Ivana Haunts Trump From Grave as Past Revealed!!!

Summary

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The MeidasTouch Podcast

Episode: Ivana Haunts Trump From Grave as Past Revealed!!!

Date: May 10, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosted by the Meiselas brothers, delves into the legacy and controversies surrounding Ivana Trump, Donald Trump’s first wife. The hosts examine the suspicious circumstances of Ivana’s death, her burial at Bedminster, her connections to Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, allegations from her divorce with Trump, and counterintelligence investigations into her links with the former Czechoslovakian secret police. Interspersed throughout are archival interviews, personal testimonies, and direct readings from primary sources. The episode’s tone mixes somber reporting with indignation at the Trump family’s treatment of Ivana and their web of political and social connections.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ivana Trump's Mysterious Death and Burial

• Timestamps: 01:15–02:50
  • Ivana Trump died under what the hosts call "very mysterious circumstances" on July 14, 2022.
  • Found unresponsive after allegedly falling down spiral stairs at her Manhattan apartment.
  • Official cause: blunt impact injuries to the torso; manner of death: accidental.
  • Ivana's burial at Trump’s Bedminster golf course described as "ghoulish" and disrespectful, located behind the first tee, surrounded by shrubs, and "cast aside."
• Quote (Host, 01:40): "They just again, like just kind of put it aside... It's so utterly ghoulish what the Trump family has done to Ivana."

2. Ivana Trump’s Social Circles and Epstein Connections

• Timestamps: 02:50–04:30, 16:27–18:19

  • Recently, Ivana's name appeared in newly released Epstein files; she was reportedly close friends with Ghislaine Maxwell.
  • Excerpt from Hollywood publicist Peggy Seagal’s 2009 email about Ivana's declining health and connections to the Epstein crowd.
  • Epstein survivor Maria Farmer recounts seeing Ivana often with Ghislaine Maxwell and Donald Trump with Epstein, highlighting their frequent proximity and unsettling interactions.

• Quote (Maria Farmer, 16:27): "Ivana Trump was like her best friend."

• Quote (Maria Farmer, 17:41): "[Ghislaine] would drive by schools... She would get out, and so would Ivana."

• Quote (Maria Farmer, 17:53): "I'll never forget because... they went one day. I was really weirded out by what had happened... Ghislaine shut me up, gave me one of those cheap bracelets Ivana was selling on QVC."

3. Allegations of Spousal Rape and Divorce

• Timestamps: 05:06–09:52
  • Re-reading of Harry Hurt’s "Lost Tycoon" and recounting Ivana’s sworn deposition where she accused Trump of violent sexual assault.
  • The book’s account is explicit and frames the alleged act as marital rape.
  • Trump and Ivana’s later statements try to soften or walk back the literal interpretation without denying that she felt violated.
  • Harry Hurt emphasizes the sworn nature of Ivana's deposition and links Trump's behavior to unfitness for public office.
• Quote (Harry Hurt, 08:18): "He comes in in a rage and starts pulling Ivana's hair. And then, according to her sworn deposition testimony in their divorce, 'he raped me.'"
• Quote (Ivana Trump statement, 09:14): "As a woman, I felt violated as the love and tenderness which he normally exhibited towards me was absent. I refer to this as a rape, but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense."
• Quote (Harry Hurt, 09:52): "There was nothing they could say because it was sworn testimony by Ivana... evidence to me of a very unstable personality."

4. Ivana’s Reflections on Her Life and Divorce

• Timestamps: 10:30–12:47
  • Ivana’s own words on her privileges after divorce: "I have a beautiful home here. I have a spectacular apartment in Miami. I have a 300-year-old fisherman houses in harbor of Saint Tropez. What more can I have?" (10:30)
  • Interview segment discussing the emotional toll of her divorce and her father's death.
  • Reflections on working for Donald Trump and how it harmed their marriage.
• Quote (Ivana Trump, 11:12): "I was a little bit numb and maybe that helped me also when my father passed away because I just—it just cannot get any worse. It just has to get better."
• Quote (Donald Trump, 12:05): "I think that was the single greatest cause of what happened to my marriage with Ivana."
• Quote (Ivana Trump, 12:29): "...you cannot be a real pussycat [if you have thousands of employees]."

