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Ben
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Brett
Is available for pre order today wherever books are sold. State regime media known as Fox was in free fall yesterday as Donald Trump continued to collapse the market, collapse the economy, and as China and their leaders were mocking him. You had Caroline Levitt, Donald Trump's chief propagandist, going on Fox and literally begging China to give Donald Trump a call and then saying, look, American consumers are the best. China, just give us a call, will you? Here, play this clip.
Ben
And China knows that too, Sean. And as President Trump directed me to say yesterday, it remains true. Tonight the ball is in China's court. They need to do business with the United States. They need the best thing on the face of the planet and that is the American consumer. And we have. We are the best place in the world to do business. The rest of the world knows that. And that's why Japan was here today.
Brett
To negotiate A trade deal that's supposed to be strength. That looks like total weakness to me. I thought you had the cards, Donald. I thought you had the cards. By the way, China is mocking Donald Trump for saying they don't have the cards. Then Caroline Levitt kind of glitches here where she's like, I don't have any updates because I haven't spoke with Scott Besant, the Treasury secretary. Then she goes, I just spoke with the treasury secretary, Scott Bessant. It's like, what in the world are you talking about, Caroline? Play this clip.
Ben
I don't have an update for you. I actually just left a dinner with the president and Patty Morin and some great faith leaders in celebration of Holy Week. So I haven't checked in with our secretary of treasury or Jameson Greer, our United States trade ambassador yet. However, I did run into the secretary of treasury and he told me the meetings were productive and they were moving along and they were here.
Brett
Then Donald Trump was on Fox and he makes this very strange, bizarre and outright disgusting comment about the Holocaust. And he said some people were treated good. Here. Play this clip.
Ben
You know, the Holocaust, as bad as it was, there were a lot of stories where people got helped. Yeah. They said there was zero. He said all we got was slapped. We didn't get helped. We got slapped. Yeah.
Brett
The hell is he even talking about? Then you have Pam Bondi as Aaron Rupert says, who grotesquely claiming Abrego Garcia's wife and children who are American citizens are better off without the husband and the dad here. They should be thankful to the Trump regime for putting him in the concentration camp in El Salvador. This is what Attorney General Pam Bondi says. Play this clip.
Ben
Maryland is safer because he is gone. And that woman that he is married to and that child he had with her, they are safer tonight because he is out of our country and sitting in El Salvador where he belongs.
Brett
And then the Trump regime had this guy on Fox who kind of glitched yesterday when he was talking about whether or not we were going to experience a recession, which most economists believe we're heading into a recession, a great recession or even worse. Watch this Trump regime official glitch on live tv. Play this clip. And so financial markets are forward looking. They'll start to realize that CEOs are forward looking. They'll start to realize that also.
Ben
So is there volatility in the short run?
Brett
Absolutely.
Ben
Is a recession possible? Well, you know, it's not my base.
Brett
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Ben
El Salvador. He is sitting in a prison. And every American should be thanking President Trump tonight. And every liberal journalist who has called him a Maryland man and saying he was rightfully in this country should be apologizing tonight to President Trump.
Brett
Can we just cut to the chase right here? Here's the file for Abrego Garcia. You see, it says no criminal history, no criminal charge. So you could keep defaming this guy. Look, I want to give the facts. One of the facts were in 2019, a cop who was disgraced who ended up pleading guilty to exchanging favors for, like, a sex worker and giving private data and, like, pled guilty. This was an individual who claimed he had a confidential informant who told him that Abrego was a gang member from the Westerners in Long island, which Abrego Garcia never lived in Long island, so it never made sense. That's when they say, oh, he was a gang member. He was a gang member. It was based on a disgraced cop who ended up, like, pleading guilty to, like, giving, like Confidential information to, like, a sex worker for favors. That's who that comes from, by the way. And then, okay, if ultimately you say that he is a bad guy, then do. Do due process. And then you can deport him. Like the 2019 judge said, just not to El Salvador. He's going to be killed. We're a nation of law and order. You go through a process, you can have an outcome. You put forward evidence. That's the way our system works. So what else did the state regime media want to do yesterday? Here, their hosts, one of them, Earhart Earnhardt. She's married to Hannity. She was this, like, other host, was, like, eating bananas off the floor. And then they talked about how Pete Hegseth, now the defense secretary, when he worked at Fox, he would take cream cheese bagels off the floor and smear it on his face and then eat dirty bagels. This is what they talk about in Fox, eating dirty bagels. Play this clip.
