Fox News Spirals on Air After Trump’s Worst Day of Term

Summary

The MeidasTouch Podcast: "Fox News Spirals on Air After Trump’s Worst Day of Term"

Date: November 13, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the MeidasTouch brothers break down the fallout across Fox News after what they describe as one of Donald Trump’s most disastrous days during his term. They analyze Fox News' on-air responses to Trump’s controversial comments about American workers and Chinese students, the bombshell release of 20,000 Epstein emails implicating Trump, and Fox's desperate attempts to spin every negative story. The show features sharp banter, biting satire, and mashups of Fox's top personalities in crisis mode, plus standout moments from progressive commentator Stephanie Miller dismantling Sean Hannity live.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fox News’ Spin Mode After Trump’s Gaffes and the Epstein Email Dump

• Fox’s Response to Trump’s Interview
  • Ben opens with a scathing assessment:

    “Regime media known as Fox News—they’re spiraling out of control… Trump’s like, you know, Americans can't work these factory jobs... they’re not good enough, they’re not smart enough. Fox had to go into coverup mode.” ([00:30])

  • Fox pivots to declare Trump a “pragmatist, not a globalist,” employing rapid-fire talking points.
  • Notable Quote:

    “To the more than 77 million Americans who voted for President Trump, don’t flinch. No one’s better at politics than he is.” —Conservative Commentator ([01:37])

2. Examples of Fox’s Defensive Guests and Claim-Deaf Spin

• Dr. Oz on "MAHA”—Make America Healthy Again

  • Dr. Oz is introduced as a “concrete example of Maha in action... [with] access to weight loss drugs at a ...fifth [the] price.” ([03:09])
  • Ben mocks the segment's desperation, remarking on Trump’s “20-minute nap during the press conference.”

• Brooke Rollins and Claims of Economic Improvement

  • Rollins, Secretary of Agriculture, insists “costs are coming down,” countered by Ben as “Right everybody? Wrong, Brookie. It’s not true.” ([03:25])
  • The Fox roundtable blames “blue states” for alleged welfare fraud and insists “under President Trump...More jobs, better jobs...costs are coming down.” ([04:36])

3. Stephanie Miller vs. Sean Hannity on Epstein and California

• Using Live Fox Airwaves to Call Out Trump & Epstein

  • Stephanie Miller’s appearance is celebrated:
    • “She used her appearance on Fox to make sure the Fox audience knew that Trump was all over those Epstein emails.” —Ben ([05:10])
  • Notable Exchange:

    “Trump’s all over the Epstein files... Are you covering that tonight?” —Stephanie Miller ([06:48]) “Not really.” —Fox News Host ([06:58])

• Epic California vs. Florida Smackdown

  • When Hannity targets California, Miller fires back:
    • “Last time I checked, California is the fourth largest economy in the world, so shut up Sean.” —Ben, paraphrasing Miller ([07:43])
    • Miller retort:

      “Are they leaving for Florida, which is like last in everything because we’re kind of first in everything?” ([08:11]) “Are you the fourth largest economy in the world, or are we? I forget.” ([08:28])

4. Fox Brings Out Their "Big Guns" for Damage Control

• Cash Patel, Comer, Jordan, and Stephen Miller Rallying Around Trump
  • Cash Patel, promoted as “FBI director,” shifts to sycophantic praise:

    “President Trump’s a brilliant and master negotiator...defending American citizens, the health of our children and the future of our nation.” ([10:33])

  • Jim Jordan and James Comer warn of a “socialist takeover” if Democrats gain ground. ([11:10])
  • Stephen Miller claims:

    “President Trump bringing trillions of investment...giving Americans trillions of dollars in tax cuts...Democrats are the party of destruction. President Trump is leading...creation, opportunity and wealth.” ([12:07])

5. MAGA Talking Points Pile-Up

• Defense of Shutdown Pain and Government Programs
  • “MAGA Mike” justifies Trump’s handling of shutdowns and welfare restrictions:

    “He worked around the clock every day to mitigate the pain...We’ll give them every aid and assistance we can.” ([12:58])

• Kristi Noem Boasts of “Secret Plans”
  • Noem hints at “super secret plans for Chicago” and defends ICE operations.

