MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 6/30/26

Summary

The MeidasTouch Podcast — Full Episode Summary

Episode: June 30, 2026
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Theme: Dissecting Current Events, From Escalations with Iran and Supreme Court Decisions to the Failure of Trump’s Great American State Fair

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the Meiselas brothers deliver a comprehensive and often hilarious breakdown of a tumultuous week in American politics: escalating tit-for-tat military action between the US and Iran, the bizarre saga of Trump’s Great American State Fair, landmark Supreme Court rulings undermining independent agencies, and the twisted messaging (and reality distortion) of the Trump regime and MAGA movement. Blending layered policy analysis with the brothers’ trademark banter, the discussion explores how lies—big and small—erode democracy, manipulate markets, and inflict pain on American families.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. US-Iran Escalation: War as Political Theater

Timestamps: [02:01–09:16], [30:09–42:07]

• Airstrikes and Market Manipulation

  • The US conducted strikes against Iran just after markets closed ([02:01]). Iran responded by striking US bases in Bahrain and Kuwait.
  • Axios reporter Barak Ravid reliably tweets “talks” or “de-escalation” updates an hour ahead of markets opening—leading the brothers to highlight how predictable and performative these cycles are.
    • Ben: “It's as predictable of a cycle as Donald Trump infecting things that should otherwise be great.” ([02:17])
    • Brett: “I feel like we've been locked in this just bizarre purgatory… at war, not at war, Trump screws up something basic, blames Democrats, repeat, repeat, repeat.” ([06:48])

• The Groundhog Day of War Under Trump

  • Jordy: “We are just in dumb Groundhog's Day… this war with Iran is going to go on forever and ever until there’s a new president.”
  • The brothers dissect how Trump weaponizes cycles of escalation and “ceasefire” for political and economic effect, with market sentiment swinging on official leaks or tweets ([07:57]).

• MOUs, Double Crosses, and Sabotage

  • Ben provides an in-depth analysis of conflicting US agreements (MOUs), Rubio’s back-channel diplomacy with Netanyahu, and how these actions sabotage actual peace talks ([30:09–42:07]).
  • The US and Iran cancel scheduled nuclear talks, with Trump administration proxies (Witkoff, Kushner) “negotiating” in Qatar without Iran present.
  • “The real story is, it was canceled. The actual talks that was supposed to be productive on enrichment… that was canceled. And now there are fake talks,” Ben emphasizes ([39:50]).

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2. Trump’s Great American State Fair—and the Symbolism of Lies

Timestamps: [02:01–23:18]

• Failure-by-Design & MAGA Takeover

  • Once a well-funded, Smithsonian-planned, bipartisan event, the State Fair is taken over by Trump’s “Freedom250” effort, now a ghost town despite Fox News framing ([02:01–09:16]).
  • Trump posts wildly inflated attendance numbers and claims it’s a “great success.”
    • Ben: “You think about Obama’s [Presidential Center] opening… it was cool, inspiring, uplifting. Trump takes over the fair and the reflecting pool, and it’s all disgusting and divisive.”
  • Brett: “Could you be freaking normal? If you mess up, you mess up. But be normal. The lying about objective facts… is the single most damaging thing about Trump and this MAGA movement.” ([15:38])
  • Jordy: “Don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining. If it’s a bad event, it’s a bad event.” ([21:39])

• Gaslighting As Governance

  • The brothers warn that constant MAGA lying—hyped numbers for the fair, false claims of sabotage at the reflecting pool—numbs the public and is both a symptom and a weapon of authoritarianism.
  • Quote: “If you’re willing to lie about this stupid stuff so poorly, what else are you just willing to lie about?” —Jordy ([21:39])

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3. Supreme Court: Agency Control and Exception for the Fed

Timestamps: [02:01–05:36, 73:08–80:28]

• Humphrey’s Executor Overruled:

  • A pivotal 6–3 decision (Slaughter) abolishing the independence of federal agencies—now the President can fire any official at will, reversing nearly a century of precedent ([02:01], [73:08]).
    • Ben: “Independent agencies should all be independent. These are horrific rulings.”
  • However, the Federal Reserve is carved out by a 5–4 decision—the only exception, in what the brothers call blatant self-preservation for markets.
    • Ben: “They go, ‘Federal Reserve’s different’—because, so we say. Don’t screw up our stocks, Donald.”
  • Quote: “The Supreme Court doesn’t follow precedent… They know if they ruled against Donald Trump on that case that the markets would absolutely tank.” —Ben ([78:25])

• E. Jean Carroll Ruling

  • The Supreme Court denies Trump’s appeal in the E. Jean Carroll defamation/sexual assault case; his civil liability stands ([05:36]).
    • “He can no longer claim appeal. He’s been found liable of sexual assault and defamation. That period’s run out.” —Ben ([78:25])

• Mail-in Ballot Decision

  • The Supreme Court (5–4) affirms that mailed ballots postmarked by Election Day are valid, a small win for democracy ([78:25], [80:28]).

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4. Housing Affordability Bill: A Missed Bipartisan Opportunity

Timestamps: [53:15–62:35]

• Bipartisan Success—Undermined & Trivialized by Trump

  • Despite bipartisan legislation to address the housing crisis, Trump refuses to support it, calling it a “big yawn.”
    • Trump (clip): “Much more than a bill… it’s a yawn.” ([55:53])
  • Brett: “Trump is making it harder for Americans to buy a home unless he’s allowed to make it harder for them to vote.”
  • Trump’s logic is that helping homeowners may diminish the wealth of private equity and landlord elites—his base.
    • “He was a landlord, right? …That's how he ran things. He wants to help the slumlords, not new homebuyers.” —Ben ([59:50])

• Zero-Sum, Ego-Driven Politics

  • The brothers explain Trump won’t acknowledge an affordability problem, as fixing it would admit failure and spoil his “golden era” illusion.
    • Jordy: “Signing a bipartisan housing bill would be Trump… acknowledging the affordability crisis under his presidency, connecting him to Herbert Hoover—someone who's on his mind these days.” ([58:38])

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5. Mass Gaslighting, Propaganda, and the Weaponization of Lies

Throughout, esp. [15:38–23:18], [42:07–47:40], [66:14–71:35]

• Authoritarian Playbook:
  • Ben, Brett, and Jordy lay out the pattern: routine lies, amplified by state media (Fox), lay the groundwork for justifying more grievous actions: anti-immigrant violence, attacks on voting, and even war.
  • Brett: “If the government lies about something you can see with your own eyes, what about what you can’t check? The economy, the war, ICE, immigration—all propaganda, all tied together.” ([17:39])
  • Trump’s tactic is to make all criticism of him a criticism of America, weaponizing patriotism against dissenters ([42:07–44:57]).

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6. Hope, Progress, and Contrast with "MAGA"

Timestamps: [66:14–73:08]

• Positive Vision vs. Fear-based Movements:
  • The brothers contrast the positive, empathetic leadership of politicians like Zoran Mamdani with Trump’s culture of grievance and division.
    • Brett: “Anytime Mamdani walks around NY, it’s like Mickey Mouse in Disneyland. The energy is hope, positivity. Trump’s supporters only have fear and anger.” ([66:14])
    • “You don’t have to have a worse life than your parents… you don’t have to live this way. There’s an alternative, and that’s the energy that Trump is scared of.”

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7. Closing Reflections: Where Does the Country Go From Here?

