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Unknown Host 1
State regime media known as Fox is in a collapse mode. They're panicking. They don't know what to do because Trump's main issue, immigration, the American people, by and large, disapprove of. Now, poll after poll, including the Fox poll, this is the New York Times Sienna poll, show the majority of Americans disapprove of Donald Trump on immigration. Now, Americans disapprove of Donald Trump on every single issue. And his approvals, the lowest of any modern president at this point, under 100 days by far. But on that issue of immigration, that has Fox in panic mode. What are they going to do? So Fox strategize and their plan was just to go extra gutter, extra disgusting. So Greg Gutfeld, one of the Fox hosts, basically accuses the judge, Hannah Dugan, who Trumps FBI arrested and charged with obstruction of justice, a Milwaukee County Circuit Court judge. The feds busted into her courthouse, into her courtroom and arrested her. I'll talk a little bit more about in a second. But now the Fox hosts are accusing her of, to use Gret Gutfeld's words, banging, having sex with immigrants. That's how they're going with it. That's how they're doing this on Fox right now. Here, play the clip. So you can see for yourself.
Shannon Bream
This isn't even about political ideology or even immigration. We're seeing judges who clearly lean towards a specific side. They're called activist judges, but that's a contradiction. Judges are not activists. They are judges. Maybe this judge has a backstory with this illegal. Could it be it's not just the gavel that she's banging? Shannon, Uh, I want.
Unknown Host 1
Now, folks, I'm doing a lot of other takes on this situation involving Judge Hannah Dugan. Donald Trump posted about it. Pam Bondi, Trump's Attorney general, posted about it. FBI Director Cash Patel posted, then deleted, then posted back up. This is horrific, folks. To have a state court judge in Milwaukee county, that's her courtroom. For the feds to try to launch an operation to arrest a migrant inside her courtroom who showed up for got his court date before the judge. And all Judge Dugan said is like, you want to arrest the guy, go. You could arrest him outside at his home somewhere else. This is my courtroom. I'm trying to administer justice right now. Stop interfering. You're obstructing with my court proceeding. It would be unheard of before this Trump regime to send the feds to launch sting operations inside judicial proceedings, state court proceedings, where the state judge is trying to hold an individual accountable under state law. And here's Pam Bondi, who's basically at this point, just another Fox host. I mean, her title is Attorney General, but she doesn't really even do that. She just is a host of Fox every day. Here's what she says yesterday. Play this clip.
Pam Bondi
Madam, what's happened to our judiciary is beyond me. Yeah.
Greg Gutfeld
So when the American public hears this and they think these were once upstanding people in their communities and their professions and they put it all on the line for this, have you dug into their motive? Like, what inspired them to carry out these acts and harbor criminals?
Pam Bondi
They're deranged is all I can think of. I cannot believe. I think some of these judges think they are beyond and above the law, and they are not. And we're sending a very strong message today. If you are harboring a fugitive, we don't care who you are. If you are helping hide one, if you are giving a TDA member guns, anyone who is illegally in this country, we will come after you and we will prosecute you. We will find you.
Unknown Host 1
If I could just. And again, it's the lawlessness of this administration. I want you to think about it like this, though. Now, this specific migrant in Milwaukee county, he showed up for his court hearing. The judge, state court judge, was administering justice. Whether that individual would go to jail. Individual was charged with, I think domestic violence. He showed up for his court hearing. If the Trump regime is going to do stings in state courthouses, you think that people are going to show up for their court hearings in the future? No. You're going to cause more crime by doing it this way. Stop interfering with state court proceedings. And as the judge said, as Dugan said, you want to arrest him, go arrest him at the house somewhere else. This is my courthouse. What are you doing here? Here's Pam Bondi again. Play this clip.
Greg Gutfeld
These judges trying to obstruct your efforts to make this country safer. What is your message to them?
Pam Bondi
We are going to prosecute you and we are prosecuting you. I found out about this the day it happened. We could not believe actually that a judge really did that. We looked into the facts in great depth. That's her picture up on the screen. Hannah Dugan, who is now in custody. You cannot obstruct a criminal case. And really shame on her. It was a domestic violence case of all cases, and she's protecting a criminal defendant over victims of crime.
Jessica Tarlov
In fact, she just.
Unknown Host 1
And I think Jessica Tarlov put the argument into the right context here during the show. The Five play this clip now you're.
Will Cain
Talking about this woman, a county judge. And when Pam Bondi comes out there and says, we will come after you and we will prosecute you, we will find you, that is meant to have a chilling effect. They didn't need to bringing the law again, I apologize.
Shannon Bream
Adults have to do the adult job and it's not going to be possible.
Will Cain
Job is first of all, not announcing this on social media, having to take it down and then putting it back up. The adult thing to do would be to have called her in and have her come in and have a conversation about. They didn't need to publicly arrest this woman. They wanted to make. Julia, I have the famous amazing to make a show of it. Somebody is for the camera.
Unknown Guest 1
Somebody suits.
Unknown Host 1
Here she is again. Play this clip right here.
