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Podcast Host
Price void in Florida Hillary Clinton is breaking her silence and she is torching Donald Trump. She gave an incredible interview in New York City and she was not holding back about what she thinks about Donald Trump's collapsing term. First Hillary Clinton mocks Donald Trump for not even knowing where the Strait of Hormuz is on a map. Hillary Clinton's like, you can't make this stuff up. If this was in a movie, you'd walk out, because this wasn't believable. Here, play this clip.
Hillary Clinton
Curiosity about anything going on around him that, like when, you know, he launched the war against Iran and then, you know, out of the White House, you hear that? Nobody told me about the Strait of Hormuz. I mean, nobody told me they could close the Strait of Hormuz. Where is the Strait of Hormuz? You know, you can't make it up. It's like some movie that you walk out of because it's so outlandish.
Podcast Interviewer
Dr. Strangelove.
Hillary Clinton
Yeah, exactly.
Podcast Host
Then Hillary Clinton talks about Donald Trump physically rotting and physically and cognitively deteriorating.
Podcast Interviewer
Let's play it over a long period of time. You've done debated him three times. You've observed him very carefully, obviously. Is he disintegrating?
Hillary Clinton
He just turned 80, I think. He is certainly not what he was. He doesn't come across, at least in the way that he presents himself with as much energy, falls asleep and lots of public meetings. I mean, poor Joe Biden. I mean, shut his eyes once or twice, but Donald Trump is like falling asleep all the time these days. But part of that is he stays up all night posting on True Social. So he's not getting enough sleep anyway, which is pretty disturbing because I don't think people who are sleep deprived make good decisions on top of everything else. But I really think he has a number of traits that have gotten more obvious. He doesn't even try to hide them. His impulsivity, his immaturity.
Podcast Host
Then Hillary Clinton really knows how to get under Donald Trump's skin. She said, of course, Putin was helpful to Donald Trump's election win because Putin knows exactly what kind of weak and pathetic leader Donald Trump is. Let's watch right over here as he's
Podcast Interviewer
basically, I must say he loves you. I have never seen somebody speak so harshly of anyone as to watch Putin speaking about Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton
Well, I wear it as a badge of honor. But it did help. You know, contrary to what you hear from Donald Trump, he did help Donald Trump win, and partly because he knew what kind of leader I would be compared to Donald, whom he knew would not.
Podcast Host
Hillary Clinton explains how she negotiated with Iran and how it's very different from how the Trump regime was so careless and reckless and catastrophic. Here's what she says right here.
Hillary Clinton
I started the negotiations that led to the jcpoa, the agreement that President Obama eventually signed. It was an intensive diplomatic effort. We started by getting the UN Security Council to impose sanctions, global sanctions on Iran, in June of 2010. We then worked to get secret. Negotiations started through Oman and those began with several meetings and with a plan about going forward, which I handed off to my successor, John Kerry. But these were serious negotiations with high level people. So when we sat across a table from Iranians, we had our own nuclear physicists there, as did they. We had experienced diplomats, people who had negotiated on many different fronts for many years. That's not the way this administration does its business. And so I think we have come out weaker. We've caused a lot of both confusion and I think some distrust in the larger region about what our goals were and what our staying power is. So I believe until we see the agreement which allegedly will be signed on Friday in Geneva, we don't know what's in it and we don't know what's left out of it and we don't know how it's going to be spun. But it doesn't seem to me that it's going to an effective maneuver by Trump to claim some kind of victory.
Podcast Host
And here Hillary Clinton really articulates the threat that Donald Trump poses and she talks about a term called domain loss. When you're losing, you don't know the law of holes. So you keep on digging and you keep on digging. Let's play this clip right here.
Hillary Clinton
He does represent the threat of authoritarianism. And the people who, who enable him, who support him, who follow him, have clearly decided that his kind of performance, politics, his deliberate cruelty and behavior that has never been seen by any of us in an American president before is exactly what they want to see for the country. Now, the good news is his favorability is in the mid-30s, people who had supported him not because he was a wannabe authoritarian, but because he promised to lower prices and create a better future for people and their families. They've seen the reality. It doesn't match the rhetoric. And so they have moved away from him. But he is doubling down. He's doubling down on his impulsiveness. And it's very worrisome to me because I'll end with this. You know, I teach at Columbia University now, of course, with the dean there. She and I have been on this stage together, it's called Inside the Situation Room. And we talk about the traits of leaders, their behavior, their psychology. And there is a view that is rooted in how people make decisions, all of us, not just leaders, about what happens when someone finds themselves in what's called the domain of loss. It's a psychological concept. And almost counterintuitively, when people feel they are losing, they very frequently take greater risks, they double down on their behavior. And that's what I'm now worried about because he's lashing out. He's demanding that we accept his version of reality, which is unhinged from the actual world that we live in and the actual consequences of his actions. So I think we have to be extremely vigilant and just ready to push back every chance we get.
