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Ben Miceli
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Brett Meiselas
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Ben Miceli
Learn more at aarp.org skills Let them eat cake. Donald Trump's Central Planning Department is now saying that little girls should only get two dolls, not 35 dolls, and only a couple of pencils, not 250 pencils. These are actual words that Donald Trump repeated over and over again in the past 48 hours. Also, no deals, Donald is saying, because he hasn't been able to secure any deals as part of his disastrous trade war. He may just start to make up his own deals in his mind and declare what the tariffs are going to be for each country. Isn't that what you did already that got us into this mess in the first place? Okay, Donald Donald Trump also posted an AI image of himself as a pope. He called for reopening Alcatraz. He called for tariffing movies produced overseas. He hung out with the leader of the proud boys at Mar A Lago, Enrique Tario. He says he doesn't know if the Constitution applies to him. He he doesn't think migrants should have trials. Oh, and they're cutting what, 20% of the four star generals. Oh, and the week has just begun. Also elbows up a big victory for the Labor Party in Australia, which is their left leaning Liberal party there. The Trump backed MAGA party over there, which is their Liberal party. Their conservative right wing parties called the Liberal Party led by Peter Dutton, had a humiliating defeat on Saturday. The Labor Party had a massive, massive victory. A huge repudiation of Trump and MAGA because the Peter Dutton Liberal candidate, which again is their right wing party, was Timu Trump. They're like the maple MAGA Pierre Poliev in the way. Pierre Poliev in Canada lost his seat, lost his writing. Although he basically shook someone down, a conservative in Alberta to then take that person's writing. Same thing here with Peter Dutton who lost his own seat in Dixon and there the right wing party had a massive defeat. Let's bring in Bretton Jordy. We've got a lot to discuss. A lot has happened over the past 24 to 48 hours and it looks like Donald Trump spiraling out of control just continues to accelerate. It was funny, Brett. I saw some of the comments and they were like, ben, when you say total meltdown, we always think that's clickbait and you're exaggerating. But you're right, it is a total meltdown. I go, what else do you want me to call what this is? I'm just literally observing what I'm seeing right now. I don't know what else to call it.
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Jordan Cohen
Hey, listen, if we were making videos about like Mitt Romney speaking about like his views on tax policy and we were like, Romney goes psycho. I totally get it, okay? If you guys are like, come on now, come on. But like literally this guy goes psycho and has meltdowns every single day. Like, like, let's not act like what we are seeing is normal stuff. You will own less and be happy. That is basically the mantra of this new Trump admin. And he is just spiraling out of control. I mean, is there anything more anti American brothers than telling people you should do well with less? You could, you should, you should have less. And I'm going to tell you how much that you should have. While I live in my gold tower and sit on my gold plated toilet, your, your daughter should only have one or two dolls. That's, that, that, that's plenty. That's plenty. I mean this is just absolutely crazy. It is certainly not the message that came from the Trump campaign as he was running in this election. And things just keep getting worse and like we saying this is just like the very beginning. We are in the eye of the storm right now. And when that storm actually hits, it's going to be devastating. We're seeing what's happening with freight. We're seeing what's happening at the ports. We are seeing what all the investments with all the investors are saying that everything is basically dried up and come to a complete halt and a standstill. And right now we are just waiting, embracing for the impact of all that. While Donald Trump, I guess, watches movies on TV and then tries to put those movies into his policy, now he's obsessed with Alcatraz because maybe he watched Escape from Alcatraz, the Clint Eastwood movie, over the weekend on tv and now that's in his head. It's just the whole deranged thing that's going on. So, yeah, we're not going to sugarcoat it. We're not going to pretend like this is normal. We're going to be loud about what we are seeing because it is quite literally psychotic, the stuff that we are witnessing. Great to be here with everybody. Remember to add the Midas Touch podcast on Apple Podcasts. Remember to add the Midas touch podcast on Spotify. Spotify. Leave us a five star review if you can. Jordy, what's new on your end?
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Jordy Rosenberg
I am excited for the show. Brothers Midas Mighty. Anyone in Western pa, Shout out to y'all. We're going on day seven right now. Without power. You know what?
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Ben Miceli
It's all right.
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Jordy Rosenberg
We're not going to complain. There are plenty of worse things that happen than being without power.
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Jordan Cohen
Jordy's doing the pod by candlelight.
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Jordy Rosenberg
Shout out to my relatives out here. Thank you guys for letting me use this room to do the podcast. And I did it here last week, too. That's because my power was out. And just shout out to Western pa. Man, a bunch of us ginzers, man. We're a bunch of fighters. Shout out to Western pa. Benji, where do you want to start?
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Ben Miceli
Jordy, the way your face reacted, you seem surprised when Brett was saying that the reason that Donald Trump has come out with this we need to reopen Alcatraz was because Escape from Alcatraz was actually playing in southern Florida on the networks that Donald Trump was likely watching.
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Jordy Rosenberg
That's a brilliant point. He's exactly right.
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Ben Miceli
There were reporters who tracked that down and actually showed that that movie was playing at night while Donald Trump was vacationing once again on the taxpayer dime. Also, what does Donald Trump want to do on the taxpayer dime? He wants to throw a military parade in June for his birthday with 50 helicopters, paratroopers, 7,000 soldiers, so he can look like Kim Jong Un. Also, Donald, and that's going to cost what, probably around $100 million or more. We previously reported how Donald Trump has been on a personal deal making, not in terms of the country. Donald Trump is building resorts in Qatar right now. Also, we learned earlier New York Post exclusive, exclusive, that Qatar gave Donald Trump and the American military their big jet for Donald Trump to build a new Air Force One with gold walls in it. So it shouldn't be surprising why federal spending is actually significantly higher right now under Donald Trump than it was under former President Biden. All Doge did was take your to take your Social Security information, take your medical records, take your IRS file and did nothing to cut costs at all. They're actually going to cause a massive amount of money to be added to our deficit in the Short term, probably 130 to 200 billion based on what they've done. But then when you factor in the tax revenues that won't be collected and the dismantling and inefficiencies in federal government that they've caused, I would guess that it will probably be in the trillions. Let's get into some of what I talked about at the outset of this show. Here was Donald Trump in this interview with Kristen Welker, which was supposed to be the 100 day interview. And Donald Trump's on Meet the Press. And Donald Trump is asked, so are you okay with recession? Are you okay? And Donald Trump's like, yeah, yeah. Here, play the clip.
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Brett Meiselas
And that's my question. Long term, is it okay in the short term to have a recession?
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E
Look, yeah, it's, everything's okay. What we are, I said this is a transition period. I think we're going to do fantastic.
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Ben Miceli
It's a transit. Yes, that's what he ran on. I will do a transition day period. Yeah, I'm okay. I'm okay with everything. What does that even mean, you're okay with everything? Here Donald Trump tells Kristen Welker about the military parade. He goes, this is going to be great for us. This is going to be great. Here, let's play this clip.
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Brett Meiselas
The president also told me that next month he's planning a military parade celebrating the 250th anniversary of the U.S. army that also falls on his 79th birthday.
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E
We're going to have a big, beautiful parade.
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Brett Meiselas
A military parade.
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E
Yeah, sure.
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Ben Miceli
Okay.
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E
We're going to celebrate our military. We have the greatest military in the world. People peanuts compared to the value of doing it. We have the greatest missiles in the world. We have the greatest submarines in the world. We have the greatest army tanks in the world. We have the greatest weapons in the world. And we're going to celebrate what.
