by survivors. The Meiselas’ approach—center survivors and keep their voices central to the narrative—underscores the episode’s purpose: ensuring justice, remembrance, and real change.