Will Cain
But yes, she. In our FOX News polling, you see an approval, positive approval for the president on border security, but he's underwater in terms of handling immigration. And now that's true across the board on all the major polls. We've seen it in Reuters, you see it in Quinnipiac, you see it in the YouGov poll. Americans have only seen three months of what this administration is doing in terms of immigration, and they went from approving it 10 plus points to a strong disapproval. And that's because it feels completely lawless. And Greg says these are activist judges. The Supreme Court, a conservative court that Donald Trump himself was able to pack, is not an activist judge. I'm talking about her. No, I'm talking, but it's about all of them. He's gone against the Supreme Court, but that he's gone against the 4th Circuit. 4th Circuit, a Reagan appointee who wrote that decision.
Unknown Host 1
But on Fox, they have these legal analysts like this guy John Turley, like the worst law professor ever. And he's out there saying, of course you should be able to arrest state court judges. You can't use your office to shield somebody from law enforcement. Hey, Turley, the judge, the state court judge wasn't trying to shield anybody. She was trying to go about her duty as a state court judge and going about proceedings without having our courtroom raided by the feds while she's under her judicial immunity and while she's under her judicial duties. Here, play this clip. You can't use your office to shield someone from law enforcement and you become.
Pam Bondi
Part obviously of the law breaking.
Will Cain
Yeah, it seems like a lot of hubris involved to think that you can get away with something like that. Professor Turley, thank you so much for giving up your Friday night to be Here.
Unknown Host 2
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Unknown Host 1
So you got this guy on Fox right here who's trying to basically take the role of Jesse Waters. So he's, like, auditioning because Jesse Waters was off for the day. And this guy's like, ah, you know what? I don't like due process. I'm an American. I don't like due process. And then he uses the name. This is what they always do. They use the name of people who have died, who have been murdered by migrants, to basically say, that's why we need to throw out due process. What due process did the victim get? They didn't get due process.
Unknown Guest 1
With all due respect, this whole argument about these Venezuelan gang members or people who say they aren't in a gang, but they've got MS.13 in code on their knuckles to say that. To say that, well, whatever it is. We've also sat here and argued against using tattoos to say if someone's a member of MS.13. So anyone who has a tie to MS.13 or the government suspects of it. If you tell me that they deserve due process, I tell you that I know Lake and Riley's dad, and I would go out and kick every one of them off this, out of this country just because of Lake and Riley. So when Frederica Wilson said something like, more people are getting rolled up because of Lake and Rally, you're damn right they are. Because this whole country saw what happened to Lake and Rally and we said, hell, no.
Unknown Host 1
So is your point that the United States government should be, like, a murderer and not give people due process? You know, the purpose of due process is the idea that our government is above that, that people have certain presumptions of innocence and that the government needs to show evidence. Because the government is not supposed to be barbaric. The government is not supposed to be a murderer. The government is supposed to evaluate justice through a legal prism. The fact that you even have to lecture these people on it, that they're beyond due process. Right? Or they just Go right past due process to me, tells you everything you need to know. Hat tip right here to our friend Democratic Congress member Jake Alkin Kloss, who went on one of these Fox shows, the Will Cain show, and he schooled the host, Will Cain.
Jessica Tarlov
Watch this, play this clip three years from now. And instead of a Republican president, it's a Democrat president. And this Democratic president says, you know this journalist, Will Cain, man, he's really irritating me. And so I am going to lock him up and I'm going to accuse him of sedition and libel. And you call your lawyer and you say, whoa, I want to get a hearing in front of a judge. And the Democratic president says, nope, Will Kaine is not legally a citizen because he committed crimes in the past that deprive him of due process and you don't get a hearing. What I am telling you is that unless we ensure that everybody in this country gets to stand in front of a judge, everybody in this country cannot be confident that they will be able to stand in front of a judge when their political opponents get power.
Unknown Guest 2
Congressman, I'm confident that your hypothetical wouldn't even play out under a Democrat president and I'm confident that you don't believe that either. I'm confident that you don't believe that.
Jessica Tarlov
This president will just said, this president, this president just said he wants to apply his extradition of immigrants to El Salvador next to American citizens. Do you understand where this leads? The slippery slope that it takes us to? Until somebody gets to stand in front of a judge, we don't know whether they're illegal. We don't know what crimes they have been convicted of. The point is, is that politicians don't get to be judge, jury and executioner. They have to go through the courts of law.
Unknown Guest 2
Congressman, I'm well aware now of what you're referencing. I'm not always aware of every single thing uttered from the President of the United States mouth. But I am well aware of the statement he issued from the Oval Office about possibly expanding the El Salvadorian deportations to homegrown criminals. He did say very clearly in that clip we'd have to obey the law not once but twice. Homegrown criminals, but we'd have to obey the law. The reason I stick on that detail, Congressman, is that I feel like your party, even in your hypothetical that you just gave to me is doing, is playing into fear mongering. You're trying to convince the American citizen that they are going to be in the same situation as an illegal immigrant who's accused of being a member of Ms. 13, Domestic Violence and human smuggling. And it's simply not realistic. In fact, it's fear mongering to suggest to the American people that somehow deporting Kilmar Brego Garcia means next they're going to deport Will Kain.
