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Charlie Angus
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The premieres in Canada are calling for an emergency meeting with Prime Minister Carney. Canada is absolutely furious and ready to take action against Donald Trump and the Trump regime after his 5th grade like tariff letter from 7-10-20 7-10-2025 saying that it's going to be 35 tariffs on Canadian goods and if you dare tariff Canada your day to dare tariff us in retaliation, I'm going to increase the tariffs by whatever you tariff even more. You know. And this is after Donald Trump was threatening Canada to get rid of a digital sales tax, which tax which in good faith Prime Minister Carney agreed to do. But now across the political spectrum in Canada, everyone from David Eby, Premier in British Columbia to Doug Ford, Premier in Ontario, Conservative Doug Ford, NDP David Eby in British Columbia are saying we need to be united right now. And Prime Minister Carney also seems keen to bring the premiers together. This is what David Eby writes in response to Donald Trump's trade war letter to Canada. Eby writes, this letter is flailing and factually incorrect. Other f words come to mind. Just one more reminder of why Canadians need to come together to grow our economy and stand strong. British Columbians are leading the way on that work. And then the Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford writes in the face of President Trump's latest threats, we need to come together. We need a plan on how Canada will respond and how we'll protect our workers, our businesses and our communities. I've asked Prime Minister Carney I've asked and Prime Minister Carney has agreed to an in person first ministers meeting on Tuesday, July 22 in Huntsville ahead of the Council of the Federation meeting with Canada's premieres. Together we're going to remain united as we protect Ontario and Protect Canada. Let's bring leader of the resistance, former NDP Member of Parliament, Charlie Angus. Charlie, just your initial reaction first, before going into the emergency meeting to Donald Trump's letter to Canada after a trade deal was not made.
Charlie Angus
Well, I mean, is anyone surprised that Trump was going to pull this? You know, he declared he was going to have 90 trade deals in 90 days that bombed. He said that he would have a trade deal with Canada on July 21. And yet he attacked us. He pulled away from the table. The Prime Minister agreed to drop the digital sales tax, which I think cost the Prime Minister a lot of trust in Canada. They were like, why'd you do that? And the Prime Minister tries to present a vision of saying, you know, I'm reasonable. We're going to work with this guy. The Prime Minister didn't respond when Trump threw arbitrary 50% tariffs on steel and aluminum. The Prime Minister said, we're not negotiating in public. And by Twitter, we're going to sit down at the table. And then Donald Trump pulls this stunt. So what's very clear, and I think the Prime Minister had to go through this to really get them. The, the strength he's going to need now is that you don't sit down and negotiate with a gangster regime in good faith. You just can't trust Trump. And the one thing we know about Trump is he's never veered off his intention of destroying our nation by destroying our economy. He's made that clear. He's come back at us again and again. He's wavered on so many other nations, but he's. Canada has remained his focus, his enemy, the nastiest people. He says we see the rising rhetoric coming. Kristi Noem and Kash Patel and the other mega thugs that he has that are blaming Canada for all manner of falsehoods and lies. So this is a moment of decision for Canada to stand up in the face of this kind of threat or roll over. And we are not going to roll over.
Interviewer
Right. There's not rational trade discussions that we would expect of friends and allies coming from the Trump regime. I mean, it is constantly defam and saying that Canada needs to do certain things that Canada's one either already doing or the whole trade letter's premised on. You're sending fentanyl in and you're killing all of these Americans. That's just not true. We see that in Canada. We see in Donald Trump's negotiations with Japan. He says, you need to remove the tariffs on automobiles. And Japan's like, there's no Tariffs on automobiles. What are you talking about? And so, to me, it's just really about attacking national sovereignty of the ones closer allies, the closest allies to the United States. So how do you. How do you even navigate it? I mean, you know, are the people in Canada, Charlie, just ready to say, look, we can deal with this. Just stop the bs, Stop negotiating with this guy. We'll deal with it. And just. Enough.
Charlie Angus
Yeah. I think the real issue here is that Donald Trump's not negotiating on behalf of the American workers in the American economy. He treats trade negotiations as this ritual of humiliation and power struggles that he has to come out on top. He's not interested in what's the benefit of the Wisconsin farmers. He's making this. Now, his new threat is dairy farmers in Canada. Because we have a system that allows, because we have a much more cooperative history in Canada, that our farm communities work together. We are not competing with the Americans. We are not flooding the American market. And American farmers can bring dairy into Canada without tariffs. It's just. They can't flood the market. So Donald Trump is again creating these chimeras, these, you know, fictitious enemies, but it's always about attacking Canada. You know, the 150 nations that he threw tariffs on, including those poor little penguins down near South Africa, South America, he didn't even bother to put tariffs on Putin. He thinks Russia should have more trade. And yet Canada is. Is his enemy. We are his enemy because we are a democratic nation, because we believe in the rule of law, and we do not support people being thrown in concentration camps like we see in the United States. So Canada knows what we're dealing with. Now we're going to have to really hunker down, and we'll see what happens. The next time Donald throws a tantrum, is he going to taco again like he's done in the past when he threatened us? But this, for us, is. Is a line in the sand moment.
