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Canada is saying Goodbye United States. You see, Canada is beyond being just furious at the Trump regime and the United States. Canada has moved on Canada saying we are finding new allies across the world. We are changing our economy to become far less dependent on the United States. And because of what the Trump regime has done to Canada and the authoritarianism that festers in the United States, Canada will continue to boycott United States products, Canada will continue to boycott United States tourism and Canada will lead the international boycott of American products and of tourism into the United States Canada strong, elbows up. And you may have heard over the past 48 hours that Canada is saying to the United States, okay, United States, because you've been begging, remove some of the retaliatory tariffs that we have on the United States. We'll remove some of the retaliatory tariffs that are governed by Kuzma, the Canadian United States Mexico agreement. But Canada's doing it from a position of strength. But what Prime Minister Carney is doing, and I'm going to show you the moves taking place behind the scenes here is Prime Minister Carney has dispatched his industry minister, his foreign minister. They're going across the world right now and Carney is going to be in Germany in the coming week and they are meeting with these world leaders in order to develop new relationships, new alliances, new economic models away from the United States. So you have Canada, very united. The premiers other than maybe Danielle Smith of Alberta are very, very united. From the left wing parties like the New Democratic party with David E.B. the Premier in British Columbia, to the right wing parties like the Conservative Party, Doug Ford, the premier of Ontario, you know, to liberal premiers and leaders like Prime Minister Carney, the prime minister, they are standing strong. Let me show you what David Eby says. British Columbians are feeling the impact of unfair US Tariff on softwood and aluminum. We, we welcome a deal that works for B.C. but let's keep focused on moving to other markets who want our products. We'll continue to grow our economy and deliver more family supporting jobs for people we're moving beyond. Here's what Prime Minister Carney had to say the other day where he goes, look, we are. Let me, he goes, let me be very clear what we're doing here. Don't view the fact that we're dropping some retaliatory tariffs on Kuzmo related products. That's the Canadian United States Mexico agreement as weakness or elbows not up. He's like, let me be clear. Canada is moving elsewhere. We are doing deals with other countries and we're moving away from the United States. So they're at our border. We can't ignore them. But we're going to do deals elsewhere. That's what we're focused on here. Play this clip.
Prime Minister Carney
As we develop our new trade relationship with the United States, Canada will continue to take all measures necessary to support Canadian workers, our businesses and our consumers. To address challenges in strategic sectors from agriculture to autos, the Canadian government will soon announce a new comprehensive industrial strategy that protects Canadian jobs, boosts Canadian competitiveness, buys Canadian goods and diversifies Canadian exports. In parallel, we are focused on on building our strength here at home. Building Canada strong. The Canadian government will soon select the first in a series of new nation building projects that will connect and transform our economy. We will catalyze investment and create higher paying careers through our new defence industrial strategy. We'll transform Canadian strategic sectors that are being severely affected, impacted by US Trade. We work to double the pace of home building in Canada and in the process create a new Canadian housing industry. And we will develop new and stronger partnerships throughout the world. For decades, as a result of a series of trade agreements, starting with the Free Trade agreement of the 1980s, the Canadian and the US economies have become steadily more integrated, continually more deeply connected. As I've emphasized in recent months, that steady process of integration is now over. As a result, some of our historic strengths have become vulnerabilities. We can and must adapt to this new reality. That means concentrating on trade, investment and security partnerships that preserve our sovereignty. And it means striking new trade deals that are robust to different economic circumstances, different governments, because of the mutual benefits to both countries. In all these ways, Canada will move from reliance to resilience, building our strength at home, developing new markets abroad, creating new opportunities for Canadian workers and businesses as we build the strongest economy in the G7.