Timestamps: [73:08–end]

• Hunter Biden’s Analysis on Hate vs. Love

  • Hate is potent but unsustainable. Love and empathy, while harder work, build long-term communities.
    • “Hate compounds hate and…results in travesty and catastrophe. Love and community is a more long-term sustainable force.” —(paraphrased from Hunter Biden) ([73:08])

• A Dark Chapter, But Not the Final One

  • The brothers urge listeners to reject right-wing framing, call out lies, and work for real progress.
    • Brett: "When you succeed on the merits, it makes Donald Trump look smaller. Present a positive vision." ([70:36–71:16])
    • Ben: “We need to slingshot into a forward progress generationally that lasts forever…”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jordy: “We’re just in dumb Groundhog's Day… stuck in this stupid cycle because of Donald Trump.” ([07:57])
• Brett: “Could you be freaking normal? Okay, could you be normal?” ([15:38])
• Ben: "Now the rest of us are like nonconsensual shareholders in the Trump meme company. We don’t want your meme coin!” ([12:38])
• Jordy: “Don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining… MAGA just loves being pissed on!” ([21:39])
• Ben: “What con artists like [Trump] are able to do as a fraud…he senses the fear and the pain but knows how to exploit it and take advantage of it…” ([60:41])
• Trump (clip): “I think it’s the biggest threat to our nation…maybe since our founding. That includes World War I, World War II, September 11th.” (On “communism,” [64:18–64:57])
• Brett: “Any post where we mention the fair flopping, you get a MAGA person: ‘Wow, you must hate America.’ No, it’s the truth.” ([42:07])
• Ben: “The Supreme Court doesn’t follow precedent…they care about their pocketbook.” ([78:25])

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Segment Timestamps

• US-Iran escalation and Groundhog Day analysis: [02:01–09:16]
• State Fair fiasco, reflecting pool scandal, Fox’s propaganda: [09:16–23:18]
• Gaslighting, lies as authoritarian weapon: [15:38–23:18]
• War, market manipulation, and true motives behind Iran talks: [30:09–42:07]
• Supreme Court ruling, E. Jean Carroll case: [73:08–80:28]
• Housing affordability bill, Trump’s disregard: [53:15–62:35]
• Contrast between hope-based and fear-based politics: [66:14–73:08]
• Closing reflections and broader themes: [73:08–end]

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Tone & Style

• Unapologetically pro-democracy, anti-MAGA, sharply critical of authoritarianism.
• Mix of technical policy analysis and irreverent, brotherly humor.
• Frequent use of real quotes/clips from Trump to illustrate points.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode:

This episode is a must-listen for anyone who wants to understand how small, “stupid” lies (like pretending a fair is full or a pool is immaculate) are part of a much larger machinery of deceit, manipulation, and anti-democratic purpose. The MeidasTouch crew connect the dots between Supreme Court power grabs, market manipulation, foreign policy chaos, and daily gaslighting—while showing why hope and progress remain potent antidotes to MAGA’s politics of fear.

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To follow up:

• Read the Iran MOU on the MeidasTouch Substack
• Stay tuned for more on upcoming Supreme Court decisions
• Join the brothers’ community at MidasPlus.com and support pro-democracy media

Transcript

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we've got a lot to discuss on this episode of the Midas Touch podcast. On Friday, US engaged in military strikes against Iran. Then it did it again. On Saturday, Iran struck back, hitting American military bases in Bahrain and Kuwait. And then a few hours before the futures markets were set to open, Barack Ravid of Axios posted that sources told him that we were having a meeting with Iran and everything was good and that we would no longer be striking Iran. This is as a predictable cycle as just about any. It's as predictable of a cycle as Donald Trump infecting things that should otherwise Be great. Like the Great American State Fair, which, how do you blow that? How do you make that the weirdest and grossest non attended thing ever? Donald Trump found a way to figure it out. The Great American Fair was taken over by Donald Trump's counter programming group called former freedom 250 away from the Smithsonian and American 250. And now they've turned it into some weird oddity where no one is showing up. I mean, to be fair, there may be like 35 people there, but state regime media, which calls itself Fox, has like literally devoted every single day of like trying to make it a thing and nobody wants to be there. Newer people want to be though in homes that they can afford. Donald Trump continues, however, to say that the housing affordability bill, which was passed on a bipartisan basis, is just a gigantic yawn. Direct quote from Donald Trump. That thing, that's a big yawn. And if Democrats like it, why should I even like it? Another direct quote from Donald Trump. It's the first time we actually saw a bipartisan piece of legislation that Donald Trump could have got credit for which actually helped the American people. And he absolutely hates it. We'll talk about what's going on there. Donald Trump saying, though, the key thing we need to do from now until the election, we need to be hunting communists. He says that Democrats are now communists and these communists are the biggest threat to the country, even a bigger threat than 9, 11, World War II, World War I, and any enemy of the United States. He says it's the Democratic communists. We told you that this would be their messaging approaching the midterms. And the messaging has arrived and it is more outrageous and outlandish than ever expected. But speaking of outrageous and outlandish, he you take a look at some of these Supreme Court decisions. I guess it was a mixed bag. You had a 6 to 3 decision in a case called Slaughter where the United States Supreme Court slaughtered the idea of independent agencies, saying there is no such thing as an independent agency anymore and that the President of the United States gets to fire anybody he wants on any independent agency. He has no ability, I mean there's no ability to avoid whatever the President wants to do. That's it. And that changed 90 years of law in a case called Humphrey Executives. But then the Supreme Court said, but we've got one exception that we're just going to make up because you know, the Supreme Court is kind of in on this whole market manipulation thing that Donald Trump's been doing. And they go, okay. When it comes to the Federal Reserve. They're different than every other agency. Why Supreme Court 6 to 3, right wing fascist court. Because, so we say, so we're going to distinguish the Federal Reserve. You could, you could impact all these other agencies, but don't screw up our stocks, Donald. Don't screw up our money. We're going to protect that one right there.

[Brett]

I mean, come on.

[Ben]

The bottom line is that independent agencies should all be independent. These are horrific rulings by the Supreme Court. I guess we are. It's a good thing that Lisa Cook on the Federal Reserve Board, she's a governor. That as, at least as of now, under the latest Supreme Court 5 to 4 decision, because they say the Federal Reserve's different, Trump can't fire her, but they're just making up an exception and divining it as the law in order to protect their, their money while screwing over the American people in every other. Which way. Also should be noted, the Supreme Court declined to hear Donald Trump's appeal of the E. Jean Carroll case against him where Trump was found civilly liable for sexual assault and defamation. That means on that case where Trump was found civilly liable for sexual assault and defamation, his appeals have run out. We'll talk about that and more on this episode of the Midas Touch Network. Brett on the Midas Touch podcast. Brett and Jordy, good to see you. Midas Touch podcast on the Midas Touch Network. And, you know, it's so predictable. Brett and Jordy is like, okay, Sunday, when. When's Barack Rabid going to post? And Jordy, you were the first to send it in the brothers chat. And you were like, yeah, he did it.

[Brett]

We're so, we're so Barack, you guys. We're so, We're. We're so Barack right now. I. I can't believe we're back in this feedback loop, this market manipulation feedback loop. And when all this was going down Friday, I think like somebody in our chat, it may have been me because we have all these chats with everybody at Midas, and we're constantly making jokes and talking about the news. And somebody said, you know, like an hour before Futures Bureaucracy, it's coming in with that tweet to say, guess what? Strikes are off. You know, it's gonna, everything's gonna be great. No more war, Ceasefire. And it was basically said as like a half joke. But, of course, that's exactly what happened. I feel like we've been locked in this just bizarre kind of purgatory where it's like we're at war. The Futures are about to open. No, we're not at war anymore. Trump has some project of the week that he manages to screw up. That should be incredibly basic, that he screws up in some catastrophic fashion. He blames Democrats and libs or whoever he wants to blame. He does some other heinous stuff and repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat. Here we are. Anyway, it's good to be here with everybody. Good to be here, Ben. Jordy. Great to be here. Midas Mighty excited to get into it, you know, always. We got to check in with Jordyn. Jordy, what's the latest?

[Jordy]

Brothers Midas Mighty. I am pumped to be here tonight. We have a lot to get into. We are. We're just in dumb Groundhog's Day. That's what we're living through right now because the cycle is so obvious. And also, to me, I'm not in the prediction business, especially when trying to talk about, you know, something as serious as war. But it just feels like we will never get out of this, at least under the current Trump regime and the Trump presidency. Like, this just feels like I'm talking about the war with Iran is going to go on forever and ever until there's. There's a new president. Because, I mean, Donald Trump loves to, like, throw shade at Obama's deal that we were able to do back then and all of that. But ultimately, like, the more and more this drags on those. The greatest deal ever. Like, Donald, you can't do anything. Like, you can't do anything. We are stuck in this cycle of stupidness because of Donald Trump, where Barack Ravid gets to throw in his tweet every Sunday. The markets get to go up. We do some bombing when the markets close on Friday afternoon. Like, I don't want to make light of it, but that's just what we're constantly seeing. So when I'm presented with the data and the data says we are forever stuck in stupid Groundhog's Day, well, that's what we're stuck in, I guess, apparently. Ben, what do you think?