Podcast Host
Yeah, I thought that was a very powerful point she raised right there.
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Podcast Host
She then goes on to talk about how the Trump supporters are indeed deplorable. And she said half of them are deplorable, half of them have been misled and defrauded, but half are definitely deplorable. She says, let's watch for yourself.
Hillary Clinton
Of all I said only about half were. So to be fair.
Podcast Interviewer
Well, are you doubling down on deplorables?
Hillary Clinton
Yeah, but you know, I have to say I was. You know, I gave a speech for example about something called the alt right. Which you know, the press had no idea what I was talking about. Certainly the public had no idea what I was talking about. But, you know, I was beginning to see this really disturbing rhetoric, racist rhetoric, sexist rhetoric, you know, the kind of authoritarian, demagogic claims about our politics. And it worried me. So, you know, I tried to kind of put that into the political debate. But I also did try to, you know, draw a line between those who were following him because of that. It wasn't a bug. It was the feature. They wanted to follow someone who was, you know, demeaning. President Obama was, you know, making claims about me, saying things like, you know, the Second Amendment, people will take care of her. I mean, terrible things that were in that campaign against me. And people didn't take it seriously. People were like, oh, that's just Donald. He's just spouting off. Don't worry about it. I saw something darker. But, you know, I was in not the strongest position since I was running against him to make that case. So I was trying to say, look, I understand there are people who believe that kind of stuff, but most of the people, at least half who are, you know, following him, they want change. They are not satisfied with where we are in the country. They want, you know, a different economic reality. He's promising all of this.
Podcast Host
Hillary Clinton then talks about her experience when she was Secretary of State and how Benjamin Netanyahu would try to threaten her. And she, unlike Donald Trump, would stand up to Bibi even from the outset. Here, let's play this clip.
Hillary Clinton
Well, you're absolutely right. When I was secretary, it was a constant theme by Netanyahu and his then government, the then Defense Minister, Ehud Barak, the former Prime Minister. Minister. It was relentless. It was a constant push. I remember.
Podcast Interviewer
What would he say to you?
Hillary Clinton
What?
Podcast Interviewer
What would he say to you?
Hillary Clinton
He would basically say, you need to support us in attacking Iran. And back then, this was, you know, 2009 to the end of 2012,
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Hillary Clinton
had more capacity than Israel did on several fronts to do that. And so there was a constant argument that we would have. And, you know, I remember one day I was on the phone for hours with Ehud, with Bibi, with others. And they would say things like, our planes are on the tarmac. And I'd say, well, good luck. I mean, great. Why are you doing this?
Podcast Interviewer
Where else would planes be other than in the air?
Hillary Clinton
But I'm a tarmac ready to take off.
Podcast Interviewer
I see.
Hillary Clinton
Yes. Although they'd be in the hangar, but they were on the tarmac. And, you know, you would say things.
Podcast Interviewer
You're saying you were being played all
Hillary Clinton
the time, all the time.
Podcast Interviewer
I mean, by an ally that receives an enormous amount of aid.
Podcast Host
Well, of course, she talks about Netanyahu's obsessions. Let's play it.
Hillary Clinton
And look, Bibi's been obsessed as long as I've dealt with him with two things. Iran, as you know, and his desire to normalize relations with Saudi Arabia. The first formal meeting I had with him in 2009, probably March, at the State Department, it was absolutely, how can we get normalization with Saudi Arabia and how do we totally decapitate Iran? And he had this view that I think has become very clear in his dealings with Trump. Number one, decapitate the regime. It will fall. Number two, do enough bombing against enough critical infrastructure, try to disable the military insofar as possible. The people will rise up. And that was just never our read about what was going to happen.
Podcast Host
More on Netanyahu here. Let's play it.
Hillary Clinton
And that has not been uprooted yet. So I think Netanyahu believes that war is his friend because his political standing is under attack from a lot of different directions. And he wants to contain the opposition by creating conflict so that he tries to rally the country behind him. I think this Iran deal may be, you know, the straw that finally breaks that and creates an opening for, you know, his departure in the upcoming elections and, you know, a government that is certainly gonna be very concerned about Israel's security, but might be somewhat more, you know, adept at dealing with these problems in a way that enhances Israel's security.
Podcast Host
Then she talks about what her husband, what Bill Clinton, former President Clinton says, when Donald Trump even says he's gonna run again, she goes, well, Bill Clinton says that he'll run again, too, and beat Donald Trump.
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Let's play it.
Hillary Clinton
Well, David, you and I think alike. I think, number one, if he could figure out a way to stay, he would. My husband likes to say, if he tries to stay, I'm running again. But if that's unlikely, which we have to hope it is, I don't get the feeling he's all warm and fuzzy about J.D. vance.
