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Unknown Political Commentator 1
Total and utter mess. State regime media known as Fox was. I think California Governor Gavin Newsom literally broke Fox because the whole day yesterday you had like Fox propagandists like Jesse Waters saying, so what? Governor Newsom's calling Donald Trump a strong man. Isn't that a compliment? Strong man. That's a good thing, like being super strong. Watch what Fox propagandist Jesse Waters says here. Play this clip.
Unknown Political Commentator 2
So he's calling him a strong man. I think that's a compliment for Donald Trump. I hear strong man. The guy's in a bunker like Biden with a prerecorded video. This is an attack on democracy. They're really gonna go with a dictator hoax.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
They got more desperate than that. Then you had Jesse Waters go. You know what? Because of what Newsom said, I, I think Trump should go harder. He needs to break the. Break the back of these people, break the back of these ice resistancers. Here, play this clip.
Unknown Political Commentator 2
Maybe the crazy base on the left thinks it's good cuz they love to see the country burn. But it's not good. These illegals, Jessica, think they're living in Mexico, they're waving the Mexican flag. They don't like America. They love living in la, cuz LA is great. It's nicer than Mexico and you get free housing, free health care, free food. They don't even lay a finger on you. That's the problem here. They think they own the country. They don't respect the laws and they don't respect the law enforcement. I think Trump should go harder. He needs to break the back of this ice resistance and make sure everybody understands that this thing's not gonna slow down. You can't be held hostage in your own country by foreigners. Cuz that's what this is. It's an extortion attempt. Every time you try to enforce the law, we're gonna burn stuff. That's not how it works.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
And then I love this where you have the only pro democracy voice on Fox, Jessica Tarlov on that show the Five. She does a great job. I'm a big fan of Tarlov. And she goes, you do realize, Jesse, that Gavin Newsom is speaking to the majority of Americans. You saw the recent Quinnipiac poll which has Donald Trump at a negative 12 approval or a negative 11 approval on total approval of Trump. Negative 12, negative 11 on immigration, negative 16 on deportation. Watch Tarlov put him in his place.
Unknown Political Commentator 3
Gavin Newsom is speaking for a majority of Americans. Right before we came on air, there was a new Quinnipiac poll that was released. So Donald Trump, negative 12 on approval in general, negative 11 on immigration and negative 16 on deportations. He has taken his best issue and decimated it by making these deportations in a hasty way. It used to be go after the criminals. That's what we heard was going to happen. Now it's go to the nail salons, go to the job sites, go to birthday parties, go to immigration courts. There is now no right way to do it. There is no way to be part of the system, pay your taxes, make a better life for your family, and hopefully get citizenship. Stephen Miller is mad because they were deporting less people on a daily basis than Joe Biden was. So he went and he said, go to 711 and you go to Home Depot. And now Americans and illegals who, yes, they're here illegally, are living in fear of what the government is trying to do. And just one more thing, the GOP caucus, like Valadajo Gonzalez representatives, they know that this is bad. Valadajo saying, please prioritize removal of known criminals. Gonzalez, focus on convicted criminals, not farm laborers.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
Okay, so then Jesse Watters comes back and he's like, I'm not a moron. I'm not stupid, I'm not a moron. Play this clip.
Unknown Political Commentator 2
It just uses one of these little scissors. I'm very dexterous.
Unknown Political Commentator 3
How do you know what a cuticle is? Brett asked me to ask you.
Unknown Political Commentator 2
A cuticle is the part of the nail that meets the skin. Okay, I'm not a moron, Jessica, despite what I sound like.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
This is how you know California Governor Newsom and the majority of Americans, the pro democracy forces who have now woken up, how they're Winning this debate. So then Jesse Watters and then Fox, they have to pivot. What are we going to talk about? What do we talk about? Simone Biles. Let's talk about Simone Biles apologizing to Riley Gaines. This man, this stupid dispute that Fox has been manufacturing and talking about Simon. Simone Biles. That's what we talk about, right? Let's focus on Simone Biles. Like, there's about to be a major war in the Middle East. Donald Trump has destroyed American economy. But let's talk about Simone Biles here. This clip.