Interviewer
Where do we go from here, Charlie? I mean, in. In general. I mean, you, of course, you and I have done interviews seeing the Canadian European Union defense pact. Canada's looking elsewhere. I did a segment last week about how the boycott is still going strong, if not stronger. And you and I were here saying it's. Remember, they were saying, charlie, it's going to be 8 to 10% of a decrease, and that would be crippling to the American economy. It's been, like, closer to 40%. And I think it's really more than that. What happens?
Charlie Angus
Well, I think the really bigger picture here is, is that we need. We see that ordinary Canadians, and this is unprecedented. Ordinary Canadians understand what the threat is. They understand that we're dealing with a nation on our border that is slipping away from the rule of law at a frightening rate. But as we saw in the United States, we have a lot of the political class, the thinkers who say, well, Trump is Trump and we can negotiate. What we're learning is that you cannot negotiate with a gangster regime. It is really now forcing everyone in the country to recognize that this is a line in the sand moment. This is about our sovereignty. This is about nationhood. This is about the rule of law. As we see our closest neighbor, you know, our people who've been our friends, our relatives, our cousins in the Americas, setting up concentration camps and bragging about it and bragging about the viciousness. So where do we go from here? Well, the boycott remains super strong, but the prime minister now, we expect, is going to come back with a very strong statement with the premiers. And we have to go back dollar for dollar, pound for pound. It will hurt us. Yes, we are going to suffer. But the American economy has been rattled. They cannot raise money because nobody is going to invest right now with the chaos that Donald Trump is bringing, whether it's in the copper market, whether it's in ag, whether now it's just across the border attack on Canada. So the American people are going to have to start now really feeling the pain. So this is where we're at. This is an abominable situation, but this is a man who is a malignant slug. He has no interest in the benefit of his own people. It's about him. And we cannot allow that kind of thuggery to interfere with our nation and our sovereignty.
Interviewer
So I'm going to ask you to address two audiences now. First, to the American people who are watching this, and they don't like what Trump's doing, or maybe some do. I don't know. Most people who would be watching this don't like what he's doing. But first, direct your message to them, and then I'll have another one for you.
Charlie Angus
You know, to our friends in America, we are still your friends. We're still your cousins. We still want to see you, but we will never cross that border again. As we watch the rule of law disintegrate. You are always welcome in Canada. Just leave the guns and leave the MAGA hats alone. But to our American allies who are struggling, you are the front line right now in the fight to protect democracy. We get it. Canadians understand that our Anger, our rage is turned against the authoritarians, the billionaires, the oligarchs who are trying to destroy your nation. And while they're destroying your nation, they think they can just walk all over ours. We're not going to let that happen. But remember, that border now has to be defended, and we will defend that border because we may be in the early stages of much further attacks from Trump because he is unstable. We have to defend our country and we will defend our country.
Interviewer
And now, of course, you know that the Trump regime watches this. If Trump's watching this, what's your message to him?
Charlie Angus
Donald, you're so bloody obvious. There's not a single Canadian who woke up this morning and thought, oh, my God, Donald's mad. Oh, my God, Donald's threatening us. Like, Donald, you've been doing this again and again. It's like this bad, broken record. We are sick of it. We are sick of your insults. We are sick of your lies. We are sick of the way you try and turn our nation away from our neighbors by making these false claims about us being a terrorist. Haven mode. El Salvadorian gangs coming over the border about fentanyl. Just stop Donald Trump. If you want to take our country over, you're going to have to do better than that because we will never, ever give in. We are true north, strong and free. We will never kiss the gangster's ring. And if we have to go dollar for dollar, pound for pound in fighting back until you taco again, because you have to explain to the American people why you are tanking their economy, well, we will do that, but we will defend our nation. We will always be Canada. And no matter what you do, no matter what you threaten, we will be there longer than you because you will always taco.
Interviewer
Charlie Angus, leader of the Resistance Tour, former member of Parliament. Thanks for joining us.
Charlie Angus
Thank you so much, everybody.
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Summary of "Furious Canada Takes Urgent Action Against Trump" Episode on The MeidasTouch Podcast
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Overview
In this powerful episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, the Meiselas brothers delve into the escalating tensions between Canada and the Trump administration. Featuring an in-depth interview with Charlie Angus, leader of the Resistance Tour and former Member of Parliament, the episode explores Canada's unified response to Trump's aggressive tariff threats and the broader implications for international relations and democracy.