Podcast Host
And then she was reflective and talked about when she noticed the real threat that Donald Trump posed when he went from this kind of cartoonish character to starting to really gain traction with the conspiracy theories about former President Obama.
Podcast Interviewer
Here.
Podcast Host
Let's play this clip.
Hillary Clinton
Probably when he began to lead a movement questioning Barack Obama's birthright citizenship. And before then, I was not aware I hadn't read Art of the Deal. I hadn't followed some of his public utterances. You Know, he allegedly told the man who helped him or wrote the art of the deal, the only book he had on his bedside was Mein Kampf. I did not know that.
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Big seller.
Hillary Clinton
That's right. And he also, he ran full page ads accusing Ronald Reagan of weakness. So there had been a few eruptions that I was unaware of. I kind of viewed him as, you know, exactly the sort of figure you described. But when he began to do the big lie about first Senator Obama, then President Obama, that's when I began to pay attention and wondering what's really behind this? Why is he doing this? And so relentlessly it didn't matter. And you know, I remember talking to President Obama about it and you know, there's an Obama, like so many of us, it's like, ah, who cares? You know, just. I'm not going to respond to that. And what we have learned is how important it is to respond. It used to be you could ignore that kind of, you know, outlandish claim and it wouldn't, you know, last for long, but with the Internet, it lives forever. And so he began to demonstrate his understanding of the new information ecosystem that we're in.
Podcast Host
And finally, here's how Hillary Clinton ended this.
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Let's play it.
Podcast Interviewer
Such a sense of ourselves as Americans, as freedom loving people, and we would defend it to the last. I don't see that that's a universal.
Hillary Clinton
Well, I'm afraid you're right in terms of the acquiescence. And you know, I was in the Senate very proudly representing New York for eight years. There are still people on the Republican side I served with there. I don't talk to them, but my former Democratic colleagues report to me. They go into the cloak room, they're in the hallway.
Podcast Interviewer
But aren't you sick about hearing about what they say in the cloakrooms?
Hillary Clinton
I am really sick of it. I'm very sick of it. Because they are betraying the kind of weakness that is undermining of a great country and our institutions because they won't stand up to them unless they're on their way out. Why not?
Podcast Interviewer
Are these jobs so great that you can't.
Hillary Clinton
For some people they are. So for some people it's simply staying in power, being able to feel like they are important. For some people, it's literal threats. The only person I know who spoke publicly about this was Lisa Murkowski. And basically if you are threatened the way some of these people are threatened and their families are threatened, and you think you can, you may be rationalizing, but you think, well, I can try to reign in more if I stay on the inside. So I can be against, but I can't be against too much. That's one thing. But the people who are in positions of great economic power, like the tech companies and other large businesses, have been so disappointing in the way that they have basically aligned themselves with Trump. Trump policies. And in large measure, I guess, because they think, quote, it's good for their business. And what I have said privately and publicly is you are making a grave mistake because you may think it's good for your business today, but somebody who offers a bigger bribe, because, make no mistake, these transactional deals they're making are nothing but bribes. You support me or you don't get this contract, you do support me, you're going to get that contract. These are bribes that is in the constitution as an impeachable offense. And so part of what I see happening is men, and they're all men basically convincing themselves they have to do this for the business. But what they're not appreciating is that this kind of unchecked, unaccountable power can turn and bite them just as easily. You saw it. You saw it in Russia. You saw the transition from the collapse of the Soviet Union and you saw the, you know, the oligarchs being, being formed, the privatization. But then when Putin came along, it was, I want 5%. No, I now want 25%. I want 50%.
Podcast Host
There you have it, folks. Let me know what you think. Powerful indeed, huh? Everybody hit subscribe. Let's get to 7 million subscribers. And thanks for watching, everybody.
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Date: June 17, 2026
Host: MeidasTouch Network (Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas)
Special Guest: Hillary Clinton
In this incisive episode, the MeidasTouch brothers spotlight a fiery interview with Hillary Clinton recorded live in New York City. Clinton offers candid, often biting, commentary on Donald Trump’s presidency, current state, and the broader threats to American democracy. She draws upon her experience as a former Secretary of State and presidential candidate, critically analyzes current global and domestic political realities, and leaves no stone unturned in her criticisms of Trump, his supporters, and enabling institutions. The episode is packed with powerful quotes, personal anecdotes, and a call to action for vigilance in defense of democracy.
The episode is direct, witty, and occasionally humorous, but always urgent and impassioned. Clinton does not mince words about Trump’s dangers, the responsibility of institutions, or the stakes for American democracy. The MeidasTouch brothers expertly guide the conversation with incisive questions, ensuring the most powerful and newsworthy soundbites are highlighted.
For listeners and non-listeners alike, this episode is essential for understanding Hillary Clinton’s perspective on the current political moment, her experiences with global leaders, and her warning for the years ahead.