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Ben Miceli
And then Donald Trump talks about building a huge ballroom by the White House and that that's one of his major priorities, a grand ballroom. He tells Kristen Welker here, play this close.
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E
We are going to make and build a ballroom which they've want it for probably 100 years at the White House. And it'll be a world class beautiful.
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Brett Meiselas
Ballroom, a ballroom that could cost millions of dollars. He says he will pay for it himself. You will fund it.
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E
Not going to ask the government for money. I'll fund it and I'm sure we'll have some donations to it. But it's not an inexpensive thing.
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Ben Miceli
I'll fund it. Isn't that what he said about his presidential campaign? I'm sure we'll have donations to it as well. I guess that what Jeff Bezos, Zuckerberg, get ready to take out your checkbook. It's time for another check right here to the the Trump regime. Doesn't it seem like that's what he's talking about? Then Donald Trump, as part of this interview, says that he's not sure if he needs to uphold the Constitution. He goes, I don't know. When asked a very direct question. Don't you feel obligated to uphold the Constitution? Here, play this clip.
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Brett Meiselas
But even given those numbers that you're talking about, don't you need to uphold the Constitution of the United States as president?
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E
I don't know. I have to respond by saying, again, I have brilliant lawyers that work for me and they are going to obviously follow what the Supreme Court said. What you said is not what I heard. The Supreme Court said. They have a different interpretation.
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Ben Miceli
There's no different interpretation of what the Supreme Court said. It was 9 to 0. It was a very short order. It was not open to a lot of interpretation. It said says facilitate the return of Abrego Garcia. It says that people in the United States get due process. By the way, even though Abrego Garcia had no criminal history, even though Trump's first administration was the one who gave Abrego Garcia the work permit and issued a withholding order saying you can't send him to El Salvador even if he was a bad guy or could be a bad guy if that was demonstrated in a court through process in America, you have due process. Now you may say well, due process is slow. Due process is messy. Due process takes time. It's frustrating. That's our system. You know, where it's quicker. North Korea, Pop. That's how they do it. They say, we think you're a gang member, we don't like you. They shoot you, they kill you. That's it done. How do you think it happens in Putin's Russia? They throw you off the balcony. In America, our experience, how we were founded, was on the concept of due process. That's it. It's why it is even to me, inexplicable. Why people even have debates over this, right? Like, why would I even debate due process with one of these right wing people? And they go, well, actually, there's no. Actually, the Supreme Court said, return them, return them. The Supreme Court's the law of the land. Do it. What? There's no debate or discussion. There isn't a debate to be had when it comes to due process, period. Full stop.
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Jordan Cohen
The frustrating thing is that, you know, there have been attempts to solve this issue now for decades, the immigration issue. And certainly, you know, there is blame to go around to all the parties here. But most recently, what happened? What did we see? Just about a year ago, we saw a bipartisan immigration bill that was touted by President Biden at the time, and we saw him deal with very concerned conservative members of the United States Congress in order to try to get this thing passed. And what was in this bill, one of the most important things that we could possibly use to help the immigration process, which is having more judges, more immigration judges, part of the backlog. One of the reasons for the backlog that we have with the whole system is because we simply do not have the manpower in the judicial system in order to handle all of this. We were trying to solve this just a year ago. Donald Trump himself was the person who torpedoed all of this, in addition to a bunch of other officials and officers and stuff who would also help facilitate all of this stuff. So it's a typical Republican thing right here that we are seeing, which is sabotage the solution and then continue to try to run on the problem and blame other people. It's something that we see time and time again, and it's no different right now.
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Jordy Rosenberg
So military parades, brothers, this is just something that's normal. Like in our, in our political discourse. This is what we're just going to do here in the United States. You know, before Bill Maher went sideways, he used to warn about this type of stuff with Donald Trump. He used to say, Hey, I don't stand for military parades. That's what authoritarians do. That's not what we do here in America. And so the gaslighting from that Kristen Welker interview, genuinely, my heart is pounding watching that, because not seeing any sort of pushback in the respect of, do you think this is just a normal thing for a president to do? Just ask the most simple and basic question, please. Because it's just infuriating and scary as someone who loves this country to see our military being used as a prop in this despicable way.
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Jordan Cohen
And let me just say, Jordan, you know why? Because Donald Trump is a failure. Donald Trump is a complete and total failure through and through. And his presidency, this term has been no different than the rest of his life. A complete and total failure. When you look at all of the objective metrics, Donald Trump has failed. When you look at immigration, how he's handling immigration, he's actually deporting fewer people than President Biden did. He had a lot to say about President Biden and his deportations. He's actually deporting fewer people. He's making a big scene out of it. He's trying to turn everything into this TV moment, this kind of real life, twisted episode of Cops. And he is actually deporting the wrong people. Rather than getting rid of criminals, he's getting rid of, like, innocent people and people who are actually citizens and all this stuff. But Trump is actually deporting fewer people. Donald Trump promised that prices were going to go down right away. Prices are higher, even though he likes to pretend that they're not. He liked to pretend that inflation was going to go away. Not the case. He would like to pretend that his tariffs were going to solve everything. Well, they did not. If you go through every little subject matter, every topic, Donald Trump has been a failure. So what's the only thing that he could do to try to claim success? It's to try to do these performative antics that grab the headlines and don't mean anything. They're just like, ridiculous. Like what like a two year old might say, like, what would you do if you were president? I would name do a parade for myself. I would do Alcatraz. He just shouts out all these things because those things are, like, easy to him. Right? He doesn't have to actually work with Congress. He doesn't actually have to do the actual work that it entails to really be a leader, to really be a president, to rename the Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America or to say, I want to Reopen, reopen Alcatraz. He can't get the real stuff done. So he's so focused on all of these sideshows.
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Ben Miceli
Donald Trump said on day one he was going to have the largest mass deportation exercise in the history. He said on day one millions of people would be rounded up. I'm glad that that did not happen. We see what Donald Trump's doing with about 200 plus Venezuelans, 85% who have no criminal history, who are in a concentration camp in El Salvador. But what's Donald Trump now been saying over the past 24 to 48 hours? Their new plan as of May 5th is to pay migrants $1,000 to self deport. So I guess what was the plan? Torture individuals with no criminal history and throw them into concentration camps and then try to pay off other migrants who are here and you revoke their temporary protected status. They're here legally and then you pay them off a thousand dollars with the threat. Do you want to go to concentration camps in El Salvador? And Donald Trump again, ineffective, negligent and even in his most dastardly of policies. Another point I want to make and Jordy, you were saying the fact that corporate news normalizes military parades. What I was going to say before is that I'm slightly older than you, Jordan, slightly older than Brett. Our age difference is about eight years. So I grew up remembering the Clinton administration probably a little more than you did because you were probably what, five at the time and there was something maybe you were like three at the time. There was something called Whitewater and this was an investigation over an obscure small real estate deal in Arkansas and whether there was self dealing by Clinton and whether he was using his positions of power to exert influence. There were massive investigations to Whitewater, investigations. The Times and other newspapers focused on this relentlessly, relentlessly, relentlessly every day. The Trump regime brazenly does things for billions and tens of billions of dollars. That's what doesn't even make the news at all. Or maybe buried in page 18, you know, and gets a tiny paragraph and then no one talks about it again, like are people, no one's talking about that. Don Jr. Is created a club club called the executive branch for $500,000 per membership with David Sachs, the crypto czar. And they're throwing parties at the Willard Hotel where they're just flaunting this club, which presumably is access to the crypto czar and the Executive Branch. Donald Trump's deal in Qatar for resorts to be made there. The Abu Dhabi Fund spending what Billions and billions of dollars using the, the Trump aligned crypto. Trump selling meme coins. He today, just today, Donald Trump posted about his meme coin dinner. If you have the most Trump meme coins, you get to meet with, you get to meet with Donald Trump. I could go on. I mean I could spend 10 shows. That's not even.
