The MeidasTouch Podcast – December 26, 2025: Full Episode Summary

Main Theme & Purpose

In this Christmas episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast, brothers Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas dig deep into the Trump administration's cover-up and mishandling of the Epstein files, highlight the administration's deranged behavior over the holidays, dissect international tensions between the U.S. and Europe, and shine a light on the broader global authoritarian movement. Through their signature blend of legal insight, political analysis, and brotherly banter, they aim to expose government wrongdoing, reinforce the power of independent media, and reinforce their call for pro-democracy activism.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Epstein Files Cover-Up Exposed

• DOJ “Finds” 1 Million+ New Epstein Documents

  • Insight: Ben details how the MeidasTouch Network’s recent investigative reporting uncovered evidence of at least 1.2 million records being withheld by the Southern District of New York related to Epstein — corroborated by a DOJ announcement hours later that 1 million additional documents were “found.”
    • (06:04) Benji: “...my experience as a litigator...it was obvious to me there had to be more than just a few hundred thousand records or documents...Just think about a financial record alone for a billionaire...”
    • Ben explains standard legal processes for large document reviews and why the DOJ narrative of “just found” documents is implausible.
    • (09:19) Benji: “There may be 10 hard drives with more stuff like this...This is just the workspace: the e-discovery involving US v. Epstein, not Ghislaine — and only the Southern District of New York, not Florida or all the civil cases.”

• Implications & Administration Response

  • (16:42) Brett: “If we were able to discover it here at the Midas Touch network, like, they definitely should have known about these documents. It's very suspicious.”
  • Brett blasts Trump and surrogates (e.g., Pam Bondi, Kash Patel) for repeatedly lying about having and intending to release the Epstein client list and associated files.
  • They chronicle how the administration slow-walked the release, faced bipartisan Congressional action to force transparency, and then continued offering excuses for further delays.

• Broader Context

  • (20:42) Benji: “We’ve reached that point...we've got an authoritarian regime...they want you not to believe anything...so in this chaos, Donald Trump can steal for himself and enrich his family.”
  • The hosts frame the cover-up as emblematic of a wider attack on truth and democratic norms, not just incompetence.

2. Survivor Testimonies & Erosion of MAGA Loyalty

• Haley Robson’s On-Air Denunciation

  • Trump supporter and Epstein survivor Haley Robson, interviewed post cover-up, publicly withdrew her support for Trump, Pam Bondi, and Kash Patel, calling for resignations and impeachment.
    • (31:00) Haley: “I redact any support I've ever given to him...I think that Pam Bondi and Cash Patel both need to resign and I would love to see number 47 get impeached over this.”

• Hosts’ Take on Welcoming Disillusioned Supporters

  • (32:00) Benji stresses the importance of easing the path for MAGA defectors: “I do think we need to expand a coalition of people who care about empathy and truth and accountability and democracy. So I’ll take it wherever we could get it.”

3. Media Narratives, Trump-Epstein Connections & The Culture War

• Corporate Media Failing the Public

  • The brothers lambast traditional media for downplaying Trump’s ties to Epstein and refusing to treat Trump’s behavior as deviant and newsworthy.
    • (36:26) Benji: “Setting aside all of Donald Trump's connections to Epstein...CNN and Ms. Now...the other networks...there’s been no evidence that Donald Trump was involved in anything.”
    • Brett recounts known Trump/Epstein incidents, including underage beauty pageants and a notorious Mar-a-Lago swimsuit event attended only by Epstein, Trump, and the models.

• Memorable Quote

  • (38:47) Brett: “I want to hone in for a second...on that Haley Robson clip...she said she believes [the other survivors’] stories...so why would their stories necessarily make her change her opinion on Donald Trump?”

• Right-wing Victimhood & Bad Faith Outrage

  • They mock the right-wing “victim” ecosystem, e.g., stories where students write shoddy essays using Bible verses and become conservative celebrities for it.
    • (35:35) Benji: “Losers. It's how you get people—losers, evil, like just shitty losers, excuse my language.”

4. Cover-Up Tactics & Trump’s Shifting Denials

• Trump’s Unraveling Narrative

  • The brothers provide evidence of Trump’s lies: denying being on Epstein’s plane; denying a birthday card to Epstein; and denials contradicted by documents and signatures.
    • (45:22) Benji: “And Donald Trump said he was never on Epstein's plane. Remember back in January 2024, Trump made a social media post, never been on the plane...Well, we know he was on the plane.”

