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Ben (Host)
Donald Trump looked like death at the G7 in France. It was perhaps the most embarrassing performance by any United States president at an international event ever, cognitively physically deteriorating before our eyes, saying some of the weirdest, oddest things to world leaders and some of the most dangerous things as well. He then went to Versailles, where he signed the purported Memorandum of understanding with Iran in in Farsi, I might add, because we know Donald Trump speaks Farsi well, hearkening back to 1919 when the Germans signed the Treaty of Versailles, surrendering in World War I. We'll talk about that Memorandum of understanding. He then returned back to Washington D.C. where he kept on talking about the stock market and how he's pumping up
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Brett (Co-host)
the markets and how amazing everything is.
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Ben (Host)
And meanwhile, he's got his propagandists continuing to post these images that aren't even the real images of the reflecting pool.
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Brett (Co-host)
The reflecting pool has just turned and
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Ben (Host)
has turned this week this Ninja Turtle green color.
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Brett (Co-host)
And now on top of it, because they've poured so much hydrogen peroxide all
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Ben (Host)
over it, it's now caused the blue
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Brett (Co-host)
paint to kind of float to the top and it looks like you have these, like, mutant stingrays swimming around the reflecting pool with this, with these algae, mutant stingrays. I don't even know what we're even at. We'll talk about that. But it is the perfect metaphor and symbolism for the Trump regime. Their cover up, their painted blue attitude and just pretend everything is going great while the American people are suffering, while our foreign policy is in shambles, while the United States is a laughing stock
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Ben (Host)
to the world that Donald Trump would
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Brett (Co-host)
always accuse others of making the United States. It really is now both a horror show and a laughing stock.
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Jordy (Co-host)
And.
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Brett (Co-host)
And we will cover this and more as well as.
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Ben (Host)
Thankfully, former President Obama and Michelle Obama spoke at the opening of the Obama Presidential Library.
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Brett (Co-host)
Because after all of this sludge and algae and grotesque thing that is this Trump regime, it warmed my heart to remember what actual leadership looks like. Decency, compassion, honor.
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Ben (Host)
We'll talk about that and more on this episode of the Midas Touch Podcast.
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Brett (Co-host)
Brett and Jordy, how are you guys doing?
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Jordy (Co-host)
Doing great. Good to be here, Ben. Good to be here. Jordan. Good to be here. Midas.
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Ben (Host)
Mighty.
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Jordy (Co-host)
Thank you for tuning in if you're watching live and thank you for listening if you're listening on Apple podcasts or Spotify or whatever audio podcast you're listening to. Thank you so much. Isn't it such a nice palate cleanser to see the Obamas out there? I mean, I think we need more of that, quite frankly. If I had one complaint about Obama, I want to see him out there more. Because every time I see him, it just, he's like the, you know, the hydrogen peroxide, so to speak, wiping away the infested algae that is the nano bubbler. He's the nano bubbler. Get to that in a second. But it really is just so refreshing. You're like, oh, yeah, that's how United States presidents speak. That's how things are supposed to be in this country. You know, I think the whole notion of what they're doing with the reflecting pool, as you said, Ben, it really is a metaphor for the way Trump handles, quote, quite literally everything. But I, I think really the more most important aspect about it is that if they're willing to lie about something so inconsequential, then of course we know they're going to lie about everything. Just like they have lied throughout this entire war, just like they're even lying right now. They lied about the terms of the Memorandum of Understanding saying that's not what the terms are at All. And then it comes out and it's like, exactly what the terms are. Like, everyone's worst fears as to what was actually in this document is what was there. And then they just now to relentlessly post online, like, lethality. America only wins another victory. Flawless. And it's like you lost. Like, you lost just like, like, stop. Like, it makes you look weak, it makes you look insecure. It makes the whole country look like a joke. I know you've already done that already, but like you're, you're digging your hole even deeper. And everybody involved in this administration is really going to be stained by the stench of Trump and all these policies. But let's get into it first. We gotta toss it over to Jordy. Jordi, what's the latest?
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Jordi (Co-host)
Brothers Midas, mighty great to be here. Pumped to get into tonight's show. Benji, back to you. Where are we starting off tonight?
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Brett (Co-host)
You know what I didn't think about
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Ben (Host)
before this Trump regime? Nanobubblers.
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Brett (Co-host)
Treasury yields, the Strait of Hormuz, the
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Ben (Host)
tank loads that VLCCs can hold.
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Brett (Co-host)
I didn't think about these strategic reserves all that frequently. There are things that you take for
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Ben (Host)
granted because experts and people handling things
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Brett (Co-host)
with regularity and normalcy would, would, would do certain things. And so you wouldn't be thinking about,
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Ben (Host)
oh, how's the nano bubbler working in the reflecting pool?
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Brett (Co-host)
And whether there were issues or not,
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Ben (Host)
issues with the reflecting pool in the
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Brett (Co-host)
past, it wasn't hoisted up as the major cause of, of a prior presidential administration. But this Trump regime, all they've talked
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Ben (Host)
about is the reflecting pool. The reflecting pool.
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Brett (Co-host)
And they use the reflecting pool to attack Obama and Biden. Their reflecting pool was disgusting. And we're going to make the greatest reflecting pool. And the same thing about the arches and the ballrooms and all of this, you know, stuff that the American people like, hey, hello. Healthcare, please. Homes, please. Housing affordability. What in the world are you doing? You're doing more never ending war. Can you stop that? And can you focus on. You're doing a $300 billion fund to Iran when basically you did a deal that is weaker than Obama's JCPOA deal and weaker than the deal that Oman negotiated back on February 27 before Netanyahu brought us into this unlawful and catastrophic war in the first place.
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JD Vance (Guest or Referenced Politician)
Hello?
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Brett (Co-host)
What in the hell is. What in the hell is going on? So we'll start off just by showing you this post from the Interior Department's social media account, because again, it's symbolic of everything we're gonna Talk about on this episode, the advanced nano bubbler technology the Trump regime writes very effectively killed the algae that has plagued every Lincoln reflecting pool reopening, most infamously, Obama's reopening since 1922.
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Ben (Host)
Just pause there. We all remember the infamous Obama reopening of the reflecting pool.
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Brett (Co-host)
I know that was all on the top of everybody's mind. Do you remember the infamous reopening of Obama reflecting pool? Or you go back to the 1922 reflecting pool? No, Donald. I think people with a sense of history are more likely to remember the Treaty of Versailles signed by Germany in 1922 in Versailles than the grand opening of the 1922 reflecting pool, because I think there are certain hierarchy of world events and things that impact people. But, you know, that's just me. Let's pull up that message one more time, because then the Trump regime says the reflecting pool water is crystal clear.
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Ben (Host)
And our National Park Service team is
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Brett (Co-host)
now vacuuming up the dead algae resting
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Ben (Host)
on the bottom of some parts of the reflecting pool.
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Brett (Co-host)
Just like. And this is what they write the destroyed Iranian navy with resting on the
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Ben (Host)
bottom of the Persian Gulf.
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Brett (Co-host)
Like, they make the metaphor perfect because the Iranian navy isn't resting at the bottom of the water. I don't even understand the point other than to make the point that I'm making, which is that you lie about everything. The Iranian navy's there. That's why they call the Strait of Hormuz. Their ballistic missiles are there. Their ability to enrich uranium is there. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard is there. And everything you've told us about the war is a lie. And everything which we could see and observe with our own eyes, and everything you say about this reflecting pool, which you've now made your biggest cause versus what the American people are actually going through, we can see with our eyes. And, you know, the Trump regime's plan was, first we're going to paint it blue and say it's great. Then that didn't work because algae, Algae is a thing. The water source hasn't changed. It's the Potomac Basin. That's what happened and what led to a lot of the algae being built up. Shallow waters, very humid disease, a swamp algae is microscopic, asexual sexual reproduction. Algae spawns, it grows, it spreads, it's hard to stop. And that's one of the main issues that we have with this algae. And so the Trump regime says, let's. Let's pour hydrogen peroxide on it. Okay, you know what that's going to do? In addition to make the reflecting Pool like now a death trap for ducks. What it's also going to do is going to rip apart the blue paint because that's what hydrogen peroxide does. So now they've created these. They're like mutant stingray looking things that are the blue paint that kind of form these like mutant fish looking things. And it's like, what in the hell is going. You see, for those on audio, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Like on the right hand side, you can, you can see it. But that is everything with this, with this Trump regime. That is their policy with Iran. And so when they talk about this MoU, they act like we won. But you read the document and it is not a document of the side that wins. I've told you before, my view, we should never been in this catastrophic and unlawful war in the first place. That said, of all of the options since we were in this war, escalating
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Ben (Host)
it was the wrong decision.