5. Public Personas: Trump and Ivana’s Dynamic in Media

• Timestamps: 13:05–13:33
  • Vintage Oprah clip where Donald Trump jokes that Ivana "does exactly as I tell her to do," greeted with audience discomfort.
• Quote (Donald Trump, 13:19): "There’s not a lot of disagreement because ultimately Ivana does exactly as I tell her to do."

6. Intelligence Investigations and International Connections

• Timestamps: 13:33–15:00
  • Reporting on the Czechoslovakian communist regime’s interest in Trump and Ivana, especially through Ivana's father, Miloš Zelníček, an active informer.
  • US counterintelligence investigated Ivana’s connections during immigration from Communist Czechoslovakia and later to Canada and Austria; FBI files released in 2023 underpin these links.
• Quote (Host, 13:33): "Czechoslovakia ramped up spying on Trump in the late 1980s."
• Quote (Host, 14:29): "Ivana was under FBI counterintelligence inquiry into allegations about her connections..."

7. Financial Footnotes and Final Disrespect

• Timestamps: 15:00–16:27
  • Ivana's opulent townhouse sold for $14 million after a substantial price cut, paralleled to the seeming disregard in her burial.
• Quote (Host, 15:58): "It’s so utterly disgusting... the Trump family buried her in the back lot of Bedminster... in the area of the trees. It’s so utterly disgusting."

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Ivana’s Burial (01:40): "It's just so utterly ghoulish what the Trump family has done to Ivana."
• On Sworn Testimony (08:18): "According to her sworn deposition testimony in their divorce, 'he raped me.'" — Harry Hurt
• On Trump’s Marital Dynamic (13:19): "Ultimately, Ivana does exactly as I tell her to do." — Donald Trump
• On Intelligence Ties (13:33): "The Communist intelligence service in Prague... targeting [Trump] to gain information about the upper echelons of the US government."
• On Epstein Connections (16:27): "Ivana Trump was like [Ghislaine Maxwell's] best friend." — Maria Farmer

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• [01:15] – Introduction of Ivana’s death and burial circumstances
• [02:50] – Epstein files, Peggy Seagal email, Ivana’s later years
• [05:06] – Harry Hurt’s coverage of Ivana’s deposition, allegations of assault
• [09:14] – Ivana Trump’s official statement following rape allegations
• [10:30] – Ivana reflects on life after Trump
• [11:06] – Discussion of divorce, her father's death, personal hardship
• [12:05] – How business entanglements worsened their marriage
• [13:05] – Oprah interview clip showcasing marital dynamic
• [13:33] – Report on Czechoslovak and KGB intelligence connections
• [15:00] – Ivana’s townhouse sale, burial at Bedminster
• [16:27] – Maria Farmer details Ivana and Ghislaine Maxwell’s relationship, creepy behavior

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Episode Tone & Final Reflections

The episode is somber, critical, and investigative. The Meiselas brothers do not hide their disgust at the Trump family’s actions and the narrative around Ivana’s demise, seeking justice through public scrutiny and transparency. Their commentary is factual yet impassioned, aiming to keep listeners aware of the full context and implications—not just for Ivana, but for the broader themes of Trump family conduct, abuse of power, and the importance of accountability in American democracy.

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This summary captures the depth and nuances of the episode, providing context, substance, and key moments for listeners seeking detailed insight without listening to the entire broadcast.

