Brett Mycelis (6:31)

There's certainly been no shortage of news this weekend to stay a typical weekend in Trump's America. I mean, we got terrorist threats back the country on a heightened terror alert here at home. We've got new Middle east wars. We have a housing crisis here, a collapsing job market. Feels, feels like Bush America. Bush's America is back, folks. That's, that's the vibes that I am getting right now here. And Donald Trump just blurting it out yesterday, saying that this is about regime change, endorsing the idea of regime change in Iran. This just escalated so quickly. And we went from a point where the DNI Tulsi Gabbard months ago was saying that there was zero evidence that Iran had been ramping up any sort of nuclear weapons program whatsoever to all of a sudden this urgency that we have to bomb them now, we have to bomb them this second, this second. And it just, the whole thing just doesn't pass the sniff test to me. And listen, I think we could all agree here that Iran should not have nuclear weapons that they should be using in other countries. And I think we could all agree that we do not like the oppressive regime in Iran. But I think we also do not want the US to be embroiled in another Middle east war, another one of these regime change wars. I've had these my entire life. Growing up as a millennial in the United States, it was just war after war after war. And we got into these wars based on people lying to us. And it feels awfully like that right now. And so I don't know why you would ever take Donald Trump at his word now when he's been a proven liar in every other respect. And when the other folks who have seen our intelligence, like the Democrats on the intelligence committees and whatnot, have said we haven't seen any intellig that there was any urgent matter here whatsoever for Donald Trump to take the actions that he is taking. And so I think you could balance all those perspectives, have a nuanced point of view here, and realize that Donald Trump, you know, did this in a very unhinged manner. I think he made the world less safe. I think he certainly made the United States less safe. And, you know, and now we're seeing that sort of dance back and forth between Iran and the United States. Something else that doesn't quite pass the sniff test to me is the Iran retaliation of it all. I mean, we're getting reports that, that they gave Trump the heads up that they were going to attack, they gave Qatar the heads up that they were going to attack. It's clear that they felt a need to have some sort of response that they considered proportional, that they could then go to their people and say, hey, look, we did it. We got back at them. Trump, by the way, kind of did the same thing to them. I mean, he, he targeted this facility. They had moved all their stuff out already. They moved all their nuclear stuff out of the facility, they moved all their employees out of the facility. And from what we know, we don't even know how much damage was actually done to a facility like Fordo, which was the big, highest level target. We've seen the Trump administration, we've seen Even people like J.D. vance, top military officials, really kind of softening their language, other than Trump, who continues to double down, but softening their language about whether or not this facility was actually totally obliterated. So it's kind of seeming like the mission kind of achieved very little, ultimately, at the end of the day, caused more chaos. And it's just another thing, you know, if you had to kind of say, well, what has been the pattern of the Trump administration, this Trump administration and the last one, but this one in particular since day one. I think one word you could use to describe it is chaos. Chaos in all respects. And I think that's why you're seeing Donald Trump's approval rating, you know, continue to crater. People are feeling the chaos out there everywhere, whether it's with prices, whether it's with usaid, whether it's with doge. No matter where you look in this administration, it's just chaos, chaos, chaos, chaos, chaos. We're going to continue to get into all the details, everything that's going on here, but I do want to pass it over to Jordy. Jordy, how you doing?

Jordi Mycelis (10:15)

Well, I'm doing all right, I guess, all things considered. But, yeah, word of tonight's show is chaos. What we're seeing here is chaotic. What we've seen throughout this entire, entire Trump regime has been chaos. The way he's manipulated the stock market, the way tariffs have Totally thrown small businesses for loops. The way he's getting us into. Again, this is another failed campaign promise. Remember what he campaigned on? He said if President Biden, if Biden gets elected, there'll be forever wars. What actually happened, it wasn't flawless, but Biden got the troops out of Afghanistan, something presidents for generations have failed to actually do. President Biden did it. And, you know, part of the reason why it wasn't a flawless execution was actually because of Donald Trump's dealings from his previous administration. So now where do we sit right now? Well, the US Is embroiled in another global conflict. We're getting thrown into these wars, and it's all on Donald Trump and this Trump regime that just throws the United States and the United States of America into chaos day in and day out. And it's costing people's lives. It truly is.

Ben Mycelis (11:24)

