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Day two of the meeting between Donald Trump's Department of Justice and Ghislaine Maxwell just wrapped up. The meeting took place in the Tallahassee Federal Courthouse. Of course, Ghislaine Maxwell is serving a 20 year plus prison sentence in Tallahassee, Florida for her conviction of sex trafficking with Jeffrey Epstein. Ghislaine Maxwell left this meeting with her attorney David Oscar Marcus feeling very good, very positive about the developments from this meeting with Donald Trump's Department of Justice. Feeling good that there may be a pardon or a commutation or a retrial in her future. Very confident words coming from her and her attorneys. Following this meeting, it should be noted that Donald Trump's number two at the Department of Justice who met with Ghislaine Maxwell and Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer, a guy by the name of Todd Blanche is now the Deputy Attorney General, was also Donald Trump's criminal defense attorney. And Todd Blanche, Donald Trump's former criminal attorney, has a very close relationship and personal friendship with delay Maxwell's lawyer, David Oscar Marcus. It was also rumored that David Oscar Marcus was being considered to be one of Donald Trump's criminal defense attorneys a few years back. Now, you will recall the message yesterday posted by Todd Blanche, Donald Trump's former criminal defense attorney number two at the Department of Justice where Blanche said, today I met with Delane Maxwell. I will continue my interview of her tomorrow. The Department of Justice will additional information about what we learned at the appropriate time. That is already very suspicious. So is there audio recordings? Are there transcripts? Why are we not getting that information now? Also, this is not the information we are requesting. We want the files, not information from a lying sex trafficker in Ghislaine Maxwell. If anything, we want to hear from the victims. You want to hear from people like Maria Farmer and, and Jane Doe and other people who were actually victimized by Epstein and Delaine Maxwell. Why are we putting the sex trafficking liar on the pedestal as someone who's meeting with the number two at the Justice Department. Now here's how they're reporting about it on fox, about a very positive and productive meeting by the sex trafficker Elaine Maxwell and Donald Trump's former criminal defense attorney number two at the doj. Here's how it was reported and you'll hear from David Oscar Marcus, Ghislaine Maxwell's attorney. Here, play this clip.
David Oscar Marcus
He's got the latest from Washington for us. So, David, what else did Maxwell's attorney say?
Donald Trump
Well, he said a lot.
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We wish we could be in and hear what was said in the actual meeting. This meeting was a lot shorter than.
Donald Trump
It was yesterday, but this was a two day event.
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The highlight though, it appears that her team wants a pardon. Watch. We're going to take one day at a time.
Donald Trump
I know that's very cliche, but it's.
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True because things are happening so quickly. We haven't spoken to the president or anybody about a pardon just yet. And, and no, listen, the president this morning said he had the power to do so. We hope he exercises that power in the right. And just so as our editor in chief Ron Philip Koski writes, and there it is. This whole thing reeks. If you just released all the files, the 300 gigabytes that the FBI and DOJ currently has, which we now know from the Wall Street Journal exclusive, has Donald Trump's name fricking all over it. You don't have to make deals with one of the worst child sex traffickers in history in order to protect Donald Trump. Now, folks, I always come with receipts here at the Midas Dutch network. So when I say that Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche and David Oscar Marcus had a close relationship. Here they are together on Marcus's podcast from June 2, 2024, talking about the close friendship and relationship they have here. Play this clip. And I mean in all seriousness to you, I know a lot of people that have worked with you. I know a lot of people who know you very well. I now consider you a friend and someone who I know pretty well. You are by far the best out there and I'll always say yes to this podcast. Now, folks, you'll also recall from the Wall Street Journal's other exclusive about Donald Trump's birthday card to Jeffrey Epstein back in 2003 relating to Epstein's 50th birthday, where Donald Trump says enigmas never age or enigmas always stay young. And what else did Donald Trump say? Our secrets shall remain secrets forever, my friend. And Donald Trump's like, well, I've never said the word enigma before. That's just not how I talk. Well, also we have multiple clips of Donald Trump using the word. And then we also have here Donald Trump's attorney, Todd Blanch with Delaine Maxwell's lawyer back in that same podcast saying that Donald Trump is an enigma. Here, play this clip. And he called me and we had a good convers. I went with my wife to have dinner with him and his wife a few weeks later and we clicked. You know, he's an enigma. You know, he's an interesting guy. Everybody in this country, many, most people in the world frankly, have a opinion about him. Oh, right. Now, earlier in the day, you will recall that Donald Trump stated that he was considering a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell. To be fair, Donald Trump said, I have the power to do it, but I haven't thought about it, but I could do it. He says, wink, wink, hint, hint. Here, play this clip.
