Furious Dems Strike Back as GOP Freezes Up in Public

Summary

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The MeidasTouch Podcast

Episode: Furious Dems Strike Back as GOP Freezes Up in Public
Date: September 14, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas

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Overview

This episode spotlights a dramatic week in Congress, with Democratic representatives vocally challenging Republican efforts to obfuscate the Jeffrey Epstein investigation and related files. The Meiselas brothers highlight fiery exchanges on Capitol Hill, focusing on how Democrats are striking back against GOP maneuvers to protect Donald Trump and avoid transparency. The episode balances urgent discussion of justice, governmental accountability, and the victims of Epstein’s crimes with signature MeidasTouch commentary and humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Democrats Go on Offense Regarding Epstein Files

• Democrats, notably Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, are taking an aggressive stance, insisting that the Epstein investigation should not become a partisan issue.
• Rep. Crockett highlights her 15 years as a trial lawyer and why the case transcends partisanship, emphasizing systemic abuse of power and failures of major institutions.
• Crockett insists: “This literally is so big. As someone who practiced criminal law...I have never seen a case this big.” (04:37)

2. The Scale of Complicity

• Crockett outlines the widespread complicity: banks (JPMorgan Chase), corporations, fake marriages, and government actors all allegedly facilitated or ignored Epstein’s crimes.
• On the survivors’ silence: “Literally they would walk in and they would see these pictures of Epstein with all of these powerful people from all over the world, and then he would threaten them and say, if you say anything, just know I know everybody...” (06:04–07:35)
• The demand is clear: learn from mistakes, implement safeguards, and break the cycle.

3. Trump & the Republican Cover-Up

• Rep. Dan Goldman notes the GOP’s sudden silence after learning that Trump appears unfavorably in the Epstein files.
• Goldman: “Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. So now...the Republicans...are quiet.” (08:14)
• GOP committee chairs, especially James Comer and Jim Jordan, are accused of prioritizing Trump’s protection over actual oversight.
• Goldman spells it out: “They’re not asking for any of the evidence that might include Donald Trump. And rather than acknowledge that, you’re just trying to cover up for Donald Trump’s knowledge and involvement...you’re trying to accuse us of being interested.” (09:36)

4. The Signature Debacle & "Investigations"

• Rep. Jared Moskowitz satirically proposes forensic analysis of Trump’s signature in the Epstein birthday book, poking holes in GOP hypocrisy around evidence standards.
• “Let’s bring in a signature expert...swear them under oath, and let’s have the signature examined. Is it his or is it not his? We don’t have to play games.” (10:59–13:07)

5. The FBI Informant Claim

• Speaker Mike Johnson’s odd claim that Trump was an FBI informant is torn apart.
• Moskowitz: “The speaker of the House just said the President was an FBI informant. Huh? ...Did he mean agent? ...I don’t know another word that we use when we’re describing an FBI agent or FBI informant or undercover.” (14:49–17:35)

6. Double Standards and Democratic Resolve

• Crockett compares historic scandals to underline the severity: if a Democrat had made the informant claim, media (and the public) would demand answers.
• She insists on bipartisan support for Epstein’s survivors and a full release of the files: “I don’t care...red, blue, purple, orange, green, yellow, whatever. We should, on a bipartisan basis, want to help these survivors.” (17:39–18:52)

7. First Amendment, Threats, and Oaths

• Crockett rails against Trump’s suggestion that voting to release Epstein files is a “hostile act,” rebutting the idea as un-American and antithetical to congressional oaths.
• “We don’t swear to an orange king. Instead, we have sworn an oath to the Constitution and we were elected to represent the people that elected us.” (18:52–19:36)

8. MAGA Hypocrisy: “America Last”

• Crockett’s frustration with MAGA Republicans' policy priorities surfaces:
• “These people simply hate America. Nearly everything they have done makes Americans less safe and less healthy. The consequences...more children will die...will go hungry..." (21:42)
• Calls out GOP efforts to restrict social programs and democratic access as unpatriotic and devastating for families and children.