Ben, I'm reminded by this post from November 2013, and I can find you dozens that are just like this. When Donald Trump posted, remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly. Not skilled. Well, former President Obama actually negotiated a deal with Iran where Iran reduced the uranium that it had. Iran was constantly being supervised by international bodies. And we were actually in a situation where, by all accounts, it seemed like they were moving away from any conversion of the uranium into a weaponized grade version of the uranium. Donald Trump during his first administration, pulled the United States out of that deal. Now, that's kind of a common theme with Donald Trump during this regime. He pulled the United States out of the usmca, the United States, Mexico and Canada agreement, which was basically a plagiarized version of NAFTA with a few updates and upgrades based on the fact that NAFTA was introduced in the mid-1990s and the USMCA was introduced in 2018. Ish, 2017, 2018. But that was Trump's deal. Trump broke that deal. Trump broke the deal that he negotiated with Japan. Donald Trump broke trilateral agreements throughout the country. I mean, throughout the world. He's broken major trade agreements. He's pulled the United States out of international bodies. He creates the problems, he creates the chaos. And then he tries to pretend that he's fixing it, but he's actually making things worse. And then he wants to ultimately take credit for these things. Look, it's clear to me that Iran's military is no match anywhere close to the United States. To use the word obliterated accurately. If Iran went to war with the United States, Iran would Iran's army would get obliterated. The United States would take a lot of casualties, especially if we put troops in the heart of, like, Tehran. But Iran would stand no chance if there was, like, a conventional military battle. So I don't foresee that something that would ever happen. But. But play out the different scenarios right now. So right now, let's just assume nothing else happens. You have the Iranian foreign minister meeting with Putin. Why would Iran right now, based on what they saw, come to the negotiating table? I mean, don't you think what they would probably do more likely now is try to accelerate a nuclear program, if anything, and try to utilize the help of a Russia or China and North Korea? And you got to remember, because Trump has no clue of the geopolitical maneuverings that are happening here, right? Iran has a defense pact with Russia, Right? So as Donald Trump is sucking up to Putin, Iran has the deal with Putin. Iran provides Putin with the drones that are being used to attack and kill the innocent Ukrainians in Kiev and other cities. So Putin's incentivized to help Iran. China gets its oil, a large portion of its oil, from Iran. So China wouldn't do anything overt. But China, behind the scenes could be helping out Iran. They have a vested interest in keeping the Iranian regime friendly to China. And then if you use the language of regime change, which to me should also be framed as, okay, you mean civil war in Iran. What do you think the likely result is going to happen? I don't really think the people of Iran, by and large, love being ruled by a tyrannical ayatollah. I don't think so. But as between one set of potential rulers and a handpicked ruler by Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu, you could call me naive, but I just don't think that in Iran they're going to want a Netanyahu pick to be the person who runs Iran. So you play that out. Regime change, what does that mean? I think a massive and bloody civil war that destabilizes the region significantly. So my view is, out of all of this, what have we actually accomplished? What have we achieved now? For Donald Trump, it was the photo op. That's what he wanted to achieve. I think with all of the other things going on in Brit and Jordi, you did a good job listing it. Disastrous trade wars against the world. Prices are going up, unemployment is going up. Housing is less affordable. He's not able to negotiate any peace between Ukraine and Russia like he promised would happen in 24 hours. The Epstein files are being covered up. The no Kings protests. Millions of Americans are showing up to protest the Trump regime. Trump's ICE raids are deeply unpopular, as you saw from the outset of the show. His polls are as bad as anyone you know, at this time has been. It's the lowest his polling has been under that Reuters Ipsos poll as well. You know, as you have all of that going on, inflation is going up. As you have all of that. To me, he wanted to be, you know, in the situation room with the MAGA hat, you know, doing the, doing the tough guy face, you know, while he bombs Iran. But what did we accomplished? What has this made us safer? Or is this yet another, another problem that has been created where we learn now four to six months from now that Iran has a nuclear weapon or that it has furthered Iran's ambitions to, to, to work more closely with Putin and China? What type of message does this send with China? Do you think that this projects strength to China? Because Trump had to call and beg China to call Iran not to close the Strait of Hormuz because Trump was panicking that oil prices were going so high. So he asked Xi Jinping to call up Iran and say, keep the Strait of Hormuz open. So you think that makes America look strong in the world. And when Donald Trump's making like, like this was a post he made this morning about Medvedev. And by the way, if you know anything about Russian politics right now, the former Prime Minister and President Medvedev does not speak for Russia. Like, he's, it's, it's, he's kind of like a troll. Medvedev online, you know, so what Medvedev.

Brett Mycelis (18:37)

Says, I'm pretty sure he just drunk tweets, honestly, all day. I wouldn't take it as official Russian.

Ben Mycelis (18:42)

Policy, which Donald Trump does. And here's. And just like, look at this. This is a crazy, like, we have to just like, look at this and say, this is a crazy thing for any human being to post yet alone the President of the United States and, you know, I guess, you know, corporate news. Just like, this is Donald. He's being Donald. I mean, here's what it said. Did I. This is what Trump wrote in a post at 8:27am in the morning. Did I hear former President Medvedev from Russia casually throwing around the N word nuclear exclamation point and saying that he and other countries would supply nuclear warheads to Iran? And did he really say that? Or is it just a figment of my imagination? If he did say that and if confirmed, please let me know immediately. The N word should not be treated so casually. I guess that's why Putin's the boss. By the way, if anyone thinks our hardware was great over the weekend, far and away the strongest and best equipment we have, 20 years advanced over the pack is our nuclear submarines. They are the most powerful and lethal weapons ever built. And. And just launched the 30 Tomahawks. All 30 hit their mark perfectly. So in addition to our great fighter pilots, thank you to the captain and crew, exclamation point. I mean, he's talking about the N word and then he says, oh, I mean nuclear. By that. That's what I mean. Did you just say that? And can I just show Brett and Jordi? I study also. And Julia Davis from the Daily beach should get a shout out to from Russian monitors because she does a great job.

Brett Mycelis (20:17)

She does an amazing, incredible.

Ben Mycelis (20:20)

And a lot of my research derives great work. So I want to give her credit where credit is due. But we monitor what they say on Russian state regime tv. And so do you think they view Donald Trump as strong and powerful? Let me show you what's going on day and night on Russian tv. We'll just play the first clip first and we'll do the second one. But let's play the first one now. Let's look at the body language. Trump left the G7 fleeing as if he'd been hit with a dusty sack. If I didn't know his personal history that he hasn't drunk all his life, I'd have the full impression that he was drunk. He was in a groggy state. Here's another.

Brett Mycelis (20:57)

These are translated, by the way, just.

Ben Mycelis (20:59)

So everybody translations from their original Russian. Here, play this clip. CNN says Trump will make a serious speech. Trump comes out and says, I have decided in the loan of the White House. I am placing two flagpoles on the left and right. They are wonderful, beautiful flagpoles with a cable inside for raising. I already explained this. Explained. I mean, he was really telling. It is a great honor for me to announce and always that's all, that I will install two beautiful flagpoles on both sides of the White House on the north and south lawns. This is the only order of Trump that will be fulfilled. Yes, it's really like now, wait, wait. Is this serious? The people, everyone is waiting. So what you're probably referring to the fact that you're going to bomb Iran now what Flag polls. But such astonished journalists ask him, Frederick, wait, what are you talking about now? That's how they view him in Russia.