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Brett (Co-host)
We were days at most weeks away from hitting tank bottom, which Trump admitted when he was at the G7, which would have meant we would have run out of oil. You would have went to the gas station, there would have been none there and it would have created a global depression and mass panic. We were days at most weeks away from that. There was an economic depression that we
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Ben (Host)
were on the verge of as well, which Trump admitted to also.
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Brett (Co-host)
And so that's why, you know, in Iran successfully choked the Strait of Hormuz, they took the United States bombings and maintained a lot of their capabilities and forced Donald Trump into a submission. And Trump blinked. And so this was the only solution that existed. So I don't want you to believe or get the wrong idea when I'm critical of this deal. I actually believe of all of the available options, given that Donald Trump got us in this catastrophic unlawful war, that this, that this deal is the right thing of all of the wrong options. But where I want to be critical of is all of the promises, everything that was sold, everything that was claimed. And even to this day, when they act like this thing was stronger than Obama's, like it objectively isn't, it's not even a deal. It's a memorandum of understanding that has future discussions about frameworks in the future or whatever, I hope it works out because the American people are suffering. When I heard today that gas prices nationally, whether this is true or not, this is what the data from the gas industry saying, 399 a gallon, it's under 4. If that's true, that's great. I want to root for the fact that people need relief right now. But this, all of this, the $300 billion fund, the gas prices go, all of this, the suffering has been caused by Trump, a warmonger, Trump and Vance and all of these people who are now out there saying that they're the firefighters when they are the arsonists in the first incident. One more point I'll point out, then I'll throw it to you, Brett. You know, with this $300 billion fund, when they go, oh, you know, the $300 billion, it's not the United States, that's taxpayer dollars that's going one Donald Trump said the same thing about the east wing of the ball, the ballroom, that no taxpayer dollars are going to. We know he lies about these things. Okay? So just that very basic point I'm going to say he's probably lying about and taxpayers, my guess, are directly paying for it. But even if it wasn't, so you are now the champion of a $300 billion investment in Iran when you took out, for example, 200 to $300 billion in investments in rural hospitals and in things that the United States needs. So your fight was a $300 billion fund for Iran while you ripping away the American people's health care. So of course it impacts the American people. On a cost benefit analysis of how the American people are suffering as a
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Ben (Host)
result of this, Brett and Journey, I'll
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Brett (Co-host)
turn it over to you.
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Jordy (Co-host)
Well, well said, Ben. And I think you have to acknowledge, you know, two things that may seem contradictory when you say it, but the first thing is this was a surrender. I mean, it's objectively a surrender. And I actually find it interesting now that when, if you even go to Wikipedia, the Wikipedia page for this war, the editors have since added when it looks, when it says the result of the war for 2026 Iran war, it says result Iranian victory. And it this memorandum, it says regime change, failure, straight up Hormuz crisis, escalation of the Israeli Hezbollah conflict, global economic disruption and fuel crisis. So the objective kind of data surrounding this war points to the fact that this was a surrender for the United States. In addition to that, I could point you to a age old adage, idiom, if you will, to the victor goes the spoils. Okay? The winning country is getting a lot of money out of this. And you could say it's coming directly from the United States or you could say it's coming nations in the Middle east who are going to do it. Either way, it's coming from the United States in some capacity, because we're going to be funding those nations as well. And this is the kind of thing that Republicans would endlessly go after Obama about and Biden about when they didn't do anything even close to this ever. All Obama and Biden maybe did was unfreeze Iran's funds that they already had, something that Trump is doing as well with this memorandum of understanding at actually a greater scale. But in addition to that, giving them a $300 billion reconstruction fund to build. So you have the United States spending, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars for the war and now managing this $300 billion fund to give Iran so that they could rebuild. I think that's a pretty good sign that Iran has won this thing. I mean, when you look at it, and, you know, I could. I could pull up all the receipts of Don Jr. And Trump and. And all these various people saying the criticisms about, like, Obama unfreezing $6 billion and, you know, trying to play politics with that. Well, I mean, your dad, or in this Donald Trump, he just did it to a much greater extent. And I think, you know, as somebody who wants to support the United States of America, I think we should all, frankly, be rooting for this thing to succeed, even though it is a surrender, even though it is an utter disaster. I think we hope that it restrains some of the fighting in the region. But, you know, I. I don't think any of the sides have necessarily given us confidence to believe that this is going to be some sort of enduring peace, but I sure hope it is. I hope it is because this is about real lives, about the economic disruption of everybody. So I genuinely, from the bottom of my heart, hope it works out. I'm just. I'm not partisan in that way where I'm going to just trash something because Trump did it. I think it's a terrible deal. But I agree with you, Ben. I think it's the best of all the. All the kind of various options that were on the table. I wish this was a deal then, and we would have gotten a better deal, by the way. But I wish this was a version a memorandum of understanding that was reached before Donald Trump decided to drop bombs on the country and throw the entire world into chaos and disrupt the oil markets, disrupt the energy markets, kill a bunch of innocent girls, kill our troops. That would have been great if this was it. And by the way, that still would have been weaker than Obama's jcpoa. What would have been even the best is if Trump just back in the day, in his first term, actually kept Obama's deal, which is far stronger than this. But, you know, Trump made his bed, now he's lying in it. Unfortunately, we all have to lie in it as well. So given these current circumstances of the way the world is currently structured, I certainly hope this works out. We already see a lot of signs that Israel and Hezbollah are still fighting. Israel killed a few people earlier today in Hezbollah. This is another one of kind of Iran's red lines around the MoU. So I'm incredibly worried about that. You're starting to see Trump and Vance and people in the administration finally try to use their power to speak against some of the actions of Israel. It feels a little late at this point. And as Ben said, these are the arsonists now trying to pretend to be the firefighters. And I also don't trust that that is going to be an enduring stance from Trump and Vance and all of these folks. They should have been, you know, pushing this anyway. I mean, you, you need to constrain everybody in the region, quite frankly, or else you're going to have this tit for tat, tit for tat, tit for tat that goes on for years and years and years. The way we've basically seen these sorts of fights in that region go on for years and years and years and years and years. And so I hope this is a chance, you know, where, where we could see some sort of semblance of peace and, and a rebuilding of, of the Middle east and. But, you know, hope, hope isn't a strategy. And we don't have the, the smartest people, you know, running things here. And so, you know, we'll. We'll have to wait and see. But I, I truly, from the bottom of my heart, I hope this thing works out for the betterment of
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Interviewer or Additional Guest
been
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Jordy (Co-host)
in this war in the first place, in my views, and a legal war. And I think the sooner we get out of that region, the better. We just should not be doing these things. How many times do we have to do this and learn our lesson? And quite frankly, all of the other people, I hope, you know, instead of gaslighting themselves into thinking we won, I hope they realize that we did lose and that this was a surrender and that this was a humiliation for the United States because the next time that they decide that they want to do something like this, I hope they have a second thought and go, maybe it's not a great idea to invade a country in the Middle east because it's not going to work out. So, well, for our country, for the world, for our citizens, for our soldiers, it's just not a good idea. Let's try to pursue a path of diplomacy. And frankly, the fact that Mark Levin and Netanyahu and all the most radical people out there are against this thing at least makes me to some respect and on some level be like, okay, so maybe it's not that bad after all. You know, it's horrible for the United States. But like I said, if, if, if I don't want to pursue an option of war hawks, you know, and I don't want to be dragged into more war, more violence, more bloodshed, more explosions, I don't think that works out well for anybody. And these same people who constantly have pushed us into these wars over the past few decades are the same ones who want to just drag this war out again. I think it's up to us to say, enough, enough of the war. You lost, you humiliated the United States. Let's move on, let's rebuild, and let's try to figure out how to actually make the best out of this horrific situation that you've caused.