9. GOP Ridicule: The “Drama Queen” Comment

• James Comer dismisses Rep. Robert Garcia, the first openly gay ranking Democrat on the Oversight Committee, as a “drama queen.”
• The brothers and Crockett point out the homophobic undertones and the absurdity of Comer’s comment, especially given his own history of using questionable witnesses in GOP investigations.
• Comer: “Garcia...he’s just proven...to just be a real big drama queen because this is all about providing transparency...It’s not about scoring political points.” (24:05–25:21)
• Crockett: “When they’re exposed, they squeal the loudest.” (25:22)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett:
  “As American people, we should all be in unison no matter if you’re a Democrat, Republican or Independent, when it comes down to cracking down on something like this.” (04:37)

• Rep. Dan Goldman:
  “The irony of these Republicans accusing the Democrats now of only being interested in this for political purposes, is so thick that it is almost sucking us into the quicksand.” (08:14)

• Rep. Jared Moskowitz:
  “Let’s bring in a signature expert...we can solve this problem for the American people.” (10:59)
  (on Mike Johnson’s informant gaffe) “What is the misspeak for ‘informant’? I mean, I don’t know another word that we use...” (15:18)

• Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett:
  “We don’t swear to an orange king. Instead, we have sworn an oath to the Constitution...” (18:52) “These people simply hate America. Nearly everything they have done makes Americans less safe and less healthy.” (21:42)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:41 – Jasmine Crockett sets the tone: Dems are fighting back.
• 04:37 – Crockett on why the Epstein case is about justice, not partisanship.
• 06:04 – Crockett details the system-wide enablers of Epstein’s crimes.
• 08:14 – Dan Goldman: Republican silence after Trump surfaces in files.
• 10:59 – Jared Moskowitz calls for signature forensics on the Epstein birthday card.
• 14:49 – Exposing the absurdity of Mike Johnson’s “informant” claim.
• 18:52 – Crockett: Defending the constitutional oath versus Trump “king” loyalty.
• 21:42 – Critique of MAGA Republican attacks on social programs.
• 24:05 – Comer’s “drama queen” dig at Garcia.
• 25:22 – Crockett: “When they’re exposed, they squeal the loudest.”

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Tone & Style Notes

• The Meidas Touch brothers deliver coverage with passionate advocacy for democracy, biting humor, and brotherly banter.
• Democratic lawmakers’ language is direct, sometimes fierce, never shying away from naming names or calling out perceived hypocrisy.
• The episode is both a rallying cry for action on the Epstein files and a pointed critique of GOP obstruction and deflection.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

If you haven’t listened, this episode is a must for understanding how Congressional Democrats are pushing back forcefully against GOP attempts to suppress or politicize the Epstein investigation. Expect unvarnished commentary, frequent quotable moments, and a strong call for accountability that transcends party lines.

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Transcript

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[Narrator / Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

Did the Republicans expect this week? That Democrats were not going to fight back? No. Democrats taken their gloves off being led by people like Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. Now, Congresswoman Crockett came out swinging and she said, look, my background is being a trial lawyer. She was a trial lawyer for 15 years. She said, when it comes to a case like the Epstein case and the Epstein Fil, this is not a partisan issue. This is about exposing the predators. This is about power. This is about justice. And Trump continuing to lie is giving away the game. Watch this moment as Congresswoman Crockett just puts it into clear and concise terms. Let's play it.

[Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

Here's the deal. We have a president that is sitting in office that obviously had a very close relationship with arguably one of the worst pedophiles that we've ever seen in this country. And he's gone from I don't really know him like that. No, we're not really that close. Yes, he was the FBI informant to now. He said there never was this birthday book, there never was this letter. And I think it goes to his credibility or lack thereof when it comes down to this particular investigation. It also goes to when we hear the White House say things like, hey, this will be seen as a hostile act if you sign off on this. Listen, as American people, we should all be in unison no matter if you're a Democrat, Republican or Independent, when it comes down to cracking down on something like this. And this literally is so big. As someone who practiced criminal law in Texas, in Arkansas, and in federal Courts. I have never seen a case this big, and I did it for literally over 15 years.

[Narrator / Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

Next up, you have Congresswoman Crockett saying, let's be clear, this is bigger than just Donald Trump right here. The Epstein files show how banks, corporations, and even governments looked the other way while children were being abused. We can't let this cycle repeat. Here, play this clip.

[Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

So here's the thing. Like, obviously this is concerning. To have a potential pedophile as a president, that is concerning, right? But this is like, even bigger than him. I want people to understand the information that we were given about foreign governments and their participation, the information we were given about our own federal government and how high of a level we're talking about as far as, like, them being in cahoots. We know that JPMorgan Chase ended up paying out a large settlement because they basically kind of look the other way as there were these ridiculous wire transfers that were going by. We know that there were fake corporations that were set up. We know that, or at least we've been told that there were fake immigration documents that were put together so that women from other countries could end up over here. We know that there were allegedly fake marriages. This goes. And it reeks through every single level of government. And it's one of those reasons that these survivors have been quiet for so long, right? Because literally they would walk in and they would see these pictures of Epstein with all of these powerful people from all over the world, and then he would threaten them and say, if you say anything, just know I know everybody, right? And so I think if we are going to prevent Epstein 2.0 or if Epstein 2.0 is taking place right now, I think it's important that we nip this in the bud right now and we learn what we did not know and we put some safeguards in place to prevent this type of thing from happening.

[Narrator / Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

Then you had Democratic Congressmember Dan Goldman talk about Trump's in the Epstein files. We know he's in the Epstein files and not in a good way, in a very bad way. So now the Oversight Committee, the Judiciary Committee, all the MAGA Republicans, y' all are running away because James Comer and Jim Jordan are the useful village idiots who are now covering up for Donald Trump now that you know he's in there in a damaging way, you now cover up for the sex pedo trafficking ring. Here, Play this clip.

[Democratic Congressmember Dan Goldman]

Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. So now all of a sudden, the Republicans who were so aggressively intent on releasing the Epstein files because they Were going to be a huge explosive story about Democrats involved with Jeffrey Epstein are quiet. So the irony of these Republicans accusing the Democrats now of only being interested in this is for political purposes, is so thick that it is almost sucking us into the quicksand. But let's go a step further. Let's go a step further because now the COVID up is getting so deep and so intense that this committee, which has oversight over the Department of Justice and would ordinarily be the one that is doing this investigation, is running away from it. Why? Because Chairman Comer is the useful idiot who will do the COVID up for Donald Trump. And what does that mean? Oh, well, now there is an oversight investigation. But you know what? They're not asking for.

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[Narrator / Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

Comments and he knows that.

[Democratic Congressmember Dan Goldman]

Gentlemen, gentlemen's recognized now the Oversight Committee is doing an investigation. But you know what? They're not asking for, you know what you did not put in the rule to confirm that investigation. We're not asking for the documents that were used to open the investigation, who provided the information. They're not asking for witness statements, victim witness statements. They're not asking for recordings that may exist. They're not asking for any of the evidence that might include Donald Trump. And rather than acknowledge that you're just trying to cover up for Donald Trump's knowledge and involvement in the Jeffrey Epstein scheme, you're trying to accuse us of being interested.

[Narrator / Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

Then you had Democratic Congress member Jared Moskowitz, he calls on Jim Jordan to why don't you appoint James Comer, why don't you appoint James Comer that we should have a handwriting expert? Because if Donald Trump say it's not his signature on the birthday card, let's go find out what happened because of someone out there forging a signature because it certainly looks like the exact signature on everything he was signing during that time period. Here's Congressmember Moskowitz play this clip.

[Democratic Congressmember Jared Moskowitz]

I'm here to defend him as by far the best investigator of all time in the Capitol, which is exactly why all of his investigations, which have used, you know, Chinese informants that were prosecuted and Russian disinformation, people from prison, I mean, he, the main thing he was tasked with last year, right, which was the Biden impeachment. We had a vote. Oh, no, we never had a vote on that because of course, he didn't find any evidence. So this morning, our close personal friend Mr. Comer said that he was not going to look into the letter or the doodle, the president's doodle. He's A decent doodler, by the way. So he wasn't going to look into whether the signature was a forgery. And I'm concerned about that because this is the President of the United States. If there are forgeries or forgers out there, I think we should investigate it. And in fact, this document is 22 years old. So you're telling me someone 22 years ago went back to the future and forged his signature when he was a Democrat, and somehow this person was Nostradamus, knew he would become a Republican, become president 22 years later. So, listen, I submit to you that we can solve this problem for the American people. You don't have to take my word for it. You don't have to take our dear personal friend Mr. Comer's word for it. Let's bring in a signature expert. You guys pick the witnesses, bring in your signature experts, swear them under oath, and let's have the signature examined. Is it his or it is not his? We don't have to play games. Or the president says it's not his, we say it's him. No, no, let's bring in a signature expert, a referee, because we can't agree on anything, even when it's right in our face of whether that is indeed the President's signature or if it's a forgery, we should immediately open up an investigation into this forgery.