• Legal Ramifications

  • Ben explains how hiding documents could create an adverse inference in court: “The reason that they’re hiding it...is they’re covering up their criminality, and then the jury finds them liable.” (42:21)

5. Economy, Propaganda, & Manipulated Metrics

• Manipulating Economic Data
  • The team play clips of Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick touting “record” GDP stats, which they claim were cherry-picked and manipulated, drawing a direct comparison between economic propaganda and the Epstein file cover-up (“If you’re willing to cover up a child sex trafficking ring, do you think they’re willing to fudge the GDP by 1%?” – Benji, 47:11).
    • (50:05) Jordy: “He sounds like one of those bad car salesman commercials...that guy right there...he's trying to scam you.”

6. Trump’s “Deranged” Christmas Behavior & The Authoritarian Playbook

• Trump’s Offensive Holiday Posts

  • Instead of family greetings, Trump spent his Christmas posting grievances: calling for Obama’s prosecution, repeating stolen election lies, and attacking the ACA.
    • (57:35) Benji: “That’s how we should behave, right? Pretty basic. But what we've been living with...is Donald Trump and this Trumpism and this behavior which I've described before as, frankly, loser behavior that's been normalized, evil behavior.”

• Framing Trumpism Beyond Partisanship

  • The Meiselases urge audiences to recognize Trumpism as uniquely bad, transcending left/right distinctions, and to frame it as “evil behavior” that civilized societies ought to reject.

7. U.S. Internationally: From Democratic Ally to “Systemic Adversary”

• Escalating U.S.-Europe Tensions

  • Ben explains that European officials now openly view the U.S. under Trump as a systemic adversary, pointing to sanctions imposed on Europe (ostensibly over “censorship” and “free speech”), even as Trump’s administration lifts sanctions on Russia.
    • (59:35) Benji: “...French General Nicholas Rocheau: the USA are now systemic adversaries...The United States is imposing sanctions against Europe while lifting sanctions against Russia...humanitarian icons in Europe are being sanctioned by us.”

• Weaponizing Disinformation and Authoritarian Solidarity

  • The U.S. government, in defense of Elon Musk's “X” (formerly Twitter), is retaliating against the EU for combatting disinformation online, signaling American oligarchy and the global alignment of authoritarians.
    • (61:53) Brett: “...the full weight of the United States government...being levied basically to protect the world's richest man.”

8. The Greenland “Annexation” Sideshow

• Louisiana Governor Appointed ‘Special Envoy’ to Greenland
  • In a segment underscoring the absurdity and imperial ambitions of the regime, the brothers play a clip of Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry discussing his appointment as Trump's special envoy for “acquiring” Greenland, using colonial rhetoric reminiscent of Russian or Chinese expansionists.
    • (69:00) Benji: “This is what an abuser sounds like...That's the language that Putin and Lavrov use about Ukraine...He references the Monroe Doctrine...Western hemisphere belongs to the US. Everything else are vassal states...If you understand that that's how they see the world, everything makes sense.”

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Government Lies:
  “Anytime this administration opens their mouth...they’re lying. And the American people feel that.”
  — Jordy (19:50)

• On the DOJ Cover-Up:
  “This is not some super-secret source...it was clearly in the SDNY’s possession.”
  — Benji (08:58)

• On Facing Reality:
  “When did all of people’s minds go to mush?...What do you think they were doing or intending to do?...What are we talking about here?”
  — Benji (41:00)

• On Independent Media:
  “Independent media...is just more important than ever before. We take great pride here at the Midas Touch Network of this community, this pro democracy community.”
  — Jordy (65:28)

• On the Moment:
  “Did you ever imagine that in 2025...people would be rushing to try to find a bootleg copy of a 60 Minutes segment that did not air?...I think that right there alone sums up where we are at.”
  — Brett (66:18)

Section Timestamps

• Epstein Files Deep Dive: 06:04–25:21
• Survivor Testimonies & MAGA Defections: 30:34–33:32
• Media Narratives & Culture War: 33:32–38:47
• Trump-Epstein Links & Denials: 41:00–47:11
• Economy & Propaganda: 47:11–52:09
• Trump’s Christmas Behavior & Authoritarian Normalization: 56:35–61:53
• International Authoritarianism & U.S.-Europe Tensions: 61:53–69:00
• Greenland Annexation Satire: 66:49–71:00

Conclusion & Final Thoughts

• The brothers wrap up by emphasizing the need for unity, vigilance against autocracy, and recommitment to truth and accountability as the new year approaches.
• Benji: “Let’s regroup, let’s recharge, and let’s make 2026 a year of accountability for this regime.” (72:56)
• They wish their audience a Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and call for support of independent media through subscriptions and allied activism.

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