Unknown Political Commentator 2
First of all, is it ever a.
Unknown Political Commentator 4
Good idea to get in the middle of two women?
Unknown Political Commentator 2
No.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
No.
Unknown Political Commentator 2
That's why I just want to lay back and hope she trains for la. If we start messing with her head, she's mentally weak. Remember, the one time she. We have to make sure she meddles. Okay? So I'm going to lay off her, but I will say this. She pulled an Elon. Oh, I'm sorry for some of the things I said. Come on. You remember the days when PR teams would have to, like, walk back something that you said that was based on. Now they walk back when you say stuff woke. I love it. We are so back right now. This shows the power of Fox, too. This woman, Riley Gates, did the full kill meet, I think maybe six shows in 48 hours. And just put so much pressure on Simone.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
And by the way, that's what they were talking about a lot in the day. Like, let's focus on Simone Biles. You know what? Let's bring on Riley Gaines. They bring on freaking Riley. I don't even understand this dispute. Riley Gaines pretends that she's like a champion athlete. I think she came in like, fifth place. Simone Biles is a gold medalist over and over again. And then they bring on Riley Gaines. I guess this is the mentality of FOX to, like, attack the gold medalists and support people who are not like, first, second, I guess, or even third. And then like, you are an American he hero, Riley. You're an American hero. An American hero. And by the way, I don't even want to really learn about what this dispute is even about because there are ICE agents who are going into factories and schools and courthouses and restaurants and disappearing people. We have the Trump regime tariffing the world. We have Donald Trump holding a military parade for himself. I think there may be more abortion things than what Riley Gaines, whoever this even is, is mad about. But okay, sure, play this clip.
Unknown Political Commentator 2
Just wanted to say you're a hero for young women.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
Women. But Also for men, you're an American hero.
Unknown Political Commentator 2
Yes, that's right.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
And I'm glad to be on the couch with you today.
Riley Gaines
Well, thank you, Charles. That's very sweet. That's right.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
And definitely, I know we all grew up with posters of athletes on our wall and you'd be my athlete on.
Riley Gaines
The wall for sure.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
Continued champion. But okay, Riley, tell us, tell us how you really feel. I think a lot of people took issue with the fact. People took issue. There's real issues taking place. I don't think this is one of them. Play this clip. What do you think the message is now that she has shaped for these young women that used to look up to her?
Riley Gaines
I think the thing a lot of people took issue with is, of course, the body shaming portion of this where she's referring to me as someone with a male stature. First of all, I'm five foot five. I wouldn't say that's overly tall for a woman. Uh, maybe compared to someone who's 4 foot 8. That might seem like a giant, but to most women, that's, that's relatively standard. I'm about 130, 135 pounds. Not overly big. Yes, I'm muscular. I think that's part of being an athlete. And if anyone would understand that, you would imagine it would be Simone Biles.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
Because I'm telling you, Fox wants to distract and trap people to talk about like penises and vaginas. Like, oh, are you trans? Are you straight? Are you gay? Are you this? Are you that? Like, what are you even talking about? Like, these Fox hosts, they wait, they wake up every day and like, y' all are weird. If this is what you're thinking about every day, just treat human beings like humans. Treat people with dignity. Treat people the way you want to be treated and just stop with the bullying.
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Unknown Political Commentator 1
All right, so then Fox, then Fox talks about the Trump's disastrous trade deals because we're what, we're approaching the 90 deals in 90 days and he's done zero deals in 90 days. And then they did this embarrassing. Like not a deal. It's not an agreement. They call it a framework with China in London, right? So back in May the United States caved to China and reduced tariffs from 145% to 30%. Then China reduced its tariffs from 125% to 10%. And they called that a consensus. So then they said they were going to agree to have talks. So then they talked in London over the past few days and then they said we've agreed to a framework to implement the consensus. A framework to implement the consensus. And then watch Ingraham talk to Howard Lutnick about what this is and he's like we ate chicken, we ordered fried chicken. These are the most unserious excuses. I don't mean to name call like pathetic and dumb and disingenuous people. Here, play this clip.
