The MeidasTouch Podcast: "MAGA Mike in Utter Terror as Epstein Vote Passes"

Date: November 19, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas (MeidasTouch Network)

Episode Overview

In this high-tension episode, the Meiselas brothers dissect the bombshell House vote to release the Epstein files (427–1) and the chaos it triggers for House Speaker Mike Johnson (“MAGA Mike”) and the MAGA Republicans. The hosts break down Johnson's desperate attempts to undermine, delay, or block the bill—even as he publicly claims to support it for “transparency.” They dive into Johnson’s contradictory public statements, Republican efforts to redefine “victims,” efforts in the Senate to insert “poison pills,” and attempts to deflect blame onto Democrats. Also featured are fiery moments from Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene, and a wild Trump outburst targeting a female reporter. The episode hammers home themes of accountability, hypocrisy, and the ongoing power struggle over transparency in the Epstein scandal.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Historic House Vote (427–1) on Epstein Files

• At [02:29], the House overwhelmingly votes in favor of releasing the Epstein files.
• Only one “nay”: Republican Clay Higgins.
• The brothers highlight the magnitude of bipartisan support and the panic this causes for Speaker Mike Johnson.

2. MAGA Mike's Public Panic and "Trembling" on the Floor

• [04:13] Johnson’s public remarks show anxiety as he raises “national security concerns”:

  "It jeopardizes future federal investigations. And we have national security concerns regarding classified information..."
  — Mike Johnson [04:13]

• The hosts needle Johnson for feigning transparency while plotting with the Senate to stall the process.

3. Contradictory Claims: “Nothing to Hide” vs. Delay Tactics

• Johnson claims Trump “has nothing to hide” and that the vote is all a political attack ([04:50]):

  "They're using that as a political weapon... to tie President Trump somehow into this wretched scandal. The President had nothing to do with it. He's been very clear, and he has nothing to hide..."
  — Mike Johnson [04:50]

• The hosts point out the contradiction: Johnson supports releasing the files but insists on collaboration with the Senate to “correct” the bill—a veiled attempt to kill or delay it.

4. Redefining “Victims”: Protect the Wealthy?

• The brothers slam Johnson’s argument that releasing the files would "create new victims"—referring, they reveal, to wealthy men named in the files, not Epstein’s survivors:

  "Doing this and requiring this to come out could ruin the reputations of completely innocent people, such as those who may just have known Epstein but knew nothing of his crimes..."
  — Mike Johnson [08:09]

• The narrative that “innocent” wealthy people will be unfairly smeared is called out as deflecting from the survivors’ demands for full disclosure.

5. National Security as a Pretext for Obstruction

• Johnson invokes “national security concerns” ([09:29]) as justification for blocking or redacting files:

  "It is incredibly dangerous to demand that officials or employees of the DOJ declassify materials that originated in other agencies and intelligence agencies..."
  — Mike Johnson [09:29]

• The hosts label this argument as a smokescreen and breakdown his coded language for stalling.

6. Blaming Democrats, Spinning the Narrative

• Johnson falsely claims Democrats blocked previous attempts to release files by unanimous consent ([10:55]):

  "I put the bill on the floor... and guess who objected to it? The Democrats..."
  — Mike Johnson [10:55]

• The hosts counter: It was Republicans, not Democrats, who delayed and watered down efforts.

7. Senate Maneuvers: Inserting a “Poison Pill”

• [14:33] Johnson reveals coordination with Senate Majority Leader John Thune to “methodically” amend or “correct” the bill:

  "...they will take the time methodically to do what we have not been allowed to do in the House, to amend this discharge petition and to make sure these protections are there..."
  — Mike Johnson [14:33]

• The hosts decode this as an attempt to kill the bill through amendment or indefinite delay.

8. Crossing the Aisle: Massie and Greene Stand With Dems

• Limited debate time prompts Democrats to yield floor time to Republicans like Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene, who want the files released.
• [19:57] Thomas Massie calls out Senate cover-up attempts:

  "...if you're a party to that in the Senate, you are part of this cover up... A lot of them need to go to prison... we will know when there are men, rich men in handcuffs..."
  — Thomas Massie [19:57]

• [20:45] Marjorie Taylor Greene says:

  "It should have been the easiest thing... to release all the information, every single file on behalf of these American women."
  — Marjorie Taylor Greene [20:45]

9. Trump’s Combative Response

• Amidst the chaos, Trump is confronted by a female reporter about why he doesn't simply release the Epstein files himself.
• [21:49] Trump erupts:

  "It's not the question that I mind. It's your attitude. I think you are a terrible reporter."
  — Donald Trump (imitated by show) [21:49]

• The brothers note Trump's prior insult to another female reporter, calling her "piggy" on Air Force One, further highlighting his antagonism toward the press.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mike Johnson, shaking on the floor:

  "It jeopardizes future federal investigations. And we have national security concerns regarding classified information..."
  [04:13]

• Mike Johnson defends Trump and spins a cover-up:

  "They're using that as a political weapon... The President had nothing to do with it. He's been very clear and he has nothing to hide."
  [04:50]

• Deflection of blame:

  "I put the bill on the floor of unanimous consent ... and guess who objected to it? The Democrats."
  [10:55]

• Thomas Massie, breaking ranks:

  "If you're a party to that in the Senate, you are part of this cover up... we will know when there are men, rich men in handcuffs..."
  [19:57]

• Marjorie Taylor Greene, rare agreement:

  "...it should have been the easiest thing for every single member of Congress ... to release all the information."
  [20:45]

• Trump, lashing out at a reporter:

  "It's not the question that I mind. It's your attitude. I think you are a terrible reporter."
  [21:49]

Important Timestamps

• [02:29] — House vote (427-1) on releasing Epstein files
• [04:13] — Johnson sparks panic over "national security"
• [04:50] & [17:08] — Johnson adamantly defends Trump, claims "nothing to hide"
• [08:09] — Johnson’s argument about “creating new victims”
• [09:29] — Invocation of "national security" to block files
• [10:55] — Johnson blames Democrats for delays
• [14:33] — Johnson details Senate plan to “correct” the bill
• [19:57] — Massie’s fiery speech on true justice
• [20:45] — Marjorie Taylor Greene’s emotional remarks
• [21:49] — Trump berates female reporter over Epstein files

Summary Flow & Tone

The episode is high-energy, irreverent, and righteous—combining insider legal analysis, political strategy breakdowns, and classic sibling banter. The MeidasTouch hosts’ tone is critical and relentless, but often laced with sarcasm and humor, especially when highlighting MAGA leaders’ hypocrisy and contradictions. They educate their audience on Congressional process and decode political doublespeak, all while rooting the discussion in the demands of Epstein's victims for truth and accountability.

Conclusion

This episode spotlights real-time political drama, Republican infighting, and escalating pressure for maximum transparency in the Epstein scandal. The MeidasTouch brothers call out attempts to shield elites and the powerful, highlight cracks in MAGA ranks, and rally their audience to insist on justice for victims—no matter how messy the politics get.