Donald Trump
Would you consider a pardon or a.
Host 1
Commutation for Elaine Maxwell?
Donald Trump
It's something I haven't thought about. It's really something recommended. It's something I'm allowed to do it, but it's something I have not thought about. But you wouldn't rule it out.
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I mean, I just want you to think about the cards that a sex trafficker, Ghislaine Maxwell, holds over Donald Trump. And I want you to think about the context here that the executive branch and the legislative branch controlled by the MAGA Republicans has essentially become a pedophile cover up ring in plain view. They are doing it and they're meeting with Ghislaine Maxwell and they are treating her like she's what, like a foreign leader? Like Like a dignitary or something. And you're sending your number two at the doj. Donald Trump was asked, so what are you hoping that Todd Blanch accomplishes at this meeting with Elaine Maxwell? And then Donald Trump says, well, you all should really be focusing on a coup by Barack Obama. He goes, barack Hussein Obama. And he goes, you should focus on other people who are Epstein's friends. Why aren't you focusing on Larry Summer? Why don't you focus on all these people here? Play this clip.
David Oscar Marcus
What are you hoping Todd Lance gets out of his meeting with.
Donald Trump
Well, I don't know about the meeting. I know it's taking place. And he's a fantastic man. He's a great attorney. And people should really focus on how well the country is doing, or they should focus on the fact that Barack Hussein Obama led a coup, or they should focus on the fact that Larry Summers from Harvard, that Bill Clinton, who you know very well and lots of other friends, really close friends of Jeffrey Summers should be spoken about because, you know, Jeffrey Epstein should be spoken about. And they should speak about them because they don't talk about them. They talk about me. I have nothing to do with a guy.
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Donald Trump continues to say that you should focus on Clinton and focus on all Donald. Donald Trump goes. I have a list of people who know Epstein better than I do. You have the list of people. You have a list. Okay. Where'd you get that list from? Here, play this clip.
Donald Trump
But he's over there now. I don't know exactly what's happening, but I certainly can't talk about partners.
David Oscar Marcus
Can you trust. Can you trust what she's telling him? She's a convicted trafficker who's eager to.
Donald Trump
Get out of prison. Well, you know, he's a professional lawyer. I think he. He's been through things like this before. But, you know, you should focus on Clinton, you should focus on the president of Harvard, the former president of Harvard. You should focus on some of the hedge fund guys. I'll give you a list. These guys lived with Jeffrey Epstein. I sure as hell didn't. Thank you very much.
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And by the way, you will all recall that when Ghislaine Maxwell was on her trial for sex trafficking, Donald Trump was asked if he had any messages for her. This was back in 2020, and Donald Trump said, I wish her well. Here, play this clip. Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison, and a lot of people want to know if she's going to turn in powerful people. And I know you've talked in the past about Prince Andrew and you've criticized Bill Clinton's behavior. I'm wondering, do you feel that she's going to turn in powerful men? How do you see that working out?
Donald Trump
I don't know. I haven't really been following her too much. I just wish her well. Frankly, I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm beach, and I guess they lived in Palm beach, but I wish her well, whatever it is.
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So Donald Trump was then asked about it in this interview with Axios. Why would you say, I wish her well? He's like, I wish her well. I don't. That's just what I say to people here. Play this clip. Mr. President, the other day a reporter asked you about Ghislaine Maxwell. You said, quote, I just wish her well. Frankly, I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach. But I wish her well, whatever it is. Mr. President, Ghislaine Maxwell has been arrested on allegations of child sex trafficking. Why would you wish such a person well?
Donald Trump
I don't know that, but I do know that she has.
Host 1
She's been arrested for that.
Donald Trump
Her friend or boyfriend, Epstein was either killed or committed suicide in jail. She's now in jail.
David Oscar Marcus
Uh huh. Yeah.
Donald Trump
I wish her well. I'd wish you well. I'd wish a lot of people well.
Host 1
Good luck.
Donald Trump
Let them prove somebody was guilty. I mean, you do know that.