Ben
We're saying survive in the world because there's germs everywhere. Joe, let's put it to the test, shall we? Oh, no. Banana from the green room. There it goes. Oh, now you're gonna eat it. 2, 3, 4. No, but that is. That's. Why are you gonna eat it? There is so much junk on this. No, please.
Brett
You work her every day.
Ben
Don't they miss out? I know, but look, the bottom of our shoes. Walk around New York City. No. Okay, should we go ahead and call out sick form next week? Yeah, let me get an ostrich. See, that is the wrong consistency. I'm gonna be really honest. I'll tell you. I think I'm gonna go now. This guy is definitely auditioning for the Pete Hegseth. Pete Hegseth would drop. Okay. Pete Heg. Seth would have a bagel with cream cheese. He would drop it. It would land upside down, the cream cheese on the floor, and he would pick it up. I'm like, wait, is there any hair on there? Oh, no, it was so gross. And he would just pop it in his mouth. There's also a rumor that Pete did not wash his hands. He said that one time on air. Really? In every scenario, he would wash his hands. He's like an army guy, you know, he's tough.
Brett
Tough is one thing, but I bet you thought that, like, come on, Ben. What do you mean? He eats dirty bagels off the floor? That's. Yes, that's what they do at Fox, and that's what they're talking about. I don't know. I could think about some other important things that we should be talking about today. But that's the weird dystopian world that Fox creates. It's all a game to them in a gross game at it as well. Here Donald Trump as part of this Fox interview, talks about, I watch people in the Capitol. Our people don't carry ropes on theirs. I don't even know what the hell he's talking about. Here, play this clip.
Ben
It's amazing when they don't give you the information, when you know, when they don't, you know, they're not on the right. That bomber is not a person on the right. It's a person right, left, okay? And you know, when I watch some of those people in the Capitol, our people don't carry ropes on their side. And you know, this and that. Our people aren't scaling. Are you going to get to the bottom of it, people? Well, we're going to try. Yeah, we're going to try. And this, hey, look, the unselect committee of political thugs, these horrible people, Democrats and two of the worst Republicans in history, crying Adam and Liz Cheney, two of the worst. They are just sick people.
Brett
Then Fox brings on Sean Duffy, the secretary of transportation who got his start on the Real World Road Rules Challenge. And here he attacks air traffic controllers for retiring after 25 years. He goes, why do they retire so early? Here, play this clip.
Ben
We have too many controllers that retire after 25 years of service. And so we have to look and go, is this a national security issue? Is this a safety issue? And should these air traffic controllers be retiring after 25 years of service? Should we have another calculation that happens because of the, of the national security component of our airspace? That's something that we're looking at with the administration because again, the only way you actually can build these numbers, if you add 2,000 people into the system and you don't have 2,000 people who leave the system, that's the only way the numbers work. So it's going to be a broader conversation, but we're going to focus on it. And again, air travel is the safest mode of transportation in the country. You can't travel anywhere safer than on an airplane. A lot of news coverage about crashes now. But again, we're working our hearts out to make sure everything is safe. More effort, more air traffic controllers. And we have a better air traffic control system, new investments. And again, it's going to take us time to undo what wasn't done over the last four years, Stuart.
Brett
Really, because it's a pretty Stressful job. What is their attack? These rich people what hate Americans retiring, they hate American Social Security. They, they, they hate people, they hate life. Life isn't all about these air traffic controllers who work 25 years in a very stressful job. You don't think they should retire after 25 years while these billionaires are getting all the benefits in the world. It's so effed up anyway. Here you have Sean Duffy on pulling EV charging stations. Play this clip.
Ben
Not only that, they put charging stations into this project store. We pulled those charging stations out and what we've done across all the grants that we give. I'm not doing green. I'm not doing social justice. We're building infrastructure. The last administration wanted all these green and social justice requirements that drive up the cost of projects. We've said no more. We're doing roads, bridges, this, this infrastructure at the southern border. But enough of the side projects make that, make the investment, spend the taxpayer money well, enough of the green, enough of the social justice. And so I think we're getting more for the taxpayer money because we're focused the cash on infrastructure, not on social policy or Democrat liberal policy.
Brett
Show you this other piece right here where in the FOX interview with Pam Bondi they basically this is why they're state regime media because they're inextricably intertwined with the regime, the Trump authoritarian regime. Here they are encouraging Pam Bondi to criminally prosecute New York Attorney General Letitia James after Donald Trump's investigators have recommended to Pam Bondi that the New York Attorney General face criminal prosecution. Here, play this clip.