Political Commentator
And one such deal. Prime Minister Carney announces that he's going to Germany. He will be meeting with Frederick Merz, who's the Chancellor of Germany. And you'll recall that Prime Minister Carney had Canada enter into a new defense deal with Europe. And this is what we're seeing take place across the world. Lonely, isolated United States. While Canada is meeting with Germany, Canada is meeting with Finland and Sweden, um, China is meeting with Brazil, uh, India's meeting with China, and Donald Trump's there saying, oh, you like my photo with Vladimir Putin? Look at him. Putin sent me this photo, everybody. Ridiculous. Here, play this clip of Carney talking about going to Germany. Let's play this clip. And the German government says that you're going to Berlin next week. Can you tell us why you're going to Europe and what you're hoping to accomplish there?
Prime Minister Carney
I'm very much looking forward to meeting with the Chancellor, members of his cabinet, a number of German businesses, next week, next Tuesday. And it's picking up on discussions that we have had since we first met in Rome in April, subsequently at the G7 and along the way about how we can deepen our economic and security partnership with Germany, how we can turn the opportunities that exist already under Cedar our free trade agreement with Europe, but also across broader areas and how we. We work and develop those. So I have a broader delegation with the Minister of Natural Resources, for example, will be there. The Minister of Defense will be there. The Minister of Industry will come as well, because there's a broad range of areas, from critical minerals to energy and defense and security, where we are intensifying our discussions with Germany. Many opportunities, as I say, it started in the spring, moves with this, with this meeting. And, you know, we have a good partnership. Canada is a good partnership with Germany. It's been built up over the years, but it can be much, much better. And I'm confident that with this chancellor and the focus of our government, that it will be.
Political Commentator
And then Prime Minister Carney gives an analogy to where he sees the current state of negotiations with the United States to, To hockey. Of course, he give it a hockey analogy. Um, but one of the things Carney points out is we didn't listen to Trump's deadline. Trump set a deadline. We called his bluff. We knew his deadline was fake. And now we're moving on. But sure, I mean, we're.
Prime Minister Carney
We're.
Political Commentator
We're going to deal with him surgically while we move on to other partners. Here, play this clip.
Prime Minister Carney
It's important that we preserve that well. We focus on two things, the strategic sectors, steel, aluminum, autos, lumber. And we focus on the upcoming review and changes, likely changes to Kuzma. So we are matching something the Americans have done here. First, and it's very significant, it's unique, we get the benefit. The second thing is, you know, and I'll take your analogy, and I have played some hockey over the years, and there is a time in a game, in a big game, and this is a big game, when you go hard in the corners, your elbows up the time in a game, we drop the gloves in the first period and you send a message. And we've done that pretty uniquely in the world. We happen to have the best deal with the Americans right now. I know, but there's also a time in a game where you want the puck, you want to stick, handle, you want to pass, you want to put the puck in the net. And we're moving later into the game, and we're at that time in the game, and that's where the engagement is.
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Political Commentator
And then meanwhile you have Carney's and the government's Minister of Industry, Melanie Jolie. She went to Finland and Sweden and had very productive talks there about their new position in Naito, about defense, you know, and also about a review of United States military weapons versus getting weapons elsewhere. Here's what she had to say.
Minister Melanie Jolie
Play this clip My goal throughout this trip is to make sure that we have strong economic partnership with these two countries as Canada is of course seeking to diversify its economy. The goal is to be closer to the EU and in the context of the eu, two countries that we know we can do more business with and that we can also continue to develop strong partnerships is definitely Sweden and Finland. It is important to remind ourselves that when Finland and Sweden decided to join NATO, at the time Canada was the first to ratify their accession to NATO. It was based on the fact that it was in our interest to have more Arctic countries part of the alliance. But also we knew that there were strong diplomatic and also economic ties with these two countries. In the context of my visit, I met in Sweden, the Prime Minister had breakfast with him this morning, also with the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Economy, Eva Bush, with the Minister of Defense and I also met with key business leaders, maybe the CEO of Saab, of AstraZeneca, of ABB and Ericsson, and we already know that there are lots of very important Swedish companies that are doing business across Canada. The other reason why I'm also in Finland and I've been in contact with the Prime Minister of Finland and I'll be meeting also with the Minister of Foreign affairs, the Minister of Defense and the Minister of the Economy is because Davy Shipyard from LV Quebec has acquired Helsinki Shipyard and it is the first time that a Canadian shipyard in recent history has bought a foreign shipyard and will be able not only to benefit from the work that has been done through the national shipbuilding strategy, but also will be able to export key icebreakers across the world. And this is done in the context also of the ice pack that was signed between Finland, Canada and the U.S. and we think that we can definitely do more work with Finland. I'll be also meeting the CEOs of Nokia and key business leaders of ABB and Petri. So all this in the context of building much more, a stronger economy. We have the vision of having this strongest economy of the G7. This is the mandate that the Prime Minister has given me to make sure that that's the case. And we have to do so through economic diplomacy. And that is why coming to Europe, coming to Sweden and Finland was a key priority for me in the context of my mandate as Industry Minister.