Host 1
Oh, so you're saying you hope she doesn't die in jail. Is that what you mean by wish her well?
Donald Trump
Her boyfriend died in jail, are still trying to figure out how did it happen, Was it suicide, Was he killed? And I do wish you well. I'm not looking for anything bad for her. I'm not looking bad for anybody. And they took that.
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And now here's a clip right here of Maria Farmer, one of Epstein and Ghislaine's victims. And here she talks about why are you having these meetings with Ghislaine? Why aren't you having meetings with the victim? Here, play this clip.
David Oscar Marcus
And that's a fact. And, and those same Republicans want it and entertain Ghislaine Maxwell like Tim Burchett wants to entertain her and flash her around and act like we victims should not be heard from. He didn't want to speak to me. He wanted to speak to Ghislaine and give her a voice in an audience. And my little sister is one of her victims and so am I.
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So now here was the report yesterday from CNN who talked about Maxwell returning to prison yesterday while holding a suspicious looking box. Here, play this clip.
David Oscar Marcus
This is video of Maxwell returning to prison just moments after meeting with Trump's deputy attorney general. And you can see her there, actually, if you look closely, she's carrying a box of material. Now Maxwell's attorney says she was forthcoming with every question that Trump's team threw at her today.
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Now here is Virginia Giuffre, who has since died by suicide in Australia. One of Epstein's victims. Now, she was an underage towel girl working at Mar A Lago after being homeless. She was 17 years old. She worked in the Mar A Lago spa as towel girl. Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein lived right down the block. They walked over, they saw Virginia Giuffre, underage towel girl who was homeless, who needed money. That was Epstein's M.O. and said, hey, you want to work with Epstein? And then Epstein started to sex trafficker. Here's Virginia Roberts or Virginia Giuffre in her own words. Play this clip.
David Oscar Marcus
Virginia Roberts was working in the spa at Donald Trump Mar A Lago Club in Palm beach when British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell introduced her to multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein. The training started immediately. I mean, it was everything down to how to give a blowjob, how to be quiet, be subservient, give Jeffrey what he wants. A lot of this training came from Guylaine herself. And being a woman, it kind of surprises you that a woman could actually let stuff like that happen. But not only let it happen, but to groom you into doing it. And then there's Jeffrey who's telling you, I want it this way. No, go slower and don't do that. And do this now, folks.
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Finally, it's worth noting as well, this article from the Sunday London Mirror. This is from 1997 and here's how they wrote about it in 1997. How sweet. Trump's Brit of All right. Just weeks after ditching his second wife, America's best known billionaire Donald Trump has fallen under the spell of a 20 year old English girl. Trump, 50, who has failed in his bid to secure the services of Princess Diana's butler Paul Burrell, was in search of another British trophy when he met London model Anuska de Georgia at a party in Manhattan. Several American millionaires already had their eyes on Anuska, but she was there with Robert Maxwell's daughter Ghislaine, who has introduced several of her attract to the property developer. Do you see what it says there in 1997 that Ghislaine Maxwell was providing several of her attractive friends to Donald Trump and none of his would be rivals. Owned a vast mansion in Florida like Donald does Mar a Lago where I have dined with him and his outgoing wife Marla is enough to make any young girl go weak at the knees. After their meeting, Trump flew madam. They call her Madame. Like a Madam Maxwell. Like a. Like a, like a. Like a pimp or what? Like a Madam Madame Maxwell and the model south to the Sunshine State where all three enjoyed a happy weekend together. When they returned to New York, Anuska was installed in one of Donald's many apartments. And again, I. I don't know if the story's real or not, but that's from 1997 saying Ghislaine was showing attractive friends, her attractive friends to Donald Trump. Donald Trump is close with Ghislaine Maxwell. Photo photo PHOTO photo I mean there's so much there of them together. We'll keep you posted every step of the way. Hit subscribe let's get to 6 million. Thanks for watching.
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The MeidasTouch Podcast: "Ghislaine Puts the Screws in Trump in Final DOJ Meeting" – Detailed Summary
Release Date: July 26, 2025
In this compelling episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosts Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas delve deep into the intricate and controversial interactions between Ghislaine Maxwell and the Department of Justice (DOJ), exploring the potential implications for former President Donald Trump. The episode masterfully combines incisive analysis with the brothers' signature banter, providing listeners with a thorough examination of recent developments surrounding Maxwell's legal battles and her connections to high-profile figures.