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[Narrator / Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

Once again, Congressmember Moskowitz on Mike Johnson. Now he goes, wait a minute. Now, Mike Johnson said that Donald Trump was an informant. And now Mike Johnson is saying that Donald Trump misspoke. So Donald Trump was not an informant. How do you misspeak about the word informant?

[Democratic Congressmember Dan Goldman]

That's.

[Narrator / Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

What did he mean, undercover? Okay, the speaker of the House, the number three position in line for the presidency, just said the President was an FBI informant. I know our mind gets numb and perhaps all the deluge of Trump lies has turned some people's minds into brain rot, but hello, here. The speaker of the House just said the President was an FBI informant. Huh? Here, play this clip.

[Democratic Congressmember Jared Moskowitz]

You know, just following up on a little bit of what the ranking member was discussing. There was a significant event this week in which this committee has jurisdiction over the speaker of the House. The third highest ranking US Official, third in line to be the President, looked into the TV cameras and told us that the current President of the United States was an FBI informant. I consider that to be gigantic news. And I'm just curious, have we reached out to the FBI to Kash Patel to. To confirm whether the President was at any time an FBI informant? I only say that because the speaker of the House obviously gets significant briefings. He gets briefings that we do not get as regular members. And so I think this is something that we need to hear definitively. Before Cash Patel comes, we should clear up. Maybe we should send a letter to him to find out if the President was an informant and if he was an informant. Is that because he was working with the FBI after he was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein? Did he turn because he got caught with Jeffrey Epstein? You know, when you're an FBI informant, there are lots of questions about how you became an FBI informant. And then how long was he an FBI informant? When did his service to the FBI stop? You know, being a member of the deep state? When did he stop doing that? I mean, look, any. If a regular member had said this, I would discount it, but the speaker of the House is the one who said it. And then he said afterwards, well, I may have misspoke, but what was his misspeak instead of informant? Did he mean agent? I Mean, what is the misspeak for informant? I mean, I don't know another word that we use when we're describing an FBI agent or FBI informant or undercover. I mean, what was the misspeak here? And if he was lying then, is he lying now? I'm just confused. Perhaps maybe the speaker should come to our committee and tell us what he meant when he said that. It's just order. I'm still speaking, Mr. Chairman. I'm still speaking.

[Narrator / Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

Is there a bill or an amendment on the floor?

[Democratic Congressmember Jared Moskowitz]

Strike the last word.

[Narrator / Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

Can we just pull back for us? I mean, just think about, in any presidency, like, I think about Watergate, I think about Iran Contra. I mean, I think about Whitewater and Clinton and Lewinsky. I, I think about Obama when it was a tan suit gate. You know, I think about all the coverage that Biden got. Could you imagine, just imagine if Nancy Pelosi went up there and said, you know, Biden was an FBI informant? We'd be like, we'd be like. We'd be like, what? What? He's an FBI inform. Hello. I think we'd want some additional facts there. What are we talking about here? Congresswoman Crockett, though, was ready to unleash more against the MAGA Republicans. And she goes, look, I don't care. You Democrat, Republican, independent, red, blue, purple, orange, green, yellow, whatever. We should, on a bipartisan basis, want to help these survivors. The survivors want to release one of the things that Trump ran on and Cash Patel and all these people. They were going to release the files. Okay, release them here, play this clip.

[Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

It's frustrating because we talk about being fiscally responsible and we talk about free speech. And right now, as we're having these discussions, you know who's trying to shut down members from voting in the way that they want to vote? It's the president who literally said he would look at anyone who decided that they were going to vote to release the Epstein files. That as hostile. That sounds like a threat as it relates to all First Amendment protections, in addition to the fact that it's literally contravening our constitutional duty that we swore an oath to because we don't swear to an orange king. Instead, we have sworn an oath to the Constitution and we were elected to represent the people that elected us. Thank you so much.

[Narrator / Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

More from Congresswoman Crock right here. She's like, Republicans called a hearing on free speech, but Trump and Republicans made it clear they don't believe in it. Because if you talk about Epstein right now, they say that's a Hostile act against the regime. It's a hostile act against the regime. To talk about Epstein, what are we doing here, folks? Here, play this clip.

[Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

I think they all deserve to lose their seats. I mean, at the end of the day, we swear an oath to the Constitution and we swear to God to serve and to protect Americans. And right now, as you just had a conversation about this administration that is not attacking enemies, but has decided that it wanted to be an enemy towards its own American people, this is yet another attack on us. And what type of precedent is it setting? What is it telling those that are suffering right now as victims? As it relates to our elected officials, it says that so long as you have enough money and or power, then you will be protected and not the most vulnerable amongst us. We are talking about people that were children. You played A clip of Ms. Farmer who talked about her as well as her sister that were abused in the 90s and they reported this and unfortunately nothing happened to the extent that we had survivors that were giving us testimony as late as 2008 when he was absolutely supposed to be incarcerated in Florida, yet he was still somehow managing to abuse women. We have to stand up. I don't know who's in these files. I don't know if they're Democrats, Republicans or Independents. I don't know if there are donors to any specific campaigns. I have no idea. And honestly, it just doesn't matter. What matters is about doing better for not only these women, but for future generations.

[Narrator / Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

And I gotta highlight Congresswoman Crockett. Here she goes. You know, it's funny, these MAGA Republicans, they shout America first, but they're always putting America last. Like they're taking SNAP and food assistance away from children.

[Democratic Congressmember Jared Moskowitz]

Who does that?

[Narrator / Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

MAGA Republicans. Here, play this clip.

[Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

These people hate it when American families have access to health care. They hate it when American families have access to healthy foods. They hate it when American families have access to affordable housing. They hate it when American families have access to affordable childcare. Because these people simply hate America. Nearly everything they have done makes Americans less safe and less healthy. The consequences of their actions are simple. More children will die and have. More children will go hungry. More children will live in extreme poverty. More children living with disabilities will lose access to school based therapies and services. So, Dr. Fink, you're here to rubber stamp this agenda, an agenda that's so unpopular, the the Republicans are deciding to cheat in next year's elections.

[Narrator / Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

Powerful clip right there. And then I wanted to show you, like, how are the MAGA Republicans responding. Well, you've got James Comer calling Democratic Congress member Robert Garcia, who now heads the House Oversight, who now is the Democratic ranking member of the House Oversight Committee. Comer calls Garcia a drama queen because he's such a drama queen. And then Garcia's like, you calling me a drama queen because I'm gay. Like, are you just being anti gay now? Why am I being a draw? I'm being a drama queen because I'm on the oversight committee and I'm doing oversight, and I'm making sure that there are subpoenas going out to get the Epstein birthday book and to hold anybody who was affiliated with it accountable. That makes me a draw, a drama queen. I mean, just think about it. You had James Comer spending years bringing in Russian spies and Chinese spies who then, like, got indicted as character witnesses. Actual spies were the where the was comers witnesses against like, Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, like foreign assets. But you're saying that Congressman Garcia is a draw, is a drama queen because he's. He's forcing subpoenas to get the birthday book you talking about? Here, play this clip.

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Can you give us a comment about.

[Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

The Epstein documents being released and what else is under review right now?

[Republican Congressman James Comer]

Well, the Epstein documents are released because I subpoenaed the estate for the documents. That's why we have the document. So I know the media has been obsessed with the. The discharge petition. The discharge petition didn't even cover the estate. This is a serious investigation, just like I said it would be. We're going to be transparent. I think we got the documents uploaded last night on the computer. It takes, you know, a few hours. Obviously, when they send out. When I subpoena documents, they send them to the Republicans and the Democrats, of course, you know, the Democrats, they, they. They find one thing in there and they promote it and try to get a narrative. This investigation is about providing justice and accountability for the victims and the Democrats. You know, it's really disappointing to see how they've acted. I mean, Garcia, he's been on the job for about two weeks. He's proven to me to just be a real big drama queen because this is all about providing transparency to the American people and justice for the victims. It's not about scoring political point. So hopefully he'll mature up and get serious about the investigation. We've got a lot more documents we expect to get in. We're going to bring a lot of people in for deposition. So this investigation is moving along very rapidly, and hopefully we'll get some answers and some justice very soon.

[Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

Do you think that.

[Narrator / Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett]

I just can't believe he. He went drama queen. He went drama queen. I mean, there's no. There's no low. But, you know, when you're. When they're exposed, they squeal the loudest. Huh? When they're exposed, they squeal the loudest and comer. Squeals. Squealy. Colbert hit. Subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers. Love this video. Support independent media and unlock exclusive content ad free videos and custom emojis by becoming a paid member of our YouTube channel today. You can also gift memberships to others. Let's keep growing together.