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Jordi (Co-host)
Exactly. Be really well said. For me, it like, comes down to, like, good mou, bad mou. That's not even how I view this, like, in the whole context, personally. For me, it just always comes back to, what was the point of all of this? Like, genuine what was the point? This was a war of choice by Donald Trump and he got our service members killed, which he downplays every single time he's asked about it. It's absolutely disgusting and just a total failure of any sort of accountability and leadership that you expect a president to take. It's really pathetic and should outrage everyone. Our gas prices just hiked, skyrocketed. People were furious. They still are. And look, regime change, no regime change happened. It was a complete failure. And again, what was this for all to seemingly reopen the straight of her moves like that was open before we inserted ourselves into this in the first place. I have no understanding of why Donald Trump decided to do this, because we're basically just back in the same situation, but now less well off because of it. It's absolutely pathetic, man. What was the point of this? What, to bomb a little girl school? This was absolutely pathetic. A total abdication of leadership from Donald Trump in that of his presidency. The Trump regime should be humiliated and they should feel this embarrassment for years to come.
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Ben (Host)
Yeah, when you talk about rebuild, we need to rethink and restructure and reevaluate in general like what we are even doing, because a lot of the kind of fundamental assumptions of the United States presence in the Middle east, you know, is wrong and was inflaming problems and creating more instability. And that's why, as you mentioned, when you have Netanyahu and you have Mark Levin and you have Smootherich and Ben GVIR and all of these people you know out there who are saying, well,
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Jordy (Co-host)
we're not leaving Lebanon, it's not yours,
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Brett (Co-host)
it's not yours to be in, it's Lebanon's Lebanon, you know, and stop, stop
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Ben (Host)
blowing up buildings in Lebanon, stop the genocide in Gaza.
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Brett (Co-host)
And when I hear J.D.
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Ben (Host)
vance saying things like that, I go, on the one hand, Brett, to your
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Brett (Co-host)
point earlier, the complex thoughts, I agree with what J.D. vance is saying on June 18, but this was J.D. vance basically having a debate with J.D. vance from February 27, when J.D. vance and Donald Trump, Trump and Hegseth and Rubio and this whole war criminal regime went into this war. And so within a span of a few months, an entire ideological change has occurred. And the Trump regime tries to sell this as, oh, it occurred because we won. When it's like, no, you all went in under the assumptions that you would be greeted as heroes, but you were viewed as war criminals, warmongers, people trying to conquer and impose their will, and you were resisted and you lost. And now you're changing the view very transactionally. And so it feels so abrupt. And so as we assess JD's behavior and Trump's behavior and all of this behavior, we can, we have to hold these complex thoughts, but also know that we're inherently dealing with deceitful, lying, shitty humans who will change this view tomorrow if it suits them, and the day after. So who? When I see a clip of J.D. vance seemingly standing up to Israel in the sense of stop these bombings of Beirut buildings and Dyer and tire. Stop doing this, I go to my, I'm shaking my head and saying, well, I agree with JD Vance. But then also I'm saying, is this even. Who is this guy? This is a guy who's changed his name three or four different times. This is a guy with multiple identities who called Trump Hitler and then loved Trump and then this and that. These aren't people who have any core sense of beliefs, values or ideas. And it shifts overnight, very transactionally.
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Jordy (Co-host)
I'll say this, Ben, say, say what you want about me or us. Like, I like to think we're pretty ideologically consistent, even though a lot of the Trump people are like, you just hate Trump. No he stands for against all the values that, that I stand for. He's against all of them. So, yes, generally that leads me to hating everything he does. You know, but, you know, I mean, he, the fact is he's, he's said stuff in the past few days, all randomly that I'm like, oh, yeah, no, I, I agree. You know, they, okay, you said that we were, had unlimited oil and we were never going to run out of oil and we didn't need the Middle East. Then all of a sudden, yesterday, you said that we were going to be in a Great depression because oil was going to run out in four weeks. And yeah, I agree with that. That's what we've been saying. But when Donald Trump says that, he's like, you know, we have four more weeks and, and all the stupid people were telling me we had to keep going. No, you were telling you. That was you. Okay? You were the one saying that. You were the one acting like we had unlimited supply, we have unlimited munitions, we have unlimited oil. When we were just following the data. We weren't trying to be partisan, we weren't trying to be Trump haters. We were looking, what do we have in the oil reserves right now? Holy shit. The data says that we have, the amount of oil we have right now is actually less than the amount of oil we had in our reserves in 1983. That seems like a pretty big problem to have. And then you have all the Trump people gaslighting you and say, oh, that's fake news. We have unlimited oil. We're energy. No algae.
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Brett (Co-host)
There's no algae.
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Jordy (Co-host)
And that's. Ben, that's exactly where I was going with this to bring it full circle to where we started this segment is that these are the same people who, when they look at the green pool that exists right now, the Ninja Turtle green pool, they go, that picture's not from today. That picture is from Obama. That pictures from the last minute. That's before we fixed it. And at a certain point, there's no getting through to people like that. Right. If you're an honest broker, if you're somebody who, and I know a lot of people may even get mad at me for saying this, but if you're someone who voted for Trump and now regrets it, and you're, you're open minded and you're listening to what we're saying and you're kind of having a realization like, oh, these, they've been following the facts that I may have disagree with them, but you know that that's one thing. But if you're somebody who looks at a green body of water and tries to tell me that it's not green, I don't know. We need to do some psychological tests to see what the hell is going on there. I even saw, you know, I got thrown on some TikTok algorithm the other day where somebody was just filming the algae pool. There were the reflecting pool, and it was bright green. And somehow that must have hit a MAGA algorithm because all the comments were from MAGA people saying, fake video AI this is from before the renovations. And to me, I just, there's nothing you could do with those people. Right. And it's, it's, it's goes back to kind of the, the thing that we would say on this show about kind of fact versus fiction and not both sidesing the issues like so many in corporate media do. But when we would say, if I look outside and the sky is blue and you're telling me the sky is green, I'm going to say, no, the sky is blue. It's not somewhere in between blue and green.
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Jordi (Co-host)
But this is the real life culmination of that.
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Jordy (Co-host)
Yes, yes, Jordi, this is the real life version of that. Except I'm looking at a pool that is green and you're telling me that it's actually blue. Blue. Okay. And so I, I, sorry, that's not what we do here. And that's what Trump is trying to do with everything. He's trying to act like this is a great mou and, and the war went great and we're lethal war fighters and we're the best and the, and I, I, I'm amazing at everything. And all of it is bs. It's all a lie. When it comes down to it, all of that is the reflecting pool filled with algae. And over time, the algae will always be there. It will. You can't hide it. You can't BS your way out of it the same way Trump could only BS his way out of COVID for so long until people started dying. It came here and the cases went up and up and up and up and up. He tried to call it a hoax. He tried. He just tried. This is the same strategy he does with everything. He's a liar, he's a gaslighter. Everybody around him are liars as well, and we need to continue to stand up to that.
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Jordi (Co-host)
So funny how our brains work, because I was going to give the same exact sky analogy. And this is the real life culmination, like I literally was typing that up as you were speaking. I don't know if it's because we're brothers or because we spent so much time together or maybe, maybe both. But cherry on top of the segment, the only thing that I would further add to the reflecting pool turning Ninja Turtle green and you know, maybe J.D. vance seeming like he finally agrees with some of our stances here when he's at least speaking public facing now is this is the same thing that we did and that we take the approach of with everything here at the network, which is following the facts.
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Ron Filipowski (Podcast Contributor)
Right?
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Jordi (Co-host)
We're not just like shooting from the hip and like guessing right. When we say in May, mid May, when Ben does the video talking about how and what Trump is doing to the reflecting pool is going to have disastrous consequences. And then you fast forward to June and you see those disastrous consequences. I grew up with Ben. He was not a reflecting pool expert back then, I could promise you. But we speak with people who are and are very knowledgeable about the space, who had told us that, hey, what Trump is doing right now, this is really going to actually like blow back in his face because what he's doing by painting it this blue is there's going to be this buildup of algae, there's going to be this blah, blah, blah. And I don't have to go further and further. But the main point I'm trying to get at here is we just follow the facts of the network. We do, we take that approach. We're very fact based with everything we do. Yes, we'll give you our opinions, but the reports are deeply rooted in research and consultation with true experts of these fields. And so I know our audience knows that. But again, for any, for any former MAGA who have now found the way to the light that are just so offended that Donald Trump and his regime are trying to tell you that that's crystal clear of letting Ninja Turtle green crystal clear blue and have now seen the light. That's just the approach we take here at the Midas Touch Network. So if you like that, make sure you subscribe for more of that.