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Jordan Cohen
Not to mention like the fact that the other stuff that's happening directly in the White House, even these executive orders against these law firms are like a protection racket that we are seeing right now. You know, they actually did a Great report on 60 Minutes last night about this where they had an attorney speak about this and it was a John Kecker is that he says his name.
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Ben Miceli
Then we had on the show we had him on.
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Jordan Cohen
Yeah. And he said that this is the definition of bribery. What we are seeing right now, the definition of bribery. What Donald Trump is doing with these law firms by making them give him these basically in kind, you know, pro bono work to the sum of hundreds of millions of dollars. Also scaring them off with his legal schemes. Again, I mean we're witnessing the single most brazenly corrupt criminal administration in history. Just doing things every single day. That would have been months worth of coverage, if not like historic, like major headlines in your history books growing up. But it's just a daily occurrence, sometimes like 10 times a day. And that's part of their strategy. Right. It just do so much that you overwhelm the system, whether it's the media system, the courts, whatever it is, try to throw so much at everybody that you just confuse everybody to going, oh, maybe this isn't so psycho. Maybe this is normal. No, this is psycho stuff that we're seeing.
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Jordy Rosenberg
But, but, but what they didn't account for, Brett, in this administration is this community, is the pro democracy community, the Midas mighty independent media really putting their flag in the ground and saying we know how to report on this shit and we're going to do it every single day and we're going to meet the moment every single day and call this stuff out.
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Ben Miceli
Right.
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Jordy Rosenberg
You'll get those people out there, oh, Alcatraz. It's just a distraction from this. Don't pay attention to that. That pay attention to all of it because it's utterly friggin ridiculous. And people are smart enough to walk and chew gum at the same time and they could care about multiple issues and call Trump out for his utter complete incompetence. And also what he does to our economy and also what he does to Abrego Garcia and also this and also people are fed up and you should be angry at every single thing, thing, Period. End of story.
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Ben Miceli
Prime Minister Mark Carney will be visiting the White House on Tuesday. Ahead of that, Donald Trump is attacking Canada more, talking about annexation, basically giving the middle finger to Prime Minister Carney in the Oval Office today saying, I'm not sure why he even wants to be here. I guess he wants to make a deal. Everybody wants to make deals with us. No, you are no deals, Donald. Actually nobody has wanted to make deals with you. You took existing deals, some of which were made during your first administration, like the 2018 trade deal you did with Japan or the USMCA United States Mexico Canada Agreement, which you basically just renamed NAFTA and updated a little bit and pretended it was your deal, but that's what you did in your first administration. You ripped that to shreds. I did a whole post on our substack Midas plus about how Donald Trump violates every rul of negotiation, from setting arbitrary deadlines against himself, to breaching prior agreements, to underestimating his opponents, to not coming in with the data set or a full data set that understands the situation, to sending mixed messages, to undermining his negotiators, to having multiple negotiators saying different things. Donald Trump is, has never been a good negotiator. He's never been a good builder. He's been a destroyer. He bankrupted Atlantic City where he put three casinos next to each other. Other assumed massive amounts of debt. The casinos cannibalized each other and put out and put tens of thousands of people out of a job. And people were warning, this is the stupidest thing. Why are you doing three casinos over leveraged like that right next to each other? They're all going to compete against each other. You don't know what you're talking about. I'm going to do a big beautiful casino, the biggest three that you ever did. That's basically like what he's doing with his tariffs. Everybody who knows this says you're going to crush the economy. You don't know what you're talking about. We're getting rich. You don't even understand the fact that all trade has stopped with China means we're getting rich. Like he doesn't know the basics of economics. I want to talk about that and more. We've got a busy, busy day here in the news. We're going to cover it all. I want to remind everybody to check out store.midas touch.com for that pro democracy gear. We also got the Maple Midas gear, 100% made in Canada. I want to give another shout out to our Australia viewers. Elbows up. That's kind of our elbows up for Australia. Elbows up for the Midas down under or the Midas mates. We're still working through names there, but they really stood up against Donald Trump this past weekend. And reminder everybody to go to Midas+.com let's take our first quick break of the show. We've got a lot to discuss when we return.
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Jordan Cohen
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Jordy Rosenberg
Let's go. Shout out to our sponsors. Hey, drop in the comments right now if you. If you bought a pair of those Vessis. Those are sharp, Brad. Those look really cool.
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Ben Miceli
Cool.
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Jordy Rosenberg
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Jordan Cohen
I just gotta say, Brett, I legit wear those everywhere.
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Jordy Rosenberg
I gotta say, you're so annoying sometimes. You, because you're good at everything you do, man. Like those reads are you like you like. It's like you're an expert. Sponsorship read. Like everything you do bend to an extent, kind of, but more so you. You pick up anything and you're just like a pro. Here's the thing.
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Ben Miceli
When we get.
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Jordan Cohen
When we got good stuff, you know, it makes it easy, honestly. And I love the stuff. Those vessels are the best. They're so good.
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Jordy Rosenberg
Benji, you look like you took some. Took that personally. What I said, don't worry, you're great. You're great at a lot of things.
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Ben Miceli
Comes right off the shoulders. Take that dirt, Put it on.
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Jordy Rosenberg
Where to next, Benji?
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Ben Miceli
The question is, is Prime Minister Carney gonna take that dirt off his shoulder? What Donald Trump is throwing his way, like, what a transition.
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Jordan Cohen
Wow.
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Ben Miceli
Prime Minister Carney's visiting the White House. Donald Trump being very offensive in advance of that. Donald Trump talking about what Prime Minister Carney said he would not tolerate. Donald Trump saying, yeah, I think it should be the 51st state annexation on the table. Of course I plan to talk to Carney about annexing, which, let's be very clear, that means going to war, right? That means sending young men and women in the military to die in a war against our strongest ally, Canada. And Donald Trump has destroyed that relationship. Relationship and alliance. Like, I just want to be clear these words because, you know, I, I gave the analogy or I gave the example. You know, this weekend there's that movie, don't look up where the asteroid is hitting. And there are so many people out there trying to warn the world. Like, you see what's happening here? Do you see? Sometimes I feel like, like I'm in that movie and I'm like, he's talking about annexation. The. The ships are not coming into the ports. Trucking volumes are down to record lows. Total embargo on China. Do we realize what's going to happen? And then people are talking about everything else. Oh, well, I guess they're doing the 2026 NFL Draft at the Mall in Washington, D.C. well, that's interesting. And the market looks like it's up here and there because it's market manipulation. Because every day, if you haven't realized, they lie and they say they're having conversations with China, which is not happening. They say they're doing deals, which is not happening. Happening. What are we on day 24 or day 25 now? Since they said 90 deals in 90 days with the chiron of Peter Navarro saying we're very, very close. All you're very, very close on is your next scam to manipulate the market the very next day. That's what they do. It's the most obvious thing. And by the way, it's not just me saying this, okay? When you have the head of Apollo, one of the top private equity companies, okay, not like a podcaster like me, Apollo Private Equity saying the Brand of America has just received irreversible damage because of Donald Trump and business is at a standstill. You want to listen, you want to listen to him? You want to listen to Ken Griffin, you know, one of these private equity guys. Do you want to listen to Warren Buffett from this week? Who, who, who else if not me? Who else do you want to listen to? Anyway, I digress. Let me show you what Donald Trump said about Prime Minister Carney right here in the Kristen Welch interview. Let's play this clip.