Brett Mycelis (22:07)

Brett, by the way, can we pull up these photos for a second? Let's show the Situation Room photos that, you know, we were saying that Trump probably did most of this for the photo op and, you know, have this big tough guy moment. And so, you know, that he wanted to kind of emulate that Obama taking out bin Laden moment. Like, that was probably his dream. And so they released the photos probably thinking that that would be the reaction that they would get. And I just got to say, and apologies to those just listening on audio right now, but we'll do our best to describe them. But these Situation Room photos are, like, the worst, right? Like, we could all agree that nobody looks great in any of these photos here. They look nervous. They look scared. The photo composition isn't even good from, like, a photography kind of angle. Trump looks ridiculous. Vance looks ridiculous.

Ben Mycelis (22:54)

Here.

Brett Mycelis (22:54)

You see, like, as you just go through all the various pictures right here, I just don't quite think that they got that Obama photo that they were really hoping for here. And I just think, you know, Trump wants to have this kind of notion of, you know, that kind of support of a wartime president, have people kind of rally behind him on this stuff. But I really feel like. And this was something that I think a lot of people thought that Trump felt like, you know, people are exhausted by these wars. People are exhausted by the United States getting involved in every little thing. And so Trump's rush to get involved in this and to do these actions that he did over the weekend, to do these bombings, to me, I actually. I don't think that it plays well with the American public at large. And I think that's why you're seeing this splintering within MAGA itself, because even when you look at the polling, do you think the United States should be at war with Iran? It's like no polling I've ever seen in recent.

Ben Mycelis (23:48)

84%. 84.

Brett Mycelis (23:50)

4% yes, 5% no. And then the rest, I think undecided or didn't answer.

Ben Mycelis (23:56)

84% do not want the US to be in war. Yes.

Brett Mycelis (23:59)

Do not want to be. I do not want the U.S. to be. And only like, four. I got to talk to those 4 or 5% to go, yes, we want the war with Ira. I think. I think Lindsey Graham is the 4%. I think.

Ben Mycelis (24:08)

I think that's.

Brett Mycelis (24:09)

That's who it is. But. But the American people don' Want this. Most of MAGA doesn't even want this. And so I think it adds to what I was saying earlier it adds to this image of a White House in chaos, of a nation in chaos, of an administration, of a regime in chaos. It doesn't instill confidence, I think, in this administration, in this regime, what they are doing here. And I think it just adds to a long list of just horrific moves that they've done here.

Jordi Mycelis (24:37)

Absolutely. Brett, can you please bring up those photos one more time? And again, I apologize to the audio listeners, but please check out YouTube and look at these photos. So it looks like, you know, my background was in marketing. Okay, that's.

Ben Mycelis (24:49)

We're good.

Jordi Mycelis (24:49)

We're good there. My background was in marketing, and I used to do photo shoots for brands and things like that. What we're looking at, when you see those photos, they were. How do I explain it? They're doing their best impression to look serious. Brett, let's cycle through those photos one more time, actually. Let's cycle through them. They're like, make serious faces here, guys. Everyone look like they're working hard, because, I mean, it's an absolute clown show. Wearing his MAGA hat, like, again, he thought this was his Obama moment, but it's. It's an absolute clown show that they put on Dana, and all of them, from Hegseth to Rubio to Vance, they. They all look like absolute clowns. And this is what the American people. We don't want this. No. Americans want this type of chaos. What makes leaders great is having a steady hand on the wheel, not these weirdo photo ops. Not getting us into forever wars for the sake of warmongering. That's not what the American people actually want. And when you see those polls, the proof is in the pudding. Nobody wants war. What are we doing here? And Donald Trump, just for what? To have this weird photo op for his own legacy, is doing this to put, once again, his fingerprints on history, to do this to put American lives at risk. Say what you want about former President Biden. Yeah, I think he did a pretty damn good job. I think he was a steady hand on the wheel. I think I. I think he tried to find ways to make sure wars didn't happen. And now look what we have out of Donald Trump. A complete unhinged maniac that we have chaos day in and day out from every day in this country.

Brett Mycelis (26:37)

I think every president in my lifetime maybe, say, for Joe Biden actually, you know, got into wars, and Joe Biden somehow was just destroyed by people because he just helped our allies out when they were being attacked. And I think that that whole framing, to me, always really bothered me But I think in these moments people are looking for leaders to step up with a moral clarity, you know, not a poll tested response to how should I act to this moment in time, but how do I feel in this moment? What is my, what are my consistent beliefs when it comes to these things? And so I thought there was a really interesting moment that took place over the weekend where these attacks took place. And Bernie Sanders was in the middle of one of his rallies, his fighting oligarch rallies. And there was this great moment where he reacted in real time to this incident to Donald Trump striking Iran. Now I want to show you this moment. We're going to go to a quick commercial break in a second, but I really want you to see this. So stick around, you know.

Ben Mycelis (27:41)

Yeah, I want to say this though, because I when you talk about leaders with moral clarity, Charlie Angus, member of former member of Canadian Parliament who and then we're going to be doing a lot more stuff with Charlie. I've been talking to him about kind of expanding his presence here on the Midas Touch network. So to give a shout out to Charlie and also the prime minister of Canada, Mark Carney, we're going to be dropping a Carney emoji and we're going to be dropping a Charlie Angus emoji right here. One of the things we're trying to encourage is more memberships on our YouTube page right here because it helps grow our platform. We've grown. Last week we had over 5 million subscribers with zero outside investors. So you can gift memberships to people. You know, we try to make it fun. And one of the things we had do now is we have some extra exclusive content for members on the YouTube site. But also we have these emojis and if we hit 400 memberships on this episode, we will unlock the Prime Minister Carney and the Charlie Angus emoji. For our Canadian series, we already have the the elbows up. So I just wanted to say that And a reminder, Everybody, check out midasplus.com and store.midas touch.com as well. Sorry for interrupting you, Brett, but I wanted to get into the emojis. Let's take a quick break and we will be right back. MSNBC presents a new original podcast, the Best People with Nicole Wallace. Each week Nicole speaks with some of the people who inspire her the most. This week, hosts of the Midas Touch podcast, the Mycellis Brothers. I think just speaking truthfully, I on these issues and leading with humanity over gamified politics, both sides to me, that's the Midas way the best people with Nicole Wallace Listen now wherever you get your podcasts.

