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Political Commentator
Wisconsin is under attack by the Trump Musk Doge regime. And Wisconsin voters are absolutely pissed off. Look, it's no secret that Trump was able to eke out and win the state in the 2024 election by promising lower prices on day one, by promising to end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours, making housing more affordable, promising this, promising that. I alone can fix it. Which, of course, we were warning about was a lie, but some people bought into it. Donald Trump would dress up like a, like a garbage man and do these, you know, ridiculous stunts. Remember, the garbage man stunt was in Wisconsin. I think we've got a clip of it just to remind you. When he went extra orange and dressed up like the garbage man. Here, play this clip. He went in the garbage truck and he promised that he was going to do all of these things. Well, look, Trump's tariffs are hitting the farmers, manufacturers, workers in Wisconsin hard. Trump's attack on the Department of Education is devastating to Wisconsin. Donald Trump's attack on Social Security shutting down Social Security offices and services, it's hitting Wisconsin hard. Trump's attacks on Medicaid. There's not a single thing that Trump's, you know, doing that isn't hitting Wisconsin hard. And, you know, I'll just show you from a local Wisconsin News Channel, WSIN 12. I mean, this professor at Madison just, he explains, look, it's, it's when you do these tariffs, tariffs up, tariffs down, you know, Wisconsin's kind of biggest, you know, you know, exports, imports. I mean, Canada, Mexico, China. Here, play this clip. So when you have this sort of.
Ryan Reynolds
Whiplash with tariffs, first they're on the.
KFC Representative
Table, they're off the table.
Ryan Reynolds
They're 15%, they're 25%.
Political Commentator
How does that impact the economy when it's not stable?
Ben Wickler
Well, one of the things that most businesses really don't like is uncertainty. And it's almost always easier to deal with a known situation and figure out how to best approach it than to be in a situation where you're not quite sure what your steps should be, because you're not quite sure what the environment in which you're going to be operating will be. And that applies equally to dairy farms, dairy processing businesses, food retailers. And it's really sort of a nationwide issue that we should be thinking about.
Political Commentator
So how significant of a trade partner is a country like China for dairy farmers?
Ryan Reynolds
And what is the possible impact for Wisconsin's dairy farmers?
Ben Wickler
Sure. So I like to point out to people that our top three dairy trading partners, and this is national level data, are Mexico, Canada, and China, in that order. So dairy trade is really pretty important for the US Dairy industry. It's been the main source of growth in milk production and product sales over the last 10 to 15 years. And so there are potentially some pretty major impacts of having strained trade relations with those major trading partners. About 40% of our dairy product exports by value went to those three countries in 2024. So this is a pretty important part of the dairy economy in the US and in Wisconsin.
Political Commentator
So now we have a major, major election in Wisconsin for an open Supreme Court seat. There you have a doge candidate, a MAGA candidate, Brad Schimmel. Then you have a pro democracy, law and order candidate, Susan Crawford. We've had Susan Crawford on our program before, and you've heard her talk about upholding the law. And on the other hand, Brad Schimmel realizes right now Trump must doge very, very unpopular. So what are they doing? Well, Elon Musk is coming into Wisconsin and he's announcing it. He's just giving away a million dollars. Giving away checks, like throwing money at people. So there's this post. Excited to announce our first Million Doll Award for supporting our petition against activist judges in Wisconsin. Next Million Doll Award will be announced in two days. Then he posts the following. Today on Sunday, I will give a talk in Wisconsin. Entrance is limited to those who have voted in the Supreme Court election. I will also personally hand over two checks for a million dollars each in appreciation for you taking the time to vote. This is super important. I don't know. It looks and feels. As a lawyer, just giving you my opinion feels illegal to me. But let me bring in the Democratic chair of the Wisconsin Party, Ben Wickler. Hey, Ben. We just learned that Elon Musk deleted the tweet where he talked about paying people $1 million to show up at a town hall. I mean, was that a crime that we saw what's going on in Wisconsin right now?