[Ben]

Well, look, the Obama Presidential center. The tickets are all sold out through November. It's like the hottest ticket to possibly get. And remember, Donald Trump was just relentlessly trashing it. He would post AI photos of the Obama Presidential center and make it look like a garbage can. And I have to even admit, while Donald Trump was attacking the Presidential center relentlessly and it was still being constructed, I looked at it and I was saying, all right, it's coming together. It looks a little interesting. You know, I'M not sure, you know, I'm a fan of that kind of, of brutalist architecture, however, you know, it's described. But it came together beautifully. The campus looks amazing. It looks like the coolest place imaginable. And it was filled with the best entertainers for its opening. It was funny. It brought tears to my eyes. The speeches were incredible. And it's this enduring testament to the greatness, actually, of our country. And it looks amazing. It's. You contrast that to Donald Trump, who talks the biggest game that there is, and the tough guy Chad, and I'm gonna make this so amazing. And he can't even run what should be the easiest layup. We'll talk about it more in a little bit in this show. But we've all either been to a state fair or a county fair out here in la. I think about the LA County Fair, but I'm sure in your own hometown or county, there's one that you've been to before, and it's great. And it's. And there's food and the smells and the rides and the games and the family enjoyment and all of that. And this was a layup because it was previously going to be run by the Smithsonian and it was going to be a nonpartisan thing. It had ample funding. People wanted to be associated with it. And then Donald Trump put his hands all over it, his disgustingness all over it. And you just even think about the kickoff, they just think about the kickoff. Like, despite the fact that, you know, this was the way Trump's handled freedom 2:50 and taking over American 2:50. And it was all so horrible. And he lied to the performance. But, like, okay, you do the announcement. Remember that speech that Donald Trump gave? And it was kicked off with Sean Duffy, who's has a lot of kids, one of his children has down syndrome, standing right next to him. And Sean Duffy begins by saying, and we don't need those libtards. We don't need them around us one bit. We don't need those performers. And it's like, that's your speech to the American people. And that's what kind of kicked it off. I mean, you think about Obama's speech and Michelle Obama's speech, talking about these higher callings and values of the American people and inspired people. Even if you didn't think about going to the Obama Presidential Center, I want to be associated with that feels good. And then you go to this, you know, this heinous thing of this Trump regime, and you're like, I don't want to be associated with that. I don't want to go to some hate fueled event and people aren't going. And we'll talk about it again a little later in the show where you have state regime media, which calls itself Fox, they're out there every day. They're giving it the Melania treatment. I say the Melania treatment because for her movie, that awful documentary, they spent all of their resources in Fox promoting it. Promoting it, promoting. They're promoting the hell out of this thing. And if it was just a normal day in Washington, D.C. in June at this time, it's hot. But you'd have a lot of people out there picnicking and having fun and you'd have thousands of people out there right now. You just have a few dozen people here or there that are at this fair and it looks horrible. But the broader symbolism of all of this, right, is that Trump says it's great and it's not. And it all ties into the fraud the same way. His reflecting pool, he's turned that into something gross and disgusting physically and symbolically. And then he blames it on antifa and vandals and he makes it into this oddity and this horrible, divisive thing. Why is a reflecting pool, an affair, so divisive? Because of him. You know, the people like, well, you're making a political. No, no, he's made it, he took it over and made it into a thing for himself. And it's really bad. And then his post this morning, I'll turn it over to you, Brett, but his post this morning is that it's great. And Obama, he posts Obama. He goes, do you think people appreciate what a fantastic job we did in building and operating the state fair, the great American State Fair at the National Mall, packed with happy people and everybody loving it. Ask yourself this simple question. Do you think that Obama or sleepily sleepy Joe Biden could have done it? The answer is no, exclamation point. And when you read that, it physically, like, hurts me because I'm like, man, we're led by such a dumb person, such a bad person. It's not good, it's bad. There's nobody there. It could have been good. Stop saying it's good. Stop saying Obama and Biden. It would have been great, by the way, under them. Or former Vice President Kamala Harris. It would have been amazing. And then it's also like, yeah, when you say we did great in the war in Iran, the great scale is you considering that fair. Great. You know, it's you considering the Reflecting pool. Great. You know, these are objectively bad and awful things that he says are great. And now the rest of us are like non consensual shareholders in the Trump meme company and we're all suffering. Like, we don't want it. We don't want your meme coin. Well, you have to. It's called the United States of America. It's like, we don't want to be non consensual extras in your dystopian reality show. Well, yeah, we don't want to. I just want to be normal again. I watch Forum. I watch a Prime Minister Carney at the Pride Parade in Canada and I'm seeing him there. You know, the people in Toronto are like pouring water on the guy and he's like enjoying it and laughing. I watch Mom Donnie in New York and it's joyful. While Donald Trump's like, that's the biggest threat since 9 11. That's the type of communist. He's very handsome though, very good looking man. I'd like to touch his legs. Very handsome, very attractive, very hot. But, but he's a communist. You know, that's what's going on.

[Brett]

We are so down the rabbit hole and Donald Trump just needs to make everything so incredibly weird. And you know, the fair, the reflecting pool, frankly, you know, I know there are bigger fish to fry, so to speak, but they are representative of something that's far deeper. And you were getting at that, Ben. But it's just this lying about objective facts and things that you could see with your own eyes to me is the most, is the single most damaging thing about Trump and this MAGA movement. Beyond all the policy stuff, I think this is like the most sinister, evil stuff imaginable. Telling people that what they, they see with their own eyes is not what's actually happening. It's like quite literally straight out of the book 1984. And that's what Trump and Fox and all these people are doing. And you could see this infrastructure in place when you see Fox every day, every hour hammering and look at all the people behind us. This place is packed. This is the best fair we've ever been to. Everyone's having a great time and nobody's there. And it's just like, at a certain point, could you be freaking normal? Okay, could you be normal? And if you mess up, you mess up, okay, but be normal. And the fact is they brought this upon themselves. Like Ben said, they infused their toxic MAGA politics into this thing. It was supposed to be this bipartisan event quite frankly, when I heard about this idea of the Great American State Fair, I actually thought it was kind of cool. You get a state fair, you get a booth of all the 50 states. People get to have a little experience with each of the 50s. I'm like, that's a cool concept, actually. What a great way to celebrate the United States of America. But of course, Donald Trump had to put a stink on it. Trump had to take the whole thing over from the Smithsonian. So all the performers who they were going to have the nonpartisan nature of it, all that stuff all thrown away for them to start this thing, like Ben said, with the guy with Sean Duffy calling people libtards, or the UFC event where they're calling Michelle Obama a man, where Trump gives his deranged speech, where everybody's walking out and then Trump posts unprompted.

[Ben]

Nobody walked out of my speech.

[Brett]

45,000 people were there. 45,000 people were there. When they were not anywhere near 45,000 people. But I guess the point I want to make is that it's never about just one lie. These are, of course, no one's life is going to be ruined because the Great American National Fair sucks, right? But there are these small little lies that they just pump out every day, and then they seem to spend especially, like, more time on the stupid lies, like getting Fox to be there every single day. And they just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. They're pumping the stuff out all the time. And the reason that this matters is because if the government is willing to lie to you about something that you could literally watch on video and disprove, or you could go to with your own eyes and disprove, and they have zero hesitation in telling you about these little tiny things that you could actually see. You got to think of the things that you don't have access to. Sorry, I hit the microphone. The things that you can't go do a deeper dive in. What are they going to say about the economy? What are they going to say about what's happening with the war in Iran? What are they going to say about any policy, quite frankly? What happens in Minneapolis, what ICE is doing? What's going on with immigration? Are the Haitians eating dogs and cats? All this stuff is related. They're all part of the same kind of system of just pumping out propaganda, lying, and then using these lies to do really heinous stuff. And that heinous stuff could be deportations, it could be killing fellow Americans, it could be taking away the right to vote. And all this is tied the same way that Trump is going around now saying the biggest threat right now is communism, it's taking over America. The communists are here and I need to do everything. I think he's building a little bit of a case for himself to then go, oh, we can't allow these elections to go through because all these communists won the midterms and we can't allow that to happen. It's an existential threat to this country. We have to shut it all down. And that's why the Reflecting Pool, the Great American State Fair, they seem like inconsequential things that are, I mean, they're fun to mock for sure, but they are part of a much larger and more sinister scheme that they are cooking up. And I was thinking the other day, like you could imagine, imagine another White House for some reason was like, I need to paint the bottom of the, of the Reflecting Pool or something and say it turned out to be just as bad as the way Donald Trump did it. No other president would ever do it this poorly, but say they did. They would make like a self deprecating joke about it, right? They would like maybe turn their Twitter profile to be like a green White House. They would call themselves the Greenhouse. They'd go in like Jimmy Fallon and like crack a joke. Like they would be self deprecating, it would be a little light hearted thing in the culture and they would fix it and they would move on. They would say, oops, my bad, but what does Trump do? The antifa vandals were criminalizing them. Here's security footage of this lady from 300ft touching the water with her fingers. We need to arrest her and ruin her life. Like this is really psychotic, fascist, authoritarian stuff. And you'll notice the more, right, the farther, the more extreme that they get, the more that they try to demonize the other side because they're trying to pull the Overton window further and further and further to the right to try to normalize their authoritarian and fascist behavior.

