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Economic Analyst
I do think with the arrival of of the tariff inflation, further progress may be delayed. The SEP doesn't really show further downward progress on inflation this year and that that's really due to the tariffs coming in.
News Host
That was the announcement by the chairman of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell, saying that because of the Trump tariff stuff and all of the Trump economic kind of disaster, they wanted to cut interest rates, but they just don't see inflation coming down. Governor, I want to chat with you about what you're doing in your you actually got a good report in Maryland, Governor Westmore, your governor of Maryland. Governor, I want to play one more clip from you for for what went down today at this press conference with the chairman of the Federal Reserve, Powell. They are lowering their projections now on what the GDP growth was supposed to be. It was supposed to soar. And here's what's happening right now.
Economic Analyst
Let's play it in our summary of economic projections. The median participant projects GDP to rise 1.7% this year, somewhat lower than projected in December, and to rise a bit below 2% over the next two years.
News Host
That's somewhat lower, but it's significantly lower than if Trump just put this on overdrive, let the economy just kind of rock and roll and not interfere with it every day. I want to talk about what you're doing in your state, but first, let's just get your reaction to Trump's policies. It almost feels like you have to fight against this tide right now.
Governor Wes Moore
Yeah, the only certainty we've gotten from this new administration is uncertainty. Right. And I think people are just looking for basic predictability. They're just like, tell me what the situation is and we can find ways to adapt and to adjust on it. But when it changes every day and when you are using tools like tariffs, which are tools, and using it as an ideology the way this administration does and changing numbers every day. And I mean, that leads to a level of uncertainty that I think drives not just markets crazy, but drives all business influence crazy. I mean, the thing that we are trying to do in our state is we have really been focusing on focusing on economic growth, on giving certainty to industries because that can lead to greater levels of employment, it leads to greater levels of economic growth, and also it allows us to diversify our economy off of Washington. And if you're looking at what's happening in the state of Maryland, it's actually working. Even contrary to the headwinds that we're getting from Washington where, where we just announced, if you look at the most recent job numbers, we have now added more jobs in Maryland over the past two years since I've been the governor than the previous administration and the previous governor got during eight years, during two terms. Right. So our focus on things like investing in childcare, our focusing on things like investing in apprenticeship programs and trade programs, our focus on the service year option, which is getting more young people into the workforce, like these things are actually working to drive growth product, particularly private sector growth. But it is without a shadow of a doubt the kind of craziness that we have seen from this new administration is definitely making it harder for our nation's chief executives and, and not easier at all.
News Host
You know. And now what's he saying that he goes, April 2nd is going to be Liberation Day. He says, liberation Day. And this is for real what they're saying. They say they're going to give. Every country is going to get an envelope, but I'm not making this up. And in the envelope it's going to have their tariff number on it. And so the like. Like a game show, right? And then the for real. And then the countries are going to open it up. He goes, not April 1st, because that's April Fool's Day, April 2nd. And then depending on how the countries treat Donald Trump from now until then, they get a number and that's what their tariff is. And then we make a whole kind of show of it. And to your point, it's just like, why? Why?
Governor Wes Moore
For what? This is not a game and you're playing with people's lives. And I think about where our largest trade partner is, Canada, for example, we're at $3 billion of exports that we do with Canada every single year. This past weekend I was speaking with a Canadian ambassador and almost doing essentially my own independent diplomacy with our trade partner, because that level of diplomacy coming from the federal government is now non existent and it's now almost playful. This is serious stuff because this is impacting our businesses, which turns around and impacts our neighborhoods, which turn around and impact our families, which turn around and impact our children. This is not a game. And the re. And the really frustrating thing about it for me is we have people who are in very serious positions who are not serious people. And this has very real consequences on the states that we run and in the communities that we, that we are vowed to protect and that we will protect.