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Ben Mycelis (33:08)

Brett was talking about that moment during Senator Bernie Sanders fight the Oligarchy speech where Senator Sanders learned that the United States had struck those sites in Iran. And without hesitation, you know, Bernie Sanders kind of just connects with the crowd. I want to show that moment. Let's play it. This is a statement, statement from Donald Trump, quote, we have completed our very successful attack on the three nuclear sites in Iran, etc. I agree. And I want to tell you something. Not only is this news that I've just heard the second alarming that all of you have just heard, but it is so grossly unconstitutional. All of you know that, that the only entity that can take this country to war is the US Congress. The President does not have the right. So I want to share. And one of the things I want to share though is how connected Bernie Sanders I think is to the audience, to the crowd, to this moment right now, to the people. And you know, I just, when I was interviewing Senator Sanders, he said to me that the most important issues are often the issues that are least discussed. You know, in addition to the fact that Americans don't like War, they don't like never ending war. You know, there are the issues that we try to bring up time and time again here on the Midas Touch Network and we try to, we have to address what's happening, of course, you know, in the Middle East. But we also don't want to forget that there is a disastrous budget bill that's working its way through Congress that's currently with the Senate, who's making the bill even worse. It's going to take off 15 million Americans from Medicaid and from their health care. You know, that's why we refer to it as a murder bill, because it's going to kill people. It's taken away food stamps from people, it's taking away housing assistance from people. Brett did a great report on how it is selling 250 million acres of federal land to Donald Trump's billionaire buddies who are also getting massive tax cuts. The billionaires are getting trillions in tax cuts, which they could probably then go along and then buy the $250 million in federal lands, you know, to have, you know, to have it for their future generations where, you know, just the regular folks are getting screwed. You know, Donald Trump came in, he said he was going to lower prices and end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. He said that housing would be more affordable. That was the message that was out there. And now it is trade wars against the world. Now it is a war that could have been resolved in the Middle east through diplomacy. Let me just ask you, what are the objectives when it comes to Iran? What were the objectives? Was the objective regime change? Because Trump had said that was the object. Was the objective denuclearization? Was. Was that the objective? Was the objective a ceasefire after Israel attacked certain Iranian sites? What? What? What? What was the objective? Because as I'm sure you know now, Donald Trump posted on his social media platform that there's a ceasefire after saying that he didn't want a ceasefire, but now he says that there's a ceasefire. Okay, so, so read this message with me and, and let's determine what the hell is happening here. He puts this in caps. Congratulations to everyone. It has been fully agreed by and between Israel and Iran that there will be a complete and total ceasefire in approximately six hours from now when Israel and Iran have wound down and completed their in progress final missions. First off, what the hell does that even mean? For 12 hours, at which point the war will be considered ended, exclamation point. Officially, Iran will start the ceasefire and upon the 12th hour, Israel will start the ceasefire and upon the 24th hour, an official end to the 12 day war will be saluted by the world. What a weird way to phrase that. During each ceasefire, the other side will remain peaceful and respectful on the assumption that everything works as it should, which it will. I would like to congratulate both countries, Israel and Iran, on having the stamina, courage and intelligence to end what should be called the 12 Day War. This is a war that could have gone on for years and destroyed the entire Middle east, but it didn't and never will. God bless Israel, God bless Iran, God bless the Middle East, God bless the United States of America and God bless the world. Donald J. Trump. So I'm just trying to understand what happened. Is Iran denuclearized now? Is that, was that the objective? Because notably absent from that statement is that so did we just have 12 days of war in the Middle east where Iran is now going to accelerate its nuclear program and not ever enter into any type of nuclear deal? Because 12 days ago, there was supposed to be the sixth round of negotiation on a Sunday between the United States and Iran that Donald Trump said was going to be very, very, very successful. So I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to understand were the objectives achieved? What were the objectives? What is going on? How does this impact Ukraine? How does this impact, how does this impact Americans? Because you know what, it sure feels like, it sure feels like when Donald Trump declares a trade war against the world and then as the stocks are tanking and things are looking horrible, he does a taco. And then he said, oh, we got to do a deal, we got to do a deal. We got to do something. And then enters into some short term thing which results in the market's doing great. He gets his headlines on Fox for day. This was so brilliant. Could you imagine what a great strategy this was, a problem that he created, but it every day chips away and makes American weaker. When you're not rooted in what the hell is your objective? What are you so thirsty for a deal that you have to make? Deal, deal, deal. I got to make a deal, got to do. Did I do a deal? Did I do a deal? And how, how is this helping? How is this helping Americans? How is this helping us? Brett and Jordy.