[Jordy]

Perfectly said be it. I don't have much more to add here, but I'll just say this. Look, I don't like when people lie to me, but I especially hate it when people lie badly at me, right? When the lies are so stupid that it's just insulting my intelligence that they don't think I could see through their bs. And this is one of those moments yet again where Trump and MAGA are just lying to the American people about the most obvious and quite frankly the silliest things to lie about. The fair is a Great success. There's like 10 people walking through, like, what are you talking about?

[Ben]

Just.

[Jordy]

Just stop being weird. The reflecting pool is this magnet magnificent blue. No, it's not. It's green and it's gross. Just admit, like, we could see it. So if you. Again, if you're willing to lie about this stupid stuff so poorly, you know, what else are you just willing to lie about? Why? To protect your. Your image or your ego. I really don't understand it. And maybe, maybe, maybe it's a good thing I don't, because maybe it means I'm not a psychopath, because I think that's where this all stemmed from. And I'm not just saying it to call names and call MAGA names. But. But again, the lies are just so stupid and so obviously lies that I can only determine that you think I'm stupid, that you think the American people are stupid, and you think that if you repeat it enough and put your trillion dollar propaganda arm behind it that everyone's just gonna believe you, that history is just gonna believe you, but that's just not the case. That is absolutely not the case. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that this last, like, month and a half has been one of the most embarrassing, embarrassing times in the entire Trump presidency. From uf, the UFC fight, which was just a total disaster. The reflecting pool, you know, fiasco. America250 now just like, again, blowing up in shambles. And it could have been a cool thing. Like, people want to celebrate the country, but stop getting your MAGA stank all over it, right? Don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining. If it's a bad event, it's a bad event. The issue here is MAGA just loves being pissed on. They're like, more pissed. Trump, keep lying to me. Keep lying to me. I love it. I love. And it's just like, no, we don't love it. We're not consenting to the piss. So we're going to call it out here. It's absolutely ridiculous. Brett. Don't consent to the piss, Brett.

[Ben]

If things were going good and people were thriving and things were getting more affordable and inflation was going down and people were sharing in wealth that's now purely being amassed by trillionaires like Elon Musk and Trump's billionaire friends. Maybe even some of the things you say, Jordi, are less important or less severe. Certainly speaks to a malignant narcissism and a psychotic personality. But you can all be like, all right, but I Think it's when people are suffering more than ever. When you're in this catastrophic and unlawful war that's never ending with fake MOUs and fake ceasefires. It enhances all of these other things and it makes it one gigantic cluster. You know what? And the question is, if you're willing to lie about that, what else? And the answer is Manob sending a Tomahawk missile that kills 167, 168 little girls in an elementary school, perhaps 200 people, you know, total or more in that elementary school in a war crime, and then covering it up and then saying, we weren't there. We'll never get to the bottom of it. The underlying reasons for engaging in the catastrophic and unlawful war by saying that these nuclear, that Iran has nuclear weapons, it's days away from nuclear annihilation. You use the same tactics that the Trump regime does to say Alex Pretty and Renee Nicole Goode were terrorists and that the reason why they were slaughtered and killed by ICE and Border Patrol Gestapo is that they were attacked. So it then pervades everything. And then you see, you know, wow, this is a regime that almost relishes in the suffering of the American people. They almost want it. And then you hear Trump in the Oval Office today saying that the housing affordability bill is a big yawn. And it's very, very revealing. I want to talk about that and more. But let's take our first quick break of the show. I want to remind everybody, subscribe to the Midas Touch on Audio. You may think you're subscribed to the audio, but double check. Even if you don't think you'll listen to us on audio, it really helps the show out. It's a big boost. And so please, sometimes I get asked, what can you do to. It's free to subscribe to the Midas Touch audio podcast. So whatever app you use to listen to audio podcasts, or even if you don't listen to audio podcasts, become an audio listener. Search Midas Touch. Leave a five star review. Subscribe on Audio. That's my one kind of call to action on a selfish level because it helps the network a lot. Let's take our first quick break of the show. We'll be right back. We've got a lot more to discuss after this break.

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[Brett]

Interesting. Interesting theory.

[Jordy]

Do you get what I'm asking?

[Ben]

I absolutely get what you're saying and I absolutely get that what's going on in front of our eyes is pure unadulterated market manipulation. I mean, we know that Donald Trump first quarter alone of 2026 engaged in 3700 stock trades. That's a trade about every nine minutes or so. And he's heavily invested in companies that are related to this catastrophic and unlawful war in Iran. He's heavily invested in companies whose CEOs he regularly meets with, who he brings on delegations. And it's just so obvious what was happening at the end of last week the markets were tanking as a result of Donald Trump's disastrous policies, as a result of his disastrous handling of everything. Then you were going into Friday and the markets were very, very rattled and the United States decides it's going to strike Iran. But it would wait until the markets closed and conducted the strikes around 405, 410. The United States said we had to do it because Iran was targeting and striking ships, tankers to be specific, that were being encouraged by the United States not to follow the IRGC administered route in the Strait of Hormuz. Article 5 of the MoU between the United States and Iran says that it is Iran that will be administering the Strait of Hormuz with Oman and that they will do it free for the first 60 days, which implies that after 60 days there will be tolls or some sort of fees that will be charged. Oman confirmed today that they will not do tolls, but they will do some sort of environmental fee or some other kind of insurance costs with Iran. So there will be some sort of cost. But I guess the United States plan was, okay, let's say it's gonna be administered by them. Wink, wink, wink, gotcha. But we're really gonna then encourage tankers, VLCCs, those very large cargo container ships and other vessels to use the R route. And then we're gonna be like, gotcha, you've been punked by the MoU. Well, Iran then said, no, we're not gonna going to let you use the Oman route. And then the United States struck Iran. That happened a few times. And then we were heading, we were heading into. And then Iran struck, by the way, United States, the fifth Fleet in Bahrain and United States bases in Kuwait. And then as we were getting closer to the markets opening the futures markets oftentimes dictate the momentum heading into the week. And so what happens? Boom. Barack reveals lead posts A senior American tells me, and I think by now we all know his source is either Donald Trump directly or Witkoff or Kushner or one of those. But a senior American tells me the US And Iran have agreed to halt the mutual attacks in the Strait of Hormuz and to hold the meeting on Tuesday in Doha. Now, the meeting was supposed to take place today in either Switzerland or Doha was technical discussions. Those were called off by Iran on Friday. So there were, it wasn't like a new meeting. These were meetings that were supposed to take place and they were supposed to take place and discuss Iran's nuclear enrichment. Instead, what now is being discussed is maybe there will be A meeting in the future about the Strait of Hormuz issue, which we were supposed to move beyond and move to the nuclear enrichment issue and what was going to happen there. Because the MOU pretty clearly spells out that Iran administers the strain of Hormuz with Oman. Whether you like that or don't like that, to me, that's not the point. The point is that's what the MOU says. That's the document Donald Trump held up in Versailles. And that's the document if you keep your word, that you should follow. Also Article 1 of the MOU says a permanent ceasefire to take place in Lebanon. And then when there were technical talks in Switzerland two weeks back, there was a joint statement that was issued with the United States and Iran's blessing that talked about a deconfliction cell in southern Lebanon, de confliction, meaning stop the conflict, resolve the issue of Israel, of Netanyahu being in southern Lebanon. And it said that Iran, Pakistan, Qatar and the United States working with Lebanon would be part of the deconfliction cell. Now, whether you like that or don't like that, that's kind of besides the point. That's the statement that was made. That's what J.D. vance, the Vice president, agreed to, and that's how it was going to be dealt with. But then last week, Marco Rubio took a trip to the Middle east and did something in direct contravention, direct contradiction of the Iran MOU and the deconfliction statement that J.D. vance agreed to. And Rubio basically said, actually it's going to be Israel working with the Lebanese government without any of the members of parliament linked with Iran being involved, and they will be dealing with the danger confliction. It will be Israel's discretionary decision when to leave southern Lebanon, and we will create pilot zones in addition to the security zone, as Israel calls it, which is the. A big chunk of land Israel occupies in southern Lebanon. And the way it claims it has the right to it is it says that it's a security zone. And that's how they say they have the right to take over the land. And then the idea is, okay, we'll create two pilot zones, which in theory would be taking land from the security zone and allowing the Lebanese army to go into those areas. But when you actually look at it objectively, the pilot zones are additional land outside of the security zones. So it gives Israel more land and Netanyahu more land in Lebanon, and then says, we'll take over this land, which Israel hasn't been able to take over yet. And then we'll pilot that and let Lebanon go into those areas with the goal of fueling a civil war in Lebanon between the Lebanese army and Hezbollah. And then it basically says Israel gets to decide on its own when it will leave southern Lebanon. And then you have Netanyahu and Israel, Katz, the defense minister, and Smootrich and Ben gvir, all the leadership of Israel, saying, we did this destroys Iran's ability to engage in diplomacy in Lebanon. We screwed over Iran. This was a perfect checkmate. And this will destroy Iran's influence in Lebanon totally. Now, regardless of what you think about that one way or another, what we can, by the way, I think that there's a genocide in Gaza taking place. I'll just be very clear. And I think that that Netanyahu's regime has killed thousands of innocent people in Beirut, which is a war crime and absolutely unacceptable. And I just be very clear about, you know that. But whatever your feelings are, what can't be disputed is that JD Vance entered into one MOU and then a statement from technical talks involving deconfliction cells that said one thing. And then Rubio working with Netanyahu did one that's the exact opposite. And these two agreements, the Lebanese MoU framework and the Iran MoU framework are in direct contradiction, which each other, which. Why am I even bringing this up? It's because I'm not notre damas or I'm not even a doomer when I try to predict future war or this is going to happen. It's just obvious to me when you create that situation what the result is going to be. And you have Israel's defense minister saying, saying we're getting ready for the third war against Iran and that we will not withdraw from Gaza, from Syria and Lebanon. You have Netanyahu saying there will never be a Palestinian state. And you have, you know, Israel striking in Syria and you know, which just happened. And Syria's, Syria's leader, Alshara is like, what? Like, what are you doing? I'll commit Al Shara, you know, and he's been cozying up to kind of Trump. And then they strike inside Syria and then they also strike in southern Lebanon. So you have that going on, the manipulation of the market you have going on. And then here was the update, by the way. And then I'll throw it to you.