Ben
I want to squeeze in one more topic. There's news here in New York that deals with Letitia James tried to prosecute the now President Trump in his second term. I just want to read a couple things. Criminal referral, then a response from James's office here in New York. James for both properties listed above. This deals with real estate now going back decades. Really appears to have falsified records in order to beat certain lending requirements and receive favorable loan terms. All right. Her office responded by saying the AG James is focused every single day in protecting New Yorkers Specialist administration weaponizes the federal government against the rule of law and the Constitution. She will not be intimidated by bullies no matter who they are. The issue here is what property she owned and whether or not she owned it, whether or not she was married and whether or not her father was involved in all this. Without going into the weeds of the details, this stems from a case in 1983 and the year 2000, that's a minimum of 25 years. Someone had to do some digging to find this. Am I right about that? Yeah, Bill, the most I know about the case, I just learned from you. I saw it on breaking news this morning. This case was sent to us from Bill Pulte. We have not seen it. I inquired right before I walked out here. No one in my office has read it yet. We haven't looked at it. Of course, we'll be reviewing it. You just told me more than I've heard about it so far. Hey, we aim to please with some breaking news of our own. Indeed. All right, attorney.
Brett
And then the kind of capstone, the, the, the, the gem, if you will, being sarcastic, they bring in disgraced former speaker of the house Kevin McCarthy. And sometimes you forget what a pathetic, spineless piece of, you know what this guy is. So he goes on and he has the audacity and law on Laura Ingram because this is what they were pushing. The reason the economy is doing bad is because the Federal Reserve chairman, Jerome Powell saying bad things about the economy. It's the Federal Chair's fault. It's Federal Reserve Chair Powell. He's doing it by talking about things. Play this clip, Kevin.
Ben
I want to talk about what Jerome Powell did today. He essentially came out and said that these tariffs, which the Democrats are going to seize on, obviously that the tariffs are going to, you know, likely to create some type of recession and that will hurt US Growth forecasts going forward. Which, I mean, there's a, there's a, obviously the Trump administration thinks the exact opposite about how these tariffs will work. But of course, that sent the market way down. And you can kind of see this little game playing out between Powell and the Trump administration. Do you think the Trump administration needs to come out in a full throated manner and refute what the Fed chair said today about an issue that is still number one on the minds of all voters now and will be on the midterms? Well, what he said is hurting the economy. The market reacts to what he said. Now, he only has a short amount of time left in this job and.
Brett
I think there's some excellent people who.
Ben
Can take this job going forward. But remember what President Trump has already done. If you want to look at pure economics, he's getting people to invest billions.
Brett
Of dollars in America because of his policies. You know, this goes back to the Trump ethos. If you don't test, how do you prove people are sick? If you don't look at it, then how do you know what's there, Like a miracle. It's all going to go away, right? That's what Trump says. Jerome Powell, the Federal Reserve chair, is looking at data. I know the Trump ins, the Trump hate data. Looking at it and saying, what we're seeing are signs of recession. We're seeing signs of inflation. We're seeing what happens when you engage in reckless trade wars with the world and you tariff the world. We're seeing what happens when China bans rare earth minerals are being exported into the United States. When China now bans in Hong Kong the postal service from shipping things to the United States. Um, we're seeing it play out. So he's telling you Jerome Powell is giving you the data and who do they blame? They blame the messenger, right? Why did they all hate Dr. Fauci? Because Dr. Foushee was just saying, here's what's happening, and they go after the messenger versus their own ridiculous and dangerous policy. So there you have it, folks. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 5 million subscribers. Judge for yourself if Fox is spiraling there.
Ben
Let's.
Brett
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Summary of "Fox News Loses It as Trump Suffers Bad News"
Podcast: The MeidasTouch Podcast
Hosts: Ben Meiselas, Brett Meiselas, Jordy Meiselas
Episode Release Date: April 17, 2025
In the April 17, 2025 episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosts Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas delve into the tumultuous media landscape surrounding former President Donald Trump. The episode, titled "Fox News Loses It as Trump Suffers Bad News," provides a critical analysis of Fox News' handling of negative developments related to Trump, highlighting the network's contentious relationship with the former president and the broader implications for media and democracy.