Brett Mycelis (40:29)

Yeah. Hey, I'm always going to say I'm happy when there's a ceasefire between two countries. I'm always happy when people aren't killing each other. I'll start right there, right? And we'll see what happens here. I mean, there's still bombing happening as we speak. You know, there's, there's bombs over Tehran, there's, there's bombing campaigns happening right now. So we'll see where this all settles. But you're right, I mean, at the end of the day, if you're going to go into a war, if you're going to become embroile a conflict, then what are the objectives of those conflict? We haven't heard anything about any of this. Right. We haven't heard what is supposed to happen. We haven't heard what they actually want. And all we know now is that Iran was able to get, I guess, all of its nuclear stuff out of this facility, out of this Fordo facility, and move it to a safe place before Trump attacked it, and that we didn't actually do any real damage here and people's lives are put at risk in the interim, and now the world is on height and terror alerts and people are at risk. So I just don't quite understand what we achieved. I agree. It's a very much like a taco kind of statement right here. Very much like a, you know, like a fake deal that Trump now wants to spike the football and take credit for. But we'll see how it develops. You know, I'm not going to rush to a. There's no reason, I think, to rush to a judgment on, on anything here. Right. At the end of the day, you know, I value human life, I value peace, and hopefully we see that happen.

Jordi Mycelis (41:43)

Absolutely. I just want to say this, like you, you can't trust the guy as far as he could throw him. So just because he puts out this truth social post, I mean, it's.

Brett Mycelis (41:53)

He.

Jordi Mycelis (41:53)

How many times have we seen this? Right? And then we're where we started from. So.

Ben Mycelis (41:57)

Yeah, every time.

Jordi Mycelis (41:59)

Yeah.

Ben Mycelis (42:01)

How many times?

Jordi Mycelis (42:02)

Every time. Literally every time. Exactly. So I'm not holding my breath on this one, Benji.

Ben Mycelis (42:09)

And my hope, to your point is, I'll tell you what would be a great scenario. Great scenario is Iran is fully denuclearized, there's no war in the Middle East. We can now also focus on a ceasefire in Gaza, which would be nice after all the senseless death and bloodshed that we're seeing of women and children over there. Because that's something that everyone's been distracted from as well. And I think it's been intentionally done in that way. I'd like to see there be generally peace in the Middle East. I'd like to see there be a ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia. I mean, that, that was the war, you know what I mean? Like, like the war that Trump was supposed to fix is not the one that he helped create. Although by being weak to Putin, Trump was largely responsible for emboldening Putin in general. But, you know, on, on this one, when it comes to Iran, IO when it's Donald Trump, you can say trust, but verify, because you can trust. All you have to do is independently verify. And anytime he puts out a statement, especially while bombs are still going off in Tehran, you have to be, you know, very, very skeptical. Skeptical about it. And just to show you the lack of kind of geopolitical understanding that's taking place here is you have General Keith Kellogg, who was Donald Trump's first. He was supposed to be Trump's like, lead envoy to Russia and Ukraine. And then I think he got stripped of the title of envoy to Russia. And then Trump had that guy, Steve Witkoff, who's the real estate guy in New York, who wasn't, like, who didn't have any foreign intelligence experiencing. Witkoff became the kind of main liaison between the United States and, and Russia. But here, over the past, what, last week, three or four days ago, you had Keith Kellogg, former U.S. general, again one of the main reps of the U.S. and Ukraine, smile and hugging the Belarus dictator and Putin puppet Lukashenko here. Play this clip. Media face. So then they go and they sit down to meet together in a room that looks like Mar A Lago. Like it is as gaudy. It looks like the fake gold bordello that Trump has turned the Oval Office into. And Kellogg goes to Lukashenko. This looks like Mar A Lago. Here, watch this with all the gold here. This looks a lot like Mar a Lago. It does. President Trump said, I told you. That's such a. It's like a US Is like a satellite of Russia is what that looks like, right? Like, like we have our guy there praising the room and Belarus of the gold on the wall and saying, it looks like Mar a Lago. And meanwhile, you had Trump sending emails like this this weekend. This is. This was the emails that Trump was selling to people on his listserv or sending. Before the Fourth of July comes, I wanted you to have these, then you open it up. Trump signature golf balls. I sign collectible golf balls for you, but we'll only have a few of these left in stock, so if you want them, you've got to order before midnight. Order what? Why are you selling golf balls? Freaking President of the United States. Why are you selling golf balls for what in the. What in the world is going on there. When we come back, I want to talk about some issues on the home front. I want to talk about a Supreme Court ruling which basically saying now in a 6 to 3 decision, the right wing Supreme Court is allowing Donald Trump to continue to send migrants to countries where they're not from, like Sudan and Libya and wherever it's at. A horrible ruling. But it uses the framework that the Supreme Court's been using, which is as a procedural maneuver, they stay or pause the federal court rulings which block Trump from doing that because they rush to Trump's aid to say, well, let's just let these cases work their way through trial. 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Ben Mycelis (51:13)