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E
It's too early to say that. I don't want to get into that.
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Brett Meiselas
Let's move on to Canada. You have long talked about making Canada the 51st state. There's obviously a new prime minister of Canada, Mark Carney, who you spoke to after his victory. He says that you didn't talk to him in that call about making Canada a 51st state.
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E
No, he called me. He was very nice and I congratulated him. He had a victory. It's a very close victory. It's, you know, there's no majority or anything. So that's going to make things a little bit difficult, I think, for him to run, but he nevertheless had a victory. And he's a very nice man, I think.
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Brett Meiselas
Do you plan to talk to him about making Canada?
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E
He wants to come and see me. He's going to come this week or next week.
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Brett Meiselas
So will you talk to him about making Canada a 51st state annex in Canada?
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E
I'll always talk about that. You know why we subsidize Canada to the tune of $200 billion a year. We don't need their cars. In fact, we don't want their cars. We don't need their energy. We don't even want their energy. We have more than they do. We don't want their lumber. We have great lumber. All I have to do is free it up from the environmental lunatics. We don't need anything that they have. We're giving them. I asked, I asked Mr. Trudeau, who I call Governor Trudeau. I said, you know, not Prime Minister. Governor. I said, Governor Trudeau, could I ask you one question? Why are we giving you 200 billion and why are we subsidizing Canada? If Canada was a state, it wouldn't cost us. It would be great. It would be such a great. It would be a cherished state.
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Ben Miceli
Now, Prime Minister Carney's made the decision to do this visit. It's obviously a high stakes visit that he's doing because if he's sitting there in the room while Donald Trump's using language like that and if he just sits there and smiles, I think a lot of the goodwill that Prime Minister Carney has built in really changing the dynamic of that election, I think he could lose that in a second on this visit if Donald Trump does that and Prime Minister Carney doesn't push back. So very, very, very high stakes. Donald Trump, though, also on Air Force One as he returned. This was so odd, this Air Force One thing that he did. He held this press conference on Air Force One impromptu to, as he was heading back to, from Mar a Lago to Washington D.C. last night. And he would just like, yell at the reporters. He'd go like one by one and like, and like shout at them, yell at this reporter, yell at that reporter. So he was yelling here at the Wall Street Journal reporter and saying the Wall Street Journal are agents of China and that they're really bad. And just like, look at, look at the venom spewing from this deranged, demented face case. Here, play this clip.
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F
Who you with?
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E
That's what.
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Jordy Rosenberg
Well, you.
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E
You people treat us so badly. Wall Street Journal has truly got to hell. Go ahead.
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F
A rotten newspaper. What? I said it's a rotten newspaper.
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E
I wouldn't tell the Wall Street Journal because it'd be wasting my time. There are talks, but I don't want to talk to them. We'll take care of the. Look, Wall Street Journal is China oriented and they're really bad for this country.
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Ben Miceli
The Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who owns fox. Donald Trump berates the reporter and then says, did you hear what I said? Do you hear what I said? He says, you're China oriented. What the hell does that even mean? And just be clear, that's how he's treating the Wall Street Journal. Because the Wall Street Journal is reporting on the impact of tariffs. They're supportive of Trump. They've endorsed Trump. They go very light on Trump. They gave Trump every benefit of the doubt. And all they're doing now is reporting on what the tariffs are doing. Remember my example, don't look up. All they're saying is look, that looks. They're not even going the full distance of what they should be saying right now, right? They're just saying looks like a common comet. Looks like a comet's come in everybody. And that pisses off the authoritarian in Donald Trump because no, it's not like a miracle. It's all going to go away. None of this is actually happening. And stop complaining. Stop. Little girls, by the way, why does he keep bringing up a little girls? Like that's the example that he always goes back to. Beautiful little girls and their dolls he brings up over and over again. They need 37 dolls. They need 250 pencils. First off, no one has $37. I understand that Trump has golden toilet bowls and he raised his kids like driving, you know, like the kids would have like the most expensive stuff and like, like, like here's a photo for our audio listeners of Trump Melania Barron in the, in the gold department that they live in like, or maybe fake gold, but who knows? That's not the experience of, of 99.9999999. Sometimes they want there to be like they don't have golden strollers. Maybe sometimes people want one doll they can't afford or maybe people just want to put food on the table for their kids and they're living paycheck to paycheck. And even though Donald Trump claims that he's solved inflation and that gas is 187 and grocery prices are all down and housing is magically more affordable, no, you know what a mortgage rate is right now? It's about 6.9%. It's about 7%, significantly higher right now. And you could keep on lying, but the reality is, is that I understand your MAGA mush brain cult followers will go, Donald says it's 198. Donald Trump claims mortgage rates are 2% even though I see it's 6.9%. Maybe I just listened to him. I don't know, but most Americans can actually see it and feel it. And we know you're a frickin liar. We know that's why your approval rating is sub 40 in a lot of polls right now. And on the economy, 35, 34%. Here's Donald Trump with Kristen Welker. I'm going to show you him say this a few times, but here he is with Kristen Welker talking about little girls and beautiful girls that only have two dolls. Here, play this clip.
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Brett Meiselas
Talk about the terrorists. And I want to ask you about something you said this week got a lot of attention. You were at your cabinet meeting, you said quote, I'm going to quote what you said. Maybe the children will have two dolls instead of 30 dolls.
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E
Yeah.
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Brett Meiselas
And maybe the two dolls will cost a couple of bucks more than they would normally. Are you saying that your tariffs will cause some prices to go up?
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E
No, I think the tariffs are going to be great for us because it's going to make us rich.
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Brett Meiselas
But you said some dolls are going to cost more. Isn't that an acknowledgement that some prices will go up?
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E
I don't think a beautiful baby girl needs, that's 11 years old needs to have $30. I think they can have $3 or $4 because what we were doing with China was just unbelievable. We had a trade deficit of hundreds of billions of dollars with China.
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Brett Meiselas
When you say they could have $3 instead of $30, are you saying you say they don't need Americans could see empty store shelves.
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E
No, I'm, no, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying they don't need to have $30 dollars. They can have three. They don't need to have 250 pencils. They can have five.
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Brett Meiselas
But you're basically saying there could be some supply choices because of waste money.
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E
On a trade deficit with China for things we don't need. For junk that we don't need.
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Ben Miceli
Well, junk that we don't need. And also it should be noted that as part of this like embargo with China, China's not sending over the rare earth minerals that become component parts in a lot of our electronics. So right now we are utilizing supply that companies stocked up on believing that Trump worst case scenario. And the worst case scenario is happening for those audio listeners. Brett just pulled up a meme right here. Pull it up one more time. And it's a MAGA supporter. When Senator Bernie Sanders says we should improve healthcare via tax hikes on the 1%. The MAGA Red Hat supporter, cult member Goes, this sounds like North Korean Communist hogwash. But then Donald Trump says, your kid only needs one doll and you need to be punished for watching foreign films. Because Donald Trump also said that he was going to put tariffs on films that were produced in other countries. The Red Hat Trump MAGA supporters go, sure thing, Donald. Sure thing, Donald.
