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Was in Poland right there. Poland sending a major pro democracy, pro European Union message as well. Earlier yesterday there was the Romania elections where the pro democracy, pro EU candidate went on to become the president. This was the first round voting in Poland, the next round scheduled for June one. And the pro democracy liberal Warsaw Mayor Rafal Trusowski is going to go on to win that first round against the far right wing candidate Nurwaki, who many people expected. The far right wing rival who's a MAGA candidate who sucks up to Donald Trump, he calls himself like the Trump of Poland. People thought Carolina was going to win. Now we go to this second round on June 1st. We're going to of course be paying a lot of attention to that here on the Midas Network. Let me just share with you what Carol Nawraqi had campaigned on. You'll see. You know, it's just constantly talking about Trump this, Trump that. I'm the MAGA candidate. So here was a speech that he gave. Here, play this clip.
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And again, this was an obvious repudiation of the Trump MAGA candidate. And again we reported yesterday how in Romania the far right wing candidate Simeon was expected to go on and win. Originally the odds were that the right wing candidate was going to win. You then had the centrist candidate who was the mayor of Bucharest went on to win in Romania. We did a whole video on that as well. One of the things that I think was very important in this Polish election was Mayor Rafal Trzowski ran on a strong pro Ukraine platform, anti Putin platform, as well as building the military forces up in Poland, creating a first class military to stop Vladimir Putin. I want to share with you. I thought this was an important moment because the views of Rafael Trozowski mirror the Prime Minister Donald Tusk. I'll explain how the Poland government works. A very confused prime minister president. But here was Donald Tusk recently. Let's play this clip. I mean here he is talking about standing up to Putin. And when Putin didn't show in Istanbul, Turkey, I think it was a big sign that impacted this election as well. Remember how I reported on how Putin and Trump said they were gonna go to Istanbul to negotiate with Zelensky? Zelensky showed up in Istanbul, but Putin and Trump didn't. Here, let's play this clip of Donald Tusk.
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We met again after a few days in the same format with President Zelensky. We spoke on the phone with President Trump. To summarize the negotiation attempts that started in Istanbul, the information was clear. The Russian side did not show goodwill. The Russian side did not intend to negotiate in the presence of the American side. The Russian side once again set conditions that were absolutely unacceptable not only to Ukraine, but also to all of us. We will continue to work together. The main task is to maintain full unity both of European and American partners around the Ukrainian issue. This task remains current. Either we do not hide that the Russian position, it is hard to call it constructive in any way. We are likely facing very difficult days ahead.
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So in Poland's parliamentary system they have a prime minister who's the head of government and a president who is the head of state. I would say the prime minister has more day to day power. The president as head of state kind of functions as a veto power over the prime minister. So currently the prime minister, Donald Tusk, very similar political background, I would say to Rafael Trusowski. And then when it comes to this MAGA candidate right here who did not win this round, although let's be clear, there's a second round, Karel Nairaki. I think his views mostly align, I guess more closely with Duda, who's the current president. Although Nairaqi, the guy who's running right now is independent. But the party of the current president Duda is supporting is aligning with this far right candidate, Narwaki, right here. I want to show you this as well, just to show you the positions of the current government in Poland that I think, especially with the threats being posed by Donald Trump, think it's very effective. Here we have Poland's Foreign Minister Sikorski. You probably have seen some other speeches I've played of Foreign Minister Sikorsky before, but here he is about two or three weeks ago talking about how, look, if Ukraine stops fighting, there's no more Ukraine. If Russia stops fighting, the war ends. And that's what we have to remember. And he said we need to prevail on the rest of the world. And he said Donald Trump needs to recognize what's really going on here? Play this clip.
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Let us remember that this war ends if Putin stops fighting. If Ukraine stops fighting is the end of Ukraine. So what needs to be done is to give Putin reasons to end this catastrophic criminal invasion. And we hope that President Trump comes round to our view.
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And about two or three weeks before that, you also had this moment for both the EU and from Poland's foreign minister. Let's play this other clip.
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We have to put the pressure, the maximum pressure on Russia to, to really end this war. Because it takes two want peace, it only takes one to want war. And we see that Russia really wants war. And all those who want the killing to stop should put the maximum pressure on Russia.
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I just want to say how appalled I am by the latest spate of Russian attacks on Ukraine. Ukraine unconditionally agreed to a ceasefire over a month ago. The heinous attacks on Krivyrik and on Sumy is Russia's mocking answer. I hope that President Trump, the US Administration see that the leader of Russia is mocking their goodwill. And I hope the right decisions are taken.