[Brett]

Brent.

[Ben]

I'm sorry, I know I'm getting very technically detailed, but I think it's important that people see what's happening. So then you have this was the update from Barack Ravid update today Special envoy Witkoff and Kushner will depart today for Doha, where they will meet on Tuesday with the prime minister of Qatar and additional senior officials to discuss talks with Iran. Pause over there. Who's missing from those discussions? Iran. It says nothing about Iran being there. We're just sending Wit Coffin Kushner to show up in Qatar and Doha to discuss Iran. Then it goes. On Wednesday, the technical teams of the United States and Iran are expected to hold separate meetings, things with the mediators from Qatar and Pakistan, according to senior White House officials. So there. It's according to his sources, but also, if you note the language that he uses, there's nothing about Iran being there or Iran negotiating with the United States on Tuesday or Wednesday. And that was supposed to happen. So the real story is it was canceled. The actual talks that was supposed to be productive on enrichment of nuclear material, that was canceled. And now there are fake talks that are taking place right. Right now. And then Iran's Foreign Ministry said, we canceled the talks. Iran's Foreign Ministry spokes, we're not doing it. We don't know what they're talking about. We're not showing up. And so that's the reality versus saying the state fair is going great, the reflecting pool is vandal. You see the theme here. And again, I know that was a

[Brett]

long, tedious technical like.

[Ben]

But I think we need to. No one, no one's breaking it down that way. We need to understand what's happening.

[Brett]

It's a lot of important context. And I don't think a lot of people really realize and I really don't see other media truly reporting how it seems like the intent of Rubio in Lebanon is to sabotage the entire JD Vance deal that was happening and is supposed to happen in the future in Switzerland. And I feel like too many people are like, oh, look, they're doing great things in Lebanon and they're doing this MOU in Iran. And look at these separate paths that. But they're not parallel paths. They are converging emergent paths, and they are crashing into one another. And I cannot emphasize that enough. Now. I've seen a lot of people ask and write in the comments. Can you guys go through the mou? You know, I. I'd like to read it for myself. I know you guys reference it. Well, we have posted it on our sub stack, so I will say that. So if you go to Midasplus.com, you know, I'll include a link to it in the description, too, if you want to read the MOU for yourself. And I think it's important, important because as, as we've been going through in this episode, there is so much bad faith, I mean, all around, quite frankly. But let's face it, when you read the text in black and white of the MOU and when you look at the actions of the United States and you look at what the Iranians are saying, you look at what Netanyahu is saying, you actually see some people are actually telling the truth and some people aren't telling the truth. And I think that's important. And, and I think even in these negotiations, to the point that Ben was getting at, if you're Iran and you're making a deal and you expect the other person to uphold that deal, and, but the people who are making that deal are also saying that the, the fair is packed and that vandals are doing the, the destroying this pool and all this other garbage and bs they're going to lie about the deal also because Donald Trump is a bad faith operator. It's why he was found liable for fraud.

[Jordy]

Fraud.

[Brett]

It's why his companies were convicted of fraud. It's the same pattern his entire life, except now he's doing this on an international scale. And it's why the lies are so dangerous and why he just, he can't be trusted doing any, any of this. And I think Iran realizes that. I think a lot of the international community has wise up to this after kind of placating the guy for the first year. And that's good to see. But you know, it's, it's kind of like damage control mode right now for the entire world as they have to deal with like this psychotic human being who is just like destroying everything. And one of the tactics that Trump uses and that I've seen his supporters use is that he tries to make everything that's a criticism of him, a criticism of the United States. And you'll see this across everything. So I, you know, any post that we've made where we talk about the low attendance of the fair, an objective fact or a fact about the United States breaking the MOU or you know, something, not the damage to U. S. Military bases, you, and you inevitably get a MAGA person commenting or saying something to you like, wow, you must hate America, you must hate this country. You must hate the United States. Wow, an anti American attack. And the point is, no, it's the truth. You gotta be able to tell the truth in this country. The most American thing you could do is actually tell the truth, especially when it's critical of your government. You know, what's un American? What's un American is right now, the people in the White House who are lying to you and you for trying to silence any sort of voices who are trying to speak out and are actually trying to get the facts out there. That's what's un American. And I wish we could all be celebrating the 250th anniversary. I wish we could. We weren't in this war in the first place, but Donald Trump has done these things now. We are here. And yes, he deserves to be criticized. We'll get into some of these Supreme Court decisions in a little bit. But I even noticed Trump said this himself when he was speaking about the E. G. Carroll ruling in his post after the fact, because he went right to social media. There was one line that really stuck out to me. And Donald Trump wrote about the E. G. And Carroll ruling. Donald Trump not being able to bring to the Supreme Court a case in which he was held liable for sexual assault and had to pay millions of dollars in damages for defamation for lying about it. And Trump said this is an attack on the United States of America, that he couldn't take this, take this to the Supreme Court. And I think that right there reveals his entire strategy and the way that all of his supporters always try to weaponize criticism of Donald Trump into making that criticism of the United States.

[Jordy]

Absolutely. Look, what are these? Snow wag. No, sorry. What are these MAGA folks always say, like, these misogynistic MAGA folks. When a woman wants to become, you know, president or runs for president. Oh, she can't be president. Women are so emotional. Look, Donald Trump is the single most emotional snowflake to ever exist. And everyone around him is too scared to tell him that he's doing a horrible job. So he surrounded himself by all of these.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Jordy]

People that just wanted to continue to tell him how great he's doing at the expense of the American people because they know that any sort of criticism that they give to him, he'll freak out, fire them, ruin their lives. He can't internalize any sort of feedback that will help the American people. He just again, wants his ego stroked at all times. He is the most emotional snowflake flake that we've ever had in such a high leadership position. It's also why I started the show saying that we were in stupid Groundhog Day with the war in Iran. It's because the instability of the regime, of the Trump regime. This war is not going to end under his presidency. You have Vance doing his thing. You have Rubio on his mission, doing his thing, both trying to set themselves up to be the guy in 28. And then you have Trump shit posting from his house at 2am in the morning, blowing up any deals that anyone's

[Brett]

trying to work on.