    “We’re not going to just be in Chicago. We’re spreading out to other cities...So I’m so thankful for Border Patrol, thankful for ICE…” ([13:56])

6. Mocked Segment: VP J.D. Vance and RFK Jr. Attach Themselves to Trump’s Image

• Ben lampoons JD Vance’s attempt at "meta" humor regarding Trump’s foreign diplomacy and shifting persona.

  “You are a truly weird human, JD. Like, you are a truly weird human.” ([15:30])

• RFK Jr. praises Trump for “bulldozing the Overton window,” interpreted as pushing the limits of acceptable political discourse.
  • RFK Jr. on Trump:

    “Working for a president who just takes a bulldozer to the Overton window and does that like shocks us every day...” ([16:41])

  • J.D. Vance agrees:

    “That is a good summary of Donald J. Trump is that he takes a bulldozer to Overton windows every single day.” ([16:52])

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Ben on Fox’s Coverup:

  “Fox thinks so little of their audience. Does MAGA realize they're being played?” ([02:38])

• Stephanie Miller Skewers Hannity About Trump and Epstein:

  “Trump’s all over the Epstein files...Are you covering that tonight?” ([06:48])

• Stephanie Miller on California’s Economy:

  “Are you the fourth largest economy in the world, or are we? I forget.” ([08:28])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Fox News on Defensive After Trump’s Comments – [00:30]
• Dr. Oz “MAHA” Segment – [03:09]
• Brooke Rollins on Economic “Improvement” – [03:25]
• Stephanie Miller vs. Hannity, Epstein Files – [05:36]
• California/Florida Economic Showdown – [07:43]
• Cash Patel’s Trump Hype – [10:33]
• Stephen Miller’s Trillion-Dollar Spin – [12:07]
• MAGA Mike on Government Shutdown – [12:58]
• Kristi Noem’s Secret Chicago Plan – [13:56]
• JD Vance and RFK Jr. on Trump’s "Meta" Impact – [15:30], [16:41]

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Tone and Style

The brothers blend sharp political critique with their signature comedic banter and sarcasm. The episode is packed with media analysis, direct soundbites from Fox News, and plenty of high-energy callouts.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode is a guided tour through Fox News’ defensive maneuvers as they scramble to protect Trump after a series of damaging revelations and blunders. With the Meiselas brothers’ sardonic style and Stephanie Miller’s fearless Fox takedowns, listeners get a punchy, irreverent, and critical look at cable news spin and the state of right-wing media post-Epstein files.

Transcript

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[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

Regime media known as Fox News. They're spiraling out of control and collapsing on live TV after that disastrous interview between Laura Ingraham, one of Fox Propaganda's and Donald Trump where Trump's like we need to make sure we have 600,000 Chinese students over American students. And Trump's like, you know, Americans can't work these factory jobs or high skill jobs. They're not good enough, they're not smart enough. Fox had to go into cover up mode. Now compound that with the release of the 20,000 Epstein emails which are absolutely devastating for Donald Trump. Fox is an absolute mess. They don't know what to do. So let me just show you how they're trying to cover it up. The anatomy of the COVID up propaganda. So Laura Ingram's like look what you observed in my interview with Donald Trump. Look at the end. He's a pragmatist, he's a populist, not a globalist. Here, play this clip.

[Conservative Commentator]

So when you hear people dumping on this administration from the right, remember Democrats believe you should get zero benefits from your American citizenship.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

Zero.

[Conservative Commentator]

Meanwhile, as we sit in our warm studios, and that's where I am, the President's trying to re industrialize only the entire United States of America. That's all. And if you think Mamdani or the squad, oh, they're gonna stand up for you and their workers garb and they're gonna, you know, in their shirt sleeves get it all done. Maybe some of these mouthy new socialist primary candidates, they're going to get it done for you. Well you haven't been listening to them. If you're a native born American who grew up in something approaching a traditional household, they pity you at best and they loathe you at worst. So there's always going to be disagreements on strategy and approach and everybody should have their say. But to the more than 77 million Americans who voted for President Trump, don't flinch. No one's better at politics than he is. And in the end he's a pragmatist and a Populist. He's not a globalist and he's not a sellout. And that's the angle.