Transcript

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Ivana Trump Donald Trump's first wife and the mother of Eric, Don Jr. And Ivanka well, Ivana is haunting Donald Trump from her grave right now. She is buried in the back lot of Bedminster where according to the latest photographs from the Daily Mail, it was the burial site was surrounded by all of these shrubs and was kind of cast aside. It's just so utterly ghoulish what the Trump family has done to Ivana. But as you'll recall, she died under very mysterious Circumstances back on July 14, 2022. She was found unresponsive in her Upper east side Manhattan apartment after allegedly falling down a steep set of spiral stairs. You see right here those spiral stairs which it's alleged that she was walking down and then slipped and fell. And then paramedics allegedly responded to a call for cardiac arrest around 12:30pm and pronounced her dead at the scene. The New York of the Chief Medical examiner ruled the cause of death blunt impact injuries to the torso from the fall and the manner of death was called accidental. You'll remember the scene where then her alleged casket was moved and then it was transferred to Bedminster. You can see on this map right here where it was buried in Bedminster. It's kind of like right behind the first T, kind of in like the, like the foresty area. I mean, they just again, like just kind of put it aside and like the, in that area. But let's talk about what's going down because, you know, her name appeared recently in the Epstein files as well. We know that she was friends with Ghislaine Maxwell. She was described as being close friends with Ghislaine Maxwell. And also as Donald Trump continues to go out of his way to help Vladimir Putin, there are indeed connections in the form of investigation that was actually taking place, counterintelligence investigations into potential connections of Ivana in Czechoslovakia, where her father was allegedly working in the intelligence services there. And then Donald Trump and Ivana took a very suspicious trip to Russia in 1987 with a KGB sponsored group and they were given a tour there. But you take a look at some of these documents from the Epstein files, like this message right here from Hollywood publicist Peggy Seagal to Jeffrey Epstein. This is in 2009 about Donald Trump's ex wife Ivana. Here's what this email said that's been surfacing lately. It says, on the way to Club 55 for the last time, it says, saw Ivana Trump last night. She is a shell of the gal. She was from all of the booze, very sad, barely recognizes her friends. Joan Collins holding court, have to schlep to her mountaintop cabin for cocktails, got out of dinner. So she's mentioned that way, you know. And then of course there is the interview that Donald Trump gave recently with CBS where. Well, I'll just show you what he said after the manifesto surfaced from the individual who they were alleging was the shooter in the D.C. correspondence dinner. Here, play this clip of what Donald Trump said. Just to remind you, you're horrible people.

[Donald Trump]

Horrible people. Yeah, he did write that. I'm not a rapist. I didn't rape anybody.

[Maria Farmer]

Oh, you think he was referring to you?

[Donald Trump]

Excuse me, I'm not a pedophile. You read that crap from some sick person. I got associated with stuff that has nothing to do with me.

[Narrator/Host]

Now, I want to give you a trigger warning here, but as Donald Trump said that you can see what was going on in his mind because the Last tycoon, a biography of Donald Trump. And it's called the Lost Tycoon, rather the Many Lives of Donald Trump by Harry Hurt. And here's what was described in this book by Harry Hurt. And again, trigger warning right here. This is about Ivana Trump. Ivana Trump has been relaxing in the master bedroom of the Trump Tower Triplex Thinking about the trips you will be going to take to Tahiti. The trip will not just be for a vacation. It has to do with the Donald's business. Laurie Eddis, the widow of late Trump Gaming Division executive Mark Eddis, will be going with her. Ivana has been hoping the trip will help them get over the tragedy of the helicopter crash. Suddenly, according to Ivana, the Donald storms into the room. He's looking very angry and he's cursing out, lo. Your fucking doctor has ruined me. He screams. The Donald flings Ivana down onto the bed. Then he pins back her arms and grabs her by the hair. The part of her head he's grabbing corresponds to the spot on his head where the scalp reduction operation has been done. The Donald starts ripping out Ivana's hair by the handful, as if he's trying to make her feel the same kind of pain that he's feeling. Ivana starts crying and screaming. The entire bed is being covered with strands of her golden locks. But the Donald does not finish. He rips off her clothes and unzips his pants. Then he jams his penis inside her. For the first time in more than 16 months, Ivana is terrified. This is not lovemaking. This is not romantic sex and is a violent assault. She later describes what the Donald is doing to her in no uncertain terms. According to the version she repeats to some of her closest confidants, he raped me. When the Donald finally pulls out, Ivana jumps up from the bed. Then she runs upstairs to her mother's room. She locks the door and stays there, crying for the rest of the night. The next morning, Ivana musters up the courage to return to the master bedroom. The Donald is there waiting for her. He leaves no doubt that he knows exactly what he did to her the night before. As she looks in horror at the ripped out hair scattered all over the bed, he glares at her and asks with a menacing casualness, does it hurt? On April 7, 1993, when the first printing of the Lost Tycoon was awaiting shipment, the publisher, who had met with Donald Trump and his lawyers on March 3rd received the following communication from Donald Trump's lawyers. The statement by Ivana Trump does not contradict or invalidate any information contained in this book, and it is included here only to give full expression to differing points of view on an important event. Let me just share with you what Harry Hertz says himself, so you don't have to hear it from me. This was the Trump biographer, and here's what he says and then he reads the statement from Ivana after this was published. Here, play this clip.