You know, I think about Donald Trump's post about the ceasefire and this is a great moment and it kind of sums up Donald Trump with everything because when I immediately read it earlier, as an American who does not want to see war, as an American who does not want to see Iran, have Nuclear weapons. You want to believe that is true. And so I get filled with these conflicting emotions of feeling, wow, this could be great, but also knowing that this is a felon, who is saying it right, it's a sexual abuser, someone who's found liable for sexual abuse. This is someone who's been found criminally liable, a felon 34 times over for fraud. This is someone who's been found civilly liable for lying about all the different numbers of his properties and saying it's this valuation and that valuation. This is a bankrupt. This is a guy who lies about every single thing. And then. And he doesn't care about the consequences if he can capture that headline. And if you think about it, when it comes to, you know, the war in Iran, the headline he wanted, and he wants the photos, the photo of him in the Situation Room, the word obliterated, which Gannett and all the local media starts to use. Obliterated, exclamation point. And then in the story arc, because Trump's inherently a theater guy, like a TV guy in his story arc, then all of a sudden you get your immediate piece, that story ends, and then you move on to the sequel or another story, but you close that chapter. That's not the way the real world and life works. And using that microcosm, this framework as a microcosm of all the other things that he does, he recognized that Americans, one of the top issues is Americans can't afford homes. Young Americans can't afford homes. So parents have their kids living with them in the basement or in their homes. That creates friction in the household as well. The parents have to work multiple jobs to be able to hold on to their homes. They may be victims of reverse type mortgage scams that they've got to deal with as well in order to afford groceries. So Trump recognized that I think that you have, you know, people who have these problems and have it, and. And by and large, most Americans can't afford homes. Inflation's a real big issue to Americans. And so when you promise people these things and you look them in the eyes and you say you're going to do it, and people are suffering and they're having these issues and they're living paycheck to paycheck, and, you know, anybody who's got an injury and you have to work your way through our existing health care system, even with the Affordable Care Act, I mean, it's a nightmare to try to get surgeries that you need and to get affordable medicine. And these are all difficult and complicated issues, and Trump just knows how to prey on that and his trade war against the world and the promises he made, wouldn't it? We all hate the irs, who likes the irs, who's like, I love the irs. So Trump tells you, we're going to get rid of the irs. We're going to do the External Revenue Service because we're going to get so rich off the tariffs that nobody's going to have to pay their taxes. It's going to be great. So you mix. It's a potent formula. It's a potent. You mix the fraud on all of these issues and then you have your enemy, and your enemy are migrants. They're criminals, they're Hannibal Lecter, they're coming out of insane asylums to kill you. And I'm trying to get you all of these things I promised. But this group of people, these migrants, they're out there preventing me in my Marvel fictitious world of getting you all of those things. So we've got to battle the enemy from within while I try to deliver on all of the things that I'm not delivering for you. And while all of that is happening, you have the Mar A Lago crew, Trump's billionaire friends, who, Trump is giving them benefits, personal benefits, you know, and in the forms of, you know, massive tax cuts to them, not the rest of us, to the billionaires and, and deca millionaires. And then Trump enriches himself and enriches his family in the process. Like, that's what's going on here. And it's a vicious cycle because again, Brett and Jordi, you've seen this, like, even among a very media literate, savvy audience, the first instinct when you read that is to say, oh, that sounds like a good deal. And then you have to look there like, but wait a minute, Israel's still bombing Tehran, like, and it looks still pretty bad there. So what kind of ceasefire is this if you know, if it's going down and then Iran comes out with a statement and said, Iran has not received any ceasefire proposal, senior officials say. So then you go back to it, is he just making up a fake ceasefire? Because you, you can't possibly fathom that he can make up a false ceasefire. I told someone who will remain anonymous, who, who, who works at the company, who, who, who said to me, when he read Donald Trump's statement, he said, it sounds like a pretty good deal. And I said to the person who will remain nameless, I said, how could you be so naive? I said, I bet you there's no deal. And the person said to me, what do you. What do you mean? There I go. I bet you there's not even a season. How could that be? Because who the hell makes up ceasefire deals? Who the hell makes up fake conversations that don't take place? But Trump says he speaks to Xi Jinping. That that never happened. Trump says he, he talks to all these people. We have to recognize fundamentally we're actually dealing. And I don't want to make light in any way. So please let me try to be very sensitive in this because I know one words like he's insane or he's psycho. I understand those words could be triggering when I say that. And sometimes I could be in artful in my delivery because it is around a very serious topic. And I also do not want to allow Donald Trump to use a real issue of mental illness to avoid accountability. So I just want to preface with what I'm about to say, but this is a guy who walks around talking about Alcatraz and that he. And sharks and. And he puts these weird props, human beings as props behind him. Like last week he had the Juventus football team, the soccer team behind him as he was having conversations about war. Before that, he put these construction workers and their faces are like, what the hell is he saying? And I think part of the humiliation ritual he puts people through also is part of this. Like he brings Roger Goodell and the mayor of D.C. into the Oval Office ostensibly to talk about D.C. hosting the NFL draft. So obviously, for a D.C. mayor, that's a good get to have the NFL in your city. So the mayor wants to be proud of that, you know, for, for Goodell, you know, I guess he wants to stay on the good side of Trump in order to deal with, you know, whatever, you know, the NFL business issues there, whatever. I know. And the, and the owners, by and large, are very trumpy. But just this is the. This is who we're dealing with. You're here. Play this clip just to remind people, I want to make a point about it, but just show this clip from, I think, May 5th. Let's play it. How did you decide to reopen Alcatraz? Can you walk us through that decision?

Brett Mycelis (59:45)

Did I say what to reopen Alcatraz? How will you use it?

Ben Mycelis (59:49)

How did you come up with the idea? Well, I guess I was supposed to be a movie maker. We're talking. We started with the movie making. It will end. I mean, it represents something very strong, very powerful in terms of law and order. Our country needs law and order. Alcatraz is, I would say, the ultimate right? Alcatraz, Sing Sing and Alcatraz, the movies. But it's right now a museum, believe it or not, a lot of people go there. It housed the most violent criminals in the world, and nobody ever escaped. One person almost got there, but they, as you know the story, they found his clothing rather badly ripped up, and it was a lot of shark bites. A lot of it's like, what the.

Brett Mycelis (60:34)

Hell is he even talking about there? Right? I just want to say, like, we could probably do an entire episode going through things that Donald Trump has said over the past last few months alone. We could keep it to this term, or we could even keep it to the last few months. Things that Donald Trump has said, things that he has dangled in front of the American people, things that he's dangled in front of his followers that all of a sudden he just stops talking about at a certain point. When's the last time you heard about this Alcatraz idea, the reopening of Alcatraz? He was very for it.

Ben Mycelis (60:59)

This is.