Ryan Reynolds
Elon Musk deleted that tweet because he knows that that tweet was a crime. And it's still a crime in Wisconsin law. It is plain as day. You cannot promise something of value in order to induce someone to vote or refrain from voting. This is Wisconsin statute, and it's a felony to cross that line. Elon Musk has committed, blatantly, obviously, an illegal act to help Brad Schimmel buy his seat on the Wisconsin State Supreme Court. And Elon Musk should be brought to justice for that crime. This is something that we should not accept in a democracy. Vote buying. And at this point, we have to ask whether Brad Schimmel knew about this, whether he approves of this, whether he's going to condemn Elon Musk for trying to buy votes, for promising something of value, which is itself a criminal act. This is not. This is not an edge case. This is a central question for whether we're going to survive as a democracy or whether the richest man in the world will be able to pay people in order to get them to vote. And we need to make absolutely clear that this will not be accepted in Wisconsin or anywhere else across this country.
Political Commentator
Ben, you believe a crime was committed, and that's why Elon took it down. And it is possible. What did Brad know? When did he know it? That needs to be looked into now, huh?
Ryan Reynolds
Absolutely. I mean, the idea of saying, if you vote, you can come to my town hall and you could get a million dollars, that is so far beyond the criminal threshold for vote buying. The threshold is if you offer someone something that's worth at least $1, then that itself is a violation of the vote bribery, the election bribery statute in Wisconsin. So you have to ask whether. Whether Brad Schimmel will immediately denounce this and call for an investigation, whether he knew about this in advance, whether he's planning to appear with Elon Musk. When Elon Musk comes to Wisconsin this Sunday, you know, was it Brad Schimmel calling Elon Musk and telling him to delete the tweet because they could get in trouble. What happened here, we don't know. But what we do know is this. If the richest person in the world can go around buying votes in order to buy control of courts the way he seems to have bought control of the White House, then we have lost any semblance of the rule of law in the United States of America, and our democracy has been smashed to pieces, or I should say, cut with Elon Musk's chainsaw. We need to fight back against this, and it should be prosecuted in court, and it should be just triggering an avalanche in the ballot box with voters making 100% clear that our democracy can't be bought. Susan Crawford's Victory will send a message to the whole country that Elon Musk's illegal vote buying schemes will trigger an electoral avalanche in the other direction. And if we can make that clear, maybe we can shut this down before it infects the rest of the country in 2026 and beyond.
Political Commentator
You know, I don't know the laws and you know, I mean, I have a sense of the laws in Wisconsin and generally, you know, in the United States when it comes to these things. You know, we saw, I think in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania when Musk was doing it there with certain populations, he likes to claim, like, well, actually what this is really about is a spokesperson. I'm giving somebody a job and I'm giving them a spokesperson position. So it's. So that's what it is. I mean, look, I think the people of, like, do the people of Wisconsin get what's going on though? And what do you say when he makes that kind of argument?
Ryan Reynolds
People absolutely get what's going on. And before it was, you know, if you sign my petition, then you can be entered in this drawing or, you know, we can give you a spokesperson fee or whatever it is. This crosses all of those lines because this is explicitly. You can get into my town hall if you voted. And if you voted, then I could give you this check. And so it is, it is, you know, Wisconsin statute says offering, giving, lending or promising to give or lend anything of value to go to or refrain from going to poll to the polls, that that's a felony in the state of Wisconsin. So he's, he's really like way out over his skis to the point where his skis are on the ground and he's flying over the cliff like Wiley Coyote with this thing. And Brad Schimmel needs to condemn it immediately. I mean, this is an attempt to buy votes by someone who is doing everything in his power, including at this point, close to $25 million by our count, to help Red Schimmel get elected to the top legal job in Wisconsin, the state Supreme Court office. I think Brad Schimmel is now tied indelibly to this kind of criminal vote buying behavior. And that creates a giant political problem for him. Elon Musk's money is, and his, his behavior in this race is now politically a disaster for Brad Schimmel. And what we can see is that Democrats, people who believe in democracy, the rule of law, they are voting at explosive numbers in a way that I think could demonstrate to the whole country that Elon Musk is not the guy that you Want on your side in this election or any other going forward.
Political Commentator
Talk about this race, Ben. I mean, we've had the judge, Susan Crawford on twice. I've covered, you know, how dangerous, you know, Brad Schimmel is. I mean, I've showed. I mean, first Brad Schimmel was trying to be like, yeah, you know, I'm not really like a Trump guy. Like, he tried to do that thing. And then all of, like, he dressed up like Trump for Halloween. He wears, goes to boat parades saying, like, I love things. It's like, Jesus, beer and Trump. Like, what's something like that? Like, you know, he wears, like, Trump shirts out and about this guy. So he's clearly a Trump doge, you know, kind of puppet. But explain to the people watching what, why is this so important? Why is he so dangerous? What are the stakes?