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Jordy Rosenberg
Jordy, here's my thing, and I don't want to, I don't want to feel like I'm bullying Kristen Walkey here, because I'm not. But here's my issue. She holds his hand so much through this interview that she starts to try and interpret his words for him to sanewash what he's saying. She's treating him like any normal president or any normal person, or that he's, that she's having a conversation with someone who's intellectually all there. When at the end of the day, like, you just put up that transcript simply of what he says, his brain's mushed. This person has the nuclear codes and we're just okay with this. Kristen Walker, don't interpret. So what you're saying is there could be a trade deficit. No, actually ask him what he's trying to say. Have him physically articulate it, because he can't. Going back to the Air Force One, he was extra unhinged on Air Force One yelling at those reporters. And by the way, everybody knows a sick burn really lands when you have to be like, like, hey, did you hear what I said? Do you hear? Do you hear my sick burn? Do you hear what I said? The guy's a complete fool. But my theory on why he was extra unhinged on Air Force One, he's still not over the Terry Moran interview, that now he's back on his home turf. Right when Terry Moran made, made him look like a fool in the one on one interview. Now Trump feels like he's back in his home turf on Air Force One. He gets to bully these reporters. He's got his, he's got his friends to back him up. He's got his friendly reporters in there to back him up. He can act like a total jag off. And every single day this guy gets more and more unhinged. And corporate media treats this like it's normal behavior that we're supposed to and expect to see from someone who holds this high of an office, the highest office in America. Are you kidding me?
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Jordan Cohen
That's why I think sometimes with Trump, what you have to do is just write his words verbatim or just show what he says completely unedited. Because when people read his words on paper, when they hear it just long form, not with the media interpretations of what he's saying or what he's trying to say, you see just how deranged he is. Donald Trump likes to say in these trade negotiations that aren't happening, Donald Trump likes to say they don't have the cards about the other countries. Right? He always says they don't have the cards. Not only does Donald Trump not have the cards, Donald Trump is simply not playing with a full deck. And we are seeing that now every day when we watch him, it seems to get worse and worse and worse. Today, he was asked about this new ridiculous plan that he hatched over the weekend about Alcatraz, where he goes, okay, we're going to reopen Alcatraz. Alcatraz hasn't been open for what, 60 years as a prison? It's like a museum right now. It's a tourist attraction. It's the national parks. It's a popular tourist attraction. And one of the reasons it was shut down is because it was far too expensive to operate. It was just incredibly inefficient to operate. But Donald Trump, apparently, what some reporters are saying online right now is that on public access TV in Palm beach over the weekend, the movie Escape From Alcatraz was playing and Donald Trump happened to catch a little bit of it. And Donald Trump hatched an idea to reopen Alcatraz. That is what folks are saying. And at first I thought that sounds a little outlandish, but then Donald Trump was asked about it today, and he started speaking about movies and that, how he should have been a filmmaker and how maybe he actually is a great filmmaker and went on this really bizarre rant when asked about Alcatraz, about movies. Now, let's just break down Donald Trump's response to this question here, because it is truly just Donald Trump at his most unhinged and jordy. It goes to exactly what you were saying. So first, let's go to the first clip here where Donald Trump is asked about this. And you'll see how, how he started off his response.
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E
How did you decide to reopen Alcatraz? Can you walk us through that decision?
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Brett Meiselas
Did I say what to reopen Alcatraz?
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Jordy Rosenberg
How will you use it?
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E
How did you come up with the idea? Well, I guess I was supposed to be a moviemaker. We're talking. We started with the movie making. It will end. I mean, it represents something very strong, very powerful in terms of law and order. Our country needs law and order. Alcatraz is, I would say, the ultimate right. Alcatraz, Sing Sing and Alcatraz, the movies. But it's right now a museum. Believe it or not. A lot of people go there.
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Jordan Cohen
Believe it or not. It's a popular tourist destination. Like, we believe it. It's been like that for like six years. But Trump wasn't done there. He goes on for, let's just play the next, like 40 seconds or so.
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E
And nobody ever escaped. One person almost got there, but they, as you know the story, they found his clothing rather badly ripped up and it was a lot of shark bites. A lot of, lot of problems. Nobody's ever escaped from Alcatraz and just represented something strong having to do with law and order. We need law and order in this country. Country. And so we're going to look at it. Some of the people up here are going to be working very hard on that. And we had a little conversation. I think it's going to be very interesting. We'll see if we can bring it back in large form, add a lot. But I think it represents something right now. It's a big hulk that's sitting there rusting and rotting.
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Jordan Cohen
What, What? But no, he wasn't done with his response. Let's play a little bit more of that.
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E
But it sort of represents something that's both horrible and beautiful and strong and miserable. Weak. It's got a lot of. It's got a lot of qualities that are interesting and I think they, they make a point.
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Jordy Rosenberg
Okay, so here's why I have a hard time watching SNL sometimes. It's that, that James Austin Johnson who does the Trump impression. Who does. He's really good of a job. I mean, I think we need a new segment. Was that James Austin Johnson or Donald Trump? How does this guy speak? He. He doesn't like. What are we. What in the mush brains are we listening to? And if former President Joe Biden got up there. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. If he got up there and started talking like this, he would be put in an assisted care facility the next day by corporate media. Where is that? Where is the pushback there, Ben?
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Ben Miceli
I haven't even got into that. We, for our viewers who are watching this on, on YouTube and video, there's the transcript. Just take a photo of it for our audio listeners. You can go to our YouTube and just take a photo. We posted it on our social medias as well. Of what Donald Trump actually said there. You can judge for yourself. I'm not going to repeat those words. Again, I think it would be painful, but take a screenshot of that. We haven't even got into. When Donald Trump posted AI images of himself dressed as the Pope or pretending to be the pope, Pope as the world still mourns the death of Pope Francis, he posted it on his personal account, his official account, the White House account, and the official President of the United States account. So it went on all three accounts. When Donald Trump was asked about it in the Oval Office today, he said, I had nothing to do with it. He said, maybe AI did it. Maybe that's what happened there. And then you have people like Cardinal Dolan as well. And maybe we'll show this when we get back, though, giving Donald Trump kind of a pass also, right? You're Cardinal, the Catholic Church, the top leader of the Catholic Church in the United States. And he kind of tried to avoid it by, like, speaking Latin also and, like, not addressing the question. It's like, okay, first off, you can just speak what's happening and just condemn it.
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Jordan Cohen
It.
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Ben Miceli
There's a lot of Catholic groups who did condemn it, and I give them credit. You don't have to be a Catholic group to condemn it. It's offensive regardless of anyone who passed away. And you're kind of mocking the person in AI images, whether you're religious, you know, or not. But I compare Cardinal Dolan's response to Mary and Bud, the bishop of Washington, and the cathedral in Washington, D.C. the National Cathedral, how she spoke truth to power at the inauguration during the proceedings that took place there. And my wife nailed it. She goes, ben, didn't you notice how the woman bishop stood up to him and said to his face how to do it? And the male cardinal would not even. Would just, yeah, you know, I don't even know what's going on. You know, maybe didn't mean maybe he didn't do it. And I think about that also there as I see Roger Goodell in the background, the commissioner of the NFL. I want to talk about Roger Goodell being in the background, because you all have to remember I represented Colin Kaepernick. So I was there when Roger Goodell put out statements, you know, embracing Trump in the first administration. That was very detrimental, in my opinion, to Kaepernick. And then Goodell, after George Floyd was murdered, tried to act like he was apologetic. And now Goodell is right there in the Oval Office with Donald Trump. And it's people like Adele, honestly, who kind of just move with whatever they think the power centers are that really are, in my view, view equally as problematic as the Trumps themselves, right? Pretend to be allies and not, and then they aren't and they move back and forth. It's, it's very, very problematic behavior. Let's take our last quick break of the show. As a reminder, go to store midas touch.com check out midas plus.com when we come back. I also want to show some clips of Fox Carl Rove on Fox last night. Top GOP political strategist saying saying it's pretty obvious why Donald Trump's polling is in the toilet bowl right now because what the hell? What the hell are you doing? And Trump was watching that go down as he was watching Fox as Karl Rove was saying that. And then he was like rage posting last night also. Anyway, let's take our last quick break of the show.