Brett Mycelis (60:59)

This is his big thing one week, right? This was his shiny keys that he was dangling in front of everybody. What's one of those other things? Remember Fort Knox? Remember Donald Trump every day saying he was going to find the gold in Fort Knox. We're going in there, we're going to find the gold inside of Fort Knox. That was day in and day the guy would not shut up about Fort Knox. Suddenly, that's one way as well. I mean, he just finds these distractions. And it's like every week he kind of targets, what are these things that I could dangle to people to get them to kind of look the other way, to forget that prices are up, to forget that the economy is in the toilet, to forget that all these wars are still ongoing, that I failed in all these other respects. And so that's what he does. And so, you know, I think it's important that we do reflect that we do go back and say, you remember that Alcatraz shit that was kind of crazy, right? And remember how he just totally dropped it? And remember that Fort Knox thing, because it just shows you what a fraud he is. And also kind of the inner workings of the scam, how the scam is present. Remember Doge checks?

Ben Mycelis (61:54)

Wow.

Brett Mycelis (61:54)

What happened to those $5,000 doge checks everyone was going to receive? Right. All the Trump people were super excited about that.

Ben Mycelis (62:00)

Right?

Brett Mycelis (62:00)

Oh, Doge was a total failure and actually added to the debt and added to the deficit. Oh, oh, okay. And that was just a total bullshit thing. Yeah, it happens over and over and over again. But Trump just goes from one distraction to the next distraction to the next distraction and hopes you forget about the other ones.

Ben Mycelis (62:16)

Here's what JD Van said a little bit earlier when they moved the goalposts again. Remember what I said before? I said, what are the goals and objectives or the goals and objectives? Denuclearization. Okay, well, make that case. Explain it to me. What's going on. Was the goal regime change, it's pretty severe and serious. Or is the goal now that America is content that the uranium is buried deeper? Buried deeper? Is that, that. That's the new line that they're going with. Watch what JD Vance said moments ago on Fox. Let's play it. You said totally obliterated. The President has said totally obliterated, obliterated the Iran nuclear program. Do you know for sure where all the highly enriched uranium is?

Brett Mycelis (63:11)

Well, Brett, I think that's actually not.

Ben Mycelis (63:13)

The question before us.

Brett Mycelis (63:15)

The question before us is can Iran enrich the uranium to a weapons grade level and can they convert that fuel to a nuclear weapon? And we know, based on the success of our mission, of course, the leadership of the President, but the incredible skill of our military, that the two mission objectives are completely successful. We know that they cannot build a nuclear weapon. Now, you asked about the highly enriched uranium.

Ben Mycelis (63:37)

Yeah, like 900 pounds of it.

Brett Mycelis (63:39)

But what we know, Brett, is that uranium is something that exists in very large supply. Our goal was to bury the uranium, and I do think the uranium is buried. But our goal was to eliminate the enrichment and eliminate their ability to convert that enrichment fuel into a nuclear weapon. I actually just, I think this is an important point, Brett, because so many of the folks who have focused on the highly enriched uranium main focus, Brett, has been to destroy their enrichment capacity because we don't want that 60% in radium to become 90% in radium.

Ben Mycelis (64:11)

That's the real concern.

Brett Mycelis (64:12)

And that's what was so successful about our mission.

Ben Mycelis (64:14)

The hell is he talking about? That's what he's. The whole issue is, is that the uranium can become highly enriched. And the question is, did you knock out that process? Because your Director of national intelligence said 90 days ago exactly what Vance. Just like, like you could have had Tulsi Gabbard say that word for that. That's what she said 90 days ago, what he just said. And they said something different to justify the attack. So it basically seems that nothing changed and has gotten worse since Obama by far. And now they're making up fake ceasefires. And you. I'll just show you how fraudy they are, you know, and one of the humiliation rituals is, you know, Trump will make up these lies and then he's got to have people like a Vance or a Rubio, like, roll with it. So when Rubio was asked a similar question about the goals and objectives, watch how he responds to it. Here, play this clip.

Brett Mycelis (65:20)

Are you saying there that the United States did not see intelligence that the Supreme Leader had ordered weaponization?

Ben Mycelis (65:30)

That's irrelevant. I think that question being asked in the media. That's an irrelevant question.

Brett Mycelis (65:34)

That is the point in U.S. intelligence assessments, you know. No, it's not. Yes, it was. No, it's not. Political decision. I know that better than you know that. And I. I know that that's not the case. But I'm asking whether the order was given.

Ben Mycelis (65:47)

That's literally the whole thing.

Brett Mycelis (65:49)

It's the whole thing. I mean, it's why it's the whole predicate for doing this in the first place. Like, I just don't know how. I mean, I do know how. They have no soul, I guess, they have no morals, they have no actual values or anything to stand on here. But in these situations, you need a government that's telling you that, the truth. You need to understand clear objectives. The people deserve it. Everybody in the world deserves to know what is actually wanted. It's the same thing that happens in these tariff deals. You need to know what both parties want in order to come to a deal. And in this case, if you're constantly moving the goalposts as to what you want or what the actual end game is here, then you're not going to ever land on a deal here. And so it's just going to be more chaos, constantly going over and over again. And I know Trump likes to create these problems, and then he likes to say that he solved the problems that he created. But that does not make you a firefighter, that makes you an arsonist. And that's what Donald Trump did in his tariffs. That's what Donald Trump is doing right now in this Iran, Israel situation. It's quite literally what he does everywhere. It's what he does with fema. It's what he does when there's a hurricane that hits North Carolina, Trump tries to create an issue, and then he tries to find a way to say, I fixed it, even after he makes the situation much worse. Do you see the patterns? Do you see the fraud? Because I think we're showing you now beat by beat exactly how that fraud works.