[Harry Hurt]

He comes in in a rage and starts pulling Ivana's hair. And then, according to her sworn deposition testimony in their divorce, he raped me. She said she was.

[Interviewer/Host]

So this is according to her deposition,

[Harry Hurt]

sworn under oath during the divorce case.

[Interviewer/Host]

He raped me.

[Harry Hurt]

He raped me. At this point, she is terrified. She runs out of the room, runs down the hall to her mother's room and locks the door behind her. Stays up crying all night. The next morning, again, according to her testimony, she comes creeping out of the thing, sees him and he goes, did it hurt?

[Interviewer/Host]

The subsequent divorce settlement included a gagging order preventing Ivana from publicly discussing their marriage. When Hertz book was published, it included a statement from Ivana.

I wish to say that on one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently towards me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated as the love and tenderness which he normally exhibited towards me was absent. I refer to this as a rape, but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.

Trump denies this story, and more recently, Ivana has described it as being totally without merit. Did he ever threaten to sue you over the publication of those details?

[Harry Hurt]

No, he did not. There was nothing they could could say because it was sworn testimony by Ivana beyond the just the sexual particulars here it is evidence to me of a very unstable personality that's been unstable for a very, very long time. And this isn't someone whose hand should be on the nuclear football. It's just quite that simple, I think.

[Narrator/Host]

Now I want to share this with you as well. This is Ivana before. This was kind of shortly before she died under these mysterious circumstances. Let's play it.

[Ivana Trump]

The old life, life with Donald, I don't know. Nothing really changed. I have a beautiful home here. I have a spectacular apartment in Miami. I have a 300-year-old fisherman houses in harbor of the Saint Tropez. What more can I have?

[Narrator/Host]

Here's a video of Ivana talking about how the divorce From Donald in 1990 or so was so traumatic for her and her father that that's potentially one of the reasons that her dad died of a heart attack, she says. Here, play this clip.

[Interviewer]

In the same year, Ivana lost the other most important man in her life when her father died suddenly of a heart attack.

[Ivana Trump]

I was a little bit numb and maybe that helped me also when my father passed away because I just. It just Cannot get any worse. It just has to get better.

[Interviewer]

You say in the book you thought the divorce perhaps contributed to your father's heart condition.

[Ivana Trump]

I just know that my father was devastated and my father was humiliated because he, you know, he, I was his pride and joy in his life. I know that he took it very hard. It just unfortunately did happen at the time when I did need him most.

[Interviewer]

How did you compensate for that, Ivana?

[Ivana Trump]

You don't.

[Interviewer]

As for her ex, Donald's new life now includes Marla, baby Tiffany and reflections on why it is not a good idea to put your wife to work for you. When I interviewed him last year, Donald said he regretted having had Ivana run his Atlantic City casinos and the Plaza Hotel.

[Donald Trump]

I think that was the single greatest cause of what happened to my marriage with Ivana.

[Ivana Trump]

If I look at it now, I think it was a terrible idea.

[Donald Trump]

Ivana would get angry at somebody over the telephone all of a sudden who was at the casino and she'd start shouting and I'd say, I don't want my wife shouting at somebody like that.

[Ivana Trump]

Well, you know, if you go into work and if you have four and a half thousand employees and the vice president, you cannot be real pussycat.

[Donald Trump]

There was a great softness to Ivana and she still has that softness. But during this period of time she became an executive, not a wife.

[Ivana Trump]

Suddenly the whole romance and whole evening goes because you know, you're talking business and you're talking what has to be done and repaired and this rut and than being romantic with each other.

[Narrator/Host]

And here was Donald Trump and Ivana on Oprah. You can see how Donald Trump treated her on Oprah. Here, play this clip.