[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

As we wrote on the Midas touch accounts. Fox thinks so little of their audience. Does MAGA realize they're being played? And then Laura INGRAHAM Brings on Dr. Oz. Can't believe this guy is still in the government or is in the government at all to start with. And, and he's like a concrete example of Maha, make America healthy again. It's what happened last Thursday. What do you mean? When Donald Trump was like sleeping for 20 minutes during the actual press conference. Maha. Maha. Here, play this clip.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

And a concrete example of Maha in action to me was what happened Thursday in the Oval Office when the President presided over an effort that will allow all Americans to access these weight loss drugs at a price that is about a fifth, 20% of what the list price is today.

[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

Then propagandist Laura Ingraham brings on Brooke Rollins, who they call on Fox. Brookie, she's the Secretary of Agriculture and she wants to just tell us how stupid she thinks we all are. And she's like, costs are coming down. They really are. Things are so much better. Things are so much cheaper. Right everybody? Wrong, Brookie. It's not true. Secretary Rollins, that ain't happening. Here, play this clip.

[Conservative Analyst]

Yeah, it is. It's staggering and so discouraging. You know, if you're a taxpayer and you're working hard every day and you're paying your taxpayer, you're paying your taxes and then you look and you see these stories of this fraud of people charging more than once that we found one guy in six states who was collecting in six different states under the same number. But again, if we hadn't asked for this data, and by the way, Laura, these are the red states that turn their data over. It is the blue states we're still trying to get data on. Can you imagine if this fraud is happening in the red states, what's happening in the blue states?

[Conservative Commentator]

What are they hiding?

[Fox News Host/Guest]

What are they hiding?

[Conservative Analyst]

Again, I think they're buying their votes. They're trying to push as much of our taxpayer dollars into certain segments of the society in order to say, hey, we're here to help you. We're going to give you a lot of free stuff.

[Conservative Commentator]

Dependency.

[Conservative Analyst]

So vote for us. And it's dependency under President Trump. More jobs, better jobs. The economy is growing. We've got better take home pay for the first time in at least four years. Maybe more costs are coming down. And now it's time to get serious about these government programs, move people from welfare to work and fundamentally change the trajectory of this.

[Conservative Commentator]

And an illegal alien should not be getting food stamps paid for by the American taxpayers. So I know that 100% something. You guys are the priority list.

[Conservative Analyst]

That's right. It's already illegal, but now we got to make sure that that's being implemented.

[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

Now, this was Chef's kiss. Our friend Stephanie Miller, you know her, you love her. She went on Sean Hannity, the belly of the beast, and she destroyed him. She used her appearance on Fox to make sure the Fox audience knew that Trump' was all over those Epstein emails and all over the Epstein files. And Hannity was shaking in his boots. Here, play this clip.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

I thought it was funny, but if it was anybody else, I probably wouldn't think it was as funny. So well done.

[Stephanie Miller]

Thank you for being the only one on the right that gets the joke, Sean. It was a joke. And then, you know, the funniest thing about this story is Trump's all over the Epstein files. And I wonder if they're going to release that after the big bombshell. I didn't say anything about that on Fox News today. Yeah.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

All right, Bill Clenzen, let's release them.

[Stephanie Miller]

Let's release those files. Is this what passes for news? Is this what passes for why did.

[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

You kiss her Picture more from Stephanie Miller right here. She absolutely crushed it. Hannity's like, when did you notice Biden's cognitive decline? Watch what she says. Play this clip.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

I do have a question. I tried to get an answer out of you on radio.

[MAGA Supporter/Guest]

Okay.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

The question is, when did you notice Joe Biden's cognitive decline? And don't. I don't, don't change the subject and deflect. When did you really notice it?

[Stephanie Miller]

Well, I, I think it was through all of the times that Donald Trump has fallen asleep in public and talked about, you know, magnets getting wet in the last few, you know, my mom had to mention.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

So I recognize it. This is not. It's a very good deflection. You're a professional.

[Stephanie Miller]

You know what else is great about Biden's. Biden's decline is that Trump is all over the Epstein files. And I'm wondering if they're going to release those. Are you covering that tonight?