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You think about the kind of right wing Maga crew, right, whether it was maple Maga lost in Canada, you had Timu Trump lose in Australia, Peter Dutton, Pierre Poliev in Canada, maple Maga. He lost, he lost his seat. Dutton lost his seat. They lost in Romania as we covered yesterday, and now they lost in Poland. First round, we're going to go to the second round on June 1st. And I think people are now seeing how dangerous this far right Maga strain internationally is. We're seeing this across the world. I want to remind you of this incredible speech that Foreign Minister Szarkowski gave at the United Nations. Remember in February or so when Donald Trump had the United States side with Russia and North Korea and Iran against a resolution condemning Russia for its unlawful invasion of Ukraine? Not even abstain. The United States voted with Russia. Remember that? Then you had Foreign Minister Sikowski gave this passion speech in the United Nations. Let's play this clip.
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Excellencies, ladies and gentlemen, I had many ideas for today's speech, but one by one, I discarded them. Here's why. We live in turbulent times. After a short break from history that some of us enjoyed, it has again caught up with us all. In times like these, when the world seems out of joint, when the old seems to be dying, but the new cannot yet be born, what we need is a return to basics, to questions about what's right and what's wrong, what's true and what's false, what's actually happened and what's just a figment of propaganda. Almost exactly three years ago, on March 2, 2022 nations of the world gathered here in a special session. Faced with a straight question whether to condemn, applaud or ignore Russia's invasion of Ukraine, their answer was clear. The measure condemning Vladimir Putin's actions was adopted by a vote of 141 in favor, with 35 abstentions. An unequivocal reaffirmation of our commitment to Ukraine's sovereignty, independence, unity and territorial territorial integrity. Only five countries voted against. Among them Russia, Belarus, North Korea, and representatives of the now deposed Syrian regime.
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Here he is again. Let's play it.
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Opinions in this body began to shift not because facts have changed. They are changing because of self interests. Some of our member states now seem to believe that ending the war at any cost and restoring business as usual with Russia will be beneficial. As a representative of the country neighboring both Russia and Ukraine, I can tell you it will not. By normalizing relations with Moscow, you'd Be entrusting your security and economic stability to an autocrat and a war criminal in an international environment much more unstable than it was a decade ago. Russian victory, may it never come, would not create a more just global order. It wouldn't benefit countries that dissatisfied with where things stand now. It wouldn't even bring about a more just and prosperous Russia. Suffice to say, there are now more political prisoners in Russia than there were in the 1980s when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan. There are many more casualties as well.
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And here he is again. Let's play this other clip we've just heard.
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Another performance by the Russian ambassador consisting of lies, propaganda and hypocrisy. He referred to Ukraine as a project. Ukraine is not a project. Ukraine is a country with a longer history than Russia. Ukraine is a member of this body for far longer than the Russian Federation. Ukraine has a history, language, identity and aspirations all of its own. With borders confirmed several times in treaties by the Russian Federation. The mission of this body, from its foundation, has been to decolonize, not to recolonize. International community cannot appease aggression because violence reproduces by indifference. Basic facts that prompted our strong, unified reaction three years ago have remained unchanged. And when the facts don't change, we should stick to our guns. Poland, of course, supports peace, but peace that is stable and with justice for the victim of aggression. Thank you very much.
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So there you have it, folks. Oh, let me play this as well. Former President Biden, very popular in Poland, February 2023. He gave this incredible speech. Let's play it.
Joe Biden
We're seeing again today what the people of Poland and the people across Europe saw for decades. Appetites of the autocrat cannot be appeased. They must be opposed. Autocrats only understand one word. No. No. No. No. You will not take my country. No, you will not take my freedom. No, you will not take my future. And I'll repeat tonight what I said last year in the same place. A dictator, Ben, on rebuilding an empire, will never be able to ease the people's love of liberty. Brutality will never grind down the will of the free. And Ukraine. Ukraine will never be a victory for Russia. Never.
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That speech was in Warsaw. And now you know the Warsaw mayor is currently running for the presidency. And you saw right there that he did win the first round. Mayor Rafael Czarowski. All right, so where do we go from here? June 1st is the second round. It'll just be a runoff now between Rafal Strozowski and Carolina Rocki. We'll be following it every step of the way here, but I want you to be able to make these connections and internationally about what's happening. But hit subscribe let's get to 5 million subscribers. Thanks for watching. Love this video. Continue the conversation by following us on Instagram. It's touch and help US blow past 1 million followers.