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Jordy (Co-host)
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Jordi (Co-host)
shout out to our sponsors y' all links in the description of both the YouTube and the audio. Use the links, use the codes. If there's an exit survey let them know we sent you. Benji where to next?
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Ben (Host)
It's interesting you know when you're starting to look at states that have been viewed as more red states or purple turning red states like a Georgia or an Ohio which I think we all view as a red state. Now you're seeing Democrats pull ahead there. You take a look at Texas, you know as well you know and these aren't just kind of pipe dreams at this point. It just seems that people are sick and tired of this Trump regime. Their constant barrage of lies, their focus on manipulating the market and arches and reflecting pools and ballrooms while the American people are suffering every single day.
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Brett (Co-host)
And I think people also just think
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Ben (Host)
this is a bad look for the country. Just bad look. Like when you see Donald Trump out there in the G7, and you see him falling asleep and unable to really function, unable to make coherent sentences, and then when he does speak, he says things that are so internally inconsistent and contradictory, and it was just. It was a really sad sight to see. World leaders, you know, treat Donald Trump
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Brett (Co-host)
like, you know, someone in your family
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Ben (Host)
who may be in hospice care, and you're seeing someone who you knew, you know, just really struggle. And you would have, you know, prime ministers and amirs and presidents and leaders,
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Brett (Co-host)
you know, kind of speaking to Donald
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Ben (Host)
Trump with a recognition that they were speaking to someone who was really not there, their physical presence. But did you notice Macron?
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Jordy (Co-host)
I felt like Macron almost looked like a caretaker for Trump. Like, he was kind of always by his side, like, kind of directing him around. Like, you know, Donald, you're supposed to be walking in this direction. Not that direct. Like, it was. It was actually an interesting thing to see.
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Ben (Host)
It was. It was. It was interesting to see Prime Minister Carney talking to Donald Trump. You know, like, I thought you would like this. Donald, Donald, Donald.
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Brett (Co-host)
We're doing caps. Caps on Chinese EVs.
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Ben (Host)
Do you like that? I like it, I like it, I like it.
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Interviewer or Additional Guest
Just.
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Brett (Co-host)
Just even stuff like that. I mean, you know, seeing that. I mean.
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Ben (Host)
I mean, Donald Trump arrived late to the G7 meetings. Everybody's sitting there. Trump shows up.
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Brett (Co-host)
Do we have this clip, Brett? I don't know if we have it with the South Korean kind of delegation, not the leadership, just like their kind of delegation. Trump shows up late to the G7, and then he doesn't know where he is. And then he goes, the boss is here. The boss is here. And then immediately Trump's propaganda arm and social media take it, and they clip the part where Trump goes, the boss is here. And then they try to, like, contrast that to, like, Biden, because everything has to be a way to attack a former president. And in fact, Donald Trump was lost. He showed up late. You had French President Emmanuel Macron, like, all right, let's get started. And just this awkward laughter filled the room. I know it's a moment that probably hasn't gotten enough attention, but if we've got that moment, Brett, could we play that?
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Jordy (Co-host)
So he walks in with the Korean delegation and then follows them and follows their instructions until a woman points him to the direction of where the United States is supposed to sit. And then he covers for it with that I'm the boss statement.
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Brett (Co-host)
Hello, boss, I'm the boss.
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Jordy (Co-host)
Which I feel like is something, I don't know, like, like an embarrassed toddler, you know, would say in a situation
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Jordi (Co-host)
like that, the entire clip he looks like a toddler. Like, he act genuinely, like he's confused where he's going. I mean, like, makes the unfunny joke. It's concerning. Like, it. And Ben, for me too, it just comes down to that. Like, I don't like the way this just makes us look. Like, forget all of the other stuff. But to just have someone so holy. One, first off, incompetent up there, there. But two, so clearly like progressively getting worse in his own, you know, mental capacity. It's. It's deeply embarrassing and, and concerning for me as someone who loves this country that I look at that guy, I'm like, that's our leader. Like, that's the leader of the President. Absolutely pathetic.
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Ben (Host)
Yeah. Brett did a whole video that I thought was great where he out. I don't, I don't want to play the whole thing because I played it on other episodes. And you can go and watch some of the. The videos on our Instagram or on our YouTube. We have. Brett did the short where he showed Trump really struggling to walk and talk throughout the G7. And he had to like, hold Prime Minister Modi's hand to get up on the step. And he would wander and French President Emmanuel Macron would say, come here. He would go in for, like, multiple kisses with Bridget Macron's wife, and she would be very kind of uncomfortable about it. Again, he had these swollen ankles, swollen legs, cuts all over his hands, the makeup on his hands. I mean, he looks like he's gained another 40 pounds or 30 pounds over the past, you know, few weeks even. You know, he's. He's not. He doesn't seem to know where he is. When he does talk, though. I mean, I'll show you this. You know, there is this disinhibition where he keeps on talking about how attracted he is to the men around him,
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Brett (Co-host)
and he keeps saying that they're good
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Ben (Host)
looking and how handsome they are is very bizarre.
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Brett (Co-host)
We have.
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Ben (Host)
I'll just show you this short clip that Brett put together of just some of the stuff he was saying, but I could. This goes on and on and on. And he's been doing this a lot lately. Lots of the. Anytime he sees a man next to
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Brett (Co-host)
him, he's like, attracted to the man.
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Ben (Host)
Oh, you're so handsome.
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Jordy (Co-host)
You're so good. So strong.
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Ben (Host)
You're so tough. I want to be next to you.
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Brett (Co-host)
Can I touch your muscles?
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Ben (Host)
Can I touch it?
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Jordy (Co-host)
It's very strange here. Just like he was in a hotel
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Interviewer or Additional Guest
and I met him and we fell in love, deeply in love. So we had a good relationship right from the. But no, we met. We didn't know each other before that. We had great chemistry and we. I stayed twice as long as I was supposed to. So you look at this man, I'll give you a lesson. He's the most beautiful looking man. He looks so nice. He's like an angel. The press conference seems to have done well. You shot your load pretty much, Steve, right? Pretty much.
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Ben (Host)
First he was talking to President El Sisi of Egypt, then he was talking to Prime Minister Modi, you know, and there's a lot more clips like that. I'm just showing you for the sake of brevity, that right there, he was talking to the reporter about how handsome while he was with the president of the uae, he was the Emir of Abu Dhabi. Kept on, you know, say, oh, you got good looking guys here. Is that, Is he one of yours? Is he one of yours? You know, and in between that, he's talking about how, you know, enriched uranium
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Brett (Co-host)
is never something that's even that valuable. We don't care about enriched uranium. It's like, okay, but that's literally the thing you've been saying so much so
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Ben (Host)
that you wanted to get rid of all of the dust.
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Brett (Co-host)
Not only did you care about the enriched uranium, you wanted to get rid of the nuclear dust.
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Ben (Host)
We were going to bring in people to get rid of them. And now that's not even like an issue to you.
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Brett (Co-host)
That's not valuable. The whole thing that you and Hegseth were saying when people were like, yeah, but the nuclear capabilities aren't imminent.
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Ben (Host)
So what they say, well, Iran has a conventional ballistic missile shield.
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Brett (Co-host)
That's what they would say. That protects against the nuclear capabilities.
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Ben (Host)
And now Trump is saying, we don't care about their ballistic missiles. If Saudi Arabia has ballistic missiles, why doesn't Iran get ballistic missiles?
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Brett (Co-host)
Which, by the way, is not an invalid point.
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Ben (Host)
And you can say, well, Ben, the United States is allied with Saudi Arabia.
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Brett (Co-host)
But then I could also go back
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Ben (Host)
and say, well, they killed, you know, reporters and they had a lot of people involved.