The episode kicks off with a detailed account of the two-day meeting held at the Tallahassee Federal Courthouse between Ghislaine Maxwell, a convicted sex trafficker serving a 20-year sentence, and officials from Donald Trump's DOJ. Host Ben emphasizes the unusual nature of this meeting, highlighting that Maxwell left feeling optimistic about possible legal outcomes, including a pardon or commutation.
Notable Quote:
"[00:01] Host Ben: 'Ghislaine Maxwell left this meeting feeling very good, very positive about the developments... confident words coming from her and her attorneys.'"
A significant portion of the discussion centers on the relationship between Maxwell's attorney, David Oscar Marcus, and DOJ's Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanche. The brothers reveal that Blanche, who previously served as Donald Trump's criminal defense attorney, shares a close personal friendship with Marcus—a relationship that raises questions about the DOJ's impartiality.
Notable Quote:
"[03:45] Host Jordy: 'Todd Blanche, Donald Trump's former criminal attorney, has a very close relationship and personal friendship with Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer, David Oscar Marcus.'"
The hosts scrutinize the possibility of Donald Trump intervening to secure a pardon for Maxwell. They dissect Trump's public statements hinting at his willingness to use his presidential pardon power, interpreting them as subtle nods toward influencing the case in Maxwell's favor.
Notable Quotes:
"[07:06] Donald Trump: 'Would you consider a pardon or a commutation for Elaine Maxwell?'
"[07:10] Host Ben: 'We wish we could be in and hear what was said in the actual meeting...'"
"[12:00] Donald Trump: 'I haven't really been following her too much. I just wish her well...'"
The podcast delves into the historical ties between Donald Trump and Ghislaine Maxwell, referencing a 1997 article from the Sunday London Mirror. This article alleged that Maxwell introduced Trump to attractive young friends, hinting at early connections that may have influenced their ongoing interactions.
Notable Quote:
"[15:37] Host Ben: 'Here's how they wrote about it in 1997... Ghislaine was showing attractive friends to Donald Trump and none of his would-be rivals.'"
A critical segment of the episode features voices of Epstein and Maxwell's victims, such as Maria Farmer, who question the DOJ's decision to engage with Maxwell instead of prioritizing victim testimonies. The hosts argue that the focus on Maxwell undermines the victims' experiences and perpetuates the narrative of protecting high-profile individuals over justice.
Notable Quote:
"[13:31] Maria Farmer: 'Why are you having these meetings with Ghislaine? Why aren't you having meetings with the victims?'"
The brothers analyze how mainstream media outlets, like Fox News and CNN, are portraying the DOJ's interactions with Maxwell. They express skepticism about the transparency of these meetings, pointing out the absence of audio recordings or transcripts and the reliance on Maxwell's attorney for updates.
Notable Quote:
"[04:27] Host Ben: 'This whole thing reeks. If you just released all the files... you don't have to make deals with one of the worst child sex traffickers in history.'"
The podcast meticulously examines Trump's public remarks regarding Maxwell, highlighting instances where he expressed well-wishes towards her despite her conviction. The hosts interpret these statements as indicative of Trump's attempt to distance himself from Maxwell while subtly maintaining their connection.
Notable Quotes:
"[12:00] Donald Trump: 'I wish her well. I do wish you well. I'd wish a lot of people well.'
"[13:16] Host Ben: 'Oh, so you're saying you hope she doesn't die in jail. Is that what you mean by wish her well?'"
In their conclusion, Ben, Brett, and Jordy synthesize the episode's discussions, stressing the alarming implications of high-level officials engaging with convicted traffickers. They call for greater transparency and accountability within the DOJ, urging listeners to question the motives behind such meetings and the broader impact on democratic institutions.
Notable Quote:
"[17:35] Host Brett: 'Can't get enough Midas? Check out the Midas Plus Substack for ad-free articles, reports, podcasts, daily recaps from Ron Filipowski and more.'"
This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast provides a penetrating exploration of the convoluted relationships between Ghislaine Maxwell, the DOJ, and Donald Trump. Through meticulous analysis, the Meiselas brothers shed light on potential conflicts of interest, the sidelining of victims' voices, and the possible misuse of political influence to alter legal outcomes. For listeners seeking an in-depth understanding of these developments, this episode serves as an essential resource, blending investigative rigor with engaging discourse.