The Meiselas brothers begin by addressing a significant downturn in Fox News' demeanor as Trump faces adverse news. They dissect several high-profile moments and statements from Fox personalities that reflect the network's shifting stance.
One of the focal points is Caroline Levitt, identified as Donald Trump's chief propagandist on Fox News. Levitt appears on air pleaing with China to engage in business with the United States, emphasizing the strength of American consumers. Ben highlights this shift, stating:
Ben [02:03]: "Tonight the ball is in China's court. They need to do business with the United States. They need the best thing on the face of the planet and that is the American consumer."
However, Brett criticizes the perceived weakness in these negotiations:
Brett [03:03]: "To negotiate a trade deal that's supposed to show strength looks like total weakness to me."
The episode takes a sharp turn when Trump makes an unsettling remark about the Holocaust during his Fox News appearance. Brett questions the rationale behind Trump's statement, which downplays the atrocities by suggesting that some people received help:
Brett [04:05]: "What the hell is he even talking about?"
Ben reiterates the problematic nature of Trump's comments:
Ben [04:17]: "He said some people were treated good. All we got was slapped. We didn't get helped. We got slapped."
Attorney General Pam Bondi makes headlines with her harsh statements regarding Abrego Garcia, an American citizen detained in El Salvador. Bondi controversially claims that Garcia's family is better off without him and praises Trump for his actions:
Ben [04:43]: "Maryland is safer because he is gone. [...] every liberal journalist who has called him a Maryland man [...] should be apologizing tonight to President Trump."
Brett counters Bondi's claims by presenting factual inconsistencies and emphasizing the lack of criminal charges against Garcia:
Brett [07:14]: "One of the facts were in 2019, a cop who was disgraced [...] praised due process."
A Trump official on Fox experiences technical glitches while discussing the economy, leading to confusion about the likelihood of a recession—a concern echoed by most economists. The hosts capture this moment:
Brett [05:27]: "But making predictions is difficult for anyone."
Ben adds context by linking the administration's economic policies to current market volatility:
Ben [05:00]: "Financial markets are forward looking. [...] There'll be volatility in the short run."
Sean Duffy, Secretary of Transportation and former reality TV star, criticizes air traffic controllers for retiring after 25 years, questioning if it's a national security issue:
Ben [11:34]: "Should we have another calculation that happens because of the national security component of our airspace?"
Brett vehemently disagrees, defending the controllers' right to retire and criticizing the administration's stance:
Brett [12:32]: "These rich people hate Americans retiring [...] It's so effed up anyway."
Former Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy blames Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell for economic woes, alleging that Powell's statements are detrimental:
Ben [16:22]: "Jerome Powell is giving you the data and who do they blame? They blame the messenger."
Brett underscores the administration's frustration with Powell's economic assessments:
Brett [17:29]: "Jerome Powell is looking at data [...] we're seeing signs of recession."
Amidst the serious political discourse, the Meiselas brothers intersperse humor to maintain an engaging tone. One notable segment features a skit about Fox News hosts eating "dirty bagels," satirizing the network's perceived lapses in professionalism:
Ben [09:01]: "This guy is definitely auditioning for the Pete Hegseth. Pete Hegseth would drop a bagel with cream cheese [...]"
Brett continues the jest, reflecting on the absurdity of the situation:
Brett [10:05]: "Life isn't all about these air traffic controllers [...] It's a gross game they're playing."
The episode underscores a critical narrative: Fox News, traditionally a staunch supporter of Trump, is visibly faltering in its coverage as Trump grapples with negative news. The hosts argue that Fox's inconsistent and often contradictory statements reflect deeper issues within the network's allegiance and journalistic integrity. By highlighting specific instances where Fox personalities either contradict Trump's positions or display vulnerability, the Meiselas brothers suggest a decline in Fox's dominance and reliability as a news source.
Additionally, the hosts emphasize the importance of supporting democratic values and transparency in media. Their analysis extends beyond mere critique, advocating for accountability and factual reporting to safeguard democracy from partisan biases and misinformation.
In "Fox News Loses It as Trump Suffers Bad News," The MeidasTouch Podcast offers a comprehensive and critical examination of Fox News' portrayal of Donald Trump amidst challenging times. Through incisive commentary, highlighted by notable quotes and timestamped clips, the hosts present a compelling case for the necessity of honest and unbiased media in maintaining the health of democracy. Interwoven with their signature humor and brotherly banter, the episode serves as both an informative and engaging listen for followers of political discourse.