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Jordy (Co-host)
I Don't think there's a single country in the world that is not allowed to make ballistic missiles. I mean, these are sovereign countries. Like, they're like, we don't like them, but it's a sovereign country. But the fact is that they made this their entire premise for the war and for extending the war. And so now to go back and say, oh, actually, ballistic missile. We didn't actually. Who cares? I mean, whatever. Nuclear material. Nuclear. It's really not a big. It's honestly, it's not even, you know, it's not even that big of a deal.
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Ron Filipowski (Podcast Contributor)
Real.
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Jordy (Co-host)
It's not. It's actually not even that dangerous. So, like, maybe we'll, like, check it out in a few months or something. But it's. It's really not even like the fact that you could even say that with a straight face, if that is truly your view, that you're. The only thing that you care about, as they're trying to make it seem now, is that we want Iran to promise that they will not make a nuclear weapon in the future. If that's legitimately the only thing that you care. You never would have ripped up the JCPOA in the first place, because it did that. And it did that with proper monitoring and. And requirements. And it was actually quite strong, I think, for, quite frankly, any of these Republicans who criticized Obama's JCPOA and are now praising this deal should be utterly ashamed. And I think it speaks to, honestly how good of a negotiator Barack Obama was and how good of a job that he did that he was able to secure those things from Iran and make a deal for the region that is so much better than the one that we have right now. And once again, what we have right now is not even a deal. It's a memorable memorandum of understanding to do a future deal. But Obama's deal was a real deal with teeth that was far stronger by far, by, by far than anything we have now. And he did it without disrupting the entire world economy, and he did it without going to war, without killing innocent people. I think that actually speaks a lot to how good of a leader Obama is. And frankly, Trump should be apologizing to Barack Obama for what he did and apologizing to all the United States rather than being, like, Obama's fault for the algae in the pool.
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Jordi (Co-host)
It's your.
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Jordy (Co-host)
It's Obama's algae. Shut up.
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Jordi (Co-host)
Everyone remembers. Everyone remembers Obama's 2012 algae. Who could forget the infamous 2012 algae?
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Jordy (Co-host)
Yeah, I remember Obama was like, Affordable Care Act. We don't need it. I want to talk algae. We're going to talk algae. Not bad. You know, there's this guy.
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Jordi (Co-host)
The Trump regime lies. The Trump regime lies with such impunity that you just know. You just know. When the straight is fully open and accessible and running at full capacity, they're gonna spike the football straights open. Like, I already see the X post, the Twitter post all about that. Like, oh, it's open. We did it, dude. It was open before you got us in this in the first place. Like that. That's what we're going to be celebrating. I just know that's the path we're sort of leading towards because there is no win here for the US like, the way we've utterly surrendered right now is absolutely. It's pathetic.
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Jordy (Co-host)
I was going to kill Osama bin Laden, but I decided needed to kill some algae instead.
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Ben (Host)
You know, but here's the thing.
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Brett (Co-host)
The way these out moving on, the way.
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Ben (Host)
But the way these outcomes occur, it is what you might expect in an episode of some weird reality show like the Apprentice, right? Was Vanilla Ice going to win?
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Brett (Co-host)
Oh, it's Penn and Teller, you know, from the. And it's like, like, okay, that's a weird show, you know, like, I don't know, like.
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Kiana (Shopify Advertiser)
Like.
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Brett (Co-host)
Like a TV show we grew up with, right? Like, you think one thing's gonna happen, then all of a sudden, you know, it was this outcome, I think, like an episode of Saved by the Bell or whatever we grew up with, or, you know, like the movie Rambo. He's about to get caught, and then this happens. And there's an expression, I think it's called deess deus ex machina.
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Jordy (Co-host)
Where, like.
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Brett (Co-host)
Like at the end of the.
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Jordy (Co-host)
Sex machina.
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Ben (Host)
Yeah, Right.
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Jordi (Co-host)
What'd you say?
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Jordy (Co-host)
Do sex machina.
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Ben (Host)
Yeah. We're at the end of it. The, like, the act of God kind of comes in and, you know, and then like, like, all of a sudden,
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Jordy (Co-host)
like, there's a major change.
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Brett (Co-host)
Now we're pro Iran. You know, you're like, like, we were working with this side, and now we're this side overnight.
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Jordy (Co-host)
And we're like. We're like a step away from a Trumpian, like. And death to America.
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Brett (Co-host)
What a good phrase. Let me be clear. One of the things that. One of the things that J.D. vance said was Donald Trump could get elected as the Ayatollah himself and the
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Ben (Host)
Democrats would be mad.
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Brett (Co-host)
That's an exact quote.
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Kiana (Shopify Advertiser)
Yeah.
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Brett (Co-host)
I don't think I want the President of the United States to be the Ayatollah to be the Supreme Leader of Iran. I think that, you know, it's been, you know, it's, it's a complete, you know, it's a complete 180. But when you hear. But by the way, J.D. vance's entire whole life is a 180, I mean, you know, all these people, the RFK's and this whole regime of
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Jordy (Co-host)
people, it's the one connective tissue between all of them. I think we warned about all of you also throughout the campaigns. Right. For those who are watching us, throughout the actual presidential campaigns, Trump could say one thing to one crowd and then go to another crowd and say the opposite thing.
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Interviewer or Additional Guest
Thing.
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Jordy (Co-host)
And then you'd have his followers just pick and choose what they want to believe that he was saying when it's pretty clear, like what Trump's belief is by his actions. But he would go to Dearborn, Michigan, and he would say things that would make them think that he'd be this protector of Gaza. Right. And then he would go to a community that was very pro Israel and he would tell them that he would make sure that Gaza would, you know, be in the hands of Israel and he would do everything to protect it. And he would hold those two diametrically opposed positions at the same time. And so. And even the media would fall for this often, too. Right? They would fall for it. On the abortion issue. Right. Donald Trump could say that women should not be allowed to get abortions, that there should be some punishment for the women. There was that. There was that famous comment from Trump during his first, the first campaign. And then he could say the opposite. He could say something else. And then you as a, as an independent reporter could say, well, we've heard what Donald Trump's opinion is on this. Right?
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Kiana (Shopify Advertiser)
Right.
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Jordy (Co-host)
And then the reporters will be like, oh, but he said this. I'm like, yeah, he said that because he saw that there was bad press because he said the other thing. But then guess what he did. He put in the Supreme Court justices that overturned Roe v. Wade. So don't give me a fact check, because Donald Trump said two different things.
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Jordi (Co-host)
Yeah.
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Ben (Host)
Or remember what he said about Project 2025. I don't know what it is. I don't support it.
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Brett (Co-host)
And then we at the Midas Touch
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Ben (Host)
Network would report, no, they're going to implement Project 2025.