Unknown Political Commentator 4
But I want you to know for lunch, for lunch we had British pizza and they ordered Kentucky Fried chicken.
Howard Lutnick
So, so Mr. Secretary, you, after spending, after spending this time with them, you trust them. You trust them.
Unknown Political Commentator 4
I think the way it works with the Chinese is you have to respect them. You have to respect them and it has to be a win, win. But the answer is when you send us magnets, we'll remove our countermeasures. Balanced. That's what Donald Trump said. That's what we're going to do. So I have confidence this is going to work. Otherwise they just want a plastic. We won't have magnets. They won't have plastic, they won't have planes.
Howard Lutnick
I have an idea. I know you have an idea. Why don't we make our own rare earth materials and that's going to require an industrial policy so we can compete against China so they don't have anything over us.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
And then I guess to her credit, and I want to give Laura Ingram credit for anything, she points out that China actually, from whatever this framework is, China outmaneuvered the United States because China basically said in six months we will have the right to stop sending you in the United States rare earth minerals and magnets and things like that. That's why the United States Trade representative and Commerce Secretary and Treasury Secretary rushed to China or rushed to cave again to China in London because American companies were about to run out of their rare earth minerals and they wouldn't be able to build things. So Ingraham's like, so why are you doing an expiration date in six months? Doesn't that mean China can just dangle this over your head? And then Howard Lutnick in his typical snake oil salesman way is like, no, no, no, that's actually a good thing. Here, play this clip.
Howard Lutnick
President announced early this morning that the China deal is done. He said, and I know he just got back from London, engaged in two days of negotiating with your counterparts. The Wall Street Journal and others are reporting that while that framework is in place and there's China supposedly going back to Xi about it, which seems a little bit odd, but, but, but I understand the rare earth. Ease up on the export of rare earth materials that we desperately need because we don't produce them here. That, that has an expiration date, Mr. Secretary, why is that expiration date there? Doesn't it give them, does it give them leverage over us?
Unknown Political Commentator 4
You got to realize. So what happened is they, they cut their tariffs, we cut our tariffs and then they started slow rolling. These magnets, what these magnets are, they're a teeny little product motor. It's like part of the starter. It's a small business for us, but everybody needs it. So when they started slow rolling us, what did we do? We, we stopped delivering them ethane. We give them all of their ethane. You know what ethane makes plastic. So good luck running an economy without plastic. We stopped sending them plane parts and 250 of their planes were on the ground. Right? Because they need our plane parts. Right. Marco Rubio said, I'm not taking your students anymore. They can just go home and order. All these kind of moves basically equaled the nonsense that they were doing to us. We got together, the President and President Trump and President Xi. They got on the phone. President Trump took a positive view. He said, we're Great friends, come on, let's just put this negative stuff behind us and let's make the world a better place.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
Then Howard Lutnick tries to act like the fact that there's 55% tariffs from China into the United States, which is a 55% tax on Americans, is a good thing. The China tariffs are 10%, meaning China's only taxing its people. 10%, because why are you taxing your people? And China has found export markets in Europe now, in Australia and Canada and elsewhere. And the United States has basically been cut out. But let's see what Howard Lutnick has to say here. Play this clip.
Unknown Political Commentator 4
So we said to him, I said, you want to stop fentanyl, just stop it the way you did magnets. You don't want to stop it. You can pay you 20%. So they're staying at 30%. Donald Trump in the first term, put 25% on. That's where they are, right? They charge us 10%. So we're in an excellent place making huge amounts of money, doing things correctly with China, reducing the trade deficit. And now we're going to get on to talking to them about doing more trade.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
Now bring on Laurie Chavez, Dreamer. And then she basically threatened, she basically says that the President's going to have talks with the Federal Reserve chairman about dropping interest rates. Okay, The President needs to stay the hell out of that stuff when he doesn't know what he's talking about. Play this clip.