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Jordy Rosenberg
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Ben Miceli
All of this going on, There's a lot of stories that aren't being discussed which given the size of Our platform, I think it's important that we talk about before I get into Donald Trump claiming that he thinks that AI may have posted the image of himself as the Pope and he doesn't know who did it, even though it was on his accounts. Then he also said that he thinks it's funny. But remember, Donald Trump previously said it was a joke joke, and it was just in jest when he said that he would end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. Remember, Donald Trump told Time magazine that it was a funny, that he was just joking and that the fake news is to blame for taking him seriously. But notice that's how he operates with all of the stuff that he does. It's a joke. Everything's a joke. Everything's a joke. And I'm reminded of that Turkish proverb, right, that when the clown enters the palace, he doesn't become the king, the palace becomes the circus, or words to that effect. But no offense to clowns and circuses. I like clowns. Are okay, I like clowns. I don't like fascist clowns or fascist circuses. But like, just, just take a look at this. Enrique Tarrio, the leader of the Proud Boys, he was hanging out at Mar a Lago this weekend and partying with Donald Trump. When I read this, I was like, is this real? It is, it is. Enrique Tarrio posted. I just had a great conversation with the President of the United States States. He called me and my mother over while we were at dinner and said he was sorry for what Joe Biden did to the January Sixers. He knew the hardships me and my family faced for three long years. He knew how many times they moved me. And he said he is working on making things right. I thanked him for giving me my life back. He replied with I love you guys to the January Sixers. He wanted me to send y'all a message. He said, thank you. And this has been confirmed now by numerous media sources. White and White House officials confirmed that Trump had the conversation last night with Enrique Tarrio. Enrique Tarrio was sentenced to 22 years in prison by Judge Timothy Kelly, a Trump appointed judge. And Judge Kelly again, who Trump appointed, said Tarrio was the ultimate leader for January 6th. This is a direct quote from the Trump appointed judge who sentenced Tarrio to 22 years, quote. It is kind of hard to put into words how important that a peaceful transfer of power is. Our country was founded as an experiment in self government by the people. But it cannot long endure if the way we elect our leaders is threatened with force. And violence. Judge Kelly said during the sentencing, quote, what happened that day on January 6th did not honor our founders. It was the kind of thing they wrote the constitution to prevent against. Again, a Trump appointed judge said that when sentencing thing. Enrique Tarrio, who was partying with Donald Trump at Mar a Lago this past week. And again, there shouldn't be a Democrat or Republican thing when it comes to due process. It shouldn't be a Democrat or Republican thing. When I'm observing all of these things and showing you what Trump's saying and posting AI images of himself and talking about annexing Canada. By the way, in the interview, Donald Trump also said that he has not ruled out using military force force against Greenland. Again, an ally of ours in NATO is Denmark. Greenland's part of the kingdom of Denmark. That's what Donald Trump said in the interview. Just threatening our own NATO allies right now. Again, this shouldn't be Democratic or Republican things. By the way, Donald Trump doesn't even talk about. Did you notice that Donald Trump never even talks about the minerals deal with Ukraine? Like, like it was all they talked about and now that they did one, because it was actually a pretty good deal for President Zelensky to try to get some security guarantees as well. Well for Ukraine. And Donald Trump was so desperate to do a deal. Trump's kind of embarrassed about the deal and the MAGA base hates that that deal was done with Zelensky and it was actually done on Zelinsky's. You notice they don't even like talk about that and they try to bury that story, but that's all we were actually hearing about.
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Jordan Cohen
It is interesting to watch the kind of the Maggie influencers when stuff like that happens because like we're finding out right now that Trump is actually now sending some advanced air defense systems to Ukraine. Like he's sending more weapons to Ukraine, which is the thing that they always got mad at President Biden about. And they just don't say anything. When, when Trump does it, it's always interesting like when he actually like finally relents and does the right thing on certain issues that they actually can't celebrate. Like things that might actually be okay. Like, like they totally memory hold the fact that Trump was the one who helped like usher it. Like who did the vaccine? Like who did Operation Warp Speed. Like if I were, you know, know the President of the United States when the vaccine, the COVID vaccine was developed. To me that's something that you want to brag about. I know Trump had nothing to actually do with you know, doing the vaccine itself. But like, you think that would be like something that you'd say, oh, that was an accomplishment of my administration. We advanced science. No, they, they don't. They pretend that never even happened. And they pretend like that happened because of like Fauci and that it was an evil thing. Like, it's just like it's the craziest thing to kind of get into, you know, you don't even want to, but to get into the mindset of this kind of right wing MAGA ecosystem. What I would love to do is then experiment. And we all know what the result would be of this experiment. But you ask people, you say, president Biden just did X, Y and Z. What do you think about it? Donald Trump just did X, Y and Z. What do you think about it? And watch them give two completely different answers. I want to hear President Biden just is offering $1,000 of taxpayer money to immigrants who are here illegally to self deport. President Biden wants to give taxpayer money to people who are here illegally, legally to go back to their home countries. How do you feel about that? I'm going to say that the maga, the Trump supporter, is going to have a much different answer to that question than the things they are saying about Donald Trump's idea to do just that that he announced today. That's all I'm saying.
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Jordy Rosenberg
We should 100% do this. Let's hit up our guy, Adam Mockler, and next Trump rally that he appears at, he should do that exact question that you just posed. But President Biden just did this, or President Biden did this during his administration. The $1,000. What do you think about, about this and just get the responses.
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Jordan Cohen
It's a great job for Mockler. Great job. Yeah, we'll talk to that about it.