Ben Mycelis (67:08)

Do you know another name for a fake deal? Another name for a fake deal is. It's called fraud. Okay? And when a criminal acts like a criminal who is convicted of a business fraud, that shouldn't shock us. That's what the guy. That's what the guy does. Oh, my God. Jeffrey Dahmer murdered more people. It's what he does. That's kind of his shtick. That's. That's what he does. And so Donald Trump, guess what, he made fake deals before he was the president. And guess what that was called. Fraud. And guess what, that led to bankruptcy. He did it all the time. He did it all the time. He would just lie about things and the counterparty be like, what the hell are you doing? What are you doing? And he was born with a golden spoon in his mouth. He had a lot of money, a lot of daddy's money to throw around and that he could, that he could waste. And he was such a insane human being that he would just sue everybody and tie people up in litigation, you know, forever, and then try to use his platform to make people's lives miserable. And then. And then he would move on to the next one and leave a trail of suffering behind him. And now, rather than daddy's money, it's Uncle Sam's money money. Uncle Sam is Daddy. And he goes around and he does fake deals with uncles with his new daddy. And unfortunately, that's our. That's our money. That's taxpayers money. You know, and, and, and this stuff impacts us all. And it's causing real, serious pain and suffering in the United States of America. It's causing real, major problems here in the United States of America that needs to be addressed. And that's what we're going to take head on here each and every day. And, you know, we'll do more takes on this Supreme Court ruling. But, you know, the Supreme Court, through its procedural docket, often called the shadow docket, the six to three right wing, they keep on doing the same thing where they stay or pause the lower court rulings and the lower court, federal court rulings ruling, blocks Trump's unlawful behavior. You'll have judges, Trump appointed judges, Bush appointed judges, Reagan appointed judges, Biden, Obama appointed judges, all of them federal judges, which is the, the first level of court, then court of Appeals, then Supreme Court. They'll block what Trump is doing. Then it gets to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court keeps on granting what are called emergency stays for the Trump administration because the Supreme Court says we have to be so deferential to the executive branch. We need to preserve the status quo. And the right wing Supreme Court interprets the status quo as what existed before the district court made its order. Where I view the status quo as what happened before Donald Trump violated the law. So based on that just technical framing of what is the status quo, was it when Trump did the unlawful thing or was it how it existed before the unlawful thing? They are allowing Trump's unlawful things to stay in effect during the pendency of a lawsuit where the real irreparable harm which is the standard for granting a stay is not being caused to the Trump regime. Mandarin Mussolini and his, you know, ridiculous Alcatraz behavior. The irreparable harm is being caused to the people like, who are involved in this case. So this case was brought by an individual who was sex trafficked, a gay man who was sex trafficked in Guatemala. He then fled to Mexico, where he was held for ransom in Mexico. He then fled to the United States because the gangs in Guatemala found him in Mexico. He fled to the United States. There was a finding. You can't send this guy back to Guatemala. There was no finding yet about Mexico because there was no threat under the Biden administration that they would send him to Mexico. So that issue just hadn't be reached. The Trump regime takes them. They fabricate a false declaration. And how do we know it's a false declaration? Because no one in the DOJ agreed to testify once they were deposed about who wrote this declaration and what was, was what was in it. But they were claiming in the fake declaration that this individual, this migrant, claimed he was not afraid to go to Mexico, which was a total lie. On that false pretext, they sent him to Mexico, and then Mexico, I think, sent him back to Guatemala where he was sex trafficked and raped. Okay, so that's what this case is about. And it's about people like him who seek asylum in the U.S. there are international treaties on this issue as well against torture. Because sending people back, right? When MAGA Republicans, they talk about sex trafficking all the time. That's a form of, it's a bad form of torture. So the Supreme Court basically says, we don't know if Trump is going to win or lose this case, but we're going to preserve the status quo. Which was Trump changing the standards for how you view these transfers, these deportations, I call them abductions, but deportations to third countries because this guy was not from Mexico. Remember, we've heard the stories about people being sent to Sudan to Sudan to Libya to El Salvador and the Supreme Court basically saying with limited notice, as long as there's a notice that is given and there has to be some process. But the idea of third party, third country transfers is okay for now and we'll have to wait a year or two. What do you think's gonna happen in that year or two? You know, it is a callous and fascist and despicable court, right. Led by. And the three liberal justices were like, what the hell are you doing doing the hell is this kind of ruling? And we're seeing lots of rulings like that procedurally allowing Trump to get by on what he's doing. So that's something that we're going to keep on calling out here at the Midas Touch Network. I want to remind everybody to check out our podcast. It's on the MSNBC, YouTube and also on audio with Nicole Wallace. I had such an incredible time doing that interview with my brothers and, and Nicole, you know, there, there are a few reporters who we do those with and she's one of them and, and it was great that I got to interview her here. So check out the audio podcast or the video which you go to the podcast section if you want to find it quicker on the MSNBC, YouTube. Thanks to everybody who became a member to unlock the Carney and Angus emojis. I want to, if you can become a member even though the emojis have already been unlocked, gift other memberships to people if you can. You can gift unlimited memberships to people if you want to do. 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Brett Mycelis (74:55)

No, that's it. You know, thank you everybody for your support. Appreciate your support of this independent platform. Appreciate all the comments we got on the Nicole Wallace interview of it went up this morning. I already see such amazing feedback on that interview. So be sure to check it out on, on, on her channel. Be sure to make sure that you add the Midas Touch podcast on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. If you're watching this on YouTube, I want you to go and do that right now. We have a whole lot of people watching. That really helps. Let's continue to grow the show show. Let's continue to make it the most listened to and downloaded podcast in the United States. And dare I say, the world. I'm so grateful for you. I mean, what we are doing here as a community, I think it's just truly special. We're going to continue to stay on top of this, as you know, with more updates throughout the day, throughout the week. We certainly know this is not the end of the situation and we obviously do not have the full picture of everything that's going on because we have an administration that lies through their teeth the way people breathe. And so we're going to continue to follow that. So make sure you're constantly checking back on the Midas Touch podcast channel, on the Midas Touch YouTube channel for more updates as we go. And, you know, I'll just leave it there because we got a lot, we got a lot more to report on and this has been a great episode. We covered a whole lot. So Jordy, why don't you take it away?

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