Tulsi Gabbard
Are we not going to see a drop in interest rates this year?
Riley Gaines
Well, the President has been again, focused on how we'll have those conversations with the Fed and the Reserve. The Department of Labor doesn't really weigh into that. But usually when we see inflation go down, we're going to see interest rates go down. So I'm anxious to see the conversations that the President is to, going, going to continue to, to weigh in on, because what we want to see is more affordability in our housing market.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
And similarly, you had Howard Lutnick kind of make the same threat to the chairman of the Federal Reserve. Play this clip.
Unknown Political Commentator 4
It's unbelievable that, you know, Jerome Powell is just sitting around waiting. You know, the President calls him too late. You know, it's just too late. Powell, I mean, why, why hasn't he cut. I mean, you remember if he cut interest rates 1% and you've got Europe cutting like crazy, you realize that saves America 300 billion, billion a year. It's unbelievable how much we would save if he did his job and he cut interest rates. The economy is ready for it. It's easy. Inflation is low. Come on, he's got to do his job soon.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
Oh, then bring on Tulsi Gabbard who says, you know what, we're focusing our resources in the intelligence community and the FBI is. Who is funding these protests? Who are the people? There are ads being put up on Craigslist thousands of dollars a week ago to be involved in riots. There's not a conspiracy that these people will not spread, but they're always telling on themselves, like, this must be the stuff that they're actually doing. But watch Tulsi Gabbard play this clip.
Unknown Political Commentator 2
Can you tell us about the orchestration, the financing? And is Gavin, either, whether he knows it or not, actually siding with the cartels here?
Tulsi Gabbard
Whether he knows it or not, he is certainly, again, this is something that the Department of Justice and the FBI is looking into. Who is funding these protesters? We've seen, you know, the ads put up on Craigslist offering people thousands of dollars a week to go out and conduct these violent and dangerous riots in the streets of not only Los Angeles, but we saw earlier in Chicago and New York and other cities across the country.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
Then, by the way, did you see that Tulsi Gabbard posted this bizarre video of herself to spread Russia propaganda the other day? And she was like, if. She's basically implying that if we don't help out Russia and put more pressure on Ukraine, there will be nuclear annihilation, children's skin will peel off their faces. It will be a nuclear winter. I mean, it was the craziest video. I'll just show you a small portion of it here.
Tulsi Gabbard
Play this clip condemning survivors to agonizing deaths or lifelong suffering. A nuclear winter could follow with smoke and ash completely blocking the sun, plunging the world into darkness and cold, killing crops and starving billions. Acid rain would scar the earth, wiping out entire ecosystems. This isn't some made up science fiction story. This is the reality of what's at stake, what we are facing now.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
Oh, and then Jesse Waters logic. How does Trump provoke violence if he lives in Washington? That's what you're going with? How does Trump provoke violence if he lives in Washington?
Unknown Political Commentator 2
Play this clip and they can't even get their story straight. All right, first there was no riot. Then there was a riot. Then it was peaceful, Then it was mostly peaceful. Then Trump provoked the violence. Now how does Trump provoke violence if he lives in Washington? He wasn't out there doing anything. So the National Guard provoked the riots. Because I didn't see a single National Guardsman? Melt down a Waymo or loot a store? Not one.
Unknown Political Commentator 1
Well, there you have it, folks. Very strange stuff. But you see, Gavin Newsom literally broke Fox yesterday. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 5 million subscribers. Thanks for watching. Hit subscribe. We're almost at 5 million. Let's try to get there soon. Can't get enough Midas? Check out the Midas plus substack for ad. Free articles, reports, podcasts, daily recaps from Ron Filipkowski and more. Sign up for free now@midasplus.com.