[Jordy]

Because again, he is the single most emotional person to ever be the President of the United States. He's a coward that has no idea what he's doing, but he, again, has surrounded himself by all of these people that just want to ego stroke him, that just want to tell him how great he is, that want to leave little notes in his office to tell him, oh, how awesome he is. It's so pathetic that we found ourselves here as a country. And to me, once we get beyond this presidency and into 28 and into 30 and just going forward, it's like, how do we get our sense of purpose back as a country? How do we get, like, our shine back? You know, like the Fonz used to like fluff up his jacket because he was like the cool guy. How do we become the cool guy again? And I, I, the answer is I don't think we do, or at least I don't think it happens immediately because we have so humiliated ourselves over the course of these last, you know, 10 or so years under the whole Trump fiasco that we've been living under, that the world does not respect us. Maybe the world's never, quite frankly, respected us the way I was grown up and taught that the world had respected us. Maybe I'm having an awakening here, but now more than ever with Donald Trump just clowning himself and clowning our country by proxy is just so disheartening to me as someone who loves this country. And I just want to get back to a place we don't even need to be the cool guy. I'll just be like the cool guy's friend. Like, that's like, kind of like, I'll take that, but I just don't know how we get that there. Ben, any idea?

[Ben]

Yeah, you mentioned the notes. I think you're also referring there to Natalie Harp, who is referred to as Donald Trump's human printer. And some people refer to her as Donald Trump's something else. She's the one who leaves notes saying, I love you, I'll always be there for you. And Trump says, she's the one who really loves me. She'll be there for me until I die. I think there's a term, I may be botching the name of it, but it's Actually a historical term of like crazy king syndrome, where the court, you know that the king's court is like surrounded by some of the strangest and oddest people, you know, and there is like, there's always like a Natalie Harp type figure. And so one of the issues is, is he's her, she's his human printer and potentially whatever. And so he'll say, you know, like he'll be in a meeting and this is what they say in that book, regime change, you know, Natalie, give me the right answer. And she'll like print out something on like justthenews.com or something like, just like one of these Trump like made up propaganda things. Things just, you know, look, look, look what we got for you. Look what we got for you. You see, you see my approval? 70%. Natalie, Natalie says it. And it's like this like Natalie Harp person, I guess it's, it's, it's, it's, it's crazy business over there. When we come back though, I want to talk about the Supreme Court rulings. I also want to talk about something that Donald Trump potentially could have been applauded for. That wasn't something that he did, which is why he wants to undermine, I mean, the housing affordability bill. Bipartisan. But Trump says he hates this bill. It's a big yawn. He doesn't care about it. And even if he ends up signing it or just lets it pass after it lapses in 10 days and doesn't veto it, he's already made it clear that he doesn't want housing affordability or affordability at all. We'll talk about that in moral sticker. Last quick break of the show. Reminder, subscribe to the Midas Touch on audio wherever you get your audio podcast. Search Midas Touch. All right, we'll be right back after our last quick break.

[Jordy]

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[Jordy]

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[Ben]

You know this housing affordability bill that Trump had nothing to do with would have been a win for him. I often get asked can you say something nice that he there's got to be one thing that he does that's good. And I've said before I thought the housing affordability bill would be something that I would talk positively about. I would note that he wasn't involved in it other than signing it. But you could argue, well he did say the words affordability even though he undercut it. And the Senate passed this, you know, and the House passed it and you know, maybe that's a good thing. You know, you know it's not going to solve the fact that inflation caused by Donald Trump's tariffs against the world in catastrophic war. It's not like it's going to stop inflation from crushing people. It's not going to stop Donald Trump ripping away health care for tens of millions of people. We saw the latest data Obamacare, Affordable Care act. Five million people had to drop their Obamacare healthcare, at least 5 million that we're aware of because of the Trump regime getting rid of the subsidies and ordering Congress not to extend those subsidies. And that's 5 million people who need healthcare. And they may now. I mean and I will have to do a study. It'll be hard to capture. But and I'm not trying to be very morbid about this and ghoulish but like that could result in tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of are more of deaths because people aren't getting care that they need. And you know, it may not show up the next day same way Inflation may not show up the next day after Trump does his tariffs against the world. But it's showing up now. But in any event, I think we'll go.

[Brett]

Wow.

[Ben]

Warren joins forces with Scott. Tim Scott, Elizabeth Warren.

[Jordy]

This is good.

[Ben]

This is good. Congress worked. They did something. Then Donald Trump refuses to sign it. Then it seems to me that Donald Trump hates the housing affordability bill because Trump views everything as a zero sum game. When you help people buy new homes, when you get home to first time homeowners, when you help people alleviate a lot of the stress with mortgages and, you know, and everything associated with it, you, in Trump's world, you're taking away from the oligarchs, you're taking away from the wealthy people, him and his buddies, the private equity buddies, the Kushners, who want to take over islands in Albania. You know, that, that, that's how Trump sees it, as a zero sum. And so Donald Trump was asked about it today and his response was big yawn. I just think it's one big yawn. Here, play this clip. 100, 300, 400, 500%. You know that. But will you sign that housing bill? I, I have not.

[Brett]

It hasn't been sent to me yet. It's coming. I understand. And then I'll make, then I'll make a difference.

[Ben]

Here's what I would like to sign

[Brett]

much more than a bill that big

[Ben]

deal, it's a yawn.

[Brett]

Some people say it's wonderful. To me, compared to the Save America act, just about everything is a big yawn.

[Ben]

I mean, just think about. Big yawn. A big yawn.

[Brett]

Let me just distill what Trump is essentially saying, because he's now trying to tie this to the SAVE act, which is a piece of voter suppression legislation, as part of their efforts to his and then the Republicans efforts to rig the election. Trump is making it harder for Americans to buy a home unless he's allowed to make it harder for them to vote. And I think that's the point that people out there need to be making about what Trump is doing right now. The way he so flippantly writes off actually a piece of legislation that is trying at least to combat the affordability crisis with housing. And I think Trump reveals his cards as well when he speaks about this issue. He doesn't speak about it from a position of empathy, which I, as I've always said, empathy is, I think, a superpower. While the right wing in this country tries to act like it is the worst thing imaginable, I think it's A great thing. But Trump lacks the empathy to be able to go, okay, I understand your pain. I, here's how I want to help. Instead, you'll hear in comments that he makes, he'll be like, well, I made a lot of money in housing and I know a lot of people who are making a lot of money in housing, and I don't want their housing to, their, their, the price of their homes that they're renting out and stuff to go down. And so we need to actually be bringing home prices up. Something Donald Trump said today, we need to be bringing the price of homes up for everybody. This is, we're in an affordability crisis right now. And it doesn't have to be a zero sum game like Ben said, but Trump reveals his cards. Trump is always going to try to win work, to try to make the richest among us richer and screw the people who are just trying to get in the door trying to get their first home. He doesn't care about them. And we've even seen Republicans in recent days, weeks calling him out. I mean, who was it on the air? I think it was Thomas Massie, who over the weekend said something like, you know, I would sign the SAVE act, but like, you know, making up all this stuff, we control everything. We won every election. So, like, all this crap that Donald Trump is saying, you know, it's all lies. And so, yeah, you want, you won all the elections. I understand that the, the few elections that you don't win here and there, didn't win here and there, you blamed that it was being stolen. But that's all your lies. That's the reflecting poll all over again. That's the fair is packed. It's all a part of the same scheme, which is about consolidating power, becoming more and more and more extreme while you marginalize the people who are trying to fight you and are trying to actually help the people 100%.

[Jordy]

I have a take on this, too, that I actually haven't heard yet. And I think it speaks to the way I feel that this maniac, Donald Trump, his mind operates, right? Signing this bipartisan housing bill into law, it would be Trump essentially. Again, this is his mind formally acknowledging the affordability crisis that we're living under through his presidency, connecting him closer and closer to Herbert Hoover, someone who's seemingly always on his mind these days. I wonder why. I mean, for Trump, he's just, he's so insane, saying such an egomaniac that signing a bipartisan piece of legislation around housing and affordability, he Feels like that then makes it harder for him to beat his chest and lie to the American people that they're living through this golden age, as he likes to say. Because why would you need a piece of legislation to help make things more affordable when in Trump's eyes, everything is great? We're living through the golden age, everyone. He views this as an admission of failure. Because, Brett, to your point, he only cares about himself. He doesn't care about what bill he signs actually, you know, through. Through any sort of lens, just so long as whatever bill he signs makes him look good at the end of the day, American people be damned.

