MeidasTouch Podcast - February 6, 2026
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Episode Overview
In this episode, the MeidasTouch brothers take a deep dive into explosive new developments connecting Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein via recently released court documents, as well as a thorough analysis of the tanking U.S. economy under Trump’s second term, mounting political fallout in both the U.S. and abroad regarding Epstein, and significant wins for Democrats on gerrymandering and redistricting—especially in California and Virginia. The trio combines hard-hitting investigations with their signature banter, offering both searing critique and moments of lightness.
Key Topics & Discussion Points
1. Trump, Epstein & the Unsealed Files
- Ben kicks off (06:30) with the latest damning revelations: Trump’s name appears tens of thousands of times in the Epstein files, with detailed correspondence extending up through 2019.
- International Response vs. US Inaction: (08:00) Ben contrasts swift, shaming responses from countries like Poland and the UK to politicians' Epstein links with the US, where MAGA Republicans deny all and protect Trump.
"Here with these MAGA Republicans, they just deny that Trump's in [the Epstein files], even though Trump’s in them in the most grotesque way." — Ben (06:30)
- Research Deep Dive: (07:15) Brett describes the team’s intensive research, pulling up smoking-gun emails about logistics with Don Jr., Steve Bannon, Boris Nikolak, and direct references to Trump.
- “When you actually see it in writing… it’s jaw dropping. Disgusting, abhorrent, sick, vile, depraved…any word you want to use.” — Brett (07:54)
- Debunking Trump’s Claims: Jordy highlights (13:54) that these documents 100% debunk Trump's claim he “cut off” Epstein ages ago.
Memorable Quotes
- “Trump appears more in the Epstein files than Harry Potter does in the Harry Potter books and more references to Trump than Jesus in the Bible.” — Ben (06:30)
- “It is so gross. But we’ve been uncovering it all… many of these same people are lying about it in real time.” — Brett (08:30)
- “You’re not just calling any Joe Schmo off the street ‘sweet pea’.” — Jordy, about exchanges between Ghislaine Maxwell and Melania Trump (27:00)
2. Economic Meltdown Under Trump
- Crumbling Jobs Report: Ben discusses (19:12) recent disastrous economic indicators—massive layoffs, surging unemployment, and record-low job openings, drawing parallels to the Great Recession.
- “At a time where Americans are psychologically tortured, living paycheck to paycheck… January layoffs surging to a 17-year high.” — Ben (19:12)
- Crypto Crash Tied to Trump’s Policies: (22:20) Brett & Ben analyze the collapse of Bitcoin and the broader crypto market since Trump’s election, with connections to Epstein’s communications on crypto as a tool for global elite power-plays.
“These are people pulling the strings in world affairs… and Epstein was central to it all.” — Brett (23:00)
- International Conspiracy & Economics: The hosts describe how right-wing oligarchs are orchestrating “return to tribalism” for personal enrichment, directly quoting Epstein’s emails with Peter Thiel and linking them to contemporary MAGA policy.
Notable Segment
- On Epstein’s Economic Scheme (24:20)
- “Finding things on their way to collapse was much easier than finding the next bargain.” — Jeffrey Epstein to Peter Thiel, as quoted by Brett
3. Trump's Lawsuit Against the US Government
- Self-Dealing Exposed: (38:50–45:00) Trump is suing the IRS (and thus himself) for $10 billion over a 2021 data breach affecting over 400,000 Americans. He claims he’ll “give the money to charity,” but Ben, as a lawyer, breaks down how Trump could use legal loopholes to dodge taxes permanently.
“First, he’ll claim the $10 billion is tax-free due to personal physical injury. Then, he’ll use bogus charity donations for deductions, and never pay taxes again… Who’s going to audit him?” — Ben (42:11)
- Senate Hearing: Key clips of Senator Gallego grilling (48:51, 57:00) Treasury Secretary Besant about the stunning corruption and zero oversight.
“If this was happening in any other country, it would look like an absolute shakedown of the American taxpayer.” — Sen. Gallego (50:19)
- Satirical Class Action Math: (60:11) Ben mocks the logic: if Trump gets $10B for one data breach, the rest of the victims could claim quadrillions, highlighting absurdity and legal dangers.
4. Media, Accountability & International Contrast
- Corporate Media Fails: (33:48) The brothers criticize US media for not connecting obvious dots between Trump and Epstein, nor pressing the Trumps/Melanias as forcefully as they would Bidens.
- UK Parliament: Real Accountability: (66:10–74:03) In contrast, British Parliament confronts Prime Minister Starmer over appointing Peter Mandelson (named in Epstein files) as ambassador, with Starmer admitting fault publicly.