The MeidasTouch Podcast Episode Summary: "Fox Gets Broken on Live TV as Trump Gets Outplayed"
Release Date: June 12, 2025
Introduction
In the latest episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosts Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas delve into a critical analysis of Fox News' recent performance on live television, particularly focusing on how the network's coverage of former President Donald Trump and Governor Gavin Newsom has backfired. The discussion is enriched with humorous brotherly banter, incisive political commentary, and a strong emphasis on the importance of democratic values.
Fox News' Handling of Governor Newsom and Donald Trump
The episode begins with the hosts dissecting Fox News' coverage of California Governor Gavin Newsom and his comments about Donald Trump. The conversation highlights how Newsom's remarks inadvertently undermine Fox's narrative.
Jesse Watters' Commentary: Unknown Political Commentator 1 criticizes Fox propagandist Jesse Watters for interpreting Newsom's description of Trump as a "strong man" positively. Watters states at [01:29], "So he's calling him a strong man. I think that's a compliment for Donald Trump."
Counterarguments by Jessica Tarlov: The discussion shifts to Jessica Tarlov's rebuttal on Fox's "The Five," where she emphasizes that Newsom's statements resonate with the majority of Americans. Unknown Political Commentator 1 notes, "Jessica Tarlov puts him in his place" at [02:45].
Poll Insights: Unknown Political Commentator 3 references a Quinnipiac poll showing Trump's declining approval ratings: "Donald Trump, negative 12 on approval in general, negative 11 on immigration and negative 16 on deportations" ([03:18]). This data underscores the disconnect between Fox's support for Trump and the broader public opinion.
Immigration Policies and GOP Responses
The hosts critique Fox's stance on immigration, highlighting inconsistencies and the network's failure to address core issues effectively.
Critique of Jesse Watters: Unknown Political Commentator 2 sarcastically remarks, "Maybe the crazy base on the left thinks it's good cuz they love to see the country burn," referring to the network's polarization tactics ([02:01]).
GOP Caucus Position: The conversation mentions GOP members like Valadajo Gonzalez advocating for prioritizing the removal of known criminals over broader deportations. Unknown Political Commentator 3 states, "Valadajo Gonzalez representatives, they know that this is bad" ([03:18]).
Distracting Coverage: Simone Biles vs. Critical Issues
In a strategic pivot, Fox News seemingly shifts focus from pressing political matters to more sensational topics involving public figures like Olympian Simone Biles.
Simone Biles Apology Segment: The hosts describe how Fox diverts attention from significant issues by highlighting Simone Biles' apology to Riley Gaines, an event they deem trivial compared to looming national concerns like the Middle East conflicts and economic downturns. Unknown Political Commentator 1 criticizes this shift: "Let's talk about Simone Biles here" ([04:53]).
Riley Gaines' Interview: During the segment, Riley Gaines defends herself against body-shaming accusations by stating, "I'm muscular. I think that's part of being an athlete" ([08:06]), which the hosts interpret as Fox's attempt to distract viewers from more substantial debates.
Trade Deals with China: A Foxworthy Fiasco
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Fox News' portrayal of former President Trump's trade negotiations with China, which the hosts argue have been mishandled and underreported.
Howard Lutnick's Statements: Clips of Howard Lutnick discussing the so-called "framework to implement the consensus" between the US and China are scrutinized. Unknown Political Commentator 1 mocks Lutnick's remarks: "We ate chicken, we ordered fried chicken" ([11:33]).
China's Trade Tactics: The hosts argue that China has outmaneuvered the US by ensuring they can halt the export of rare earth minerals and magnets, crucial for American industries. Unknown Political Commentator 1 explains, "China outmaneuvered the United States because China basically said in six months we will have the right to stop sending you in the United States rare earth minerals" ([12:27]).
Tariff Criticism: The podcast criticizes the high tariffs imposed by the Trump administration, labeling them as detrimental to American consumers who face a 55% tax on goods, while China's tariffs remain at a lower 10%. Unknown Political Commentator 1 states, "China has found export markets in Europe now, in Australia and Canada and elsewhere. And the United States has basically been cut out" ([13:21]).