[Ben]

He views it as. He was a landlord, right? And he's representing the landlords, I should say the slumlords. Right? He was a slumlord and that's how he ran things. That's why he would attack Mayor Mamdani recently for the rent stabil freezing rent increases for a two year period. And Donald Trump almost caught himself recognizing how bad his economy is. Like, energy costs are going up and this cost is going up. This is gonna crush the landlords. And now the landlords are unable to raise their. I mean, things are going really, really good. I'm turning the economy. He said that in his beach, things are going actually amazing right now. And he revealed everything in that as well. Where his view has always been, I

[Brett]

got a. I'm the private equity guy,

[Ben]

I'm the slumlord guy.

[Brett]

Like, I can't be.

[Ben]

I'm not happy that rents are frozen for, you know, people who can't afford their rent. I don't want to have new home buyers. I want to make sure that I help private equity companies and rich people in rich neighborhoods increase the value of their homes. And if I have to, the. If I'm helping people get homes, that means they. Where do you think those homes are going to be built? Potentially in the neighborhoods with some of the rich people. And then that's going to bring down the housing prices of my rich friends who hang out with me in Mar a Lago. So we got to make sure that we keep housing away from. That's his mentality. Okay? And what con artists like him are able to see and perceive historically and in the present and the pain and suffering that people feel. What he is expert at, an expert at as a, as a fraud in a bad way. He senses the fear and the pain, but he knows how to exploit it and take advantage of it. And some of the problems from other people who step into political fora is they don't understand it. And they want to test the messaging in this focus group and that focus group and da, da, da, da, da, da. And they don't see the pain to actually deliver results. What's fascinating is when you see someone like a New York City mayor, Mamdani, able to see the pain and suffering because he listens, diagnose it, and come up with policy to help people. That's the biggest threat to the con artist. Frauds who sense it, know how to exploit it, say the right words, cause division. And then when you lure people in, then you take, take, take, take, take. And then when things don't go what you promised, that's when you blame the other. I was about to solve it for you. We were.

[Brett]

We were.

[Ben]

Remember, I was doing this, I was doing that. And then the communists came along and they screwed it up. And then the vandals came along, and then. And then Zelensky came along and he screw. And then NATO came along and they screwed it up, and then so and so came along, and I was all gonna go according to plan, but then that's what happened. That's where we are with this. And so what's the messaging where you see, whoa, no matter what you want to label or call Mamdani this, that, or the other, he's delivering for the people. He's a beloved individual in New York City who's actually helping the people on the issues. He said, in contrast to Trump, who said the things and then work to brutally screw the people. So, you know, the state regime press that's there also are teeing it up for Donald Trump, you know, in order to be. In order to say. It's like a script, right? It's like state regime media in the Oval Office or someone's like, so what do you make Mamdani saying that he's willing to be the face of socialism? What do you make of it? And by the way, Trump is like, taking over companies, you know, in the United States. Trump's like, manipulating the army. Trump is doing socialism for the billionaires. Right? I mean, Trump's basically doing, like, salary caps and protections, like, in sports leagues for the billionaires that screw over that. Screw over the workers. Right? I mean, that's a model that Trump's basically, you know, you know, is bringing over here. So watch what Trump says when he's asked about Mom.

[Brett]

Let's play this clip.

[Ben]

Zoram Donny said in an interview this week that he was open to being the poster child for socialist candidates. Are you worried about more Socialist candidates

[Brett]

across the United States. I think it's a big threat to our nation, actually, because it's not socialism, it's really communism. They use the word Social Democrat because it sounds so nice, but it's really communism you're talking about.

[Ben]

I think it's the biggest threat to

[Brett]

our nation there is, maybe since our founding.

[Ben]

That includes World War I, World War II, September 11th.

[Brett]

It includes the Pearl harbor attack. I think this is the biggest threat to our nation. People will smile when I say that, but the smart people are going to say, you know, he's probably right. It's basically introducing communism into the United States of America.

[Ben]

There's never been anything so dangerous.

[Brett]

Thank you very much, everybody.

[Ben]

Thank you. Thank you very much, everybody. I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy what he says, and that may be a very revealing insight also into himself, that he doesn't care about soldiers who lost their lives and service members who sacrificed everything in World War I and World War II. Those are suckers and losers. We know how Donald Trump felt about 9 11. He was bragging that his building became one of the tallest buildings, buildings after the Twin Towers were knocked down. And then he was very willing to bring the Saudis right away to do golf tournaments with Liv at his golf courses. And then Trump spread the lies that no one really knows what's 911 was about. When he was asked by 911 families about how are you hosting Saudi Arabia golf tournaments and normalizing this live golf tournament. It's for Donald Trump. Trump and for the Epstein class. The idea that American people can have access to homes, to health care, to child care for them in their own sick and demented mind is worse than actual American. That's how they think these Epstein class people. Brad Jordan.

[Jordy]

Yeah.

[Brett]

The election of Zoran Mamdani, who has incredibly high approval rates, ratings and is accomplishing things that all of his biggest critics were like, he'll never do the. Oh, wait, he got the Renfree. So what else can he do? He just keeps accomplishing all this stuff. But like here, here's. Let me step back for a second. What I think you could look at the way that these supporters react to each individual. And it also reveals a lot. I've been seeing all these clips of Mom Daddy lately. And so mum Donnie, you know, is at the Pride parade over the weekend in New York City. Anytime he's walking around New York City, it's like Mickey Mouse walking around Disneyland. Everyone is like, so happy and freaking out and excited to see him. You see people smiling you see people happy. Everybody wants a picture or a handshake. He's smiling, he's happy. He's interacting with the people. Like, you know how, like, you know, when there's like a popular person, people joke like, oh, yeah, he's the may. He's like the mayor. He's like the mom. Donnie is that guy, right? He's that guy right now in New York. He's always around, he's always there. People see him out, he's younger than me, which every time I reminded of, I'm like, wow, that's insane. And people like him. They like the energy. And when you look at people like a Donald Trump and you see the way his supporters react to him him, it's a much different energy, right? You look at the way people react. For example, let's go back to where we were at the beginning of this episode, the beginning of this Freedom250 event or whatever it's called right now. And you have Sean Duffy saying, we don't need those libtards and the crowd going, yeah, yeah, yeah, them. It comes from anger, it comes from vitriol, it comes from hatred. And I think, think, you know, they're kind of adjacent emotions when you think about it, like, you know, that sort of pull. But obviously they are incredibly different. One a passionate people coming together because of things they hate, of things they want to tear down, of people they want to destroy, of people who they think are harming them by their mere existence. And then in the case of Imam Donnie and a lot of the people who, who voters right now are getting really excited about, you see people presenting a positive vision. Here's what I could do for you. Here's, I understand your pain. Here's what I want to do for your situation with housing, for grocery prices. Here's how we could actually make something better. You don't have to live this way. You don't have to have a worse life than your parents had in this country. And so I think when you step back and you actually just look at the way that people are reacting to these figures, it also tells you a whole lot about the movements and it tells you a whole lot about the people behind the movements. And Donald Trump and these Republicans, they, let's face it, they got nothing to run on going into the midterms. It's a complete nutter disaster. They failed on everything. They've had an opportunity. They've failed miserably on affordability. They said there'd be no new wars. We're in. What could Be another forever war. Right now. It's an utter disaster. He's tanked the global economy. He's completely ruined the oil markets which are more volatile than ever. He's still hiding in Epstein files and refuses to get justice for those, you know, in the Epstein files. And so what do they have left? They just have this fear mongering. So they go back to their same playbook that they've had since the 1950s. They're going, communism. It's a threat, it's urgent, it's going to destroy you. And they're trying to use that energy that you see of that anger right now to further divide the country. I could only hope, hope that there are enough people in this country right now who see these games for what they are. And that's why we always say here at the Midas Touch Network is don't buy into the right wing framing. And the thing that bothers us, I think the most about the way so many in the corporate media report on things is that they really buy in to the right wing framing. They take the, oh, oh, you know, where. What do they call themselves? Where? The finance hawks. What are they called? What do they call themselves? We're good on the economy.

[Ben]

We're deficit hawks. Deficit hawks.

[Brett]

Thank you. We're deficit hawks. We, we. And they just accept all this garbage like it's the truth when it's like never been true. I don't know. They do it on that and then they do it on these bigger, broader issues. And, and so that's why we always say instead of accepting this BS right wing framing on everything and instead of humoring Donald Trump with all of his deranged lies, you have to call him out on it. And you have to also present a positive vision. Because when you succeed on the merits and when you are actually delivering for the people, it actually makes Donald Trump look smaller.

[Ben]

Right.