“Let’s look at what we did know when he was appointed… he had consoled this paedophile.” — UK Parliament member (69:46)
- Audible gasps as Starmer admits (73:24) vetting did reveal Mandelson’s ongoing Epstein relationship.
- US Republicans: Evasion and Denial: (74:24) MAGA Speaker Mike Johnson, when pressed about Trump appearing thousands of times in the files: “The president submits to press inquiries every day. He answers them.”
5. Redistricting, Prop 50 & Democratic Victories
- Big Blue Wins: (78:00) Ben, Brett, and Jordy celebrate Democratic victories in gerrymandering battles:
- California Prop 50: Upheld by the Supreme Court (80:37).
- Virginia’s “10 to 1” Map: Democrats proactively secure and grow House seats, turning GOP gerrymandering on its head.
“When you fight back, you win. That’s the lesson.” — Ben (79:47)
- Fighting Back as Strategy: Brett points to Governor Newsom’s leadership and says it’s a model for Democrats nationwide:
“He brought this directly to the voters… people now see him as a fighter. And now we’re seeing how the whole gerrymandering process by the Republicans has backfired.” — Brett (81:11)
6. Lightning Rounds & Miscellany
- Trump’s Cognitive Claims: (46:27) Trump boasts of passing “three cognitive mind tests.” The hosts ridicule both his odd phrasing and apparent cognitive lapses during interviews.
“He looks like a mad person… this shouldn’t be acceptable for our country.” — Ben (47:04)
- Melania’s Press Dodges: (17:34) Played for comic relief—her awkward promotion of a film during a White House event for freed hostages and ducking Epstein/Maxwell questions.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)
- “Trump appears more in the Epstein files than the word ‘Harry’ in all seven Harry Potter books.” — Ben (06:30)
- “This is truly, truly jaw-dropping stuff.” — Brett (09:00)
- “You have a Department of Justice acting as Donald Trump’s personal criminal defense firm.” — Brett (09:45)
- “Sweet Pea…? You’re not just calling any Joe Schmo ‘sweet pea’.” — Jordy on Ghislaine & Melania’s closeness (27:00)
- “I think if this had been happening in any other country, it would look an absolute, like, a total shakedown of the American taxpayer.” — Sen. Gallego (50:19)
- “It is the height of kleptocracy and oligarchy. It is just detestable.” — Brett (51:12)
- “When you fight back, you win.” — Ben (79:47)
- “We made a promise to level the playing field, and today we’re keeping our promise… 10:1.” — Virginia Senate/House Leaders (78:40)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 06:30 — Ben’s Opening: Trump-Epstein File Deep Dive
- 07:15 — Brett’s Editorial: Researching the Files
- 13:54 — Jordy: Debunking Trump-Epstein Lies
- 17:34 — Melania Film Press Gaffe & Avoiding Epstein Questions
- 19:12 — Economic Meltdown: Layoffs, Inflation, Paycheck-to-Paycheck
- 22:20 — Crypto Crash & Epstein's Email to Peter Thiel
- 38:50 — Trump’s IRS Lawsuit, $10 Billion Self-Deal Exposed
- 46:27 — Trump’s "Cognitive Mind Tests" — Cognitive Lapses Highlighted
- 48:51 — Sen. Gallego Grills Treasury Sec. Besant: Corruption Exposed
- 57:00 — SCAM Math: Data Breach Class Action Example
- 66:10 — UK Parliament Goes Hard on Epstein Connections
- 74:24 — Speaker Mike Johnson Dodges on Trump-Epstein Links
- 78:00 — Victory in Virginia: 10:1 Map & National Implications
- 80:37 — California Prop 50 Victory & Democratic Momentum
Episode Tone & Style
As ever, the Meidas brothers blend urgency, righteous indignation, sarcasm, and biting humor. Their banter lightens the mood, especially around grim subjects, but the episode’s throughline is energetic outrage and calls to action.
Conclusion: The Takeaway
- The Trump-Epstein files are more damning and far-reaching than previously acknowledged, involving direct, recent email correspondence and implicating much of Trumpworld.
- The US economic outlook is collapsing, especially for working Americans, while MAGA elites enrich themselves through corruption and legal manipulation.
- Abroad, parliamentary systems and even conservative governments are holding leaders to account far more stringently than in America.
- Democrats, when fighting back hard, are chalking up real wins in redistricting and the courts.
- The message: Don’t give up—when you fight for democracy, you win.
Final word from Brett:
“We have to be able to punch back and when we fight, we win, as they say.” (81:58)
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