[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

Not really.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

Because the woman that apparently they're talking about is the one that said he was a gentleman and never did anything wrong. And the person that had a grudge was the guy that got thrown out of mar a Lago 25 years ago. And by the way, when you get thrown out of a club in Palm Beach, Florida, that's kind of a big deal and it's very humiliating and embarrassing. And he was a convicted pedophile, so I'm not exactly putting a lot of possible truth in what he said. Trump was mad that he was.

[Stephanie Miller]

My next question, girls.

[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

But yeah, now that's how you defend. Done. Great work, Stephanie. Should I show you one more clip of Stephanie? Okay, we'll do one more clip. Here she is as Sean Hannity wants to attack California. Stephanie's like, the last time I checked, California is the fourth largest economy in the world, so shut up. Sean, you play this clip.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

And by the way, when you're out there in California, where you live the united socialist utopia, if you see Gavin, because Gavin doesn't like me anymore, you might want to tell him that fire hydrants need water and reservoirs need to.

[Stephanie Miller]

Be in our fourth largest economy in the world.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

I'll tell them, yeah, yeah, maybe having the highest income taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, and highest poverty rate. Not great. That's why so many people are leaving.

[Conservative Analyst]

Oh, really?

[Stephanie Miller]

Are they leaving for Florida, which is like last and everything because we're kind of first in everything?

[Fox News Host/Guest]

I hate to tell you. No, actually, Florida's first in education, lowest in taxes, and over a trillion dollars in migration. Money has moved to Florida. You guys have lost nearly 400 billion. But who's.

[Stephanie Miller]

Are you the fourth largest economy in the world, or are we? I forget.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

You could thank Silicon Valley. In spite of Gavin Newsom, that would be population size that he used to have.

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[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

Propaganda needs to kick into overdrive, right? So they bring on Cash Patel. And you know, Cash Patel, FBI director before getting the job as FBI director, he was a right wing podcaster whose main shtick was released the Epstein files. Like that was his thing as a podcaster. K dollar sign, whatever. His stupid logo was released the Epstein files Patel. So he's brought in to be the FBI director. And so he knows like he's nervous. So he's like Donald Trump is a great negotiator. Donald Trump is a really good negotiator. I'm looking at you. I'm, I promise you, I'm at you. I'm Cash Patil. That's a good Cash Patel impression. Here, play this one.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

President Trump's a brilliant and master negotiator and he's able not only to provide for the economic security of the American people, but he's out there defending the American citizens, the health of our children and the future of our, of our nation. Just last year, over 100,000 people died from drug overdoses, especially fentanyl.

[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

The audio listeners didn't appreciate that impression that I did of Cash, but they'll have to subscribe to YouTube. YouTube watchers tell the audio that Ben just did a spot on Cash Patel. Then you have James Comer and Jim Jordan there. They're on Hannity I guess as well. And here's what they have to say. Play this clip.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

Anyone who dare work with the Republican or work with President Trump, if you're a Democrat, you're going to be Joe Manchin, you're going to be Kristen Cinnamon. You're going to be pushed out of the Democrat party and replaced with a like minded socialist like Ocasio Cortez.

[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

And then they bring in angry Stephen Miller because after Stephanie Miller destroyed Donald Trump, they're all right, can we bring in Stephen Miller? And maybe people will get confused between the two. No, we won't. And Stephen Miller's like, Donald Trump is bringing in $20 trillion. He's bringing in so much trillions of dollars, everybody. It's like, okay, no he's not. He's crashing our economy. His trade war against the world has been an absolute disaster. Most of our economy is in a recession right now. We have a contracting GDP. We have 20 million Americans about to be kicked off of healthcare, and we have Ice Gestapo roaming the streets of right now, rounding people up and throwing them into concentration camps. Here, play this clip.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

Think about the contrast, Sean. President Trump bringing trillions of investment into America, giving Americans trillions of dollars in tax cuts. And what did Democrats do in their big moment? They steal hardworking money from our taxpayers, they cancel their flights, and they destroy billions of dollars in economic value. You will not see a clear contrast. The Democrats are the party of destruction. The President Trump is leading the party of creation, opportunity and wealth.