News Host
Tell me what you can about that conversation with your Canadian counterpart or with the Canadian ambassador who you were, who you're speaking to. Because as Donald Trump keeps on talking about annexing the country, which, by the way, they're, they're taking that not just as a joke and not just as a trade war, like, they're viewing that. What they've told me is as like words of actual war on the sovereignty of the country. And we got headlines like this Canadian airline cancels flights to Tennessee and other U.S. routes. I've seen some reports that travel is down as much as 50 to, you know, I saw some reports, 85% leisure travel down first, I guess. What are you seeing in your state regarding that Canadian boycott and what were you hearing from that ambassador that you spoke to?
Governor Wes Moore
Well, a lot of what we're seeing is you're seeing some of the direct impacts on things like the Port of Baltimore, which is one of our nation's, you know, largest, largest, you know, ports. And also you're seeing how trade, where the Port of Baltimore really serves as a, as a real vessel for larger trade all across the country, which has been directly impacted. But who we're also hearing it from is things like chicken farmers on the Eastern Shore who rely on trade from Canada and Mexico and both import and export. We're also hearing it from people like, people who are like, developers who are working on housing. I'm very aggressive when it comes to the opportunities to create more housing inventory because I believe that creating more housing inventory will also drive down housing costs. And so we've been very aggressive on things like transit oriented development and density bonuses and creating incentives, more housing. But when materials are more expensive now because of these arbitrary trade wars we're putting on board, it makes it more complicated for our developers to be able to predict what becomes the cost that we're going to have for, for, for our trade. And so the thing that we're just continuing to lean on our partners and our international partners is basically showing them that here you have consistency, here you have a measure of soberness in the way that we think about the work. And here you have people who are going to put together policies that actually defend our people and not policies that end up actually impacting and hurting our people. And I think there is a real sense of appreciation for that. For that consistent, steady leadership, particularly in atomic chaos.
News Host
One of the things I just wanna make sure we touch upon is I don't really see a lot of other leaders talking about this. And you posted about it and you made it a priority. You've talked about it in your state of the state, also your concern about the men and boys in the state and frankly throughout the country and your commitment to reaching out and you know, just speaking to kind of a lost generation, suicide rates up and depression kind of up. Why has this been a priority to you? What are you hearing? What are you doing?
Governor Wes Moore
You know, a big thing for me is we just, we just follow the data that if you look at the data, you talk about things like the suicide rates, we talk about the fact that college attainment levels for young men and boys were the same now as they were in 1964. Our young men and boys are falling behind. And the problem is, is that I think for so long we've also just been deeply ignored. And for me it's not just, it's not a, you know, some data conversation, it's personal. Right. I'm a kid who grew up and was raised by an immigrant single mom who did not get her first job until with benefits until I was 14 years old. And I'm also a kid who had hand customer risk by the time I was 11. I'm a kid who was, who was, who was sent to a military school when I was 13, joined the army when I was 17 years old, went to a two year college, was a person who came up in communities that were over policed. And we knew it and we knew that the way they oftentimes dealt with young boys was simply by criminalizing us. And so this is a very personal thing for me and something that I knew that, you know, we can't, people can't just wake up to this because they look at election rolls. If you're looking at an election, you caught it too late because that's the tail. We have young men and boys who feel deeply disillusioned by this system because the system has left them behind. And so as a state, we're making a very deliberate effort to be able to address this. I've actually ordered all of my cabinet secretaries and all of my agency heads where this is now a performance indicator for them about what are they doing in their own areas to be able to impact the prospects for young men and boys where we are doing things like putting a core focus of getting more men inside of the classroom, putting a focus on getting more men inside of nursing, the nursing industry, in places where we know there's been a dearth and a pullback from men doing more when it comes to job training and apprenticeship programs, doing more to be able to help the young men who are involved in our juvenile justice system. Because if you look at the juvenile justice system in the state of Maryland and around the country, it is predominantly dominated by young boys. So we've got to get serious about this. And if you care about the growth of, of your communities, if you care about the growth of families, if you care about having more people who are, who are, who are daughters, are going to have the opportunity to be able to have as partners get young boys right. And that's what I think this country has deeply, deeply missed. And so that's why I'm just unapologetic that in the state of Maryland, we're going to make this a real focus about how we think about our work going forward.