[Donald Trump]

You all argue yes, yes, but not, not greatly. I'll tell you truthfully, we don't have, we don't have tremendous fights. We should have world record setting fights, but we really don't. We get along very well and there's not a lot of disagreement because ultimately Ivana does exactly as I tell her to do.

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[Donald Trump]

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[Narrator/Host]

Then there's this from the Guardian. Czechoslovakia ramped up spying on Trump in the late 1980s. The Communist intelligence service in Prague stepped up its spying campaign against Donald Trump in the late 1980s, targeting him to gain information about the upper echelons of the US Government. It goes and talks about how the Czechoslovakian secret police carry out a long term spying mission against Trump following his marriage in nineteen 1977 to his first wife Ivana. It talks about Ivana's father, Milo Zelnick, gave regular information to the local secret police about his daughter's visits from the US on his celebrity son in law's career in New York, Zelnick was classified as a conspiratorial informer. His relationship with the secret police lasted until the end of the communist regime. And it talks about how there was lots of Russian spying on Trump and Ivana through Ivana's dad, it was alleged. Here's a photo of Donald Trump and Ivana in their visit and a KGB sponsored trip back in 1987. Then going to this Bloomberg article from 2000. From 2023, FBI releases secret files on Ivana Trump, Donald Trump's first wife. Ivana was under FBI counterintelligence inquiry into allegations about her connections in her home country of Czechoslovakia in the 1919s, according to experts. For excerpts from her FBI file obtained by Bloomberg. The inquiry spanned several countries, with US legal attaches in Canada and Europe instructed to inquire about the circumstances of her immigration from them Communist Czechoslovakia to Austria and then later to Canada and then to look into her associations with individuals associated with the KGB and with secret police there as well. And then I'll leave you with this. Also, two more facts. Ivana's townhouse, where she died recently sold for $14 million after a $12.5 million price cut. Property records show the opulent Upper east side townhouse sold on February 27th for $14 million. It's a $12.5 million price cut from the original 26.5 million that they were selling it for. And again, I just think about how g that the Trump family buried her in the back lot of Bedminster. And you can get right behind that first T, like right in the tree area, the area of the trees. It's so utterly disgusting. Then victims of Ghislaine, victims of Jeffrey Epstein describe Ghislaine as being very close friends with Ivana. So in terms of what Ghislaine knows as Ghislaine's positioning for a pardon, here play this clip of one of Epstein and Ghislaine's victim, survivor Maria Maria Farmer. Here, play this clip.

[Maria Farmer]

Ivana Trump was like her best friend.

[Interviewer]

And with. Yeah, with Ivana, then. Yeah, describe that. That, you know, she'd be there.

[Maria Farmer]

How was creepy. So at the time, Ivana had this. She was doing qvc selling jewelry right. Online. I mean on tv she was like in QVC coin, Donald Trump. And Donald Trump was always hanging out with Epstein and Ivana was always hanging out with Elan Right. And Ivana would. She would. She would say, we're gonna go get. Pick up Ivana or Ivana's gonna come. And we'd ride in. In the car with her. And I remember one occasion where Ghislaine's like, I have to get out right now. And she went and got a number from a child and I. And a uniform.

[Harry Hurt]

Yeah.

[Maria Farmer]

And everybody knew what they were doing. Everybody who surrounded them knew exactly what they were doing.

[Interviewer]

And how often if. Did you go for rides? Often with her and Ivana?

[Maria Farmer]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

And would she. Would she pick up girls all the time?

[Maria Farmer]

Yes. She didn't bring them in the car. She would get their phone numbers.

[Narrator/Host]

Right.

[Maria Farmer]

But she would drive by schools.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Maria Farmer]

So as they got out, so would she.

[Interviewer]

And what's Ivana doing at this point? You know what is sitting in the car?

[Maria Farmer]

And I'll never forget because they went one day. I was really weirded out by what had happened. I was really weirded out. So. So I'm sorry, my phone's beeping in. Just give it a second. But anyway, I gotta go in a second. But I just wanted to tell you I was weirded out when they were driving around with this. So Gilanda shut me up, gave me one of those cheap bracelets Ivana was selling on QVC and said, ivana wants you to have this. And I threw it in the garbage.

[Narrator/Host]

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