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Brett (Co-host)
And we would get hit with like
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Ben (Host)
those Daniel Dale style things, fact checks, and the, this fact check organization and Snoopies or Snopes. And they would all be like, Donald
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Brett (Co-host)
Trump Said no fact check on my, I go, I know he's saying the words no, but he's a liar. The guy lies about everything. There is no thread of a value and a principle and the, and, and you can't believe it. So you have to assess what he's actually doing. And the thing is, when you try to assess what he's doing, he's fine with quite literally doing the exact opposite the other day than he did the day before. And then when he has you so deep down into the cult, you're already right there. So to the extent you go against the cult, he sics the cult on you and then you feel like, you know, you're under attack or you're going to lose a job or whatever, whatever the, you know, or you're just so far down the rabbit hole that you might as well keep going down because it's so embarrassing, pressing to admit that you're not. Or you see what happens when people like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massie and others start saying it. But the reality is, is that even right now, the complex part about me covering, and I'll show you this a little bit when we come back from the break, like Trump will say something now as it relates to the Middle east, that America shouldn't be involved. And why would we, why would we continue to go to war if that causes a depression and all these tough guys out there want us to be involved in a never ending war. Or really you want to be the person to take responsibility for a depression. You want to be the person to be there when we have oil lines or no oil. We can't let that happen. I listen to that personally and I'm opening up to the audience, I'm being vulnerable. I go, whoa, what he said there at that moment, how do I feel? Because I actually, whatever that segment was, I'm in agreement with that. But he's a fraud. And he's just saying that because he's desperate. And when he's a cornered rat, he'll say anything to dig out of it, including, I think the Iranians are great people. You know, he changes the whole thing. From these are radical extremists who all need to die to, I think they're strong and powerful people. He doesn't. It's pure survival. When I hear J.D. vance speak up and seem like he's standing up against, against Netanyahu and Netanyahu blowing up buildings in Lebanon and he said, and J.D. vance will say something like, well, what, what's your game plan? You're just going to try to kill everybody. You think that's going to be effective? And why would you attack us? We're the only country that still supports you. You know, he goes where the he goes. You're lucky that Donald Trump's the only person who still supports you right now. So let us get this deal done. What. What the heck are you even trying to do? And he says something like that. And I'm like, yeah, but he's a liar about everything. JD who knows who any of these people are? And when you're dealing with any aspect of life, whether it's international affairs, domestic affairs, your personal relations with other people, how you carry yourself, it is important to have some reliability and consistency and for your words to matter, right? That's what I was always raised and told. You know, my dad would say, ben, you got to be a man of your word, right? That's what my parents. Be a man of your word. They would say to me, you know, look, you've gotta, you know, you, you, if, if you say you're gonna do something, you got to deliver, you know, you, if you're gonna show, if you say you're gonna show up, you gotta show up, up. You know, you know, just basic stuff that this regime doesn't have. And so that's why when J.D. vance will say something, I'll go, huh? I go, yeah, but his name's not even J.D. vance. Like, the guys had two other identities before this, right?
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Poll Analyst or Political Commentator
It's.
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Jordy (Co-host)
Why then you always have to know, and we've said this honestly for what, six years at this point, since the beginning of Midas, Trump will always screw you. Trump will always screw you. If you try to chain yourself to Trump and think that he is going to be your savior, everything Trump touches dies. It's gonna, it's gonna end badly for you. So even if you're Israel and you think now's the time, we're gonna burn all of our bridges, I'll say it metaphorically, because they do a lot of stuff like that. We're gonna burn all of our bridges and we are going to go all in on Donald Trump. Donald Trump is our savior. He could do no wrong. Let's go all in on BB and Trump, and BB is going to go all in with Trump and it's going to be this whole, whole alliance, and it's going to work out great for everybody. Now, like, a lot of these rally people are pissed. They're. They're actually, they're pissed at Trump. They view it that they View it as he sold out. And Trump's net approval rating in Israel right now, it swung, like, 46 points in, like, weeks. And to me, it's like, what do you think was going to happen? It's kind of the same story about, you know, the Islamic population in Dearborn, Michigan. You know, they put a lot of trust in Trump. A lot of them did not vote for Kamala Harris because Trump made promises to them. All of a sudden they're like, what the hell? This isn't what we voted for. For. I wish it weren't, but this is a guy who will screw you over no matter what. If you're that union worker, right? And Donald, you see Donald Trump is doing fake union events, and then you vote for the guy, and then he starts screwing you and your union, then what the hell did he think was going to happen? I could go down the list of basically every group of people. Every. The farmers. I mean, I could go through every, like, every group of people. Do not put your trust in this man because he believes in nothing except his own survival. And the only reason he even ran for president in the first place was because he was terrified of going to prison. And this was a way out. So he used his cult and he used all of you, and he divided and he conquered, and he went group to group to group and told them all what they wanted to hear, all so that he could avoid being in prison for the rest of his life. And I will say that worked out for him, but it's not looking so good for him right now, and he is not looking good right now.
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Ben (Host)
It's why you got to ground things in values and principles and try to set aside tribal politics and just call out, is this right or is this wrong? Is there a genocide in Gaza? Yes. Are they bombing Lebanon and slaughtering people and want to do more atrocity? Yes.
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Brett (Co-host)
Is that bad?
- [57:54]
Ben (Host)
Yes. Do you call it out? Absolutely. Do you call it out? If Hezbollah is attacking in Israel and you say, is that wrong?
- [58:02]
Brett (Co-host)
You say, yes. You call out what's wrong. You have to have, again, a foundation
- [58:08]
Ben (Host)
of values and principles.
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Brett (Co-host)
When they're out there attacking unions, are you okay with that? No, you can't be okay with that. When they're attacking marginalized communities and transgender
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Ben (Host)
people and bullying people, are you going
- [58:19]
Brett (Co-host)
to go, well, I think voters like that in 2024, Donald Trump put out an ad that said, you know, she's with they them and not with us.
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Shopify Business Owner
Ha ha.
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Brett (Co-host)
No, you don't fall into that trap. You go, you know what? We do. We stand up for people. We stand up for marginalized, we fight for people. You stand for something, something or you fall for everything. That's what life has to be about. What's the point of living in this life if you truly stand for nothing and you're just basically being, you know, led into the abyss by a psychopath like Donald Trump? And it's what I always say, Brett, to your point too, with these like right wing billionaire oligarchs, really, you don't have enough money that you are going to just allow yourself to be pulled into this direction and to cataclysmic consequences because the moment he lifts you up and puts you in the White House, he can as equally crush you and it goes in the opposite direction. And you're setting a whole framework for that to occur and the destruction ultimately that you've ushered in of any type of predictability or accountability, you know, in the underlying system.
- [59:22]
Jordy (Co-host)
Anyway, we have a lot more to discuss.
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Brett (Co-host)
Well, we'll take our last quick break of the show and we come back.
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Ben (Host)
I want to chat about what some
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Brett (Co-host)
of these voters are out there feeling like. We got to show some of the Obama clips.
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Ben (Host)
I got to show you a clip
- [59:34]
Brett (Co-host)
that we have of Senator Ossoff, what's going on there.
- [59:37]
Ben (Host)
Let's take our last quick break of the the show.
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Brett (Co-host)
We'll be right back.
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Jordy (Co-host)
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Jordi (Co-host)
Shout out to our sponsors links in description of both the YouTube and the audio. Use the links, use the codes. If there's an exit server, let them know we sent you really quick. Daniel Dale took a stray in that sense segment.
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Ron Filipowski (Podcast Contributor)
Daniel.
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Jordi (Co-host)
I hope he's doing well. I, I saw something the other day that like, he hasn't like reported in like 100.
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Jordy (Co-host)
Like, doesn't put him on the air anymore.
- [64:10]
Jordi (Co-host)
Yeah, they just don't put him on anymore.
- [64:12]
Jordy (Co-host)
So it's, it's wild. Yeah, I mean, you know, because they're
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Ron Filipowski (Podcast Contributor)
like
- [64:16]
Jordy (Co-host)
Trump lies a lot. No need to fact check him anymore.
- [64:19]
Brett (Co-host)
I remember back in the day.
- [64:21]
Jordi (Co-host)
No, we don't have to do the whole thing. We don't have to do the whole thing. We don't, don't.
- [64:25]
Ben (Host)
I won't go down the road.
- [64:26]
Brett (Co-host)
My only point was that we were proven to be correct. That's my point.
- [64:30]
Jordi (Co-host)
Exactly. Exactly. That's just, that's the larger point.
- [64:33]
Brett (Co-host)
That's the.
- [64:34]
Jordy (Co-host)
During Trump won, like he would. They put him on all the time.
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Jordi (Co-host)
The only thing, I mean we're still on the air is, is
- [64:44]
Interviewer or Additional Guest
I don't
- [64:44]
Jordi (Co-host)
want to do it.
- [64:44]
Brett (Co-host)
I don't want to do it.
- [64:45]
Jordi (Co-host)
Don't make me do it. Ben, where are we going next? Yeah, it could be upset when we do it.
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Ben (Host)
Okay, I'll just show you Ohio Trump voter saying F you to Donald Trump. Let's show this video of the Ohio Trump voter.
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Jordi (Co-host)
We got it.
- [64:55]
Brett (Co-host)
If you could talk to President Trump
- [64:56]
Jordy (Co-host)
directly right now, what would you tell him?
- [64:59]
Brett (Co-host)
Should you want me to really Say it on, on air.
- [65:02]
Jordy (Co-host)
I said you. I don't mean to be disrespectful to
- [65:05]
Brett (Co-host)
any, any leader but he's disrespectful to
- [65:08]
Jordy (Co-host)
us and he doesn't care. So. Or Harry Enton, his name was Rob Couch.