Political Commentator
And she says, look, when it comes to whether or not we are going to purchase F35 from the United States, we were supposed to purchase them back in the day, but we need to look at this now from a position of our sovereignty. So what she's saying is American airplanes make Canada less safe. And Canada's press paused on purchasing F35s. I think if Canada could truly eliminate the F35s from its arsenal, it would. The problem is right now when you have other F35 class planes, it's not easy to not have F35s. So I think Canada has to figure out using the non purchasing of F35s as leverage in their discussions against Trump and Carney and Jolie know how to use leverage but then finding out how to use other, how to get other warplanes in the future.
Minister Melanie Jolie
But play this clip now to go specific to your question on F35s and, and, and, and Saab, etc. There is a study right now that is being done by the Defense Department. It is being led by the Minister of Defense. My job in the context of this decision is to look at options and to understand what could be the different economic benefits. I've had the chance at the Paris Air show back in June to meet with Saab for the first time and to meet with Lockheed Martin as well. I wanted to make sure that we could understand what was being proposed by Saab by going to their facility in Sweden and also having the Secretary of State Stephen Fuhrer with me. And we will be able also to meet with Lockheed Martin and do a similar operation later in the coming weeks. And it is just normal in the context of my mandate to be able to do so. So that's why also I went to Sweden and had conversations with the Swedish government.
Political Commentator
And then here you have Doug Ford, the Premier of Ontario, Conservative premier of Ontario. Here's what he had to say the other day. Play this clip.
Doug Ford
Folks, we all know this is a serious time for our province. President Trump's tariffs are taking direct aim at Ontario Ontario, causing economic uncertainty and hurting families and businesses. Here in Sarnia, home to the Blue Water Bridge, Canada's second busiest commercial border crossing, we are seeing the impacts of that uncertainty firsthand. Our government was elected on a promise to protect Ontario and stand up for families and workers and companies and communities right across the province. Through our plan to protect Ontario. We're doing everything in our power to cut the red tape and make Ontario and Canada the strongest, most competitive, resilient and self reliant economy in the G7.
Political Commentator
Just so you can get a pulse of what people in Canada are feeling right now, about 80% of Canadians say that even if you did a deal with Trump, he won't honor the deal. So why even do a deal with Canada with between Canada and the United States in the first place? This from Politico. It's what I just talked about. Canada courts Arctic allies to counter Russia amid Putin's threats and Trump's tariffs. Carney embraces a Nordic defense alliance. And it goes on to talk about how the Finnish foreign minister met with the Canadian foreign minister at the same time the industry minister of Canada met with her counterparts there in Finland and Sweden. But you see how Carney is asserting himself as a leader internationally right now. I think that's important to note. Las Vegas tourism is absolutely crashing right now as a result of the Canada's boycott. Gonna cost literally tens of billions of dollars right now. Travel to the United States from Canada is down like close to 40% at this point. And I like this article right here from the cbc. I won't back down. How and why Canadians are boycotting the U.S. canadians being extra mindful about where they spend money. And it goes on to talk about how Canadians are rabid. Label readers. One of the most common things we hear from Canadians now is they become very vigilant about reading labels to make sure no aspect of it is is made in America and that they buy Canada. Also buying Canada helps with inflation, helps the Canadian economy helps bring down Canadian inflation, helps with the Canadian economy. You see Canada is being very smart about this. While Donald Trump is saying I don't like windmills. I don't like the real like the way windmills are and just being an utter idiot and having contradictory, unstable policies. Canada's presenting itself as a stable, reliable partner in a multilateral world. Multilateralism. We see leaders talking about that frequently now. And it's a jab at Trump, who's rejected multilateralism in a globalized world. And lots of Canadians are saying we're going to do a lifetime boycott at this point. We're not just doing a short term boycott, we're gonna boycott forever. Anyway, let me know what you think. Hit subscribe let's get to 6 million and thank you all so much for watching new Midas merch. Head to store.midas touch do and get yourself the best pro democracy gear and show your support. That's store.midas touch.com.