[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

Oh, no. Mega Mike, Maga Mike, you're going to show up. So they bring in Maga Mike. And Maga Mike's like, everybody knows that Donald Trump worked around the clock to mitigate the pain of the American people. He's doing his best to stop the pain. He literally went to the Supreme Court to block snap payments to $42 million. MAGA Mike here, play this clip and.

[MAGA Supporter/Guest]

We'Ll be talking with the team. The president, as you know, has been over backwards through this ent ordeal. In the longest shutdown in US History, he worked around the clock every day to mitigate the pain, to reduce the pain as much as possible for the people. They, they found creative ways to get the troops paid to keep Women, Infants and Children nutrition programs going and all the rest. And so you'll see that same level of fervor. The entire cabinet, the entire administration, is going to work around the clock to get the government open and operational again as quickly as possible. They'll do that as fast as we can. And of course, we'll give them every aid and assistance that we can out of the House and the Senate.

[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

Then comes In Kristi Noem, ICE Barbie herself, the Homeland Security Secretary who spent $200 million of our taxpayer dollars on private jets for her and Corey Lewandowski. Fantastic.

[MAGA Supporter/Guest]

Great work.

[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

Christine Noam. And she's like, we have super secret plans for Chicago. The invasion is just starting. You don't even know what we're going to do. It's so incredible. Here, play this clip.

[Stephanie Miller]

We're not going to just be in Chicago. We're spreading out to other cities and continuing to do our work. I won't talk about specific operations, but we're not going to give him any relief from his political rhetoric. We're going to be in there defending these families. The significant difference that we've made in Public safety in Chicago is something that we need more in many more cities. So I'm so thankful for Border Patrol, thankful for ice, that they get up every single day and they go into these dangerous situations and they protect people.

[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

All right, so then they have this. This show that they did on Fox, which is, like, the worst show ever, and it features VPJD Vance and RFK Jr. And, like, they're trying. They're like. They're trying to pretend that they're, like, bros, right? They're, like, trying to bro out. And J.D. vance is such, like, a phony. Like, he's had, like, three different names. His entire life is one big fake. Like, three different personalities. When he was in, like, high school and growing up, he said he was gay, that he doesn't like gay people. And then he says he's like, Appalachian hates Trump, and he loves Trump, and he has different names. Really, really strange, weird dude who's like, doesn't really know who he is, but anyway, he's like, leans back. He's like, did you see Donald Trump in the Oval Office with the leader of Syria? And he was like, how many wives do you have? And there was, like, a meta joke. Like, there was. The joke was meta. It was on so many levels, and it was so funny. Dude, you're not funny. I don't know what the hell this is. You're a weird. You're a weird human being, jd. Like, you are a truly weird human. Here, play this clip.

[J.D. Vance]

Well, I mean, I don't know if you saw this video circulating on social media, but, you know, the president met some. Met the president of Syria, Al Shara, in the Oval Office a couple of days ago. And, you know, he asked him. He's like, well, how many wives do you have? And it's just like, oh, what? What an amazing question. Amazing comedic timing. There. There are layers to it. There's like a meta humor to it.

[Conservative Commentator]

Just.

[J.D. Vance]

Anyway, you know, but.

[MAGA Supporter/Guest]

But.

[J.D. Vance]

But we've got. We got a lot of good. A lot of good humor in the cabinet.

[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

And then in response to that, you have. I won't do my RFK impression. Okay? I won't do the rfk. Then RFK responds, and he's like, the great thing about Donald Trump is he bulldozes the Overton window every day. Just so you know, if you don't know what the Overton window is, it's like the. It's like a. It's like a philosophical concept about what's acceptable behavior. So RFK Jr saying that the fact that he bulldozes the overton window of democracy and that he just destroys agencies and destroys departments. That, that's what, that's what RFK likes about him. Here, play this clip.

[Fox News Host/Guest]

And now we're working for a president who just takes a bulldozer to overton window and does that like shocks us every day and then we go okay.

[J.D. Vance]

Well that's exactly right. That is a, that is a good summary of Donald J. Trump is that he takes a bulldozer to overton windows every single day.

[Ben (Host/Narrator)]

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