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, so that clip that you played of Trump in his garbage, garbage man outfit. Brad Schimmel dressed up as that guy for Halloween right before the election this November, this last November. Brad Schimmel is a dyed in the wool MAGA warrior. And he wants to use the Supreme Court, as he puts it on the campaign trail, to be Trump's support network. He says that Trump keeps losing in court, which you and I in the audience knows, because Trump keeps breaking the law. But Schimmel says the only way to stop this is in the courts. So he is running to allow Trump to break the law and now clearly to allow Elon Musk to break the law. So there's a deep question of accountability in the rule of law here. There's also Elon Musk has his own personal case around Tesla dealerships going through the Wisconsin court system. So, as always, this is a question around Elon Musk lining his own pockets. But it's also this question of whether people who are committed to public service can win elections in Wisconsin and across the country, because Susan Crawford is exactly the kind of dedicated public servant that Elon Musk hates and is trying to drive out of the government. You had her on. You heard her story. She, she has been a prosecutor for years and years, keeping the public safe. She went into state government. She led environmental law enforcement at the Department of Natural Resources, which is something that Elon Musk clearly hates and loathes as he tries to gut any environmental protections in our federal government. In private practice, there was a case called Planned Parenthood versus Brad Schimmel. Brad Schimmel said that it was an honor to have his own name in that case. The lawyer for Planned Parenthood was Susan Crawford. She has fought for reproductive freedom successfully in our state. She defended voting rights when they came under attack by Republican voter suppression. She defended workers rights. She has this track record that demonstrates her value. And now she's a judge who treats everyone equally when they walk into her courtroom, regardless of whether they're the richest person in the world or a random citizen. That's what you want. You want the law applied without fear or favor to anyone. So electing her is also an act of defiance against the people who want to tilt the playing field, who want to rig this country for the mega billionaires at the expense of everyone else. It's an act of defiance against a Trump Musk administration that's trying to shred our Constitution and the idea of equal justice under the law. It is an active affirmation of the best traditions of this country that we're always aspiring to reach for. Susan Crawford is the kind of person you'd be proud to have on your Supreme Court. And Brad Schimmel represents everything that the people who believe in democracy in this country are fighting against. The corruption, the extremism, the total partisan loyalty to someone who wants to be king instead of to the Constitution that you're supposed to swear an oath to protect. These are the stakes. And what happens in Wisconsin, the closest state in the country, it's the bellwether for what happens in the entire nation for years to come. So this is a must win race. And anyone who can, you can go to crawfordforwi.com and give directly to her campaign. You can volunteer and donate with the Democratic Party of Wisconsin. Wisdoms.org we are sending out door knockers day after day. We have virtual phone banks you can join from anywhere in the nation. We are still finding every way that we can to buy more ads and get in front of more people. This is an all hands on deck moment. If we win, we send a message of hope in a moment where the country desperately needs it.
Political Commentator
Ben Wickler, chair of the Wisconsin Democratic Party. Thanks for joining us Ben.
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The MeidasTouch Podcast: Exclusive Summary of "WI Dem Chair Says Elon Musk Committed State Felony"
Episode Information:
In this compelling episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, the Meiselas brothers delve deep into the contentious political landscape of Wisconsin. The focus centers on allegations against Elon Musk for committing a state felony by attempting to buy votes in the upcoming Wisconsin Supreme Court election. Joining the conversation is Ben Wickler, the Chair of the Wisconsin Democratic Party, providing expert insights into the ramifications of these actions on democracy and the state's key industries.
Timestamp: [06:18]
The episode opens with a shocking revelation: Elon Musk, renowned entrepreneur and Tesla CEO, is accused of attempting to buy votes in Wisconsin's Supreme Court election. This accusation stems from Musk's deleted tweet promising a million-dollar award to voters supporting the MAGA-aligned candidate, Brad Schimmel.
