The MeidasTouch Podcast

Episode: Fox News Delivers Fatal Blow to Trump as He Crashes Out

Date: November 20, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode features the Meiselas brothers—Ben, Brett, and Jordy—digging into what they describe as a seismic shift in the mainstream conservative media: Fox News, typically an ally of Donald Trump, is forced to publicly confront devastating polling numbers for the former President. The brothers break down Fox’s reluctant coverage of negative Trump polls, discuss growing public support for the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), expose what they see as MAGA Republican misinformation, and highlight key moments of on-air tension and pushback on Fox. The show blends sharp political analysis, signature humor, and caustic critique of both Trump and Fox News.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fox News Forced to Confront Catastrophic Trump Polls

• [00:35] - [05:15]
  • The episode opens with Ben highlighting Fox News’s struggle to report its own internal polls, which are notably bad for Trump.
  • Fox’s host Bret Baier awkwardly admits to poor numbers on Trump’s approval and the state of the economy but avoids diving into the full, damning details.
  • Ben asserts, “Donald Trump's approval is the worst in modern presidential history. And on every single category, Donald Trump is essentially below water.” [01:15]
  • Fox pivots to cite a Reuters poll, with hosts downplaying Trump’s 38% approval—the lowest of his career.

Notable Quote:

“The worst ever. Donald Trump, the biggest loser ever. The least popular ever. Despised by the American people and the world hates you, Donald.” — Ben Meiselas [04:45]

2. Breakdown of Fox Poll Results

• [05:15] - [08:00]

  • Ben details each polling category:
    • Health care: 64% disapprove of Trump’s performance
    • Tariffs: 63% disapprove
    • Economy: 61% disapprove
    • Foreign Policy: 55% disapprove
    • Immigration: 53% disapprove
  • Even on immigration, Trump’s supposed strong suit, he is underwater.

• Ben continues, “That's supposed to be your biggest issue. On foreign policy, 55% disapprove.”

3. Obamacare’s Revived Popularity

• [08:00] - [11:00]
  • The brothers highlight a key Fox poll finding: Obamacare is at +15 favorability, contrary to longstanding right-wing narratives.
  • Support among key demographics: Black Americans (+51), Age 18-34 (+33), Moderates (+28), Latinos (+22), Women (+18).
  • Ben: “Just go through every category and everybody likes Obamacare, views it favorably. Are there things to criticize about it? Let’s be clear. Absolutely. That's life. But we fix problems…That's what MAGA and Trump does—because his whole life he’s been a destroyer, a bankrupter, a fraud, a felon, a sexual abuser. That’s who Trump has always been.” [10:35]

4. MAGA Economic Denial and Fox Deflections

• [11:00] - [14:45]
  • Trump supporters and Fox hosts try to spin economic numbers and push misinformation about Trump's business acumen and international deal-making.
  • Ben satirizes, “Donald Trump stuffing slot gravy spout Santa's coal hole. They're only naughty words if you wipe.” [11:30]
  • Discussion turns to the mythologizing of Trump's economic prowess, referencing Larry Kudlow and Rep. Jim Jordan's hyperbolic claims:
    • “Mr. Trump says it could be as high as 20 trillion…” [13:40]

Memorable Moment:

“These people are so pathetic. Here, watch this.” — Ben Meiselas [13:05]

5. Real Pushback on Fox: Jason Crow vs. Fox Host

• [12:15] - [13:02]
  • Ben spotlights Congressman Jason Crow pushing back on Fox against attempts to disparage the military and shift the narrative toward MAGA talking points.
  • Crow: “You're wrong. You're 100% wrong. I didn't disparage them...I have the most deep respect for everyone who serves in the military…” [12:15]

6. Fox’s Handling of Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell

• [14:45] - [15:56]
  • Fox hosts attempt to direct blame for the Epstein scandal away from Trump, with Jesse Watters and Jessica Tarlov sparring on air.
  • Tarlov: “Well, they definitely already are.” [15:55]
  • Ben applauds Tarlov for not letting the story get spun.

7. Melania Trump’s Awkward Appearance

• [16:28] - [16:32]
  • The show mocks Fox for breaking into coverage to air Melania Trump’s unimpressive high school visit.
  • “Great speech there, Melania. Great, great speech, Melania. So utterly pathetic.” — Ben Meiselas [16:29]

8. Brooke Rollins on SNAP and Fox’s War on the Vulnerable

• [17:43] - [19:10]
  • Brooke Rollins touts alleged SNAP fraud and the necessity of new restrictions, a segment the brothers frame as an attack on America’s most vulnerable.
  • Rollins: “We have been…collecting the data…186,000 dead people receiving benefits…” [18:00]
  • Ben: “...that’s what Americans really want. They want us to attack the most vulnerable while Donald Trump's out there bragging about his business deals with Saudi Arabia…You know, typical American stuff…” [17:10]

Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• Ben Meiselas [01:15]:
  “Donald Trump's approval is the worst in modern presidential history. And on every single category, Donald Trump is essentially below water.”

• Ben Meiselas [04:45]:
  “The worst ever. Donald Trump, the biggest loser ever. The least popular ever. Despised by the American people and the world hates you, Donald.”

• Ben Meiselas [10:35]:
  “Just go through every category and everybody likes Obamacare, views it favorably...That’s who Trump has always been.”

• Ben Meiselas [13:05]:
  “These people are so pathetic. Here, watch this.”

• Ben Meiselas [16:29]:
  “Great speech there, Melania. Great, great speech, Melania. So utterly pathetic.”

Sharp On-Air Exchanges:

• Jason Crow [12:15]:
  “You're wrong. You're 100% wrong. I didn't disparage them in any way. In fact, I give them enormous credit.”

• Jessica Tarlov [15:55]:
  “Well, they definitely already are.” (on powerful people being embarrassed by the Epstein scandal)

Critical Analysis & Tone

• The episode is intensely critical of both Fox News and Trump, eschewing subtlety for unfiltered condemnation shot through with humor and sarcasm.
• The brothers’ camaraderie and banter soften the sharp edges of their critique, making the breakdown of poll data and political spin both entertaining and accessible.

Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:35] — Fox News’s reluctant presentation of damning poll data
• [04:25] — Fox pivots to less damaging Reuters poll
• [05:15] — Deep dive into Fox polling data categories
• [08:00] — Major support for Obamacare across U.S. demographics
• [12:15] — Rep. Jason Crow defends the military live on Fox
• [13:05] — Satirical take on MAGA economic boasts
• [14:45] — Fox’s coverage of Epstein & Maxwell, Tarlov’s pushback
• [16:29] — Melania Trump’s awkward school appearance spotlighted
• [17:43] — Brooke Rollins and Fox’s take on SNAP/food assistance

Summary

This episode captures Fox News’s forced reckoning with the reality of Trump’s crumbling public support, contrasts Democratic and MAGA approaches to policy, and lampoons the desperate attempts to spin or obscure negative news about Trump. The Meiselas brothers lay out the poll numbers in detail, expose efforts to distract or misinform viewers, and emphasize how even Fox’s own data shows deep national dissatisfaction with Trump-era priorities. The result is both a scathing indictment and an entertaining, informative guide through one of the week’s biggest political media stories.