- [65:14]
Interviewer or Additional Guest
J.D.
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Jordy (Co-host)
hope you didn't. Harry.
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Ben (Host)
Harry Enton was looking at some of these state regime media Fox polls and here's what Harry Enton had to say earlier today about Trump's approval.
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JD Vance (Guest or Referenced Politician)
Let's play the American people are to
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Poll Analyst or Political Commentator
going what was the point of all of that? What was the point of all that? Because the American people hated it. And the way you can know that they had it. Just take a look. Trump's net approval ratings hits lows for Fox poll and this is Fox Polls in May he had his lowest ever rating at minus 22 points. You come into the poll that was released last night, the second lowest ever. One point better at minus 21 points. Way underwater and with independence. I know you love when I point out the independence. Johnny B. 55 points underwater. I mean my goodness gracious. This was a political disaster. No wonder the President wants to move on from it.
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Brett (Co-host)
He said he didn't want to be Herbert Hoover.
- [66:05]
Poll Analyst or Political Commentator
Yeah.
- [66:05]
Brett (Co-host)
It may be that voters were already looking at him like that in a manner of speaking. What about on inflation which may be driving some of these numbers and directly
- [66:13]
Jordy (Co-host)
related to the war with Iran.
- [66:14]
Poll Analyst or Political Commentator
Yeah. You know you mentioned Herbert Hoover, the economy. Right. That sunk his presidency. Inflation is what is sinking Donald Trump's presidency to all time lows, at least according to Fox. Because just take a look here. Look at Ipsos polling, Trump's net approval rating on inflation pre Iran war. It was bad, right? It was 33 points underwater. But then look in the past month the average according to the Ipsos polling, Look at that, 51 points underwater. There was no president ever before that had any poll in which he was 50 points underwater on inflation or worse. And the average of the Ipsos polling over the last month was 51 points underwater on inflation. The Iran war absolutely drove Trump to new lows on the issue that got him reelected in the first place, inflation.
- [67:01]
Ben (Host)
Then you have JD Vance talking about Israel and Israel's cabinet speaking out against this mou. Here's what JD Vance had to say. It's what I was referencing before.
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JD Vance (Guest or Referenced Politician)
Let's put what I will say, and this does bother me, is that you have seen people within Bibi's cabinet who have come out and attacked the deal and in some ways very personally attacked the President of the United States. And I guess my message to them would be twofold. Number one, Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time.
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Jordy (Co-host)
Time.
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JD Vance (Guest or Referenced Politician)
And he happens to be the head of state of the world superpower. If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world. And the second message I would give to some of those cabinet members, Bibi, to his credit, has not gone down this path, but to some of these cabinet members in Israel who are attacking the president United States. The other thing that I would say is that over the last three months, months, two thirds of the defensive weapons that have protected your homeland have been built by American hands and paid for by American tax dollars. The problem for Israel is not Donald J. Trump. And anybody in Israel who thinks their biggest problem is the President of the United States needs to wake up and smell the reality of the situation that country is in. Thank you all.
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Ben (Host)
Then he did a podcast on the New York Times, and here he is. I mean, yes. Trita Parsley says, holy smokes. JD Vance to Israel opposing the mou. Let's play this clip.
- [68:39]
JD Vance (Guest or Referenced Politician)
Yeah. You've seen people in their system, Ben GVIR and Smotrich, who've attacked the deal. And I guess my response to them would be, what is your exact proposal? And you're a country of 9 million people. You can't just kill your way out of solving every single national security problem that you have.
- [68:58]
Ben (Host)
And what makes J.D. vance, though, so dangerous is that he had basically a diametrically different position 5 days ago or 7 days ago or 10 days ago than what you just saw there. And he delivered that message. I mean, we all know he's a fraud, but to a lot of people, you would view that as he's delivering that message convincingly. And what he said there is what's on a lot of people's mind right now. I mean, as you have Israel saying, we have our security zone inside Lebanon and we're going to keep on blowing up Lebanon buildings and we're going to go take, you know, DIA and Tyre and then Gaza is ours. You know, when you hear Smutrich and GVIR and Bibi and all these people say these horrible things, a lot of the criticisms that we've had, and I think rightfully so, against this Netanyahu regime,
- [69:53]
Brett (Co-host)
frankly, sound a lot like what, you
- [69:56]
Ben (Host)
know, not the part where, you know, Donald Trump's your only, you know, you know, ally in the world. But we've been talking about, you know,
- [70:02]
Brett (Co-host)
how you've, I, you know, how you've
- [70:05]
Ben (Host)
not just destroyed the region, you know, you've irreparably harmed whatever you think you're building for Israel. You've destroyed that too. You're, you're, you're all, you've created a situation where you're all alone.
- [70:14]
Jordy (Co-host)
J.D.
- [70:14]
Brett (Co-host)
vance delivers that, that as though he was on this side the whole time. And you know, he's the same guy who rose to power saying that Donald Trump is America's Hitler and that he was, he was the guy who said that. And so he got a lot of support being I'm the guy from Appalachia who calls out Donald Trump and Trump's going to kill everybody in Appalachia. And then he goes, I'm actually a big Trumper.
- [70:43]
Ben (Host)
I'm never the never Trump guy.
- [70:46]
Brett (Co-host)
These people, you go through Treasury Secretary Besant, look at all that. Lutnick, all these people's their common thread, you know, Tulsi Gabbard, rfk. The only commonality, the only consistency is their inconsistency and fraud. RFK Jr could be the guy who leads the movement against glyphosate. That was his thing, going against the glyphosate pesticide. That was one of his big come ups with Maha. Then he's literally the guy who's pro glyphosate, who wants to make it the preferred pesticide and herbicide of the United States government and says, no, that's what we really wanted the whole time.
- [71:31]
Jordy (Co-host)
By the way, did he see about glyphosate today? They said that they're going to spray it across the 850,000 acre Lake Tahoe National Forest. I mean, this was like their whole big thing, the reason why. And this goes back to what I was saying before about the union workers and the Muslims for Trump and the pro Israel for Trump and the auto workers for Trump and that whole list, it's that like, like the Maha moms, the Make America Healthy Again mom, the people who were like, oh, well, he's going to get RFK in there and they're going to be great on health and wellness and da, da, da, da, da. Well, now he's like spraying all of our crops and all of our forests, our national forests with glyphosate, which was like your main cause they celebrate. So like, I, I don't even like, like, like at some point you just have to realize, and it's okay, you know, it's it's truly, it's okay if you got tricked. I've been said some of these people could be very convincing and, and you could have been, you know, down the rabbit hole, you know, quite a bit. But, you know, at a certain point, I think when the evidence piles up, you got to acknowledge that the pool is green, okay? Like, you, you have to acknowledge knowledge. The pool is green. I have to admit it and I have to just come to terms with it. And in the Middle east right now, I think also, you know, you obviously have a lot of people, and I'm not going to say really, any of these folks in the, in the region are, are necessarily good actors. You know, there are a lot of bad actors going on, but it's going to take people to step up. It's going to take people to step up and say, you know, I am not going to continue hostilities, I'm not going to continue attacking and, you know, try, let, let other people be the bad guy, right? If you're, if you're Israel, Israel, stop bombing Lebanon. If Hezbollah bombs you, that's another thing. But if you keep doing this back and forth, tit for tat, tit for tat, it's going to go on forever. It's going to go on for another thousand years because they're going to say, well, they attacked you because you attacked them and you attacked them because they attacked you. You know, if you're Iran, don't attack anyone else in the region. If you're Lebanon, don't attack anyone. Just like, just stop it. Like, just, just quit it. And, you know, if my only hope possibly, you know, if, if anything could possibly. And like I said, hope is not a strategy. But my, my one hope is that, that, you know, people could just chill for a second over there and understand, like, like take this opportunity, take this rare opportunity, take this mess, this chaos, this destruction, this horrific situation and try to turn something good out of it. Like, if, if, if you can, for the benefit of your own countries, for the benefit of the world. Like, the people are, are sick of this crap. They truly are sick of this crap and they're sick of these duplicitous leaders constantly lying us into these conflicts.