Notable Quote:
Ryan Reynolds: "Elon Musk deleted that tweet because he knows that that tweet was a crime. And it's still a crime in Wisconsin law." [06:18]
Musk's tweet, which offered substantial monetary incentives for voters to support Schimmel, directly violates Wisconsin's stringent anti-bribery laws. Reynolds emphasizes the severity of the offense, labeling it a blatant attempt to undermine democratic processes.
Timestamp: [05:25]
The discussion shifts to the economic repercussions of Musk's actions, particularly focusing on Wisconsin's dairy sector. Ben Wickler highlights the state's dependency on key trading partners—Mexico, Canada, and China—for dairy exports.
Notable Quote:
Ben Wickler: "About 40% of our dairy product exports by value went to those three countries in 2024. So this is a pretty important part of the dairy economy in the US and in Wisconsin." [05:25]
Unstable trade relations, exacerbated by political turmoil, pose a significant threat to the livelihoods of Wisconsin's dairy farmers. The uncertainty introduced by such high-stakes political maneuvers could disrupt trade flows and harm the industry’s growth.
Timestamp: [06:18] - [13:29]
The core of the episode revolves around the Supreme Court race between Brad Schimmel and Susan Crawford. Schimmel, a prominent MAGA supporter, is contrasted with Crawford, a seasoned public servant dedicated to upholding the law and democracy.
Brad Schimmel:
Susan Crawford:
Notable Quote:
Ryan Reynolds: "Brad Schimmel is a dyed in the wool MAGA warrior. And he wants to use the Supreme Court, as he puts it on the campaign trail, to be Trump's support network." [13:29]
Reynolds underscores Schimmel's deep ties to MAGA ideologies and his potential to manipulate the judicial system to favor political allies like Trump and Musk.
Timestamp: [07:59] - [11:20]
The conversation delves into the legalities surrounding Musk's actions. Under Wisconsin law, offering something of value to influence voting behavior is a felony.
Notable Quote:
Ryan Reynolds: "If you offer someone something that's worth at least $1, then that itself is a violation of the vote bribery, the election bribery statute in Wisconsin." [09:13]
Reynolds elaborates on the gravity of Musk's alleged actions, emphasizing that such behavior not only violates state laws but also erodes the foundational principles of democracy.
Timestamp: [10:42] - [16:38]
Ben Wickler articulates the broader implications of this incident on American democracy. He posits that allowing billionaires like Musk to influence elections through financial incentives sets a dangerous precedent, threatening the integrity of future elections and the rule of law.
Notable Quote:
Ryan Reynolds: "If the richest person in the world can go around buying votes in order to buy control of courts, then we have lost any semblance of the rule of law in the United States of America." [09:02]
Wickler calls for immediate condemnation and legal action against such practices to safeguard democratic integrity. He highlights the critical nature of the upcoming election, labeling it as a battleground for protecting the Constitution and ensuring that judicial appointments are free from undue influence.
Susan Crawford's Role: Crawford stands as a beacon of justice and equality, representing the antithesis of what Schimmel and his backers aim to achieve. Her commitment to public service and upholding the law positions her as the ideal candidate to fortify democratic institutions against corrupt influences.
Timestamp: [16:42] - [16:50]
The episode concludes with a powerful call to action for listeners to support Susan Crawford's campaign. By mobilizing grassroots efforts and encouraging voter participation, the MeidasTouch team aims to thwart attempts to manipulate judicial outcomes and uphold democratic values.
Notable Quote:
Ryan Reynolds: "This is an all hands on deck moment. If we win, we send a message of hope in a moment where the country desperately needs it." [16:38]
Listeners are urged to engage with Crawford's campaign through donations, volunteering, and spreading awareness to ensure that democracy prevails over corrupt practices.
This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast offers a thorough examination of the challenges facing Wisconsin's political landscape. By spotlighting Elon Musk's alleged misconduct and its implications, the podcast underscores the urgent need to protect democratic institutions from external influences. With insightful analysis and passionate advocacy, the Meiselas brothers provide listeners with a clear understanding of the stakes involved and the collective action required to preserve the integrity of elections and governance.
Stay Connected: For more in-depth discussions and updates, tune into the MeidasTouch Podcast every Tuesday and Friday morning, and catch live video sessions on the MeidasTouch YouTube channel every Monday and Thursday night at 8 PM ET/5 PM PT.