News Host
You know, it's great where you when in a world where you hear about things like Doge that's crashing government and attacking people, to actually show people a state government that's actually doing things to help and uplift people. That's why we love having you on. Governor Westmore, thanks for sharing the personal story about your background. I know lots of people know who you are, but I think it's helpful that they, you know, also, also are reminded about how you got to where you are and why that's a part of your commitment. So thanks for joining us as always and of course we'd love to have you back.
Governor Wes Moore
I appreciate you so much and congrats again.
News Host
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Episode Title: Gov. Wes Moore on Trump's Economic Chaos
Release Date: March 20, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Guests: Governor Wes Moore of Maryland
In this compelling episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, the Meiselas brothers engage in an in-depth conversation with Maryland Governor Wes Moore to dissect the ramifications of former President Donald Trump's economic policies. The discussion navigates through the intricacies of tariffs, inflation, GDP projections, and the broader socio-economic challenges facing young men and boys in America today.
The conversation kicks off with an analysis of the current economic climate influenced by Trump's tariff strategies. An Economic Analyst highlights the adverse effects of tariffs on inflation and economic growth:
The News Host elaborates on Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell's stance:
Governor Moore responds by critiquing Trump's approach:
This segment underscores the consensus among economic analysts that Trump's tariff policies have hindered economic stability and growth.
Governor Moore expresses his frustration with the federal administration's unpredictable economic maneuvers:
He emphasizes Maryland's proactive strategies to counteract federal instability:
Governor Moore highlights Maryland's job growth under his administration, surpassing previous records:
The discussion shifts to Trump's controversial announcement of "Liberation Day," signaling arbitrary tariff impositions based on international relations:
Governor Moore vehemently opposes this policy:
He underscores the real-world implications of such policies on Maryland's economy and international trade relations:
Governor Moore details the tangible effects of strained trade relations with Canada, Maryland's largest trade partner:
He shares his proactive engagement with Canadian officials to stabilize trade:
Governor Moore's efforts reflect a commitment to sustaining Maryland's economic health despite federal disruptions.
Transitioning from economic concerns, the conversation delves into Governor Moore's dedication to tackling social challenges, particularly the mental health crisis among young men and boys:
Governor Moore shares a personal connection to the issue:
He outlines Maryland's strategic initiatives to support young men:
Initiatives include enhancing educational opportunities, expanding job training programs, and reforming the juvenile justice system to provide better support for at-risk youth.
The episode concludes with the News Host commending Governor Moore's leadership and personal dedication to his state's prosperity and social welfare:
Governor Moore reiterates his commitment:
This dialogue encapsulates Governor Moore's multifaceted approach to governance, addressing both economic and social issues with vigor and empathy.
Economic Stability Over Turbulence: Governor Moore critiques Trump's tariff policies for fostering economic uncertainty, advocating for predictable and supportive measures to drive Maryland's growth.
Proactive State Leadership: Maryland's strategic investments in childcare, apprenticeship programs, and housing development have yielded significant job growth, surpassing previous administrations.
International Trade Relations: Arbitrary tariff decisions, exemplified by "Liberation Day," have tangible negative impacts on Maryland's trade-dependent industries, prompting Governor Moore to engage in direct diplomacy with trade partners like Canada.
Social Responsibility: Addressing the mental health crisis among young men and boys is a priority, with comprehensive initiatives aimed at education, job training, and juvenile justice reform.
Personal Commitment: Governor Moore's personal history fuels his dedication to creating a stable and supportive environment for Maryland's residents, emphasizing the human impact of policy decisions.
This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast offers listeners a thorough examination of the consequences of Trump's economic policies through the lens of Maryland's leadership. Governor Wes Moore's insights provide a blueprint for effective state governance amidst federal policy unpredictability, highlighting the importance of local initiatives and personal dedication in fostering both economic resilience and social well-being.
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