Lutnick's Defense: Despite these critiques, Howard Lutnick defends the trade deals by suggesting that cutting US tariffs would harm American industries. Unknown Political Commentator 1 counters Lutnick's optimism by highlighting the ongoing trade imbalances and loss of export markets ([15:33]).
Economic Policies and Interest Rates
The episode transitions to discussing Fox's coverage of economic policies, particularly interest rates, and the involvement of political figures like Tulsi Gabbard.
President's Influence on the Federal Reserve: Clips featuring Tulsi Gabbard expressing concerns over the President's potential influence on Federal Reserve decisions are analyzed. Unknown Political Commentator 1 mocks the notion, stating, "The President needs to stay the hell out of that stuff when he doesn't know what he's talking about" ([16:41]).
Howard Lutnick's Threats: Unknown Political Commentator 4 voices frustration over Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell's inaction on cutting interest rates, suggesting political pressure: "Why hasn't he cut. I mean, you remember if he cut interest rates 1% and you've got Europe cutting like crazy" ([16:47]).
Tulsi Gabbard's Assertions: Tulsi Gabbard accuses the Department of Justice and FBI of being involved in orchestrating and financing protests, further complicating the political landscape. Unknown Political Commentator 1 highlights her claims: "The Department of Justice and the FBI is looking into" ([17:53]).
Russian Propaganda Allegations: The hosts criticize Tulsi Gabbard for promoting what they perceive as Russian propaganda, particularly concerning nuclear threats. Unknown Political Commentator 1 remarks, "She was like, if we don't help out Russia... there will be nuclear annihilation" ([18:55]).
Conclusion and Final Remarks
Wrapping up the episode, the hosts reiterate their criticism of Fox News' broadcasting strategies, emphasizing how the network's handling of current events undermines its credibility and fails to engage with the electorate meaningfully. They encourage listeners to stay informed and support democratic principles amidst what they describe as Fox's declining journalistic standards.
Unknown Political Commentator 1 concludes, "Gavin Newsom literally broke Fox yesterday," underscoring the perceived failure of Fox News to maintain its influence and authority in the current political climate ([19:37]).
Key Takeaways
Fox News' Credibility at Risk: The podcast asserts that Fox News' attempts to support Trump and undermine Democratic figures like Gavin Newsom have backfired, leading to a loss of credibility.
Distracting from Important Issues: By focusing on sensational stories involving celebrities, Fox is accused of diverting attention from pressing national and international concerns.
Ineffective Trade Negotiations: The critique of Trump's trade deals with China highlights a broader issue of ineffective economic policies that disadvantage American industries and consumers.
Political Manipulation of Economics: The discussion on interest rates and Federal Reserve interventions points to concerns over political interference in crucial economic decisions.
Questionable Alliances and Propaganda: Allegations against figures like Tulsi Gabbard suggest a landscape where political narratives may be influenced by external and potentially malign factors.
Notable Quotes
Unknown Political Commentator 1 at [01:29]: "So he's calling him a strong man. I think that's a compliment for Donald Trump."
Unknown Political Commentator 3 at [03:18]: "Donald Trump, negative 12 on approval in general, negative 11 on immigration and negative 16 on deportations."
Unknown Political Commentator 1 at [04:53]: "Let's talk about Simone Biles here."
Unknown Political Commentator 1 at [16:41]: "The President needs to stay the hell out of that stuff when he doesn't know what he's talking about."
Unknown Political Commentator 1 at [19:37]: "Gavin Newsom literally broke Fox yesterday."
Conclusion
This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast offers a critical lens on Fox News' recent broadcasting strategies, illustrating how the network's attempts to manipulate political narratives are falling short in the face of public opinion and substantive policy critique. Through incisive commentary and the dynamic interplay of the Meiselas brothers, listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of the current media-political landscape and its implications for democracy.