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Ben Miceli
I mean, President Biden's comprehensive bipartisan immigration bill would have enhanced immigration judges in order to expedite deportations of people who may have criminal histories or who shouldn't be here. But it would be done in a respectful way that preserved human dignity. And Donald Trump killed that bill. And now Donald Trump's whining and saying, well, we can't, we can't do trials anymore. That was one. I don't need to play all these clips of Trump, but Trump says we don't, we don't need, there's too many trials that are happening. I want judges who don't do trials. Huh? You don't, you want judges who don't do trials. Again, Jordy, if former President Biden Said that it would be an impeachable offense. I mean, any one of these things would be impeachable offenses, invoke the 25th amendment type stuff. And it would have happened. And it would have happened. Other news that's going under the radar, I guess pun intended. Newark Airport radar loss left controllers blind for 90 seconds. Air traffic controllers guiding planes bound for Newark Liberty International Airport lost radar and radio communications for more than a minute early last week before flights at the key hub were snarled for days. According to people familiar, this was apparently such a traumatic event for the people who worked in air traffic control that they basically took stress leave and they're already being worked so hard because of all the firings that have taken place that there's just not the resources there. I think one air traffic controller on background told cnn, do not fly into Newark airport. We are an unsafe airport. Don't come here, was what CNN reported. And you know, now what you're seeing the Trump regime secretly tried to do is now rehire people that were fired. And I've had a number of members of Congress who I've been interviewing who said that's what they're doing. They don't want to talk about it. They're trying to rehire all of these people who they fired because they don't have the staff to actually run the government anymore. And, and you know, there's a lot of bad things that can happen. Well, I guess that memo didn't go to Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth. He's ordered senior Pentagon leadership to cut the number of four star generals and admirals by at least 20% across the military, according to a memo signed by Hegseth dated Monday and obtained by cnn. Hegseth, a Fox News host with nowhere near the character and with no experience to be in the position as defense secretary, wants to get rid of four star generals. He thinks that we don't need four star generals and we should gut them. He also wants to add $1 trillion to the defense budget. But in adding the $1 trillion for a total of $1 trillion before it was like 850 billion, they wanted the total defense budget to be $1 trillion dollars, but I guess not pay for the best generals to remain on and cut them and fire the best generals. So that was going on. And then there's just a number of things that go under the radar too that I'd be remiss if I didn't highlight here. Like 19 states in Washington, D.C. have sued the Trump administration over the dismantling of the Department of Health and Human Services. The lawsuit says Trump and RFK Jr. Systematically deprived HHS of the resources necessary to do its job by firing 10,000 workers. Here are just some examples that are given in the lawsuit of the type of havoc the Trump regime has caused across the entire health system. Like this is happening right now on a daily basis. This is why I describe this moment like a don't look up moment. Miners suffering from black lung disease have been left unprotected as congressionally mandated surveillance programs were abruptly shut down. Workers have lost reliable access to N95 masks following the closure of the nation's only federal mask approval laboratory. Key Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, CDC infectious disease laboratories have been shuttered, including those responsible for testing and tracking measles, effectively halting the federal government's ability to monitor, monitor the disease. Nationwide, hundreds of employees working on mental health and addiction treatment, including half of the entire workforce at the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, have lost their jobs and the regional offices are closed. Pregnant women and newborns are now at risk after the firing of the entire CDC maternal health team. And Head Start centers could face closures after many regional employees at the office of Head Start were let go. The World Trade center health program, which provides life saving care to more than 137, 9, 11 first responders and survivors has lost the doctors needed to certify new cancer diagnoses, leaving the American heroes without access, access to health care they deserve. Also, you know, I could just, I could go across agencies, right? The Department of education has defunded $2 billion worth of mental health programs and assistance for students. The way MAGA Republicans say it's never the guns, it's just mental health and the guns have nothing to do with it. Well, now you're defunding all of the mental health research, research and efforts to help children at schools as the Department of Education shutters. And what are they spending their money on? $400 million gold plated new versions of Air Force One Ball, lavish ballrooms, Donald Trump golfing and the whole staff showing up at Mar a Lago as Donald Trump says that that little girl should only have, have two dolls based on what he wants. Little girls, two dolls, five pencils, not 250 pencils. I, I mean it's absurd. It's absurd when you look at it. Let me just show you one of these clips. As I said, I was going to show it. Donald Trump in the Oval Office being asked if he thinks it's offensive that he Posted this image of himself as the Pope. Let's just play one of these clips, okay?
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E
Yes, ma'am. Thank you, Mr. President. Some Catholics were not so happy about the image of you looking like the Pope. Oh, I see. You mean they, they can't take a joke. You don't mean the Catholics. You mean the fake news media, not the Catholics. Loved it. I had nothing to do with it. Somebody made up a picture of me dressed like the Pope and they put it out on the Internet. That's not me that did it. I have no idea where it came from. Maybe it was AI, but I know nothing about it. I just saw it last even evening, actually. My wife thought it was cute. She said, isn't that nice? My question about, actually I would not be able to be married, though that would be a lot. I'd have. To the best of my knowledge, popes aren't big on getting married, are they? Not that we know of. No. No. I think it's the fake news media that, you know, they, they're fakers.
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Ben Miceli
When I see Roger Goodell. Thank you, Mayor Bowser. There's Roger Goodell. Goodell. And Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL. Right. How much money does good? He makes $55 million a year or $60 million a year. Something absurd. Right? So the guy's probably worth $500 million, maybe more right now. Right? He is more money than 20 generations or 30 generations or even more would ever need. Right, right. And just to think about being there, laughing at that, you know, it, it is why it is. It's, it's, it's why you really need diverse leadership. Because to, to see him so. Just. So is there anything more weak than seeing a Goodal or a Bezos or a Zuckerberg, you know, and these people with men not. Let me be clear. Men with, with billions of dollars. Who, Who, Donald? Whatever you tell. What is it like, what, you only live once, as far as I know. You're gonna go about your life just humiliating yourself like that. Like do, do, do the bros back at, at the NFL office. You, you nailed that. Goodell. Good job. Goodell. Yo, you, you, you were right there, man. So powerful. What the hell is that? Honestly? And by the way, Goodell was right there after George Floyd's murder, doing the video, you know, in the basement. I, I, I made big mistakes. We haven't been as diverse as we should be. I want to apologize to Colin Kaepernick. Remember he did that video? Video, Yeah.
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Jordan Cohen
I mean, I, I know you remember he did that video very intimately because you were very involved in all that. But it's like, I. I really don't care whether it's, you know, Goodell, whether it's Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, like, all these people. It's like, what's. What's the point of being that rich if, like, you're gonna just be so subservient to anybody? Like, isn't the point. Isn't the point of having that kind of money so that you could, like, not. So you could have the freedom to not do that? Like, you really needed to base and humiliate yourself like this, like, just every single day. I just. I cannot fathom it. And, yes, you know, Donald Trump posted it on his account, his follower, and the White House then reposted it. The President of the United States account then reposted it. It's not like he was. It's not like it was an accident. And this is also the guy, of course, who all the Trump supporters go, he writes his own content. He writes his own tweet. That's why I love him, because he. He does everything himself. Okay, so now he doesn't do everything himself. Just like, sometimes I just wish they could take the L move on, but they can't, because they just need to constantly try to own the libs. And in this situation in particular, you know, they're actually upse people who are in mourning right now. They're upsetting Catholics who are mourning Pope Francis, and now he's just out there mocking him. It's not the liberal media who's upset about this. It's the people who he's speaking about. It's the people that he's openly mocking. That's why we've seen Catholic bishops speak out. That's why we've seen other Catholic organizations speak out against this. And Donald Trump just continues to double down and triple down on what is going on here. That's why you saw Karl Rove. I. I gotta say, Ben, I'm. The only thing I'm upset about with you is that in the past few weeks, you've played clips that made me agree with Karl Rove and Steve Bannon and Ann Coulter and things like that. Like, I don't like that. Then I need to take a shower after this episode.
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Ben Miceli
I just, to be fair, Karl Rove spends the first three minutes before going into the criticism knowing Trump watches it, like, saying, he's been so great. You've been so great in deportations. You've been so.
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E
You could.
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Ben Miceli
So there's that so like, it's not just all criticism. So I will, I will say that first.
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Jordan Cohen
Well, I feel like, I feel like what Fox is constantly trying to be though, to Trump in many ways is like a crisis PR firm and also a little bit of like a therapist for Trump and like, you know, like a, like an informal advisor to Trump and they're trying to nudge him in the right direction constantly. You see Laura Ingram doing this all the time, trying to be like, you know, they try to play to his ego. You know, he'd be really strong if he did X, Y and Z. It's like, it's so pathetic when you actually kind of pick up on the cues that they're trying to send to Donald Trump. But Karl Rove is a guy obviously he was, you know, the evil mastermind of like the Bush administration. And he knows the data, he knows the numbers, he knows what's happening out there. He knows how bad things are looking for Republicans in the midterms. So he, that's his, this is his way of saying like, dude, you gotta, you gotta reel these things in. Like you gotta at least pretend to care about, you know, prices. You kind of at least pretend to care about any of this stuff that people actually elected you for because you are spiraling right now. You are completely off the rails. And so what does Trump do? Trump. Trump just attacks the guy. Jordy, what are your thoughts?