Jessica Tarlov
Yeah, I think fear mongering is when the president tries to blame Canada for our problems. Right? I'm not fear mongering. I am defending the core principle of freedom, freedom from fear. And again, that means an individual should be able to walk to a CVS and buy some shaving cream without having to ask the clerk to unlock it for them. We absolutely need to address public safety and open air drug use and homelessness in our downtowns because people should be able to go around their daily life and have that freedom. But it also means that they are free from government intruding upon their personal liberty. That is a thousand year old tradition of the Anglo Saxon legal code.
Unknown Host 1
I thought here was an interesting moment too where on the Fox Business show the Varney Show, Varney asked the MAGA Republican congresswoman from Michigan, Lisa McClain. All right, Lisa, has Trump done any deals like has he brought manufacturing to your district? Are you aware of that? She's like, no, but he's brought back hope. We feel hope now. Hope. Play this clip. No, you feel like you're in a cult is what it feels. Here, play this clip.
Jessica Tarlov
Has the President's policies thus far brought any new manufacturing jobs to your district?
Lisa McClain
Yeah, look, we have almost $5 trillion. I think it's closer to 6 now of investment that President Trump has brought back to the United States. Apple is putting in a new facility that is going to affect our district. But the number one thing that the President is bringing to our state and specifically my district is hope. We haven't had hope in so long. Look, Michigan ranks third behind California in New York for manufacturing jobs lost. The President is trying to level the playing field and trying to be a job creator for manufacturing jobs that is critical for our state in my community.
Unknown Host 1
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Shannon Bream
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The MeidasTouch Podcast: "Fox News in Panic Mode as Trump Plans Backfire" – Detailed Summary
Release Date: April 26, 2025
In this episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosts Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas delve into the tumultuous relationship between Fox News and former President Donald Trump, particularly focusing on the fallout surrounding Trump's immigration policies. Titled "Fox News in Panic Mode as Trump Plans Backfire," the episode unpacks the escalating tensions within Fox News as Trump's strategies face public disapproval, especially concerning immigration. The discussion is enriched with incisive commentary, sharp brotherly banter, and insightful analysis, all underscored by notable quotes from various speakers.
The episode opens with a critical examination of Fox News' current state, described by an unnamed host at [00:00] as being in "collapse mode" due to Trump's faltering position on immigration. The hosts highlight multiple polls, including those from Fox itself and the New York Times’ Sienna Poll, indicating a significant decline in public approval of Trump’s immigration policies.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Unknown Host 1 [00:00]: "Fox is in a collapse mode. They’re panicking. They don’t know what to do because Trump’s main issue, immigration, the American people, by and large, disapprove of."
A significant portion of the episode focuses on the arrest of Judge Hannah Dugan by the FBI, a move that has ignited controversy and debate about judicial immunity and federal overreach.
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Notable Quotes:
Shannon Bream [01:29]: "Madam, what’s happened to our judiciary is beyond me."
Pam Bondi [03:28]: "We are going to prosecute you and we are prosecuting you. I found out about this the day it happened."
The conversation shifts to a broader discussion on due process and the potential for its erosion under political pressures, especially from the Trump administration.
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
Jessica Tarlov [10:22]: "Until somebody gets to stand in front of a judge, we don’t know whether they’re illegal."
Jessica Tarlov [12:45]: "Politicians don’t get to be judge, jury, and executioner. They have to go through the courts of law."
The hosts critique Fox News personalities for their handling of legal and political issues, suggesting that their approach is more performative than substantive.
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
Greg Gutfeld [04:05]: "These judges trying to obstruct your efforts to make this country safer. What is your message to them?"
Will Cain [05:16]: "If you use your office to shield someone from law enforcement, you become..."
The episode explores how Fox News' aggressive stance may backfire, potentially eroding public trust not only in the network but also in the broader media landscape and judicial system.
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
Unknown Host 1 [08:49]: "What due process did the victim get? They didn’t get due process."
Jessica Tarlov [13:20]: "We absolutely need to address public safety... But it also means that they are free from government intruding upon their personal liberty."
In wrapping up the discussion, the Meiselas brothers reaffirm their commitment to supporting democracy and advocating for justice over partisan agendas. They emphasize the importance of holding media accountable and ensuring that legal processes remain insulated from political interference.
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Shannon Bream [14:44]: "It."
Note: The episode concludes with typical podcast sign-offs and promotional segments, which have been excluded from this summary as per guidelines.
"The MeidasTouch Podcast" episode titled "Fox News in Panic Mode as Trump Plans Backfire" provides a robust analysis of the fraught dynamics between Fox News and Donald Trump's administration, particularly regarding immigration policies and judicial integrity. Through incisive dialogue, the Meiselas brothers and their guests dissect the implications of Fox News' shifting strategies, the potential undermining of due process, and the broader effects on American democracy. The episode serves as a critical commentary on the intertwining of media power, political maneuvering, and the sanctity of the legal system, urging listeners to remain vigilant in defending democratic principles.