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Episode: Furious Poland Destroys Trump in Surprise Election
Release Date: May 19, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Podcast Description: Combining brotherly banter with unapologetic support for democracy, the Meiselas brothers deliver engaging political commentary and deep discussions, making the MeidasTouch Podcast a go-to destination for millions of listeners and top political leaders worldwide.
The episode delves into the recent Polish elections, highlighting a significant political shift. Host 2 begins by setting the stage:
"Poland sending a major pro-democracy, pro-European Union message as well. Earlier yesterday there was the Romania elections where the pro democracy, pro EU candidate went on to become the president." (00:34)
Poland is heading into the second round of voting scheduled for June 1st. The pro-democracy liberal Warsaw Mayor, Rafał Trusowski, has advanced past the first round, defeating the far-right candidate, Karel Nairaki, who positions himself as the "Trump of Poland."
Drawing parallels with Romania, Host 2 notes:
"In Romania, the far-right wing candidate Simeon was expected to go on and win. Originally the odds were that the right-wing candidate was going to win. You then had the centrist candidate, who was the mayor of Bucharest, go on to win in Romania as well." (02:12)
This comparison underscores a broader European trend where pro-democracy candidates are overcoming far-right contenders, challenging expectations and reshaping the political landscape.
Host 2 expands on the rise of MAGA-aligned candidates beyond the United States:
"Now you think about the kind of right-wing MAGA crew, right, whether it was MAGA lost in Canada, you had Timu Trump lose in Australia, Peter Dutton, Pierre Poilievre in Canada, MAGA lost in Romania as we covered yesterday, and now they lost in Poland." (09:07)
These international losses signal a waning influence of the MAGA movement globally, as voters reject far-right ideologies in favor of pro-democratic leadership.
Rafał Trusowski's campaign is characterized by a robust pro-Ukraine stance and a commitment to strengthening Poland's military capabilities. Host 2 emphasizes:
"Mayor Rafał Trzowski ran on a strong pro-Ukraine platform, anti-Putin platform, as well as building the military forces up in Poland, creating a first-class military to stop Vladimir Putin." (02:12)
This approach aligns closely with Prime Minister Donald Tusk's policies, fostering unity against Russian aggression and supporting Ukraine's sovereignty.
The episode features several influential clips that reinforce the pro-democracy and anti-MAGA narratives:
Donald Trump Supporting Karel Nairaki:
"Donald Trump is supporting Karel Nairaki." (02:04)
Donald Tusk on Russia and Unity:
"We will continue to work together. The main task is to maintain full unity both of European and American partners around the Ukrainian issue." (04:00)
Poland's Foreign Minister Sikorski at the UN:
"We live in turbulent times. When the old seems to be dying, but the new cannot yet be born, what we need is a return to basics..." (10:18)
"Ukraine is a country with a longer history than Russia. Ukraine is a member of this body for far longer than the Russian Federation." (13:27)
Joe Biden's Speech in Warsaw:
"Appetites of the autocrat cannot be appeased. They must be opposed. Autocrats only understand one word. No." (15:03)
"Ukraine will never be a victory for Russia. Never." (15:58)
These speeches collectively emphasize resistance against authoritarianism, support for Ukraine, and the rejection of MAGA-aligned policies.
Host 2 synthesizes the international repercussions of these electoral outcomes:
"I think people are now seeing how dangerous this far-right MAGA strain internationally is. We're seeing this across the world." (09:07)
The decline of MAGA-style candidates in multiple countries signifies a global pushback against far-right ideologies, reinforcing democratic values and international solidarity against aggression.
With Rafał Trusowski leading in the first round, the anticipation builds for the June 1st runoff against Karel Nairaki. Host 2 concludes:
"June 1st is the second round. It'll just be a runoff now between Rafal Strozowski and Carolina Rocki. We'll be following it every step of the way here..." (15:58)
The MeidasTouch Network commits to providing comprehensive coverage of the impending election, encouraging listeners to stay informed and engaged.
This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast highlights a pivotal moment in Polish politics, reflecting a broader international trend against far-right MAGA-inspired movements. Through detailed analysis, impactful speeches, and the hosts' insightful commentary, listeners gain a nuanced understanding of the forces shaping modern democracies. The upcoming second round in Poland promises to further solidify the direction of the nation's future, with the MeidasTouch Network poised to document and discuss its developments.