[Brett]

It makes a lot of politicians look smaller, quite frankly. But when you see a guy like Mamdani and he's out there and he actually does something that people asked him to do, something that he ran on, something that is uplifting people, that actually makes Donald Trump's lies and blame games and all that stuff, it makes him look like a very tiny, tiny individual.

[Jordy]

Absolutely. Look, when you look at a platform that's built on hope, like authentically built on hope and progress, harnessing those emotions from those people of like genuine, yeah, we could be better. And we can all be better if we do X, Y and Z versus a fear monger, versus someone who wants to segregate the other, you know, yeah, you could get people motivated like that. But when someone is genuinely able to harness the positivity of things, I've found personally that that becomes a way more bigger way and better way to motivate people in a truly, like, beautiful way to harness progress, us and move forward. Right. You're not alienating and segregating and saying, don't do this and fear mongering, but you're actually trying to build people up for the greater good, to reach a place that makes more people happy, that benefits more people in the end. And when you could elicit that, like those types of feelings from people at Mass, like, like Mamdani is able to do right now, you just see the contrast. Like, it's so in your face. Brett, you're so right, man. When he's walking around New York City, people are, that's the mayor. I mean, yeah, that's literally the mayor, but that's literally also the person that's trying to elicit these emotions of positivity and progress in a way that I think in our politics has been so lost. Right. For so long. It's just been so built on like hatred and exiling and pointing out the other. But the way Mumdani is able to do it, man, I mean, it's, it's. I give him props. He's really good at the politics thing.

[Ben]

Hunter Biden had a really good analysis that I saw him. I'm not sure if it was, it was on BBC or a Canadian channel where he said, you know, hate is a very potent tool that motivates people to make very bad decisions, but it is a factor that does move and motivate people. Short term, he says, he goes, but it's unsustainable long term because hate compounds hate and it brings you off into very dark, dark, terrible places that often result in travesty and catastrophe and destruction. Long term, he described love and empathy and community is a more long term sustainable force that drives and motivates people. And if you think about it not the way, you know, Trump is out there manipulating the markets, but if you think about the arc or the direction of history, you know, we're certainly in a moral and ethical depression as a country. Values and principles, depression as a country, an economic catastrophe which often goes hand in hand that Donald Trump and this regime has brought us into. The deeper and broader question becomes, you know, will this be a Great Depression blip that just continues on, or will we dig our way out of this and hopefully the arc moves towards progress and this becomes known as just a very dark time in American history that we can all get beyond. And it could be used to slingshot us into a future of empathy and love and actually solving problems. But that truly takes us or we need to take us out of this cycle, which right now it's kind of like ultra volatility cycle if you've ever seen those, where it's just like up, down, up, down, up, down, up, down, up, down, up, down, up, down. And we need, we need to slingshot into a forward progress generationally that I hope lasts forever. I'm a realist and know sadly if we look into the future, there will always be times where, where bad forces will pull us back. But we need to figure this out generationally because what we can have happen is if there is a Democratic president who takes over, all of a sudden all of the damage that Trump does gets heaped on the back of whoever that person is and they have to fix it. And then before you know it, in a two year cycle, everything gets blamed on that person versus the actual progress we need to do. And so, so we have to think about that foundationally and generationally of building and aspiring something long term, not just any specific cycle. And you know, I look at these Supreme Court rulings which are definitely a mixed bag. And they certainly, at least with this decision called the Slaughter decision, delivers a big win for Trump's horrible agenda in overturning a case called Humphreys Executor, which is a 90 unit precedent saying that agencies are independent and you can't fire, even if you're the President of the United States, heads of these agencies and departments, unless you fire them for cause. And even then you have to reach a very, very high standard. But you can't just fire people, you know, without cause. And now the Supreme Court said, nope, we're going to overturn Humphrey's executor and Donald Trump. You can get rid of anyone appointed by Democrats and you could appoint just all of your MAGA people and horrible on its face, right? The issue though becomes when a Democratic President takes over, then you could fire all these Republican people and you get rid of all of them and then I guarantee you these MAGA snowflakes will start to whine and say, no, we have to overturn that and they'll do it. But you got to create another exception. Supreme Court, you've got to create an exception. Now today the Supreme Court did indeed say that Lisa Cook, a governor on the Federal Reserve Board, needs to be given due process and can't be fired without cause or can't be fired the way Donald Trump has fired her. And that the process there and a case needs to continue to which both Bill Pulte, who Donald Trump appointed as the acting Director of National Intelligence, we're going to get her for mortgage fraud. You'll see. See, we'll get her for mortgage, which is crazy that the Director of National Intelligence is tweeting or posting on X. You know, those types of things. The ruling as it relates to Lisa Cook and the Federal Reserve, it wasn't to me as broad as in all cases. The Federal Reserve is fully immune from Donald Trump meddling it with the way he can with these agencies. But you had a 5, 4 decision there of the Supreme Court court saying, we think the Federal Reserve is different than every other agency. Six, three decision. The Supreme Court says all other agencies, Trump can fire everybody. Humphrey's executor, that's the name of the case.

[Brett]

Overruled.

[Ben]

Do whatever you want. Or any president can do whatever wants. But this, the Federal Reserve is different. Why? Because the Supreme Court doesn't follow precedent. They're not like logically consistent. They go because it's just so important. If you look at history, the Federal Reserve, it's like the original United States central banks. And therefore we view it historically as separate from agencies. The reality is, is that the Supreme Court and these right wing justices don't care about the consistency. They care about their pocketbook. They know if they ruled against Donald Trump on that case that the markets would absolutely tank massive. So they were looking after their own bag the same way. To me, they're ruling about Trump's tariffs against the world. With Donald Trump doing everything again to destroy the economy. It was about their own bag, their own market, their own money. And that's why they were doing that. So that's what the Supreme Court ruled on those cases. And then there was the other ruling by the Supreme Court where they did not hear the lease, where they did not hear the Eugene Carroll case. So the Eugene Carroll verdict stands against Donald Trump. Trump, he can no longer appeal or say I'm appealing. He's been found liable of sexual assault and defamation. The that period's run out. And then there was a 5 to 4 decision on mail ballots which says that if you postmark your mail ballot before the day of the election, even it's received after the election, those votes can still be counted. That was a 5 to 4 decision which Donald Trump attacked. And so mixed bag, obviously The Humphreys executor being overturned is outrageous. Although to the extent there's a silver lining, if a Democrat president comes into office, they'll be able to point to it and say well I'm doing it too. That's the precedent. And you know, I guarantee you you'll see all these MAGA Project 2025, that's unfair. That's unfair. And that's so I could easily predict that's what's going to happen. So that's all I got. Brad, anything you want to say before we go?

[Brett]

I'll say, I'll say. Yeah, I mean it cuts both ways, these decisions. Right. If you're expanding power of the executive branch, that theoretically means anyone who's the head of the executive branch, whether they're Republican or Democrats. So you know, I think, you know, Republicans may be celebrating now, they may not be as happy when a Democrat becomes president in the future. Now I thought the mail in ballots decision was a, was a huge decision. A lot of people were worried about which direction that was going to go to. I mean what a novel concept counting all the votes that come in by election day, you know, or that are done by election day. It's, it's ridiculous that that is even a 5, 4. That should be a, you know, a knockout decision. Should be easy, easy call right there. And now when we wake up in the morning. If you're listening to this on the audio podcast, big day. The final cases that are going to be decided by, by the Supreme Court should be, those opinions should be coming out today, including a biggie, the decision on birthright citizenship which a lot of people are watching closely. We will see what happens there. I know a lot of people are on edge about that. I mean they're coming straight for something that is very clearly defined in the Constitution. And then there is another opinion coming out on. It's a transgender case, a state ban on transgender athletes from women, women's sports. And that decision should be coming on Tuesday as well. So more fun to come. So stay tuned to the Midas Touch Network for more updates. Stay posted to our substack where we've been doing these incredible midday recaps every day. Ron Philipowski's bulletins make sure that you're obviously subscribed to this YouTube channel and the Midas Touch podcast on audio platforms, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, you name it. And yeah, you know, it's, there's always a lot, there's always a lot of news. Some days are, there's even more news than usual. I think today was one of those. But we hope we broke it all down and, you know, gave you a sense of everything that's going on. You know, there's a lot to keep track of, and we're doing our best to follow it all and break it down in ways that make that make sense. So keep spreading the word. Thank you so much for listening, as always to the Midas Touch Podcast. Remember to tell a friend, by the way, about the show. Go send this show to a friend, tell them that you enjoy it. And thanks again. Drop Jordy, why don't you take it away?

[Jordy]

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