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Date: August 24, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett & Jordy Meiselas
This high-energy episode explores an unprecedented shift in US-Canada relations, as Canada moves decisively away from economic and political reliance on the United States in response to Trump’s renewed regime and tariffs. The brothers track the collective Canadian response—a blend of government assertiveness, cross-party unity, and surging grassroots support for a boycott of US goods and tourism—while highlighting the broader international ramifications. Through spirited banter and pointed analysis, the Meiselas brothers frame Canada’s "elbows up" moment as a testament to democracy and multilateralism, contrasting it sharply with Trump’s isolated, erratic leadership.
[01:58–07:29]
Notable Quote:
"Canada is saying 'Goodbye United States.' You see, Canada is beyond being just furious at the Trump regime and the United States. Canada has moved on… will lead the international boycott of American products and of tourism into the United States."
– Political Commentator [01:58]
[05:01–07:29]
Notable Quote:
“As I've emphasized in recent months, that steady process of integration [with the US] is now over. As a result, some of our historic strengths have become vulnerabilities. We can and must adapt to this new reality.”
– Prime Minister Carney [06:08]
[07:29–10:17]
Notable Quote:
"There’s a broad range of areas, from critical minerals to energy and defense and security, where we are intensifying our discussions with Germany. Many opportunities… I’m confident that with this chancellor and the focus of our government, that it will be [a much better partnership].”
– Prime Minister Carney [08:48]
[10:17–11:35]
Notable Quote:
“We drop the gloves in the first period and you send a message... But there’s also a time in a game where you want the puck… And we’re moving later into the game, and we’re at that time in the game, and that’s where the engagement is.”
– Prime Minister Carney [10:38]
[12:43–17:21]
Notable Quote:
“We have the vision of having the strongest economy of the G7… and we have to do so through economic diplomacy. And that is why coming to Europe, to Sweden and Finland, was a key priority for me…”
– Minister Mélanie Joly [15:15]
[16:27–18:35]
Notable Quote:
“My job… is to look at options and to understand what could be the different economic benefits. I… met with Saab… and with Lockheed Martin as well. I wanted to make sure we could understand what was being proposed by Saab by going to their facility in Sweden… It is just normal in the context of my mandate to be able to do so.”
– Minister Mélanie Joly [17:31]
[18:35–19:32]
Notable Quote:
“President Trump’s tariffs are taking direct aim at Ontario, causing economic uncertainty and hurting families and businesses… We’re doing everything in our power to cut the red tape and make Ontario and Canada the strongest, most competitive, resilient, and self-reliant economy in the G7.”
– Doug Ford [18:54]
[19:32–22:12]
Notable Quotes:
“One of the most common things we hear from Canadians now is they become very vigilant about reading labels to make sure no aspect of it is made in America and that they buy Canada. Also buying Canada helps with inflation, helps the Canadian economy.”
– Political Commentator [20:46]
“Lots of Canadians are saying we're going to do a lifetime boycott at this point. We're not just doing a short term boycott, we're gonna boycott forever.”
– Political Commentator [21:52]
This episode captures a turning point in North American geopolitics, as Canada forcefully reorients itself economically, industrially, and diplomatically away from Trump’s America. The podcast’s lively, pro-democracy tone and detailed play-by-play analysis—including authentic language from key figures—make it essential listening for anyone tracking the evolving confrontation between autocracy and resilient democracy.