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Jordy Rosenberg
I just wanted to say this before we show that clip. Laura Ingraham basically. Not basically, Laura Ingraham dictates policy on her show because she knows Trump is watching and she knows that she could kind of handhold, hide the medicine. Get these points through to Trump every night on Fox. I just got to go back. For our audio listeners, please head to the YouTube. We just get. We're at 4.8 million subscribers on our YouTube brothers. We're about to hit 5 million. Let's go subscribe to the YouTube channel if you haven't. Sorry, quick aside there, audio listeners. If you go to the YouTube and you watch that clip of Roger Goodell and that shit eating grin, it'll just make you want to throw your laptop or your phone or whatever you have in your hand. Because Brett, I'm going to say this way less eloquently than you did. What is the point of having fuck you money if you can't say fuck you like that is such. He just got to eat that. He's just sitting back there eating whatever Trump is saying, talking about the fake news media. Catholics aren't offended I didn't post the image, me being the Pope. I mean, this utter. It's lunacy. And you got, you know, by all means, a relatively smart guy, or at least someone who's perceived as the commissioner of the NFL. Big, strong, tough, you know, brilliant business mind, just sitting back there, bright red, chuckling. Donald, you're so funny, Donald.
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Ben Miceli
This is the fun.
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Jordy Rosenberg
You're hilarious, dude. You are such a pathetic, spineless individual.
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Ben Miceli
Roger Goodell. It's my example. Don't look up, like, if you, if you go and watch this movie, too, you know, they bring on the scientists who have done the math and they know the asteroid is going to hit. And then the reporters are like, so tell us about that little science project that you did right there. So tell us about that. And then they were more focused on the fact that the Leonardo DiCaprio character was, like, handsome. So they were like, look at the stud, you know, astronomer. And they were focused, like, on, like, the love looks. And, you know, you had, you had the, the President there was like, in a scandal of, like, sexting things and, like, nude photos were out there. And so finally they want to help. I don't want to ruin the movie. So. So watch them. You know, it's, it's worth watching, but they're focused on all of the distractions. And then there's like, like the pop star breaks up with her boyfriend and they get back together, and that's. Everybody wants to talk about. About. And then the people like, yeah, but the, the asteroid is, it's, it's going to, it's going to hit. And then, you know, here with Trump saying, it's like a miracle. It's all going to go away. It's not, you know, and you know it's not, because even the Wall Street Journal is trying to speak through its pages of, of, hey, there's, there's a, there's real issues happening here. And, you know, Carl Rove and Trey Gowdy. Trey Gowdy is a former MAGA Republican Congress member, Right? He was the one who led the Benghazi hearings. Right? So this guy is a MAGA guy who's host this show on Fox or he fills in. Let me just show you three clips from this. Let's, let's play the first clip. First to you.
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F
I sat beside you and Speaker McCarthy in the grooming room the night Donald Trump won. If I'd ask you that night what the mandate for the President was, what he was receiving, what would you have said? Secure the border, stop inflation, get rid of this DEI foolishness. Make America America strong and respected again on the world stage and rebuild our military. All right. And if you were to give a progress report. I'm not into grades, but a progress report. I think sometimes people read a mandate too broadly. They think if I'm elected, I'm empowered to do whatever the heck I want. I don't remember any talk about Canada or Greenland or the Pope or for deporting US Citizens the night he was elected. Yeah, no, not at all.
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Ben Miceli
Now let me show you another clip from that interview. Let's play it.
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F
Two things he's having success. The others it's sort of incomplete. You know, we're inflation. The president is, you know, saying gas is $1.90. I just filled up my tank. It ain't $1.90 and we do not have it. Have inflation take cap down to 2% and we're going to. And we run the risk of having to jump up at least in a one time way if these tariffs are put in place. And there's a lot of concern about the economy. The President's ratings on the handling of the economy and if tariffs are in the 30s and his overall approval now is in the mid to low 40s and that's not a good place to be 100 days in plenty of time to turn that around. But he's got to be focused on those two things. I think that people wanted one more clip.
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Ben Miceli
Let me show you this one.
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F
The safety net that had been basically now being put back together for those communities which was being overburdened by the illegal immigration. So get the American people so they have, as they say, you said you'd do it and you did it and we appreciate it. But again, the important thing is, is that we elected him for a variety of of reasons that were inflation, the border dei, the military, respect for America and things like, you know, just tweeting out a picture of you as the Pope is deeply offensive to a great many people going out there and saying, for example, this guy from Maryland, I don't know whether he's a good guy or a bad guy. I don't know if he's a gang member or not. But the fact is, is bring him back to the United States, lay out the facts, acts in a court of law and get it done. Don'tit. Does no good to let that thing go out there for four or five weeks and eat away at the President's approval on immigration. Take a look at the difference between approval ratings on the border where he is in positive territory by a good margin. And handling the issue of immigration, which includes these other things, and it's significantly less and he's upside down. That shows the discernment of the American.
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Ben Miceli
People, you know, and some other good news to report as well. I mean, it's pretty wild to hear, to hear that on fox. I disagree with some of the premise of why people voted for him that Rove was saying, I mean, Trump did a rug pull. He's a Ponzi schemer, he's a fraud, he's a felon, he's a sexual abuser. I mean, he, he lied, he lied to the people about the things he was going to do. And now he's saying it was a joke and the fake news shouldn't have taken it seriously. I mean, that's the most ridiculous and offensive thing. The good news is that earlier we learned that U.S. district Court Judge Richard Myers in North Carolina ordered the North Carolina State Board of Elections to certify the win for Democratic Supreme Court Justice Allison Riggs to the Supreme Court seat in North Carolina rejected all of the MAGA candidate Griffin's election protests. The judge stayed the order for one week so Griffin may appeal. And then separately, even outside of this order, we had previously reported how Allison Riggs also got some good news over some of the, of the vote counting, even though she won the first time, she won the recount. And then the MAGA candidate tried to challenge it and got the MAGA Court of Appeals to agree with him. Then the MAGA Supreme Court in North Carolina partially agreed. Reed, Allison, Justice Allison Riggs was able to get some, you know, was able to, I think, identify a lot of the voters anyway, but that wasn't a sure thing. But it's a great ruling. It will go on appeal, but it was a good ruling by the district court judge. So look, covered a lot on today's ep, covered a lot on today's episode. As Jordy, as you said, we can cover all of these things at the same time. But the common thread throughout all of this is we should up right? We, we need to see it. We can't bury our heads. We have to recognize it. We have to fight back against it. And there's more of us than there are them. They have fear, they have threats, they have intimidation, they have lies. But we have the truth. We have hope. We have our passion. We have our love of democracy. And, and that's what's going to prevail. So keep your power. Don't let them take your power away. Ever. We'll be with you every step of the way here at the Midas Touch Network on the podcast, through all of our hosts, through all of our network of other channels. And it's an honor to do this job each and every day. That's all I got to say. Brett, Anything you want to say?
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Jordan Cohen
I'm just going to toss it over to Jordy.
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Jordy Rosenberg
Shout out to the Midas Mighty, the.
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Jordan Cohen
Might as mighty Standing strong.
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Jordy Rosenberg
Against the.
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Jordan Cohen
Fascists we sing our songs.
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F
We will.
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Ben Miceli
Get it right.
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Jordy Rosenberg
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