Background Context
The episode opens with brief advertisements, which are promptly bypassed to address the pressing issue at hand: President Donald Trump's recent letter to Canada threatening a 35% tariff on Canadian goods. This act comes after Trump’s ultimatum to remove the digital sales tax, a move Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had previously agreed to implement.
Canada's Unified Response
The situation has galvanized Canadian premiers across political spectrums to act decisively against Trump's provocations. From David Eby in British Columbia to Doug Ford in Ontario, leaders are emphasizing national unity and economic resilience.
David Eby criticized Trump’s approach, stating, “[This letter] is flailing and factually incorrect. Other f words come to mind” ([00:55]).
Doug Ford echoed the sentiment, emphasizing the need for a cohesive strategy to protect Canadian workers and businesses: “We need to come together. We need a plan” ([05:00]).
Prime Minister Trudeau is spearheading the efforts to consolidate the premiers for an emergency meeting scheduled for July 22 in Huntsville, aiming to fortify Canada's stance against unilateral tariff increases.
Interview with Charlie Angus
The core of the episode features an enlightening conversation with Charlie Angus, who provides critical insights into the dynamics of the trade conflict.
Trump’s Unpredictability and Betrayal
Charlie Angus highlights Trump's unreliable nature in trade negotiations:
“Donald Trump is never veered off his intention of destroying our nation by destroying our economy.” ([03:15])
He criticizes Trump's departure from agreed terms, noting the erosion of trust following the abandonment of the digital sales tax compromise.
Impact on Canadian Sovereignty and Economy
Angus discusses the broader implications of the trade threats:
“This is about our sovereignty. This is about nationhood. This is about the rule of law.” ([08:01])
He underscores the seriousness of the situation, pointing out that Canada’s economy might endure reciprocal hardships:
“We have to go back dollar for dollar, pound for pound. It will hurt us... but the American economy has been rattled.” ([08:01])
Characterization of Trump’s Regime
Angus paints a grim picture of the Trump administration:
“He is a malignant slug. He has no interest in the benefit of his own people.” ([08:01])
He asserts that Trump's actions are driven by personal vendettas rather than national interests, positioning Canada as a steadfast opponent.
Consequences and Future Actions
The episode delves into the potential economic fallout from the ongoing trade war. Charlie Angus predicts significant impacts on both Canadian and American economies, emphasizing that the American populace will begin to feel the strain as investment hesitates amidst the chaos:
“The American people are going to have to start now really feeling the pain.” ([08:01])
Furthermore, Angus anticipates stronger retaliatory measures from Canada, aligning with the premiers' unified front to safeguard national interests.
Dual Messages: To Americans and to Trump
A poignant segment of the interview involves Charlie Angus addressing two distinct audiences:
Message to the American People:
Angus extends solidarity to Americans who oppose Trump's tactics:
“You are the front line right now in the fight to protect democracy.” ([10:11])
He emphasizes Canada's unwavering support for American allies striving to uphold democratic values.
Message to Donald Trump:
Conveying a firm stance, Angus delivers a direct rebuke to Trump:
“Donald, you're so bloody obvious. There's not a single Canadian who woke up this morning and thought... We're sick of your insults. We're sick of your lies.” ([11:13])
He unequivocally rejects Trump's aggression, declaring Canada's intent to defend its sovereignty and economic integrity.
Conclusion
The episode underscores a pivotal moment in Canada-U.S. relations, highlighting Canada’s resolute defense against what it perceives as Trump's destabilizing tactics. Through Charlie Angus's incisive analysis and the portrayal of unified political leadership, The MeidasTouch Podcast paints a comprehensive picture of the challenges and resilient spirit characterizing Canada’s response.
Listeners are left with a clear understanding of the geopolitical tensions at play and the steadfast commitment of Canadian leaders and citizens to protect their nation's sovereignty and democratic values.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps
David Eby on Trump’s Letter: “[This letter] is flailing and factually incorrect. Other f words come to mind” ([00:55]).
Charlie Angus on Trump’s Intentions: “Donald Trump is never veered off his intention of destroying our nation by destroying our economy.” ([03:15])
Charlie Angus on National Sovereignty: “This is about our sovereignty. This is about nationhood. This is about the rule of law.” ([08:01])
Message to Americans: “You are the front line right now in the fight to protect democracy.” ([10:11])
Message to Trump: “Donald, you're so bloody obvious. There's not a single Canadian who woke up this morning and thought... We're sick of your insults. We're sick of your lies.” ([11:13])
Final Thoughts
This episode serves as a comprehensive resource for understanding the complexities of Canada’s strategic response to unilateral economic threats. Through engaging dialogue and expert insights, The MeidasTouch Podcast provides listeners with a nuanced perspective on international trade disputes and the unwavering pursuit of democratic integrity.