- [73:59]
Ben (Host)
I'll toss it over to Jordi. But look, since the purported Gaza ceasefire from, what was it, last October, over a thousand people have died. And most of those thousand people are innocent people, mothers and children and other people. Like, that is, to say, unacceptable does not. There's no words to describe just how horrific that is.
- [74:22]
Brett (Co-host)
That's not something that can be done.
- [74:24]
Ben (Host)
There needs to be a two state solution. That's what everybody should be working to every single day and recognizing Palestine.
- [74:31]
Brett (Co-host)
And that needs to happen, Happen. You know, there's been what, 3,000, 4,000
- [74:35]
Ben (Host)
plus deaths in Lebanon again, medics, hospitals, mothers, kids.
- [74:43]
Brett (Co-host)
And then I don't want to be gaslit. Oh, that didn't happen.
- [74:45]
Ben (Host)
That's not real.
- [74:46]
Brett (Co-host)
Those are. No, that's real.
- [74:47]
Ben (Host)
Those are real.
- [74:48]
Brett (Co-host)
Those are real videos. Those are real people.
- [74:50]
Jordy (Co-host)
Or, oh, you know, we killed those little girls. But they guess what? They were, they were near a military base. So it's their fault. Guess what? We have schools on military bases, hundreds of them, three throughout the United States of America. I think you'd be pretty pissed off if a foreign country came in here and bombed a school because it was adjacent to or on a military base. It's unacceptable. You can't bomb, as frankly, as Trump said in the past week, you can't bomb a whole apartment building because you're trying to get one guy who you think is part of Hezbollah. That's. You can't do that. You're killing a lot of innocent people. This is not how the world is supposed to work. These are war crimes. These are genocidal actions. It's not okay. It's not okay. And you should be able to say that, that, you know, whether you hate Trump, whether you're for Trump, whatever, and you're, you're, you're. I. The way you perceive the world should not be built around what some random other person believes. If Trump says one thing one day to these Trump supporters and they say, and then all of his supporters just parrot what he says, and then he says the opposite thing and they parrot what he says again. You've, you've given up your agency, you've given up your entire ability, your entire worldview, your entire ability to think for yourself, Yourself. And you have to think for yourself. You have to have a core of values and principles and let that be your guide every day. That has to be your guide. Not individuals who lie to you and change their mind and change what they say. Enough of that. And that goes for all sides of the aisle. Don't put your faith in politicians. Put your faith in ideas. Have strong principles, have strong values and follow them.
- [76:18]
Jordi (Co-host)
Notice how when JD Was being critical of Israel too, he didn't go all in. Right? He did what so many right wing influencers here in the States do when they want to try and criticize Donald Trump. What do they do? It's never Trump's fault. It's. It's Trump's cabinets or it's.
- [76:32]
Jordy (Co-host)
It's the people around Trump.
- [76:34]
Jordi (Co-host)
The people around Trump are really messing up. That's what JD Said. He said, no, not. Not Bibi. It's Bibi's cabinet. Bibi's cabinet has to learn. Bibi's cabinet needs to figure this out. It's a very interesting thing when you see.
- [76:45]
Jordy (Co-host)
It's funny, Jordy, because that reminds me, I saw a quote from. I think it was like, an unnamed Republican. So, so brave, so brave, so brave. There was a congressional reporter, and I'm unfortunately forgetting who it was, but they interviewed an anonymous Republican about the MOU who was like, this is a disaster. I can't believe J.D. vance did this. You know, the president isn't getting good advice from his vice president. You know, they did that whole shtick that you're talking about, but the White House was actually pissed off by it. And so here they probably thought this was their way of circumventing, getting Trump annoyed. But then the rapid response of the White House account, or they responded to the report and they were like, how dare you say that? You know, the president was not behind this historic. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da. And so, like, it's funny watching them even, you know, try that, and then it backfiring. But, you know, that's the situation of. Of that party right now. It really is a party in chaos and a party in crisis. And. And they don't quite know who they
- [77:42]
Ben (Host)
are at this point, you know, which leaves me with, I think, a great way to sum up this episode and what we've been talking about. And it's frankly how the Midas Touch Network started. It was one of our very, very first videos we ever made, and it was called Trump the Snake because everything was with Trump was projection and confession. And we saw Trump would tell the story on the campaign trail about letting a snake in and a woman let the snake in.
- [78:11]
Jordy (Co-host)
I'll say this, if you remember Trump the snake. Just throw snake emojis in the chat. I want to. I want to see the OGs right now.
- [78:18]
Ben (Host)
Yeah. And Trump would act like letting immigrants in is like letting the snake in. They may seem vulnerable and helpful, but then they'll kill you is basically what he said. And our point was, no, Trump is the snake.
- [78:31]
Brett (Co-host)
Don't you get it? Why do you think he's obsessed with this story he's telling on himself like he always does? And we were talking about this six years ago ago and this is, I think, a perfect way to end this episode, because this has been our theme.
- [78:44]
Ben (Host)
He is the snake that you let
- [78:47]
Brett (Co-host)
in, but that this group led in that. That group let in. And you all thought that you were whatever and that this snake was going to fight for. No, he's going to bite you no matter who you are. And so the only way to, the only way to deal with it is
- [79:00]
Ben (Host)
to recognize it, is to stand for something.
- [79:02]
Brett (Co-host)
It's to be reliable and consistent, stand
- [79:05]
Ben (Host)
on values and pride, principles.
- [79:07]
Brett (Co-host)
And you got to oppose the snake. You really do. And you got to stand for values, you got to stand for dignity and you got to stand for people and supporting people and peace. That should be a drive. Why else are we here for this short period of time on earth to kill each other and to have war and to make the short time shorter?
- [79:27]
Poll Analyst or Political Commentator
No.
- [79:27]
Brett (Co-host)
Or is it to help leave this a better place for other people?
- [79:30]
Jordy (Co-host)
Try to contribute.
- [79:32]
Ben (Host)
That's what it's all about.
- [79:33]
Brett (Co-host)
So without further ado, this was a video we did six years ago called Trump the Snake.
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Jordi (Co-host)
Let's play it.
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Kiana (Shopify Advertiser)
Who has heard the poem called the snake?
- [79:43]
Interviewer or Additional Guest
My father gave me a small loan of a million dollars.
- [79:45]
Jordy (Co-host)
Well documented and severe financial downturn in the past year.
- [79:49]
Interviewer or Additional Guest
You.
- [79:50]
Jordy (Co-host)
You know about sexual predators and things like that.
- [79:52]
Brett (Co-host)
I mean, you are one.
- [79:53]
Shopify Business Owner
All right.
- [79:54]
Kiana (Shopify Advertiser)
It's more than anger, it's hatred.
- [79:56]
Interviewer or Additional Guest
Bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists.
- [79:59]
Kiana (Shopify Advertiser)
Down the path along the lake, a tender hearted woman saw a poor half frozen steak. You'll absolutely love Trump steaks.
- [80:09]
Commercial Announcer
More than 150 former students alleged Trump University was a fraud. Persistently illegal conduct at the President's charity.
- [80:17]
Kiana (Shopify Advertiser)
Take me in, O tender woman. Take me in, for heaven's sake, take me in, O tender woman. Wonder Woman side the vicious.
- [80:25]
Jordy (Co-host)
Would you denounce what happened in 2016?
- [80:27]
Interviewer or Additional Guest
President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.
- [80:32]
JD Vance (Guest or Referenced Politician)
He withheld the money, he withheld the meeting.
- [80:34]
Brett (Co-host)
He used it to coerce Ukraine to
- [80:36]
JD Vance (Guest or Referenced Politician)
do these political investigations.
- [80:38]
Brett (Co-host)
The American Embassy in Baghdad under siege.
- [80:40]
Kiana (Shopify Advertiser)
He stroked his pretty skin again and held him tight.
- [80:44]
Commercial Announcer
The Chinese government awarded Ivanka Trump's brand seven new trademark.
- [80:48]
Poll Analyst or Political Commentator
They're Packag grifters. His campaign manager's got two condos, a Ferrari, a yacht. They're all just leasing the campaign.
- [80:56]
Kiana (Shopify Advertiser)
That snake gave her a vicious bite.
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Brett (Co-host)
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